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3eff5d No.16063014
Surprise its fucking nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90rJjutu_gg
Sora and Riku are in shibuya now, and the MC from the parody game is there as well
875fcc No.16063045
>>16063014
>shilling your own gaytube channel
fuck you, your metal gear "marathons" are gay as well. suck a dick.
a5c35c No.16063133
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>2 minutes spent just to show that they ended up in a modern city
What the fuck is this shit?
eec59c No.16063135
Is this the true ending? A sequel announcement? A spin off announcement? Is Lightning there or is she still in Paris?
a98531 No.16063146
>>16063135
>tfw Square has their characters end up in the real world for some massive cross over game
c7eb04 No.16063247
>>16063014
This is basically just a retread of the original Secret KH1 ending but with no action scene implied. From what I remember of the secret endings never really have any payoff other than to be remade in engine in a later game.
88bbe7 No.16063271
What sucks the most about the secret movies is that Nomura makes this shit up just to see what he can do with the engine, and it has little to do with the actual game contents.
So for example, while we're probably getting another TWEWY crossover off this, it doesn't mean it has anything to do with this scene - hell, Sora didn't even meet any of that game's characters or enemies in this video, so it's really just baiting the fanbase.
So stupid.
c7eb04 No.16063346
>>16063319
Kingdom Hearts, without Disney or Final Fantasy… and it looks a lot like everything he did with versus 13/final Fantasy 15. Dear God you can tell he's had all of his crap in his head since grade school. I really, really wish somebody at square would pull him away and stop letting him turn every big game into his own personal little masturbation project.
4ddd3e No.16063361
The final level also looks like one of those real world towns somewhere in coastal Spain with the white buildings. It's so out of place it's like they took it from a cancelled game or something.
c7eb04 No.16063379
>>16063361
Nomura is so desperate to bring his self-insertion characters into the real world he won't stop memeing it until he gets to be in the same room with all of them and have angsty conversations about friendship, hearts and darkness while everybody is covered from head to toe in zippers and belts while Mickey Mouse stands in the corner looking very Stern and angry
a92769 No.16063411
This just prove that Sora is prince Prince Noctis dreaming. It also proves that World of Final Fantasy is actually a Kingdom Hearts spin off.
c8b04a No.16063429
are you people so blind you didn't realize it was Tokyo that they were in?
4ddd3e No.16063433
>>16063429
Where the fuck do you think Shibuya is you dumb slut.
c7f0e4 No.16063447
What if Shibuya, or Shibuya afterlife from TWEWY, is Kingdom Hearts because it's the land of the dead?
643a3c No.16063459
>>16063319
And here I thought OP was talking about TWEWY and not this faggotry. Man, these fucks really like Shibuya, huh?
c7eb04 No.16063462
>>16063459
>And here I thought OP was talking about TWEWY and not this faggotry. Man, these fucks really like Shibuya, huh?
It's nomura oh, he really likes Shibuya, he used to have an apartment there and would pick up spiky haired male prostitutes all the time.
6dcf73 No.16063489
So, anyone played the game? How it is compared to its predecessors? Anything of worth? Its dissapointing, isnt it?
c7eb04 No.16063501
>>16063489
It's totally fine as a decent action game with some very light RPG elements. The graphics are actually pretty impressive considering they're using Unreal and the soundtrack is pretty good. The storyline and voice acting are dogshit but that's been a series staple since its Inception. For somebody (like me) that had only played the first two main line games and none of the filler titles, the storyline will also be unnecessarily confusing so it might be a good idea to watch some catch-up videos on YouTube before a playthrough (if you care about story)
4ddd3e No.16063506
>>16063489
The gummi sections looked like they were butchered.
c4e586 No.16063509
Why didn't they put any FF characters in 3? That was the allure the other KH games had. Final Fantasy characters in the same setting as Disney characters and Square completely missed this opportunity.
e31234 No.16063511
>>16063014
>OP shills his own channel.
No niggers allowed.
4ddd3e No.16063521
>>16063509
Disney probably strongarmed them out. It wouldn't surprise me at least.
5f5323 No.16063534
>>16063014
The fucking faggot did it, top kek he followed Toriyama's example and made his dream, real. Sora and the other faggots better be in Tokyo Disneyland.
>>16063509
>Why didn't they put any FF characters in 3? That was the allure the other KH games had. Final Fantasy characters in the same setting as Disney characters and Square completely missed this opportunity.
Same question as to why Marvel vs Capcom Infinity was shit and the goddamn focus on Marvel capeshit heroes and generally being a shit and rushed game, same answer.
c7eb04 No.16063538
>>16063521
>>16063509
In an interview with us gamer namoura actually addresses this. He actually decided on his own to leave Final Fantasy characters out because he didn't see any need for them and he didn't have any space for them in his story. He said earlier on Final Fantasy characters made sense as a crutch because Sora and the rest of the cast wasn't as well fleshed-out. But now Sora is more recognizable as a video game character along with the rest of the original characters. He also said that he might put some Final Fantasy characters in as DLC but he hasn't decided as he still feels it's unnecessary now. Bottom line is namoura just wants to focus on his own "unique characters" and the only reason Disney stuff is even in there anymore is because they co-own the franchise along with Sora and the rest of the cast. Anyway, no more reason to speculate it's literally because nomura just wants to jack off to himself some more.
e31234 No.16063548
>>16063538
Fuck that shit. Best part of the Kingdom Hearts games was beating the utter fuck out of that annoying emo cunt Sephiroth. If that aint in the base game into the trash it fucking goes.
4ddd3e No.16063549
>>16063538
>because nomura just wants to jack off to himself some more.
Which makes the reasoning even more retarded since the majority of FF characters are designed by him.
a92769 No.16063554
>>16063549
Is Nomura the primary reason FF sucks now?
1fa22d No.16063566
>>16063538
>He also said that he might put some Final Fantasy characters in as DLC
>DLC
Oh. Now I get it
c7eb04 No.16063569
>>16063549
Yeah but the funny thing is those character designs usually aren't approved by him and he says that he's often not happy with the end result. He's mentioned multiple times that whenever he looks at his past character designs like the ones from Final Fantasy 7 all the way up to ff13 that he's disgusted by them. He said that Final Fantasy 15 and Final Fantasy type-0 are the games he's most proud of when it comes to "his aesthetic" as he was allowed more creative control, the same thing with Kingdom Hearts 3 Disney actually eased off on him quite a bit and he was able to push his own agenda. Probably because just leaving stop carrying about the brand now that it's been over a decade since the last one.
db08be No.16063571
>>16063554
He's not the only reason FF sucks dick now, but his shitty post FF-VII character designs certainly helped. FF went down the shitter due to incompetence by several higher ups at Square-Enix which culminated in the FF-XIII shitshow. XIII ended up being so overproduced it cannibalized other projects and re-purposed them into FF-XIII sequels despite absolutely no one wanting them and it also led to XV going through development hell.
db08be No.16063574
>>16063571
>helped
*didn't help
c7eb04 No.16063580
>>16063566
Yeah but it will probably be just cloud, sephiroth and Squall at the Coliseum or some dumb crap like that. It would be kind of interesting to see what the Final Fantasy 12 and 13 casts would look like reimagined in the Kingdom Hearts Style. I was also super bummed out when they teased Vivi from Final Fantasy 9 in the beginning of kh2. Would have loved to have him as an alternate party member option instead of Donald.
a92769 No.16063586
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>>16063571
Wasn't Tetsuya Nomura responsible for XV's development hell? Isn't that why there is so many Versus Easter eggs in Kingdom Hearts 3?
c4e586 No.16063590
>>16063569
How could he say he's proud of FFXV's character design? Half the characters in that game wear black clothing or some variant of that. Noctis looks like a twink just like every other male FF protag, nothing unique. Literally the only two good or decent designs are Aranea and Ardyn.
>>16063580
Hell why even stop at FF characters? Disney owns Star Wars and Marvel. We could've gotten some of those characters in the game, but then again there's probably a contractual reason behind that rather than Nomura's creativity.
1fa22d No.16063617
>>16063586
>Wasn't Tetsuya Nomura responsible for XV's development hell?
I think it was multiple higher ups who were responsible for moving nomura around to other projects so he couldn't work on the game and versusXIII going into development hell.
>>16063590
>We could've gotten some of those characters in the game
big hero 6 is originally a marvel team. but the movie is so different from the original.>Wasn't Tetsuya Nomura responsible for XV's development hell?
a92769 No.16063618
>>16063590
>only two
Cindy, Iris, Shiva and Aranea Highwind where 10/10 design you insufferable faggot.
bceaa2 No.16063620
KH3 is pretty fun when you just ignore attractions.
bceaa2 No.16063624
>>16063538
>>16063509
>no sephiroth fight
intensely homosexual
2214b6 No.16063641
>>16063411
I have no clue what the fuck you are saying.
a4b4f1 No.16063644
Sounds like it's a fun game. I might get it when it is inevitably released on a non-shit platform.
c66fba No.16063646
>>16063271
It's like he has a vision of the next game in his head but since it takes forever to actually start making the game he forgets about it and when time comes has to slap some shit together.
c4e586 No.16063647
>>16063618
Different strokes anon.
>>16063624
>we could've gotten returning or new FF characters
>nah instead here's a world where you turn into a furry lmao
a92769 No.16063654
>>16063641
I am saying that they are all Tetsuya Nomura's self insert fan fiction. Didn't you ever play WoFF? Its basically the same story structure and Art design as the first Kingdom Hearts but with turn based combat. And if you played the FFXV demo you would have seen how Young Prince Noctis was another self insert just like Sora. Every one of Nomuras games fallow the same lazy design tropes and even KH3 has a FF versus reference Easter egg. "it's all a dream" as a deus ex machina to resolve the plot holes seems like some sort of bullshit Nomura would pull out of his ass. In fact I woun't be supersized if all these worlds are connected in Nomura's headcanon.
bceaa2 No.16063661
>>16063647
>>nah instead here's a world where you turn into a furry lmao
They already had one of those.
e16019 No.16063665
>>16063501
>The storyline and voice acting are dogshit but that's been a series staple since its Inception.
Wouldn't you solve the voice acting problem by buying the Nip version?
>>16063654
Guess you'll just have to wait for Kingdom Hearts 4 and the spin-offs to see how everything plays out by the story revealing that Nomura is God and characters such as Sora and Noctis are actually his "children" (Or that they're a part of his "soul").
c7eb04 No.16063672
>>16063590
Originally Kingdom Hearts II was going to include Pixar characters. There's an untextured Buzz and Woody in the model data along with a Lightning McQueen I think. For some reason though both square and Disney were actually keeping nomura to a deadline of some type so they ran out of time. Of course long since Age 2 came out Disney Animation proper has had its own successful 3D animated features like Tangled, Big Hero 6 and Frozen which were very popular in Japan. I'm actually surprised they didn't include anything from Wreck-It Ralph/Sugar Rush. The last several Star Wars films haven't done very well in Japan so it's no surprise that was skipped, and even if Square wanted to use Star Wars they would want to use the classic trilogy but Disney would likely force them to use nu-Star Wars and that would just negate the whole purpose anyway.
a4b4f1 No.16063677
>>16063672
>wreck it raplh
He's in the game, though.
2bad7f No.16063698
>>16063133
It's Shibuya, specifically. TWEWY sequel now?
c7eb04 No.16063706
>>16063665
Possible alternate Theory… Luna, Kyrie and Namine are actually tetsuya nomura's self insert characters. While Noctis, Sora and Riku are his husbandos! The theme of these characters never truly being able to get together exist because namora knows deep down inside he can never be with them, but he carries a piece of each of them deep inside his heart… Kingdom Hearts! (Secret deepest lore: the final princess of heart will never be found, because nomura himself is the final princess of heart
7de0fe No.16063709
10 year old franchise and the target audience is still teenager girls.
c7eb04 No.16063713
>>16063677
Yeah but only as a summon and not a fully fleshed-out world.
4ddd3e No.16063725
>>16063709
It's actually closer to 20 at this point.
6082f6 No.16063741
>>16063319
I like how they managed to show off so much in that trailer and say absolutely nothing about the game beyond "COOL SPECIAL EFFECTS."
Over time, I've come to truly despise such overly flashy designs with absolutely nothing to support them.
>>16063534
>webm
>file name
Fuck you and fuck Square.
They'll never make a good game again if they keep that faggot and his lackeys around.
e16019 No.16063767
>>16063741
>They'll never make a good game again if they keep that faggot and his lackeys around.
Isn't Nomura's worst problem the fact that he was let off of the leash? But, then again, who knows what it was that made classic Square so "great" because you can also point to Sakaguchi as the reason why all this shit happened in the first place (The bankruptcy, the merger, etc.)?
a652fe No.16063798
>>16063665
>wouldn't you solve the voice acting problem by buying the Nip version?
Not really the problem with KH is both versions have shitty voice acting. If you go with the Japanese Normuras OC and the FF characters sound better at the expense of most of the Disney characters sounding fucking awful, in English it's vice versa.
e16019 No.16063825
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>>16063798
I figured also because of the censorship made in Western releases, but I guess there isn't much to actually censor this time around. Also, I thought the kept the original voice actors even for the Japanese version of the game.
a652fe No.16063827
>>16063767
>you can also point to Sakaguchi as the reason why all this shit happened
True there is no denying he had kojima-tier delusions of grandeur and opening up a movie studio was pants on head retarded. That said I don't see how anyone can deny he was the heart and soul of the franchise just like Horii is to DQ. His solo venture was better than anything bearing the official "Final Fantasy" brand since he left shame he's been stuck doing phone game bullshit since all his studios big releases flopped.
6082f6 No.16063860
>>16063767
>Isn't Nomura's worst problem the fact that he was let off of the leash
Yes.
It's probably similar to how Lucas was allowed to do whatever he wanted to.
I feel like there is an insane obsession over at Squeenix to force FF into some category of massive "holy cow" - tier franchises (like Star Wars used to be) immune to all criticism and revered so the fans will eat up everything and anything related to it.
This is why they pump so much money into the games, and so much into the things that have nothing to do with the games.
And because some of the devs have their heads up their asses so far, they can't figure out what's wrong.
88bbe7 No.16063877
>>16063647
And then Monsters Inc was the best world after all.
