d704f2 No.16147125
What are some genuinely bullshit levels, sections of levels, bosses, or enemies in gaming? I'm talking poorly designed bullshit like Bed of Chaos from Dark Souls, complete failures in game design and mechanics. It can be from games that are actually pretty good otherwise.
>Farron Keep, Nightmare Frontier, Iron Keep
What the fuck is Miyazaki's fetish for poison swamps that slow you down to a crawl? What is FROM's fetish for forcing the player to inflict status effects upon themselves to get items? The underside of Nightmare Frontier especially is just a labyrinth of poison bullshit and the items aren't worth the resources you have to waste to get them. The poison slows you down despite not even being ankle deep. Farron keep is the underside of Nightmare Frontier made into an entire level rather than just being a section of it. It's saving grace is that the Abyss Watchers is a great fight. And I know Miyazaki didn't direct DaS2, but Iron Keep followed the same philosophy of "LOL you have to take environmental damage to get the useless items LOL enjoy these status effects LOL I sure hope you leveled up your resistances LOL"
>Amygdala
Amygdala is actually a good boss, but her jump attack specifically is complete bullshit
>jumps
>breaks lock on
>camera can't look up far enough to see her
>the sun is angled so that most of the arena is steeped in shadow
>can't see amygdala's drop shadow in 95% of the arena because of this
>you'll have no idea where she will land until she's already crushed your skull
If the point of an attack is to dodge it, why would you make it so that the player can't keep visual track of the attack and has no means to anticipate when it will even land? Dodging it is a complete crapshoot. There are strategies to either stand still or walk towards the direction her tail was pointing, but they aren't definite means of dodging. The attack is also a one shot kill, so if you happen to guess wrong on the attack you can't fucking see, you have to start all over.
77c6ec No.16147141
8e7bdf No.16147153
>4 gold batboons draw near
4131eb No.16147156
>>16147125
> "LOL you have to take environmental damage to get the useless items LOL enjoy these status effects LOL I sure hope you leveled up your resistances LOL"
Isn't the dispelling ring+1 plus flame quartz ring+3 (both of which are available immediately after Iron Keep) plus being wet plus flash sweat (which has no requirements since there's attunement slot rings) enough to get you to 900 fire defense, which reduces the damage from the lava by 99%? Sure, you'll take some damage, but you'd have several minutes without healing before you died.
3e6d36 No.16147188
Sewer level are always shit (literally)
d4b94e No.16147197
>Souls
>Bullshit
GG motherfucker
1f5bcc No.16147260
i beat all of those things on my first try git gud
65eb10 No.16147295
>Barrels 'o Fun
>there's actually no fun
d704f2 No.16147299
>>16147197
Those levels aside, Souls is full of bullshit but it gets a pass because everything else is excellent. Except for DaS2, of course.
>Enemy attacks clip through walls
>Enemy attacks clip through fog walls in 3
>3 taking procedural bosses too far with Sister Friede
>Gimmick bosses like Yhorm and Wolnir being massive disappointments
>Bed of Chaos
>The entirety of Demon Ruins/Lost Izalith plays like a FROM intern fucking around with the level editor for the first time
>Slowly wading through poison swamp bullshit
>Bosses interrupting recovery animations to start new attacks
>Damage frames lasting longer than the actual attack animation (especially with the the giant you fight on the balcony in 3, and the rock throwing trolls in BB)
If it weren't for the combat and lore surrounding the bullshit, the Souls games would be disregarded as shit. FROM's best game was the first DaS anyway and they were never able to really capture that again.
afd9fe No.16147302
>>16147188
I'm guessing you're talking about REmake 2
2fc172 No.16147311
>>16147302
No anon, hes talking about any videogame that ever came out with a sewer level in it.
d704f2 No.16147320
>>16147156
The biggest thing for me was that the payoff was never worth the trouble of doing any of that
06c6dd No.16147321
HL2 vehicle levels are so miserably boring, that they're bullshit by default
4131eb No.16147355
>>16147320
Chaos storm and a fire seed is totally worth it if you're playing a pyromancer. The rest is total shit though, you're right.
be6a8b No.16147368
Pure Land in Secret of Mana. They just ramp up the enemies' attack/hp drastically out of nowhere, forcing you to grind, spam healing spells/items, exit to rest, and repeat until you can get through it. It's not impossible or anything, just an annoying dick around that fucks up the flow of the game.
91ca1a No.16147501
what about bullshit game?
000000 No.16147521
0269ad No.16147525
Etrian Odyssey 1 - Sandy Barrens (fourth stratum). For anyone who doesn't know the game - you have to clear the whole stratum in one sitting; if you want to save the game you have to go back to town. There's five floors. The enemies on the last floor are stupidly strong; when you first meet them you will only maybe beat two or three before having to go back to town. What's the catch? The quest requires you to beat the boss of that stratum, but he WILL FUCKING RESPAWN if all his minions on the floor aren't killed.
Up until this moment in the game, item cost was pretty managable - you could buy everything you wanted. But here, you have weak fucking items and the stronger ones cost like 50000 - and without those you can't hope to beat the floor. That means clearing five long floors to get to the bottom, killing a few enemies, selling their drops, going back to town, rinse and repeat until you are strong enough. Grindy as fuck in a game that has avoided the grind problem until then.
1f5bcc No.16147596
>>16147525
>sandy barrens
>not the 4th stratum with the flowers that can sleep your entire party to death, featuring an actual maze in one of the floors
1f5bcc No.16147599
>>16147596
I meant 5th stratum
0ad018 No.16147606
>>16147188
DID SOMEONE SAY SEWERS??
ebbc08 No.16147827
>>16147125
Amygdala is only hard in the defiled chalice when you get one shot by most of her attacks. Otherwise I found her far easier in comparison to Darkbeast Paarl, Bloodletting Beast, Martyr Lorgarius, Ebrietas, Pthumerian Elder, and all the DLC bosses. You can dodge her jumping attack by running towards the previous location of her tail, and rolling forward right before she hits the ground. Make sure you do this in a straight line though, her arms can crush you if you stray a little to the left or right. Also poison levels are pretty simple games of resource management, and it’s hilarious to see people panic when you invade in them.
d0fc2e No.16148251
>>16147299
>Sister Friede
>Bullshit
I'll give you the rest but fuck you.
