/v/ - Video Games

Too bad it's wasted on a game that foregoes anything that made Metro what it was and is just generic as you can get.

>>16146499

>Ruined Ruski books pew-pew

Kek

>>16146503

B-but it's better than Anthem, Jump Force and Crackdown 3!

>>16146508

I wouldn't say it loses to any of those. They just belong in the same sludge of unremarkable shit that will sink into oblivion.

games need to stop being so big if they're going to come out this often

i don't have space

>>16146508

>Anthem

It's out already? wew

>Jump Force

I really doubt it's worse than that. I regret wasting time downloading that pile of trash.

>>16146520

They're only going to get bigger.

>>16146520

Its pretty shit, I agree. Between all my vidya, films, TV, anime, books, music, comics, manga, mods, miscellaneous programs and text files, I run out of room very fast. I've had to delete a lot of stuff to make room for others.

>>16146528

are you high? have you seen gameplay of it? or even the gameplay loop if you can call shoot this thing then go shoot this other thing now shoot this guy, now repeat, a loop

>>16146571

I don't know what to play anymore. I'm just bored of everything coming out. I have high hopes for cyberpunk even though i know i shouldn't.

Does cracking Denuvo remove the performance loss caused by having Denuvo?

>>16146706

yes

>>16146706

I'm not sure about performance and Denuvo. FFXV definitely suffered, but I don't think other games were tested. Cracked Denuvo probably is better for performance.

>>16146662

tried this hot new game that everyone is jizzing about called RE2make?

Nah i'm just fucking with you motherfucker, play something old.

>>16146571

is it like the first crackdown?

>>16146717

worse than the second, and shorter.

>>16146706

it's a lie we made up to justify the crackin

>50GB

WHY DON'T THEY REPACK THEIR FUCKING GAMES AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I'M DOWNLOADING WITH 1MB/S JESUS FUCK NOT EVERYONE HAS ULTRA DELUXE GOOD GOYIM FIBER CONNECTION

>>16146724

Did Harada want people to pirate Tekken 7?

How does cracking Denuvo work? I know it's not actually removed, just disabled.

It's nice that Denuvo shit is constantly being cracked. Shame that nothing worth playing is being released though.

>it's a lie

You're a dumb shill monkey

>>16146721

thats so fucking sad. all i want to do is hulk jump around wrecking shit in my bat mobile.

>>16146731

Just move to a third world country, everything else sucks but the internet is lighting fast, when some cunt doesnt cut out and steal your cables that is.

>>16146741

meant for this faggot >>16146724

>>16146741

> what's a joke

>>16146748

>Spoilers are used for joking

That only happens when the pedophiles are talking about their fantasies

what about spoilered "it's a lie we made up" screams sarcasm you fucking retard

>>16146761

>he thinks western internet isn't dogshit unless you pay up $100 per month

>>16146761

whatever, even hobos have better internet than you, think about that backwards jump into sweet release and fuck off.

>>16146743

i mean try it, don't just take my word for it, i didn't like it, but maybe there's a speedrun already you can skim through

>>16146769

>burger thinks rest of the world is as shit as his country

>>16146724

untrue, most cracks are in reality just bypasses to denuvo, they still use the denuvo protected exe and thus still run denuvo.

This means that cracked denuvo games will still have performance issues.

>>16146830

Wrong. Bypasses are something else entirely. A bypass is something like when Doom 2016 got bypassed by Voksi by using a Steam exploit, without Voksi having had to even touch the Denuvo protection.

Cracked Denuvo games are still running Denuvo, yes, but a gimped version of it that does nothing but run checks that don't phone home and don't have the ability to halt the game.

>>16146905

just because it's redirected to being local and not a server doesn't mean it isn't running that process.

The fact that it still has to run that process still causes performance issues.

That being said, a crack will run faster then denuvo, but it'll still have the bloat and partial slowdowns of a denuvo game.

When a game is running checks in the background that doesn't need to be there it's still slower then running without.

The code is still running, denuvo isn't completely removed, it's still slow.

You can compare the speed of some denuvo games to their cracks and then to their later updated version that removed denuvo and you will see this.

The crack will still run slower then the updated version.

