/v/ - Video Games

damn, I'm a drug addict but I've never heard of such a pathetic thing as gamer drugs.

I hope you're a jew or something.

>>16152727

Why do you like jews, anon? I don't like them but i wonder why you do.

Adderal, Modafinil as uppers and maybe some beta blockers to keep nerves calm under pressure could work wonders depending on the genre. You have to think fast-twitch games would drastically benefit.

HRT seems quite popular with speedrunners. Not sure why.

xanax/valium really help with competitive shooters and such. at those "startling" split second changes, you stay calm and are able to aim/move smoothly.

I have heard using something like Adderal to train non-stop but not sure about using them for tournaments.

I imagine the only drugs that would make you better at Vidya would be Ritalin or cocaine.

Some people that play competitive take adderall. I think it was a well known thing that all top starcraft players take adderal

Meth works pretty well

>>16152810

HRT helps with skeleton body and fingers, turns you into a god-like speedrunner at the cost of your humanity.

>>16152819

Top Counterstrike players openly talk about how their team chat is fucked up because they're all high on adderall during big matches. (And eventually the cheaters will start getting the same drug mixes CEOs use to stay on top of their 'game'.)

>>16152819

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>>16152830

thats more for alertness since alot of them get sleepy without it. i wouldnt really ever describe it as a performance enhancer. no more than coffee or cigarettes.

>>16152865

thanks doc

>>16152865

>doing a drug made for getting you off of heroin because it fills the void without feeling good.

I don't imagine it goes any further than the likes of caffeine. I honestly doubt any amount of drugs will git you gud.

>>16152690

Nootropics, adderal, ritalin, cocaine.

>>16152939

that would be a tranquilizer like low-dose xanax, half of a 5mg valium, or a low dose klonopin.

>>16152863

Meth speeds up cognitive functions, which is useful in a focused mental activity. That is why without one methheads go through a shit ton of wild ideas and theories rambling them off at a non-stop pace. Couple that with sleep deprivation and their overworked brains drift into psychosis. Meth freshly used after never being on a binge before would make you a much better gamer as long as the game isn't slow paced. However the addiction and continual binges would make you worse than normal over time.

>>16153023

speeds up, but does not affect the ability to control those functions.

youre sounding like one of those retard stoners that think their thoughts while stoned are profound.

>>16153057

>here's a youtube video bro

Yeah, you are a retarded nigger alright.

>>16153067

im making fun of you for thinking youre any smarter while using meth or any upper for that matter, dipshit.

>>16153073

>i'm retarded, watch me be so fucking retarded, not that you couldn't tell since I failed to even read your post and think you are promoting meth

>>16152690

I'm way better at twitchy stuff when I'm on adderall.

>>16152690

As much as penis enlargement pills.

>>16153120

>I'm retarded, so why can't you just accept my retarded opinion?

You didn't correct shit, nigger. You made a false equivocation about meth and weed and spouted an opinion that I do not believe you have any facts to back up. I on the other hand have used meth and experienced both the positive and immensely negative aspects of the drug. Meth WILL make you think, react, and act faster. It will NOT make you smarter, because cognitive speed will not magically give you knowledge you do not have. It can make you learn simple things (like how to do things in a game) faster, but it will not allow you to learn complicated things (like advanced mathematics) faster because you won't be able to retain much knowledge due to lack of sleep and will further be impaired by not staying focused on a singular subject for long enough to learn anything deep about it.

What I said about "focused mental activity" didn't mean one subject, but instead a subject (such as game) that focuses all aspects of the user's brain. I know that this works from personal experience. I also know that such a gain only exists with a fresh mind, not one that has been binging on meth, and certainly not one that has been up for days. I also know that the addiction to meth will not take long to bring a user to the point where meth hampers mental and physical activity, because you will use more and you will be up longer.

Now go be a retarded nigger somewhere else.

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>>16152819

Depends on the person, if you don't need it then Adderal is said to make you lackadaisical and euphoric. If you're a literal autist then it could word as an enhancement, but it might hinder you otherwise.

