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>>16118853

one warrior

one black

one white

and either one red/warrior/rogue

OP I don't know what the fuck your talking about, but it sounds gay.

>>16118878

You will die like a dog in the streets.

>>16118884

It's a hack that rebalances the game, but also allows you to pick from 12 classes instead of 6. Each class was basically split into magic and physical-oriented versions of themselves that use the sprites of the upgraded classes. For example, a Battlemage is a Black Mage that can wear heavy armor and use swords and axes, but he's really slow and has lower HP, MP, and INT.

So the Hack makes it like it originally is?

>>16118968

I've looked around, but I haven't found any. It's why I went with the GBA version again. There are a ton for the NES, though, if you want a different flavor.

>>16118991

It's pretty rough in the early game, especially if you're buying spells. Monsters drop way less money now, but the gil in chests were mostly unchanged. The shops were changed though, so as early as Elfheim you can buy some really good weapons and armor for tens of thousands of gil. There are some new spells as well, including some Monk/Master and Ninja ones. They're not too great, but they are fun.

I'm doing a full retard run right now with Warrior/Master/Rogue/Ninja. Nobody can heal and only the Ninja is really capable of casting offensive magic. The Master can buff himself and debuff enemies, though. His MP is pathetic, so he can't do it much.

I played FF2 with it. It was a great experience.

I don't see the point of difficulty mods like this, JRPGs are more about stats than tactics so all you're doing is increasing the grind. There's challenge runs where you hack the game to get 0 XP but that's more about finding that an oversight the developers didn't notice, usually an item, spell, or ability that isn't dependent on your level, and abusing it all the way to the end with little variety.

>>16118853

>>16118968

That's one fine looking 'man'.

>>16120656

Stats are just the way to brute force your way through the game if you don't actually want to play it. It's like picking 4 Fighters and wondering why you're not having that much fun.

>>16122612

That's clearly wish-fulfillment fanart.

>>16118853

I believe I have played a wonderswan port for j2me and I believe it was pretty balanced tbh. Don't see the need for any mod to fix the balance unless GBA version was casualized to the ground. From what you are describing it might be the case of what >>16120656 is describing.

>>16123842

You've missed the point.

>>16123885

The GBA version is explicitly the easy version from the PS1 remake, but you can't pick the normal difficulty. It conjunction with all the bugs being fixed, it's far easier than the original.

>>16123909

Why not play the PS1 remake then instead?

>>16123918

Because I've already beaten the game several times and I want something fresh? Why are you questioning my intentions? I know what I'm doing.

>>16123924

>Because I've already beaten the game several times and I want something fresh?

Play another game then?

>Why are you questioning my intentions?

Because I don't see the point of beating the game several times, then go for a balance patch of a casualized port and then somehow make it the focal point of the thread, when in CY+deviation from CY not that many even played the game by itself.

And that's ignoring the fact that FF1 is basic and everyone who is into jrpgs has pretty much experienced most of it through other games, due to how everyone copied the formula since the game came out.

>>16123958

Then just let the thread die and don't post in it. You could try and branch out into other games in the series to maintain the conversation, or you could stop posting. It's a pretty natural progression of things.

>>16123970

>asks a question

>gets an answer

>m8, you could just not post in the thread u kno?

wot

>You could try and branch out into other games in the series to maintain the conversation

Not really seeing how misdirected the OP post is and even then, the only other game in the series I've played is FF2 WS J2ME port and the game was steaming hot garbage, couldn't get past the initial third of the game.

I downloaded this mod a while back but didn't actually get to play it roll a party for me. Did play the FFV custom classes mod by the same creator, though. Pretty fun doing job challenges on it, just wish he made the game a bit harder.

>>16120656

>japanese roleplaying games are more about stats than tactics

This makes no sense. Are you sure this is a roleplaying game?

>>16124009

Just roll 4d12 and stick with it. Here's the order of classes from the mod page:

>Knight

>Rogue

>Master

>Paladin

>Ninja

>Ranger

>Enchanter

>Battlemage

>Monk

>Priest

>Archmage

>Sage

>>16124066

FF1 is arguably the closest to a roleplaying game the series ever gets, since they immediately started taking away player agency in favor of more pre-determined characters, stories, and dialogue. FF1 is the only one in the series with any degree of nonlinearity, since you can go anywhere as soon as you beat the Lich. It's very worth diving into the later dungeons early on in order to pick up some choice gear, but the monsters are very likely to fuck you in the ass. It's more choice than you get in the rest of the series. The very beginning and the very end are fairly linear, though.

