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Some dickcord post isn't really convincing.

>>16159863

Normally I'd agree with you, but in clown world anything ia possible. I posted this just to make people aware and to prepare for the worst.

>>16159869

check em

>I don't care if you don't like the source

Wew, will you at least try for your blackpilling/demotivation campaign, resetera?

>>16159873

>>16159853

Hey guys I heard from Troy Baker that basically the whole game is censored so you should just listen and believe!

>trying to adjust bigotry

B O Y C O T T

Well that settles it then, not buying Catherine.

>adjusted wrongthink in the japanese version

>zero respect for the nip creator's content

>think it's reasonable that localization gets to decide what parts of the game fans get to play

>virtue signal about what they've done

Why do leftists play and translate japanese games? I don't get why these cunts are involved at all.

>>16159913

>>adjusted wrongthink in the japanese version

I've seen that shit spouted many times despite an utter lack of evidence besides the usual "listen and believe"

>inb4 it's comparing to the localized US script of the original release, instead of the nip script

>>16159877

>duplicate

Link the other thread about this topic because I didn't see it. The atlus survey thread doesn't count

Also this thread got hit suddenly with random out of place shitposting trying to derail discussion, how odd. Almost like a coordinated effort of some kind

>>16159863

That's a fair assessment but:

1. It's coming from a semi-official source, a person that actually works with Atlus.

2. Atlus are cucks that have caved under pressure before.

>>16159913

>zero respect for the nip creator's content

Like they give a shit. Leftists always think they can do a better job than the original creator, it's why they always treat their jobs as translators as if they were actually writers.

>>16159853

This is the time to get angry. Don't stick your head in the sand and pretend learning Japanese will solve your problems, since SJWs are already censoring nip devs at the source.

Rather than that, use your Japanese skills to speak to them. Anyone non-marxist is censored and deplatformed, so japan gets the wrong idea that the entire west is SJW.

>>16160109

>they always treat their jobs as translators as if they were actually writers

Censorship is worse than that, anon. Filtering is just the process, the actual goal is purification of a source deemed impure.

>>16159913

they neither play nor translate them.

They just ensure their rewrites match judeo-negroid cultural values weimerica is known for.

>>16160152

Rewriting is far more insidious than that, because you are not only saying that the source is impure and needs purging, but that you, some talentless hack that wormed your way into an editing position (because oftentimes it's not even the translators themselves that do this shit, but the editors with no knowledge of Japanese) know better than not only the author himself, but all the people that are paying into your wage because they want the product.

>>16160168

Well yes, a ton of the thread is off topic. I agree the source isn't very trustworthy, however the fact is that she DID work on the game in some capacity, so I think it's worth talking about.

>>16159865

Yes, and it got derailed hard after we realized this is probably nothing.

>>16159853

This doesn't confirm shit, they haven't bent a knee yet. In fact they've told them to fuck off. Why would they change their mind now?

>>16159913

>>16160109

"adaptating" reality to suit their insanity.

why the hell do you think the left is plagued with bubonic butt blasters?

it's nothing rare, check by yourself the state of wikipedia for confirmation.

i remember of a literal self professed cultural marxist that would go on his merry way to censor the article on cultural marxism, claiming it didn't even existed.

that's why you don't talk with those shits, you plant a brick in their skull, as any discussion is essentially a negotiation from their point of view, as they're not talking in good faith, since if they had any, they wouldn't be lefties to begin with.

personnally i don't know these games, but know that's a problem which has been shown in a number of other places, and we tried to warn you.

the only correct amount of leftism is negative, as anything neutral WILL be taken over, without fail.

this is the same hearsay bullshit as of right now by a sperging VA

Until I actually see that its confirmed to be fucked with, I'm not trusting it

>>16159865

We did, but it was derailed really hard.

>>16160312

I agree, but there's no harm in being skeptical nowadays. Like especially when you see companies like Aksys and Treehouse making the worst localization jobs possible.

