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fcfac6  No.16159762

Phones have utter shit for controls as you #1 are limited to slower clicks and #2 "clicking" anything obscures it for a moment.

Due to this, a lot of phone games are turn based. Gacha shit comes to mind.

Why then aren't there any games with actual depth? Most of the most complex games on PC barring certain exceptions like Dwarf Fortress are played entirely with the mouse. Why aren't there 4X games with the complexity of GalCiv when you can do most anything in that context on a phone?

495d0a  No.16159767

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>>16159762

>Why aren't there 4X games with the complexity of GalCiv when you can do most anything in that context on a phone?

Because nobody wants to play a fucking 4X game on their phone.


f240d1  No.16159772

Phone games are simple quick easy to get into things that you play while waiting in line, on a bus, etc. Mindless timewasters, what you're asking for is the complete polar opposite of what they excel at.


fcfac6  No.16159781

>>16159767

Actually a turned based game like that seems very appealing since you could do a turn in a couple minutes while killing time.


04d149  No.16159783

Phone games are largely for idiots to dick around with while they wait for their McSoy meal with a large butter (no ice). I criticize people repeatedly for bragging about having a "gaming laptop", and mercilessly for people who say that their only Internet device is A FUCKING PHONE. For fuck's sake, a desktop capable of running everything made before the collapse of computer gaming would cost less than a mid-grade tardcard (smartphone). If you want a toaster for emulation fun, you can get a complete refurbished Dell system with Windows 7 for about $120 shipped from TX Micro, and get the monitor and other bullshit from Goodwill for less than $30.

But no, they always make fucking excuses so they can languish in idiocy. My phone is only used to respond to the rare SMS I get, to check my bank balance and receive deposit notifications, and to read this site when I'm on the road.


fcfac6  No.16159791

>>16159783

I'm a security guard and I have huge swathes of time where I have nothing but my phone for entertainment. If I'm caught with a laptop I am fired on the spot, if I'm caught doing nothing for hours on my phone I may get told to stop.

With the increase in makework likely to happen as automation increases I think my situation will become less rare as time goes on.


fcfac6  No.16159795

>>16159794

>There are 4X games but they have the usual mobage hooks.

No, there are waiting games where you can pay to make a bar fill faster.


04d149  No.16159798

>>16159791

I would spend my mental downtime at the shitty call center at which I was a manager/IT worker thinking up shit to do when I got home. Then be too burned out to do any of it when I got home. Do you really want to be playing a game that is going to take 80% of your concentration while you're supposed to be keeping an eye on monitors and surveying property while not getting goodified in the kidneys due to staring into a phone while doing laps around the building?

If you must play video games while working, I'd say stick with emulation.


052f84  No.16159804

File: c05caace0d44fd9⋯.png (649.61 KB, 720x3000, 6:25, phone.png)

Phone games are fine


31a838  No.16159816

Selecting things with any degree of accuracy on a phone without a stylus is suffering.


2a747b  No.16159825

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>>16159791

I work nights quite often in nursing ( old folks home), answer the alarms ( sensor mats), do the rounds and check on everyone in between. As long as I'm notretarded my bosses let me read books/comics/kindle/ etc. Shit is pretty chill, hell the other staff watch netflix with the dementia patients who cant sleep.

Im very surprised that you're work isnt as lax or chill. Hell, what the fuck are you meant to do when you've done the round?

Like the other anon said, pick up emulation on your phone or get a discreet handheld (ds, vita, psp). You always do more rounds if you want to make yourself busy.


6f85ae  No.16159851

>>16159791

You're a worthless faggot, subhuman trash. Some young girl was just murdered in a parking garage and she could have been saved if the security guards were actually watching the camera. Lazy fucking nigger.


fcfac6  No.16159855

>>16159851

There are several positions that everyone is assigned to on a per shift basis. When I'm actually watching cameras I do pay attention because there's shit to do to keep me occupied, and I'm usually not alone so I can talk.

When I'm on patrol however, who gives a fuck? I'm just there to direct police if something happens, and to report to them if someone comes to me with an issue. Oh, and to make sure doors work.


ce6ba6  No.16159867

>>16159762

because phone "gamers" are mostly soccer moms, small children and braindead normalfags that get confused and don't like it when games have too much depth


6591a4  No.16159876

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>>16159804

Everytime a thread like this is made there has to be the emulation faggot. Of course they're fine retard you know full well what kind of cancer we're referring to when mentioning mobile games. And even emulation isn't that great except for RPG or touch only games


73c14a  No.16159882

No demand. People who play phone games don't want depth. People who want deep games don't use their phones to game.


2025ed  No.16159892

I have recently jailbroken my goyphone and am tested out all the apps I would never play. So far the Kingdom Rush games have been fun, haven't found any others yet. It turns out tower defense translates well to the touch screen with no buttons playstyle.

