20f7a9 No.16095193
SOFTBANK PULLS OUT, SELLING IT'S STOCK WORTH $3.6 BILLION DOLLERYDOOS
https://archive.is/ifzuH
>Nvidia is facing the end of yet another troubled week as SoftBank's Vision Fund announced the sale of its entire $3.6 Billion stake in the company.
>The Vision Fund is a $100 Billion fund established in 2016 and has invested in companies such as Uber , with its stake in Nvidia acquired in 2017 when the chip maker's share prices were on the rise in part thanks to cryptocurrency mining, while also on the verge of significant AI tech and deep learning announcements - an area the Vision Fund is particularly keen on.
>Citing the deterioration of Nvidia's share price as the primary reason for the sale (worth just under $290 in October and currently trading at $146), the blow comes following Nvidia itself citing the Chinese slow down for its recent poor performance.
>Other issues have blighted the company in recent months, with the cryptocurrency market flagging for most of 2018 and miners of currencies such as Ethereum ending their mass purchasing of Nvidia graphics cards, with models such as the GeForce GTX 1060 a particular favorite thanks to its efficiency. AMD has been in the same boat, however, and the result of this is often a flood of second-hand graphics cards hitting auction sites with a knock-on effect on sales of new cards.
c26588 No.16095212
>>16095193
That's for making GPUs cost as much as a full rig.
4b76a3 No.16095216
>the blow comes following Nvidia itself citing the Chinese slow down for its recent poor performance.
Maybe it came from the fact that you are trying standardize $600 graphics cards, you fucking mongoloids? You pushed too fucking far with a shitty gimmick and you didn't sell a thing as a result. Nvidia deserves all of it.
ad3979 No.16095222
Is this going to make their prices tank?
9877fe No.16095223
>>16095216
and its not like cell phones where you can charge $1,300 for a new one OR sign a 3-5 year contract for $250.
c26588 No.16095229
>>16095216
It's also because AMD just can't get their shit together GPU wise that nvidia can get away with being such kikes.
0dd30b No.16095237
>>16095193
>falling for the crypto meme for any reason
They practically begged to get B O G G E D.
9be69f No.16095241
>>16095193
>We can just rely on the market of faggotcoin miners of the volatile cryptocurrency market to give us money! while continuing to piss off the gaming market with absurd prices and shitty out of the factory unoptimize cards!
Fuck you Jewvidia
439072 No.16095259
>>16095222
The prices of their stocks? Sure. The prices of the GPUs? Very unlikely, considering that AMD has decided to follow their example on the pricing of their new GPUs. Heck, Nvidia might even increase their prices again.
4b76a3 No.16095272
>>16095259
>Very unlikely, considering that AMD has decided to follow their example on the pricing of their new GPUs
*GPU
There is no multiple, and Radeon VII is expensive because it has 16 gigabytes of HBM2 at RTX 2080 performance and probably way better professional workload and compute performance. HBM2 is not cheap.
8ac91f No.16095308
>>16095193
>citing the Chinese slow down
Shocking no one, investing in the bug market backfired immensely. Investing in the meme of crypto currency (monopoly money that you get by spending monopoly money) backfired immensely. And pushing for real-time ray tracing before it's ready to become a standard feature in games backfired immensely.
Meanwhile I got an RX480 for $200 and it still runs everything I've played on it really well.
ae65cd No.16095333
There was absolutely no point in getting anything better/more expensive than a 6 gig 1060, unless you fell for the 4k meme, which is another wallet obliterator on it's own. I genuinely can't see how Nvidia thought a new line of cards that were barely faster than the last gen were going to turn a profit.
d87994 No.16095334
Didn't AMD drop its prices recently too? I was shopping around and I could have sworn their cards were cheap as fuck.
eb35fb No.16095336
>>16095308
I have a proprietory card modified to fake being an AMD Radeon HD 7570. So far only games like Brigadier or Elex have given me any problems. Kingdom Come killed my CPU though.
c26588 No.16095341
>>16095313
>>16095313
>Quadros
They've been cannibalised by the Higher end GTX/RTX as you can get away a lot of workstation task by using them.
ec91d1 No.16095349
>release GPUs worth $200 for $800
>get fucked in the ass by the inevitable crash
Let this be a lesson for any gay kike that dares to rip us off. I cannot wait for top-tier GPUs to cost $300 again. Niggervidia has been a bunch of kikes ever since the overpriced Titan card.
4b76a3 No.16095350
>>16095338
RX 570 and 580 are still good value and you can find 8gb models of them under 200$ in germany and america. RX 580 8gb is much better value than 1060, the higher power consumption aside.
47d715 No.16095357
NO, IT'S GOING TO RALLY. I SWEAR ON MY DOG. JENSEN HUANG IS THE EINSTEIN OF CEOS.
Cramerposting > PTIposting
8c1aac No.16095361
>>16095350
Power consumption in a gaming PC is such a shitty meme. Who the fuck buys a performance anything (computer, car, etc) and gives a shit?
<oh no this computer I bought for $1000 is going to cost an extra $10 to run each year better get something slower or more expensive!
4b76a3 No.16095363
>>16095361
I agree completely. It's like buying a sports car and wanting it to consume as little fuel as some shit econobox.
c706ee No.16095369
>>16095350
RX570fag here, can confirm.
9be69f No.16095371
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16095285
>>16095292
Got my brother the DDR5 version when he was upgrading his rig, managed to get an old buddy of mine to sell me one for 40 bucks. He almost got scammed by this online seller from China who's selling a 1080 gpu whose price is surprisingly fucking cheap. It was a cryptokike farmer who was recycling the box with a 750 card.
e70815 No.16095377
>>16095363
It only really matters when taking into consideration your power supply for total load. While cutting down on total drain from the wall socket is nice, bending over backwards for it is ridiculous.
c52d0c No.16095381
Pascal was genuine step up in EVERY WAY
I cant see anything useful in Turing besides tech that will be atleast another decade in development like Raytracing and DLSS
So NVIDIA is literally selling pipedreams
i wouldnt be surprised if even more efficient regular rendering techniques come out that look just as good as raytracing by this time
Hell a lot stuff already does
4b76a3 No.16095385
>>16095381
>i wouldnt be surprised if even more efficient regular rendering techniques come out that look just as good as raytracing by this time
There is, it's called Physically Based Rendering, or PBR for short. Most engines now support it and it gives a layer of realism to everything. A notable game that has it is Deus Ex: Mankind Divided which looks amazing.