eb346b No.16148301
Guild Wars 2
Literally fucking ANYTHING that involves more than five players in the same place:
>world boss/meta event
>boss usually has some huge telegraphed moves you have to dodge or you get blasted to chinese hell in one shot
>except there's 50-60 other guys spamming their giant AOE bullshit
>there's lightning going off, explosions, giant cats with laser swords, giant blasts of water, your UI getting obscured by combo indicators, fire effects, rocks flying all over the screen
>but the "boss is doing a big move you need to dodge" indicator is on the fucking ground and goes below player models and all of their ability effects
>add to this the fact that the game barely runs and your framerate drops to a solid 11 in these situations
>5v5 PVP
>just make an Asura character
>they're much smaller than the other playermodels
>their weapons are also smaller so you can't really get a read on what move they're doing unless you're keeping track of them
>keeping track of them in a fight where ten people are spamming AOE bullshit attacks, flying all over the screen with speed buffs and leap moves, dropping framerate destroying particle effects and generally making a massive clusterfuck of it
>the "bad shit indicators are on the bottom layer of the floor" problem is even worse here
>play as a Charr holosmith so I'm both bigger than all of the other people in the matches and I glow neon orange when I'm using my class ability so I always get focused first
>world versus world PVP
>lmao just run with a zerg and shit AOE abilities into the enemy zerg
1a42cd No.16148315
>>16147321
Every vehicle level in HL2 feels like a miserable slog just to make sure you reach the proper amount of vehicular gameplay saturation before they let you go back to getting shot to death.
e7bac5 No.16148316
>>16147302
The sewers aren't that bad if you've stocked up on enough defensive items and use the environment to dodge some of the g monsters' attacks. Shoot troublesome zombies while they're sleeping and that'll make life easier later on too.
>>16147827
>Bloodletting Beast
The headless chalice version was utter bs. Chalice Darkbeast was really bad as well. There was one that jumps backwards and dives across the room and that one can fuck right off.
68ef05 No.16148322
Farron Keep is a bad level, but it's too short (if you know what you're doing) to really be annoying. Estus shard -> first tower -> second tower -> bonfire -> bone shard -> third tower and you're done with the main content. Add two more trips for sorcery shit and Watchdog. You can basically run in two straight lines without even bothering with any of the enemies. I always see it as just an item dump I'll take before I even do the cathedral
474378 No.16148326
DaS2Scholar by virtue of just adding more enemies and ambushes as to "make it difficult", not to mention NPC phantoms not following the rules about light armor and poise like Fencer Sharon who is dressed in rags and still tanks like a Havel.
68ef05 No.16148327
>>16148322
Also, the actual keep part with the stray demon is pretty neat. It's a shit area but at least you can get a nice view on it from atop a huge wall
d704f2 No.16148353
>>16148326
I could go on for days about SotFS
>Hey let's take Dark Souls 2 and re-release it, except it's completely fucked up this time around
>Game now mandates that you find and use Fragrant Brances of Yore because petrified enemies are now all over the place, some of them even blocking bonfires
>Weapons are now made of glass because 60FPS fucks with durability
>Enemy placement now makes no fucking sense whatsoever, feels like someone just threw enemies around the map in the level editor without asking themselves why an Old Knight would be in Drangleic Castle of all places
>Add all of this to the searing vexation that is Iron Passage and Frigid Outskirts
I do wish DaS3 kept bonfire ascetics, power stance, and not tying pyromancy to fucking Faith though.
ee8986 No.16148357
This minigame pissed me off so much, I gave up on beating it a long time ago. Bullet hell Zelda is cheap as fucking hell.
If you outlast the clock, you unlock a secret big cucco that gives out hearts. It also makes a cameo in the ending credits. I loved Link Between Worlds but it pains me to know I never 100%ed it. Every time I walk past that cucco stable, I'm reminded at how utter bullshit this minigame was.
0011e2 No.16148364
>>16148357
I came close to beating that game, then I was immediately and inexplicably disgusted by it to the point where I just deleted it and didn't care to fuck with it anymore. It's a shitty copy of Link to the Past full of retard-friendly hints to beat everything. I seem to be abandoning more games lately, without failing at them. I just get tired of playing and never go back.
d704f2 No.16148368
>>16148322
I've definitely learned how to clear the area in short time, but I still dread having to go there every playthrough
>Ah shit, Farron Keep is next, god damn it
>Do I have purple moss? Fuck, I need to get some more purple moss
>Why are half of the items here fucking dung pies?
>Yay, I love being forced to move very slowly
>How come all the enemies are moving like they're frolicking through a Spring meadow and not wallowing in a sludgy sea of poison shit? Why don't the enemies play by the same fucking rules as I do?
>More dung pie
>Fucking made it
474378 No.16148379
>>16148353
I wish shields and parries weren't so horribly nerfed in DaS3, the thing about "startup frames" in DaS2 was bad enough making parries unreliable.
1e3f11 No.16148528
>>16148368
You could always grab some daggers that let you dash through the swamp with its weapon art.
>>16148379
>DS1 and 2
>Look at all this build variety
<DS3
<Hope you like rolling spam and R1 spam with STR or DEX weapons because everything else is literally gimping yourself
4d01bf No.16148544
Etrian Odyssey
6th Stratum - B27F All that lives shall succumb. The pit drops are invisible.
474378 No.16148556
>>16148528
Magic, poise, etc., I don't undestand why Miyasaki had the need for us to play Bloodborne instead of Dark Souls, what was so bad about using everything that is not just the best stunlock?
1103db No.16148558
>>16147525
It's still retarded but you can wipe the foes, heal at the spring and save at the pole (without returning to etria), so you don't neccessarily have to do it all in a single go, but it's easily one of the worst parts in the whole series
7c1123 No.16148570
>>16147125
>"areas that inflict constant miniscule damage are too bullshit"
>"a boss that has a feature of breaking your lock-on is too bullshit and I'm too suicidal to spam dodge when the enemy is clearly going to land on me"
>losing your cool because of vidya pressure and stress
That boss and its laser shooting variations is called "Amygdala" for a reason. It keeps the inexperienced players in distress and fear exactly with features like grabbing your faggot ass, throwing a tantrum or jumping too high for you to see.
Also the real bullshit is its chalice dungeon version. It can one hit kill you with its "basic" attacks if you are unlucky, bad at dodging or you haven't invested a shit ton of levels into your HP. Makes everything especially awkward if you get summoned to help but you get killed too soon.
1e3f11 No.16148631
>>16148556
Because DS3 was switched to the Bloodborne engine about halfway through development, so they cobbled together a system that is just Bloodborne with shields (that do shit). Also because of PvP fags crying about balance, everything has to be a duel of rolling and STR weapons. Lastly, meme kiddies spouting that poise/tank builds or magic builds or whatever else was casual and for scrubs, whereas real pros use the black knight weapons with full STR and destroy bosses in about 8 attacks.
b2181f No.16148693
>>16148528
>2
you can say what you like about it, but there's no denying the amount of build variety in the game was absurd
8ab873 No.16149081
A few other anons mentioned EO so here it is the bane of 3
>Remove the radar so people don't know where the fuck they are
>Make a maze of one way passages that loop around to each other
>Put tiles on the entrances to these passages, so that when the player steps on them they get spun around, not knowing where the fuck they are
The FOEs on this floor also range from being pathetically weak that you can kill them when you first encounter them, to instantly petrifying your entire party, which in this game causes a game over because the debuff is permanent
1e3f11 No.16149151
>>16149061
PvP is the cancer that killed Souls.
