5c357f No.16033262
Well I had time to kill and my brother already bought it, I had zero expectation going in
I played it and I fucking platinumed it simply because i'm a big fan of the classic games, and I can say that GoW 2018 is one of the most thought provoking experiences i'v ever had playing a game, just not in any of the ways i'd imagine they were hoping for.
Almost every single aspect of this game is horrendously flawed, this game is as if you gave someone a blank check and all the man power they could possibly need, but they had no fucking originality or talent whatsoever.
This game is trying to be every single trendy game all at the same fucking time, but it doesn't understand why any of those games are ("good") in the first place
It's Zelda, Borderlands, Uncharted, Last of us, Skyrim, it's as if every single time someone said
>hey wouldn't it be cool if this was in the game
They actually put it in the fucking game with no plan for how to implement it well, I literally found the exact mechanic as fucking Witch Time in a random fucking chest
The only thing this game isn't is God of War. Aside from the Iconograghy of Kratos, the Chains, and double thumb stick click "Spartan Rage" it has nothing in common with the original games, at least when it comes to how well crafted those games actually were, and how shallow this one is.
Everything this game does it does so at a surface level of competency, there isn't a single thing about this game that is impressive.
Literally the only thing about this game that was actually enjoyable the majority of way though was the dialog, but while the Dialog isn't bad, the story actually sucks shit.
You can't make any fucking progress in this game's main story without being told you have to go somewhere else first to do some arbitrary task to get some piece of shit item so you can actually taking steps to your fucking goal of spreading the ashes, until you are told yet again you can't continue to make any fucking progress before doing more bull shit.
It takes forever to actually get to the fucking mountain and then you find out it was the wrong mountain the entire fucking time, then you need a way to the real mountain and then once you have a way, you break the fucking gate in a cutscene due to a boss, meaning you need to do even more bullshit to fine another path.
The structure of the narrative is the more unnecessarily elongated thing i'v ever seen, the game would be far better off it all of the shit you do that wasn't spreading the ashes was just side missions or something at least I wouldn't feel like I was wasting my time if I actually chose to do those things.
I could say so much more, but everything in this game is poorly thought through,
>The gear and level system makes the combat's balance shit,
>The combat isn't nearly as good as a god of war game's combat should be,
>There are like 5 puzzles that are reused 100 times each,
>The enemy variety is low,
>The chains are far too shit for one of the most iconic game weapons ever,
>Nothing Kratos does is impressive compared to what he used to be.
>The entire game is just a 30 hour prologue setting up the next game
>90% of the game feels like fucking padding
>The thing that makes Kratos worried about how his son sees him is the fact he kill his father, Zuse, you know killing his father, but not the thousands of innocent people he slaughtered in service of Ares.
The longer this game went on the more it just fell apart at the seems, and that's not good for a game that 30 hours. I just wanted it to be fucking over so many times, the only thing the game made me feel was a desire to play the old games again rather then this boring shit.
21e991 No.16033271
>he kill his father xuse
Wait, so it's literally his wife's son? I thought that was just a meme…
5c357f No.16033277
>>16033271
No Kratos's Father was Zeus, my bad. the boy actually is his son.
b73b17 No.16033280
>>16033262
This game was a spit in the face of old GoW fans and it pisses me off as I loved the old GoW titles.
96559d No.16033289
You must be wrong OP, everyone loved Dad of Boi, you must just be a no life nerd clinging to the past for no reason.
Get in with the times, have a soy latte.
I'm sorry
5c357f No.16033294
Like God of War never had a strong narrative line going from GoW 1 to 2 to 3, the narrative wasn't very consistent in how it dealt with characters, Kratos at the end of 1 isn't at all the same as the Kratos at the start of 2, so much so they needed a prequel to justify it, but at least each game individually worked as a story. and at least GoW 1 and the PSP games actually really worked as a trilogy dealing with Kratos's family, his loss of humanity and justifying his anger at the gods.
>>16033280
>>16033289
This game actually makes DmC look like a faithful Devil May Cry game in comparison.
1e6a68 No.16033300
>>16033289
You forgot to call him out for his absolutely toxic incel opinions.
27bdcb No.16033307
>>16033262
It got GOTY. You and everyone else who thinks the game is bad are in the minority.
3f29fd No.16033309
>>16033294
DmC was a bad copy of an actual DMC game, while Stepgod of War is a completely different, worse game that's only related to actual GOW by one character, one weapon and the name. Thankfully, DmC didn't kill the franchise, but nuGOW absolutely did, since it made boatloads more money than the original trilogy.
5c357f No.16033312
>>16033307
Yeah and that's extremely telling of just how far in quality video games have fallen, since it makes perfect sense why the game got GOTY.
you give this game to some Normalfag who only plays like 2 games a year they're going to be blown away by it, since it's compaired to all the other trash coming out, it really is better then the majority of everything else.
f4f149 No.16033316
I think it's an okay but very flawed game. At least RDR 2 didn't win game of the year because that game is even more mediocre than this one.
3f29fd No.16033318
>>16033316
>I think it's an okay but very flawed game.
