47e4a4 No.16120569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFAknD_9U7c
>hollow knight new dlc is basically a sequel
c25279 No.16120587
>>16120569
>>16120582
how about a non-jew webm
47e4a4 No.16120595
>>16120582
>>16120587
Nice, thanks. My mistake.
f60494 No.16120614
>>16120569
>basically
From what I've seen it's a completely new game, separate from Hollow Knight.
a01a54 No.16120628
>>16120569
>>16120614
The trailer says
>The second game by Team Cherry
It's a second game alright
47e4a4 No.16120632
>>16120626
Everybody knew it was a female protagonist, it was promised in the kickstarter. Besides, she is cute.
29d3e4 No.16120639
Hornet a cute but i hope they finally fix that fucking "press jump near the edge of a ledge doesnt register as the model is already recognised as getting into the falling animation before they leave the ledge and you fall off and eat shit when you know you pressed jump" input lag.
c30957 No.16120640
>Expect some stand alone DLC
>It's a legit new fucking game
Even now there is hope for man.
b21672 No.16120644
Those new movement abilities look great.
I hope it explains more about the world and isn't completely separate from the first story/place.
29d3e4 No.16120646
>>16120640
Eat shit yacht club.
83f1a1 No.16120648
I remember this being promised as DLC for Hollow Knight as a Kickstarter goal but with how much content they shoved into HK I don't have a problem with this being a separate game. I'll likely throw money at it, I bought Hollow Knight after pirating it and seeing the insane amount of content in it and seeing how many free expansions the devs added to it. If this gets the same treatment it'll be worth more than the 20 bux they'll likely sell it for.
f60494 No.16120676
>>16120648
Yeah, HK starts out slow and you wonder why everyone's praising it so much only for the game to gradually open up, and keep opening up until you finally realize just how gargantuan the gameworld truly is and just how much shit they crammed into it.
Also, kudos for all the free content they released post-launch.
83bb48 No.16120712
>>16120569
Given how hard they worked on Hollow Knight, and how much free shit they crammed into it, I'm completely okay with them making a second game. I dig the whole Hollow Knight setting and aesthetic enough to be excited that they are making more stuff for it.
f9507e No.16120759
Good Hollow knight was a good game.
bcb29d No.16120786
>>16120569
>It's a new game
8959a9 No.16120799
>>16120569
I like Hollow Knight, I remember the back of the box saying: 'it just takes 30 hours to get as fun as Megaman X right out of the box'.
Grinding basic movement skills makes me invested in the game, and it's a harsh but fair teacher. Just like I imagine having a dad is like.
29d3e4 No.16120833
>>16120828
Cuck Stepdads don't count.
9654c1 No.16120864
>>16120632
>you can play as hornet
Fucking finally.
>>16120639
>input lag
I never got this my self but I did have a few friends complain about it. Which is weird because my controller is fucking shit.
964a5b No.16120874
>>16120569
>>16120582
>They made good on their promise and released not just a Hornet DLC, but an entire new game.
>Not just a rehash of the first game, completely new take on combat and movement.
>Not an asset flip, the majority of content looks to be new.
>Hints at numerous mysteries of the first game.
>Teases fighting the other Knights missing from the first game.
I'm not going to pre-order it like some mouth breathing mongrel, but I'll look forward to buying this someday. I hope this game has just as much sequence breaking as the first one did.
82dc9c No.16120922
We are probably not hearing of the hornet waifufag because he has drown in his own cum.
29d3e4 No.16120944
>>16120929
this is fine. Trannies haven't tried to claim Hornet like Samus.
Yet.
f60494 No.16120948
>>16120929
>AM2R
>dead
>while still being actively developed on the sly
5d24e0 No.16120956
Team cherry is a blessing.
324803 No.16120958
>>16120944
>>16120948
I know, this is the same for DDLC, one of the AM2R guys worked on that too
f60494 No.16120962
>>16120958
>DDLC
Why would that one be developed on the sly, though? Or are they adding shit to the "game" without informing anyone just to fuck with the audience?
26389b No.16120966
Good. Hollow Knight is a good game.
b1e0e8 No.16120969
>>16120929
>am2r died
wait what? i played the whole thing. what ia m missing here?
f60494 No.16120970
>>16120969
Nintendo sent a C&D because they're utter kikes. Didn't stop the community from continuing to release patches and add features, though.
b1e0e8 No.16120988
>>16120970
wait so youre saying the game is still being improved?
f60494 No.16121006
>>16120988
Yeah, on reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AM2R/comments/9nonkk/am2r_release_143/
What basically happened is that 1.0 launched (or was "leaked" after the C&D dropped), Nintendo lost their tits because they're faggot and were launching their own Metroid remake on the 3DS, so the original author left the project, but there's not much Nintendo can do when anonymous patches to the game mysteriously become available to the community, can they?
3dd828 No.16121016
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I can barely contain my excitement, hollow knight was a great game.
On another note, the devs released a video talking a bit about the new game.
ca3bce No.16121025
>>16120569
>silksong
Are they being cheeky cunts about Ghostsong's never ever status?
26389b No.16121040
>>16121006
hah. Good to hear AM2R is being updated
f96283 No.16121179
it's… beautifull
i want it
i need it
ae8952 No.16121207
So how long until the guy who kept screeching about HK being socialist propaganda shows up
3b9ca6 No.16121218
>>16121207
It's been 4 hours, he sure is late
f96283 No.16121226
>>16121207
i guess you could make social comentary about china since the MC of the game is a souless bugman scavengin the ruins of a once great kingdom
you can even make a case about (((monotheistic))) deities hell bent on controling what people think by acting like some sort of mental disease that turn thinking people into mindles zombies
there's also a lot to talk about about the pale aryan king being the one who brought civilisation to the world and how everything he built was destroyed by the (((radiance)))
b9e875 No.16121255
>>16120569
>Hornet gets her own game
>Her gameplay is the Metroidvania equivalent of Vergil
All is right with the world
>>16120828
Sounds like someone wasn't here for flag day
25452f No.16121279
>>16120929
I thought AM2R was finished? What the hell did I play?