>>16146981

>just because it's redirected to being local and not a server doesn't mean it isn't running that process.

I'm explicitly saying it is running the process. But it's not a bypass, it's still technically a crack.

>The fact that it still has to run that process still causes performance issues.

I agree. I never said it didn't.

>That being said, a crack will run faster then denuvo, but it'll still have the bloat and partial slowdowns of a denuvo game.

Actually, I think they run the same. Did you test yourself?

>>16147213

>im retarded

Are you a drm cuck that thinks its stopping games from being cracked?

>>16147220

he's right, retard. except talking about it on 8chan is somewhat private

>>16147230

no hes not, piracy isnt some exclusive club and never has been. Its pitifully easy to circumvent the "drm" most people employ. You just want to be a secret club fag on a site that actively harvests user info

>>16147247

piracy is better off being an exclusive club and kept away from the niggers and shitskins that inhabit this board that see it fit to mourn the closure of an adware ridden shithole like emuparadise.

>>16146525

I dont know anon, but the thing is, its free.

Try it out and see for yourself if its fun to you or not.

>>16146757

Anon, he fucking sucks at proper sarcasm and that should have been obvious to you too. Almost anybody anywhere would have thought he was serious.

>Making fun of anons for having autism

Where do you think you are.jpg

>>16147213

Nobody gives a shit about this site to care enough about our piracy threads.

If these threads were on cuckchan then that would be an entirely different issue then.

>>16147301

Thats not true anon, this site is infested with reddit, 4chan, and other forum fags. Its just as bad here as it is anywhere else. Youre deluded if you think otherwise

>>16147308

Not to the staggering degree cuckchan is though.

I probably count as a forum fag too because after I came here I also made a twitter account

Staying on one website all day nearly everyday gets extremely boring eventually

>>16147325

Thats right.

What they fuck are the anti-piracy fags going to do anyways?

Shut down the internet or some dumb shit like that?

There is literally nothing anybody can do about it.

>>16146731

Nothing to do with that. Its just that there aren't many seeders with fast upload speeds yet.

>>16147348

>Running cracks through wine

Dude they barely work on Windows as it is.

>>16147348

Only reason I still use Windows is because I don't have access to pirated games on GNU/Linux

>>16146537

>download jumpforce

>install it

>it's not a shitty 3d fightan

>long cutscenes

>not even kenshiro and jotaro could save this shit game

anime games never again

>50GB

Don't wanna.

>>16147415

Wanted to give it a shot, besides the crack part of the deal seems to be working alright

Might try playing with dxvk to see if it works

>>16147417

It works surprisingly often, granted I usually go for AA, A or indie games

>>16147528

Thats the Epic Games shill

>>16147463

Thanks YIFY

Miller dies.

>>16147463

I dont get it

>>16147443

>Not having a private tracker

Pathetic

>>16147463

enjoy bitcoin

>>16147649

Fuck♂you♂

>>16147649

literally who?

>>16147739

He doesn't have any. Don't stick around.

>>16146499

So anyone autistically finished it yet? A buddy said the ending was still the same binary bullshit they pulled for the last two games and weren't meaningful.

>>16147799

Spoiler:

If you are a good boy you live, if you are a bad boy you die. The moral score happens through the game but essentially irreversible (to bad) if you dont save Duke on the first map by not going on a rampage.

>>16147528

>corporate cocksucker uses the avatar and namesake of an agent of chaos

Lol

>>16147808

Thanks, with that, I think we get the reason why they made several goddamn trailers about the weapons and mechanics, the developers can't move beyond that pretentious bullshit.

>>16147781

670 and I'm in the same boat between this and RE2make. I guess its time to camp Slickdeals for a 1070 sale or something. I wish 3D printers were farther along, I hate giving money to jews.

This runs like shit on computer so it seems I'll be giving it a pass. 960 with 8 gigs of ram i3 7300 for reference running on the lowest settings I was getting massive jittering and fps drops.

>>16146528

yeah, but crackdown 3 is win10 only bullshit.

>>16147808

Stealth in metro is so abysmal and boring that I'll just play the game as if it was S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Kill all enemies and do it loud.