>>16160356

Atlus has its problems, but leftist localization has not been shown to be one of them yet.

I'd be surprised if it was the case for this one.

Aksys and treehouse are entirely different companies with awful reputations. Aksys fucking blocks fans on twitter for simply pointing out certain things (not even in disrespectful ways)

Treehouse has so many problems I can't even begin to describe them.

Atlus is closer to XSEED, Pqube and Idea Factory International in terms of quality than they are to Aksys, NISA, Treehouse and 8-4.

>>16160378

go play it for yourself and find out, many people who played it liked it

>>16160366

Well the key word here is "yet". I'm pretty sure the VA is full of shit, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. Like she's clearly disrespecting the source material and should be criticized for it. After all there were rumors about ATLUS delaying Persona 5 because the localization job was too focused on Trump rather than adapting the source material.

>>16160378

You could just pirate it and see if you like it. Although I prefer not to do that because I'm a good goy.

>>16160399

As hilarious as that would be, I doubt it. If anything she's full of shit and ATLUS will just do what they normally do.

>>16160388

Rumors should be disbelieved until proven true, at most they should be something at the back of one's mind.

At any rate, the fact that Persona 5's localization ended up faithful and overall good with no real political insertions should at least give them some credibility. I heard the reason they were delaying were simple quality reasons, nothing to do with Trump or anything.

>>16160407

You're right, but I'm still unsure if I can trust these companies. Mainly because of the policies that Sony put in place. It may not even be up to ATLUS at all.

>>16159913

We need more right-wingers in anime dubbing or game localization companies in general. That's what happens when most of us are in STEM, Business, Trades or have no job at all. The arts unfortunately have been left for the left to feast on.

>>16160435

Well another argument can be made that localization jobs and such are usually filled by people with connections aka nepotism. Even someone who voted for Trump can be slandered. Look at the recent controversy with Vince Mangola as a good example.

>>16160448

Time to learn how to be a social chameleon and make some friends with important positions via anime or gaming cons. You can also start a youtube channel with no connection to your personal social media and build up your resume or audition for existing youtube abridged and other video series. TFS and Kuriboh were able to get gigs at Funimation via their Abridged series. Deku's English VA started out in FF7 Machinima Abridged so that's how far you can go as a youtuber.

If you support "localizations" immediately kill yourself you worthless waste of skin.

You don't (((localize))) Platon or Homer, Tolstoy or Dostoyevski, Gluchovsky or Sapkowski.

Why only Japanese media get the privilege of being butchered by kikes to be palatable to judeo-negroid moral values?

Good then I have a reason to not buy it again. It is not fucking rocket science if we vote with our wallets they will realize how detrimental this shit is to their sales numbers. It is not like they can be supported if the only ones buying their games are trannies (really low percentage of the population) and Twitter SJW's (they literally don't even fucking play videogames they just complain rabidly about them to signal their virtue)

If they are this fucking shameles in their agenda normies will catch on and they will lash out against this shit. I get much more worried when these things are slow subtle, and creeping over such a long period of time that normies don't take notice or give a shit.

>>16159896

>this home doesn't call 911

what if one of your family is having a heart attack? you shoot them to kill them faster?

>>16160844

they can't afford the heath care cost, anyway so they don't call.

>>16162024

It's a VA spouting bullshit. She doesn't work in loc at all. People getting their pussies bothered or celebrating are dumb. Wait until the game is out.

Another round of shitposting over a disjew post. Why are you fags so obsessed with shit thats has zero credibility. Should i go make a discord account with the name "Mark Is Gay" and tell you im going drop being a mod? I bet some of you fags would fall for it

>>16160399

how transphobic is the jap version anyways?

all I know is that its a time warp to the past to go give everybody a happy end and they go back to before he decided to transition. do they actually make him better or do they still let him transition just the same, or is it left ambiguous?