11b346 No.16121288
Good. Hollow Knight is a good game.
e6c4ff No.16121289
>>16120569
Retarded enemy noises? Again? And now on top on that, a sequel where the main character won't shut up? Hollow Knight 1 was good, but oh fucking god, all its bosses made unbelievably retarded french sounds.
b9e875 No.16121295
>>16121279
AM2R. One of the devs is still working on the game anonymously. It's pretty much just all bug fixes and performance enhancements though. I haven't seen any new content come out of it
a3956f No.16121323
fa41b4 No.16121343
Good. Hollow Knight is a good game.
05f18e No.16121374
>Battle voices
Oh joy.
Was Hollow Knight good? I vaguely remember giving it a shot and not even getting to the first boss before quitting for a silly reason.
f96283 No.16121379
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>>16121289
i could only wish i'd sound half as cool as Dung Deffender while heroically yelling nonsence with the most chivalrous voice possible
26389b No.16121390
>>16121374
Yes. The game gets better and better as you get more upgrades
b96c8f No.16121406
Hollow Knight porn is surprisingly good shit
ce0031 No.16121465
>>16120929
The AM2R dev is with the Ori and the Blind Forest team though.
ce0031 No.16121469
I should finish Hollow Knight.
b21672 No.16121471
>>16121374
The combat mechanics are very simple, if that's a problem for you then no. It gets a little more interesting when you're required to bounce off of things by attacking down.
The main strengths in my opinion are great atmosphere, huge map that just seems to keep going, and exploration. Places usually have several entrances/exits and you can explore them in many different orders.
3b9ca6 No.16121500
>>16121374
The combat mechanics are very shallow, the game shines for the exploration, the size of the map, lore and the few moments where the game gives you some challenge with movement mechanics
f96283 No.16121537
>>16121500
the combat is simple but not swallow
simplicity is an art, the MC only has a few moves but despite this the game still manages to be challenging even with the simplistic movement of the main character
if you are gonna complain about how simple the cmbat is then you probably don't like many old school games from the 8 or 16 bit era were all the games had to be simplistic due to technical limitations
da5689 No.16121545
>>16121016
Holy fuck they're Australian, might fly down to Adelaide one day now.
How the fuck didn't I know this before?
cac07e No.16121692
>>16121537
No, the combat is shallow. I love Hollow Knight and bought it after playing the pirated version, but you shouldn't pretend the game has combat depth.
>weak slash
>impractically slow charged slash
>impractically slow charge slash that restores mana
>dash which doesn't have i-frames until you upgrade it
>fireball that locks you in place for half a second
>upwards blast that isn't much better than just short hopping with the slash
>ground pound which doesn't have i-frames and doesn't knock enemies back far enough to prevent you from taking collision damage
Most of these options are worthless, and combined with the lack of momentum due to how lazily the jump is coded, almost every combat encounter is reducible to:
>slash slash slash slash
>oh shit he's winding up an attack, better move backwards
>run back in and slash slash slash slash
The arena was the most tedious part of the game, because it just locks you in a room with a bunch of enemies - I found the most success when I put together a gimmicky charm build and just memorized the spawn positions of each enemy so I could use my charge attacks to kill them before they spawned. Trying to do it "fairly" was an exercise in frustration because the other combat options were floaty and unfun.
Despite this shortcoming (which Silksong looks like it'll address), I still thoroughly recommend Hollow Knight due to its atmosphere, lore, and sense of exploration, because those are the game's strong suits.
b1e0e8 No.16121735
>upwards blast that isn't much better than just short hopping with the slash
>ground pound which doesn't have i-frames
this here is what gives away that you know really dont know how to use the skills
i bearly use the skills and even i know this not true
3b9ca6 No.16121739
>>16121692
>ground pound which doesn't have i-frames and doesn't knock enemies back far enough to prevent you from taking collision damage
The void version of the ground pound has a disgusting amount of i-frames. But yeah, the common nail slashes are so versatile that using spells isn't that useful unless you're using spell-boosting charms and other charms to boost soul acquisition.
f96283 No.16121753
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>>16121692
>weak slash
<there are at least 4 permanent upgrades without counting the charms… or you can just git gud
>impractically slow charged slash
<git gud or use the charm
>impractically slow charge slash that restores mana
<git gud or use the charm… again
>dash which doesn't have i-frames until you upgrade it
<needing i-frames for a dodge move to be usefull… git gud faggit
>fireball that locks you in place for half a second
<when you git gud, you can use this to your advantage
>upwards blast that isn't much better than just short hopping with the slash
<try using it every now and then, this attack is a metric fuck ton stronger than the slash… you just have to git gud
>ground pound which doesn't have i-frames and doesn't knock enemies back far enough to prevent you from taking collision damage
<have you even used this? once upgraded most magic spells are like cheats, you would know this had you ever tryed to git gud
tldr: vid related
dd8f49 No.16121754
>>16121545
probably hired some chinks to do the game while being drunk and high all the time
cac07e No.16121769
>>16121735
>no argument
You showed me.
>>16121739
There are certainly satisfying parts of it, but I just hope the devs focus on those rather than making the same mistakes.
b1e0e8 No.16121827
>>16121769
>no argument
my argument is you dont know how to use skills i was pretty clear about it. dont blame me for your lack of reading compreation
upwards blast can hit the same enemy even 4 or 5 times and like >>16121739 said ground pound has i-frames
go play the phanteon with all the bidings and you will see how usefull the skills really get
9ef1b5 No.16121888
>>16121692
The upward blast and down slam are good for multiple hits on some bosses and crowd control otherwise. I found them indispensable when fighting Lost Kin, because the balloons were always wrecking my shit otherwise.
Charge slash is mostly useful for things like the spin and other charge techniques. The spin can give you a lot of hits quickly on bosses that only temporarily become vulnerable, like Radiance.