How to shit words that don't actually mean anything substantial: Special Ed Edition
913dba No.16033329
I just replayed the entire series on my Vita and PS4, it actually hurts to see how hard they cucked this franchise, from gory over the top hack and slash to cinematic shit with souls combat, did they keep the hidden health/magic upgrades in the newest game? Or the relics you could pick up to get bonuses in new game+ like infinite magic/rage? What about the mandatory sex minigame? Does he even behead a single boss in that game?
What hurts me the most is that judging by the few cutscenes i saw on cucktube they're going towards a "wife's son kills kratos just like he killed zeus", even though kratos can't fucking die, he killed TWO greek gods of death and absorbed their powers, he even made fate itself his bitch(es) so it's not like he's fated to die at the hands of wife's son.
458e09 No.16033340
Nice OP, and I don't say that sarcastically
I just have nothing to add lmao
5c357f No.16033341
>>16033316
I really don't hate the game, but it had no right to be as flawed as it is, all of it's problems already have solutions we've known about for years.
>>16033329
The theme of the game was actually breaking the cycle of "gods killing there parents" or something.
I actually don't hate what they did to Kratos in the game, for what it is it works. but at the same time the entire Philosophy behind Kratos's character is that he's irredeemable, He's already passed the point of no return, and only realized how much of a monster he became when it was far too late to do anything about it.
His tragedy was that despite finally learning what he lost, that no matter how hard he tried he could never have his family again, and he could never forget what he had done, descend to forever suffer with the guilt of what he had done.
So what does this game do? it forgets about his old family, gives him a new one, and makes Kratos a better person.
It misses the point fucking entirely.
f9f01a No.16033343
So the game is solely remarkable by virtue of budget?
aka the entire AAA industry in a nutshell
7f86dd No.16033345
>>16033262
pretty much nailed it
As is common practise now, half ass a misappropriated IP and replace the fans
>>16033307
>the minority
f4f149 No.16033347
>>16033341
That's one of it's flaws, is that it wants to be a soft reboot while also making reference to previous entries in the series. They would've been better suited to just start over but kept the general premise of a fallen god trying to start again bla bla. I feel as if the old gow had run its course anyway and it's not like I was attached to the story.
9a2adc No.16033372
I found the game to be rather dull. I think I only played long enough to beat the first giant. I may force myself to play though the rest of it, since I was able to suppress my disgust and beat Horizon Zero Dawn.
566772 No.16033391
>>16033262
reading your thoughts on this game give me the biggest deja vu. a few months after the release of dad of soi I made small a post detailing how the gameplay consisted mostly of elements of other games slapped together. I also made this point
>Literally the only thing about this game that was actually enjoyable the majority of way though was the dialog, but while the Dialog isn't bad, the story actually sucks shit.
this game must have had several writers because whoever wrote the dialog actually seems to have talent. worse thing about the story is that everything after kratos gets his chains back is so fucking retarded that it shits on every little bit of character development between kratos and boi. most of the story isn't that bad, it's just that the climax is beyond stupid.
I don't even understand how they got it so wrong, while the motivations of kratos and boi were dumb, the story was building up tension between the nord gods and kratos and it was the perfect moment to have kratos go on a rampage slaying everything in front of him, had this happened boi behaving like a shithead would have made sense. but no, instead you go on a pointless fetch quest, a filler level, you climb the mountain yet again, and then one of the most stupid scenes I've ever seen in a video game unfold. how did no one notice the that HUGE FUCKING DRAGON, did baldur teleported behind kratos or something?
>>16033343
yes, this game is presentation above all.
566772 No.16033398
221444 No.16033455
>>16033307
>"eat shit, one hundred milion flies can't all be wrong" the post
6ee6c4 No.16033462
>>16033455
actually, he's trying to make you feel bad you're not eating shit
c93885 No.16033464
>>16033307
>popularity=quality
cattle don't know what's best for them.
887e67 No.16033506
I didn't think nuGoW ruined the lore for me. Not like how fucking terrible Halo 4 & 5 were, anyways. But I also don't recognize it as a good GoW game.
The IP got it start by being overly violent, had a specific twin stick type of gameplay with the Blades of Chaos, had sexy women and minigames, and lacked this RPG like armor/weapon customization bullshit.
Now, the violence is very tame by comparison.
The new over-the-shoulder combat view, focus on Leviathan Axe style gameplay (not fun Blades of Chaos style rampaging), and Kratos' slowed down reflexes make it a Massive departure than its predecessors' gameplay.
It's only Norse Goddess is the Aphrodite equivalent. One of love and beauty. And she looks hideous and Kratos doesn't sleep with anyone here. He just waxes on and on how strong and powerful his giantess wife was. Cuck.
And lastly, the previous games lacked RPG elements. You could take your normal Blades of Chaos and beat the whole game with them. Not spend time in menus picking out what cute outfits and accessories you wanna bedazzle your Axe with. The introduction of RPG elements slows down an already slow game to begin with.