>>16162454

it's not at all, the only difference is that eric hooked up with that other guy earlier, when he still had a dick, so in that timeline he felt no need to get himself a fake monstrous vagina in order to get a man, because he already has one that likes dick, trannies of course legitimately cannot fathom why would anyone not want to cut its dick, consume dangerous drugs and kill themselves before they're 30

>>16159865

Mark deleted it instead of just cleaning it and banning the derailers. If you ever want him to delete a thread just derail it!

>>16162454

>how transphobic is the jap version anyways?

What kind of question is this? Even if he completely renounced being a tranny it still wouldn't be "transphobic".

>>16162490

>He thinks Eric didn't keep his dick in all timelines

The entire game is pandering to SJWs with all the trannies and fags, let them eat each other.

>>16162514

I knew I should have put "transphobic" in quotes just so nobody would get confused like this. I just wanted to know how contrived this whole thing was. I only play handheld atlus games anyways

>>16162539

>The entire game is pandering to SJWs with all the trannies and fags

Don't be a retard.

>>16162600

It literally is. Though I think Eric is just a shemale, Rin is clearly there for the fags. He even preaches "love is love regardless of sex" in his route, and it's a happy ending where he and Vincent get to be space fags together. And t's not like Rin is a minor character. Aside from the new game mechanics, he's the main attraction of the remake. Don't think something isn't pandering to "progressive" politics just because SJWs hate it. They're never satisfied no matter how much something cucks to their demands unless they're the ones in charge of making it.

>>16162619

It's a postmodern game about berating the nature of a stereotypical jap herbivore being manipulated by everyone around him. Tries to be deep with commentary on the constraints of a modern life, but as is common for nip game writers, it's as shallow as can be.

>>16162899

But at least it's fun. I want my custom level creator dammit.

inb4 mark deletes it again

>>16162024

>SO FAR THIS IS ONLY THE LOCALIZATION TEAM.

Which is Atlus USA, which is what this thread is talking about.

I don't understand the point of this post.

>>16162786

It's been longer since they've announced Project Re: Fantasy and the only thing we have from it is the red head qt and a video of a dude in armor eating a Turkey leg or some shit. They announce their games way too fucking early.

I heard from reggie that this game will be censored and the uncensored version will later be on the switch

>>16162619

>Rin is clearly there for the fags

Real fags like bara, 99% of straightfags like the 2d girl with ambiguous sex meme. It's barely even gay.

>Don't think something isn't pandering to "progressive" politics just because SJWs hate it

The japanese pander to people's dicks, no reason to think this is political at all.

>>16163344

>It's been longer since they've announced Project Re: Fantasy and the only thing we have from it is the red head qt and a video of a dude in armor eating a Turkey leg or some shit. They announce their games way too fucking early.

You're right. I remember Persona 5 did a lot of blueballing as well.

On the bright side, Persona Q2 is coming to the west this June, and I'm willing to bet it's a far better game than those other 3 will ever be.

>>16163535

>The japanese pander to people's dicks

If the game was all about pandering there would be a harem route, and instead of making some trap for the minority of degenerates they'd add another female character.

Their decisions are clearly not only about pleasing people's dicks. And yes, I'm aware that there's a crowd that is into traps, my point is that Catherine clearly wasn't made with that crowd in mind, so why they suddenly decided to pander to them is beyond me.

>>16163691

>I'll only date a crossdresser for free!

>>16163535

No, traps are 100% gay.

>>16163535

>It's barely even gay.

Gay isn't a spectrum fag. It's binary. You either are or you aren't. And beside that, even if I agreed with you on it being "barely gay" it doesn't change what Rin verbally promotes.

>>16163697

Gameplay is still worth it.

>>16160378

Yes, it's actually the best Atlus story and presentation due to its brevity. Even if all their stories explode in the end into ridiculous weebshit.

The gameplay is among the hardest puzzlers on the market. You should have picked it up a long time ago.

>>16163836

Sodomy is a practice. Sexual orientation and genders don't exist, we are all an heterosexual species. Sticking your dick somewhere won't turn you into a new class of human.