Hitman 2 (2018) also has "muh reflections" without RTX on plenty of surfaces.
439072 No.16095386
>>16095272
Irrelevant, because the 2080 is probably better for gaming and has a ton of gimmicks that might actually matter. The Radeon VII appeals to a very slim margin of the market who needs both high productivity and gaming performance on one machine
They could very well have launched it with only 8gigs and have actually made it competitive by selling it around 500 or 600.
e1be5f No.16095387
>>16095381
>tech that will be at least another decade in development
Reminder that the raytraced Quake II build can't run at a stable 60 on any resolution higher than 1080p.
4b76a3 No.16095391
>>16095386
>Irrelevant, because the 2080 is probably better for gaming
Irrelevant, since like 2 games support RTX right now.
Benchmarks have shown the 2080 and Radeon VII on equal performance and 16gb HBM2 will guarantee that it will outlast the 2080.
4357f9 No.16095401
>>16095229
Historically, every time ATI/AMD got their shit together and had better offerings than Nvidia people still bought Nvidia. Nvidia knows how to market their cards, and gamurs are retarded fucks anyway.
Even now this is somewhat true, the 2060 is an overpriced 6GB card, it's retarded to buy a 6GB card in 2019 for that price, you are definitely looking for issues 2 years down the line. Also RTX is irrelevant in such a mid end card (If relevant at all in any card). You can get a Vega 56 for that price with 8GB and the same performance but people still buy the 2060 like it's the best card Nvidia ever made.
9be69f No.16095422
>>16095407
Thanks, got the Zotac one so it was legit and not that fucking revisioned scam by nvidia. It was fucking insulting what these chinks do and it's sadder when I see angry faggots who were angry at getting scammed by a chink from the mainland make angry blogposts for buying shit from fucking China.
8c1aac No.16095439
>>16095381
Pascal was not a genuine step up. Some of the "Pascal" GPUs were just slightly modified Maxwell GPUs. There's a really good reason why the bought and paid for tech media doesn't like to have GTX 980 and GTX 1080 in the same benchmarks, unless it's a situation where GTX 980 needs more than 3.5GB, since the last half a gig of the GTX 980 is broken and doesn't work properly.
>>16095386
RTX doesn't matter on this generation. You turn on RTX at 1080p and your $800 card is getting worse frame rate than a GTX 1060. For an increase in graphics that's not that noticeable.
>>16095401
Tech media is bought and paid for. Sites like Tom's Hardware are owned by literal market firms (Purch Media owns Tom's) that have companies like Intel as their clients. Nvidia could release a card that generates house fire memes because it's so hot and such a piece of shit and people would still buy Nvidia cards left and right. Oh that's right, that already happened. FUD has been drilled into normalfags' heads about AMD GPUs so much they don't care what Nvidia does.
>bad drivers
>dies early
>cheap knockoff
>overheats
There's probably more to the sell off than they are publicly disclosing. They more than likely know what cards AMD has for Navi. Considering AMD is going to be bringing out 7nm cards to compete with 12nm (which is really just 16nm with some tweaks) and gay Turing has a bunch of die space dedicated to RTX logic, there's a good chance AMD will show up with some cheap and fast cards, and they'll have a very good chance at massively undercutting Nvidia because the 7nm dies will let them shove more transistors in a smaller area than 16nm. As long as 7nm yields are good, AMD has the chance to mop the floor with Nvidia in mid 2019. And I think these investors know this and they're selling before shit gets even worse for Nvidia.
People are retarded but I think a lot of them already went through Nvidia's bullshit before.
>Yeah the Nvidia card is slower and cost more but it has PhysX! Every game will use it in 3 years and it'll revolutionize everything!
79e1aa No.16095446
>>16095445
The hell do (((SMART))) readers do anyway? Just turn off when you're getting too much energy for your buck?
439072 No.16095452
>>16095391
>>16095391
Nigger, that’s irrelevant because RIGHT NOW the 2080 has a better appeal to the masses because it MIGHT have some cool stuff later on like ray tracing and DLSS, amongst other things. This couple with what >>16095401 said about marketing will pretty much confirm that it will underperform, which will lead into the further decline of their GPUs and will allow Nvidia to be even bigger kikes.
a894b6 No.16095454
>>16095446
They seem to exist so that you can't actually tell how much they are jewing you because there was a month where my AC crapped out and the fucking power bill got higher. How the fuck does that even work?
a894b6 No.16095475
>>16095468
I can fully believe that they had to do away with regular meters because Tyrone can't read.
c56b20 No.16095482
Joke's on you guys; my region refuses to replace meters unless they break. Mine are decades old, and the whole city gets a walk around reader.
79e1aa No.16095509
>>16095462
>>16095454
Sounds awful if they don't use the outage tracking to better address specific stuff.
5f5e57 No.16095574
>>16095237
If you mined bitcoin 8 years ago, congratulations, you won life, if you're starting today, you should seek suicide.
b765dc No.16095597
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
What's the deal with bitcoin?
397462 No.16095599
>>16095361
>>16095377
Power consumption is usually just a proxy for heat generation. All other factors equal, less efficient power use means a lower clock speed in order to restrict heat.
It's not a shit meme, it's just often misunderstood. The "cost" of the power is immaterial since (unless you live in the south) it's just offsetting your heating bills anyways.
ef5b50 No.16095606
>selling when the stock has already lost most of its value in weeks
rekt
74b605 No.16095610
>>16095439
The 3.5 GB of VRAM shit was a problem on the 970 and not the 980, and the 980 is on the level of the 1060 in most cases.
ef5b50 No.16095619
>>16095583
The true redpill is realizing money isn't that important since the essentials are so chep. It's much preferable to be a healthy, young Mensa member that's NEET than a 40 year old average brainlet millionaire that has too much stress in his life. What really matters is the state of your body and brain.
228a20 No.16095633
>>16095357
>the guy who said leave your money in Bear Stearns
How old are you?