15b308 No.16149178
>>16147125
>WAAAH I TOOK DAMAGE MIYAZAKI IS MEAN WAAAH
Are you shitting me? It's a puzzle you autistic fuck. The puzzle is getting the right item to resist the status effect. It is even more lenient than other puzzle mechanics, like needing a key to unlock a door in Resident Evil, because if you are clever/stubborn enough there is usually a way to get the items in question without the "key" (purple moss clump or fire resistance bugs). There are plenty of legitimate things to bitch about in Souls games like awful hitboxes but this is probably the dumbest complaint I've seen.
eb346b No.16149196
>>16149151
Any game that doesn't have separate PVP and PVE balancing is a two sided garbage fire of supreme turboautistes blaming each other for everything wrong with the game.
59722a No.16149323
Any level that is like the Indiana Jones boulder escape. Where the character is running toward the screen and you can't actually see where your going.
21684f No.16149475
LEL NAH NIGGA, YOU GOTTA KNOW HOW TO SWIM
pure bullshit having to get your lung capacity up
also the target practice mission with phil cassidy in vc
74ef88 No.16149551
>>16148376
I actually had to record the pattern on the final one of these with my camera in order to beat it, I got so tired of failing.
bc1316 No.16149563
>>16148544
At least in Brandish: The Dark Revenant you could drop iron balls to check if there's a pit just in front of you, even then it's still the worst part of the game in normal mode.
The real worst parts of the game are any of the sections with the rolling balls in Dela's mode.
81f49c No.16149565
>>16149448
The only bullshit part of this thing is her inflated HP pool, every attack she has is completely trivial to dodge
830bd0 No.16149589
>>16149565
imagine being 10 years old and being shit at timing and then dying to shrowser afterwards without saving
891d9d No.16149687
>>16148544
It's telegraphed though, the floor.. either above or below I forget which, has damage tiles on all the same spots as the pits
891d9d No.16149751
>>16149734
Must've either gotten it confused with the much better remake, or when they reused it in one of the other games. Still not that bad compared to older wizardries
c0d500 No.16149796
>>16147125
>Amygdala is actually a good boss
She has the potential to be a good boss but she's so fucking big that there's no real normal strategy to fight her on the ground.
4131eb No.16149837
>>16148322
Isn't this basically true for everywhere in 3? With the world design being a glorified hallway, there's no reason to explore.
>>16148693
>tfw you'll never again be able to roll a d6 for damage type, a d20 for weapon type, and make a functional pvp and pve build
c54e63 No.16149875
b6c97a No.16150940
>>16147827
>darkbeast paarl
I can understand the others, but this guy is super easy, just stand underneath him. I've only died once to him,and on my first try, because my cat kept rubbing on the controller.
ba52ee No.16150949
>>16148353
>Frigid Outskirts
I thought I had wiped that experience from the depths of my mind.
d704f2 No.16151022
>>16150940
It's really awkward fighting him. Lock on is a death sentence and he prances about so fast that most of the fight is just tracking him manually and sprinting towards him while avoiding his electric boogaloo bullshit. Most of the big bosses in those games were incredibly awkward to fight
1a853d No.16151085
>>16147125
>Spend 20 minutes doing the main objectives
>Spend 2 hours bunny hopping around the map looking for an unreasonable amount of gold
ea83ee No.16151095
Card City Nights. I got it for free from a friend, and it was a cute little time waster for a few hours, but holy fuck the last boss is such a goddamn whore.
>enjoy digital card games
>try this out, got it for free anyway
>actually a lot of fun
>colorful, upbeat, and casual card game to fuck around with
>only lose two or three times here or there, never really get stuck anywhere
<card limit of 5 of any common, 3 of any uncommon, 1 of any rare, and 1 total legendary card (out of 8 in the game) per deck
>get to final boss
>literally has a deck full of nothing but multiple copies of all the best rare cards and has one of every legendary
>matches are absurdly difficult, to the point of wanting to throw computer out of a window
>lose 40 times, using multiple decks and different permutations
>finally look that shit up and find out there's pretty much one specific deck that actually works effectively
>still lose three times with that deck before winning
>go to the post-game content and fight against decks with beta cards
>beat them all in a single attempt
The game is fun, but whoever thought that final boss was okay needs to be shot. That one fight ruined my entire experience with that game. I was considering Card City Nights 2, but fuck that.
276ab5 No.16151128
>>16149475
Needing to be skinny for the jetpack was funny.
e3be53 No.16151181
>>16148301
I've only had two issues with the world / group events in GW2:
>boss attacks are insta-kills if they hit you, but the screen is so busy with bullshit you can't see the AOE boundaries
>In PoF, the bounties can get impossible combinations of boss perks that make them unkillable
Had a fucking bounty as part of an Ascended Weapon hunt on my Deadeye, and he got the 'You can't hit me at range' and 'you take static damage unless you run into these nearby orbs' shit. Twenty people got their shit slapped for fifteen minutes.
Oh, and FFS anon, everything about HoT is pure bullshit too.
e6b8d2 No.16151190
Dwarf Fortress:
>break into underground cave that spans 52 z levels
>mushroom trees in there save my woodless ass
>few crawlies make some interesting dinners for my stupidly rich (selling barrels of syrup) dorfs
>very quiet for a few years
>the fearsome forgotten beast Rikkul Smasran has come!
>oh shi- ah he's made of salt
>the forgotten beast Ju'lKilar Matob has arrived now you shall know the meaning of pain
>oh fu- heh she's made of ice
>hope they meet up
>a parade of faggot-tier forgotten beasts rock up and get their asses kicked
>moth man, promptly rekt
>locust kid, ded his legs came off
>monitor woman, got her ankle sliced on the first hit and permanently hits the deck
>I run this bitch
>The Forgotten Beast Gragnax has come
>yeah yeah what's this faggot then?
>winged, humanoid, emaciated, ravenous
>made of steel
>OH FUCK
>30 man militia woken up
>horror/hurry to get them appropriate weapons
>some have to just be meat shields with iron in their mitts
>thank fuck they mostly have armour
>they pile into the gloom and fight Graggy on a cliff-side for three fucking months straight
>a painful plodding procession of metal doors are made/dragged into place to slow it down long enough to build a GTFO wall
>meanwhile 11 militia die
>4 are badly injured losing limbs or extremities and having to retire after this
>26 are hospitalised rotating in and out of combat as they're patched up
>hospital has to be rebuilt a second time to accommodate them
>some dumb nigger bites the steel guy, in the head
>all militia members are supremely angry and liable to lose their shit at any moment
>this includes a grandson on the youngsters rota and his grandma on the seniors patrol
>now they fight side by side, denture and press-on nail
>spoiler granny dies
>some fighters taken out of combat lose their shit on the way back up to the fort for the ones who retain their sanity to deal with on top of their already harrowing experience
>Gragnax the utter bastard, suffers about 70 dents, loses a finger and FINALLY gets a torn wing
>thankfully the last injury grounds him and a brave soul kicked him in the head and off the ledge he went
After some dicey body recovery missions I sealed the place up for some reprieve, I was sweating bullets throughout, my operation up top was idyllic, running like a well oiled machine and that one alloyed fucker threatened to ruin it from the asshole up.