It's just sad.
a652fe No.16063890
>>16063860
>this is why they pump so much money into the games
A lot of that also has to do with Square's obsession to outdo those filthy gaijin barbarians in terms of tech. Dumping hundreds of millions of dollars creating game engines that are only ever used once. If FF13 had just used Unreal instead of attempting to be the savior of the nip industry it would have been a very different game.
a92769 No.16063926
>>16063860
and it was FF7 that made all this possible. Just look at all the tripe (including FF9) that people happily eat up. Square realized FMV's was a money maker and shifted all focus away form actual game-play and invested everything in CGI cut-scenes all thanks to FF7. And it was FF7 that gave Tetsuya Nomura his big break.
a92769 No.16063929
c6d39d No.16063935
>>16063706
I thought this was faggot camp for a second.
f3c8a1 No.16063945
<oh no, our game was leaked. Quickly, think of something to shut it down
<d-don't worry, we're developing a super secret cinematic that will be release as a downloadable content to the game after the release. So spoilers weren't ruined, right?
>people actually bought this shit and lost any interest over the spoilers
>game released, shitty ending. Later, secret movie released, also shit.
<s-see, we told you it's a big surprise. Surprise! You actually bought a fucking bait.
4ddd3e No.16063949
>>16063890
It would've been the same overproduced crap regardless of engine.
eec59c No.16063975
>>16063827
>there will never be a Last Story 2
a652fe No.16063982
>>16063949
Sure, but I doubt it would have been "Hallway Simulator 2010" if they didn't blow hundreds of millions creating Crystal Tools and could focus on the actual game instead of dealing with all the constant engine related issues.
e16019 No.16064008
>>16064006
Fuck you , Carlos!
88bbe7 No.16064012
Also apparently the goddamn Secret Reports reveal there are alternate timelines or something wts
fb4e17 No.16064026
>>16064016
Hey shut the fuck up.
FF12 is an amazing albeit a bit underrated FF game.
Its my personal favorite too and pretty much has the best combat system in the entire franchise.
f668d4 No.16064047
So Sora and Kairi didn’t fug?
fb4e17 No.16064063
>>16064047
Kairi was inside of Sora for a while back in KH1 so I guess that would technically count.
815bac No.16064067
>>16064047
Got cockblocked by whatever the fuck happened to Sora in the ending, which we don't know what happened because neither the epilogue (which was way too fucking short) or the secret movie expanded on it. Just two different flavors of sequelbait.
f668d4 No.16064080
>>16064067
Well, from that screenshot at least they didn’t just completely ignore that aspect of the first game. Seems like it got lost in all the others, especially after they took away any “negative” character traits from the characters.
683609 No.16064085
>>16063890
If Square Enix would have just made a game with the gameplay of the first Mario & Luigi RPG with the overworld gameplay and puzzled like the 2D Zelda games, it would have flew off the shelves and it wouldn't be as overbudgeted as their main series FF games. Problem is, Square is too prideful and full of themselves to go down to such simple yet functional concepts.
>>16064026
>FF12 is an amazing albeit a bit underrated FF game.
I remembered when fans hated FF12 when it came out and stopped hating it when 13 released.
e3f18c No.16064092
>Kairi I don't feel so good
>ends up in TWEWY shibuya
i honestly fucking hope they didn't make a new version of TWEWY just to shill kingdom hearts shit
but i wouldn't put it past those fuckers
127fea No.16064117
Great more DEEPEST LORE shit.
c7eb04 No.16064140
>>16064012
What about virtual Sora? The ai re-creation of Sora that doesn't realize it's an AI Recreation. Didn't the digitized soul of jiminy's Journal (that took on the form of Riku) explain that inside the journal / computer there were digital worlds that needed help? Because of that I keep thinking nomura is going to do an ass-pull and explain that everything was actually happening inside a computer. If you look at the Battle secret movie for Kingdom Hearts 3 (verum rex), it looks like the same digitized effect that they used in "Kingdom Hearts re-coded" meaning that they might be in a "virtual" representation of Shibuya. (explain those weird transforming robot enemies and why there's no people around)
815bac No.16064145
>>16064080
Oh, Sora and Kairi get more romance teasing than ever, it's just a shame their ending is sad while everyone else gets to be happy for now.
f2ce68 No.16064178
>>16063995
So the KH director was so jealous of the ff13 director that KH had to pull a ff13 ending as well?
8a9530 No.16064187
>>16064085
>Stop hating something because something even worse comes out.
Nothing really new. People appreciate the prequel star wars more after the shit disney sequels. They just expand the range of how shit your favorite franchise can get.
e3f18c No.16064197
>>16064178
Nah Nomura's only good at making one kind of game.
4ddd3e No.16064204
>>16064178
If FF7 originally being in NYC is true then he did it first if anything.
62d918 No.16064315
>they end up in real world
>finally no kiddy disney bullshit
>only pure japanese kh x ff crossover we all wanted
c7eb04 No.16064347
>>16064315
Except nomura says he doesn't want to use Final Fantasy characters anymore in Kingdom Hearts, since he believes the Donut steel hoodie Brigade can stand on their own now without using Final Fantasy characters as a crutch. he's completely delusional, but Square are Disney seem to be intent on letting him run things the way he wants.
18a72f No.16064387
Why is it that a fucking in-game universe commercial looks better than any game SE has actually put out in the last ten years.
Nomura should have finshed Versus XIII.
18a72f No.16064408
>>16064397
Girls are shit in any fandom.
e16019 No.16064412
>>16064315
>>they end up in real world
>>finally no kiddy disney bullshit
And, just see how wrong you will be, especially when you have Marvel (And, soon, Fox) joining in.
18a72f No.16064415
Just imagine if it was JoJo instead of Disney.
12220a No.16064431
>>16064315
Thats already out its called World of Final Fantasy,
a92769 No.16064494
>>16064085
My opinion of 12 was that it was still not going back to the traditional JRPG formula that worked but still way better then FF10. FF10 was hot garbage that I played through 90% of the story and never finished. Never played 13.
>>16064016
Yes its the games fault because its not a particularly good game compared to classic final fantasy games. It's big selling point is that it calk full of FMV's and pre-rendered backgrounds. It was a game that catered to graphics whores. Also the fan-base of FF7 (aka the newfags) where fucking cancer that gobble up everything produced by Square. FF was great when it was a cool niche game series for people who could get into JRPG's. When FF7 came out all of a sudden ever normalfag bought into the genera and trashed it up with their faggotry. "Cosplay convention" and "Nerd Culture" in the West was essentially created by the flood of newfags thanks to FF7. We have Bing Bang Theory now thanks to that trash game and it was the game that proved to Publishers and Developers that style was more important than substance.
49744d No.16064512
>>16063319
>Dragon Hearts Z
683609 No.16064518
>>16064494
FF10 came out at a time where a bunch of their best devs left and some of those went to Monolith Soft which was formed by other former Square empolyees 3 years prior. It was sloppy and there was a lot of change in direction with their current staff going forward after 10.
49744d No.16064534
>>16064026
FF12 is so fucking good I just need to get that off my chest.
5d60fe No.16064594
>>16063014
As someone who doesn't care enough about this to play another KH game
Whats the lore like now? Did someone update that image with the happenings in KH3?
6082f6 No.16064596
>>16064347
Does anyone care about the donut steels he shits out?
I thought everyone played it (or at least I did) for the weird crossover bullshit with a nonsensical plot.
Now that I think about it, did BBS even have any FF characters?
I honestly can't remember.
6dcf73 No.16064617
>Bu-but the spoilers dont matter, because the true ending will be out later!
<Secret ending doesnt change the original ending of Sora sealing Xehanort and then dissapears at all, and is dissapointing.
Top KEK.
705f70 No.16064636
How about Xigbar/Luxu?
Shame I'm gonna have to pick up Kingdom Hearts Union χ to figure out what's coming next.
a47c8e No.16064647
>>16064636
Is Xigbar still a nobody? Or did he return to his old somebody self? That's what confuses me.
4ddd3e No.16064692
>>16064596
>did BBS even have any FF characters?
It had twink Zack.
caccba No.16064699
>the secret ending is just another sequel-tease in the same style as Deep Drop/The Gathering
>it's not a plot important ending like Blank Points or any other game post-KH2
>they still don't reveal what's in the box
>they don't explain what happened to Sora
>Reconnect: Kingdom Hearts (again)
KH4 can go eat shit. I might grab it out of curiosity if I can get for about $20 or so. I'm done with this fucking series. It should have ended after 2.
>>16064596
>Now that I think about it, did BBS even have any FF characters?
There was Zack from CC:FF7 in Olympus Coliseum and the moogles in the stores, but that's it.
127fea No.16064710
>>16063319
>kingdom hearts was just leading up to another Final Fantasy game
How predictable.
2d0e6e No.16064718
So it's a sequel hook for Kingdom Hearts 4 Lord of Shadow?
4ddd3e No.16064726
>>16064718
It's a commercial for Nomura's fashion line and Square's animation department.
2d0e6e No.16064729
>>16064726
Both are garbage.
e16019 No.16064733
>>16064726
Wasn't Lightning used for some fashion line?
a652fe No.16064778
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>>16064733
yes, and she was in some Nissan commercials too.
e16019 No.16064784
>>16064778
>and she was in some Nissan commercials too.
Just found one.
18a72f No.16064823
>>16063319
Fuck, what if it's FF16?
243ef0 No.16064835
>people waited 10 years for this shit
christ
18a72f No.16064841
>>16064835
longer than that
277953 No.16064863
That first chord played is from FFXV
6082f6 No.16064879
>>16064823
>Final Fantasy Versus XIII Remake
I don't think so.
Besides, it would be too soon for a new main game.
They need to spend at least 6 years of scrapping assets and remaking them only to cobble the final game together in less than 6 months with whatever they have on hand.
Also, this design, holy shit.
18a72f No.16064883
>>16064879
What the fuck with the plaid, capris pants and that face?
4ddd3e No.16064886
>>16064879
His calves are bigger around than his head. He's like a reverse Chris Redfield.
711ded No.16064888
>>16064067
What are they eating?
815bac No.16064910
>>16064888
Paopu fruit which is supposed to be symbolic of spending your lives together.
18a72f No.16064915
>>16064886
might just be the perspective but cant unsee now.
711ded No.16064957
>>16064910
I wonder what it tastes like.
536dd8 No.16064988
>no drive forms, just the shitty focus system from bbs
>no oathkeeper
>no oblivion
>Sora forgets all his character development from kh2 and regresses into a generic mouthbreathing shonen protag
>Kairi and Axel spend the entire fucking game off screen training with the keyblades they pulled out of their ass only to completely job in the final battle, along with everyone else who isn't Sora
>no final showdown between Terra's lingering will and Xehanort he does show up to smack Terranort a couple times and then fucking vanishes into thin air
>every world is simultaneously too fucking big and open yet full of railroaded corridors
>Xion and Roxas just pop up out of fucking nowhere in the final battle
>they cocktease me with the mass of thousands of heartless zerg-rushing them like the hollow bastion 1000 heartless fight, only for it to be fucking nothing as Yen Sid shows up to carve a path through in a cutscene
Everything past kh2 was a fucking mistake.
4ddd3e No.16065001
>>16064988
There was character development in 2?
a652fe No.16065006
>>16064988
Osaka team was a mistake.
>>16065001
beat me to the punch.
4c4481 No.16065013
>>16064988
>character development
>in KH
>for anyone not named Riku
You wot mate?
4c4481 No.16065018
>>16063014
Can anyone explain to me why the Twilight Town crew gives one flying fuck about Roxas? As far as I understood only data replicas gave a shit about him because of DiZ shenanigans so why the fuck do they care about a guy they never met?
4a4198 No.16065024
>>16064784
but that sounds like Chinese?
815bac No.16065027
>>16065018
Because hearts are magic or some shit. I mean, to be fair, they even teased that in KH2. Remember when Sora was leaving twilight town and the kids came to see him off but they couldn't explain why?
536dd8 No.16065028
>>16065001
>>16065006
>>16065013
Kh2 Sora is a lot more serious and angsty than happy go lucky kh1 Sora, as you would expect. Kh3 Sora is an unbelievably childish retard who forgets everything he ever learned/learns, including the fucking fact that he can't speak about other worlds.
4ddd3e No.16065034
>>16065028
> including the fucking fact that he can't speak about other worlds.
I know every game in this series is like 80% filler so it's hard to remember important stuff but I would think something like that would stick.
057e51 No.16065041
>it's the end of drakengard but shit
>not only is it that shit, they're also in the middle of the most reddit place in Japan
4c4481 No.16065047
>>16065028
>including the fucking fact that he can't speak about other worlds.
This was shot to shit in KH 2 already though. He constantly talked about "other worlds needing his help" on the second pass.
c7f0e4 No.16065073
Disney has cross overs with their characters in cartoons all the time. Why can't Disney worlds link together and have characters cross over from different series? I know it's a contract thing. I want Aladdin to team up Hercules and wombo combo some heartless.
It's a shame there's no FF characters. I like to see a Disidia scenario where the wandering FF characters do meet up in some world like Radiant Garden was in II. FF cameos for me interested in KH in the first place. If they're gone and to never return, then what's the point of Kingdom Hearts being a FF crossover?
9ec31b No.16065078
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>>16064988
>they cocktease me with the mass of thousands of heartless zerg-rushing them like the hollow bastion 1000 heartless fight, only for it to be fucking nothing as Yen Sid shows up to carve a path through in a cutscene
In the game's defense on that one, you DO fight a horde of Heartless, Nobodies, and Unversed before that segment.
4ddd3e No.16065081
>>16065073
Aladdin isn't even in this game believe it or not.
12220a No.16065089
>>16065078
Hyrule Warriors did that type of shit better.
6fae5d No.16065095
>the secret ending of KH3 is a Drakengard ripoff
Fucking
WEW
4f3566 No.16065260
>>16064726
>nomura having a fashion line
Can he really be any more of a raging faggot?
12220a No.16065273
247110 No.16065324
Amazing, zero explanation for Sora getting erased out of existence, and now that sequel bait is immediately ditched for another kind of sequel bait in modern day Japan.
bceaa2 No.16065533
The worst part of the disney worlds is watching sora donald and goofy standing in the corner awkwardly reacting to scenes they clearly don't belong in. Pixar worlds are ok though.