It doesn't sound like you really tried to master using the spells effectively in combat. I agree that the combat is still a little simplistic, but it's more fun when you properly get a hang of the spells. It's definitely a game where exploration and platforming are the primary focuses.
cac07e No.16121954
>>16121888
>It doesn't sound like you really tried to master using the spells effectively in combat
I spent half of my 50 hours and 100% completion walking around with spell damage charms because I desperately wanted them to be relevant, but there was never much reason to use them because they provided such small benefits for the restrictions. The same was true of charge attacks, which were unusably slow without the charm to increase charge speed.
>you can save up a charge slash to hit the boss four times when it becomes vulnerable!
<or you can just jump and slash three times and not worry about holding down a button while dodging attacks
I should mention that apparently the way I had configured my controller and some other programs meant I had above average input lag, and I only learnt it could have been reduced after completing the game, but I spent plenty of time playing it and experimenting with all kinds of charm configurations.
f96283 No.16121996
>>16121954
>I spent half of my 50 hours and 100% completion walking around with spell damage charms because I desperately wanted them to be relevant
>I spent plenty of time playing it and experimenting with all kinds of charm configurations.
do you wanna know how i can tell you are talking bullshit?
flunkman chram (the worm charm) turned the basic fire ball into a 3 hit killing spell for most bosses
combine it with the soul sucking charm or the spell buffing charm and not only do most bosses go down in just a few hits but you can also quicly charge your magic back up by using the spining sword slash
i played the game mainly as a sword fighter with reach and speed charms becos of how OP magic was, unless you were trying to speed run, rellying on magic and using charms to buff it made the game fucking easy so long as you didn't had to relly to much on healing
9ef1b5 No.16122014
>>16121954
That's about the amount of time that I spent, but I didn't get 100% completion. The amount of damage spells do, and the fact that you're always gathering mana while attacking makes them useful to pepper between slashes.
> or you can just jump and slash three times and not worry about holding down a button while dodging attacks
A lot of bosses are invulnerable or too dangerous to attack for periods of time. Charging during these periods loses you nothing. I'd think that input lag would make spells more important for you, because the charge slash doesn't require quick inputs or reaction speed and with the right charms, it charges in half a second and does the damage of something like 4 ordinary slashes.
>>16121996
I don't think magic is OP. Without charms, it is way more powerful than the nail, but there were so many fucking powerful nail charms that slicing bosses to oblivion became trivial if you're willing to use them, especially because then it frees your mana up for healing.
I'd mostly recommend getting good with magic because the game is a lot more fun if you are willing to use it liberally.
4e78df No.16122146
>Iron Tower makes Age of Decadence, a great game
<Using what they've learned to make an even better game: Colony Ship
>Team Cherry makes Hollow Knight, a great game
<Using what they've learned to make an even better game: Silk Song
Even now, there is still hope for vidya. This could be a Day 1 buy if they don't fuck everything up, and I don't think they will.
563b4f No.16122161
>>16121289
They really dropped the ball with the sound design, should be alien sounding clicks and chirps rather than cutesy altered voices of them and their friends using sims language. Would really lend atmosphere to the game.
6047d7 No.16122172
>>16122146
I hope the Risk of Rain sequel turns out well as well.
9ef1b5 No.16122215
>>16122146
There's always been hope for vidya. Most games have always been shit, with a few gems buried among them. With game development being more accessible and big studios latching onto methods of leeching money from the public, it will get worse, but there will always be good games made by dedicated studios and independent game developers who actually care about what makes games good.
Like music, there will always be good stuff for those who dig for it.
9f0c09 No.16122238
>>16121545
Make sure to check the weather if you do.
4b0e2f No.16122396
>>16122161
A lot of the more bestial enemies and NPCs did have insect sounds though. It's only the friendly/intelligent NPCs that have gibberish voices, which fits into the game's lore perfectly. Citizens of Hallownest are uplifted bugs that are sapient due to the presence of the Pale King. Bugs that leave the kingdom (or succumb to the Radience) gradually lose their ability to think and talk.
>>16120874
>They made good on their promise and released not just a Hornet DLC, but an entire new game.
Not only this, but they're still going to honor their original promise to Kickstarter backers that they would receive the Hornet content for free. Even though it's no longer just a DLC expansion, but it's own game. Here's a quote from their announcement on the website:
http://archive.is/T6xrd
>To our 2158 Backers, you’ve heard it before, but Hollow Knight, and now Hornet’s entire adventure is thanks to you!
>Thanks to the incredible support of players and Kickstarter backers, what started out as a tiny game jam idea has become a game bought and played by over 2.8 million people!
>As a backer, your support made this happen, so you’ll of course be receiving your copy of Hollow Knight: Silksong 100% free.
>But we also know that times change, and the Nintendo Switch is quickly becoming a common (and excellent) console to own. Because of that, any backer of the game from the $10AUD and above tiers can choose to receive their copy of Hollow Knight: Silksong free on either PC or Nintendo Switch, at launch. We’ll shoot out a simple survey as we get closer to release to find out which version you’d like to receive.
That's some serious dedication to their backers, and I respect Team Cherry a lot for that.
3e65f0 No.16122533
>back Hollow Knight on Kikestarter
>get email telling me the sequel is free on a platform of my choice
T-thanks, bug senpai
73a1c3 No.16122535
I've never been happier to learn that I'll have to pay for something.
3d2899 No.16122600
>kike journalists and womyn bitch about the game being too hard
>dlc is 100 times harder than the regular game
I'll always love Team Cherry for that.
0d39f6 No.16122629
Penis monster is best monster.
4b0e2f No.16122704
>>16122600
>female journalist can't even beat Hornet 1 without God Mode cheats
That is honestly pathetic. I can never get over how video game journalists can't even competently play the medium that they write about as a career. Like a book critic that can't fucking read.
3e65f0 No.16122716
Are there any issues with the Switch version of Hollow Knight? I haven't played the DLC and I kind of just want to replay the whole thing together with it on a portable during a road trip.
a9d822 No.16122809
>>16122600
I had to look this up just to read it in full, and fucking wow.
>My reactions were not able to match her speedy attacks and I couldn’t accurately land a hit as she ran circles around me.
>After an hour, I finally defeated her, and then decided I needed a break. I left the world of Hollow Knight for a year, not really wanting to face the many boss battles that were yet to come.
