6bf1dd No.16112415
What are some games with good end games?
I got to thinking with the new Civ 6 global warming DLC, which is an attempt to add in global warming as a final boss to the game. It's really bad because 90% of it is done through a "world congress" and only big bad meanie racist war mongering >:( countries are affected by pro-climate decrees, without it harming capitalist societies' ability to industrialize and modernize. Alpha Centarui did it well in this regard, where the one "sane"/capitalist and UN factions were the most adversely affected by climate change policies whereas the crazier cult/war factions either weren't affected or benefited, making the no climate change edicts a difficult decision even as society evolved away from fossil fuels and on-planet extraction.
Another example is Railroad Tycoon 3, which introduces recycling plants in the late game (1990s) which serve as free money generators when placed within cities, which begin producing "waste" in addition to demanding resources. It's a nice way of flipping everything on it's head, because a successful recycling plant can screw up existing industry chains by causing factories to accept materials from them instead of mines.
Simcity 4 also marginally deals with the issue in the form of landfills, but this is solved with either waste-to-energy incinerators or trucking it to a different city. I always thought it was funny how money and people could move across borders in Simcity but not pollution. Also Simcity 4 and Simcity 3000 both had hi-tech industry as the hardest to get development, with the latter having "'SimMars Research and Testing Facility" as one of the most difficult buildings to get (based upon it's minimum spawn requirements) which is obviously a reference to the unreleased simmars game (which itself says a lot I think lol).
ef1b86 No.16112431
Imagine actually playing Civ 6.
cf6799 No.16112978
>raising sea levels in SMAC through the UN Council just to fuck with Yang and Miriam
Good times
5653b7 No.16113022
Why would you buy Civ6 in the first place? They marketing machine was pumping their female developers and have such amazing and inspiring quotes in-game from lead female scientists like "There's no WiFi on top of Mt something." Funny though how they shoehorned global warming into a DLC.
There was a thread here on Alpha Centauri the other day. Great stuff. Making me want to play again. The concept of having to deal with a rising threat at end game is interesting, but depends on execution and amount of moral browbeating involved. Didn't Civ2 or Civ3 have pollution start forming around your cities until you could start building recycling plants and alternative energy plants? Hoover Dam such a great wonder.
b135ac No.16113047
>>16112415
don't play garbage civ after VI, maybe get V for the stellar leader models
other than that, the end game for Advance Wars 1 and 2 will always resonate with me, AW1 had a bullshit final boss that you're just meant to lose units to and AW2 throws literally everything it has at you and only by exploiting the AI's build priorities can you even attempt to beat it.
5653b7 No.16113053
>>16113027
Its one of those things. Company X puts out Product A that is waving the female-empowerment flag and all the clickbait media outlets are running their smear campaign against gamers who were heavily invested in the franchise. Game might be enjoyable, but at the end of the day, you just gave money to them. The choice is ultimately yours and I really don't care what you as an individual do, but I wouldn't support them.
5d2932 No.16113079
a421dc No.16113082
>>16113027
Sorry it just isn't.
5653b7 No.16113087
>>16113062
Game is good! I buy.
160004 No.16113090
The battle network series
Pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of the sky
Final fantasy tactics A2
c9dbd0 No.16113100
>>16112978
SMAC was the original SJW fagfest
25675b No.16113102
The nu-XCOM games' end games are hilarious in that they're so busted and your troops can effortlessly trample any and all ayys you encounter
dfe1b4 No.16113119
>>16113022
Civ4 replaced pollution with Health. Shit kicked the fan whe you made factories and coal power plants, some of my cities actually lost production but not directly: population was actually lost in the cities because migrations/deaths which meant less people getting food or working at the factories.
>>16113027
Fuck Civ 6.
Civ5 with Brave New World was still inferior to Beyond the Sword.
I liked archeology and the new congress/UN thing but diplomacy in civ4 was still better.
I have seen what civ6 is about, I'm not giving more cash to Firaxis.
9c3928 No.16113156
Stellaris has an interesting idea with threats that can destroy every civ spawn at a certain point.