I imagine there are some reaction time improving drugs out there, should be really useful. I always hit a ceiling in every multiplayer game where I reach top 10% and stay there because tactics and analysis stop giving me an edge over retards and I lack reaction speed to perform well against pros.

Are there any junkies here who know something of the sort, purchasable in a drug store? I can't afford shipping to my bumfuckistan.

>>16153156

>Meth WILL make you think, react, and act faster

see the first sentence in

>>16153057

want to try again, retard?

>>16153183

>see the first retarded sentence

Yeah, I disagree with your claim about inability to control, because that is bullshit. The stereotype of the jittery random methhead exists because that is the state a regular user ends up at. It is not what initially happens. You can certainly think about what you need to do in a game pretty much instantly, react to new situations in a game faster, and push the correct buttons on a controller faster. I know this from experience doing meth and playing RTS games like Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion and more than doubling my actions and absolutely curbstomping friends I would otherwise be evenly matched with. I also have experienced trying to get this same effect continually, binging on meth, and becoming trash at everything I could normally do well. Meth will get the effect I described, but it will not be repeatable without long breaks between uses which will not happen because you will chase the euphoric feeling of meth.

>>16153203

just keep switching between meth and coffee. chug coffee, take a break and do meth while tolerance drops, take break from meth and start chugging coffee while losing tolerance to meth

>>16153209

Such self control would be impressive. I too approached it like I could control it and not end up like the guy I was buying the shit from, but such is not the case. You will get addicted to it and you will do more and need more to get the same effect as your tolerance goes up. You will also become more irrational and "crazy" as time goes on, acting on impulses you otherwise wouldn't have.

>>16153203

>because that is bullshit

wtf do you think meth does?

its just an upper that causes a surge in dopamine/norepinephrine while blocking their reuptake. it also has an effect on serotonin 5-ht during "meth psychosis" but thats not relevent at "low" doses.

it has no effect on the ability to control impulses, nomatter what your brain thinks, hence why i said the 2nd sentence.

you sound like a pothead talking about how profound his high is.

nigger tier logic.

>>16152810

From what I can tell, it sequence breaks past the middle and old age parts and allows them to cut 30 to 50 years off their run.

>>16153160

It's meth. Lab-grade meth, but meth all the same. If you take a small enough dose you won't get to the point of euphoria. Just find a pill, scrape a bit off the side and try that amount. If you feel no effects, keep going until you do. Then have the brain to stop yourself before it gets to intense.

>>16153241

>adderall is meth

>even though it has no methyl group

>this causes massive changes in how it affects you

>people who are given prescriptions (i.e. with ADD/ADHD) are affected differently compared to normalfags

>actual pharmaceutical meth is a thing, under the name Desoxyn

>but adderall is still totally meth gaise lol

>>16153241

theyre both forms of amphetamine, not meth.

adderall is dextroamphetamine.

>>16153257

>this causes massive changes in how it affects you

not really. just how its metabolized. from a users perspective the difference is potency.

its like the difference between hydrocodone and oxycodone.

>>16153229

Controlling impulses has absolutely no effect on the topic at hand which is playing a game, but continue to move goalposts and ignore everything that I have said about meth in this thread. You had a knee-jerk reaction because you thought I was saying meth makes you smarter, it is even in that post. Which tells me you are retarded enough to think faster thinking == smart. I am also not relying on some bullshit study, but my own experience. That is no way similar to a stoner claiming that weed makes their thoughts more "profound" because weed does not do that (again I know this from experience).

Meth does everything that I said it does. Whether it does this for everyone or not I do not know. I am not other people. My brother got more aggressive and became an asshole on meth regardless of duration or proximity of usage, where as I initially became a better more outgoing and understanding person. I do think the effects can vary like any drug on a person to person basis, but it absolutely did what I described for me. The general effects of being faster at pretty much everything seemed to me to apply to everyone else I saw using it too. Same goes for the negative effects.