>The invincibility mod for Hollow Knight can be turned on and off in-game so whenever I’m having a problem with a difficult boss or area I can switch on the mod, deal with the enemy and move on.
>I know, I know: I can hear your gasps of judgement from here. I understand that I’m not playing the game ‘correctly’ but I’m really enjoying my time with Hollow Knight with this mod and have zero regrets.
>I had a similar experience with the tough-as-nails platformer Celeste, although there was no need to install a mod. Celeste has a variety of ‘assist’ options such as double jump, infinite grip, and invincibility so that anyone can enjoy the game regardless of their skill. Shadow of the Tomb Raider also has a great list of difficulty options so you can adjust the way you approach puzzles, exploration, and combat. As more games adopt this approach it communicates that we’re more accepting of people enjoy games for more than the challenges they offer.
>To think that I never would have met Quirrel because I didn’t want to cheat, and that to do so is usually looked down upon, is quite sad. I would never have got to explore this gloomy world, with its memorable characters and wealth of lore, I’d never even have got the chance to find out why it’s constantly raining in the City of Tears.
84a88b No.16122869
>>16122704
>That is honestly pathetic. I can never get over how video game journalists can't even competently play the medium that they write about as a career.
Because they're wannabe film critics that are too retarded to make it in the movie industry so they begrudgingly became game critics, that's why they hold these movie games like TLoU and God of Soy to such a high standard.
>Like a book critic that can't fucking read
inb4 leftists book critics claim books should be entirely full of pictures so that they are accessible to blacks.
8761d3 No.16122887
>>16122600
reminder that these are the skil-less hacks game devs are bending over backwards to please
29d3e4 No.16122900
>>16122809
Remember how Blizzard made the word 'epic' meaningless? i think journos did that with 'lore'. They don't want a challenge to overcome. They want a wiki with music.
3b9ca6 No.16122908
>>16122809
>Stuck on Hornet I for a fucking hour
You know what, no. That's not even the most horrifying thing about this.
>Spend some time defeating a boss
>Beat it
>The reaction to beating a hard boss isn't "Wow that sure was hard, but I'm glad I was able to beat her. I wonder what other things is this game going to hold for me?", it's "Wow that sure was hard, let's install a trainer to trivialize the rest of the game so I'm not challenged like this ever again"
I have so many fucking problems with this. There's not a single industry with a journalism scene as abysmal as gaming's.
3d2899 No.16122913
>>16122716
It's only 720p docked, which kinda sucks. Frame rate problems are rare though.
563b4f No.16122932
>>16122396
Independent thought has nothing to with the physical mechanics of their speech, the language should sound like chitinous clicking or something, not just primates speaking gibberish.
3e65f0 No.16122945
>>16122913
>Frame rate problems are rare though.
Good, that's what I wanted to know. I tried Dead Cells on Switch and it was a huge mess because of all the framerate issues introducing tons of input lag in some zones.
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d7be91 No.16123347
>>16122809
>>16122908
last time I checked somebody ran the numbers and found that women (and soy cucks) have an inbuilt leniency of 23ms+ when they play games (they also have a habit of making bad decisions with platforming)
3d2899 No.16124115
>>16123347
Are you implying they are retarded?
dda810 No.16124175
>>16122600
>find hornet's first fight after two hours
That bothered me the most. She shouldn't take more than 45 minutes to find - I got to Greenpath around that time and I was going very slowly due to the lack of a compass and my autistic desire to explore everything perfectly.
>>16122932
You're an expert on the vocalizations of fictional, masked bug people, I take it.
>>16123347
[DESIRE TO KNOW MORE INTENSIFIES
072460 No.16124187
>>16123347
You mean they have a what is basically a latency built on top of their own reaction time?
c4ef4e No.16124341
>>16124187
>>16123347
B-but anon, my sci-fi says women make quicker decisions and better pilots than men!
412f74 No.16124486
>>16124341
The funny thing is, Heinlein still gets called a Fascist and Nazi sympathizer even though most of his books promoted racial and sexual equality. That was his favorite "gotcha" tactic, revealing that his protagonists were non-whites. I.e. Johnny Rico becomes Juan Rico.
b190c0 No.16124521
>>16124486
Fascism doesn't require an inferior race, just an Other to be fought against.
d0320e No.16124843
>>16122908
>>The reaction to beating a hard boss isn't "Wow that sure was hard, but I'm glad I was able to beat her. I wonder what other things is this game going to hold for me?", it's "Wow that sure was hard, let's install a trainer to trivialize the rest of the game so I'm not challenged like this ever again"
To be perfectly honest had a similar reaction although not at the same spot not exactly under the same circumstances
>finally almost done with everything so start tackling DLC content
>hard but not insurmountable, make my way slowly but surely through some content
>finally start tackling the pantheons
>1-3 are not that hard
>4 is starting to kick my ass pretty damn hard
>after some struggling manage to wrap my head around dealing with the pure vessel
>beat the 4th pantheon
>decide to try radiant bosses to see what the deal is
>hard but can handle a few
>for some ungodly reason decide to try beating radiant Markoth
>15hr autism marathon begins
>finally get him after dabbling into some meme build Kingsoul, glowing womb, defenders crest
>so fucking done by the time I fucking kill the fucker, burnout from binging 80hr of Hollow Knight in a week sets in and I realize it only gets worse from here that I simply dropped the game entirely
f60494 No.16124859
>>16124486
He was also a bonafide cuckold, writing book after book where a redheaded woman (just like his wife) enters an open relationship or starts an open marriage.
Lolbergs gonna lolberg.
cf4715 No.16124868
>>16122146
Isn't colony ship still a year out?
f60494 No.16124873
>>16122704
Remember, women aren't people. I still remember Anita whining that Mirror's Edge was too hard and telling the developers to automate the gameplay so her inferior female brain could keep up with it.
>I can never get over how video game journalists can't even competently play the medium that they write about as a career.
Same way leftists think Marxist is a viable economic theory despite Marx being so bad with money his children starved to death.
c1a86d No.16125136
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Post games better than Hollow Knight.