On the downside I lost half my army and deeply traumatised about another third of it, on the plus side everyone got lord levels of training beating his metallic ass for 93 days straight, by the end my doctors were fucking wizards capable of patching any mess up. The 4 guys who lost limbs or hands/feet haunted me whenever I stumbled on them afterwards, a one armed guy etched the walls in the new hospital wing with typically surreal half joyous half mad art depicting the eterno fight, and a dorfett who lost a foot later became a very capable if a bit slow bone doctor.
ee5d1f No.16151248
Prepare to face the wrath of my BULLSHIT-SCORPIONS! Fuck these fucking faggots and fuck Liquid Snake for making them. They deal incredible amounts of damage that bypass any type of armor except Elite Riot Gear but by the time you get that, you have no reason to return to Big MT. They have sponge levels of health and armor making the K9 and other peashitters they hand out useless. They explode on death at the worst times such as when you're in a hallway standing on a pile of their robo-corpses or during looting them, waiting for you to grab their precious sensor modules. They sit around in groups up to 7 or 8, all varying in sizes which affects their health, damage and speed. At least you don't have to fight the fuckhueg one at the end of the DLC and can bypass it completely.
ee5d1f No.16151321
>>16151302
Even with the Proton Axe I was getting my ass handed to me. I never level melee when I run a gun/energy weapons build so I end up fucked in Old World Blues for the first half until I get a decent ranged weapon like Christine's Sniper or the multiplas.
2643a2 No.16151349
<this dude has clearly not fought cursed Amy
5588b3 No.16151362
>>16148376
Gonna need you to delete this, sir
I was gonna post it if you weren't
d3b277 No.16151387
>>16147125
Why did people hate Farron Keep so much? Poison does basically nothing in ds3.
d3b277 No.16151391
>>16151321
>never level melee
Lmao you deserve every second of pain you ever endured in that game, melee makes the game fucking trivial
ee5d1f No.16151399
>>16151391
Say that to my scoped hunting rifle, faggot. That's literally all you need. Close quarters, long range, whatever your heart desires. Hip fire in those hallways and pop heads like watermelons from a mile away. Fuck your dinky knives and fire axes.
91ca1a No.16151408
>>16151399
>not punching everyone you see
>not shooting grenades instead of shooting lead
lmao
ee5d1f No.16151423
>>16151408
>punching people
<not reverse pickpocketing ten tons of C4 on them
>shooting grenades
<not hailing artillery on faggots like it's the first World War
It's like you don't like turning legionaries into red paste.
d3b277 No.16151451
>>16151399
Clearly it isn't all you need if you're getting rekt by the weakest enemies in any dlc ever
d3b277 No.16151455
>>16151423
>turning legionnaires into red paste
Surely you meant NCR "soldiers"
ee5d1f No.16151487
>>16151451
Weakest enemies are White Legs. It's insulting the game considers them a threat.
>>16151455
>he's a legionfag
You turn NCR into cash-cows you troglodyte. Now go run back to Maximus, I'm sure his cock is longing for your asshole right about now.
d3b277 No.16151501
ee5d1f No.16151514
>>16151501
>he sided with buttflusterd LARPing homos
d3b277 No.16151531
>>16151514
>he sided with a 250 year old dude with some robots so he could live in a hotel in a shithole
>he doesn't wanna burn everything to the ground and kill everybody
eb346b No.16151544
>>16151181
HoT becomes a lot less bullshit when you get the mounts from the second expac so you can just skip the six gotrillion bullshit deathraptors and vietcong tree snipers.
>>16151531
>he doesn't want to kill everyone in a position of power and let the drunk autists in Vegas sort themselves out
d3b277 No.16151559
>>16151544
>implying House's bot army could actually defeat the NCR or the Legion in reality
>implying house ending does anything but delay the inevitable so that degenerates can continue being degenerate for the sake of degeneracy and muh ancapistan
eb346b No.16151561
>>16151559
I'm talking about the No Gods No Masters ending
d3b277 No.16151569
>>16151561
Yeah, ancapistan, it's literally the same thing except with house out of the picture
b44b61 No.16151586
>>16147302
I don't think I've ever enjoyed a single sewer level. I don't know what it is with sewers but developers just can't make a good sewer level.
605ccc No.16151597
>>16151586
I genuinely enjoyed this one. It was the only level that featured a "water" gimmick, sure, but the challenge and general layout was in line with everything else in the game.
Along with the (probably unintentional) horror of everything else in the game
0011e2 No.16151666
>>16149081
I can never play this simply because of the FOE flash video searing my mind with LVL DOWN LVL DOWN F O E. SHINDEIRU SHINDEIRU F O E.
>>16151586
Blaster Master's sewer level isn't bad, but really, it's only decoration, as the water in it is treated like open space.
8b37bb No.16151669
>>16151597
I mean the fact that you have unlimited Jetpack when underwater as a means of swimming helped allot to make the level cool.
that way it felt like a level that was experimenting more with the jetpack gameplay you were already a custom too, and not just adding some kind of new gimmick swimming gameplay
891bd1 No.16151782
Yain Garuga, fuck that thing
276ab5 No.16151783
>>16151586
The sewer level in Mirrors Edge is pretty, but it also has two hideously long loading doors one after another.
e18cd2 No.16151812
Last hidden section of Road to Gehenna to rescue the admin and get the best ending was pretty bullshitty
And I fucking LOVED every second of it.
3d3615 No.16151819
>>16147188
>Sewer levels
agreed. Many people feel the river is bullshit, and it can be if you don't know the shortcut, but webm 1 related always felt worse to me:
>buttons with timers
>giant wheel that kills you until it makes a specific click noise
>instant death falls
>hardest to avoid rex encounter
>so many climbing chains that Grant may or may not choose to grab and fall to his death
>raptor isn't much better due to low ceilings and near invisible platforms
And lets not forgets Grants level inside the volcano.
>a level where you have to make downward progression
>grant grunts when he falls and is an indication he'll get hurt if you fall too far
>so naturally there are shitloads of blind drops you have to make
>several are bottomless pits
god damn
3d3615 No.16151826
>fighting games
>creators are lazy with the AI
>instead of making the fighters use more complex combos as the difficulty go up, it instead perfect play reads your inputs and counters anything you do before your character can fucking move
>the only way you have a chance of doing anything is finding an AI loophole
I hate this arcade money munching tier shit
3d3615 No.16151882
>>16151848
>Goro
>he has nearly no knockback and every attack of his wrecks your shit
>his chest pound throw just removes most of your health
>Kintaro
>Fireballs are shitloads faster and he can spam them
>the telestomp
>if you hit him and he blocked it, he's throwing your ass
>Motaro
>"hey, what if we took all the shit parts of those previous bosses and put them together?"