I guess my biggest with this game is that it uses the GoW title when its gameplay and story resemble Nothing of GoW. The change to slower "Leviathan Axe focused" gameplay with RPG bullshit, the change to move away from violence and sex. All these drastic changes are going to make this IP unprofitable because it removes all the importang things that made GoW successful. In the end, it's a mediocre game (if you ignore the "GoW" name), but feels more like an apology to Sarkeesian who complained about the previous entries' "toxic masculinity". There's even a scene where Kratos straight up apologizes for killing so many people in his past life. And this game is being propped up with Game of the Year awards because journo critics know the poor sales means that the public is actively rejected their sjw propaganda suppository.
57c2ae No.16033550
>multiple dodges is nice
<but this is actually a dumb idea since normal movement should be able to dodge, defeats the purpose of normal movement
<this is also even worse with melee attacks gluing you automatically to the enemy
<gay fucking rpg shit in a game
518a1a No.16033558
>>16033262
Thanks, you saved me 30€
b98aab No.16033640
>>16033262
Sounds about right, Sony games usually have a fuckload of idiots who buy the games because of their expensive marketing campaign that I'm pretty sure includes infiltration of internet forums.
cd5d4f No.16033667
>>16033262
>30 hour to finish Dad of Boi
i know level grinding and loot farming pad this shit as much as all the walky talky segments… but 30 fucking hours?
you sure have a lot of patience OP
84c84b No.16033695
>>16033329
Be ready, because if i'm not mistaken the plot will probably get worse and go as follows:
>Numale of War 2 begins
>Thor inmediately comes down and kill Kratos in a QTE unwinnable battle
>Atreus/Loki cries and gets kidnapped
>World Serpent appears and takes Kratos away
>WS revives Kratos
>The process lasts like 20 years
>When he comes back, Ragnarok its still going, Atreus becomes MCU Loki and a unwanted, bullied son in the Odin family
>norse mythology shenanigans, Kratos gets involved, kill more gods
>Kratos kills Thor
>Kratos face Loki, Loki doesn't recognize his mother's husband authority, throws a fit and they fight in yet another QTE battle (with impressive shapeshifting moves from Loki)
>Kratos kills his wife's son and cries
>with Spartan Salt levels of greif, he goes to kill Odin and the rest of the Norse pantheon
>roll credits
Honestly, as retarded as this may sounds, it's logical and the most probable course of action.
4bd53c No.16033709
3035fd No.16033756
d138de No.16033795
>>16033262
>>16033280
>>16033294
>>16033329
>>16033506
God of War was always a basic as fuck mediocre hack and slash filled with poorly designed QTEs and a world that americanized Greek mythology in the worst of ways.
GoW was never fucking good despite Dad of Soy being an even bigger piece of shit.
6075d2 No.16033821
>>16033795
A mediocre game back then, is a mastepiece in today's gaming market. Sure the combat wasn't as deep or good as DMC(the GoW creator admitted it in an interview), but it functional, it was challenging at times, and you couldn't mash square to win all times, and for better or worse it had more puzzles and platforming than DMC, so at least it had something different. Though it did 2 things right, it did the angry protagonist just great, and it had nice set-pieces where you can fight in.
Lastly, unlike God of Soy, it starts with action and in the third game, after watching the cutscene, instead of walking slowly or climbing some stuff, the first thing you see is a bunch of enemies surrounding you ready to attack, and the first thing the tutorial tells you(without pausing the game), isn't how to move, but how to attack, it put you right in the action.
d05f65 No.16033847
What's sad is that these games are competent enough at first glance and even first plays to pull off the fake PR high reviews they shill out. You can't post something like this within two weeks or so of the game dropping. The shills will eat you alive and even your Facebook friends will defend it because logically why would a AAA game be as bad and pozzed as you say?
But it is and it's only hiding behind a triple A franchise. It's every bit of a Netflix original.
a4c74e No.16033869
>>16033795
>Americanized Greek mythology
Actually it wasn't that far off. The first game was structured, narratively, like a classical Greek tragedy. Greek myth is filled with violence and sex, I think the game's style suits the source material. I would certainly say it is more inspired than most fantasy games.
632917 No.16033971
>>16033307
I'd say the majority actually never bothered with it because they were too busy with Fortnite or Fate/whatever.
861a01 No.16034049
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16033307
>it won a meaningless award from a bought out, pandering, shilling expo so that means it must be good
This is what normalniggers think despite shitshows like the Oscars proving them otherwise.
>>16033756
Then you have shit taste and are easily entertained.
11cdcf No.16034067
>>16033795
>implying Greek mythology is even worth having around
Zeus was a pederast, Aphrodite was an adulteress, Hephaestos a cuck and Hera a whore. The simple truth is the Greeks had luck on their side, not a moral, healthy, functioning and just society. They were lucky not to be absorbed by the superior Achaemenids.
d138de No.16034073
>>16033821
>A mediocre game back then, is a mastepiece in today's gaming market
Considering DMC5 exists and will have DMC4 combat despite the god awful character designs, you're wrong
GoW certainly isn't one of those, it's just a mediocre hack and slash.
>>16033869
>Actually it wasn't that far off
Typhon is a fucking titan that blows air at you, if that isn't the most generic shit I have ever seen I don't know what is.
>>16034067
>implying Greek mythology is even worth having around
Mythology is full of that shit in any culture, you're a fucking idiot
156106 No.16034089
>>16034067
I hope you realize that pedestry isn't actually actually what constantly gets pushed right?