47d715 No.16095725
949b51 No.16095738
Reminder that Vega 7 is incredibly shit and a rushed disappointment. Nvidia will never be surpassed, deal with it
cfa75e No.16095771
>>16095738
It's not a gaming card, anon.
228a20 No.16095792
>>16095725
>it was worse than I thought
Didn't know about that particular bit of stupidity from him.
31487b No.16095800
>>16095387
Stable 60 at 1440 is possible
Anything 4K isn't but that's mostly due to the mods and Quake Engines limitations.
Ray tracing is a shitty gimmick due to the fact that we still have no fully ray traced games developed from scratch and most games Nshitia is shilling were already in development before said gimmick and their visuals and gameplay don't make for a good implementation of the technology outside some really subtle sections that you might as well raysterize and call it a day.
Even then the performance cost is too big for such a lacking detail and godawful implementation.
All that money and they can't fund some playable tech demos to showcase and sell it, pretty pathetic.
31487b No.16095808
>>16095738
>Vega is shit
It's true, and it's not even a gayman card even though it's branded as such
>Nvidia will never be surpassed
People have been saying that about Intel for a decade.
25871f No.16095837
>>16095371
>same price and name
>with different memory type and inferior performance with up to 50% of difference
What a fucking scam. Fuck Nvidia.
Good thing you helped your brother. And fuck chinks, those bugmen.
d8c95e No.16095854
Oh noes a 3% dip, how will they ever recover from this?
Anons should be aware that a big chunk of Nvidia's value stems from automated car research and machine learning/AI programs, not just some vidya cards.
f7d6c1 No.16095866
> buying high
>selling low
sounds like a real quality fund to invest in,
no Jews involved atleast
2c11b6 No.16095892
>>16095866
Saudis are sandkikes.
b60ecc No.16095914
>>16095854
>automated car research
Aren't those incredibly dangerous, and run people over all the time?
582068 No.16095915
>>16095854
You retard that is just this month. The companies value began to tank October 2018. The peak value was around $288. So its not a 3% dip but over 50%. The upside is if you think they can recover then now is the time to buy
d8c95e No.16095951
>>16095915
That decrease was for the entire economic sector.
024150 No.16095962
>>16095866
>buying high
>selling low
That reveals that something bad could be happening behind the scenes for Nvidia. They must not have any success in getting developers to adopt the RTX, and they must fear that they will lose that opportunity when the new ATI cards roll out. If they're panicking right out Nvidia at such a big loss of investment, they have to know something that isn't public knowledge at this time. People don't normally wake up and say, "I'm going to go ahead and lose a billion dollars today."
We know that RTX isn't catching on, but this just hints at just how badly it is going.
60d2a1 No.16095964
>>16095193
Poetic justice.
582068 No.16095967
>>16095926
>>16095951
And NVDA got a death cross mid Nov. as a result. AMD is getting very close to their own death cross but with the 20SMA crossing the 50SMA might buy them some time. Yes their was a plunge but it hurt NVDA way more than AMD.
cfa75e No.16095980
>>16095967
It was not just Nvidia and AMD.
It's too soon after the plunge to really confirm how they'll recover.
ef5b50 No.16096061
Nvidia is really crashing and burning. Like some other guy said, the investment fond wouldn't do this if they didn't have very good reason. They likely have some inside information. It's weird. I thought Nvidia were invincible a few months ago. Was gonna buy alot of shares.
e622f4 No.16096063
>>16096061
>>16095980
I don't see how they can keep falling though. Sure the bitcoin thing MIGHT be over and it's possible they will never quite recover those numbers, but it's not like there's anyone who could take over the market, and I don't see the general market for graphics technology going away either.
0d3fd7 No.16096075
>>16095808
Will all that FP64 performance of the Radeon VII finally bring forth the crowdfunded with some small side investments from the Cayman Isles AAA Space Sim fidelity gaymen deserves?
d8c95e No.16096086
>>16096061
I bought a lot of shares after they crashed. One of the things keeping their stock suppressed is a frivolous lawsuit which has zero chance of going anywhere. I'd guess the investment fund is oving away due to Nvidia's recent volatility.
d8c95e No.16096087
a50500 No.16096444
>>16096086
>>16096087
>I bought a lot of shares after they crashed.
33d506 No.16096483
>>16095193
EAT SHIT NVIDIA
THAT'S FOR TURNING YOUR BACK ON THE PEOPLE WHO MADE YOU POWERFUL IN THE FIRST PLACE
e099e5 No.16096582
So what? They will sell it and someone else will buy them.
How is this bad for nvidia? It's not like they have to buy their own stocks and pay 3.6 billion
332e20 No.16096589
>>16095193
THANK YOU BASED NIPPON
831e55 No.16096590
>>16095193
So. Who bought those shares? Tencent?
574dd7 No.16096603
>tfw you bought cheap OC'd 1080TI and dont have to give a fuck about retarded ass rtx shit and still play shit maxed out and my gpu doesnt even use 50% of it's full power
I pity those who want to upgrade right now unless 10XX gpus from nvidia dropped prices with the 20XX launch.
And fuck amd untill they manage to get some real support, i've made mistake of buying their shit once and i wont untill they'll get their shit together
85910c No.16096809
>Jewvidia under-delivers because of memetracing
>AyyMD under-delivers because of muh 7nm
cbcb0c No.16096889
>>16095193
>the result of this is often a flood of second-hand graphics cards hitting auction sites with a knock-on effect on sales of new cards
INB4 ANTI SECOND HAND DRM ON GRAFIX CARDS
3dcacf No.16096962
>>16095454
I do electrical and it sounds like your blower motor or compressor went out right? If you had air circ but no cold, compressor was still activating, at a much higher stress level due to no freon means more use of power.
If blower motor went out compressor would still kick on, that would freeze up and essentially shorts unless it was a newer model.
Both situations can make bill go up if you dont TURN IT OFF LOL.
Also could have been a control board issue, could also short causing increased power consumption
81b9c7 No.16096990
>>16095967
>AMD is getting very close to their own death cross
Absolute bollocks. The VII launch is a disaster, but Navi will not be, nor will the Ryzen 3xxx series later this year, which is going to humiliate Intel more than they've managed to humiliate themselves.
d5f3cc No.16096995
>>16095223
That's just for the retarded Apple fags. I buy $200 unlocked stock Android phones and my carrier doesn't use contracts. Done and done.