815bac No.16065568
>>16065533
The Frozen world is absolutely the worst for that. Out of all the worlds it was the most "why are you even here?" type thing of all of them. They barely met or interacted with any of the characters and the whole thing just seemed pointless. I actually thought the Tangled world was one of the best ones just because of how integrated Sora, Donald and Goofy felt into what was basically a road trip.
8fb437 No.16065606
>>16065260
I seriously up until now thought Nomura started as a fashion designer that started working for Square later, for some fucking reason. I guess my mind had to classify his faggotry somehow and the most appropiate thing was fashion designer.
e179af No.16065714
>>16065568
Those are always the best KH worlds. Where Sora and co actually integrate into the story. Good example of this is the Aladdin world. Can't believe they didn't do Aladdin and the Forty Thieves, that's a tight movie and an interesting location. Shame.
c7f0e4 No.16065823
>>16065568
Disney doesn't want Elsa to turn straight for Sora.
24023d No.16065842
>>16064910
>tfw will never share unique fruit with your true waifu
Honestly this is the only story thing I like in the entire series, this fruit shit. Everything else is gay, fight me.
>>16065714
>no Wreck-It-Ralph
I feel better about this one because I hated the kike glitch kid robbing Ralph of some of his spotlight and don't want her in my games.
>no new alladin world
Garbage. Jafar dead, no new world lol.
aacc04 No.16066128
>>16065006
Don't bully Osaka.
62d918 No.16068819
>>16065078
>teacups, merry go round, some fucking train
this is the point where the game tries too hard
I'd prefer just having a better fighting system based on a keyblade over those stupid limit breaks or whatever it's called
18a72f No.16069238
>>16064957
like the greasy anus membrane of a braphog.
fbd27f No.16069861
>tfw this game has high reviews on metacritic and the playstation store
>tfw there is no way square will in any way be made aware of the genuine negative feedback that they need to hear because of the blind fanboys who are trying their best to drown it out
I'm not ready to throw Nomura to the wolves yet. I think he might be overworked or burned out. His did well on KH1 and 2, and has spent the last years doing triage on other people projects while his baby of a dark fantasy final fantasy was butched by Hajime Tabata into FF15
2e6bb1 No.16070798
>>16064879
>>16064883
Plaid, zippers, and over usage of the color black are unfortunately Nomura's thing now which is a shame since his character designs from KH1 and KH2 and his past artwork had balance and looked nice.
c3882e No.16071225
>>16063926
>>16071192
FF9 is a precious cinnamon roll you mongoloids.
ea3cb9 No.16071576
fe5208 No.16072438
>>16072406
DLC might have been part of the original plan, but after what happened with Final Fantasy 15 squaresoft might be shying away from Post Release DLC as a concept. at least with its Japanese properties. I'm sure at some point we'll probably see a Kingdom Hearts 3 remix or maybe a Nintendo switch title that ties into 3 somehow. Although maybe nothing will happen depending on what the sales are like for this game, from what I remember Square seems to have a policy of anything that doesn't sell Beyond 10 million copies is a failure.
4c4481 No.16072450
REMINDER THAT KAIRI IS FOUND OFFSCREEN BEFORE BEING RETURNED TO DESTINY ISLAND FOR THE END
082580 No.16072457
>>16072438
>Nintendo switch title that ties into 3 somehow
The face when the next KH game on a Nintendo machine is a LABO Keyblade kit.
4ddd3e No.16072461
>>16072438
You're going to get another clip art mobile game and your gaijin ass is going to like it.
a652fe No.16072554
>>16069861
>he did well on KH1 and 2
All the evidence points to those games being good because of the rest of the talent involved in spite of Nomura. KH1 and 2 were developed by Tokyo team (who have been working on the FF7 remake), the rest of the series (BBS, 3d, KH3) were done by Osaka team and they ranged from mediocre to complete shit despite Nomura directing every game in the series.
4c4481 No.16072586
>>16072554
If anything I would say it's a classic George Lucas situation. Nomura was kept on a leash for I and II, all other games (including CoM which wasn't even made by Square, Nomura still directed though) have varying degrees of ineptitude that should be fairly easy to avoid. KH3 has this problem for the gameplay, OC designs and OC writing. For the individual worlds though it appears as if Disney had it's dick shoved far up Nomura's ass so they have far different problems.
fe5208 No.16072588
>>16064387
>Why is it that a fucking in-game universe commercial looks better than any game SE has actually put out in the last ten years.
>Nomura should have finshed Versus XIII.
last I remember reading he actually did finish the PlayStation 3 version of Final Fantasy 15. But squaresoft management thought it was pointless to release so late into the PlayStation 3 life cycle. They also thought it would look bad if they just ported a PlayStation 3 game to the PlayStation 4 and called it good. So they spent a good three or more years rebuilding everything from scratch to work on the PS4 natively. But even then they didn't have the time or energy to remake every asset from scratch so they purchase a lot of generic 3D models from a Chinese company that just specializes in pumping out generic stuff. That's why the game looks sort of… generic, and most of the Stylistics stuff we saw earlier in trailers isn't around.
a92769 No.16072635
>>16065842
I just hate the fact that they never explained what happen to Sora's parents.
4c4481 No.16072665
>>16072635
They follow the Pokemon school of thought where you're ready to save the world at age 10. They're probably just fine physically since Kairi lived on Destiny Island for a year with no major issues, emotionally probably distraught but were happy to see their son again once he came back for all of a week?
3eff5d No.16072775
Oh, i just realised, Sora used the power of waking to much and woke up in the real world.
ade0d3 No.16073646
The people who believe the devs of kingdom hearts had any idea what the fuck they were doing when writing this clusterfuck of a universe are delusional. It's hilarious. If a video games series has a bajillion installments you can be sure the plot is full of retcons and deus ex machinas that render the whole thing hopelessly convoluted and ultimately pointless.
a92769 No.16073837
>>16072665
No that's not the point. The point of the issue of not knowing what happens to his parents is because that scene along with the opening dream sequence opened the door to the ideas that questions the very nature of Sora's reality. Without a anchor in some sense of reality there is nothing substantive to invest in the fiction. As I stated above the story is willing to bend the rules of reality to such a degree that it fractures any sense of urgency. Even death is not permanent thus loses all value. Finding out about the nature of Sora's parents (or more importantly his origin) would give him a trajectory and a sense of belonging in the universe outside of just nebulous being. Even if it all where "just a dream", it still would have more weight and substance then leaving that fundamental question about the essential essence of this fictional universe unanswered.
d824fa No.16073937
Walt was a cocksucker, prove me wrong.
65eb4a No.16074096
>>16063509
Square saw that Nomura was writing bad fan fiction that misrepresented the use of Square's characters so Square purposely told Nomura that he can't use his own characters anymore.
fe5208 No.16075394
>>16073937
He was a Freemason, look up "Club 33"
e16019 No.16076172
>>16075394
Walt took a strong stance against the Kikery in Hollywood: https://archive.fo/6mogq
d12c4c No.16076198
>>16076172
Can it ever NOT be jews? It's not surprising, but I'd like something to hate that isn't created/endorsed/funded by jews.
45a70f No.16076233
>>16064067
Sora abused the power of waking. Young Xehanort told him multiple times Sora has already written his future for abusing it, and Sora paid the price by using it one last time to save Kairi. Sora isn't PERMANENTLY dead, but he's so far gone it would probably take longer to find him than it took for everyone to rescue Aqua.
3c68e4 No.16076254
>>16064886
Sign that boy up for /8cup/.
e16019 No.16076324
>>16076198
>Can it ever NOT be jews?
Almost seems like it never will. For example: https://infogalactic.com/info/Neoconservatism
>The movement had its intellectual roots in the Jewish monthly review magazine Commentary, published by the American Jewish Committee.
But, then again, there has been evidence to mounting that the Jews are not even Jews. They're Turks (You know, the same people who adopted Islam and took over Mesopotamia, which resulted in the reason for the Crusades. That's not to say that the Arabs were much better, but even they knew how much of a tool Muhammad was and didn't burn everything if it went against "Allah".): https://archive.fo/ZWcFx
278ae7 No.16076389
>>16064067
>>16064145
Literally all I wanted from Kingdom Hearts III was the return of Olympus Coliseum, a conclusion for Cloud VS Sephiroth and a simple but sweet "Sora promises to return to Kairi once everything wrong with the universe
after Xehanort's shenanigans is finally fucking fixed" ending.
At least there's the fucking paopu scene, everything in the opening, the title screen and unexpectedly joyous Dearly Beloved version for it. Neither of which anyone saw coming.
>>16072635
Sora's parents didn't care because everyone fucking died until restored when Riku first called upon the darkness to get off the islands. How does nobody ever realize that? You can visibly see no land or water for miles despite how close the islands are for heading out to and the world is expliclity stated to have been lost. Zexion himself also states "many hearts were lost" when no one else lives on the islands, but there was sure as hell plenty of people nearby at their actual homes. This can only mean Riku actually destroyed the entire fucking world. This actually makes his guilt for the longest time make all the sense it needs.
a92769 No.16076398
>>16076172
>>16076198
Anglo Freemasons are just as bad as the Jews in every way. They are both spiritually kikes but it was in the 1950's that the Anglo stock lost power in the United states. John D Rockefeller is another example of the (((eternal Anglo))).
4ddd3e No.16076408
>>16076389
In 2 there's a bit where everyone, well "everyone" shown being Kairi and Selphie, are fine and the island is still there but they just don't remember Sora because something chain of memories. It's like 30 seconds long and I don't really know what the point of it was.
4c4481 No.16076424
>>16076408
It was to show that Kairi had been just living fine with Sora and even though Namine fucked with everyone's memories Kairi, being super duper special snowflake connection to Sora, was resistant to these changes.
I think one of the biggest plotholes of KHII is why Kairi was wearing a catholic schoolgirl uniform yet no mention of Christ is made throughout the series. Going even further, it calls into question what kind of society Sora was living in as they obviously had electricity yet Sora the almighty dumbass in KH III somehow doesn't know what a fucking phone is.
4c4481 No.16076425
fbd27f No.16076434
>>16065047
>>16065034
IIRC in KH2 most of the worlds would have already been informed of it.
>HB/RG
Already know as their world was taken over and they ended up in Traverse Town in 1
>Beast
Already knew from KH1
>Mulan
Mushu knew
>Hercules
Regularly has otherworlders show up for tournaments
>Disney Castle
Already knew
>Little Mermaid
King Trident knew
>Pirates
Pete spilled the beans and they were forced to use magic anyway
>Halloween
Santa would have had to know other worlds existed already to know about Sora, and Jack ultimately wanted to got to other worlds to deliver presents, though it can't be said if he knew that included visiting other worlds.
>Aladdin
Genie traveled across worlds and they told Aladdin in KH1 when they explained what happened to Jasmin
>Lion King
IIRC They preserved the order there, but I might be remembering it wrong because fuck that world
>Twilight Town
IIRC Sora and the gang tried to keep it subtle by taking a train, albeit a magical one, out of town, but IIRC the Organization were the ones who let that cat out of the bag with all their D2D shenanigans.
>TWTNW
Nobody lived there anyway
Did I forget anywhere?
4c4481 No.16076467
>>16076434
You forgot to mention that Scrooge McDuck is allowed to go world to world jewing people without any transformation magic and with impunity. Hell, one thing that now bothers me in retrospect is how Sora needs to transform to fit in places but Donald and Goofy just get to be Donald and Goofy because fuck you.
4c4481 No.16076475
>>16076467
>>16076434
Actually I just realized we have this entire bit at the start of KH II.9 (god I fucking hate Nomura) where Sora and co. panic about how to navigate between worlds and yet Scrooge has already relocated from Radiant Garden to Twilight Town. Will we ever get to fucking see how Scrooge has been jewing people even bother the Heartless were fucking shit up?
278ae7 No.16076510
>>16076424
>everything self explanatory in I
>everything to do with Namine in CoM
>everything to do with lovey dovey shit he literally gets teased about and literally begging on his hands and knees to get let into the world of darkness itself just for the chance to see her in II (Donald and Goody's reactions fucking make that moment)
>even in fucking 358/2 Days Sora can't wake up because his most precious memories (Kairi) have been siphoned away to give his replica a similar look and Riku literally states this
How was Sora ever believed to be anything but straight? Having rewatched all of this before III, especially as an adult, it's almost insane just how much is actually between them and how much core emphasis is on that.
>>16076434
All the Xehanorts and other bad guys have no problem mentioning shit that clearly isn't around their parts right in front of the Disney characters (which I loved when Woody and Buzz were shown momentarily reacting behind everyone else like "What the fuck is going on?") yet everyone but the Olympus cast have to be danced around. Woody's insults that involved knowing Xehanort wasn't even a toy was and coming from specifically Toy Story were absolute perfection. Now if only he feasibly got pissed off enough for a boss where you get to beat his ass with 2 of the most beloved childhood and Disney heroes ever.
Sully and Mike also had to have heard and seen some of what was actually behind all the shit showing up while sneaking closer behind Vanitas and knew he was a big enough problem their new crazy powerful friends couldn't even handle him in an actual fight, but didn't ask questions they knew they weren't going to get answered. There's so much potential charm like this in Kingdom Hearts, but until III it's all felt half-assed and disservicing to these works and everything bad about Disney and Square isn't doing it any favors.
2bad7f No.16076534
>>16072450
Wait for Kingdom Hearts 3 and ⅛: (You) cannot Un;lock - rEcompilEd Shadows <Interplanetary Edition> where Nomura will release 30 seconds of extra cutscenes for KH3 and a condense 13 hour long cinematic magnum opus that tells the story that happened parallel to KH3 that was played out on Nomura's private RP forum. It will explain everything.
278ae7 No.16076555
>>16076534
JUST MAKE THEM FUCK
f8c55d No.16076561
>>16076534
I want to tell you to meme responsibly, but this shit's definitely going to happen.
>>16076555 (taken notice of)
931087 No.16076580
>>16076475
>>16076475
In bbs it's revealed that Merlin is the reason why he can travel.
To play devil's advocate, it can be argued that Donald and goofy take their jobs seriously as they are going by the standards set out by king Mickey who's standards are that of keyblade wielder, where as scrooge is not a keyblade wielder and has no reason to bother with that standard.