I'll start: Rabi Ribi, immediately more enjoyable and with a unique take on the genre.
b1e0e8 No.16125144
>>16125136
>better than hollow knight
hmm im not so sure abou that
dont get me wrong i liked rabi ribi especcially how bosses had level and change their patttern depending on it.
but still… i think HK had a better lore and atmosphere while RR had better gameplay
b1e0e8 No.16125145
>>16122809
i think i got cancer reading this
b1e0e8 No.16125164
>>16124843
>80hr of Hollow Knight
ok confession time then
>took 40hr + to beat pantheon 3 and 4 with all bidings
>move to pantheon 5 thinking i was free of that shit
>pantheon 5 also have bidings
>its ok, probably just 5 battles
>do a bindless run so that i can unlock the last 3 bossess at the hall of the gods
>pantheon 5 is all the bosses of the game in ascend mode.
>finally get fed up with that shit and tured god mode on.
after that i beated the 5 pantheon agin with no biding and no cheats and also beated all the all the bosses in radiant mode (again with no cheats). end up with 80hr + of game, while it took me 30 hr to beat the rest of the and dlcs.
i like boss rush but god dammit, godmaster was such a time waster.
36ac00 No.16125168
>>16122600
Does anybody actually care what outlets like Polygon and IGN actually think about games anymore? People only follow them for the news.
b173d6 No.16125262
>>16125144
>i think HK had a better lore and atmosphere while RR had better gameplay
it's better then
26389b No.16125410
>>16125136
rabi ribi was fun but its just generic weeb otaku shit on the artstyle and character design.
3d2899 No.16125550
>>16125136
The world of Rabi Ribi is so much more boring compared to Hollow Knight… in games focused on exploration and such, this make a big difference.
06287b No.16125778
>>16125550
>he doesn't know rabi ribi can be broken worse than metroid through secret techniques
>>16125410
>muh dark edgy style is better than animu
You should have stayed on reddit.
c262c8 No.16125991
>>16125136
>"What the fuck is rabi ribi?"
>Search for images of it.
>95% of the images are just weeaboo soft porn.
>The few images of an actual game have that cheap and lazy "japanese cash grab" style
Rabi ribi isn't a game, it's rpg maker meme trash.
ce0031 No.16125993
>>16125778
>hollow knight
>dark and edgy
ce0031 No.16125997
Did I accidentally stumble onto 4chan? What the fuck is going on in this thread?
357c57 No.16126018
>>16120587
Is the map entirely different?
357c57 No.16126020
>>16125550
Rabi Ribi looks better than Homo Knight. Everything in homo knight looks the same, dark and dreary.
b82d42 No.16126027
>>16125991
Ribi rabi is much better than it looks, i thought this was common knowledge
3b9ca6 No.16126038
>>16125997
Retardation
>>16126018
It's a new game, and I don't recognize anything aside from obvious things in the trailer I'm pretty sure they're going to use a completely different map I would not be opposed to a cameo of sorts of some old areas, but they should keep it to a minimum.
381e1c No.16126050
This looks nice. I never played the original, it just starts so badly.
f3420d No.16126052
inb4 the autist who complains about the white tower
>>16124486
>>16124859
I got a good dose of this in Stranger in a Strange Land and Friday then stopped reading his work. He's still one of my favorite HSF writers with Starship Troopers and Puppet Masters.
f9a0ce No.16126096
>>16126050
What about the start did you not like? I thought it was slow but inviting.
>>16125993
He's likely the same faggot who started screeching about Hollow Knight having bad bosses because he didn't know the nail could be upgraded. Don't feed him any (you)s.
The real problem is that mods can see samefags even through ID hops, and they do nothing about it.
530ec4 No.16126132
>>16122172
>"I hope the Risk of Rain sequel turns out well as well."
Please G-d. let it happen
563b4f No.16126159
>>16124175
>you can't criticize because fictional
Yes, I have discernment and imagination with regards to specific aspects the games I play and their verisimilitude.
3b9ca6 No.16134532
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
They released a video 3 days ago telling a few details about the game
>Hollow Knight's theme was about descension into the abyss, Silksong is going to be about ascension to the throne/citadel
>Plot is figuring out why Hornet was brought to life, something something
>Describes Hornet's gameplay as more flowy, with mroe momentum and stuff
>Mentions that feels that she has potential for really strange sequence breaks
>Game has quest log
>Same composer as in the first game
>Main powers of the world are "Silk" and "Song"
>NG+/hard mode or something
Guy on the left has mad sanpaku eyes at times
a6db97 No.16134551
>>16126132
>G-d
I hope it turns out to be dogshit, because fuck you moshe that's why.
cd6261 No.16135141
>>16134532
The trailer alone did look a lot more bright, lively, and whimsical than the first game did. Though I'd still expect some darker materials here and there, and I bet the ending is going to be fucked up.
3b9ca6 No.16135321
>>16135141
Well we already know that Hornet was made as an offering from the pale king to that beast-bug guardian of the final boss area, maybe they're going to play that story but with a twist or something like that. Wait, this doesn't take place after radiance was defeated or somethi8ng like that, doesn't it? I'm intrigued as fuck.
48f627 No.16135350
>pixelshit
>muh strong womyn mc
and another dev gets pozzed. dropped
190e53 No.16135376
>>16135350
>do I fit in yet guys
3b9ca6 No.16135399
>>16135376
Don't even touch that bait
632fc6 No.16138209
cde83b No.16138348
>>16121374
>tfw still can't get through the white palace
88f25c No.16138388
>>16122809
>I didn’t want to cheat, and that to do so is usually looked down upon, is quite sad.
>it's sad that people look down upon cheating
inb4 they make up some newspeak like "alternative methods" to play games
<I couldn't play it as intended, so I used an alternative method to reach the end
the silver tanuki suit in SM3DW counts as an alternative method
edb0a2 No.16138530
>>16135141
according to developers its becuase hornet is the inverse of the knight
by that i mean while the knight was traveling to the deep abyss its seems hornet will br traveling to great heights
7108a2 No.16141901
>>16135321
>>16135141
wtf, how do you guys understand the lore of this game and dark souls? Shit is incomprehensible.
cac07e No.16141993
>>16135321
She was given to Herrah, and although the game doesn't provide a good reason, it's apparently implied that Herrah couldn't have a proper child of her own (something to do with becoming a Dreamer, if memory serves).