Its literally from people taking quotes out of context and relying on the fact that nobody actually reads the whole text.
b98aab No.16034097
>>16033971
I wouldn't say that, the majority of the gaming consumer base are fucking idiots as seen on Reddit and Cuckchan. The real issue is that games like this and nu-Spiderman tend to make more money than a more experimental game like Ys or Wonderful 101. Add on to the fact that a fuckload of revenue comes from Micro transactions, and you have an industry that's no longer focused on trying to make a solid product for the consumer but rather a heavily marketed piece of shlock that ripped off another game but got meme'd as a innovative masterpiece that breaks new ground despite being the same shit as other games and focuses more on looking cool with preset animations than giving the player control to look cool using the players own skill. It's why I never trust games that target 30FPS on console versions, because while it may work for slower games like turn based RPGs and puzzle games. Games focused on moderate to fast paced combat usually suffer in the gameplay department. Look at BotW as a good example, sword play is clunky, weapons are always breaking and precision moves are always focused by chance rather than skill. Hell even in the AAA space it's shown that Fortnite versions that run at 30 FPS have a significant gameplay disadvantage compared to the 60 FPS brethren.
My point is that games like dad of war, asscreed and BotW are becoming the norm because redditors can't make their own opinions and are basically being made into a bunch of mindless drones by big corporations like Sony, Nintendo, Ubisoft, Activision, etc. Hell EA knows that people are going to eat up every Battlefield game, so they don't even bother trying to fix their reputation since normalfags/redditors will buy their games regardless. Basically right now the only games that can sell over a million copies are Reddit memes. Nier sold because of 2B's ass, Smush sold because it's Mario vs Pikachu, Persona became a franchise because of it being one of the few games that sold the Vita which basically boosted it's brand, etc. No one's making good games anymore because good games don't sell like memes do, and that worries everyone here.
4e466c No.16034098
>>16034067
Literally every mythos has shit to do with vile/evil/bad acts and mistakes. They serve as stories of wisdom to show what such things would lead to and to teach you to avoid them. You are pretty fucking retarded.
5c357f No.16034138
>>16033795
>>16034073
I have to disagree about God of War having been mediocre, while it's never had as much raw combat depth as Devil May Cry 3 and onward. the God of War series still excelled in almost ever aspects of it's design, save for the story being consistent, since the series changed directors so much.
but as far as God of War 1 goes
The combat, the atmosphere, the writing, the pacing, and how every aspect of the game built up to the final boss with Ares, all of this was done extremely well. I can't think of a single glaring flaw with the game, even the QTE's weren't bad in the first game it was only later though the years that QTE's became extremely over used shitty.
I really do think the first GoW is a masterpiece that was every bit as impressive as Devil May Cry 1 was for all of the unique things it brought to the table, and you know God of War 1 was that fucking good, since Just like Devil May Cry and Just like Batman Arkham it started having all it's ideas ripped off, because what it did, it did so extremely well that everyone wanted to leach off of it's success.
While other GoW games never really reached the same level as the first game in terms of every single aspect of the over all packages quality. The games always tried to improve the gameplay and spectacle, and I honestly think God of War Ascension has some of the most fun combat i'v played in a while. it's just a shame the rest of the game isn't that great, due to them running out of ideas, for a story that honestly had no right to continue in the manner it did, after the first game.
330a41 No.16034148
>>16034067
Zeus was a degenerate, he put his dick in everything, he even transformed into a goose to dick a woman.
1c789b No.16034168
>>16033307
Being the best game of 2018 and being a good game are not synonymous.
>>>/v/16034147
Nice bait.
f3edfd No.16034175
God of War is another open world conversion of franchise that doesnt need it, its good but its not God of War, its not doing what God of War is great at
1c789b No.16034180
>>>/v/16034171
That's what it is.
>whitey
>larpers
>other wise
You're either a nigger, baiting, or both.
622b27 No.16034183
God of war as we know it is over after Ascension sold like bottled farts. At least we got something that plays like God hand and Dark souls mixed together.
5e2692 No.16034190
>>16034175
This. It's a good game, it's just not a good God of War game.
2d23ea No.16034200
I still can't get over the fucking perspective. The way it is so zoomed in and off center makes me physically ill. I couldn't imagine actually playing a whole game like that.
5c357f No.16034205
>>16034183
>At least we got something that plays like God hand and Dark souls mixed together.
Sure if combining both of those together was done very poorly
330a41 No.16034213
>>16034183
t.someone who never played those games, but heard his favorite soytuber redditor say they were good
>>16034190
>>16034175
You must be fucking retarded if you think this piece of shit is decent, that's like calling yaiba ninja gaiden z a good game on par with the rest of the series.