I mean, why would anyone play Metro with stealth? The AI is among the most braindead in any shooter out there, completely blind to anything that isn't jumping in the open. The melee animations are absolute dogshit and the sound of the knives is stupid too.

Meanwhile the guns are somewhat good and feel satisfying. Screw the good goyim ending, I'm going guns blazing

>>16147458

Nvidia card with proprietary driver?

>>16147854

Well, to a point I agree. I wish being violent did not punish the player. All the cocksuckers in the world try their best (for braindead AI) to kill you, but you must be Jesus Christ to enjoy the story's intended path.

What if being non-violent was actually the bad ending because you let so many crazies go free?

Man I wish we had a spiritual successor to Stalker, but I guess that mod that combines all the games is the best we will have for a long time.

>>16147816

Seven years, only gotten worse.

>>16147649

I thought he was already dead?

DENOVU is dead.

Thank the gods.

Downloadan.

Do we really need individual threads for every game that gets cracked? When Far Cry gets cracked tomorrow will you make another one, even though there are 2 denuvo threads up to page 5 right now?

>>16147856

Yes, using nouveau wouldn't work in all likelyhood

>>16148467

I'll definitely make a thread when New Gundam Breaker gets a crack. That fucking kusoge has been uncracked for 150 days right now since its (((steam))) release.

I would not really care about this shit if it had been not for the exclusive mobile suits like my fat dickboy Nightingale and the stylish fag Atlas Gundam.

I wonder if any other big studio vidya product has been without a crack for this long.

>>16147764

Its finally done!

The first time I tried to run the game it was just a black screen after the opening intro cinematic.

The second time I tried to open it, it asked me if I would want to run it in safe mode so I did and the game ran just fine!

Its okay so far, I just made it to the first roadblock, dont want to play anymore because im tired as shit.

>>16146499

>Story has Anna team up with Artyom at times.

>They fight it out together, covers while the other reloads and act as a team.

>Get into pretty serious situations but always come through for each other.

I kinda wish more FPSs did this, gives you a bond and an NPC who can actually fight. Elizabeth had a bit more free roam in Bioshock but Anna actually fights back in places.

>In springs, Artyom sits in his cabin with Anna who rests her head on his lap.

Aww.

>>16149397

>fatgirl allows donations via voluntary miner so that means he doesn't put them in his repacks!

So gullible.

>>16150867

Sezer please. You'll always be a turkroach.

>>16146503

Sounds like quintessential pirate-don't-buy.

>>16148467

Yes. Kicking Denuvo shills in the teeth for every dumb post they've made is a service that will continue.

Is metro exodus a lame farcry game?

eat shit chinks

>>16150871

Let him do it.

The fewer the people that download from fatgirl, the better speeds we get due to less leeches.

>>16150897

>Is metro exodus a lame farcry game?

No. It's a Stalker-lite gamedesign is about the same, but without the scope, variety and ambiance of a Stalker that made those games so enjoyable.

And a stupid story.

It's a C+ game, nothing is "really bad" but nothing is really great either.

>>16146741

>video

>177seconds game loading time to main menu

>70+ seconds to load mission

What the fuck? How is that even considered playable?

Anyone other than a4d37d chime in and comment about the game? About what's good or bad about it?

100 posts and almost nobody even talked about it.

>>16147843

They released a bunch of patches since the first crack which haven't been cracked yet. They addressed the optimization supposedly.

Metro series aren't bad games just a little linear. Still better than the majority of FPS because they are highly atmospheric and an interesting setting. They are worth playing through at least.

>>16151093

It crashes everytime I run it. Sucks.

>>16151285

Thanks

I'll wait till CPY cracks an update then

it could be weeks, right?

>>16151285

I've had it crash twice, a few bugs as well but nothing game breaking yet. Funniest one was where a humanimal was outside the spawn zone and looked like the size of an island, found it's way to me and initiated a QTE but I thought it looked like King Kong for a second.

>>16151215

Ditches the horror for more of the survival, which I get considering the Dark Ones have left and leaving the Metro is the only interesting story left.

>>16151593

>>16151093

CPY crack works for me on a Ryzen CPU, there seems to regularly be a divide on Intel/AMD with denuvo cracks.