>>16153274

read the first post of mine you replied to. im not moving the goalposts. its what i said from the start.

the ability to control thoughts is more important than the ability to have them. retards can "think" a mile a minute. and speed can make them quickly regurgitate their retarded thoughts. just like youre doing right now.

meth does the latter, rather than the former.

you even tried to argue about the ability to control.

so, tell me the mechanism of action for meth helping you to control your thoughts you blabbering retard.

>>16153303

>i'm not doing what I clearly did!

And here you are arguing that someone thinking about what they need to do in a game and quickly doing it is the same as someone thinking they have discovered some fundamental secret of life based on what little knowledge they have about the subject. You are just retarded and I don't even know why you keep doubling down on this topic when you clearly do not know what you are talking about.

>>16153388

what good is a reaction if its not an appropriate reaction? does this concept confuse your stupid little nigger brain?

nigger, my first post was about fast thoughts not being helpful if theyre not controlled thoughts. and meth does not help you control your thoughts

>>16153391

>methhead

I've dealt with enough of your kind to say I sincerely hope you just blow your brains out now and save society the trouble later.

t. hospital worker in the midwest

>>16153257

I'm speaking colloquially, you mongrol.

>>16153271

knows what I meant. But leave it to an autist to sperg over a colloquialism, right?

>>16153417

>what good is a reaction if its not an appropriate reaction

And again you are a retarded nigger who doesn't know what he is talking about. You most certainly can reaction appropriately to a game while on meth.

>>16153433

>I'm discussing chemical similarity and physiological impact

>but in, like, a colloquial way

There is no drug that enhances reaction times or hand-eye-coordination

>>16153472

Same shit here. I don't think I could survive exteded family reunions without booze.

>>16153423

just convince him to start mainlining it to save money. it'll make it easier for the workers to clean up.

>>16153433

its not a colloquialism. i was correcting you. theyre not both meth, meth and adderall are both amphetamines. no need to get insulted.

>>16153444

never said you couldnt, nigger brain. i said meth doesnt aid in reacting appropriately. and if you speed up the output without speeding up the quality control, guess what happens?

this isnt a complicated topic, anon. although for you, it seems to be

>>16153487

there are natural factors that can hinder reaction times and hand-eye coordination though, and there are drugs that can reduce the effect those natural factors have.

I was on adderall for like a month years ago. I can see why top competitive players get high off their asses with these heartattack concoctions to grind insane hours, but in terms of immediate "skill gains", I didn't experience much outside of a decent boost to focus, but that won't help much if you're incredibly shit to begin with.

if you want to play better, you'd be better off taking a benzo, vicodin or something like phenibut. weed is a meme nigger drug, dont touch it

>>16153423

Stories?

>>16154007

I'm pretty sure alcohol is banned as a PED in pro sports because it can calm you down and give you a bit of a confidence boost or something.

Every time I take adderall and play video games I just spend hours and hours focusing on the character creator or doing boring quests or rearranging my inventory.

>>16153423

We need stories.

>>16152690

>performance-enhancing gamer drugs

That's unironically the most retarded and pathetic thing I think I've ever heard.

>>16153423

That reminds me: everyone I knew in every dorm in my medical university smoked pot and drank vodka. I even got roped into snorting some powder once. Is it like that everywhere or is it just slavlands?

>>16154007

>If you have any sense left in your drug-addled mind you'll never use that stuff again.

I actually haven't used in about 5 years, not since the girl I was getting it from ended up getting pregnant (not mine, by the way - I hadn't fucked her since high school) and I got in a fight with her while trying to convince her to quit. So since she was my primary dealer, I just walked away because I couldn't in good conscience contribute to the environment that would fuck that poor kid's life right from the womb.

Even when I was using it, it was never more than about half a gram a month, since I wasn't about to actually pay for it. Further up the chain was a pretty fair dude all things considered who would give out a little over a quarter the yeild in repayment divided by the people who contributed boxes of pseudo - and since you can only buy a box a month by law - that was my allotment.

I knew exactly what the fuck I was dealing with, and stuck to the periphery of the scene.