85f472 No.16034215
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play. This is required viewing. Some TLDR:
>everything the game does is done better in other games
>combat is both handholding but it's handholding to the point that it breaks the game and makes it unfair on higher difficulties by locking you into "epic" animations while someone sits behind you and kicks your ass
>the story is a clusterfuck and told poorly because it does not dedicate properly and has characters flip their attitudes around for no reason
>the equipment and extras is just padding to appease fags who want to see bars get filled
a09ac9 No.16034227
>>16034175
>>16034183
>it's a good game, it's just not a good x game
Fuck you dumb niggers. I absolutely hate this fucking non argument. If it's a bad x game, then it's a shit game fucking regardless.
d138de No.16034238
>>16034138
>The combat
Mediocre
>the atmosphere
There's nothing, it's just a big dumb Hollywood inspired nothing
>the writing
Most basic as fuck revenge story I have ever seen and most of it is pulled straight out of mythology
>I really do think the first GoW is a masterpiece that was every bit as impressive as Devil May Cry 1
Jesus christ, this is Halo fan tier shit
af1d3e No.16034242
5c357f No.16034254
>>16034200
>>16034238
Okay now it sound like your the one who didn't play the game, how was the Temple that held Pandora's box not extremely well made, as you went deeper though the temple you discovered the story of the man who made it, and how he literally scarified his own family and sanity to appease the gods yet by the end he got fucking nothing for it.
You sound like you run though DMC1 with out examining anything in the game closer and then say,
>Devil May Cry games never had good stories
d138de No.16034277
>>16034254
>QTE Mintoraus and harpies plus pushing block into floor tile puzzles is good game design
d138de No.16034288
>>16034254
>>16034277
Seriously, next you'll tell me the Kraken was a good boss battle and that the shadow fight against the Spartan warrior was good gameplay design outside it's artistic merit.
85f472 No.16034296
>>16034183
Mike Kob, also known as the worlds greatest Godhand player, was duped into getting this piece of shit "becuse it's jsut like Godhand!"
Aside from him being incredibly disappointed with it ,he also broke the fucking game because it can't handle someone with actual gaming reflexes.
d138de No.16034307
God of War is literally in the same situation as Bioshock Infinite
Shit series cocksucked by retards becomes even more shit and cocksuckers fellate the old games even harder.
85f472 No.16034323
>>16034307
At least the original God of war was built with the idea of being a GAME first and foremost.
d138de No.16034328
>>16034323
That doesn't make the games before any less shit
Same with Oblivion/Skyrim, same with GTAIV, same with Bioshock 1/2.
85f472 No.16034360
>>16034328
It was a basic hack-n-slash with basic platforming and a basic story. Call it shit, but it was at least playable and a game, not an attempt to be some hollywood movie bullshit ticking off 'inclusiveness" boxes.
That said, what games are not shit to you?
937eb7 No.16034361
I enjoyed the game but it's still not a very character action oriented game like it should be. Feels like it spends too much time being cinematic to tell a pretty predictable story without putting enough effort into the game itself. Norse myth enthusiasts for sure won't like the game as it changes so much. Practically demonizing all the gods without them being redeemable except for Loki.
From my understanding, the past games at least made you realize that Kratos is the villain of this story. The Gods are morally questionable but they aren't wholly evil. Kratos on the other hand is by no means a hero of any sort. Even his curse is his own fault brought on by making a deal with Ares. If Kratos truly matured in this new game then shouldn't he realize that maybe it's his own fault everything that happened happened because of his own actions?
The biggest fault of the game is the fact it feels like half of a game. Most of the nine realms aren't available. The ones that are have no exploration depth like Midgard. Even Midgard just locks you into a small area. It's barely open world. With even less side quests. The only ones that stand out are the dragon quests. But they mean nothing. There's no conclusion to the elf conflicts. There's no real point to fighting all the Valkyries unless you want more armor. But it's all pointless by that point because you're already beyond end game and the Valkyrie Queen is the hardest boss you'll fight anyway. Baldur is a bitch compared to her.
One thing I did really like is the allusion to the other gods of war from different cultures around the world. Would've been nice if this game was actually a full experience so I could have hopes we'd explore those characters in depth in the following games.
5c357f No.16034371
>>16034277
>>16034288
God of War 1 is the only game in the series it truly great since the rest were just well done, but more of the same.
and you still haven't refuted any of my actual points you simply dismissed them.
I'm not saying God of War is some deep fucking philosophical journey, I'm and maybe i'm using the term Masterpiece too freely, but GoW 1 used the medium of Video games to it's advantage for telling it's story better on the first try better then like 90% of other games.
937eb7 No.16034379
>>16034296
That's not a one hit glitch. It's an execution glitch.
d138de No.16034391
>>16034360
>It was a basic hack-n-slash with basic platforming and a basic story. Call it shit, but it was at least playable and a game
I never said that wasn't the case, but pretending like the older games were any good because the new one is worse is just fucking nostalgifagging and disingenuous.
MGR is pretty good despite not being one of Platinums best.
>GoW 1 used the medium of Video games to it's advantage for telling it's story better on the first try better then like 90% of other games.
>2005
Kill yourself
d138de No.16034394
>>16034371
>GoW 1 used the medium of Video games to it's advantage for telling it's story better on the first try better then like 90% of other games.
>2005
>Kill yourself
85f472 No.16034404
>>16034361
As I said, it doesn't follow through with anything, it spends so much time trying to tick off hollywood level boxes that it never gets anything done. The camera is trash for being over the shoulder non stop when the isometric 3rd person camera from the original trilogy was perfectly fine, especially when it dialed back to show tiny little Kratos tearing a hole in some big bastard, showing groups of foes, and so on.