>>16163535

I fucking hate faggots but to me it makes you a bigger fag to like traps and twinks then baras.

>>16163846

>Sticking your dick somewhere won't turn you into a new class of human.

But faggots are subhuman.

>>16163535

>fucking a dude is barely even gay.

What are you talking about?

>>16159913

They're gatekeepers acting to control the ideological content that the public consumes.

We all know what should be done with them.

Fuck the west. Really fuck the west.

>>16163707

traps are only gay if you don't kiss them and start wholesome family together afterwards

>>16163856

And Vincent will die of SPACE AIDS.

The voice actress may have confirmed it, but what about the journalist hit pieces? Have they come out yet or are they saving those for after the game launch to get Atlus's marketing money?

>>16164493

Only if you reply to the wrong people. I know how Kamiya feels on Twitter now spending hours filtering IDs. And I hate filtering IDs.

>>16160629

Fucking this. A lot of early translations of literature, especially Russian literature, were plagued by localization nonsense where "translators" kept trying to make up their own shit. Currently in literature it's accepted that those localizations were shit and people have worked hard to make uncompromised translations.

>>16164548

Now if only the same would happen with the modern lot.

>>16164578

Accurate translations cost money. And suits need to sell as many games as possible. Also entertainment in video games is low on the translation scale. Most translators with talent left the industry to go into higher paying jobs like lawsuit translations. Even accurate fan subs for pirated anime quit or sold out to Crunchyroll or Funimation because money and liability.

Also keep in mind 2007 was when the great recession hit and is still getting worse economically. Vulture capitalist investors want to nickle and done everything for the bottom line to keep their stocks rapidly growing until their investments stagnates. Then they will cash out and crash the company while fleeing to another country with their gold bars until a new boom takes it's place.

As a localizer there's no steady career in accurate translating entertainment. SEGA Sammy can close Atlus USA any time or turn it into current year SEGA of America. Hell English localizations might be cheaper to outsource in China and India once they take off. Everyone seems to be pulling out of America's economy now that we no longer have rapidly growing tech industries.

TL;DR There's a wide variety of factors that lead to half-assed fanfic translations outside of only SJWs. SJWs are a symptom of a falling economy that grew too rapidly too quickly.

Also I need to ask. When was the time period these Russain books localized in English came out? If it was during the Cold War era then I could expect KGB meddling with translation as part of they

their misinformation campaign.

>>16164619

How does translating something as is cost more than having a localization team using up extra time to write their own fan fiction, making that fan fiction consistent, and consulting with multiple extra people to make sure their localization is politically correct for the target climate?

Far more people will just pass on your game if there is a retarded localization than there are people who will not buy your game because they dont understand some of the cultural norms or because a character holds a politically incorrect opinion on gays or something.

>>16164619

I'm talking about books that were written in the 1800s and translations that came out long before world war 2.

>>16164648

Name names, anon. Which ones were messed with, for example, and by whom?

>>16164648

Ah I see. 1800s was bad translations all around then. Mostly because of the lack of instant communication. Modern English is a combination of French and Anglish so it would be easier to translate English into Latin and Germanic based languages than vodka runes.

>>16164636

The system is rigged to overpay the over-qualified. You can be denied a job if you have too much merit and qualifications because most companies know the over qualified negotiate for higher salary and benefits. On principal experience individuals that do the work of 2 people costs more money to higher than hiring 2 inexperienced interns to do the same work. This is how American Hollywood investors think. There's also the factor of grooming the inexperienced to do whatever your company wants or threaten blacklisting. So you can set up your interns to be the fall guy if something goes wrong, fire them without pay for breaking contract, and hire someone to replace them. This keeps labor costs low which benefits the bottom line.

As for people not buying localizations… The game has to be truly NiSA garbage tier with system breaking bugs to put consumers off. Otherwise the majority of normalfag weebs don't know nor do not care about the source material and why it's censored or mistranslated. Luckily we live in the age of the internet to prove mistranslations of the source material to the masses. However we're in a dangerous time where companies are stuck in the old ways of listening to industry gatekeepers with connections because everyone else is the "vocal minority shitposting disinformation and fake news".