>>16141901
>ayo hol up how you wypipo muh fuggin read an sheeit
>>>/reddit/
>>>/readabooknigger/
3b9ca6 No.16142021
>>16141901
>>16141993
I hope we get wholesome bug mother/daughter bonding in the game, sounds cute
ee35f9 No.16142063
>>16125991
>cuckchanner hears of rabi ribi for the 1st time in his life
<lol is this rpg maka
I hate niggers like this.
ee35f9 No.16142071
>>16125993
>hollow knight isn't grimdark, I swaer!
>>16126096
>ignore and report him sistah
>MODS, MOOOODS
This is actually the fanbase of this shitty memegame.
f2d659 No.16142144
>>16120759
>Good Hollow knight was a good game.
>>16120966
>Good. Hollow Knight is a good game.
>>16120676
>just how much shit they crammed into it.
>>16120712
>how much free shit they crammed into it
I fucking love Hollow Knight and am very excited, but something seems fishy here.
e80b0f No.16142156
>>16142144
THE GOYIM KNOW
SHUT IT DOWN
But seriously. I'll look into it, but Hollow Knight isn't actually shilled. Look into Celeste if you want a good example of a shilled game.
f2d659 No.16142179
>>16121207
The worst I ever got was this. The thread was deleted before an answer was given, for bullshit reasons if I recall right. The only thing I can possibly think of that might cause this sperging is that the MC is an asexual agender husk in comparison to Hornet who is referred to as "the gendered one". But he talks about Shovel Knight's pozzing which was added in an update, while posting Grimm from the Grimm Troupe DLC. So it appears the parallel he is making is that the Grimm Troupe DLC somehow added pozz to Hollow Knight like Shovel Knight's mix and match pronouns update. But I can't for the life of me think of something that could even remotely be interpreted as pozzed in the Grimm Troupe. Any ideas?
f2d659 No.16142336
>>16142144
>>16142156
And another two.
>>16121288
>>16121343
>>16134551
Oy vey! This is a Jewish board goyim.
>>16122600
I enjoyed playing through the game once to do everything the right way, and then playing through again with a cheat that lets you equip unlimited charms.
>>16122809
>Doesn't revel in her accomplishment and the fact that she can overcome these challenges
>Instead removes all challenge, as if the last one she just beat was a traumatic experience
Disgusting.
>>16122629
Second image.
>>16125136
Rabi Ribi is fun, but unfortunately its character designs, character personalities, world designs, enemy designs, and story are all boring as fuck. It's still good mechanically though and that's what's most important, otherwise I'd have dropped it.
>>16125778
>Somber and depressing is the same as edgy
>>16134532
>>Plot is figuring out why Hornet was brought to life
Isn't that already explained in the original game? She's a failed version of the Hollow Knight that turned out not to be hollow. Similar to the thousands of husks in Hollow Knight's birthplace. Right?
098ee4 No.16142364
>>16142336
a failed hollow knight? I thought she was part of a deal in exchange for Herrah becoming a guardian, she would be given her own child as payment.
f2d659 No.16142394
>>16142364
I could have sworn she wasn't able to do what you can because she's "the gendered one". She wasn't hollow like the rest.
3b9ca6 No.16142516
>>16142336
It's like >>16141993 said, she was made as an offering to Herrah from the pale king. I don't think she's a hollow knight because why would you want a hollow daughteru.
ac7886 No.16142587
Best news I've heard since playing Hollow Knight.
f2d659 No.16142665
>>16142516
>why would you want a hollow daughteru.
So you could fill her with love of course.
f51441 No.16142682
>>16142336
>>16142364
>>16142394
its is all really
she was made as an offering to Herrah but because she was a child of wyrm they gried to make her a vessel as well. but she failed to the point that not only she developed an ego but she also developed gender
3b64f2 No.16142713
>>16142682
That doesn't make sense. Vessels are created out of the Void, aren't they? A child born from actual intercourse couldn't be made into a vessel.
3b9ca6 No.16142732
>>16142713
She was made as an offering. That doesn't mean that they banged to have a kid, maybe she just wanted her own cute vessel grill.
7aac43 No.16142754
>>16142732
Original Hollow Knight (who infected by Radiance) is a something same as Hornet - its not hollow and have individuality/ If you use a Dream Nail on Pure Vessel in God Sanctum (Godmaster DLC) he will say something like "Do not talk…" "Do not think…". He is just trying to hide from father (Pale king) what he is not a hollow.
689468 No.16142780
>>16142713
The white lady has dialogue if you talk to her with the defender's crest equipped that mentions the knight bears some small part of her so I think the vessels are created in some way from the pale king/white lady. Whether the king fucked the tree or they pulled some magical bs I don't know but they seemed to have made a shitton of would be vessels and left them down in the abyss where they could be influenced by the void as they developed and any that were strong enough to make it back up out of there would be candidates to seal the radiance. The original hollow knight was a failure because the pale king raised it like a son so it developed a personality and wasn't completely hollow, I suspect hornet is something similar but was allowed to develop outside of the abyss.
a95a7b No.16142840
>>16142780
If you keep talking to the White Lady before fighting Hornet the second time she'll talk about how it was her choice to bind herself there, that she did it out of guilt for her child, the Hollow Knight, failing to contain the Radiance. She might also feel guilty about all the other vessels in the same way the Pale King describes on the gates down into the abyss, but she doesn't really talk about that. Point is she stuck herself there after the fall of Hollownest. Another part besides the one you mentioned where she talks about the vessels as her creation is if you have the full Grimmchild equipped while talking to her, she'll say directly that you are her child.
After the fight with Hornet, she'll talk about how Hornet bears a resemblance to her mother and how she was birthed out of a "dalliance" between the Pale King and Herrah, meaning the Pale King did not merely build Hornet out of a vessel for Herrah but that she is a true child of Herrah.
c703a4 No.16143165
Still can not beat 4 Pillar with Pure Vessel..