502638 No.16097011
>>16095606
>they sold the bottom
I wish /biz/ was more active here.
730cf6 No.16097024
>>16097011
>>16095606
>News is that they lossed over $2.7 billion buying/selling Nvidia stock
These fucks sound incompetent as hell.
9f2c76 No.16097052
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16095223
>>16096995
Not even Apple could get away with $1000+ chinesium phones, they missed their sales target and the CEO was grilled by shareholders.
d689d4 No.16097062
>>16097024
SoftBank launders Saudi money. Doesn't matter if they lose it.
09250c No.16097065
>>16096982
> and instead people turned into the most miserable, jealous motherfuckers in the world overnight
Good for you, Anon. I hope it shaves you off from being a wagecuck for a long time, meanwhile I am waiting for my fucking wagecuck job application.
0e791b No.16097075
>>16096075
I don't understand what's happening in that vid. Is he successfully outrunning the missiles to a very small degree or is it just buggy?
98765b No.16097088
>>16096982
> Posted it here thinknig people would be happy for me that a poor fag from this board had made good
If it means anything, I'm happy for you.
2d5772 No.16097107
>>16096982
Oh look, it's the nigger who made this thread >>16097007
c03ebb No.16097129
>>16096982
nice
formatting
82119b No.16097131
>>16096990
>The VII launch is a disaster
How so? It seems roughly comparable to the 2080.
d9ee93 No.16097151
>>16095193
>boi
>>16095606
>dabbing
Fuck off with your nigger shit.
81b9c7 No.16097208
>>16096982
>bought every fucking expensive game
> both rift and vive
We would be happy for you if you were one of us, but clearly you turned your back on who you were as soon as the money showed up and you turned into a consumerist cuck like any normalfag. You yourself should be disgusted with your behavior - not because you made money, but because of what you did with it.
t. make over 100k/year honestly and have half that much in cash savings with more in stable retirement funds, but still build computers at the bang/buck point, buy ikea furniture, don't buy games that are trying to cuck me, etc.
>>16097011
Mini /biz/ thread?
>RIP Jack Bogle.
e4bb73 No.16097223
>>16095439
>House fire memes
Ah, those were the days. /g/ suddenly covered in SOMEBODY CALL NINE ONE ONE. One idiot posts thinking it was a celebration of Fermi's victory over AMD, not understanding it was mockery.
As far as Navi goes, the word going around is that a test batch came from TSMC around September that was showing better than expected results (clock speed, power consumption, etc.), but a critical flaw was found that made the entire batch non-viable. Navi was delayed in order to fix this, otherwise we probably would have seen it launch in the first half of this year.
b3fe84 No.16097244
6b53cb No.16097272
ef5b50 No.16097309
>>16097011
>spoiler
Same, man. I earned a fair bit of money last year on the stock market with hardly any effort. Would like to be even more jewish this year.
ef5b50 No.16097311
>>16097272
>pic related
>doesn't post a picture
f0c807 No.16098067
>>16095229
Why is that, is it because they don't have as much money?
a0e5bf No.16098099
>>16098067
AFAIK, AMD pulled engineers from Vega and Polaris' development kinda early to put into Navi's development. On top of the fact that it was around the same time they were starting to channel major funds into taping out the first engineering samples of Ryzen. While AMD has to balance funding between 2 almost monopolized markets, nvidia and Intel don't.
I have high hopes for Navi since it's getting a lot of R&D funds for it from Ryzen's success and Sony's backing.
7beeee No.16098381
>>16095216
How fucking hard is it to make good cheap midrange GPU? I believe in times of ryzen good 200-300€ gpu would be massive success. You could do killer pc whit just over 600€ and reel in new customer base.
1fbd46 No.16098497
>>16095401
No you nigger, Nvidia has always been ahead of everyone else. when you want the highest performance you get nvidia. Only problem is they are fucking kikes and market to the chinese.
1fbd46 No.16098507
>>16095574
Don't waste your money on bitcoin, Proof of work is dying. Put your money in one of these.
I suggest XRP.
1fbd46 No.16098516
>>16098507
I have bitcoin and litecoin there because you can make short term gains.
37733b No.16098811
>>16095193
>2015
>grab a 980Ti for GTAV
>right before the crypto meme
>more than enough card to last me through the cancer generation of nvidia kikery
Feels fucking good.
ef5b50 No.16098964
>>16098507
>buy memecoins
You're better off buying gold. The cryptomarket has had it's heyday. It's all downhill from here, atleast for the near future.
ef5b50 No.16099024
>>16099004
>using boomer as an insult
>lolberg
lol Sounds like you need a helicopter ride back to your containment board.
b51fd7 No.16099271
>>16097075
>is scam citizen buggy
dc0a7f No.16099367
>>16095193
They're fucked long term, Nvidia only has HPC and dGPUs and the switch.
For APUs/SoCs, intel has their own shit to push and when they need something else they ask AMD, AMD isn't gonna do Nvidia IGP either and their foray into ARMshit is inconclusive at best (self driving car in particular).
HPC is also starting to have competition and more incoming although they most likely will hold out for a while through existing contracts and CUDA, that's their main money maker.
dGPUs they're untouchable,AMD has nothing to compete against the high end and they're very efficient so laptops arealso secured for now, Navi is only set to release the mid end versions which if everything is true outperforms a 2070 for cheaper than a 2060, intel can't compete their own best IGP are less efficient than VEGA, IGPs in general are hurting Nvidia though because lower end GPUs are the money maker and people are starting to just ignore those and use IGPs instead.
They've burned enough fairly big bridges (M$, Sony, Apple etc) that I don't see some miraculous partnership saving their ass anytime soon
0d3fd7 No.16099370
>>16096889
>INB4 ANTI SECOND HAND DRM ON GRAFIX CARDS
This is why AMD with its open-source linux drm is superior.
533a0e No.16099384
>>16097075
the missiles are just failing to explode on contact. Missiles were actually one of the few rare things that SC had working just fine like three years ago, but then they decided to completely fuck up because the whales wanted the game to be less homing missile based and more like a War Thunder in space thing where most of the combat is suppose to be you somehow hitting a pixel sized space fighter while it zooms around in 6dof with a slow as fuck pew pew laser machine gun that does almost no damage and overheats in five seconds.
e898b4 No.16099668
>>16095216
>Maybe it came from the fact that you are trying to standardize $600 graphics cards
>trying
The price of the AMD Radeon VII is proof that they aren't "trying" but have succeeded.
b51fd7 No.16099732
>>16099668
The Radeon who whats?