>long ass grab
>powerful energy shot
>teleports
>long ass trip
>immune to projectiles on top of it all
I played MK1 and 2 a lot but never had 3, so I didn't know how ass Motaro was until I got trilogy.
d704f2 No.16153383
>>16150949
>Can't see shit because blizzard
>Also can't see shit because supernova sun burning cataracts into your eyes and giving you retinal syphilis
>Map is just a huge fucking empty space with a few ruins scattered about that you can only see during the brief breaks in the storm
>Get gangbanged by Santa's reindeer that won't stop spawning
>Good luck trying to find your souls if you happen to die in this bukkake facial simulator
>Finally make your way through because you're a fucking masochist
>Boss is just Nigger Ava x2
>There isn't even any treasure after the boss, so they were just out there guarding nothing
Don't get me started on Iron Passage. That level is just a giant Fuck You to the player.
8e7bdf No.16153402
>>16151826
>final boss just turns invisible and fills the screen with bullets
94cecf No.16153514
dark souls was artificial difficulty shit for people who like wasting time on repeating leves and are too bad to be able to finish actual hard game like castlevanias or devil may cry
073b42 No.16153886
>>16151882
You forgot
>Reflects your fucking projectiles
THATS WAY WORSE THAN SIMPLE IMMUNITY
He can also knock you back so far you end up off camera and can't see what manner of bullshit he's doing when he teleports behind you
be4e67 No.16153950
>>16153383
>There isn't even any treasure after the boss
nigga the soul you get makes one of the sexiest greatswords in the series
Which I have never bothered getting legit and never will get legit because fuuuuuck that
0525bd No.16154099
>>16153950
Calling everyone who played DS II here: Did any of you beat Frigid Outskirts?
I must have replayed the game 4 times and never did it because the area is so fucking bad.
891d9d No.16154134
>>16154099
It's not that bad once you do it once, the double fight at the end is annoying, but it's incredibly easy just to do a straight dash and avoid every enemy
4131eb No.16154163
>>16154099
I've replayed the game at least 140 times and never have. I used cheat engine to disable the snowstorm and beat it once that way though.
a455c4 No.16154169
>>16147368
I don't remember it being that bad, but I was playing with my younger brother. I was more bothered by the AI players getting stuck + bad pathfinding.
>>16147606
>>16151597
TBH I don't hate a single level in the whole game. The gladiator sucks at higher difficulties but isn't unbearable.
>>16151819
I actually had an easier time with grant's than the raptor's, lots of tricky jumps. Shit, when I first played I couldn't even get out of the first room. 100% with you on the volcano however.
Anyway, the only thing that irked me about perfect dark was during the attack ship mission, elvis would get bigass head in my way and promptly die.
7d778f No.16154174
>>16154099
I never beat any of the coop areas. I really banged my head over Iron Passage, but when I reached blue smelter I realized it was just completely overdoing the difficulty and phoning it in at the same time and just wrote all of this off as barely legit content for coop purposes. Frigid Outskirts is the only one I never seriously attempted though. It never even pretended to be interesting.
ee5d1f No.16154177
>>16154099
I fucking hated it. I got towards the end and felt nothing but emptiness as the level drained all of my soul along with my effigy stock. Getting kicked in the nuts is more fun.
eb776b No.16154276
>>16154099
I did the DLC but I completely skipped frigid outskirts I believe, cant remember anything of it and I did kill the crown boss. I must have missed it
d704f2 No.16154325
>>16154177
Was that an early playthrough? I'm on NG+8 in DaSII and I never have to use human effigies anymore because I have like 20+ life rings
1e3f11 No.16154398
>>16154099
Only area of the entire Souls and Bloodborne (discounting Chalice dungeons) games I haven't done. Its fucking terrible and deserves to be skipped.
0030bf No.16154433
>>16147125
DURIEL… holy feeze in a confined area? Mages btfo.
ca3d77 No.16154560
>>16154099
I got to the double tigers quite a few times and cleaned up all the stuff in the area, but that's all. I just didn't have the willpower at the time to force myself through and I don't revisit DS2 often, has to have been years now. It is not fun to feel like your character is moving through mud at all times when enemies are often zippy, fast-turning bastards with lodsepoise that often need to be fought with bland caution.
Even less so when they are flying lightning dragodeer that as far as I know don't despawn if you run from them, have a dozen or more giant spawning radiuses, and need to be killed ten times each to clear the way for an at best four minute walk to a recycled double boss. Even if the reward is a QUAL build straight-great hybrid rapesword.
3d3615 No.16154620
>>16153886
Yeah I forgot. On a similar note
>NEVER falls over
>combos do less damage if you repeat them
>has one hell of a reach
>his favorite move is a quaint little jab with his wrecking ball that moves him closer but also knocks your character stupid
>projectiles hit him but do chip damage at best and he doesn't react
>heaven help you if he decides he's had enough of your shit and wants you dead now
Yet despite all this I thought he was pretty fucking cool and have wanted him to show up with a proper moveset
c9b3ca No.16154734
>>16154433
Duriel fucks up EVERYONE. At that point in the game melee characters except MAYBE Paladins will get their shit wrecked. He hits hard which stun locks you, he hits fast which stun locks you frequently, he stuns because why not, and he's accurate as fuck. And the Holy Freeze makes your stun recovery animation take longer.
c9b3ca No.16154741
>>16154734
Oh hell, that's not even counting the early days (as in first few years) where the room lagged so bad on entry that you were almost guaranteed to die before you actually loaded in.
1b0fa7 No.16154771
>>16154433
>swapping meat for toast
needless carb intake, veggienerds are insane
1b0fa7 No.16154779
not necessarily "bullshit" design but I do find dream sequences unenjoyable, especially the one in max payne. I know they were going for a creepy vibe with the echoing sound effects and distant baby crying but it's something I personally find really annoyin'
53eda6 No.16155340
Remember when he'd attack you while you were loading so you'd just load to your own death screen?
d704f2 No.16155460
Didn't have any problem actually fighting either of them, but I just hate this mixed messaging, self-contradicting bullshit
>Smelty D has flames constantly dealing proximity damage to the player
>Hemoglobin famished monster has proximity effect that poisons you just from being near him
>Implies that close range fighting is the wrong way to go about these phases
>Range does jack shit to either of them
Which fucking is it? Range or up close? Don't signal one if it's not really the fucking case.
ca3d77 No.16155555
>>16155460
You could say that it's by design. The devs want the player to instinctually get chickenshit over these point defense measures and back off, resulting in you getting flattened by some long reaching wombo attack. Giant sword smashes or screeching leaps/swing spam respectively. Alternatively, the player figures out the dodging rhythm early, but is overconfident, underestimates the PBAOE attacks, and gets pasted by a flame or poison explosion for their greed. Then you figure out, 'oh, the key is to pace myself, get in and get out before my melting HP becomes a problem.'
ddf21e No.16155568
>>16155555 (Five5s checked)
Alternatively, the approach to either is full of the hazards that each employ, so FROM might expect you to have learned a way to mitigate either by the time you get there.