There's no graphics options in-game, only presets, vsync, motion blur, and resolution, which is weird. The game so far is ok, but way too easy. Playing on ranger hardcore, there hasn't been any challenge whatsoever. The game starts very linear, and you get captured. So you're trying to sneak past enemies to free some guy, and it's pathetically easy. Even when spotted, enemies will just stare at you if you're in the darkness for five or more seconds before shooting you. You and your enemies both die very quickly, which is nice. In the first open world area you need to either sneak through or kill everyone in an anti-technology cult. Again, it was incredibly easy to sneak past everyone. I've also noticed oversights in the level design, such as floating objects and lamps embedded in the ground (that you can still turn on and off). One of the mechanics that annoys me is that when looting weapons, E replaces your weapon and R loots the ammo and attachments. Why not the other way around? Also, a lot of inventory stuff feels clunky. To switch thrown weapons, you have to hold the throw key for at least half a second, and then use the movement keys to select it. This is really slow and clearly console focused, plus the movement keys still move Artyom when the menu is open. You collect weapon attachments as you go, and you can freely add or remove them without consequence. There's a new crafting system with two resources, chemicals and scrap. You can make ammo and thrown weapons/items, and also clean your weapons at outposts. Weapon cleanliness affects damage, rate of fire, and other elements depending on the specific weapon. I'm not sure how I feel about the crafting system so far, I haven't gotten far enough into the game to decide on it. The open world kind of feels like STALKER with less freedom of choice and a much much lower difficulty curve. Maybe it will get harder as I proceed. Also, the game has a "Reader" mode for brainlets who can't play FPS games.

>>16151614

They also overhyped "cloud destruction" by faking it in the tech demo that they knew would never work over consumer-grade internet speeds.

>>16151065

Yeah basically this. At least it doesn't have hideous-looking women.

>>16151757

Thanks. I heard you have to play it on hardcore mode to get a better experience, and then it becomes fun since you die in a few shots just like the opponents.

Regarding performance, I have an overclocked FX 8320 so I'm sure it won't run as well as it does for you. I'll wait till the next the next update gets cracked since I read there'll be optimization.

>http://updatecrazy.com/metro-exodus-update-version-1-03-patch-details-read-whats-new-fixed/

>Optimization for Lower spec PC’s

The game technically runs okay for me but I'm having strange voice issues. Every voice file is playing a slow speed that makes everyone sound like they're demons from hell.

>>16151777

What's your hardware?

>>16147764

>spoiler to break the link

Why don't you niggers just remove the https?

fitgirl-repacks.site/metro-exodus/ works fine, just drag it to a new tab or ctr+c f6 ctr+v.

>>16151802

Windows 7 Pro

Intel i7-4820K

asus p9x79 mobo

16GB RAM

Radeon RX 480 4GB

and I'm using the fitgirl repack version of the game and only installed the English voice files, so that could be the issue. It's tempting to try reinstalling with the Russian sound files instead to see if it's just an issue with the English voices

>>16151837

Thanks. Yeah, you could give that a shot.

>>16151770

1.03 already? Each patch also has Denuvo that needs to get cracked so if a game breaking bug or some big issues, such as performance, are there for the release version, it will take a while before someone gets round to cracking the updates.

Akademgorodok

My new favorite word.

>>16151973

You only really need to crack the latest update.

On the flip side, I think not exactly sure since contracts are secretive Denuvo charges money for each update you release with it, so the more updates, the more discouraged people should be to use it.

>>16153966

Finished it, rather good. Save your molotovs towards the end, pack a shotgun and you should be fine. Ending as a little abrupt but if this is how Artyom's story ends, I'm happy with it. Wondering what kind of DLC they'll add.

I kind have been sacrificing sleep to get through this. First game of 2019 I've enjoyed.

>>16155106

>everyone is white

DROPPED

>>16155228

game runs like ass on my system on high-ultra settings. Plus stuttering out the ass.

>>16155106

>Games good. Pretty well optimized too

Imagine being a lying sack of shit. Everyone experiences abysmal framerate and stuttering but somehow your game runs fine on some crappy i3 and a mid-range 1060 on extreme settings 2K res

>>16146525

I'm actually enjoying it but like 65% of the game is listening to "CYKA BLYAT CHEEKI BREEKI BLIN" and not actually playing the game.