However, they're handled to so poorly (like the rest of the game) that it's a shame. I'm sure there's a mod to fix it out there, but fuck paradox.
>only one threat at a time
>AI just stops all wars and allies with every civ even if they're diametrically opposed
>AI does nothing to attack the threat just gets pushed back more and more
>AI doesn't build defenses in smart places (something even older titles have done).
>threats attack the same place time and time again making them predictable as soon as you get a handle on them.
God fuck stellaris
0ff100 No.16113211
>>16113062
So wait, do you know how good the game is before you buy it? Because if you don't, that makes you a gigantic fuckwad. And if you pirate games to try them first, that doesn't really make you any different from the rest of the board, despite the "don't buy anything" memes.
5653b7 No.16113259
>>16113211
He listens to "reviews" and buys based on their guidance. Tunes out the insults to his character and general existence since they have no impact on the game or direction of companies, obviously.
0ff100 No.16113295
>>16113156
Sword of the Stars has some very cool game ending events. The only problem is that they tend towards exactly that, ending the game with no survivors, although they are fun to fight. There's also an interstellar patrol force that appears maybe one time, and the moment they do everyone has to stop all warfare immediately or you get targeted by a fleet-sized UFO with top tier tech. That one is more funny than anything else.
7a7560 No.16113382
>>16113295
That one was a very explicit reference to The Day The Earth Stood Still.
There is also the Von Neumanns, who build a planet killer if they gather enough resources; the System Killer who can turn up randomly; the Locust Hiveworld and a AI rebellion can really fuck your shit if it happens.
c9dbd0 No.16113481
>>16113062
So you're a retard
e56f65 No.16113520
>>16113087
THE GAME IS GOOD
THE GAME IS GOOD
THE PENIS IS EVIL
THE PENIS IS EVIL
cf6799 No.16114153
>>16113100
nigger
HOW
you can genocide other people for being inferior using mind worms and bombs so powerful they change rainfall patterns
0f0796 No.16114250
>>16113119
All they had to do was make Civ 4 with faster production and no stacks of doom
cb3ee9 No.16114259
shouldnt it be called late game. im mean if your still playing the game then its not the end game. even gaming near the end would be better
910f11 No.16114264
>>16113100
Of course SMAC has an eco-terrorism-proto-SJW faction, it's all about exaggerated ideologies and not having it, or not presenting it as a choice like any other would be a sin.
5653b7 No.16115927
>>16113520
Was looking through my old /v/ archives for a specific 00's MSPaint. It's the one of the fatguy who's watching G4 on tv and the host says something like "Be like this to get girls". The fatguy gets excited, goes and gets a fauxhawk haircut, then last panel is him at gamestop ordering the game they were shilling. Any of you have it? Can't find it for the life of me. I don't think he had a Fatlas shirt on originally… but not sure.
Also in b4
>What's G4? What's tv?
83d1be No.16116127
No other strategy game has emulated the joy of Planet Busters, the super nukes in SMAC. The default name is appropriate. Especially if you upgrade the reactors, you get to remove a massive area of landmass with them.
6c021a No.16116188
>>16113295
>try to build cruiser while patroller is in system.
>he comes and deletes it
The swarms are a pain in the ass too. I would love a game night with anons with this.
0e0fa0 No.16116194
>>16113027
>it's a good game tbqh
>t. person that never played a Civ other than maybe vanilla 5
c9dbd0 No.16116237
>>16114153
>>16114264
Do you see a white man anywhere here? Morgan industries is a flat out negroid
d1bffe No.16116943
>>16113100
I don't recall any part of it attempting to reduce politics to nazis vs commies. If you're referring to the ethnic diversity of factions you should have said civilization for the same reason.
000000 No.16116959
there is literally nothing wrong with civ 6
don't spend any money on it tho
c9fdaa No.16118659
>>16117040
This is a UN mission we're talking about. There's no way they wouldn't make it a diversity festival.
a082be No.16118681
Global warming is new to Civilization series? Did they get rid of it after Civ2 or something and finally add it back in?
cf6799 No.16118719
>>16116237
ZAKHAROV IS HUWYTE
retard
>>16118695
>They would have been wiped out long before the earth became uninhabitable. Nobody is going to allow groids to take up precious resources when things get that bad, and they are completely incapable of preventing their own extinction.