It may also be worth pointing out that gummieships may be relatively new technology as in BBS there was no mention of them and the only ways traveling was done was by the lanes by keyblade wielders, Merlin via magic, the starshine or whatever the thing Mickey had was and probably d2d, but then again in BBS there was also a spaceship that was not a gummy ship. We do know that the FF characters traveled via gummieships as cid worked on them.
But I think I'm rambling now
4c4481 No.16076601
>>16076510
>>everything to do with lovey dovey shit he literally gets teased about and literally begging on his hands and knees to get let into the world of darkness itself just for the chance to see her in II (Donald and Goody's reactions fucking make that moment)
Now that you mention this, I realize that this is what KH III lacks the most, suffering. I'm not trying to be edgy here, I'm just talking about KH I levels of suffering where Sora is constantly depressed by default but has to constantly fight this attitude because he desperately wants to be reunited with Riku and Kairi, Riku is constantly suffering because he's a dumbass, but also because Kairi is unconscious, and Kairi is a literal plot device so who gives a shit about her. Sora has no fucking stakes in this game and it's the biggest reason it feels like such a fucking slog.
Sora's reasons for going world to world in KH I
>I need to find Riku and Kairi and am desperately searching everywhere to find them but along the way I'll stop darkness because fuck darkness it took my friends
KH II Sora
>I need to find Riku but along the way I'm going to stop darkness because fuck darkness it ruined my best friend
KH III Sora
>Oh boy it sure would be fucking great if literally anyone could tell me what the power of waking is, guess I'll meander for 8 fucking worlds before the plot doesn't even need me to be able to do that shit anymore
The stakes are established but they're remote and almost abstracted from Sora because no one directly related to Sora is in trouble, only people he's heard he needs in order to fight the guy whose ass he later fails to kick and would have gotten stopped by his old friend Erasqueeze anyway. They try to play it off as "I've felt Ventus/Roxas/Xion's suffering and I don't want them to suffer" but this makes up for a really shitty motive for why Sora is randomly going places. In the end it shows as you could skip every single Disney world and the overarching plot wouldn't be affected (compare I and II where each world needed to be saved from the overarching villains at work trying to either fuck up entire worlds that Sora just happened to be passing through or Sora wanting to cockblock them out of things the Organization wanted.
>>16076534
I can only pray this becomes a reality.
>>16076580
>n bbs it's revealed that Merlin is the reason why he can travel.
I was actively repressing BBS from my mind but I remember this now, but this only causes me to question why more important people don't get to use the Merlin bus. In fact, Merlin can instantly transport between worlds just like the Organization so it's fucking stupid that no one else on the light side can get to do this, even when Merlin recognizes the importance of the keyblade wielders.
>It may also be worth pointing out that gummieships may be relatively new technology
The gummiships being how FF crew escaped HB was only supposed to work because the Heartless destroyed the pathways between the worlds originally. So gummiships would have needed to be invented in the small timeframe between the Heartless being created/awakened and HB going full nuclear overrun by the things. Even then, they should have stopped working as soon as KH II but that got retconned so that if you have a keyblade suddenly gummi technology still works? And this yet further reinforces why it's stupid Merlin can't teach Donald/Yen Sid/any other magic user how to use this absolutely critical light side power.
c7eb04 No.16076607
>>16076561
>>16076534
I'm still wondering if we will see Kingdom Hearts 3 or any of the other titles ported to PC. Squaresoft has been pretty good about porting its major releases to the PC for the last few years. I can't really see any reason why they wouldn't at least put Kingdom Hearts 3 on PC… unless Disney has some issue with it, possibly because they don't want anyone to mod the game.
4c4481 No.16076613
>>16076510
>There's so much potential charm like this in Kingdom Hearts, but until III it's all felt half-assed and disservicing to these works and everything bad about Disney and Square isn't doing it any favors.
>
I think a major part in this is that looking through the credits the Disney overhead in this game were far far more relevant than they were in previous titles, you'll notice the best worlds (Toy Story, Monster's Inc) were Pixar properties while the most blatantly shitty one's were all in house (Frozen and Tangled were made by Disney's own 3D division). I'm assuming that Disney execs got a stick up their ass about not making their properties look dumb which is really fucking sad since the two best worlds clearly show it's much more fun when the autism is allowed to mesh.
>>16076607
>unless Disney has some issue with it, possibly because they don't want anyone to mod the game.
That would be dumb but Disney appears to have acted rather retarded in development so it wouldn't surprise me.
931087 No.16076620
>>16076510
Does hugged and cried when he found Riku in HK2 and didn't cry or hug Kairi as hard as he hugged Riku so he must be gay. Nevermind the fact that Sora thought Riku was dead.
It was also filed by the scene/goth/hot topic kids all being gay and kh2's fashion being the same stuff the previously mentioned kids wore.
Gay people were also been pushing the narrative that only gey men can be sensitive or physically show affection to other men except for handshakes or the one hand hug. But that's more for discussion elsewhere
4ddd3e No.16076624
>>16076534
Also an extra boss fight slapped together in a day that ties in with whatever the first draft of the the scrapped version of the next game's story will be.
931087 No.16076644
>>16076601
Malefisent learned about other worlds in BBS and started to collect princesses at that time, and there had to be at least 5 or 6 years between bbs and kh1 so thats a decent amount of time to have your home taken over but still enough time to build an ark. But that still doesn't address the stuff about pathways being cut off that they dropped completely in kh3 with the open space exploration.
c7eb04 No.16076676
>>16076644
It would be really interesting to see somebody question tetsuya nomura about any story stuff in these games just to see if he even understands it himself or remembers any of these details.
034ee0 No.16076793
>>16076607
Well if they do end up going to PC, get ready for it to be infected with denuvo. Why do so many japanese developers fall for the denuvo meme.
278ae7 No.16076888
>>16076676
He would never disappoint. Nomura crazily has answers to almost anything you can ask that he feels like answering instead of making an unlockable secret, like why Sora and Roxas could wield 2 Keyblades, how Way to the Dawn was a full fledged Keyblade born from a simple manifested weapon like Soul Eater by using it as a base, why Terra has a cape or even why Mickey was actually topless instead of just his iconic regular design at the end of I.
>but Aqua wasn't
Never getting over that deprivation. So much possibile porn after all that time she spent in the deepest most dangerous corrupting abyss and her dress is barely torn, let alone doing any of that diamond inducing smug laughing her phantom had.
c7eb04 No.16076917
>>16076793
Japanese developers are some of the most paranoid when it comes to piracy. That's one of the reasons why they've been so resistant to porting games on PC in the first place.
4c4481 No.16076922
>>16076888
>like why Sora and Roxas could wield 2 Keyblades
>Roxas seen clearly dual-wielding in finale
<Sora never gets to dual-wield
Fuck you Nomura, that was the best part of KHII and you fucking know it you hack. My autism is also triggered that keyblade armor is never fucking explained to Sora and co.
4c4481 No.16076930
>>16076233
>Sora abused a power he didn't even have or know how to use
Well, I guess.
278ae7 No.16076935
>>16076928
The dick.
And the big gay in that shitty live action Maleficent. I'm not even fucking joking.
c7eb04 No.16076937
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>>16076888 (checked)
>Never getting over that deprivation. So much possibile porn after all that time she spent in the deepest most dangerous corrupting abyss and her dress is barely torn, let alone doing any of that diamond inducing smug laughing her phantom had.
KH has been out for years and had almost no decent porn. It's a really sad commentary on the internet. (Most KH fanart is terrible)
4c4481 No.16076939
>>16076937
There's no porn of it because all the waifus are shit and it's a predominately male cast.
fbd27f No.16076940
>>16076888
>why Terra has a cape
I haven't heard this explanation before.
>>16065028
On the subject of Sora's "development" in KH2, I can sort of see it as being negative development, or at least see it as intended to be negative development.
In DDD Sora is overcome by darkness and in part it seemed like it was because he kept letting Xehanort get under his skin and let himself be overcome with anger. So him being angry caused him to almost become a vessel.
In KH2 Sora also has Anti-from which is essentially him becoming a heartless. But was really worth noting is that Anti-from more or less is in KH3 but under the name of Rage Form. This would imply being angry is related to Darkness.
So when he is goofy and dumb in KH3 its a return to normal or what he is supposed to be like, rather then a return to what his was before developing/growing as a character.
4ddd3e No.16076941
>>16076939
I think it has more to do with the fans than anything.
4c4481 No.16076954
>>16076940
>So him being angry caused him to almost become a vessel.
Are you forgetting how absolutely pissed off he was in the ending of KH I HB? Honestly it was the only time in the entire game that it sounds like he gives a shit. though on that note.
>When Haley Joel Osment actually sounded like a kid
Jesus Christ it feels like a millennia has passed. The plot was so simple then.
278ae7 No.16076959
>>16076922
My autism flares up from Riku not transforming his fucking Keyblade.
>>16076620
I've given up hope for homos in 3Dshit. Only wonderful 2D lesbians matter to me now.
>>16076939
>Namine
>Larxene
>Xion
>Aqua
Faggot.
9cf5dc No.16076962
>>16076945
The one time this torfag has made a post worth a shit.
4c4481 No.16076971
>>16076959
>Namine
Glorified plot device with no character
>Larxene
Bitch whose only character development is "I was really doing it for Marluxia's dick the entire time"
>Xion
Who?
>Aqua
Closest thing to a waifu but her character in BBS is "friends friends friends" and in Fragmentary passage it's "friends friends wait maybe I should actually start relying on myself? No, friends it is". She also loses her boob jiggle from BBS so that's -20 points deducted from her waifu powerlevel for KH3.
fb4e17 No.16076979
>>16076922
>"My autism is also triggered that keyblade armor is never fucking explained to Sora and co."
>Sora and friends never get their own keyblade armor which is pretty much necessary for keyblade users
Its because Nomura is a hack and a shitty fucking writer thats why. There were SO many missed opportunities in that game that it wasnt even funny. They all could have been avoided so easily too such as allowing Sora to dual wield later in the game but making the attack damage of the individual keyblades less and no keyblade transformations so its not OP but remember, Normura is still a colossal fucking hack.
Does Xehanort even use his own Keyblade Armor in the game? I know Xemnas did in 2 so why shouldn't Xehanort? I bet he didnt though.
c7eb04 No.16077004
>>16076939
Kingdom hearts has a massive female cast if you include all the Disney and Final fantasy characters.
1451a2 No.16077017
>>16077004
There are no Final Fantasy characters in KH3 though.
4c4481 No.16077019
>>16076979
>Does Xehanort even use his own Keyblade Armor in the game?
I don't think it's his actual keyblade armor but it might as well be. First image is what the "13 darknesses" look like for the first phase of the final bossfight, second is the armor Xehanort uses when he fights one on one before discarding it for his usually look for the final phase.
4c4481 No.16077026
>>16077004
>Kingdom hearts has a massive female cast if you include all the Disney and Final fantasy characters.
I don't think anon is complaining about a lack of Snow White/Mulan/Yuffie/Aerith porn.
c7eb04 No.16077108
>>16076971
Well, character development was improved if you read the companion manga. Larxene for instance throughout most of the manga was reading a copy of the Marquis De Sade. Along with some dialogue that indicated she was bisexual.
c7eb04 No.16077230
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>>16077017
>There are no Final Fantasy characters in KH3 though.
I know, that's nomura's fault.
>>16077026
>I don't think anon is complaining about a lack of Snow White/Mulan/Yuffie/Aerith porn.
As long as it's done in the Kingdom Hearts style or connected to the main KH cast, I don't see why it would be a problem to include Disney or Final Fantasy characters…
65eb4a No.16077235
>>16063654
Have you ever thought that the tropes for KH are not that original in the first place and that any Square game can be Kingdom Hearts in some shape or form if you look at it close enough?
You could even call Kingdom Hearts a rip off of Xenogears because the dynamic of how Grahf, Lacan, and Fei is similar to how Xehanort/Ansem possesses bodies.
65eb4a No.16077252
>>16063654
WoFF started off as FF for small children which basically means FF using only the most basic shonen tropes.
fbd27f No.16077359
>>16076979
>>16077019
The secret boss in BBS no heart is his armor
fb4e17 No.16077508
>>16077359
No shit sherlock.
Xemnas also uses that same exact armor in KH2 for some reason.
Chronologcially no Xehanorts ever use their armor again.
Does ventus get his armor back and what happends to lingering will?
Does Aqua even get her armor back from the secret basement in Radiant Garden?
Or did Nomura forget about everything and just say fuck it.
8539a6 No.16077633
>>16077508
>Does ventus get his armor back and what happends to lingering will?
Ventus doesn't use his armor. Lingering will lassos Terranort and kamehamehas him with his canon.
>Does Aqua even get her armor back from the secret basement in Radiant Garden?
Aqua "lost" her regular keyblade and only uses Eraqus's. We never vist Radiant Garden.
fb4e17 No.16078288
>>16077633
So many plot details built up only to be left unresolved and possibly never touched upon ever again.
God damn it Nomura.
Kingdom Hearts really should have ended at KH2.
a839ba No.16078307
I want to fuck the Heartless
a108a0 No.16078531
>counting Donald and Goofy (who Yen Sid said could be the eighth and ninth protectors of light, and Nomura DOES have the balls to make you take that literally) bring the light count to nine
>plus Roxas, Xion, Terra, and Naminé brings it 13 lights, all of whom are on the games cover
>as per the mobile game, the epilogue and secret ending, all of which have the Master of Masters, his five animal mask apprentices, and Xigbar/Luxu/sixth apprentice (who by the way all are named after the seven deadly sins because DEEPEST LORE as well as to) make for a potential 7 darknesses
THE RIDE REFUSES TO END.
What his fascination with the numbers 7 and 13 you ask? Elementary, my dear anons! Nomura got his big start with Final Fantasy VII, and the cancellation and forced relinquishment of Final Fantasy Versus XIII you could say was a kind of 'end' for him.
i cant believe how fucking mad he is about Versus
2bad7f No.16078628
>>16063319
So, just because no one ever clarified this shit.. Squenix literally wasted God knows how much money to put together a fake trailer for a fake game? That's an assload of resources put into modeling and rendering a ton of shit for a non-existent franchise that amounts to being a parody of their own wasteful obsession with insanely over-produced pre-rendered trailers?