>>16146706

Cracked games are just bypassing Denuvo. Denuvo's still there, it's just not preventing you from playing. So no.

>>16155260

>>16155264

Don't know how much of an impact it had, but there was a patch that hasn't been cracked that says it increased performance. Maybe he payed for it. Either way he's a faggot.

>>16155298

I have similar specs and needed to go down to high once I got to the open world to maintain 60fps, and I still get some stutter. Might be a AMD/Intel split, or maybe it's because I'm using windows 7, although I assume you would too, considering you're using tor.

>>16155440

>windows 7

It does run better on DX12 than it does on DX11 on AMD cards.

The game doesn't have Vulkan because Jews.

>>16155298

>walmart PCs

Wew, imagine acting like a redditor PCmustard nigger. Are you one of those retards who think graphics cards need to be changed every year and that 8GB RAM "is not enough" even though games barely look any better than what they did 5 years ago?

>>16155581

>8GB RAM "is not enough" even though games barely look any better than what they did 5 years ago?

What does this mean?

That 8gb is enough for games older than 5 years old but not enough for modern games?

Head's up, I got hit with an AUP for Ace combat 7, which is strange, Bamco is eyeballing the public tracker; Exodus though I didn't get smacked for.

Back to using a VPN for me I guess, unless Peer-blockers actually work and aren't voodoo

>>16155623

Which country are you from?

>>16155640

Muttmerica

>>16155106

>And everybody is white and straight.

You have a Kazakh team member

>>16155228

Laurel and Hardy

>stuttering even on medium settings on an R9 290 and an i5-4690k

>jump and FPS from from 45 to 38

>literally fucking jump

>turn around and frame rate drops to single-digits

<meanwhile literally any other game out there runs max settings 50-60fps with no stuttering

<I can load up even trash like FC5 and BFV and max them out with no stuttering and get 45-60 on FC5 and locked 60 on BFV

Fuck this game and fuck the subhumans who made it. I unironically want every last person who worked on this game to die in a fire.

>>16155731

Just turn on RTX :^)

>>16155612

because developers are lazier about pc optimization. That's the sole reason why pc hardware requirements have gone up over the last couple of generations. The games aren't more demanding, they just run worse. Same reason file sizes have gone up.

>>16156090

My point was I didn't get this post. I don't know if he thinks more than 8gb is plain unnecessary even for modern games as a technical point or if playing modern games is what's unnecessary, as a taste point.

>>16156266

Many retards think that 8GB isn't enough nowadays for video games, despite the fact that older games that looked no different than new ones ran just fine. Developers are lazier than they've ever been before and their dumb followers defend their unoptimized games and tell you to "upgrade" even though you shouldn't need to because new games aren't visually impressive and shouldn't need more than 8 gigs of ram.

fucking based

>>16147213

>calling copying piracy

>implying it is not our god-given right

The eternal shill always reveals himself through his actions.

Everything about this game feels sloppy and poorly executed. Shit's broken. So it's about what I'd expect from a Russian game.

Why this game looks like it have a slight graphical upgrade, compared to the older one, yet it runs a lot worse.

>>16159128

It looks significantly worse when it comes to scene composition and lighting. Mostly thanks to nvidia pushing rtx cancer hard.

>>16159306

>oy vey goyim pay for our propaganda

>>16159306

where do you think you are?

>>16146503

The game wasn't as bad as I expected. It doesn't go full open world meme. It had two relatively small open world levels with several standard linear ones, and one semi-open level in between. Even in the open world zones there was a heavy emphasis on enclosed stealth-oriented areas for the main story. As with Last Light, the good ending is largely dependent on not killing people, but unlike Last Light only certain kinds of people count. Bandits are always fine to kill, which is nice because it gives you an opportunity to actually USE some of the weapons you find on humans rather than only ever getting to shoot monsters.

The main complaint I really have about it is that it put way too much effort into making each zone completely different. Not original, just different. Otherwise it's as close to the core series that it could get after leaving Moscow, which had to happen. Oh, and they seem to have completely forgotten about the Dark Ones, not so much as a single mention anywhere in the game that I could find, even in historical context.