CEO Morgan bought his way on board fair and square you fucking drone
5d2932 No.16118720
>>16114259
I think the term originates from chess, but am not certain. If memory serves there are 3 stages to an average chess game. As the game moves through those stages certain strategies become more or less useful. Endgame describes that final stage where one or both sides have suffered serious losses.
cf6799 No.16119248
>>16118929
>he hasn't read the manual
>he thinks niggers were smart enough to remove themselves once Earth went to shit
>he thinks the African megacapitalist wouldn't try to gtfo once shit hits the fan
cf6799 No.16119268
>>16119264
I dunno, I'm able to fucking play the game. You obviously aren't, because you don't know jack shit about the
deep lore
a082be No.16119290
"Endgame" in most strategy games is complete shit because it becomes a micromanagement slog. Even games that have professed to recognize the problem of micromanagement have still been unable to prevent it.
cf6799 No.16119319
>>16119301
What the fuck would kill all the negroes then, bigbrain smartman?
cf6799 No.16119357
>>16119339
There would be too many of them in Africa, and the other countries would be at least
>failing economically
>failing socially
>possibly torn apart by civil war
There'd be no justification for a nigger-killing safari.
cf6799 No.16119396
>>16119375
>lol time for overseas expedition when Atlanta and San Francisco are constantly on fire
cf6799 No.16119449
>>16119421
Food riots and government crackdowns.
>As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he deems himself your master.
— Comissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"
cf6799 No.16119501
>>16119476
>There would be no groids or poos, the races capable of producing advanced technology would eliminate the lesser races to consume their resources.
lol no, Russia fucking collapses and Europe shatters, America catches fire and Africa starves.
But none of that matters, it's not on Planet.
20b068 No.16119638
Simcity 2000, the endgame was for you to build a ton of archologies and launch them into space.
cf6799 No.16119640
>>16119562
>powerful people in the US
They'd be more concerned with keeping the country together than designating dead nigger storage.
Also, none of this is on Planet, so it doesn't fucking matter to the mission.
cf6799 No.16119651
>>16119638
I miss the Windows version of SC2K.
83d1be No.16123088
>>16123048
You people are not "liberal", commie. Now go back to leftypol or r/politics.
6f3ce6 No.16123125
>>16112415
About Civ 6, Firaxis updated their EULA to include the following.:
"The information we collect may include personal information such as your first and/or last name, e-mail address, phone number, photo, mailing address, geolocation, or payment information. In addition, we may collect your age, gender, date of birth, zip code, hardware configuration, console ID, software products played, survey data, purchases, IP address and the systems you have played on. We may combine the information with your personal information and across other computers or devices that you may use."
It's getting reviewed bombed to hell.
befb6a No.16125309
>>16112415
Morgan wasn't the only sane leader
>>16112978
>not lowering sea level to fuck Sven and get more solar panel output
7e090a No.16125765
>>16119248
Morgan probably did what his ancestors did in the past. Sell out his fellow niggers out to the kikes for money. Most of the slave traders then were niggers and jews because nobody is going to bother go out in the wild bunga bunga land catching niggers in niggerland but them.
aec1d8 No.16130212
>>16116237
The expansion brings in Domai, and Ulric adding much needed diversity.
>CEO Morgan bought his way on board fair and square you fucking drone
No, he was not supposed to be aboard, he doesn't really have any skills the colony mission wanted, but made sure he was on the ship anyway.
562744 No.16130743
>>16113156
>>AI does nothing to attack the threat just gets pushed back more and more
It's been a few months since I played that shitfest, but this isn't even the worst part. The worst part is the absence of balance. I got an end-game crisis relatively early (they can be triggered by AI doing bullshit) and even a single one of their attack fleets (they had multiple of them and could make more) had more military power than the entire rest of the galaxy combined. It was literally impossible to survive.