It really does come down to the lack of buttons I think. There are some actual "serious" releases for ios. KOTOR, FFT, and Monster Hunter Stories all supposedly have pretty accurate ports for example. The former 2 are definitely complex, and the latter is a full 3DS release from within the last two years, so I guess it can supposedly be done?

I know some games like TWEWY had their gameplay radically changed to accomadate for no buttons, though.


081f4c  No.16160063

phones are not for gaming


e9b3c4  No.16160068

>>16159762

Because nobody buys phone games. They can only survive on a shitty gacha model.


d5f190  No.16160071

>>16159851

nobody here cares about future roasties nor­mie


45fdb6  No.16160309

>>16159762

Anon, lemme explain as candidly as posssible

Phone games cater only to three target demographics, little kids with no or little spendable income (unless their pops gives some more for the gachashit), whales and the average Instagram user.

In order for someone to make a phone game, it needs to be profitable so that at least one of the aforementioned three groups are covered. Because of that, most phone games are one or more of the following:

>Flash games rehashed with modern day graphics

>gachashit card games

>daily bonus skinner boxes

>tie-in to more renown franchises

>single player experiences

>freemium (not fun enough to be deep but fun enough to keep someone entertained)

>flashy

>always online with connectivity applications

>with minimal input that everyone can understand

Now you can think of a shitton of cool ways to make a good phone game. You could make a gimped 4x game with emphasis on large maps that you can scroll over with your touchpad. You can make augmented reality games in the vein of pokèmon go. You can even make addictive and fast paced Papa's Burgeria ripoffs.

They won't fucking sell.

So why the hell do you expect anything good to come out of phoneshit that isn't portable gaming consoles emus? If there's no hobbyist or autist that develops such a game, you can't expect a soulless corporation to do so.


c6b02e  No.16161954

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Anyone who uses a phone has the intellect of a somalian, that's why.


ed7ce5  No.16162347

Why the fuck would I want to sit down for hours and play a game on my phone? Phone games exist for entertaining you during your 30 minute shit on company time.


ba7d1f  No.16162417

Because anyone who wants to play real games on their phones will just emulate them.


aa5ec4  No.16163003

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>>16159762

I've been thinking about this for a while, there are a few games on mobile with some depth, but they're usually a rougelike, or something. And all of them are usually ports of something on PC. I've tried a few, but for the most part I can never get into them. I think it's cause of what a lot of people are already saying it here, phones work best as essentially timewasters to fill the gap between other stuff. If I know I'm going to be spending a lot of time doing nothing, I'll bring a portable console. if I want to play something at home… well I'll probably still be playing a handheld console but I'm weird. Either way consoles are designed for gaming, and you can plug a controller into a PC. If you're the kinda person to want a more in-depth gaming experience you're probably going to own some kind of dedicated gaming hardware, and you're probably gonna pick that over smearing your thumbs across a phone screen when you have the time to play something in-depth.


6d96d4  No.16163802

File: f5aba53b165a6d6⋯.jpg (104.9 KB, 500x375, 4:3, radial menu.jpg)

Touchscreens aren't that bad as input.

I think the main problems people have are that they have greasy inarticulate sausages for fingers.

Fine movements are done by rolling your fingers not pushing them around.

The real retarded move is that the "cursor" is beneath the finger when it should be offset so you can see whatever the fuck you're doing.

I've only seen a radial menu wheel like 5 times and 2 of them were productivity apps.

I'm not defending touch as an input, there needs to be joysticks.

touchscreen < stylus < (like 20 more <) < gamepad < mouse/keyboard < VR that isn't shit

>>16160309

Adding to this.

Wired or bluetooth controllers retail for < $20.

Why isn't some android company packaging a cheap $2 to manufacture form-fit usb joystick and triggers for their phone?

Then they could anonymously market a bunch of emus on (((MSM))).

It wouldn't have to be a nintendo switch killer for the increased sales to be worthwhile.

It's like they are waiting for the top 10 phone game companies to beg for joysticks through the tip of their dicks.

Mobile is an untapped market.

Whales are completely irrelevant.

Baiting the 0.1% of the population who only on average spend $100 a month is a joke compared to the 100% of the population who would spend $60 on a good game.

The player base just falls in their lap and they don't know what to do with it.

There's 2.5 billion smart phone owners.

2.4 billion people own a gaming console yet haven't bought a game for it.


e90db9  No.16163839

>>16163802

>2.4 billion people own a gaming console yet haven't bought a game for it.

Puzzles and slot machine don't count? That's the only games you'll expect any buyers for.


e9b3c4  No.16163849

>>16163802

>100% of the population who would spend $60 on a good game

Except nobody is going to pay $60 for a phone game.


0ce8c9  No.16163851

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>>16159825

>@BurnCoalPayToll


6d96d4  No.16164142

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20b6ae  No.16164419

>>16159783

>he runs Windows on his emulator machine




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