>>16163083

Your comrades call Artyom "bane of the dark ones" or some shit a couple times.

>>16163320

Maybe I just missed it. I only listened to about half of the conversations that I could find, and what I could find was probably less than half the conversations in the game. In any case the big central plot of the previous two games is less than a footnote.

How long till they crack the update?

Are there any other new garbage Denuvo games they're focusing on instead?

>>16163361

For minor optimizations? Probably never. Wait until they release a patch that actually matters

>>16163368

Is that how cracking teams operate?

They crack whatever pirates want the most?

I though they operated under the shadows, cracking whatever they wanted.

>>16163377

They probably crack whatever they can. The more the better, especially big titles which can get their name out there and get donations.

>>16163426

They don't get any donations. They're secretive and don't give the public any route to track them with.

Voksi did, but he wasn't part of the scene.

>>16163361

I don't really see updates get cracked. You're probably just going to have to wait for the Ultimate/Redux/GOTY version or get a better PC, goy :)

>>16164012

Also wanna say you're forced to use a pneumatic weapon like the Tikhar or the Hellsing later. This is because you can only make ammo for these out in the field while you can only craft ammo at work benches. This made it so I couldn't use my silent revolver rifle that's served me well since 2033, as that was a silent range weapon and it'd bean sacrificing a spot for either my assault rife or shotgun which couldn't happen.

The Hellsing is a bit of a let down, as you get it in the first part of Taiga but can't kill any Pioneers or Pirates, which make up 3 of the 4 camps you walk through. And there are nosalis in the dead city, making you shotgun a priority there instead of a silent range weapon.

The ammo counts for all weapons are also way down, I could only carry 48 shotgun shells with the ammo vest equipped and that didn't last long as you chew through them with monster encounters. 180 assault rifle is like 5 clips as goes past very quickly.

Had fun with it but suffers the same problem Dishonored did, to get the good ending you essentially have to be a pacifist.

>>16159394

Christians don't give their shekels to jews, Satan's children

>>16163973

How long will that be? ;_;

>>16164012

last two areas were rushed to hell, dead city less so as it felt more of a homage to the linear mission of the last two games but taiga was a massive waste. Caspian sea was relatively boring with 90% of areas being molehills but Volga was pretty much the best

>>16164058

>>16164012

You aren't really "forced" to use the pneumatic weapons, other than the fact that one of your 3 weapon slots is dedicated to one of them and can't carry a normal third gun. You don't need very much ammo, because as you mentioned killing humans is bad, and there aren't really that many mutants around that you need to be crafting shit. The exception is during the cannibal bunker and the final mission, but the cannibals drop so much ammo for shotguns and rifles that you could easily use nothing but that and never craft anything, and you can probably sneak past the librarians (I never tried).

One annoying thing about the ammo is that it resets between levels. You can leave the bridge level with full ammo for all 3 weapon slots and 600+ materials, but when you get into the next level you'll be down (or up) to about 200 materials and about 1.5 mags per weapon. Medkits and filters carry over though. The bright side is that means you don't need to horde all that shit all game.

I would really like it if there were some way to NG+ and play through the open world levels with the Helsing and railgun unlocked. Not being able to use the best weapons in the game except in areas they are explicitly unsuited for really sucks. I tried editing the saves but couldn't get it to work.

>>16166594

>One annoying thing about the ammo is that it resets between levels

That sucks. I though this was supposed to be an open world game with inventory management?

>>16165952

Taiga was the semi-open forest level right? I thought that level was the best in theory, combining linear design with plenty of open places to explore. In practice though unless you really want to find all the notes and NPC conversations you just b-line straight for the objectives, and the open spaces make it easy to simply walk right past all the enemies.

>>16146525

Resources do not respawn

Bandits do not respawn

Mutants do respawn

Mutants don't drop loot

Exploring the game without using ammo or getting your gun dirty is tedious as fuck. You basically crawl around at night the whole time hoping nothing sees you, and savescumming when it does. You hate exploring anywhere because it's going to cost gun dirtiness or ammo or other resources. Even walking through a muddy puddle will make your gun dirty, which makes it jam. Cleaning the gun costs chemicals, which do not respawn. So essentially, walking around the game causes you to slowly run out of resources you cannot replace without pressing forwards, but this is an open world game demanding a lot of backtracking. Worst design flaw I've seen since the Fisher Price dialogue system in Fallout 4.