26b2b0 No.16130806
>>16130743
Which one did you get? Because each one triggers a bullshit mary sue faction appearing to fight them
f886ad No.16130881
>>16113211
>and if you pirate games to try them first, that doesn't really make you any different from the rest of the board
The butthurt generated from his decision to prioritise gameplay over politics seem to suggest otherwise.
2a2d86 No.16131229
>>16130212
He gave the mission what it badly needed, something that the program desperately needed.
The money to launch the fucking ship in the first place.
815219 No.16131295
>>16119651
it still works though
815219 No.16131300
>>16119705
>implying America doesn't collapse from being flooded by spics
25dad9 No.16131349
>>16116237
SMAC is pozzed as fuck so I always found it funny that people here praised the fuck out of it.
aec1d8 No.16131357
>>16131300
That is why Sister Miriam comes from the Christian States of America.
>>16131229
He and Santiago were still both stowaways on it according to the lore.
ebbbe5 No.16131398
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>>16112431
What's wrong with Civ 6 anon? It has the superior Cleopatra…
0e7b44 No.16131463
>>16123125
>That entire fucking list
I'm surprised they didn't straight up say they're selling your credit card number to the highest bidder.
7b86cf No.16131493
>>16131398
>tfw you will never see Cleopatra use her bee vibrator
48f090 No.16131495
>>16112415
>(((global warming)))
b693de No.16131505
>>16131398
The Ptolemies were the Egyptian equivalent of Jews. Great Menes frowns upon the idea that his unification of Upper and Lower Egypt will forever be remembered under the guise of an inbred lecherous foreign whore and a lover of Nubians.
fb08c9 No.16131537
>>16130212
From what i recall, all the Faction leaders had a management role in the ship, Miriam was the responsible of wellfare and Health, Santiago was like a Head of Security, Chairman was the second in command (like a Head of Personnel, i am just comparing them to SS13 head jobs), i cant remember the rest.
ca0140 No.16131542
>>16131495
civilization has had global warming since the first game. it turned everything into fucking swamp.
ebbbe5 No.16131570
>>16131505
Do you have any source, duodec-nigger?
ede670 No.16131595
>>16131542
We're just hitting the bottom of the barrel with AAA games, seeing as they're now trying to shill themselves based on the inclusion of features that have literally been around for at least 30 years.
4b981c No.16131601
The end game of Endless Space 2 involves shooting super weapons that blow up entire solar systems and building shields to protect yourself from the super weapons.
b693de No.16131751
>>16131570
>foreigners invade a nation
>instate themselves as the rulers
>make utter mockeries of the nations ways
>breed amongst their own kin, for fear of tainting their bloodline with that of the noble nomarch goyim
>turn the whole of the land into a whore, its people into slaves, prostitutes and dancing boys
>sell the ruinous kingdom and all its impoverished goyim out to the highest bidder
574584 No.16131831
>>16131601
behemoths were a massive mistake
ebbbe5 No.16131967
>>16131751
>foreigners invade a nation
>instate themselves as rulers
Nigger, I'm not even going to debate you if you're equating Alexander the Great to fucking jews.
>Make utter mockeries of the nations ways
Are you mentally defective?
>breed amongst their own
>jews
Pick one, and only one.
>turn the whole of the land into a whore, its people into slaves, prostitutes and dancing boys
Wrong empire, Chaim.
>sell the ruinous kingdom and all its impoverished goyim out to the highest bidder
By that argument you'r equating Rome to jews as well.
b693de No.16132018
>>16131967
>implying the Ptolemies were descended from Alexander the Great
Alexander the Great was heralded by the Egyptians for freeing them of Persian rule. Ptolemy was not Alexander the Great. The Egyptians celebrated Alexander, they staged numerous rebellions against the Ptolemaic infidels.
>Are you mentally defective?
They quite literally did. Where Alexander kept in line with Egyptian king worship, Ptolemy and his putrid spawn created false gods to forever immortalize themselves, rather than the spirit of the God King.