316d75 No.16099743
>>16099384
>hitting a pixel sized space fighter while it zooms around in 6dof with a slow as fuck pew pew laser machine gun that does almost no damage and overheats in five seconds.
That sounds actually fun.
Right there you got extremely deep gameplay, you can't just pointy and shooty, you have to aim, you can dodge shots, you have to lead, you have to control when you're shooting at all, and it's not casualized by low TTK like every other shooter-type game. And then to add on to that you have 6DOF unlike most other shooters which are essentially 2D games with 3D graphics.
War thunder is not like that at all, it's basically a flying version of a casual shooter like CS:GO with the added limitation of you being unable to fight back if someone is behind you, making the combat even less skill based.
But it's scam yiddizen so your suggestion is never going to happen, whatever.
e898b4 No.16099768
>>16099732
The Radeon VII is AMD's stopgap video card before the launch of their Navi architecture.
Y'know for a board that fellates AMD while screaming endlessly about Nvidia or Intel, /v/ doesn't even keep up with what AMD is doing or releasing. It's bizarre.
603a54 No.16099775
>>16099768
/v/ isn't one person.
4dc536 No.16099845
>>16095967
Can you go a little bit more into what a death cross entails?
0d3fd7 No.16099881
>>16099743
>War thunder is not like that at all, it's basically a flying version of a casual shooter like CS:GO with the added limitation of you being unable to fight back if someone is behind you, making the combat even less skill based.
Only if you play third person mouseaim modes.
4f5b4e No.16099911
d80634 No.16099984
>>16095350
>>16095349
>bought gpu during bitcoin craze
I was really stupid. I overpayed double the price it costs normally
a5f381 No.16100015
>>16096982
Oh look, the retard from /tech/ that doxxed himself.
dce280 No.16100362
>>16095854
>Nvidia's value stems from automated car research and machine learning/AI programs
Both of which are quickly dumping Nvidia in favor of custom made processors. Ironic because Nvidia originally started out with the goal of making custom specialized chips. Not to mention their portfolio listing gaming being half their total yearly revenue since 2016.
>Google's TPU processor
https://archive.is/GtiZu
>Tesla ditches Nvidia for in house processor
https://archive.is/OJPbY
>>16097131
>The VII launch is a disaster
Considering how half-assed a product it was, it deserved to flop but surprisingly sold out the day it launched. Don't know whether that's due to low stock or normalniggers being more retarded than I thought.
c03ebb No.16100375
ef5b50 No.16100388
>>16096982
How much did you gain from it exactly? 100 grand? jealous tbh
ef5b50 No.16100401
>>16100388
>100 grand
Nevermind. Some number in the 4-500k range, right?
b537ba No.16100408
>>16100362
>it deserved to flop but surprisingly sold out the day it launched. Don't know whether that's due to low stock
they're faulty pro-chips repackaged to sell to gaymurs instead of just throwing them away, while having something with the radeon name to sell. same shit nvidia does with their low end rtx cards which are even more half-assed. but yeah, it's the VII that deserves to flop….
>or normalniggers being more retarded than I thought.
the only normalnigger here is you, since amd never had anything big gpu-wise for 2019 on their roadmap, certainly not for Q1. see >>16099768
dc0a7f No.16100695
>>16100362
>to low stock or normalniggers being more retarded than I thought.
Might simply be that it can do professional tasks as well as a card 6x the price.
ecba7f No.16100747
533a0e No.16101943
>>16099743
>That sounds actually fun.
If you have near perfect latency and your game doesn't run like ass, sure. But we're talking about Star Citizen. Gameplay mechanics that work fine in their offline bot filled combat arena mode became a broken useless nightmare when applied to real players in their big online test universe. There are guns that just outright don't work against live players because of shit network issues because they're trying to run the game on Frankenstein nightmare of an engine and netcode.
087262 No.16101987
>>16099772
>>16099826
>>16099881
Your flight of bitcoin will be intercepted and dumped into the baltic sea.
1a2ec5 No.16102030
>>16095193
>Nvidia itself citing the Chinese slow down for its recent poor performance.
>Ever relying on chinks
>Ever
1fbd46 No.16102748
>>16098964
I have silver as well, you need to diversify faggot.
XRP is going to be used by countries soon to transfer wealth.
and gold and silver will be used to back money.
dce280 No.16103423
>>16100408
>they're faulty pro-chips repackaged to sell to gaymurs instead of just throwing them away, while having something with the radeon name to sell. same shit nvidia does with their low end rtx cards which are even more half-assed. but yeah, it's the VII that deserves to flop….
>One brand must be the winner regardless of whether both make overpriced garbage
It's retarded low IQ niggers like you that made the market the way it is today.
THEY ARE BOTH SHIT AND DESERVE SHIT
I don't give two fucks which brand came out with a better overpriced GPU, neither deserves money. You can make the argument that VII is:
>great for professionals
>Is a cheap workstation GPU
Which are both correct but VII is marketed as a gaming GPU and as a gaming GPU it's ridiculously overpriced. They all deserve to flop because if they don't that's tacit endorsement from the market that "yes Nvidia and AMD, you can overprice your shit and we'll buy it happily." How long until you pieces of shit create a reality for me where recommending or buying a F I V E H U N D R E D D O L L A R console for gaming is more reasonable? How long until the "1000 dollar entry level gaymin pc" is no longer a meme?
Nvidia fans did the same shit when they gifted Nvidia with more money than ever before after they took what used to be x60 and rebranded it as x80 with x80 prices, then took what used to be x80 and made it the Titan and charged 1000s of dollars for it. Now AMD is doing the same. VII was cooked up by a retarded exec from Radeon that "retired" after the idea got shat on for being "impossible" and "out of touch". AMD knew it was garbage and was most likely prepared for it to do poorly, yet it found success and sold out. They already did this with Vega 56/64 and if this abortion succeeds what do you think the high end Navi cards will be when 2020 rolls around? Do you think either of these corporations give a fuck what reasonable is when retards like you tolerate this shit and give them money?