48bf76 No.16155597
>>16155460
The most annoying thing about smelter wasn't even the boss itself, but dealing with all the shit before it. Losing out on healing early turns the fight into a dps check
ecefe2 No.16158293
>>16147368
Nope. The problem is actually you. Next time level up properly. Just powering up the weapons alone would have netted the time needed to not be a pasty smear on the forest floor.
ecefe2 No.16158342
>>16147525
>Etrian Odyssey 1 - Sandy Barrens
No you don't. I dived back into that Stratum repeatedly. Hell, you need multiple trips because there's no way you're plowing through the high-level FOE gauntlet that leads to the previous stratum.
The story-driven content can be broken up and you don't even need to push it. Floor 3 (or 4—it's been a while) needs a direct encounter with the wild folk boss before they flee tot he next floor, and you run into nothing but those plant folks on that floor until you trigger that event. But that event can be put off until your party's up to snuff (which they already long-since should be if you're exploring and taking bar missions)
By that point in time, I had several high-level items though, because I took on the five-night quest involving the Wyvern and explored the fuck out the previous stratums. You sholdn't have had weak equips by then or a weak party unless you were deliberately min-maxing.
4131eb No.16158381
>>16155460
>he's never used ranged poison on smelter demon
Nail him with it during the phase change animations and you'll never have to worry about dodging and attacking at the same time. If you're playing a pyromancer, you can slap him with toxic and poison at the same and the fight's a complete joke. Magic and electric damage work him over pretty well too.
WHY THE FUCK IS A DEMONIC IRON GOLEM WEAK TO POISON WHAT THE FUCK FROM
0525bd No.16158395
>>16158381
I never did a pyro run in DS2, is it any fun? Also Smelter a shit, I only died once to him in all my time playing.
ecefe2 No.16158438
>>16151882
>>16151848
>This shit
>Not SNK's bullshit bosses
Niggas really?
4131eb No.16158452
>>16158395
It's fun until you get to Iron Keep and Brume. All the enemies and bosses there have monstrous fire resist. In Iron Keep you can get away with raw weapons and status effects but by Brume you really need to have invested into another kind of magic or the far more useful option of an actual weapon. Pyromancy works better as a supplement than a main damage source anyway. Either by a mage specialized in a different kind of magic to get full damage out of pyromancy or as a no-investment fallback for a melee character.
If you want real fun, go 60 int 60 fai and play pokemon with enemy weaknesses. Remember that blinding bolt and heavenly thunder are actually really fucking damaging and that lightning spear gets an unexplainable massive scaling boost above 30 faith.
733398 No.16158577
I honestly didn't like most of the chicken platformer, but this was not only frustrating but stupidly difficult. Nothing in the game was as frustrating as this, nor in this one or the original. Fuck the pollo platforming.
8e7bdf No.16158591
>>16154771
>veggienerds are insane
Look up the Began Art Book. It's like dietary webcomic written by Dan Brown.
d4f8b0 No.16158643
>>16154771
>veggienerds are insane
No, they are suffering from malnourishment induced delusions.
72eeb0 No.16159434
Sister Friede. Everything else in the Dark Souls series is easy by comparison. The fight has three stages and you have to beat them all in a row every time. It doesn't help that the fights themselves are hard as hell especially phase three where she does ridiculous damage and will combo you to death in seconds. In order to learn her attack pattern on this stage, you will have to start all over from the beginning each time if you make a single mistake.
0eb353 No.16159485
>>16159434
>Sister Friede
<Not Midir
Faggot
0525bd No.16159514
>>16159434
First phase is piss easy if you've any patience and just wait for backstab opportunities and safe damage times or if you've got a heavy poise damage weapon like the FUGS bait her into a heavy charged attack. I swear to God seeing her fall onto her ass is the most satisfying moments I've had in the game, second phase depends on how much DPS you can put out and third phase is the first phase only with attacks which are actually kind of hard to avoid. The fight is too long though, I'll agree on that.
>>16159485
Now fuck you dragon of huge damage can actually be a pain in the ass if you haven't leveled vitality that much.
79b5d8 No.16159531
>>16159514
>>16159485
The one thing I really hate about Midir is when he gets into a loop of roasting his own crotch to force you to run away. For pretty much everything else he's like a Punch-Out boxer. He hits stupidly hard, but almost all of his attacks leave you with a window to hit back if you just dodge in the right direction.
032a52 No.16159536
That fucking amoeba level from Metro 2033. Chews up all your ammo while being tedious, just like the turret section from FEAR.
72eeb0 No.16159543
>>16159485
>>16159514
I use the demonslayer greataxe and her stage three practically leaves no openings. You will have to dodge her attacks for ages just to get a single opening to attack and she has a shit ton of HP so the fight drags on forever. I can't even do the summon because I killed the demon twins.
e0fd3c No.16159548
>>16149081
Removing the auto-loaction in 3 was the best part of the game. The entire series should have had the auto-location removed for the entire game.
1623d5 No.16159618
>>16147827
From my experience Vicar Amelia and Shadows of Yharnam were the only bosses from the main game I'd put under bull shit. Vicar Amelia has a ton of health and she doesn't give very long windows to counter attack. She also heals, and even if you use anti heal items she still gets back a good amount of health at the start of the move. The shadows are really the kings of bullshit though. Multiple enemies at one time has never really suited the souls style very well, and they're pretty bad about abusing that. The first phase isn't too bad, but when you get one to half health and they transform the fight is just awful. If you didn't manage to kill one during their transformation, then you're completely fucked. Even if there are only 2 alive, getting chip damage in without getting hit is a real challenge. They tend to stick together, and the quick attack with their stretchy arms can be really bad. When you kill 2 the fuck you snake comes out of nowhere to end the fight because things were going too well for you. Amelia is basically the bullshit defense boss and snakes are the bullshit offense boss. If your offensive and defensive stats aren't good both of those bosses will make you suffer, and they're definitely the hardest ones to kill as a base level waste of skin in the ng+s.