>implying Jews aren't inbreeders
Jews are the most inbred of all the races.
>Wrong empire, Chaim
None of the natives enjoyed Ptolemaic rule, they were being replaced by foreigners from across the land, not just Greeks, but Persians, Hebrews, Italics and more. Their revolts were stamped out by the mercenaries, hired from across the known world to trample upon any sense of the Egyptian soul. These mercenaries included Hebrews. The Ptolemaic rulers saw the Egyptians and their ancient faith as curiosities, and kept them as we keep lapdogs today. Egypt under the Ptolemies was an enslaved whore, whose body was sold to all nations, whose children were.
>By that argument you'r equating Rome to jews as well.
Rome used Egypt as a backwater breadbasket and nothing more. Certainly not a fitting end for the sons of Amun.
5ab808 No.16132274
>>16115927
>not instantly getting Grindan Adventure
Final Faggotry CLXII is garbage. The series went to shit after CLVI.
ebbbe5 No.16134127
>>16132018
>Jews are the most inbred of all the races.
Correct, but that isn't mutually exclusive with your assertion. They also have a reputation of chronic miscegenators. They practice whatever breeding methods are most advantageous to them at the time, especially in the time in question.
>None of the natives enjoyed Ptolemaic rule, they were being replaced by foreigners from across the land, not just Greeks, but Persians, Hebrews, Italics and more.
How can your assertion be true if they were all segregated?
>Rome used …
That sidesteps the initial point I was countering, which was about Egypt selling slaves. You're implying Rome didn't?
79c7f8 No.16151649
Killing DIABLO…… quickly.
385643 No.16151715
>>16113295
>>16113382
They can all be taken out if you build proper ships and use proper tactics.
You don't really need endgame tech to beat them, but it helps. And it's not easy either.
For the system killer, DPS is all that mattters. Gather the biggest ships you can find with as many lances and torpedos. Interceptig it in space and damaging it to make the battle easier is also reccomneded. Humans have trouble doin that though.
For locusts, you want some hefty PD and group your ships.
Long-range weapons are always preferable. I personally spam photon torpedos. They might be dumbfire, but againt targets that big and slow they WILL hit, and they have a hulluva range.
9ac98b No.16151805
>>16113382
>>16151715
>AI rebellion
As tempting as AI is, you can always choose to avoid that path. It is a high risk, high reward tech.
The system killer is also a pretty blatant reference or copy of a thing in the original Star Trek. I can't remember what it was called, but the design and general unknown weapon from some ancient war that destroys systems/planets was in Trek. It is also a bit painful to deal with as the Hivers because intercepting it in deep space never worked for me.
The main issue with them is that the tech/build vs counter-tech/build way combat works in SotS ends up fucking you in the ass if you are knee deep in a war producing ships to deal with, or follow, a specific strategy against an enemy empire and one of those assholes shows up and you need to start to switch up what you were doing to deal with that before things get out of hand. Locust in particular will cause huge issues if you let them grow out of hand because the fuckers don't leave.
179c95 No.16151851
>>16131349
The beauty of SMAC is that the game doesn't pretend any of the leaders are good people. In fact, pretty much all of them are complete and utter monsters.
I wonder just how much butthurt would be generated if someone made a mod that whitewashed the leaders.
385643 No.16151858
>>16151805
Most grand menaces don't leave.
IIRC, the Peacekeeper leaves after a while, and the System Killer can also leave.
Otehr don't.
And yeah, Locusts are terrible because they strip mine planets, fucking up your economy big time AND create more hive ships.
9ac98b No.16152764
>>16151858
If its just a single System Killer and not a Von Nuemann homeworld pumping them out, it will just carve a path through the map and then leave. If you are playing on the largest map settings possible, Locust and Von Nuemann homeworlds become very scary prospects, because the empires on the other side of the map could completely fuck up dealing with them. Locust at least move pretty slowly, but iirc, Von Nuemann can attack anywhere any time, so you might be feeding their production lines every time you fail to fend them off.