What they SHOULD have done is follow the theme of God of War 1, have you playing as some badass in another region with other gods, and as the game progresses, learn who you are and why you'e being the badass you are. Good? Evil? Assisting the gods? fighting them? enslaved to them?
For all the backpedaling and re-hashing of Kratos' past, we never got to play the sequence where he was the Fist of Aries. I want a game where you play as a character who is in a war, but your side is getting torn apart. You're in the battle and even if you fight good, just like the first Legacy of Kain, they just keep coming until you outright die, then as you die, you pray to your war god for help, and the war god helps you in exchange for your services thereafter.
Will the wargod abuse you? Will the wargod make you ruing the world? Will the wargod help you usher your people to an age of prosperity? You can do so many things.
Hell, even in norse, how about the story of Thor being cast out due to his arrogance, his quest to re-find Mjolnir, and learn the humbleness of mortal living and the fight of the common man? That alone would make for a perfectly simple excuse to have a powerful sonovabitch as the player character building up their strength and powers.
5c357f No.16034409
>>16034394
I'm not saying it's better then fucking MGS2 or DMC3, but so many games that are truly fantastic and masterful, had the benefit of creators with years of experience to learn and work out the kinks of the medium, everything God of War does right was on the first fucking attempt. And i think it deserves recognition for that.
d138de No.16034426
>>16034409
>everything God of War does right was on the first fucking attempt. And i think it deserves recognition for that.
Because no other game did it on it's first time before 2005 right?
GoW was nothing but Jaffe Gape sucking up to Sony which marketed the game to hell and back.
You talk out of rose tinted glasses and no standards.
092d64 No.16034427
>>16034307
I love that pic
>>16034328
while mgs4 was definitely one of the weakest of the series and it indeed had several flaws and few reedeming qualities, it doesn't deserve to be grouped together with that garbage
dce370 No.16034444
>>16034254
Nothing beats that moment where, after all the bullshit, all the traps, all the mobs of enemies, you finally find Pandora's Box and Athena congratulates you for it
d138de No.16034448
>>16034427
>Jewts favorite overrated game fellated by 4cuck /v/ doesn't deserve to be grouped up with that garbage
>No gameplay and all cutscenes leading up to a godawful end doesn't deserve to be grouped up with the rest of the garbage
Yes, yes it does
4aba75 No.16034459
>>16034406
>>16034296
I'm more surprised about the parries actually working than anything else. this game is so buggy.
b98aab No.16034489
>>16034448
At least it's a complete game, unlike MGSV.
d77669 No.16034561
>>16034448
MGS4 at least has the excuse that it had the ludicrous task of trying to explain every plot point in a decade-spanning series over the course of a single game, something that would turn out like the game did regardless of who did it. There is no excuse for why the other games in that picture are as shit as they are. Especially Infinite. And The Last of Us.
63387f No.16034562
>>16034296
>Mike Kob, also known as the worlds greatest Godhand player,
In what fucking universe?
40f248 No.16034612
>>16034190
<hurr durr it's a good game but not a good X game
>game is called "god of war"
>it's not a good god of war game
>however it's titled "god of war"
>it's still a good game
Okay, so call Sony and every retailer around the world and ask them to call back every unit and re-release it under a different name you fucking imbecile
>>>/reddit/
>>>/interracial/
>>>/cuckoldry/
>>>/gaschamber/
>>16034489
Survive is a complete game though. (^:
MGS:V:THE Phantom Stain is unfinished on purpose, mission 51 is a ruse for retards, becuase there's a dozen missions missing with no clues hinting at what they were supposed to be, half of the remaining missions are filler trash that would've been called a side mission in ground zeroes.
Peace Walker is the real MGS5 but Konami didn't want a numbered mainline game on a portable console.
7f42ae No.16034641
>>16034561
Except you should never explain everything, nor should you want to. A lot of stuff that it "explained" was worse than just leaving it open, as well.
5c357f No.16034669
>>16034426
>You talk out of rose tinted glasses and no standards
Except I didn't play God of War 1 in 2005 I played it years later after I already beat Every Devil May Cry game on Dante Must Die and Ninja Gaiden 2 on Master Ninja
Your the one talking out of shit tinted glasses with no appreciation for a developers passion and hard work.
You didn't like it much back then, which means you feelings from then must still be fact now.
722023 No.16034730
>>16034098
>They serve as stories of wisdom to show what such things would lead to and to teach you to avoid them.
Giving those flaws to your gods is definitely among the worst ideas, since you say you're meant to avoid them, as that implies it is a good thing to avoid your gods. That sounds like a very round-about way of turning a society into a worthless gaggle of fedoras.
5d0e20 No.16034734
>>16034427
Hey retard, I guarantee you that image was made unironically and posted on reddit. It's in there because reddit likes it too.
2d2672 No.16034745
>>16034730
Volcanoes erupt, plagues destroy cities, waves swallow ships, and bears maul innocent people. The Greeks did not live in a world of good gods, who control the volcanoes, plagues, waves, and bears.
d138de No.16034845
>>16034669
>You didn't like it much back then
I still don't
5c357f No.16034862
>>16034845
That's fine, I'm not asking you to change how you feel about the game, but you have just be very dismissive about all my points in favor of the game. with no real arguments to prove me wrong.