>>16151022
The one outside of the chalice dungeons isn't hard at all if you know what you're doing. Each of his legs has a health pool, and when you deplete the pool for a leg he falls on the ground and sits there for a while. You can damage another leg while he is stunned, and the health is low enough that you should be able to break it entirely with an appropriate weapon. You end up getting an obscenely long period of time to just beat on him if you chain break all four legs. Beast pellets work insanely well on him due to that, and he should be pretty much dead by the time he finally gets up if you do it right. The enhanced health pool on the chalice dungeon version makes the fight a lot harder, but he still isn't quite as bad as abhorrent beast or some of the others.
70f157 No.16159902
0269ad No.16160052
>>16147525
Ha! And now this. "All that lives shall succumb". Truly a fitting name for this shit map.
c0d500 No.16160057
>>16151248
The DLCs are all fucked anyway because of they level scale the enemies which they don't do in the main game.
So you're actually fucking yourself over by doing the DLCs when you're late game than if you went into them early.
c0d500 No.16160066
>>16155460
As someone who died a hundred million times to BSB I can say that she's actually a much easier boss once you've learned her parry animations. You can basically destroy her in a minute with some well timed parries and never have to deal with any poison damage.
I think that's what they were going for with the boss trying to tell players that you can't just sit around and win by attrition like some autistis do for dark souls bosses.
1e3f11 No.16160076
>>16159434
I hate Friede too. Awesome visuals and music, but it plays out so damn annoying.
>>16159485
Midir is leagues better than Friede. The lore for him is good and his music is among the best tracks in Souls.
c25bcd No.16160283
>>16147606
This boss traumatized me as a child and possibly gave me deep water phobia.
It's impressive how just a shitty fog can do so much for scary game areas.
d3d207 No.16160382
ITT: whiny zoomer faggots who suck a vidya.
8e7bdf No.16160933
>>16160382
Sage isn't a downvote.
9e0c1e No.16160939
>>16160880
Has anyone 1CC'd this piece of shit?
cff24b No.16160944
>>16154099
Yeah I beat it a handful of times and I have to at least get to the end of it on every character I make so I can grab the Ring of the Living. I have a path mapped out and a technique for running there as quickly as I could.
I fucking love DS3 for making the "summon looks like a host" ring so much easier to get.
f17210 No.16160976
>>16155555
I love using this.
d704f2 No.16160998
>>16159434
Bloodborne had this right. Procedural bosses didn't get entirely new health bars. That's really what I hate about DaSIII, just the lazy refilling of the boss's health
>>16159618
The true bullshit with Shadows of Yharnam is their long as fuck snake attack with the range of a howitzer that clips through all the objects in the arena and hits you. Always kill the katana shadow first, then the candle shadow, then the pyro bitch shadow.
>>16159485
>mfw actually had an easier time with Midir than Sister Friede
Here's what you do, my man.
>jump down
>watch him pose for a bit
>run as far away as you can when he does his hissy fit 'Fuck everything' combo attack, but start closing in as the attack comes to an end
>do not lock on, ever
>he'll have just a few moments of rest and that's where you're supposed to get some hits on his head
>back away after you get some hits in and keep maintaining your distance during all of his attacks, paying close attention to what he's about to do
>don't bother trying to get a hit in during his headbutt lunge attack, just roll to the side
>he has that one attack where he breathes fire, cuts it short, and then breathes out bigger flames
>keep your distance as usual, but start closing in as that second flame attack comes around, get some hits on his head, you can get 2 or 3 pretty safely
>if at any point you fuck up and he gets really close to you, run in a diagonal directions towards his tail (meaning you run through the space between his tail and foot) and make distance
>stay the fuck away from that laser attack
>roll to the side for that attack where he stands, roars, and tries to bite you in half
>not too sure about the fire fly-by, just do your best
<phase 2
>most of his attacks are the same, but it seems like he does the hissy fit attack more often if you get too far from him
>when he's starting up that laser attack where he stands and blasts everything in the room, close in during the charge up, dodge, and try to get behind his feet
>he takes a huge rest after that, so get as many hits in as possible
>spam roll to avoid the purple shit that rises out from the ground
>once you get to the last 1/5th of his health, you should be able to break his poise and open him up for a front-stab
>last sliver of health, there's actually a chance for a second front-stab so stick close and take it
>fight is over, ezpz
8e7bdf No.16161003
>>16160996
>/intl/ can't into context clues
75e2b6 No.16161007
>>16154099
Nope, beat everything else but fuck that, I play vidya to have fun. Even in coop it must be plain annoying.
Speaking of bullshit, there's this nigger. I'm bad at fighting games, so I had quite a lot of trouble. Regenerates health, hits like a truck, helpers, bounces around the stage all the time, and if you take too long he pulls an Indiana Jones (gun to the face) on you.
d704f2 No.16161008
>>16160996
There's no need to keep tying the full name if you already know what the subject is and there's an abbreviation for it, you shit-eating foreigner. There are many languages where you don't have to keep referring to the subject's proper name when the subject has already been established
06dfb7 No.16161053
>>16148326
The only bad part in SOTFS was the first half of Iron Keep, everything else you need to git gud.
761183 No.16161095
>>16153514
Dark souls never fails to make people butthurt.
e3fd37 No.16161183
>>16161008
>>16161003
Mods deleting posts again, worse than cuckchan on here now.
06372b No.16161224
Whenever a goddamn, shit eating, forced stealth section is introduced I inmediately sigh and prepare myself for some extended bullshit. Topical example: Sherry's section in REmake 2. At the risk of getting accused of being a shill, I quite enjoyed REmake 2. It has its fair share of problems, but it didn't sour the experience for me.
But then, I arrive at Sherry's section in the generic creepy orphanage were you need to hide from Chief Irons. Boy oh boy do I love memorizing an overlong, boring sequence of animation cues in order to progress with my fucking videogame. But hey maybe if you're quick you could lose him once he spots you, right? Like fuck you could. He dashes towards you faster than Birkin or the Tyrant ever do, triggering a game over so you can enjoy this section again.
What's the purpose of this? Breaking up the action? That's like saying that you're eating your fish and chips too quickly, so eat a few slices of plague rat, so you can break up your lunch. It's retarded. At least Ada's segment is slightly more bearable since it builds from existing mechanics (not that it isn't dogshit but it's more bearable than
Sherry's).
>>16154734
Not only that, auras aren't affected by resistances, so even if you're high level and have shit like high cold resistance (or inmunity) or Cannot Be Frozen, it matters jack shit. Enjoy getting frozen and wishing your PC had a higher attack speed. This is one of the reasons I invariably go with Burts of Speed with Assassins.
>>16159485
Midir is the only boss in DS3 I refuse to fight. Not because he's hard, but because he's the sloggiest fucking thing in the series. I rather go through Shrine of Amana 5 times in a row than fight Midir.
>hey you know whats fun fucking dragons
>but lets make this a damage sponge as series tradition for giant dragons
>not only that but lets make the fight in a huge ass open area
>congrat you dodged his almost 1 hit kill attacks
>now run your bitch ass a few hundred kilometers in order to slap him twice
>oh he started another attack better run another couple of hundred of kilometers lol hope you brought your helicopter that doesnt exist
>after growing old and decrepit get him to a few hits
>fail to dodge his fuck off I win laser
>Continue?