Do all the people who want reasonably priced products a favor and neck yourself you fucking faggot.
6131c7 No.16103441
>>16095599
Who on earth is buying a modern card, and running at a slower clock speed to lower temps? Modern cards can be dipped in lava without issue.
0cd4ea No.16103506
>>16095599
Offsetting your heating bills is fine and all but I've spent too many summers with overheating GPUs. No surprise that the 750 Ti and 1050 Ti are such a success. If I could get a 75W TDP GPU with RX 580 tier performance (as one of the Navi SKUs is thought to be able to) things will start to look much better.
b2736f No.16104632
Why can't we make CPUs powerful enough to make those single purpose GPUs obsolete?
712ed2 No.16104734
>>16104632
Moore's law and quantum tunneling.
ed7e44 No.16104839
>>16104632
Even if you could get the tech to make a CPU as powerful at a GPU's job as current GPUs, that'd just mean you could also make GPUs so much better at their job that those new CPUs would be comparatively shit at it.
It's like asking why we have horses when you can also have your cart pulled by a stongman. It's better to use something specialized for a job.
c0df26 No.16104844
>>
You can. It's just the kikes at jewvidia, jewtel, and advanced jewing microscams who hold the monopoly on GPU and CPU technology will sue you into oblivion and or assassinate you if you make a better CPU. The RISC-V CPU's are trying to get a working mesa/gallium build to convert opengl/vulkan instructions into the RISC-V ASM format so it runs on the CPU. But that is not expected to run well because they suck as software design and by extension the design of the mesa opengl library is not made to run on massively parellel cores i.e 128+. But i'm sure with some work and a better cpu it would work fine, as long as it it massively parellel i.e not x86/intel/amd but something like risc-v.
00d4bd No.16104883
>>16104844
Fuck, I can't wait for some day 3D printing technology get so filthy good that you could have a local shop where you could request them to make you custom computer parts, including electronics with some 3D printer magic. I don't care if ends up being as fast as a computer from before 2010, I just want to not be fucked over by manufacturers all the time and their stupid botnet/prices.
b2736f No.16104904
>>16104883
>3D printing technology get so filthy good
14nm with consumer printer?
00d4bd No.16104923
>>16104904
I think that may be pushing it too far. Something like 80-40nm would be enough for any freetard in the world.
ed7e44 No.16104984
>>16104883
I highly doubt it'll ever get to that point, but I sure do think it'd be fun as fuck to design your own hardware and test it out. I learned a bit of CPU design shortly after Terry died since some of his last videos he talked about wanting a CPU specifically designed for Temple, but since I don't have the money required to buy a lot of breadboards and components to practice I haven't actually tried anything or taken it any further than an SAP-1.
284149 No.16105011
>>16104883
There are several hundreds miles of circuits in a CPU. How long you think that gonna take to print it?
90003c No.16105012
>>16104844
This. Do we know how much it sctually takes to manufacture a CPU/GPU? I’ll make a wild guess and say that if you remove the parts they outsource (memory modules, for example) it’s either under $10 or even into the cents.
284149 No.16105051
>>16104883
Also if you think 3d printing will ever be used for anything other than one-off non-production items (beyond soyboy startups who charge ridiculous prices for their dogshit prints) then you're a fucking moron.
284149 No.16105063
>>16105012
Manufacturing itself isn't the only expense. You must also fund r&d and ad campaigns, and Intel in particular must also buy manufacturing hardware which ain't cheap by any stretch of imagination.
ef5b50 No.16105152
>>16104844
While this may be true, it's only a matter of time until China gets in on the game. I expect that the leaders in the computer chip industries in a decade will be Chinese companies.
c45900 No.16105216
>>16099743
>with the added limitation of you being unable to fight back if someone is behind you, making the combat even less skill based.
That's not the game being less skill-based, that's you being fucking bad.
b2736f No.16105436
>>16105152
Where can you even buy those Loongson CPUs? All I see is articles about them.
2dcac3 No.16105447
>>16102748
XRP is a coin owned by banks and they supply can be easily proppeled by them, it goes against the main reason to use crypto.
28ff2b No.16105632
They are pulling out their stock because the big publishers are going to move to streaming services soon. They are trying to kill the hardware market.
bd9dcb No.16105641
>>16095454
You should get a mechanic to check out the coolant pressure on your AC.
2018 through 2020 were the years when most of the popular older ac units are expected to start having failures in burger land.
t. friend in the maintenance business who is having a boom right now.
8c1aac No.16105701
>>16105012
Manufacturing depends on the process, ie 14nm, etc. They come out with lots of chips on one big wafer disc. They're then cut up into normal size. The cost of the wafer, the process you're using all account for some of the price. Then, not every chip on the wafer is usable, some have defects that makes them garbage. Some have some parts that work and some don't. This it's called yield. Smaller always means more expensive for the same size wafer and lower yield. But the chip gets smaller so you can fit more on a wafer.
Usually, everything is designed in software, then a beta version is made, then tested and fixed, then maybe repeat or maybe release. This is the stepping.
That doesn't include the r and d, which is the expensive part. These chips have billions of transistors and they all have to be made to work well. You also have to pay for the software to make the hardware work. In NVIDIAs case, they also have to pay to develop things like game works, rtx, anti aliasing techniques, etc.
f1e2af No.16106250
>>16104883
>3d printing
>industrial scale
pick one and only one.
casting will allways be more efficient and only retards who delude themselves in magical free shit, leftism and other dumb ploys fall for 3dp inb4 3dpd
cc11f3 No.16106277
>>16106250
So much this. It's hilarious when people spout off about 3d printing organs or food, when the best printers around are still slow as shit and have awful resolution.
b0a4e2 No.16106566
>>16106277
The organ printing looks to be one of the legitimate things that might effect the health industry, as organs aren't EASY to come by, and being able to custom make a organ with someones own cells would massively reduce incompatibility issues. You are an idiot for thinking there aren't legitimate industries that will be affected, it's just that those industries are quality industries that need CUSTOM stuff, or hobby industries where people are making custom stuff themselves. NASA already is using them to build complex parts, that actually get done faster via 3d printing.
cc11f3 No.16106604
>>16106566
It's probably still easy and faster to make "ghost organs" and then have a culture of the patient's cells grow onto it than to 3d print it. And it was just an example.