190e53 No.16143448
>>16142777
checking this lucky girl
ad0fe9 No.16143461
>>16120587
inexcusable to have audio and voice clips that low quality. These fat newgrounds free portal rejects are awful.
26dbdb No.16143513
>>16142777
So, is this series worth the time?
190e53 No.16143530
>>16143513
Do you like exploring big-ass maps with slightly janky combat and platforming? Do you like moody and broody atmospheres? Do you like bugs?
79e096 No.16143601
>>16120587
>stylish movement flourishes
bcb29d No.16143674
>>16142840
So what you're saying is, the pale lady is a cuckold?
d27245 No.16143826
>>16142179
No clue. The use of gender and the term for the knight being non-gender fits for the stories elements. It isn't shoe horned in like shovel knight and actually has a reason to exist like it is. Why would a husk who's sole purpose is to be completely emotionless have a vagina or penis, or have a preference to having one or the other? As for the Grimm Troupe. Doubly no clue. Grimm might be considered asexual as he breeds purely by being born again. Which makes it no worse than how the knight is asexual, but its doubly weird because he's referred to as father in the game via hunters journal, and the way he reproduces is fucking magic.
54b1c2 No.16143896
632fc6 No.16143909
>>16143826
Salubra is basically an effeminate faggot, and the Nailmaster and Blacksmith go off to leave in solitude (gay master training), but those are fairly subtle and aren't really in there unless you go looking
a95a7b No.16143912
>>16143674
Absolutely, she even tells you she was OK with it. Maybe the room she's sealed in was her cuckshed.
c703a4 No.16143969
>>16143912
>Maybe the room she's sealed in was her cuckshed.
d27245 No.16144016
>>16143909
That's a bigger response and more damnable to what the mythical 'its pozzed' faggot was saying than grimm being the source of it. I'm sure he just saw the character art, saw it looked lightly flamboyant, then just drew the conclusion the game is pozzed like a hair trigger.
3b9ca6 No.16144020
>>16143909
I'm pretty sure Salubra is a woman
f2d659 No.16144038
>>16143909
I'm still not even sure about the gay shit. It's been a while since I played. Was there something one of them said that made it sound like they were gay? Or was it just that achievement called "happy couple", you get? It might just be one fag was in charge of the achievements and inserted this without anyone else realizing at the time, or later caring when they found out. Changing it to "happy pair" would probably just stir unnecessary controversy.
a95a7b No.16144094
>>16144038
Yeah there's not much suggesting they're a couple in game except for the Blacksmith being painted like a French girl. Take away the achievement and it would be fujoshitposting to say so. In the Nailmaster's dialogue it even says the Blacksmith reminds him of his brothers when he first arrived, so that's either pretty not gay or disturbingly ultra gay. The Blacksmith does have some pretty high praise for the Nailmaster, but it could easily be legitimate appreciation of him as an artist and as a friend. The biggest argument I can make, though, is that you can use the dream nail when the Blacksmith is being painting. That would have been the place for them to put the gay, and there isn't any.
cac07e No.16144272
>>16143909
Salubra is a fat fortune telling woman. Men's names don't usually end in "-a."
>>16144094
>In the Nailmaster's dialogue it even says the Blacksmith reminds him of his brothers when he first arrived
I didn't realize that. I'm glad to know that scene isn't actually homosexual.
190e53 No.16144310
>>16144272
>Men's names don't usually end in "-a."
Depends on the culture. Germanic and Slavic regions can have names like Sasha, Ilia, or Misha.
18650c No.16145935
I tried Hollow Knight and it's pretty much Rabi Ribi, but less Japanese. All that coming back to reach a spot you couldn't reach before, checking all walls and corners for secrets, checking every passage to fully explore every screen, constant platforming and such get really tiresome after about 10 hours.
I liked the first area because it was more about exploring and fighting and dropped it at bug area after jumping over all the damn spikes and semi-invulnerable spiders blocking every other passage.
9f8986 No.16146237
>>16145935
>I tried Hollow Knight and it's pretty much Rabi Ribi, but less Japanese.
Other than being the same "genre", both games have nothing in common.
18650c No.16146248
>>16146237
I just listed all the similarities in my post and you say there's nothing in common other that being the same genre? I'll add closed off boss rooms with bullet hell bosses and shops with upgrades to the list. Truly nothing in common, yeah? It's harder to actually come up with some differences. One I can think of is that Hollow Knight has damage based self heals instead of consumables.
22bb47 No.16146335
Kind of shame the game still has that minor graphical downgrade they introduced with the switch update. They didn't even bother explaining their reasoning behind that.
2dd716 No.16146465
>>16145935
>>16146248
That's what a metroidvania is. Sounds like it isn't your genre.
4b0e2f No.16146504
Did anyone else notice this in the trailer? Around 0:38 Hornet scuttles backwards on (at least) four legs. I took a screenshot but it's easier to see in motion.
>>16141993
Actually, I'm pretty sure that Hornet is the biological daughter of the Pale King and Herrah. The White Lady mentions that to improve relations between Hallownest and Deepnest, the Pale King had a "dalliance" with Herah to give her a royal child. Diplomacy with a capital D, as it were.
Then Hornet received combat training from the Hive, which is how she got her name.
This guy's got it >>16142840,
Hornet is NOT a failed vessel, and she isn't made of void either. She's half-spider and half… whatever the Pale King is. A Wyrm, some ancient creature that's part of Hollow Knight's pantheon of "Higher Beings" alongside the Radiance (moth goddess).
>>16145935
>All that coming back to reach a spot you couldn't reach before, checking all walls and corners for secrets, checking every passage to fully explore every screen, constant platforming and such get really tiresome after about 10 hours.
But everything you just described is fun and interesting, and is totally par for the course in the metroidvania genre. Or did you just mean that the platforming specifically is what got boring? In which case, I personally disagree, but I can understand your position a bit better. Otherwise it sounds like the genre just isn't for you.