Fuck no. At least Friede is fast to fight.
>>16160998
>not too sure about the fire fly-by, just do your best
3c2fc4 No.16161254
>>16161183
No one is keeping you here, anon
Also
>paid accounts mandatory
vs
<Mod actually cares about board quality
Are you just prentending to be a retard?
247f85 No.16161339
>>16154099
Currently playing DS2's DLCs and haven't really attempted this yet. Hell, most of the bosses in the DLCs are assholes
06dfb7 No.16161590
>>16154099
I tried the first time but never went there afterwards.
d0d33b No.16161595
>>16154099
I've beaten it but with help. I can solo the whole game except for the Challenge Areas. Fuck that shit with a rake.
>>16160998
>not too sure about the fire fly-by, just do your best
Run to the left.
I was stuck on Midir for hours in my first attempt (in my defense, it was NG+3) but eventually learned how to fight. He's not hard just absurdly tedious because you'll be spending most of the time running around the area. Golden rule is basically to always stay in front of him at mid-range to bait his melee attacks or fire breath and also null his tail whip. Basically - only attack the head. If you summon help and they don't know this, you're fucked because they'll run around him, peck his legs and GIANT TAIL OUT OF FUCKIN' NOWHERE will kill everyone.
Alternatively, if you have a character with some INT, just equip the Zyklon B spell and gas that faggot to death.
Anyway, pic related is my nemesis. For me, it's possibly the hardest boss in the extended series. Always take ages to beat him and I feel like I never learned a damn thing. He's got more moves than a Virtua Fighter character, everything hits for at least 80% HP if it doesn't outright kill you, lingering hitboxes give cover to what would be big openings and almost everything he does has been mathematically perfected to roll catch your ass.
8e7bdf No.16162271
Remember to report and filter /intl/
d704f2 No.16162416
I don't even understand. Are you mad because you can't English?
640984 No.16162717
The Silenced Cathedral in Soul Reaver. A multitiered huge fucking labyrinth with a shitton of backtracking, pain-in-the-ass spider vampires popping on you out of nowhere, and a bullshit boss.
890e1d No.16162850
>>16162261
>>16162277
>newfag calling others newfags
>Do I fit in yet guise?: the post
Some worthless shitpost getting deleted somehow makes this place worse than a website with paid accounts and much heavier censorship, sure thing cuckchan.
>reddit spacing
You clearly don't know what actual reddit spacing looks like.
1f3d7b No.16166108
1f3d7b No.16166198
>>16154099
I cheated on a Rebug-flashed console and gave myself a level max character with MAX souls to buy shit with as well.
after platinum on DeS & DS1 I really don't have the time anymore to grind another souls game
I still have yet to pick the game up again and beat it for the first time.
I think I had just got to undead crypt first time…..I haven't even bother.
I'd rather play DS1/Fallout3/FalloutNV/Brutal Legend/DeadSpace
0269ad No.16168569
Since I'm finishing Etrian Odyssey, let me mention this fuck (and his two brothers). THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT THEM IS BY HAVING THE SPECIFIC ANTI-ELEMENT SKILL (anti-volt, anti-cold or anti-fire at level 5). Otherwise, it's full party wipe by the dragon's elemental attack and there is nothing you can do. On the other hand, anti-element skills prevent the damage COMPLETELY and make the bosses about as tough as a Woodfly. Even though there are other anti-element skills and equipment, these do not prevent enough damage to avoid a full party wipe. If you don't have the necessary skills, prepare to rest your Protector (-10 levels) to get them.
0269ad No.16168583
>>16168569
And fuck it, I was almost going to consider EO1 a 9/10 game with just slight hiccups, but this is inexcusable.
9bf95e No.16168649
>overlord 1
>you need to carry that egg to solve "puzzle"
>well, that suck ass, I am glad i only need to do it once
>overlord 2
>60% of the game is about carrying egg/bomb/bag of shit and you the best way to do it is to dismiss army and just go alone with one minion
e08450 No.16168663
>>16168569
Yes, it's stupid, that's why they make the elemental breaths less bullshit by either giving you more tools to deal with them or simply nerfing the shit out of them (in Nexus, even the frailest classes can easily survive a hit) in the sequels. Also I can't remember how it's like in EO1, assuming that you can go before the enemy, head binds or ailments are also options. That said,
>If you don't have the necessary skills, prepare to rest your Protector (-10 levels) to get them.
To be fair, what else are you going to use a protector for? It pretty much goes without saying that you would want skills to negate elemental attacks and the elemental walls can be left at five skill points each. Still, it's bullshit that the only realistically viable option for these bosses is to have a protector. One flaw in EO games is that there's almost always one or more bosses that require a very specific team, undermining the whole party building aspect.
0269ad No.16168723
>>16168663
Well I had a protector for the whole game but just didn't get the elemental skills, because they weren't needed since everything attacked physically (or if they did elemental attacks, then I didn't think they did enough damage to bother with those skills).
In fact I had to rest my protector TWICE. Because at first I leveled up the Provoke skill, thinking it will help me protect my weak troubador and mage, but it didn't seem to do shit? Same with En Garde. I instead got Smite up to level 10 and put more into HP, Def and Cure II. But then in the end I had to dump it all for the anti-element skills.
>One flaw in EO games is that there's almost always one or more bosses that require a very specific team, undermining the whole party building aspect.
Actually I think they've done well until these bullshit elemental party wipe dragons. I mean people say you need Immunize and Defender, but I've had neither of those (didn't play with a guide) and didn't have a problem until these dumbshit elemental dragons.
How's the newer games? I only played EO1 so far.
6a799d No.16189560
>>16147295
>Sandy Petersen's favorite level is Fortress of Mystery
5d20ee No.16189584
>>16150949
Perfect Hatred is a perfect map, what are you trying to do here?
9e848a No.16189811
>>16147299
>Damage frames lasting longer than the actual attack animation (especially with the the giant you fight on the balcony in 3
You fought that thing from up there you fucking retard?
EVERYONE LAUGH AT THIS MORON THAT DIDN'T JUST RUN RIGHT BY
7ae7c3 No.16190060
>>16151349
Hardest boss in the game for me, if you mean the defiled chalice at half HP? Took me about 25 tries until I just went for magic weapon buff and hit and run on the dangling arms until death. Wasn't an enjoyable fight, more like a chore.
>>16151387
>Why did people hate Farron Keep so much?
I haven't heard people hating on it other than being another swamp level. Well, one of the lamps is in a bit of an obscure place so maybe it takes time to find it.
16741d No.16190077
>>16149565
>>16149448
reminder that the non-jap versions double the HP of all bosses for reasons unkown