How pissed would their shareholders be if they found out that several million dollars and months worth of time were diverted from finishing the fucking game on time because Nomura wanted to make a joke trailer?
e16019 No.16078638
>>16078531
>What his fascination with the numbers 7 and 13 you ask?
Well, they're very Biblical numb-
>Elementary, my dear anons! Nomura got his big start with Final Fantasy VII, and the cancellation and forced relinquishment of Final Fantasy Versus XIII
Never mind.
4c4481 No.16078692
>>16078628
The secret ending proves that the "fake game" will actually be at least a real world in KHIV when it comes out in 2059
1fa22d No.16078727
>>16078531
>i cant believe how fucking mad he is about Versus
I can. Have you seen how shitty FFXV is? anyone would be mad about it.
Also the Cover to KH3 doesn't make any sense. The clock tower building doesn't appear at all in the game.
e16019 No.16078744
>>16078727
>Also the Cover to KH3 doesn't make any sense. The clock tower building doesn't appear at all in the game.
Concept art of a section of the game that was probably scrapped in development? Or was a part of the original game, but was removed to be used as DLC later on? Or, Nomura just wanted a cool picture as the cover and didn't care how relevant it was to the game?
2bad7f No.16078809
>>16078727
>>16078744
>The clock tower building doesn't appear at all in the game.
Wouldn't surprise me to find out that the game had a wildly different plot and several more planned areas and a different ending before Squenix hit crunch time and had to rush the game together. As a company, they've been fucking up pretty hard and it's pretty telling that they puked out FF15 and then spent the next few years patching and DLC'ing the shit out of it, only to immediately rush into slapping together an actual game after announcing KH3 5 fucking years ago.
c56d84 No.16078886
>>16063319
>The fedora guy
Ohohooho no no no
d9b273 No.16078893
>>16076398
Freemasons are a diversion you triple nigger
d9b273 No.16078896
>>16076398
Also holy fuck Rockefeller is a huge kike, he isn't a white anglo
ebc390 No.16078901
>>16076389
Are the worlds like, literally only like 20 to 40 people, or are they actual "Worlds" with millions of people (if not billions) I never quite understood this concept.
Like, are "Destiny Islands" really just a handful of islands with maybe 100 to 200 people on it? Or is it an entire planet, with islands, and billions of people.
a108a0 No.16078924
I agree that the plot had to be completely scrapped and redone. Itd lend to how the worlds feel wholly useless and are really just there because its a Kingdom Hearts game. Itd also explain the sheer lack of content, as well as the plot being the worst yet.
>no coliseum
>only keyblades come from the worlds, no extras except for the token Ultima Weapon
>Reaction Commands scrapped and replaced with something even easier (commendable, in away)
>Drive Forms effectively dropped
>Gummi Ship segments completely butchered
>magic lost any uniqueness and utility it had from II
>a great many abilities from II relegated to a formchange available on only one keyblade
>sense of bond and camaraderie from the FF characters gone, because theyre fucking gone
<b-but look at these huge environments!
>that break combat because youll combo an enemy so far from spawn that the rest will despawn
<b-but flowmotion!
>environments are too large for it to be viable
<b-but we brought back Shotlock and Command Styles
>a great deal of which are just reskins of eachothers, and some that are entirely useless when Highwind/Stormflag is acquired
The list goes on. Also, the game is piss easy. Like i did the Vanitas fight in two (2) minutes, and the Aquanort fight in about five.
Its a fucking disgrace, but solely because it even came out its getting eaten up and we'll end up with more of the same.
d2fb60 No.16078973
by the way
the whole "sora evaporates after saving kairi" was bullshit
in the end he goes to find kairi who went missing after the final battle because she was used as the final light to open kingdom hearts
that's it. Sora didn't die. He just went to find her. Kairi was never saved either.
Sora is not dead
kairi wasn't saved
We don't know whats inside the black box. Xigbar is Luxu and summoned the old MoM disciples. It ended there
a108a0 No.16078995
>Ephemer shows up and activates all the dead keyblades
>ALL THE MOBILE PLAYER NAMES ARE COMMANDS
FUCK OFF WITH THIS TRITE SHIT
e16019 No.16078997
>>16078973
Are you still so assblasted that you have to lie 2 weeks later?
278ae7 No.16078999
>>16078973
You know what? I don't even give a fuck reading this. KHIII was unsurprisingly an even bigger disappointment than I expected despite everything other thing good about it and Terra should have died or been stuck as Lingering Will forever after destroying his body to atone for all his fuck ups that had ramifications for all existence itself. I don't think anyone wasn't expecting that ending for him.
The fact Sora and Kairi specifically are the only 2 characters specifically to have their fates unknown and he went off to find her on his own is nice to know. Also, is Ven going to eventually age gap with Aqua? That'd be glorious.
a108a0 No.16079004
>>16078997
Except that anon is 100% correct.
11ec22 No.16079012
How much is Square paying Disney to get to use their shit?
Who would say ok to such a script?
d2fb60 No.16079017
>>16078997
No, it's true. I just beat the game and the ending with Kairi and Sora (sitting on the tree) is just Riku imagining them both there in heart/connected and still there in his heart.
Sora and Kairi's fates are unknown. Sora went to find her and nobody knows where she is
Terra came back. his heart was in Ansem's stand. Sora unlocks Xehanort out of his body and he regains his body. fuses with lingering will
Roxas comes back thanks to Ienzo science. Needed a connection and Xion/Axel in danger wake him
Xion is back and it is not explained how. Switches side mid-final level and becomes a good guy
=Saix defeated and becomes whole. Isa becomes good guy==
Namine is brought back thanks to ienzo science + Replica vessel. Not really sure if real namine or data namine, most likely latter since Kairi is still missing
Repliku sacrifices himself to destroy evil Riku from past summoned to join organization. Vessel used on namine
All these characters end up in Destiny Islands at the end playing frisbee and playing on the beach
Xemnas gets a heart at the end before being defeated and the first thing he feels in decades is the loneliness of being the last member to be vanquished in the final battle, and the absence of his comrades
Xehanort realizes he is defeated and gives the keyblade to Sora, acknolwedging he lost. With his last minutes of life he is forgiven by eraqus who was inside Terra all this time and both go to the afterlife, as he regrets his actions
Final ending is supposed to tease upcoming DLC of FF15/Verum Rex World and TWEWY world. Nothing else.
11ec22 No.16079027
>Kojima wanted to be director
>Nomura wanted to be a brand designer
Holy fuck, fire these cunts.
d2fb60 No.16079028
>>16078924
Highwind/Stormflag is the best melee keyblade in the game, making the Monster Inc keyblade absolutely useless and being objectively better in frame data.
There's no reason to use anything but Highwind/Stormflag, Shooting Star/Winnieh pooh keyblade (Arrowgun keyblade), and Starlight/Ever after/midnight blue/Caster key here
Haven't gotten ultima weapon yet but I heard it just plain cheeses the game, making it easier than it already is. Supposedly it's KH2 Final Form
a108a0 No.16079035
>>16079028
Oh Highwind is fucking great, one of the precious few highlights of the game. As for the Ultima Weapon, i watched a video of ot being used and it looks like ots defonitely up there with Highwind. It not quite Final Form, but it looks like you go white, and theres plenty of floaty amd magicy shit going on. Sadly, i dont think the game is worth the effort. It doesnt take too much doing to get really, but i dont lile this game enough to grind out the minigames for the materials.
ebc390 No.16079039
>>16078962
I need to know what the Stakes are, I don't want to go on an adventure to save 40 people, I need billions.
ebc390 No.16079041
Also, I just realized this Today but..yensid is Disney backwards, and is based on our Kike smashing friend
bb843e No.16079146
>Nomura
>Kojima
>Anno
>Miura
Why is it that every time a nip creates something popular, he gets this pampered prince syndrome where everyone is treating him like some irreplaceable genius who is crucial to continuing the IP, but he takes it for granted and fucks it up because he's "burnt out" or "wants to try new things" or developed some 80IQ mongoloid obsession like idols or fashion models or some new waifu which he will proceed to mindlessly shove into the forefront? Is jap autism a component, or is this just how it is when some rando lucks out, makes something popular and gets his ass kissed by his fans and bosses alike?
I've always been mad at how the heads of Western creative industries think they can backstab the original creators at the first opportunity and the IP will continue to flourish by brand power alone regardless of who's helming it, but this alternative where whoever was in charge of the thing when it took off turns into a spoiled manchild who'll fuck the thing up of his own volition seems only slightly less shit.
254681 No.16079187
>all these homos didn't play all 23 game and watch games, getting a keyblade that has better magic than ultima weapon
Magic's fuckin op
e16019 No.16079188
>>16079146
You forgot Sakamoto, Sakurai, Miyamoto…
c396ea No.16079209
Post games that are unironically better than KH3
86163a No.16079212
>>16079146
>or is this just how it is when some rando lucks out, makes something popular and gets his ass kissed by his fans and bosses alike?
More or less this, especially so with Anno who only stumbled upon success when he was put up to make Eva in a bout of depression, and set up to fail so the company could tax evade.
A bit less so with Miura, since he is pretty much stuck with Berserk due to its popularity, while having written himself entirely in a corner with its plot. If it was any less popular he would probably end it already, and go on writing shorter stories like the wrestler and pissing cyberloli. The guy just wasn't made for a 30+ year long haul, I suppose.
4c4481 No.16079602
>>16078924
>>16079017
>No, it's true. I just beat the game and the ending with Kairi and Sora (sitting on the tree) is just Riku imagining them both there in heart/connected and still there in his heart.
Yes, it's only in Riku's heart, that's why Isa, Lea, Ventus, Mickey, Aqua, Xion, Namine, Donald, Goofy and fucking Roxas all look at the exact same damn spot with a sad look on their faces. Hell, Donald has to be prevented from running over there by Mickey.
>Sora and Kairi's fates are unknown. Sora went to find her and nobody knows where she is
She didn't fade away from the spot where Sora was, is this also covered under your "Riku's heart delusion"?
>Terra came back. his heart was in Ansem's stand. Sora unlocks Xehanort out of his body and he regains his body. fuses with lingering will
>Roxas comes back thanks to Ienzo science. Needed a connection and Xion/Axel in danger wake him
>Xion is back and it is not explained how. Switches side mid-final level and becomes a good guy
>Saix defeated and becomes whole. Isa becomes good guy
This actually happened
>Namine is brought back thanks to ienzo science + Replica vessel. Not really sure if real namine or data namine, most likely latter since Kairi is still missing
It's obviously real Namine you twat, we fucking talked to real Namine in Final World where Sora specifically mentions "the thanks given by data Sora isn't enough". This also proves that Namine was temporarily booted out of Kairi's body.
>Xemnas gets a heart at the end before being defeated and the first thing he feels in decades is the loneliness of being the last member to be vanquished in the final battle, and the absence of his comrades
Nobodies need to nurture feelings in their heart to come back, he didn't just gain one, he finally allowed it to feel anything.
>Xehanort realizes he is defeated and gives the keyblade to Sora, acknolwedging he lost.
>Xehanort realizes he is defeated
THIS IS NOT WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED
Yes he was "defeated" but by the time it didn't matter and he could still activate it. He didn't admit he was defeated, he got his ass talked out of a goal he's been trying to achieve for over a fucking century by a guy he murdered along the way to achieving said goal.
d2fb60 No.16079785
>>16079602
No you retard
Riku looks at the bent Tree where kairi and sora like to hang out, there's nothing, then he makes a "oh.." expression and they appear. It's just in his heart, they're there in their hearts.
Sora didn't fade away. It's to imply they are not together at the end, just like in the beginning of KH1, implying the story is not over.
Xehanort was defeated, eraqus came out of Terra and talked him out of it. Xehanort GAVE SORA THE FUCKING X-BLADE by his own volition. How is that not conceding defeat you fucking imbecile
4c4481 No.16079873
>>16079785
>Riku looks at the bent Tree
Everyone looked at the god damn tree, in fact, Riku was the last to look at the tree, we only focus on him because he's the closest. Unless you're implying Mickey was waving off Donald getting closer because he didn't want him getting too close to the sun/sea?
>Xehanort was defeated, eraqus came out of Terra and talked him out of it.
He was physically defeated, but the entire point of the fight, the manifestation of Kingdom hearts and the X-blade were finished and Xehanort, at any moment, could have finished the job and I qoute
>Sora: It's over now, you lost!
>Xehanort: No, look, you are too late.
again, a few minutes later
>Xehanort: No it is too late
and again
>Xehanort: No, I can do this
At any moment, at any time, Xehanort could have finished the thing he'd been trying to do for decades after "losing" the fight. Which again, wasn't the point, Xehanort being stopped wasn't what needed to happen, Kingdom Hearts getting stopped from Universal Reset was the end goal for Sora and co. So, having the ability to just let it happen, he fucking does it and hands it over like a pussy even though he had already won.
8a9970 No.16080159
Just beat the game and got the secret ending. I really loved the ending, but I really felt disappointed that the KH story was so short and rushed to the ending, while the game's Disney worlds plotlines dragged on for too long.
Gameplay-wise, I think it's a complete upgrade to almost everything that was shown in previous games. The Gummi ship section of the game was sorely lacking in content and I wasn't thrilled with the open-world. I wish it had the linear, bombastic levels like in KH2's Assault of the Dreadnought.
I also really don't like that the Olympus/Hades Arena from previous games were gutted in favor of "Battle Gates" that only unlock after you beat the game.
Overall, I enjoyed KH3 more than I was disappointed. Great ending to the series, and I'm eager to see what Nomura has in store for us in the spinoff.
Also, I'm really glad that the board name spoiler I read a few weeks ago turned out to be a lie
4c4481 No.16080167
>>16080159
>I really loved the ending
8a9970 No.16080170
>>16080167
You don't know what baiting is, anon, fuck off.
a108a0 No.16080202
>>16080159
>Gameplay-wise, I think it's a complete upgrade to almost everything that was shown in previous games
What the fuck? No. Its a complete downgrade. Drives are relegated to fucking Command Styles, theres a fuckload of great abilities that are exclusive to Second Form or not even in the game, Reaction Commands were dropped entirely, Attractions make combat trivial. I did NOT wait a decade for a game with less depth than the first KH.
Youre either baiting or a shill, which is it?
4c4481 No.16080213
>>16080202
He also likes the ending, if that doesn't prove he's a faggot of the highest order or baiting I don't know what does.