I'll accept that GoW 1 isn't flawless, but i don't think it's deserving of being dismissed when talking about great games. since the way I see it God of War 1 accomplished pretty much every goal the devs had for it.
11cdcf No.16034912
>>16034745
So what you're saying is that the gods, the highest of creation, the things which all of Greek civilization was created around, were equatable to disease, disaster and wild animals? All of human history would have been much better had Greek "culture" been trampled by the far superior Aryan culture.
38f138 No.16034922
>>16033695
>>Kratos kills his wife's son and cries
that would take some guts from the writers which they no longer have, but would also mean repeating "kratos kills his family and kills the gods in revenge" which they already did in the very first family
726a89 No.16034926
>>16034730
>>16034912
What does a god mean to you? You seem to have some weird expectation of them.
861a01 No.16034932
>>16034562
>In what fucking universe?
This one.
726a89 No.16034947
>>16034922
A lot of these new games by "woke" devs tend to do that sort of thing though. There is a reason they called this one god of war and not god war 4, notice the trend with similar titled games?
867954 No.16035013
>>16033262
i forgot where i saw it, but i remember someone complaining that in the game he was told to go somewhere earlier in the game. so he backtracked there, and nothing happened… confused, he returned to where he was and the game had some irrelevent dialogue, THEN he was allowed to return to where he was told to.
shit like that in games immediately makes me remove them from my backlog.
84c84b No.16035060
>>16034922
>>16034947
So it's like a subconscious desire of the writers to be un-cucked, or just their obnoxious way og thinking, ignoring the past and repeating the same mistakes?
2d2672 No.16035089
>>16034912
>So what you're saying is that the gods, the highest of creation, the things which all of Greek civilization was created around, were equatable to disease, disaster and wild animals?
Yes. The gods control, and can be seen as an interpretation of, the things mankind cannot control. Does that not make sense to you?
>All of human history would have been much better had Greek "culture" been trampled by the far superior Aryan culture.
Are you talking about Zoroastrianism?
0517dd No.16035092
>>16033262
In addition to what you've said I want to add a few gripes of my own.
>the Dark Souls 2-tier tracking on some enemies' attacks (first webm)
>certain enemies/bosses begin their attack wind-ups before loading screens end (second webm)
>the Muspelheim challenge rooms occasionally don't spawn enough enemies for you to kill, causing the player to miss out on the best loot through no fault of their own (third webm)
>Atreus' character arc begins and ends within the span of about 15 minutes
>the Modi & Magni boss fight is so much better than all the other bossfights it makes the rest feel even more like afterthoughts
>the fights with trolls & valkyries are way too samey given how numerous they are (although the valkyries are at least optional, in fairness)
>arguably doesn't even do as good a job at humanising Kratos as any of the first six games there's nothing in it anywhere near as impactful as having to defend his family from Kratos clones at the end of 1 or having to push away Calliope at the end of Chains of Olympus, to name two examples
>it's difficult to see this Kratos as the same character when his new VA sounds so different to TC Carson
>why the fuck does Kratos need to wear armour to fight stronger enemies when he killed the Greek pantheon borderline naked, does that mean level 8 zombies are stronger than Zeus?
Also, this isn't a flaw with the game and is just my personal preference, but I love Greek mythology and I find Norse mythology
PAINFULLY
uninteresting. I would have much, much preferred it if the devs went with the Egyptian setting they had originally planned.
>>16033329
>did they keep the hidden health/magic upgrades in the newest game?
Yeah.
>Or the relics you could pick up to get bonuses in new game+ like infinite magic/rage?
No.
>What about the mandatory sex minigame?
No.
>Does he even behead a single boss in that game?
This is another one of my biggest issues with the game, most of the violence is incredibly tame. The execution animation for the wulver is great, but the rest are really underwhelming.
In spite of all this I wouldn't necessarily call God of War PS4 an outright bad game, even if I do think it's the worst game in the series. I just don't get what kind of niche it's supposed to fulfill. The original games above all else did a good job of giving you a cathartic experience that makes you feel like a god of war, the PS4 one feels like it doesn't really know what kind of game it wants to be.
a09ac9 No.16035100
>>16035060
Much more simple. They want to rewrite history. Notice that people have to delineate between "Battlefront 2 (2005)" and BattlEAfront 2 when they search for something regarding the much better original? They want you to forget that something better was made far before them so they attempt to wash it out with shitty "reboots" that have the same name.
0517dd No.16035163
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16035092
Also, forgot to mention that the input window for the shield bash is far too large and the soundtrack is really forgettable. I was particularly disappointed that there wasn't a remix of embed related like there was in 2 and 3.
5c357f No.16035237
>>16035013
Yeah basically the boy starts getting a returning sickness, due to him not knowing he's a god and his mind and body regretting each other, but he says "I'm Fine" and you know a bitch who can about the sickness, but if you chose to go to the bitch before the game makes the boy more ill, then nothing happens, since they boy getting sick is the most important part of the story and it's what makes Kratos go and get the Blades of Chaos back, since he need them to fight his way though Ice hell, so he can get a cure for the boy.