Meth does

>>16155347

stay awake*

>>16152883

methadone is pretty much heroin it's just safe. If a sober person took methadone he'd be sucking his own dick like he just did a shot of the real shit.

>>16154007

>When I drink beer there's a sweet spot between tipsy and drunk where I get really damn good at FPS and fighting games

This but Danmaku. It's somewhere between three and five beers that I end up untouchable in Touhou. It's impossible to maintain the exact level while playing but sometimes for shits and giggles I will load up lunatic and graze fucking everything.

>>16152810

Well, I mean if you want a nonjoke answer, body dysmorphia can be learned and trannies infect other people with tranny. Whether or not it's intentional or not is up for debate, but the growing usefulness of the tranny identitarian group is potential for it being deliberative.

Additionally: this is your reminder for the day, if you have any exceptionally vulnerable acquaintences or friends, keep them away from trannies and instruct them on the proper way to deal with people with body dysmorphic mental conditions

>>16155601

>implying all drugs are harmful

>implying more of the boring lifespan is better than having more fun

>>16155904

>can't have fun without artificially altering your state of mind

this is sad and it just speaks about the state humanity is in

>>16155968

I don't even take any drugs, are you projecting? I haven't even drank alcohol in years because its harm-to-pleasure ratio is piss poor.

>taking drugs/stimulants to play better at a videogame

pathetic

>talking about drugs with underage and neet /v/ kiddies

I guess you've never played any vidya game high on Ritalin have you OP?

>>16152690

I get prescribed a type of dextroamphetamine and it has increased my enjoyment of games a lot, my focus increases greatly and I feel much more sucked in or 'immersed'. I figure reflexes and situational awareness increases a bit and with a greater focus comes quicker and better thinking/decision making.

But I don't think the impact is significant unless you put two super top tier players of exact equal skill up against each other.

When I started taking it, and when I got my dosage upped I felt very euphoric but after a week or two it settled down to a more baseline 'good mood'. Which I'm honestly fine with, daily life has improved a lot. Really good drug, can recommend 9/10.

>>16156267

>Never done drugs to enhance my skill, only the experience. Playing Journey while on acid was pretty damn chill.

It can be pretty nice but my problem is that you're somewhat limited in your choice of games. Can't play anything too complicated or attempt to learn something while smoking weed (tried to play factorio, was really hard) though simple shit like RPG's can be good. Alcohol can be fun in multiplayer games but it also degrades your skill and after a while I just get lazy, not wanting to put in the effort of playing.

>>16155386

no

I remember someone that was competing with me getting on Adderall to give himself and advantage but he still lost and ended up having a mental breakdown.

of course, there are tonnes of drugs that help with increasing focus and all that

Stimulants could help you to stay focused and practice more. It is no guarantee though. You can take adderall and do mundane tasks all day without much benefit, so you still need the motivation to actually play a game and get better. I don't think benzos would help too much like some people said. Maybe at low doses if you're really nervous to the point it drastically affects you. Take too much and you're likely to forget what you're doing or just not care. This is all in regards to responsible use. Take too much too often and neglect your health and it will hurt your performance.

>>16156588

>I don't think benzos would help too much like some people said. Maybe at low doses if you're really nervous to the point it drastically affects you.

The benefits of chilling out are not to be underestimated. A long time ago, I was prescribed Valium for an injury, and I played a lot of TF2 while recovering. For the first few hours after taking each dose, I got way better at the game, especially when playing my main, Spy. I was an okay player already, but once I stopped worrying about every single action I was going to take ahead of time, and making contingency plans in my head for every single thing that could go wrong, it was like I had stopped sword fighting with my off hand. It was an important lesson.

I was also given hydro or oxy, I forget which, but it didn't seem to have any cognitive effect other than reducing the pain enough that I could be in the mood to play a game at all.

I've been on adderall all my life because i have severe ADHD, and I don't know, maybe its different for me, but it doesn't really boost my performance as in make me better at something, it simply gives me hyperfocus. For me it kinda just lets me function mostly though. Hyperfocus sounds like something that should improve your gameplay but when I'm off my meds I pretty much play the same.