So companies win by setting up localization fall guys to get #metoo'd and doxed via ResetEra to have a revolving door of inexpensive translators and they can fire long term employess with contract breach clauses to fire them without pay and benefits. More pocket for the companies themselves.

I'm certain this will be a short term profit strategy until localization in the west becomes too toxic. Then they will outsouce to Korea, India, and China. Sony has already made plans for this transition with their platform censorship policies. Localization of Japanese video games as a western business won't go away any time soon. It is very corrupt and we need to bring the stink to light. There are very few honest companies like pQube and XSEED that can last in this climate. As for in house localizers like ATLUS USA… SEGA Sammy can keep them open for marketing and multi-media like sound recording then move translating scripts to India and China where that work is cheaper if SHTF. It's a matter of time when localization costs in the west exceed investments. Cash profits is worthless to a lot of companies. Most companies get money from investments. SEGA Sammy investors call the shots at ATLUS now. Otherwise old Atlus wouldn't give a fuck about changing the ending.

>>16165061

To be more accurate, it's a semi-creole formed from Anglish and Old Norse, further combined with Norman French.

>>16165061

>SEGA Sammy investors call the shots at ATLUS now. Otherwise old Atlus wouldn't give a fuck about changing the ending.

Except they don't necessarily. This is some VA saying this shit without proper verification on a discuck channel.

>>16165437

This situation is a wait and see. The journalists and influencers are keeping quiet about Catherine. This isn't a good sign. They may be contracted to stay silent though. That said SEGA Sammy investors could worry more about PR than ATLUS Japan. Wait and see on the official word but keep digging into connections.

>>16165330

English is a nightmare to learn but easy to translate. I wasn't sure about specifics of which variants of languages were used. The French base made writing easier thanks to a Latin script.

>>16163535

>The japanese pander to people's dicks, no reason to think this is political at all.

There was literally a japanese interview where it was said the purpose of this remake was diversity and diversity of love to better represent the modern era.

>>16167195

Provide source

>>16167195

that always feels more like nips doing what they think the west wants, but then I'm here on the other side of the world, so who knows.

>>16163553

>On the bright side, Persona Q2 is coming to the west this June, and I'm willing to bet it's a far better game than those other 3 will ever be.

I mean it's an EO game. It's all Atlus got nowadays.

>>16160378

It actually did the choices matter thing better than a lot of Western games have, if you're into that sorta thing.

>>16167423

It was posted in an earlier thread when Rin's identity was leaked.

http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/800/1800501/

>The key idea behind Catherine: Full Body is "diversity".

>The idea to create Catherine came from me thinking it would be interesting to use the setting of a story concerning relationships to depict a variety of people who each hold different personal beliefs. In the seven years since the release of Catherine, romance in general as well as the way people live their lives have become a lot more diverse. So, we created Catherine: Full Body with the goal of depicting more diversity and updating the game to fit today's climate.

It's up to you whether you think this translation is accurate.

This talk about translation reminds me of a panel that ADR director Chris Ayres gave at a weeb convention. I don't remember word for word what he said, but he stressed the need for a translation to keep the context and intent intact, even if the words change to match the mouth flaps. That translating something has to be done in way that looks upon the source respectfully, and it has to be done in a way that makes the translation relevant for the local community.

Once could make an argument that that includes changing context, but I honestly believe he meant staying true to the original content. Granted, that panel was almost a decade ago, and people that I once respected (Jamie Marchi, Monica Rial) have gone off the deep end in that amount of time. But there's a little bit of me that remembers what Chris said. I still believe that deep down, that's the mentality that should be there.

But enough of this faggotry. They're not working with Atlus, we can't really be making direct comparisons here. Carry on!