Also
The best part of the entire game for me was that I only had one question going into the game, and that was how the fuck did Kratos still have the Blades of Chaos. when he lost them after the first game. realistically he would still have the Blades of Exile from God of War 3
The reason for Kratos having the Blades of Chaos is that the writers are fucking hacks, pic related
He has them only because they wanted him to have the most Iconic version of the chains.
7f86dd No.16035782
>>16034612
>can't into rebranding
Corporations, like ruler tyrants of old, will burn books just the same, to keep their consumers dumb and easily controlled. In this case it's called, Cultural Revisionism. The rewriting of our entertainment, arts and history should not only be criticized but challenged at every turn. We are currently in a state of time in our hobbies where (((scumbag publisher's))) interests and a small group of degenerate developer's views align. A convergence with disastrous consequences, as we are constant witness to. Try looking up Doom, God of War, Star Wars: Battlefield or any of the other modernized titles and most times you will be taken to the newer products. A marketing sleight of hand.
there is power in a name
5c357f No.16035917
>>16035782
At the very least reboots like these can sometimes encourage a few people to play the originals and discover what makes them classics for themselves.
2a0aca No.16036036
>>16035782
>implying there's anything wrong with burning books
Even hitler had a transgender institute and its books burned, sometimes things need to be destroyed.
913dba No.16036064
>>16034444
These ain't gonna be left unchecked.
026e60 No.16036067
>>16035782
This is likely the most accurate interpretation of our current reality.
002f87 No.16036084
>>16033262
My problem with God Of War 2018 is its not fucking Kratos. Its some fucking mountain man. If this was game about some grumpy Viking demi god and his son then it would have been fine. Its not "God of Soy" like some people say its just the devs began work on an unrelated Norse Gods game and Sony went you know what make that a God of War game and the devs had to toe the line and spout corporate bullshit.
Calling it now this was not meant to be a God of War game and that is actually worse as it means the devs themselves are the fucking soyboys. Spineless fucking soyboys that let suits run rampant and should be banned from making games for being a bunch of faggots.
5c357f No.16036101
>>16036084
Na the Director of this new one is actually the Director of God of War 2, and judging by that game while it was a fun game. he clearly never understood Kratos as a character, and only gave the people what the wanted, taking away his god status so he could go back to "Angry God killing man" instead of going some where appropriate with his character after how the first game ended.
This new game is exactly the same thing only it's taking Kratos again and changing him into they think people currently want, with current day trends.
913dba No.16036115
>>16035237
Another thing is that even if he wanted he can't physically remove the blades from his body, they are more or less part of his arms.
a2cfea No.16036119
>>16034323
It was more meant to bring a "cinematic experience" to the forefront, just like nu-GOW.
5c357f No.16036200
>>16036128
>>16034215
>>16034049
This video got posted 3 times
and i'm fine with that Matthewmatosis beat DMC1 S ranking DMD with no damage. He can do whatever the fuck he wants.
ab7036 No.16036220
>>16034730
I didn't know Plato browsed /v/
42b2aa No.16036276
What’s a good game. I think I don’t like games anymore then I realize it’s the games not me. RDR2 and GTA5 are insufferable yet they were my fav games previously.
5c357f No.16036292
>>16036276
Yakuza is great
Kiwami is coming to Steam soon, and it looks to have no denuvo, or you could just pirate Yakuza 0
42b2aa No.16036316
>>16036292
I’m going to play Yakuza.
cd2fbe No.16036325
>>16036292
Kiwami is shit but we'll have an entire generation of retards praising it and insisting starting with zero is acceptable.
972140 No.16036329
God of war was always shit
4aba75 No.16036368
>>16036325
Kiwami is one of the few remakes that actually improves on the source material.
cd2fbe No.16036407
>>16036368
What a bad post
5c357f No.16036439
>>16036325
>>16036368
Kiwami makes improvement in some areas, but isn't an improvement in others. it's as simple as that.
Emulating the original 1 and 2 is recommended, but it's also isn't the most reasonable way to go about things for someone who just wants to play a newer game that's good.
>>16036329
You say that while posting a DMC image, when DMC is one of the most uneven series in terms of consistent quality ever.
this is coming from someone who actually enjoys DMC2 dispite it's flaws.
4aba75 No.16036472
>>16036439
Kiwami is by no means a perfect game but it improves on the OG release on several fronts. and everything that wasn't improved was kept mostly the same. the only valid complaint I saw was that some side stories were removed and replaced with different ones.
b8a8b5 No.16036474
>>16036439
>Kiwami makes improvement in some areas, but isn't an improvement in others. it's as simple as that.
That statement implies that there is additional unstated information. It literally cannot be as simple as that.
5c357f No.16036528
>>16036474
kek your right,
okay, the game play is an improvement after years of Yakuza games clearly.
but things like the tone were messed with, since Majima is very inconstant in story cutscenes when compared to how he is during Majima anywere fights. story Majima is serious and threatening, where Majima anywhere is the wacky fanservice Majima
It's just a different game and not a replacement for the original