If adderall is a PED then its a bad one because it burns you the fuck out when you start to crash, its probably not something you should abuse if you don't have ADHD, shits not worth it.

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>>16153257

The "Adderall is literally meth" argument is the most hilarious strawman. You can also say "codeine is LITERALLY heroin in a pill guys!" both codeine and heroin come from poppy's and both are converted into morphine in the body. The big difference is 1. The chemicals are different and 2. The strength of the two drugs are massively different. If you leave out those two things you are just being a totally ignorant retard who knows nothing about pharmacology and drugs

>>16158718

>degenerates

>on /v/

imagine my shock

>>16152822

>>16153023

When I played BW competitively, I tried ritalin and i played much worse. I'd end up making stupid ass mistakes I wouldn't make otherwise, and losses felt real protracted. Like I'd get into a losing situation in the first few mins, and the rest of the game was me just scraping by. Maybe it would be better for twitch shooters or something. Haven't tried it since.Thx for reading my blog post about drug abuse to get better @ a video game

>>16152865

>he doesn't go on autistic six hour methadone /pol/ + /v/ binges

maximum pleb

>>16158718

I'd sell your faggot ass to the jews for a single tab of acid.

>>16153229

>>16153067

>>16153023

Meth just turns you into a gibbering retard who will call people at 3am to tell them about the Kennedy assassination and some mundane personal interaction from years ago

Source: my meth addicted mom

>>16158785

That's wierd, my mom's the same and the doesn't do meth.

Hang all drug users, they are broken, don't worry trying to fix them, just hang em.

>>16158808

For what purpose? To satisfy your moralfaggotry?

>>16158808

Stop talking big game online and take a rope to starbucks yourself. Caffeine is a drug.

>>16152727

Same shit uni students use to improve performance.

>>16152810

Estrogen has been shown to treat symptoms of autism in animal models, which is one reason why trannies feel better on it. They then think this is evidence that they're really a woman deep down and decide that if they get their dicks inverted they'll feel even better, and that's when you get transition regret suicides (trannies are already pretty suicidal even before transition, though).

https://archive.fo/IKQWt

>>16158912

>Estrogen has been shown to treat symptoms of autism in animal models, which is one reason why trannies feel better on it.

Talk about the worst case of a positive feedback loop. It's funny how the fags that claim to be on the side of these mentally ill people are the ones that make it worse. Ironically testosterone has a protective effect on Alzheimer's also, so the few trannies that make it to old age are going to have bigger incidence of AD than normal people.

>>16158930

>It's funny how the fags that claim to be on the side of these mentally ill people are the ones that make it worse.

It really is criminal what political pressure has done to research on this topic. Any study that's done either has to support the progressive narrative that trannies are exactly what they claim to be or get contorted to fit into Blanchard's typology in order to get any attention. There's plenty of low-hanging fruit left that doesn't get picked because nobody wants to risk their careers over it, so the best you can do is look at anecdotes and research on other topics that happens to be relevant.

>Ironically testosterone has a protective effect on Alzheimer's also

Do you have a source on that? I know men are less likely to get it than women, but I wasn't sure if testosterone was the reason.

I self medicate with cannabis for my depression. It really helps me get interested in stuff

>>16152828

Weirdly enough, most of them seem to get worse at speedrunning post transition.

>>16159499

Not surprising, if I'm right that estrogen is partially suppressing their autism.

>>16159499

It's likely because becoming a tranny and taking all those pills makes people even more mentally unstable then they already are. Narssciawright is the best example of this

This is actually a pretty interesting thread. Junkies, how have drugs affected your performance and enjoyment of vidya?

>>16159544

>you_discuss_me.mp4

I wonder if the massive egos and narcissism trannies have is just a front for their self hatred and loathing.

>>16159593

>people with a mental disorder that leads them to mutilate themselves, change their names, try to erase all trace of their former identities, and often kill themselves hate themselves

wow, i never would have guessed that

>>16158912

Interesting considering there's a hypothesis that autism is just an extreme male brain. Perhaps if these people took small doses of estrogen instead of full on HRT then'd alleviate the autism while not fucking their mind and body.