You also forget to mention no strat comes close to magic spam for damage output, except for maybe Countershield's scaling damage return.
8a9970 No.16080222
>>16080202
>>16080213
>give my personal thoughts on the game
>hurr you must be baiting or shilling
When did this board get infested with faggots?
a108a0 No.16080227
>>16080213
I didnt even nother with magic because it didnt feel as ultilitive as 2s, is it really that broken?
>>16080222
Calling people out on objective inconsistencies is a time-old chan tradition, newfag. You want a hugbox, you know where to go.
4c4481 No.16080248
>>16080227
>I didnt even nother with magic because it didnt feel as ultilitive as 2s, is it really that broken?
The game is built for Firespam on bosses and Thunder spam on mobs. With the right keyblades/abilities/accessories (I don't remember their names off the top of my head) you can stack "reduce MP cost by 20%" "reduce each additional cast by 1 MP" and use the boosts. If you set it up right you can spam Firaga/Thundaga's at only 1 MP cost. It's fucking retarded.
4c4481 No.16080250
>>16080248
Did I forget to mention that even if a boss warps Fire spells will still track them? The only way for a Fire spell to miss it's target is if it runs into an obstacle on the way to the target, otherwise it tracks forever and it can do almost 180 degree turns.
a108a0 No.16080279
>>16080248
>>16080250
Amazing. Broken as it is, i would consider it a good thing. I think there isnt anything wrong with finding things like this in any games mechanics. The issue in this case is that its basically given to you as long as you know to read (or care to for that matter). I may try it out before i return it.
8c9bb8 No.16080450
>>16079873
>"No, I can do this!"
Xehanort looked like he was dying and probably wouldn't have the strength to use the X-blade anyway. Honestly, it would have looked less like they were making him sympathetic in a half assed way if it was more obvious that Xehanort had the choice of either dying trying to do a desperate action that may or may not succeed given his state, or if he just dies peacefully and gives up like a graceful loser. I hate it when you have villains that were written as unrepentent monsters but then near the end their personalities do a 180 to slightly sympathetic to give them some personality besides "mwa hah ha I'm evil". But if they really wanted to do something that makes them more rounded instead of just dying cursing the heroes, I'm okay with them being at peace when dying. There's a difference between a heel face turn that you want to be friends with the heroes and being sorry for what you did, and realizing you failed and even if you still hate the heroes and are still evil at least you want to admit that you're tired of the conflict and just want to fold the cards. At least the latter doesn't ruin the consistent personality they had before.
e40166 No.16080479
>>16077108
What KH is she from, and is it worth playing?
4ddd3e No.16080480
>>16080250
Wait, so they added a spell that practically homes in on enemies magic missile style, just to take an old spell and make it better anyway? Why?
7c2342 No.16080482
>>16078924
Don't forget the worst part
>Shitty optional bosses that aren't fun or challenging to fight
A Square Enix game without their famous optional super-bosses isn't a Square Enix game worth playing.
e16019 No.16080486
>>16080479
>What KH is she from
Looking it up, CoM, KH2, 358/2 Days, and KH3.
>and is it worth playing?
Apparently, none of them.
a108a0 No.16080509
>>16080482
I saw the last battle portal (or whatever the fuck theyre called) boss, which is supposed to be the hardest battle a la Lingering Will, etc, and the dude cheeses the whole thing with a couple cures/elixirs and Highwind. The games a fucking joke, cant be said enoigh.
>>16080486
Whoa, 2 is 100% worth playing. Tightest shit save for the couple of things added in BbS.
fbd27f No.16080521
>>16080486
She is only in 2 as a secret boss, and its a boss fight that more or less is a recreation of the Re:CoM fight with her but without the shitty deck building mechanics.
Her characterization is best established in the Days manga, or so I have been told.
e16019 No.16080523
>>16080509
>Whoa, 2 is 100% worth playing.
Can it be played as part of a self-contained entity, or does it require for one to become immersed in the autistic mess the story is?
4c4481 No.16080532
>>16080480
>Wait, so they added a spell that practically homes in on enemies magic missile style, just to take an old spell and make it better anyway? Why?
Fire in KHI used to be a spell that simply "curved" towards the target, in this game it outright heatseeks towards it no matter what the target does. I don't know who thought this was a good idea but they're retards
>>16080479
>CoM
Has a weird card-based/ARPG type gameplay. I don't know of another system like it off the top of my head. It's really something you've gotta try and see whether or not you like it. GBA version is piss easy to emulate, don't know about the PS2 one but it should be as well. If you're a buyfag you could get the 1.5+2.5 whatevers but they're just ripoffs if you don't like KH in general
>KH2
She doesn't appear in the base version, only Final Mix, in addition, she's just an optional boss with no lines of dialogue as far as I recall. KH2 has great gameplay if you play on Critical mode which is something only found on Final Mix.
>358/2 Days
Only game where she's a playable character, but it's only in the co-op/side content and the balancing for any of that is shit. In the main campaign she only follows you for one mission and I don't think you ever see her again. 358/2 Days is one of the one's I really wish got a proper Final Mix treatment instead of CoM or BBS because it's problems were far simpler to solve, but alas, devs thought it was too much effort and just HD'd the cutscenes from the original DS version. It's very clunky combat-wise and you don't play it all at once or it gets horrendously boring. It's the type of game you pick up for an hour or so everyday and put back down.
>KH3
Gameplay is completely average. Not outright offensive but not amazing, it's simplistic and gets repetitive after a third/halfway through.
>>16080509
>I saw the last battle portal (or whatever the fuck theyre called) boss, which is supposed to be the hardest battle a la Lingering Will, etc, and the dude cheeses the whole thing with a couple cures/elixirs and Highwind. The games a fucking joke, cant be said enoigh.
That's not cheesing, cheesing is using Countershield and since the damage it returns is in proportion to the damage the enemy would have dealt to you. You can play defensively the entire time and just send his attacks back at him taking out 1.5 healthbars at a time.
>>16080523
It's completely possible to, the plot to 2 isn't that messy and since the previous game will get told to you in cut scenes for the first 3 hours you'll be fine. But again, play it on critical mode.
also, I hope you enjoy THREE HOUR LONG TUTORIAL
a652fe No.16080602
>>16080479
fyi she doesn't actually have tits in game.
2e6bb1 No.16080700
>>16080602
Majority of the chicks don’t have any tits besides Meg from Herecules and Tifa from KH2.
4ddd3e No.16080704
4c4481 No.16080718
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>>16080700
Aqua had boob jiggle in BBS
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dc8d36 No.16080786
LUXU WAS XIGBAR ALL ALONG
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18a72f No.16081049
18a72f No.16081058
>>16072588
>last I remember reading he actually did finish the PlayStation 3 version of Final Fantasy 15.
Dude, dont tell me that. I didn't want to get angry today.
47d472 No.16081438
>>16080532
Counter shield is going to be the reflectga but with even less timing required it looks like, mixing it with a magic keyblade like fire is going to melt bosses for the average player, and it may even make level 1 fairly easy as well.
532115 No.16081991
Just popping in to say I finished the Game of the Year just a few moments ago. I know many of you have already beaten it but damn. When "Don't Think Twice" started playing in the credits, it was just sheer perfection in how it ended.
4c4481 No.16081997
>>16081991
>Game of the year
I've played every KH game since it's release including touching the mobage for a single day and putting it down in disgust and I am in no way as huge a faggot as you are shill-kun.
a108a0 No.16082040
>>16081991
Whats the rate per post?
c1fa61 No.16082052
>>16081997
>that picture
How many breads have you eaten in your life?
532115 No.16082073
>>16082040
The fuck is going on here, guys? I'm just fucking happy that the game I anticipated for a decade had ended so beautifully. I didn't actually think this game could've manage to merge all the confusing loose plotlines into one satisfying conclusion, but IT DID. IT ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DID!!!
4b0cdd No.16082222
a108a0 No.16082255
>>16082222
Fuck, who're X and Skuld again?
4b0cdd No.16082287
>>16082255
X – mentioned in Secret Report
Skuld - one of the newer masters post keyblade war, female counterpart to Ephemer aka the white haired kid who saves your ass with spam triangle
a108a0 No.16082322
>>16082287
Guess ill have to read that report. I knew about Ephemer, but never heard of Skuld or X. I only know Ava because her VO is insanely attractive and could make me fall for 3DPD.
4b0cdd No.16082336
>>16082322
It's the first 2 reports. X could be either of them. And at the same time Ava could be Kairi
4b0cdd No.16082338
>>16082322
Wait did you even play the game?
a108a0 No.16082345
>>16082336
Jesus.
I forced nyself through 3 if thats what youre asking. I got a report from one of the battlegatethings i think
4b0cdd No.16082351
>>16082345
Do the battlegates and then read the reports. Or just read the reports, there are 13 in total. Pretty much confirms either a continuation of the series or at least a Final Mix/DLC to pad out some things. They are all huge information dumps. And if you didn't get these, there is no way you are going to understand Strelitzia in The Final World
49d52a No.16082455
>>16082336
Isn't Ava dead along with all of the other union leaders?
>>16082287
>>16082255
Skuld is one of the dandelions and one of the 5 chosen to lead the new unions after the keyblade war. There used to be a lot more dandelions, but most of them flocked back to their own unions to help out and then died. The 5 are Skuld, Ephemer, Ven, Blaine and Marluxia(Lauriam). Even the player character in KHUx dies
The overall story is a bloated pile of shit at this point. Sora is the new Ash and he's never going to win in the end. He'll beat everyone, but fail to achieve his ultimate goal. For Sora, that's being with Kairi. For Ash, that's being a league champion. Everyone and their grandmother has been revived left and right. It works a bit in KHUx, because everyone that died is stuck in some dream world and the real world is a wasteland
>>16082351
Strelitzia in The Final World. Holy fuck. Is she actually alive?
532115 No.16082568
>>16082269
Fine, fag. I'll list some nitpicks I had with it. But don't you think for a second that I didn't love this game. It's definite Game of the Year material. Wrapping up Sora's confusing saga was the kind of massive narrative undertaking you don't normally see outside of MGS4. Another game which also managed to wrap things up neatly in its respectively confusing series. These ambitious "Lost"-types of stories can end so badly and unsatisfying if you're not careful, but I'm still in amazement that KH3 somehow delivered a truly great conclusion to this 10+ game narrative arc.
>characters and dialogue can get Really childish or cheesy at times
Hearing them give their speeches about the importance of friendships, the power of hearts, the goodness of "light" and badness of "darkness" made me roll my eye a couple of times. Sora and company also tend to pantomine or "exaggerate" a lot in their reactions and animations. Like if someone's angry, their reaction is visibly pouty and tantrumy and childish. Same thing when they act overtly happy or overtly sad. The kind that makes this rated T game feel like a rated E game for an audience of really young children.
The characters can deliver on the more serious moments just fine, but when try to be over-the-top in their animations or reactions, it does feel slightly condescending now that I'm a full grown adult.
>game is kinda easy
Once I got the hang of airstepping, chaining together combos and spamming a keyblade's transformations became a breeze. I ended up using the Happy Gear keyblade the most because it was my favorite to use. Its high Strength and Claw/YoYo transformations (great for close combat) + airstepping to close gaps between me and my enemies + the occasional healing magic = meant an easy playthrough overall.
My point being, the game wasn't super challenging early on. And once you get the hang of things, it becomes a cakewalk. I hardly ever used offensive magic at all (only for required sections, like saving that spanish superhero girl), never used Potions or items, never used Bistro recipes. I hardly used the shop much except for buying premade ships and Donald/Goofy's next weapons. By the end of the game, my inventory was full of so much money and stuff I never used because the game's combat was too easy.
>few Pixar worlds
Only two. Toy Story and Monsters Inc. As someone who grew up with Pixar and not this new Disney 3D Animation branch (the makers of Frozen, Tangled, and Big Hero 6), I was a little disappointed. I kinda wanted a Little Nemo or The Incredibles world, because I'm more nostalgic towards Pixar.
There's also the matter of there being only 7 Disney worlds (minus Pooh's nonworld). It just didn't feel like I visited a lot of Disney places.
>spent too long in the Carribean world
The most deaths I suffered in this game were due to ship combat. After I finished fully exploring this one island, I choose not to save often and move onto the onto the next. Then, some disappearing powerful ship showed up and raped me. I lost so much progress in that world, it infuriated me. I then spent an hour rechallenging that same ship for two hours and kept dying until I beat it. Fuck, man. I wasted to much time in the Carribean just for that.
So yeah. Those are my nitpicks. Now that I returned from whataburger after celebrating my completion of KH3 (didn't eat all day), I'm thinking more rationally now. But boy, that feeling that this game is the GotY hasn't subsided yet. It was just too damn good overall.
532115 No.16082697
One nitpick I forgot
>i care nothing for the new kingdom hearts storyline
Maleficent and Pete's quest for the black box macguffin was a waste of screentime imo. I thought they were going to play a bigger role in KH3's story at first (maybe as bosses), but they just walked around and ultimately did nothing. It was all just to set up the new storyline with Xigbar (lame twist btw) and his masked brony/furry buddies. Speaking of which, I wish that aftercredits scene and secret movie were left out of KH3. This is suppose to feel like the conclusion to Sora's saga, but the inclusion of a cliffhanger kinda ruins that. It's like you finish watching Citizen Kane and then in the aftercredits, Billy Mays' face shows up onscreen and says "But Wait, There's More".
7e2cb6 No.16082832
>>16082583
But that's not how you spell Skyrim.
65eb4a No.16082961
>>16082583
Wrong. Most fans of KH came from FF7 and came from that fandom when it was big at the time.
532115 No.16083295
>>16082784
<parroting
Have you even played this great game you're criticizing? The airstepping ability is the most fun I had in a game since Mass Effect 2's vanguard charge. The gameplay ability to zip across the map in combat, levels that are expansive and varied, enemies/bosses that are varied and sometimes massive, and traversable walls that you run on made this one of the most unique games I ever played. The airstepping ability took some time to master, but goddamn if it isn't fun. As far as Arpgs go, this game's gameplay is extremely top-tier, which caught me by surprise.