>>16160435

>We need more right-wingers in anime dubbing or game localization companies in general

To be fair, this is not the best type of job for a right-wingers or pretty much for professional, at least not in the west. No person with self-respect would want to work there because it's not really treated seriously overall. There are better opportunities for competent people who know foreign languages. I mean even fucking voice acting is treated as a joke in American game industry and not just by average people but by the same people who pay them. I think this is part of the reason why this job is so popular among leftists who are extremely talentless and cheap as fuck and even they hate it, same shit with video game journalism. They're the only type who can settle for such unstable low-paid "job", they always have their daddy's money and they have no family they need to feed.

>>16160629

>Why only Japanese media get the privilege of being butchered by kikes to be palatable to judeo-negroid moral values?

Because they have no absolute control over it.

>>16167705

>that always feels more like nips doing what they think the west wants

People don't know English in Japan very well just like Americans don't know Japanese. Language barrier is the reason why we also experience the problem with localization in the first place.

To those who wanted to contact Atlus JP, the twitter of THQ Nordic right now is full of people demanding firings over simply visiting a site.

Might make for some nice fuel that these people are unhinged.

>>16177240

It might be best to keep actions like this for the weebfags that speak fluent Japanese. A tactful, well written letter would go much farther than one that's thrown through Google Translate.

The Japs are really big on respect and all that.

>>16181646

>Deadass?

Why are you talking like a nigger?

>>16181714

I have an n-word pass? :^)

>>16181176

>It might be best to keep actions like this for the weebfags that speak fluent Japanese

They will never do that what makes them even more cancerous than these faggots who fuck up their favorite games. Instead they'll make shitton of excuses to justify their usefulness.

>>16181646

>do these fuckers just NOT have anything better I oh I dunno playing some actual fucking video games?

These people are the the most worthless waste of space on Earth, literal parasites who are feeding of their parents or the government and as parasites they have a lot of free time on their hands to shit everything even more. Did you seriously expect anything else from such "people"?

>>16181769

Not anymore, fucking bitch nigger faggot cunt. Don't try anything stupid or I'll call the authorities.

>>16159853

This is one of the many negatives of paid digital distribution.

Most people who play games these days, especially on PC, are casuals who would otherwise not play games if it weren't for easy access granted by paid digital distribution, they wouldn't even bother pirating, these are the same casuals that want censorship.

>>16181868

>Did you seriously expect anything else from such "people"?

At the very least, bare miminum of humankind.

then again maybe they aren't as human as others.

>Don't try anything stupid or I'll call the authorities.

'K

>>16181964

>Most people who play games these days, especially on PC, are casuals who would otherwise not play games if it weren't for easy access granted by paid digital distribution, they wouldn't even bother pirating, these are the same casuals that want censorship.

I absolutely fucking hate how snotty and stuck up certain PC fags have become. They need at least a wake up call and a fucking reality check especially with lootboxes and DRM's because otherwise death might as well be a blessing for these fuckers.

>>16181964

It's high time Poos and Pakis get together to remove the Internet.

>>16159913

have you ever had a wife (dumb question here I know). foid logic is along the lines of

>my things are mine

>your things are ours

this is just foid logic writ large, they don't play the games, they just assume they should be tailored to them, because something not tailored to them is inconceivable.

>>16182470

that's always been a rather shitty logic, and considering who it is playing the entitlement card, it's also kind of hypocritical because they speak of "equality" yet fail.

It's honestly rather hilarious that these same neanderthals scream for justice yet they themselves are perhaps the most deserving of said "justice."

>>16159853

>>16160399

I extremely doubtful about wherever or not Catherine Full Body is censored or not because we don't know if the VA is making shit up just for some attention & the vagueness of her message is a big red flag for me. Like what >>16160407 said early about Persona 5 putting in anti-Trump references in the western version, it's was just a rumor and it COULD be the same with Catherine Full Body. In short, hope&pray for the best and except&prepare for the worse with Catherine Full Body. And for me as a bonus, I'm just going to wait for a Switch port and/or a PC DLC port for this game.