>>16123958

>Play another game then?

Why?

>>16123842

Brute forcing would make more sense if these games weren't inherently stat-driven. At least the super mario rpgs let you manually dodge attacks.

>>16127511

That's part of why I'm doing a no healing magic run. I had to beeline for the Priest Staff at level 17 so I could have the Ninja heal the party to save on all the potions I was spamming to get through dungeons. 99 potions was usually enough, though. The Citadel of Trials was so fucked that I had to port out as soon as I got the staff, I had to come back 5 levels later to get the rat tail.

I don't know any JRPGs I can do something similar in nowadays.

>>16127740

cheeky cunt

>>16127727

I always thought FF1's was a man until the remakes made it look more feminine. Mainly because in other games, you'd see men with the hood off and women and children with the hood on, so I figured the white mage just grew up after class-changing and started looking like Jesus or something.

>>16127806

That's just your usual Squeenix revisionist bullshit, like how FF2 and FF4 are connected. You can safely ignore it and play it like it was intended. The white mage is a fucking man in FF1, period. Maybe he's bishoujo, but that's it.

>>16118888

Impressive

>>16127906

>Shekel Shuffle

>Not 「「「Through Heaven's Eyes」」」 from The Prince of Egypt

>>16143535

I fucking love the cro-magnon brows all the upgraded classes originally had, fuck the anime style of the PSP version. You knew you were playing MEN, not cartoon adventurers.

>>16143586

The general style of the remakes (dating all the way back to WSC) has problems, but more specifically Knight, White Wizard, and Black Wizard got screwed over the hardest.In NES FFI Knight looks like the pinnacle of a man, in the remakes he looks like a fag with a cape. The wizards in NES FFI both take off their hoods. The black wizard looks like a powerful evil sorcerer and the white wizard looks great too. These styles are just totally lost, the wizards just get fancier robes in the remakes and the black wizard's face is covered because no one dared to suggest they should go off of what had become the "brand" of the black mage.

>>16143859

Those new sprites for the iphone or whatever modern remakes are fucking atrocious. Never saw them for more than a couple glances before and I'd rather not see them ever again. Ignoring the more general changes to the advanced classes, I honestly like monk's redesign for WSC, even if it doesn't hit at the idea of "karate man" as well as before. Maybe it helps that GBA/PSP/etc have a much longer endgame that lets the stats of the Master actually get shown off since by the time Black Belt becomes better than Knight in NES you should be killing Chaos.

>>16143906

It's worth noting that the bonus dungeons of the GBA and PSP are kind of bullshit. Not mostly, there are some good floors in there, but I swear some of them were designed to be as frustrating and tedious as possible. That goddamn invisible maze comes to mind, that was worse than the Amala Labyrinth.

>>16118853

>The white mage is a man you fucking faggots.

more like a sissy bitch. i bet he sucks dick like a good sissy.

>>16124009

I've just about finished with his FF5 mod. It's a bit confusing. He claims that his mod makes passives carry over regardless of class, but only a few passives actually do.

Also the random encounter rate seems extremely high. Even though I've used Flee and Teleport liberally I'm already level 63.

>>16118853

sage

>>16157465

I didn't find the random encounter rate was higher than vanilla, but you do get more xp since bosses actually yield a lot. 63 seems excessively overleveled though. Also yeah, not 100% of passives carry over, Berserk doesn't for example. Also you need to have actually mastered the class for the passives to carry over.

>>16158107

Ability Point Bonus doesn't carry, Equip ribbon/sword/bow doesn't carry. I did master the relevant classes. Not sure about +30% hp/mp. Fortunately the thief and geomancer passives carry.

In some dungeons I ran from every battle and still spent more time in battle than walking. That seems really screwy.

>>16158203

I see. You seem to have actually played it more than me, so I can't say anything. Random encounter rate is hard to know without looking into the code though

>>16118853

I WROTE THE FUCKING REVIEW YOU SMARTASS

>>16158519

What fucking review? Who the fuck do you think you are?