Parrot your shit opinion yet again without cause. That which can asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. I don't say this lightly or often, but this is truly an amazing game with a satisfying narrative conclusion (the best sendoff to Sora's saga that tied all the games' loose ends together perfectly in an emotional ending) + unique combat gameplay unlike anything else. Kingdom Hearts III is a serious GotY contender, and there is nothing that you can do about it.
a92769 No.16083325
>>16077252
>WoFF started off as FF for small children
and KH is FF for small children with Disney characters
a652fe No.16083346
>>16080718
>jiggle physics
It doesn't look like her B-cups moving at all, just looks like she has an overly bouncy walk and her entire torso is moving up and down.
>>16082697
>this is supposed to feel like the conclusion to Sora's saga
No it was supposed to be the conclusion to Xehanort's "saga", Nomura's been saying for years Sora's story would continue past 3.
0712e0 No.16083376
>>16083295
This game was never about tying up Sora's story. Nomura plainly stated this was just the end of the Xehanort saga. And the ending is shit, yes, it tied up all loose ends, in the most haphazard emotionless way possible.
>hey Ventus, I've been suffering for 10 years in the darkness waiting for you to wake up, have a good morning and a smile
Remember when Sora thought Riku was gone and burst into tears crying hugging him? None of the endings carry emotional weight, it's also shit because half of what made the characters story in anyway meaningful was there death. Case and point, no explanation is given for what the fuck happened to Xion, somehow she's revived, somehow she becomes a Xehanort clone (even though Roxas was the one DiZ described as being of darkness) and she just switches sides after Sora says she's a good girl. It's an ending, it ties up the loose thread, but it's hollow as fuck.
d2fb60 No.16083389
Here's a little world reviews:
>Olympus
+Last Boss was a disney villain and not a made-up heartless
+very battle-centric, no gimmick minigames
+finally finishes the story of Olympus which never did in previous games
-short compared to other levels
>Tangled
+Nice, big world map
+Using party members for unique reaction commands to go forward
+Only one mini-game and it was one of the few fun ones.
-Not a unique story, just the movie story.
-Last boss was a heartless and not disney villain. A combination of both is fine, but not just a made up heartless.
>Toy Story
+The mechas were a fun addition to compliment an early level when sora doesn't have his full toolkit yet
+Fun, big level
+One of the few good combat tracks in KH3
+Original Story
+Toy bosses were a creative idea to create a world-related boss fights
+Combat Centric, no mini-games gimmicks
Top tier world overall.
>Twilight Town
-No Sandlot, No train station, no other side of twilight town. just the main plaza and mansion
- just a hub, and not really a hub because you can just go to bistro from the map
-the weakest level, not even a chapter level just a "here's winnie the pooh, the mailbox and the bistro" town
>Monsters Inc
+ original story after events of the movie
+Randall is the world villain
+Cool World Design, unversed show up to switch it up and it makes sense with the story
+Combat-centric, unique reaction commands for the level. No mini games gimmicks and no fluff
- Final Boss is an Unversed instead of disney villain fighting, or fighting along side the unversed
Top tier world since it is combat centric, with unique story. More akin to KH2 levels along with Olympus, but this world is fleshed out gameplay wise with more content
>Frozen
-Arguably the worst level in design, going up and down the same mountain, just from different angles.
- not only not an original story, Sora hardly interacts with any character and is just off-screen through the plot of the movie. At least tangled incorporated Sora to the plot for an original twist to the story. Because of this, it allowed Flynn and Rapunzel as party members. In Arendelle, Elsa is not a party member because Sora's actions are all off-screen from the movie.
-putting fucking let it go musical as a cutscene and wasting resource time on this shit instead of original content
-The worst keyblade, just a weaker version of Agile Claws.
-The Disney villain doesnt ever show up, has no VA, and just turns into a heartless in a 2 second camera moment. Last boss is not a disney villain, just a heartless
+At least we got giant golem as a party member
>Pirates of the Caribbean
Nice idea (huge open world to explore with your ship) but bad execution (only available at the end instead of right off the bat). Since there's no reason to explore because at the end it doesn't really matter, you don't really have an encouragement to go out with the ship and play pseudo wind waker
-More ship battles than actual combat
-More fucking MINI GAMES than combat (collect the crabs, ship races, etc)
-Underwater combat is a nice addition but poorly executed or implemented. Should've been saved for traversing through underwater caverns or reaching through swim-only paths, instead it is used just a a flavor immersion in Port Royal and open world. They were kind of unsatisfied with it to the point they force a phase of the Xehanort fight to have underwater combat
- Jack sparrow only truly joins you for the end boss fight. until then his team attack is unavailable
+Nice CGI though
+Final boss is a disney villain,
d2fb60 No.16083390
Second worst level
>San Fransokyo
Starts really good (fighting on the bridge with unique reaction commands) then starts going bad (mini game) then they just throw you on one big map on the city to go from A to B until the level is done.
Although last boss is a disney villain, the fight is on top of baymax with shoot,punch,dodge and Triangle attack. You can just circle the boss and spam shoot.
+City is really nice, looks good, enemy placement is good. Combat music is nice. Baymax is best disney party member because he actually has utility
+original story following events of the movie
Not much else to say here. The level was ok, but not as good as the Pixar levels
>Winnie the Pooh
- It's just a mini-game hub with pooh
Thankfully, it's only 3 mini games
-They're all the same mini-games except with different rules/a twist
I guess we should be thankful they placed pooh at all to continue the tradition of the pooh world in every mainline game
Overall the pixar levels where the best levels, Frozen was the worst level, and other levels are ok. If they removed the mini games or at least not force them in mainline story, just by that all the worlds would be more enjoyable. Needs to focus more on combat and giving variety in combat (different enemy mechanics, different triangle commands in levels like taking cover or interacting with mechas for combat purposes, etc) instead of focusing on mini games to try and give variety. KH2 was great because damage and fun came from Sora combos, not from pressing triangle for something awesome to happen. Formchanges need a Drive gauge not to be OP, Attraction flows need to be removed and dev time should've gone to more spells and 1-2 more summons. Summons should be with the drive gauge and not mana, not to be OP.
a3cc9b No.16083582
Was I the only one that hated the fact 90% of the big chests were just Game & Watch tier minigames with no discernable reward?
567028 No.16083599
>>16083389
The best parts of Toy Story and Monsters Inc is KH villains getting either blown the fuck out in dialogue with characters from the world or actually getting bodied by them.
Seeing Edgelord Motorcycle Boy get door'd by Sully was worth most of the game.
15f2aa No.16083605
>>16083389
>>16083390
I'm surprised, I agreed with most of this but I thought Pirates and BH6 was where things really picked up. The exploring on the ship reminded me of wind waker. I wish there were more islands to go to. And the city was fun to explore, it just needed more stuff to do in it, but it was what I wanted out of TWTNW in KH2: running up buildings
15f2aa No.16083712
>>16083599
This. Woody telling young edgenort he doesn't give a fuck and that he's wrong was so satisfying. And the door recursion scene was amazing. The first part of the scene got leaked but him throwing the doors into other doors was unexpected great. Sometimes practical plans work best.
567028 No.16083715
>>16083712
Also the fact that Woody's initial step that drives away the darkness is the foot that has Andy's name on it. Everything about that scene is a refutation of edgenort's ideals and methods, it's fantastic.
Also Woody's casual insult of "you have no friends and no one has ever loved you".
15f2aa No.16083742
>>16083715
That's why the world with the original stories were so good. They took creative liberties with the characters that make sense in the circumstances they are in. And yes the fact that Woody drives The darkness away and not Sora made the scene better. Mike and Sully being the ones who wreck Vanitas worked better than if Sora pulled some keyblade stunt. Herc and Zeus finishing off Hades and the Titans worked too.
567028 No.16083757
>>16083742
Kingdom Hearts really shines when it's super edgy Final Fantasy-ass villains set against the idealism of Disney characters. It dims a lot when it's glorified marketing (Did we really fucking need to listen to let it go again?)
15f2aa No.16083796
>>16083757
I legit put three controller down and checked my emails during that part. It wasn't needed. Though I do wish the Disney worlds were more important. In 1 and 2 Sora needed to lock the keyholes. That simple gesture made the world seem like it was worth going to. In 3 the movie ends and you leave. I think the issue is that I was so driven to see the reveals after the last Disney world that I didn't appreciate a lot of the Disney stuff until now that I'm thinking about it. Maybe if Sora was trying to find the black box too or something. I mean Luxord literally said "this was a waste of time" and I even agreed, but I did like that world so I was alright with it.
I wonder if final mix or dlc will flesh out some stuff. Also there's an entire area next to the graveyard that has waypoints yet is empty, so I can see like 2+ worlds added
d31ee6 No.16083946
>>16083796
>Though I do wish the Disney worlds were more important. In 1 and 2 Sora needed to lock the keyholes. That simple gesture made the world seem like it was worth going to. In 3 the movie ends and you leave.
I've already covered why the reasoning for visiting the worlds is shit earlier in the thread, (and the power of waking is bullshit) but I realized why KH2 gets away with being "World: The Movie". First pass Mulan, Pirates, Atlantica, Lion King, Aladdin (2), Nightmare before Christmas were all just the normal movies story. It's Second Pass that really makes the edge and Disney mix because all the worlds then get this little sequel story independent of the movie that shows Sora and co. saving the friends they made. While also searching for Riku + an entrance to TWTNW. It makes cohesive sense why I am bothering to show up every which place.
f6a220 No.16084016
>>16083946
I think what's missing is the sense of mystery that kh2 had. We know exactly what the plan is from the start of kh3. Revisiting the worlds to see what's going on during the second half of kh2 really made it all feel like there's a point of being there.
Also it feels like some stuff didn't get resolved. Why was the world split in Toy Story? Why was the data world subplot brought up in Twilight Town? Why is Namine even on the box art if she only appears in story as a disembodied star? Why does Scala have a world emblem and field theme if the world is only seen for a few minutes and the theme heard for literally the time it takes for the game to load?
Granted I thoroughly enjoyed the game and I'm probably getting the final mix but I hope some things are addressed somehow
567028 No.16084020
>Pfft, I can do proud mode no problem
>Run into only two problems:
>Frozen's boss, which marks a point where you are expected to use airstepping to close distances and Shotlocks for area control
>The fucking lich, who I swear to fucking god is the only enemy to use the storm status
FUCKING THIS STATUS AILMENT IS AS BAD AS PRE-PATCH IRON MAIDEN FROM DIABLO 2 FUCK
f6a220 No.16084024
>>16084020
There is one other enemy in I think tangled world to use it but yes it's rare as fuck. Why were there even status ailments?
567028 No.16084038
>>16084024
Because you have them, I think. I don't think you can inflict Storm (how would it even work on enemies) but both you and heartless can inflict shock (damage nearby teammates) flame (stun and damage) and freeze (stun and…. maybe damage bonus?).
You can both deal stun but in different ways. Heartless inflict it with large attacks if you block, you trigger it with the right parries. It's a neat sort of nod that each spell has an associated status (I think) and would in a perfect world thus be a way to have certain strategies. Putting fire on a Large Body to buy room to deal with the casters in the area without worry for a bit, for example.
But no, you can handle pretty much everything by either snapping off an Attraction, or just mashing the shit out of attack.
f6a220 No.16084044
>>16084038
I used thunder a lot. I did notice the effect but it seemed so limited compared to the actual spell damage
567028 No.16084047
>>16084044
And while it's cool that Lich seems to deal each status, the fact that he uses Lightning as a solo boss is sort of funny.
fe0111 No.16084144
>>16083582
if you play all 23 and get high scores you get one of the few non-world keyblades
91e6f5 No.16084422
any way i can get donald and goofy to shut the fuck up about food? hearing donald say 'This might be a good spot to find some ingredients' in that raspy ass voice is so grating
and another thing. did anybody else found it weird that greek god Hades says the jewish phrase 'oy vey' in the localisation?
>>16084144
except ultima, none of the optional keyblades are worth the hassle
a108a0 No.16084451
>>16084422
>greek god Hades says the jewish phrase 'oy vey' in the localisation?
Its in the movie, so its a consistency thing plus the usual jew tactics.
f6a220 No.16084570
>>16084422
Even Ultima might not be worth it. The pirates keyblade is just so good, and by the time you unlock the recipe the game is 10 minutes from over
a108a0 No.16084692
>>16084570
I hadnt even gotten the recipe by the end of the game. Theres isnt a point in synthesizing anything, because as long as you look around for chests, the game gives you plenty of decent equipment. As well as the the whole 'short-as-fuck-game-highwind-is-OP' thing.
c70447 No.16084890
>>16084570
i didnt unlock ultima myself. i saw the requirements and thought, nah. the final boss is around the corner and the big hero 6 keyblade was good enough
f6a220 No.16084900
>>16084692
You can't even synthesize better equipment than what you get. Stack Sora with the ribbons for example, each of which are better than synthesis items
f6a220 No.16084904
>>16084890
The pirates one is even better. I was halfway to getting the required orichalcum+ and said fuck it. A few more hours of work for a keyblade I'll use for 10 minutes isn't worth it
8a9530 No.16084952
My god. Do you think they could have crammed any more boss fights and cutscenes towards the end? This felt like the opposite of what the boss gauntlet was like in KH2. While each boss battle at the end felt different, KH3 has these wide spaces and a lot of battles felt the same. The limitations and more conservative spacing for boss battles in KH2 made fights better and harder than KH3. It felt like I was going through the motions in a lot of battles and I wanted it to be over. If they didn't make those spinoffs that weren't spinoffs and released KH3 in a timely manner, it wouldn't have been such a clustered mess of ideas. I'm not sure how anyone can defend this.
532115 No.16085369
>>16084827
>connotatively hating a great game
>more parroting
Ok. I think I've heard enough, fag. Sounds like you just hate anything bearing the Kingdom Hearts title. All in bad faith and without substantial reasons.
e0886d No.16085857
>>16085369
I have no horse in this race of whether Kingdom Hearts is good or not but you do realize you're arguing with a TORpedo right? Impotent TORpedo at that.
a108a0 No.16086005
>>16085369
I gotta say, i actually commend your dedication to liking the game. Sometimes, you do just fucking like or enjoy something.
But again, the game is objectively very poor. A great many functions are unecessary, or very poorly executed. Ill go into a list for you.
I never found a practical use for Airstep outside of the areas of the worlds it was very clearly required to be used.
Flowmotion movement (as in not its offensive abilities) was not viable in nearly all the worlds. Olympus was the only time i used it, and only if there was a pillar around.