14e83f No.16106633
>>16106566
>>16106566
>organs aren't EASY to come by
e4fbe7 No.16106849
>>16095866
>no jews
All the jews, they used your pension money that you keep in funds to buy high from them, and sell low to them.
0370ba No.16107222
>>16095401
>it's retarded to buy a 6GB card in 2019 for that price
it's not the GBs in and of themselves. it's that RTX 2060 is barely any improvement over the GTX 1060, and is castrated compared to a 2070 (like comparing Radeon RX 560 to 570). moreover, it's marketed as RTX when in fact you'll get a slideshow if you turn memetracing on.
>>16099984
don't feel bad. there's worse you know
>GPU become overpriced due to cryptoniggers
>decide to wait
>forget I'm in country with 40% annual inflation
>national currency loses 50% value over 3 months
>prices in USD eventually go back down to manageable levels
>however thanks to inflation GPUs are now twice as expensive than during height of crypto rush
>>16099768
>doesn't even keep up with what AMD is doing or releasing
speak for yourself. everyone with a brain is waiting on navi. however I'm always skeptical given that, like Jewtel and Jewvidia, AMD are still kikes in the end (see FX series ""cores"", reference RX 480's 6-pin power connector, RX 560D fiasco, (((PSP)))).
d80634 No.16110002
>>16107222
I know it could be worse but its bad for me because I need money for my health and I lost job.
28c10d No.16110221
Now Euclideon can finally take over the market with their Infinite Detail Engine that can render literally anything of any complexity and resolution even if your computer runs on bread and soup!
ad7ef3 No.16110278
>>16107222
nothing as bad as 3.5 or "64x hairworks on/off". would amd be a turbojew in intels position? maybe. maybe not. but for now I rather take their dick than others, least they still use lube.
4ca1f2 No.16113300
winnie is pulling all insect cash, usa on suicide watch. trump about to start tweeting like a butthurt girl again jej
0d3fd7 No.16113355
With Nvidia hellbent on crashing themselves with no survivors by abandoning the low to mid end dGPU market in favor of the Titan X community, is it possible they might no longer be reasonably capable of either bribing or bullying developers into sabotaging vidya performance on AMD GPUs by the time Navi comes around?
bd9dcb No.16113436
>>16113355
As long as they make money they can make developers do fucking fortnite dances for them.
But ultimately, all that is short term shit and the people who actually want to make games playable will be optimizing based on market share.
So to get the kind of treatment Nvidia cards get AMD will need market share, lots and lots of market share.
dc0a7f No.16113452
>>16113355
Expect them to double down, they don't really have any other viable plan that locking down stuff so that only their hardware can run it well.
0d3fd7 No.16113555
>>16113436
They'll be absolutely fucked once some bloated ass EAAA game suddenly starts getting equivalent or better fps/benchmark numbers on AMD cards at launch, Nvidia's supposed "performance" advantage is the one thing they can't risk losing else the consumer cattle might no longer behave as intended.
It's possible that such things might happen earlier though, Nvidia has diligently shat on every single of their former business partners since the company's founding after all.
dc0a7f No.16113748
>>16113555
>Nvidia has diligently shat on every single of their former business partners since the company's founding after all.
Even worse, usually people just go with a more or less frivolous lawsuit and shit either goes through or gets resolved with a settlement before that.
Nvidia not only sells you defective shit at full price, promises you the moon and underdelivers but then they also damage your brand through doing so and then they sue you / ask you to pay them for it.
Nobody in their right fucking mind would partner with them, especially when the people they fucked over are M$, Sony and Apple
1a1a3e No.16114446
>a bubble bursts
>it takes months, but stocks return to values from before 2 years ago
>Nvidia blown the fuck out
Just like EA, Activision and others, am I right, guys?
Stop falling for this.
454f4d No.16124828
>>16113748
There is a rumor going around that Apple hates jewvidia so much they might get TSMC to not produce 7nm gpus for nvidia, since Apple is TSMC sugar daddy. Plus TSMC themselves had to put up with nvidia shitty behavior. We might see nvidia begging at samsung door if that happens.
c0df26 No.16124856
>>16113436
navi is supposed to be in the next xbox/ps, hence amd's low effort in dgpus till that was done (if the rumours are true), so devs are already working on it which would mean port should work well too if they put some effort in it.
remember nvidia is spending a good chunk of money so ports get fucked with gameworks.
>>16124828
that would be hilarious. also curious how their deal with nintendo works out.
3bb45c No.16124858
Here's an interesting thing I just realized since i made my last post in this thread.
The situation in GPUs right now is eerily similar to the 8XXX / HD 2XXX era
>Nvidia pushes overpriced / defective by design products while trying to push a locked down API but has one good mid range card so all is forgiven because their next arch isn't ready for prime time yet
>AMD is trying to get mileage out of dying archs until they can push a new arch
>graphic APIs are progressing faster than the hardware supporting them
>>16124828
Wouldn't surprise me, they ruined like 5 years+ of MacBook, which surprisingly only really had GPU issues, granted Apple now has managed to become bad enough to fuck up through pure design and not through defective parts.
3bb45c No.16124887
>>16124856
>that would be hilarious. also curious how their deal with nintendo works out.
They sold them a completely vulnerable arch and left the docs for it public effectively ruining most of Nintendo's push for a more secure platform.
I'm expecting Nvidia to sue them / asks for more money on the fixed chips.
c0df26 No.16124895
>>16124887
the switch is completely blown open now? thought it was fixed pretty fast, but I don't really follow that scene that much anymore
3bb45c No.16124898
>>16124895
Not completely because the software side of the security is actually somewhat good this time around, but until they get the revised Tegra SoC they can't really stop homebrew from running on it.
a68d82 No.16136202
>>16124858
Hopefully we get a third player in the market. Intel could get its shit together.
c0df26 No.16136530
>>16136202
unless it can dethrone a 2080ti for lower price people will still go LEL LITERALLY SHIT GO TEAM GREEN. amd was better in mid-range/low quite often and people still bought nvidia because MUH FLAGSHIP FPS
ae8fc6 No.16136534
>>16113748
>Nobody in their right fucking mind would partner with them, especially when the people they fucked over are M$, Sony and Apple
I guess we can count Nintendo getting their Tegra X1 chips as a miracle. I wonder if Nintendo won't be burned when it's time to negotiate for their next generation console.