202319 No.16146576
>>16146504
>Did anyone else notice this in the trailer? Around 0:38 Hornet scuttles backwards on (at least) four legs. I took a screenshot but it's easier to see in motion.
It's pretty cool. The creators often got questions about Hornet; if she had arms or not. They had to say her arms are just hidden under the robe she wears. Considering Herrah the Beast lived in one hell of a dangerous area (just look at the midwife), Hornet likely has more than just two arms and legs.
f2d659 No.16146588
cac07e No.16146616
>>16146504
>Then Hornet received combat training from the Hive, which is how she got her name.
I admit I wasn't that autistic about using the dream nail in the Hive, but where does the game say that?
>>16146566
Imagine.
f2d659 No.16146619
>>16146611
>Hornet upskirts
4b0e2f No.16146681
>>16146616
Strictly speaking, the dialogue lines about Hornet training under Queen Vespa (leader of the Hive) were cut from the game. However, Team Cherry has mentioned in interviews that Vespa was planned to be involved with her training and that it's still on the table. Nothing in the game contradicts this, so we can consider it soft canon until otherwise overwritten.
Silksong will almost certainly address this.
>>16146566
Your dubs are well-deserved, anon. Thanks for clipping that.
202319 No.16146795
>>16146611
>spider crawl
>upskirt shots
>double dubs
CHECKED
84a88b No.16147098
>>16143461
Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed how terrible the voice acting and audio quality is, they should try distorting the voices to make them sound more alien and to hide the bad voice acting.
9f8986 No.16147130
>sexualizing a bug
You guys are the worst.
ceaa06 No.16147147
>>16120587
I noticed how all enemys drop white strings instead of soul and another one thing:
In 0:53 look on strings on background.
On 0:57-0:57 you can see how giant puppet controlled by strings
If i remember rights Weavers bind strings with soul in a same way as Pale King use them to bind Void from a Abyss with soul to crate vessels. Also you can notice how Void vessels stops attacking you they you totally turn King Brand with Void.
From a start of the trailer you can see "bell" capes on a bugs. Bell cult against strings? Or they being controlled by strings to?
7ad85d No.16147165
9f8986 No.16147353
c9b5c1 No.16148084
>>16123347
>>16124175
Last place I'd heard this was Game Theory which declared that indeed women have slower reaction times than men on average according to numerous studies over the years. It was the basis for his theory that we have scantily clad women in fightan games because mens' reaction times go down when they see titties so it evens the playing field. I never looked into it, but I think this was before his channel went to shit/ became shittier and it makes sense since women are less physically apt than men.
e213c8 No.16148149
Good, Hollow Knight is a good game.
6738e3 No.16148265
>>16146504
>>16146566
I think she's just using her arms. Grimm does the same thing.
190e53 No.16148300
>>16148265
Then that just means she has spider legs for arms.
7ad85d No.16149072
>>16148265
Then what is she holding the needle with? It's below her head, so it's not her mouth.
072460 No.16149074
>>16149072
It's a needle so probably through her cape.
9ef1b5 No.16149083
>>16147906
Better version of that first image.
4c2876 No.16149091
d4476e No.16149117
>>16120587
I want to fuck that bug
7ad85d No.16149238
>>16142156
>Hollow Knight isn't actually shilled
>OP posted a direct youtube link
Also, another one >>16148149
ac7886 No.16149468
>>16149238
Invidious links don't work very well, at least not a single embed has ever worked for me.
f96283 No.16149528
>>16143826
burning the old generations for the sake of the new one is the most antikike thing in the world
kikes are all about burining the new generations to prolongue their old noses
b1e0e8 No.16149575
>>16142713
That doesn't make sense. Vessels are created out of the Void, aren't they? A child born from actual intercourse couldn't be made into a vessel.
all the vassels were created by intercourse between the wyrm and the white lady. what do you think the wyrm meant with
>no sacrifice is too great
wyrm sacrificed thousands if not millions of his offspring sou he could create the perfect vessel.
b1e0e8 No.16149590
>>16143674
well her score is thousands (vessels) against 1 (hornet) but yes
ce0031 No.16149669
>>16149083
I wish Hollow Knight looked like this.
302542 No.16152954
dda810 No.16158862
>>16149468
I've only ever opened them in new tabs because I'm not a lazy faggot who likes watching them in 240p. If the problems persist, it might be a browser compatibility problem.
>>16149575
>all the vassels were created by intercourse between the wyrm and the white lady
My memory must be going. When and where was this stated? I thought they were formed magically, then filled with abyssal goo.
aa8413 No.16160238
>>16149575
> Vessels are created out of the Void, aren't they?
King binds Void Ink with soul because its deformed for reasons.
30ec11 No.16181215
>>16120644
It's a different hive, but beyond that, who knows.
d41245 No.16181307
>>16120644
>Those new movement abilities look great.
It will be fun to spend 30 hours eating shit, before you get them and the game is basically over.
ae2794 No.16181370
>>16142179
I think there's like one gay couple in game but that's all I can think of. Methinks these dudes just see shitty Tumblr art with homo undertones and think the game is actually like that
ae2794 No.16181383
>>16148300
Isn't Hornet's mom like a spider god or something? I don't fully understand Hollow Knight lore yet but it would make perfect sense
cac07e No.16181745
>>16181198
Looks like some kind of mummy; makes me wonder if there will be a greater emphasis on having very obviously different cultures and societies, since HK was mostly discovering a single, large, dead kingdom.
>>16181370
Read the fucking thread.
e3b0f7 No.16181933
>>16158862
I think it's from what the White Lady says.
>There is some shame I feel from my own part in the deed, and this method guarantees it cease.
>I still feel that urge you see. I always will. A voracious desire to spread seeds upon the land, to propagate myself, to breed.
3cec00 No.16183929
>>16181745
>Looks like some kind of mummy
Its a God Seer and protagonist.
3cec00 No.16185255
Nevermind just keeping thread alive.
b1e0e8 No.16185263
>>16181933
this
also some people speculated the sphere you find at the bottom of the abyss is the egg where the vessels hatched from (dont know how i feel about this thought).