>>16152690

I've been prescribed both Adderall and Dexedrine for ADHD, generally speaking it does help some with focus if you're a scatterbrained spastic who can't sit still to save his life like me, but I prefer to play games off the stuff because my enjoyment is hampered on the drugs.

Oh, and the comedowns suck.

>>16159664

>Interesting considering there's a hypothesis that autism is just an extreme male brain

I'm not sure how much stock to put in that hypothesis, since it tries to reduce male vs. female brain differences to systematizing vs. empathizing, which I don't think is a complete picture. Certainly autists, at least those that are capable of functioning at all, lean more toward systematizing than empathizing, but are they more behaviorally masculine than the average male on other dimensions? I doubt it.

>Perhaps if these people took small doses of estrogen instead of full on HRT then'd alleviate the autism while not fucking their mind and body.

Maybe. That'll probably never be studied, though, unless somebody tries it on himself.

>>16159664

>ZOG theories of why poisoned kids are """"autistic""""

Watch Trace Amounts on youtube

I once got the highest score I've ever had during a a pinball game while on shrooms.

>>16159785

>The comedowns are awful

Can confirm. Used to have to take Vyvanse for the whole day then Adderall to hold me over until I got home. When it wore off, it felt like a sudden spike in depression and mood swings and I would sometimes end up depressed or angry and tired. Worst thing my psychiatrist ever prescribed. Now I'm on antidepressants which severely limit my sex drive

>>16152690

>le e-sport meme

do real sports faggots.

i swear that retards that push that sort of shit are the ones who look like gollum and are self-concious about it, but can't be bother to do the effort.

either be at peace with looking like a skelli, or move your ass.

>>16158912

>[current year] studies

yeah, the same that pretend that faggotry is A-OK, because taking it up the arse like a little bitch is totally not abnormal, as demonstrated by the expression "shove it up your ass", which doesn't invite people to stop at once.

The simple Truth is that trannies are the deep end of the faggot disorder spectrum, as demonstrated by faggots in Iran, where homosexuality is condemned by hanging but trannies are somehow okay.

>>16159664

>'tism is extreme male brain

non-sense, in fact a number of 'tism monsters show extremely feminine features.

They're just being retarded, and natural selection would occur if society had any sense.

BPS is a moron aswell, that should stick to try to push buttcoins for his jew overlords.

>>16159803

hear hear

>>16159799

The systematizing vs. empathizing theory is based entirely on how you score on a test, Autism is just that but more extreme. Female and Male brains are wired differently but all the fake news supporting the theory is doing it more because of politics then any credibility. Note how autism is used as a label for anyone who dedicates themselves to anything, for any reason with the context that you're a free for committing yourself.

>>16159812

>yeah, the same that pretend that faggotry is A-OK

That study does not at all attempt to make the connection to trannies. Most autists aren't trannies, and the idea that the benefits trannies experience from going on HRT aren't a result of HRT changing their bodies to better match their minds would be shouted down if you tried to publish it.

>>16159814

>Autism is just that but more extreme

There are lots of people with autism who can't even function well enough to take a test. Maybe in some sense what you're saying is true, but it's not an obvious one.

>>16159821

I don't think you understood what I was saying, the whole theory is a farce based off looking at some test results, then extrapolating an extreme of that and saying "this is autism, also extreme male which is autism"

>>16160162

>Lolita, a term that comes from an English novel from the 1950s, applies exclusively to my 2D japanese waifus

You're retarded anon.

>>16160367

>a term that comes from an English novel from the 1950s

>A fictional work

>First coined and used by Japanese to refer to characters in fictional works in the 1970s

Anon I…

>>16160392

You're just repeating what the guy you responded to said, you numbskull.

>>16160514

>Opioids in general make it more fun to play games.

Complete bullshit, gaming on opiates is boring as hell as you'll get as much pleasure laying down as you will playing. I fucking hate how boring opiates make everything.