If they'd just include some respawning wandering bandits, it would be possible for the player to gradually restock after a hectic section of the game. Sucks.

>>16155106

You forgot the super brainy Arab. Shame that the apocalypse happened, because he would've been a nobel prize winner for sure.

Oh yeah, and first enemies you encounter are a Christian cult that worship a fish and live in a church.

Even Russians are getting infected with brainslugs. And yes, Ukranians are Russians.

>>16166915

Gun gets dirty regardless of whether you use it or not. Also, use knives whenever possible.

>>16166915

use the tikhar and throwing knives

tikhar ammo is dirt cheap to make and throwing knives can be picked up and re-used over and over again

also are you fucking retarded LOL ammo and resources are always plentiful on normal, you must be doing a first playthrough on ranger then crying like a bitch cos you cant handle it

>>16167213

More than enough on Hardcore too. I won't touch ranger because of the stupid things it does to the game.

How much dialogue do I have to suffer through until I can go around killing things?

>>16167339

You are clearly playing the wrong game.

>>16167222

Is it cheating to put a crosshair on the screen with marker pen in Ranger just to make throwing knives usable?

>>16167471

>Stupid intro where nothing matters

>Wake up in medbay, wife talks

>Father in law comes, talks

>Walk around, people talking

>Get to door with window, can see wife and dad talking

>They wait for me so they can talk more

<Don't wanna talk

>Haven't even been introduced to the mechanics

>Anticipate tutorials with talk

<Close game

I don't have the patience for this crap anymore.

>>16167770

It felt like two intros and after it there a section where stealth is better explained. The real game is only when the semi open-world starts.

I know that RDR 2 "intro"/tutorial was nearly two hours, but Metro Exodus is easily 20-40 minutes.

>>16164012

It's possible to work towards the good ending while still killing humans because of the whole importance on faction reputation vs. good/bad of the previous games. I killed my way through bandit territories, freed villagers, spared whoever surrendered and still managed to pass the Volga without losing a teammate.

>>16166955

I know an ukrainian mutt who would get ultra triggered for reading your statement.

>>16164012

>but don't you dare have fun with those or someone'll get hurt

The morality system doesn't work like that, it's a weird point system like in the previous games (especially the first one).

You can kill almost anyone shooting at you as long as you for no costs AFAICT and as long as you help the people that need help and don't kill people that surrender/mind their own business, you should still have enough to get a positive karma.

The only guys I think you really need to avoid killing I think are the merchants on the boat (I mean the guys do nothing to you and you're already stealing their boat… it's OK for the game telling you you're a dick for killing them when it's piss easy to sneak to the captain).

Then you have the fishermen (not the bridge guards), the pioneers & the children of the forest (not the pirates), the slaves (not the tribals), a couple of NPCs… all of which are unharmed and talk to you or hide/run from you.

The only unharmed NPC you can kill (and possibly should), is the real Baron.

NPCs will have different dialogues and different zone ending depending some of it but your men should still follow you.

However I'm 98% certain that lethal takedowns make you lose karma even on bandits (as you chose to kill when you have literally another button to push to not) which is the reason why people think you can't shoot back while in truth they've been slitting throats left and right and pretend they're not assholes…

Now you should still be positive if you do all the things that make you gain karma in a map, but my guess is if you do a lot of it and miss a gain you still end up negative, even if you didn't went out of your way to murder helpless people.

>>16168226

Did you get the moral point loss on lethal takedowns? If not I don't think it counts. I never got a moral point gain from going full stealth either but maybe the game counted the guard ragdolling off the bridge as a kill.

>>16168299

In Ranger mode, played sneaky breaky murdering all the bandits in their sleep (but not the bridge guards, the merchants or any "civilians") game, did everything that gives you good karma and the got to the preacher and he yelled for his men to shoot us.

Restarted, got paranoid and went FULL sneak (I did NO takedown at all on fishermen and guards) but got in straight fights with the bandits.