0d3fd7 No.16136744
>>16136534
Who's even left for Nvidia to partner with?
3bb45c No.16136870
>>16136534
>I guess we can count Nintendo getting their Tegra X1 chips as a miracle
More like Nvidia finding an useful idiot to offload their stock of TX1 from when they tried and failed to take over the smart set top box market after failing to get the phone / tablet / android game console ones.
d83d71 No.16140860
and some people are laughing at consoles for having "fake 4k", now they pay a premium for it
674cda No.16140901
>>16140860
It's fascinating to see all this craze for high resolution and detail only to then get a bunch of shitty shaders smear out all the details making it only a marginal improvement over upscaling 720p.
0d3fd7 No.16141832
>>16140860
>can't even get supersampling done right
2020 will be interesting if they keep doubling down on this shit.
23a8c4 No.16142790
>>16113555
>90s driving game has better positional audio than most games of today
ef5b50 No.16142808
Is this the end of Moore's law or just Nvidia?
e9f8fa No.16142820
Can somebody update me on the /tech/ politics?
Why is y and x shit and whats the drama besides a big company loosing shekels.
e9f8fa No.16142821
>>16141832
Also I want to swallow that cat thing.
0fe19c No.16142830
>>16142820
its fanboy shit on both sides
e9f8fa No.16142854
>>16106633
>>16106566
Half the mongoloid females from Asia on dating sites are port of some cartel.
6fc636 No.16142871
>>16140860
What exactly is "fake 4K" on consoles? Is it purely upscaled from lower resolutions or is only one/a few components in 4K while the aspects are in smaller resolutions?
e72c76 No.16142908
>>16142820
Nvidia is blatantly more anti-consumer and assholish than AMD despite having the great majority of the marketshare
People like to cheer for AMD because it's the underdog and because it's comparatively the lesser evil. To make it even clearer for /v/irgin autists, AMD is not perfect, but it's definitely less evil than Nvidia and Intel.
1a1a3e No.16142933
>>16095914
I see this exactly same message so fucking often. I don't get it. Is it a meme that I have missed or just that many people parrot the same shit they have seen reported on the news/social media, even people here.
1d6f22 No.16142946
>>16142933
Now you just sound jewish.
3bb45c No.16142980
000000 No.16148409
>>16095371
>14 minute video
This is why I hate videos. If they transcribed that shit I'd probably be done reading everything he said in half the time (or less considering how much of it is probably just filler). Just tell me what the point of this video is.
accbe8 No.16148509
>>16097208
>t. make over 100k/year
>buy ikea furniture
A spiritual Jew through and through. Buy some woodworking equipment and make your own furniture. Subhumans make shit furniture and professional craftsmen do not deserve the amount of money they charge for something anybody with a functioning brain can produce.
a5ddc6 No.16149523
>>16148721
Amada Kokoro is better.
ef5b50 No.16149663
>>16148721
I love asian cuties
b7ae75 No.16150518
>>16141832
Not the slightest bit furrfaggot although I want to fuck that cat, I want to pet it until it purrs uncontrollably. How has someone created something, which no one should be attracted to, so attractive?
98765b No.16150532
b7ae75 No.16150533
>>16149523
She cute too. God I love them all, I've grown to become attracted to that cat thing.
>tfw
b7ae75 No.16150535
>>16150532
Sh-shutup, do not bully RTX-Chan!
c0df26 No.16150879
>>16149523
>>16150533
amd always knew what's up
no idea why they changed the colors, maybe to have more amd red and ryzen orange.
578075 No.16151526
>>16095193
>worth just under $290 in October and currently trading at $146)
holy shit that's a crazy buttfucking, what happened to these guys
04c310 No.16151545
How has this not been posted yet.
7ac6e9 No.16152052
7ac6e9 No.16152111
522c04 No.16152132
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>>16151545
At least post the entire thing, anon.
522c04 No.16152133
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>>16152133
The last image was paywalled by (((Danbooru))), so i had to go to Twatter to find it.
574dd7 No.16152163
>>16152132
>>16152134
>>16152132
man this guy is fucking perfect isnt he?
5f50ce No.16152790
>>16096063
This. Shit like bitcoin is a once or twice in a lifetime kind of market factor for any company. They're lucky it even happened because they had nothing to do with it in the first place.
If they expected to ride this high forever, they're idiots and investors deserve to lose money.
But this is all part and parcel for American corporate behavior. The laws behind how corporations operate will always encourage this kind of retarded activity.
Rather than using that shit to reinvest and secure their gains, investors can demand these companies just chase the next new memes, until the company is broke.
But you're right, they're not going anywhere for a while. No gpu start up is going to come along and blow up the market. Their bottom line is safe for a long while.
dce280 No.16153110
>1660 ti
>280 msrp
>aftermarket cards are more like 300
>can't beat a Vega 56
>only 1070 tier performance
>1070s are 200-250 and Vega 56s are 250-300 used now
>T fucking I
This is just a 2050 ti that they rebranded because memetracing would never work with that thing isn't it? What is the point of putting this card out when it'll be slaughtered by Navi a few months later?
b2d177 No.16153150
>>16153110
>muh Navi will btfo Nvidia this time, this will be the year of AMD
Please don't get your hopes up.
1afcf4 No.16153214
>>16153150
Does AMD really need to BTFO Nvidia when Nvidia is already BTFOing themselves?
But yeah considering what AMDs current offering is I don't anything unrealistic about the leaks shown outside of the TDP, it's not revolutionary obviously but Nvidia has basically nothing interesting below 800 bucks right now and 800 bucks card are a niche product so AMD can do just fine even if Navi is Polaris + 7nm.
796ef8 No.16155112
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16095193
China to buy nvidia along with other US tech?
4ca1f2 No.16155495
trump tweetstorm incoming
bf2d7a No.16155508
>>16153214
>Does AMD really need to BTFO Nvidia
Yes. Yes, it does.
>when Nvidia is already BTFOing themselves?
No, they're not. Not enough at least.