>>16160587

>The term comes from the publishing of the book "Lolita complex"

Literally everyone knows that you mouth breath retard.

>>16160587

Don't bother discussing matters with weebs. They are just like SJWs. Just report him and Mark will scan his history and probably ban him. Weebs are shitposting like mad, they're cancerous as fuck so it's only a matter of time before he gets purged.

>>16160606

Then why make the claim that it's "Japanese coined" you mongoloid?

>>16160624

>Newfag doesn't know how to reply

And traps aren't gay anon.

>>16160641

>Then why make the claim that it's "Japanese coined" you mongoloid?

They were the first to use it out of context of the book as it's own word. Of course you don't seem to understand what context is so I can see how that went over your head.

There's zero reason to use drugs. The whole "drugs expand your mind" "drugs make you better" etc are just pushed by drug dealers who want you to use their product. Hallucinogens cause, as you might expect, HALLUCINATIONS. No one gets smarter, more aware, etc. They're just being tricked by their minds fucking with them because someone planted the suggestion that THIS IS WHAT DRUGS CAN DO FOR YOU. Placebo effect.

If someone tries to tell you that drugs make video games better, be most wary of all, because they probably have something to sell to you. And that thing will fuck up your mind.

>>16160807

It was actually pushed by psychologists and chemists who were looking to synthesize religious enlightenment, and then widely spread by people looking to have a justification for their obsession with their own pleasure. Same old modern people trying to disprove the need for a god by repeatedly attempting to manufacture themselves into one. You can get a religious experience from certain drugs, but without the proper base and context it's completely random and mostly ineffective compared to even simple meditation.

Yes, but not in as linear a way as with physical sports. Drugs can only give you marginal gains in focus/reaction time in my experience, and the effect starts reversing due to the tunnel vision effect pretty fast if you do too much Adderall/coke/[insert whatever other upper]. On the flipside, there's definitely a place for downers in a competitive context if you get nervous/choke a lot. Personally I find I'm significantly better at fighting games after a couple of drinks simply because I don't get nervous/panic and make stupid mistakes.

So yeah, you'll probably be better at CSGO after 10 mg of Adderall and a couple beers, but not by much.

>>16160590

This is an interesting angle; I've heard lots of stories of people "resetting" their perspectives and breaking bad habits after doing acid, but never thought about it applying to games.

>>16160705

>you don't have to entertain any ideas presented ever.

Isn't that already the case? Don't get so full of yourself and your faux-intellectualism. Nobody owes you anything, kid.

>>16160925

>I-I don't owe you anything

Sure thing pedo.

>>16160611

>Don't bother discussing matters with weebs. They are just like SJWs.

>Proceeds to contribute nothing and beg mods to silence wrongthink.

Really makes you think.

>>16155968

just play video games to feel good like the rest of us fucking losers lol

>>16160807

> "drugs expand your mind"

The way most hallucinogens work is that they literally force your brain into making new neural pathways. It's very common for people to "see sound" and other mixes different senses. That's what a hallucination is; the wires in the brain for your for specifically your senses being crossed.

When you come out of a trip, partly because you just fried the fuck out of your original pathways, your brain is forced into making new ones. What you are talking about is the meme that got started in the 60s attempting to describe this feeling.

>just pushed by drug dealers who want you to use their product

At least for "hippy" drugs like weed and hallucinogens, they aren't malicious car salesmen. Every drug dealer I have ever met was a fucking retard but generally harmless. They aren't smart enough to manipulate people like that and are just people trying to monetize their hobby after they met a big enough supplier; or in the case of weed, began growing way too much for themselves. In other words, it's a drug culture thing, not a sales pitch all of the pedelers got together and decided on at a union meeting.

>>16152690

coffee's alright.

>>16152690

I once watched someone get so stoned they couldn't remember how to stand up or talk. He did, however, manage to beat Bionic Commando deathless in that state, which was also the first time they'd ever beaten the game. He then beat it a second time in the same sitting.