The preacher mentioned that I had eradicated them… but he told his guards to let us through.

For the slaves, I messed up and got into lots of fights but did everything I could to gain karma (funnily enough there is a lot of karma to be won when the Baron invites you and his men are beating on slaves and girls… Yes you can deck the guys doing it in the middle of a giant crowd of enemies, they reacted the second time though and it turned into a giant mess, but while I was fully expecting Damir to stay behind since I killed many tribals, he still stayed.

And on the next one I got into a fight with pirates last base but I just rushed out only killing a couple and Alyosha wasn't hurt.

So my conclusion is that either lethal take-downs cost karma or the games tracks whether or not you're starting the firefights (and if you tried to sneak but got caught you don't gain karma for being nice to the locals but you don't loose any either, so doing the few good things is enough).

Also it's entirely possible karma doesn't reset between maps.

In anyway it's clearly not killing = bad, not killing = good.

>>16167676

Crosshair is the least of my issues. It's a very stupid change (basically all UI-removal is retarded), but the worst part of Ranger is the lack of Quicksave. Also for throwing knives, I like to aim with my (scoped+laser) weapon, seems to work pretty accurately.

Quicksave in this game is not quite what you would normally think of. Instead of saving every two steps in order to get the exactly perfect approach to combat, you can't save in combat at all. Instead Quicksave generally takes the place of what normally would be "hard" saving, giving you some place to fall back to if your autosave is fucked, because only quick and auto exist. It also helps in the open world and dialog areas if you don't trigger an autosave for an extended period.

I'm playing it and so far this game really is a casualized STALKER, some portions feel exactly like STALKER, except manual save (on ranger hardcore) and a true inventory system.

>>16176258

except areas are much smaller, more boring (especially that dreadful desert level) and game doesn't even know if it wants to be scripted story driven game or open world game since it switches between both constantly and doesn't give you much freedom you have to do story objectives how devs want , otherwise you won't be able to progress to next level.

Looting is boring (and desert level had multiple buildings with either no loot or just 1-2 bodies i can't think of lazier game design environment textures also looked like they would come from 2001), there are not enough guns, weapon upgrades are lame (just pick the best attachment with no cons bro, only 45 ammo mag and silencer have cons with less accuracy/lowered dmg).

Game is filled with bugs i got game breaking but and i had to restart whole chapter (5h of gameplay lost) and i have legit copy of a game, hitboxes are wonky, enemy ai are either retarded or can see you through walls and start shooting and killing you instantly.

The first 2h were pretty cool it was atmospheric with different feel than past games but after that game started showing lack of polish and direction, 4th game will be even worse that's for sure.

>>16176470

Yeah, I agree with all the above, I would still rate it above the last 2 games due to the amount of freedom it gives.

The game has a problem of being a fucking theme park.

They should focus only 03 areas (snow area, desert area, forest) and make a whole game based on those 3 with some undeground vault sprinkled on top, and not the mish mash that it is now.

Been playing a bunch today, really enjoying it so far on ranger. It's fun being low on supplies, clearing out some bandits and reaping the rewards. When I first heard it was "exploration, survival, crafting, shooter" I thought it'd be way worse. The crafting is kinda retarded since there's only two substances but it's not obnoxious so far. I like that I can plan trips at certain times and that the enemies call you out similar to fear. Shame they never mentioned lore from past games but mechanically this is the most enjoyable crafting shooter I've played so far, surprising it's not shit.

Fuck this game is good, definitely my favourite of the series and one of my favourites from recent years. Awesome graphics to go with great environmental design. The world is big enough to let you explore and give you some freedom, but small enough to not be boring and empty. I think it nails the balance between open world and linear elements. There's a great amount of diversity to most things in this game. Really enjoying the story and characters, there's so much fucking optional dialogue in this game to soak in. It's just such a well made post-apocalypse. There's plenty more cool shit in this game but I need to get back to playing it right now.

Man I'm gonna have to buy the fucking game if I want those optimization updates fuck's sake

I bet they won't remove Denuvo for at least another month

>>16194755

i don't understand how you would see that, the semi-open world helps make the atmosphere my dude, adds to the immersion