Both those bring me to the following. The worlds are too large and too empty. I on top of the previous two points, i constantly dealt with comboing a single enemy outside of the zone thereby despawning the corresponding mob, as well as just having to traverse a bunch of nothingness to get from place to place.
Magic is incredibly boring, lacking specialized utility, and is also incredibly overpowered/broken. We're also missing two very unique magics from 2, STILL missing three from 1, and a plethora from BbS.
As i glad as i am to have Shotlock back, a lot of them are simply reskined Ragnaroks, with others also being reskins of other Shotlocks.
On that same note, its nice that Command Styles are back, but as Formchanges its executed just terribly.
Formchanges also suffer from the same reskining issues, across almost HALF of the available Keyblades (Shooting Star and Honey Spout are the same, Happy Gear and Crystal Snow, and Favorite Deputy and Classical Tone as well).
Drive Forms are dropped entirely as a mechanic, which was an incredible addition to 2. Sacrificing one or more party members to temporarily power yourself up in the hopes that you wouldnt lose the fight was a very good double edged sword.
Regarding Keyblades, there are only 14 i believe, with only two of the spinoff games managing to go any lower. KH2FM had 24, for reference.
Lots or abilities that were normally obtained from levelling up in orevious games are locked behind Second Form, which is never used after you get Ever After, which is also never used again after getting Wheel of Fate.
The games difficulty is only ever present in the form of tediously spongey enemies. Many of the boss fights are very easy and done in short work. As an example, during the Vanitas fight, after getting him against a wall, i was able to just keep using regular attacks + Spell Weaver until he died. He never once got out of my attacks. Standard difficulty, if it matters.
Reaction Commands are also completely scrapped, taking a great deal of cool shit you could do to enemies and bosses alike with it.
The worlds are not well implemented, with their individual plots ranging from awkward to entirely pointless. I say this regards to Sora and co.'s integration. The formula would be to shoehorn, and then revisit with an original plot, reaffirming both the integrity of both the original property as well as Sora and co.'s existence as necessitive to KHs own plot. Another standard 2 set.
Gummi ships have been utterly neutered. The shift to open world style travel allows for nearly all encounters to be bypassed. This takes a great deal away from immersion, and effectively renders the entire mechanic of traveling from world to world as a triviality.
Gummi battles themselves also lack any semblance of challenge and scale from the previous installments.
Also, no fucking Olympus Coliseum tournaments? Even BbS had that shit, cmon now.
Where are Leon, and Cloud, and the rest of the FF characters? Thats a good chunk of life and heart just ripped from a series. Like we couldnt even give a throwaway explanation even? Seriously?
It also very plain to see that at least tue plot was redone at least once during development. Vexens nonexistent motive to suddenly be decent? How Demyx was like 'lol sure ill be a good guy vexen'. Why did Xemnas need Roxas and Xion if Marluxia, Larxene, and Demyx shouldve also been able to use Keyblades considering the three of them were Dandelions? Should Xion even be alive? Why does she only appear at the 5th to last boss fight, 20ish minutes before the game ends? The hell was the point of visiting all the worlds if Sora had the power of waking all along? Maybe the plot is tied up, but its by no means done well.
The bottom line is that this game is nothing short of an incomplete mess, and is not the game any of us, including yourself, waited an entire decade for, and thats final.
4c4481 No.16086135
>>16086005
>It also very plain to see that at least tue plot was redone at least once during development.
There's so many things that never pay off and even worse things with no set up.
>Riku's keyblade breaking is never fucking mentioned again
>Riku leaving keyblade for Repliku except Repliku is a bad guy, except not really mental delusion Repliku is a good guy now
>never explained how/where he got the new keyblade
>Ventus forgets what keyblade armor is
>none of the other characters get to have keyblade armor
>Super secret ultra training by Axel and Kairi just to be BTFO in the first cutscene
>Roxas having two keyblades when the reason he was able to do this was because Xion was dead, oh wait, Xion isn't dead
>apparently people can have Xehanorts heart in them but this means literally nothing as they can still betray Xehanort
>everyone manages to lose to Heartless swarm but are expected to defeat reality altering bad guys
Everything is fucking awful.
3f9d90 No.16086386
>>16086215
I gave up on this game. I knew it would never live up to kh2. The fact someone in this thread mentioned the gummi ship levels are terrible just makes me further slip into dispair. They made the gummi ship levels so awesome in 2.
815bac No.16086503
>>16083742
I think Tangled world worked pretty well. As well as any "follow the Disney plot" world can, anyway. Frozen represented the worst that type of world could be.
c25d66 No.16086510
>>16080602
Anyone rip her model for porn yet?
727fbc No.16086562
I can already see it happening
>KH3 Final Mix inevitably announced
>outrage from fans who spent $60+ on the vanilla KH3 (bonus points if it was a "collector's editon")
>"fixes" the problems of vanilla KH3
>more secret bosses hopefully shown
>around this time KH4 Announcement and secret movie in KH3FM
>Nomura either kills himself or gives the director's seat to someone else for the series
>Fans will outrage but SE won't give a shit
>KH4 becomes the MGS Survive of the series
It's like FFXV Royal edition all over again, except zero self awareness from not just developers but bc it's KH fans, the denial is already too great to those who flat out try to argue against the flaws but SE will fucking trudge on despite losing nearly all of the original staff that worked back when it was still just Squaresoft.
I really want off this ride.
the move to Unreal engine was a fucking mistake
Nobody should blame anybody for wanting this game to be at least like KH2. That was just the fucking bare minimum of quality standard. a Standard that SE failed to step up to multiple times.
495b0c No.16086931
>>16064988
>no drive forms, just the shitty focus system from bbs
I do miss drive forms, but I did think the formchanges were nice enough.
>no oathkeeper
>no oblivion
Not for you at least :^)
>Sora forgets all his character development from kh2 and regresses into a generic mouthbreathing shonen protag
He's always been this way.
>Kairi and Axel spend the entire fucking game off screen training with the keyblades they pulled out of their ass only to completely job in the final battle, along with everyone else who isn't Sora
That really pissed me off. They gave Kairi a keyblade for no reason in 2 so I was glad they gave her a reason here. Then they just throw it all away for what I assume to be a DLC. How they handled Axel was also infuriating, but to a lesser degree in comparison.
>no final showdown between Terra's lingering will and Xehanort he does show up to smack Terranort a couple times and then fucking vanishes into thin air
What got me about that scene was that everyone seemed to understand Sora resurrected them from the dead and they effectively got a reload from last save, but then the scene plays out like normal except Lingering Will shows up for no reason and disappears off screen as you said.
>every world is simultaneously too fucking big and open yet full of railroaded corridors
The only world I truly disliked was Frozen's. It was nothing but a long corridor and there was hardly any element of integrating into the movie's plot other than Sora talking to Anna and Elsa briefly. Larxene sending you to a random ice prison also made no sense.
>Xion and Roxas just pop up out of fucking nowhere in the final battle
Now Roxas was teased throughout the game, and I assumed Xion was Norted from the get go. However she wasn't Norted at all, had no reason to fight as a Darkness, and defected almost immediately. That was pretty fucking dumb.
>>16065324
That's also something that really got me
<I'm leaving to save Kairi
>Next scene Kairi is there, everyone is happy, but Sora fades out
What the shit is this?
>16068819
I wish they were Limit Breaks. They're called Attractions and they are available from level 1. Actually they're nigh on mandatory. There is a mechanic to getting to use them in battle, a random enemy will be marked with a ring that takes about a minute to expire. You need only hit that enemy once to get the Attraction command. This game also throws other Triangle to Win commands at you, but there's no way to shuffle them or select a specific one. If you want to use your Thundaza command, but the Teacup command procced first you HAVE to jump in the teacups or wait the 20 or 30 seconds for the command to fall off. You can press L1 to cancel them, and you can turn the animations off, but it's still, hands down, THE most annoying thing they shoved into this game.
>>16076389
Of course, but aside from Sora's parents being dead in 1, and forgot his existence during and after CoM, they must wonder where he is during 2, 3, and maybe DDD.
ef99a6 No.16086957
How do form changes work without command decks?
815bac No.16087064
>>16086957
Keyblade forms just build with combos same way Aqua's spellweaver did in 0.2. Grand magic just builds with use the same way.
bee225 No.16087121
>>16078901
The worlds are basically neighborhoods and their population depends on how big the neighborhood was. Hercules world is several greek cities, but twilight town is only one city, a forest, and a beach.
Destiny islands is a small archipelago with at least one small town. The island that Sora and his buddies go to is kind of like a hangout for all the little shitters and is based on a disney attraction called Tom Sawyers island.
Also like half of the story in KH3 was obviously cut. They basically shoehorn in almost every important plot point into an endgame sequence that obviously should have taken place over the entire second half of the game. The final boss also feels rushed.
I think you were supposed to start going to square worlds after beating Pirates and they just said "fuck it, we'll do it in the sequel"
The "actual" final boss will probably be in the final mix version too, as well as fights with individual organization members.
3eff5d No.16087278
>>16087121
Teranort vs Lingering Will really felt like it should have been an actual fight, i said at the time right away that this will be in the Final Mix version.
4c4481 No.16087295
>>16086931
> This game also throws other Triangle to Win commands at you, but there's no way to shuffle them or select a specific one. If you want to use your Thundaza command, but the Teacup command procced first you HAVE to jump in the teacups or wait the 20 or 30 seconds for the command to fall off.
You got this detail wrong, took me half the fucking game but you can cycle through the commands with L2
3eff5d No.16087300
>>16087295
In the games defence you are retarded as it tells you right at the start.
4c4481 No.16087307
>>16087300
It probably did but so many of those tutorials were so simple I just stopped paying attention to them to my detrimemt.
406ced No.16087609
>>16087278
Yeah, it feels a lot like the Sora vs Roxas fight in KH2. Would make sense too
>KH2FM you fight lingering will
>KH3GM you fight as lingering will
1bb224 No.16087690
Gay. Even FFXV was better than this.
a108a0 No.16087802
>>16086135
Another good chunk of shit to be discontent about. Regardless of any corporate interference from either side, Nomura just wanted to be done with this game. Its evident even in rewrites.
14b47f No.16087851
>Xigbar is Luxu
I think I just had a fucking brain aneurysm.
0809af No.16087932
>Nomura was so retarded he couldn't just remake 358/2
I want to be able to play as every fucking light side faggot, including Dobald and Goofy. You gave Riku a full moveset Nomura, you let me play as Aqua, I want fucking everyone to have 1 V 1 fights with "real' Organization XIII
fe0111 No.16088086
>>16086931
>What got me about that scene was that everyone seemed to understand Sora resurrected them from the dead and they effectively got a reload from last save, but then the scene plays out like normal except Lingering Will shows up for no reason and disappears off screen as you said.
This is the most fucking infuriating thing for me. Everyone simultaneously recognizes the time travel and completely ignores it a second later. I mean there are established "rules" to time travel in this game, but let's ignore those. Does Kairi just have time powers? it fries my brain still why this happened. I was hoping that Kairi was able to survive using princess of light powers and that we'd all fight our way out of wherever she had hidden Sora's body (and the others). But no.
just wat
fe0111 No.16088099
>>16087609
I don't remember anywhere near the number of tutorials in the previous games. Are they a sign the game is an unfocused, overbloated mess?
Yes.
Yes they are.
495b0c No.16088220
>>16087295
Holy shit I wish I knew that sooner. It doesn't really change my opinion because I don't want to have to shuffle away that shit constantly, but that's good to know.
>>16087300
>>16087307
As he says many of those tutorials only warrant a quick skim at best. Even with this I would still much rather have Attractions be a skill that can be unequipped.
>>16088086
I honestly think it was supposed to be a meta-reload of sorts, which got used more properly in the final confrontation a bit later. Even so the most annoying part is the fact that they immediately forget about it AND that events play out differently for no reason at all rather than them working together to alter their failure.
I'm pretty sure Nomura wanted to fit The Final World and everything that follows it in better, couldn't, and just said fuck it and crammed it in anyways. You can remove that entire section and just start from the seemingly entirely different timeline where Lingering Will steps in and almost nothing would be lost at all.
b383ba No.16088340
>>16088099
KH2 was pretty tutorial heavy for the first 5 hours, dropped away after that. This game feels the need to tell me how each and every keyblade works like I'm not going to open that shit in menu
318680 No.16088355
Lookie here, Nomura commented on the plot in what i believe is the artbook. Not much tho.
eef412 No.16089195
>>16088355
>I had quite a tough time this time around
>This time around
So, he wrote on the fly, didn't have a clear an concise story through out all these years, never meant to close up holes.
d2fb60 No.16089679
>>16083757
Basically, this.
every single level with original story and level of freedom was good
levels that just rehashed the movie plots with sora peeping on the events off screen were bad
532115 No.16090239
>>16084570
Got all 7 Orichalcum+ that's necessary to getting the Ultima Weapon. Holy fuck is it not worth the trouble.
237d5b No.16091122
>>16090239
Most speed runners are using Ever After
1840f1 No.16092230
>>16091122
Speedrunners never bother with Ultima unless they're running 100% or JJ
815bac No.16092238
>>16090239
Ultima's big selling point is how fast you get the meter up for formchange and grand magic. And it having 13 in both stats which nothing else can reach. Also being the only keyblade to actually look like a weapon. Whether or not that is wroth the grind for what is essentially just the final boss gauntlet and battlegates is up to you, I guess.
318680 No.16092489
>>16092238
Ive heard the Classical Tone has higher magic than Ultima. I tried checking the wiki, but for whatever twisted reason, they still use + and - signs instead of the actual fucking stats.
bc1239 No.16094703
Dunno how far in pages thread is, but I figured out why there's no FF characters.
Final Fantasy VII HD has been delayed in definitely, which was supposed to release and entwin with this story
It maybe Square's fault again.
db4e10 No.16102177
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>>16063319
they are in a world inside another world.
the yong xehanort said that he would have to go " the bottom of the abyss". so the bottom of their world would connect to the worlds that were movies / videogames in their world.
db4e10 No.16102334
>>16088340
there's a fucking tutorial after the game ends.
>>16087851
if Xigbar didn't die how was the key made ?
did we see the darkness go up to the sky ? i remember seeing his guns disrepair