e6b352 No.16029159
Its a good start Sega. Now offer other options for release besides Steam please, preferably with physical options too
http://archive.is/9pmiB
Seems this is a good sign though, suggesting there's a chance they might be coaxed out of it.
Let's look at the games Sega released recently that either didn't have Denuvo at all, or had it removed before or after release or cracking
>Shenmue 1+2
>Catherine Classic
>Two-Point Hospital
And now Yakuza Kiwami, which is a big game for them.
I don't like Steam at all (in fact I fucking despise it), but I encourage any of you faggots who still use it at all and like Yakuza games and no Denuvo to buy it.
1c057b No.16029166
Maybe they finally realized how fucking useless it is.
c8968a No.16029167
>>16029159
Who cares about that shit game
f1d6a4 No.16029168
4988dd No.16029171
>>16029167
I care more about it than your mother cares about you. Which, unfortunately, isn't very much.
ac6996 No.16029190
But why remove Denuvo on Kiwami 1, but not on Yakuza 0? Damn man.
5b1fbb No.16029196
>>16029167
It’s not as good as zero but it’s an ok game.
e6b352 No.16029204
>>16029190
They might remove it if people encourage them to enough and communicate with them
Pulling Sega out of the denuvo muck is going to be a fucking pain though
ac6996 No.16029210
>>16029204
>>16029196
>>16029167
It also explains the delay for the release of Kiwami 1 though
41d841 No.16029216
1c057b No.16029219
>>16029216
Sorry, but the role of faggot has already been taken, see >>16029159
0094a3 No.16029225
Sega had a survey about Yakuza a while back and we spammed it with demands to remove Denuvo. Wonder if that had any effect.
Namco Bandai is doing one of those right now. We should do the same
>>16011347
378bb2 No.16029689
>>16029159
Kiwami is a remake of the first one right? guess this is where my DMCV money may go instead.
4e85a1 No.16029693
>>16029159
>PC
>physical options
4e85a1 No.16029695
>>16029693
I didn't even had this flag last time I posted.
03434a No.16029702
>>16029159
I'm gonna wait until the game is out because I don't trust this crap.
2453a5 No.16029717
If it does release without denubu, I will consider buying. I asked them very kindly in that essay section of the questionnare to consider removong denuvo with subsequent releases.
c5cd3a No.16029827
SEGA is the greatest video game company to ever exist and you should be on your knees thanking them never forget that
4bbcb3 No.16029846
>>16029827
Still waiting for my physical NTSC copy of Yakuza 5 here, friendo
589f7f No.16029849
>>16029833
Take a deep breath and go back to whatever forum you came from.
c5cd3a No.16029850
>>16029846
Sorry I can't hear you over this Super Locomotive cabinet
482a2b No.16029859
>Denuvo
Did Denuvo ever stop any fucking game from getting pirated or are they installing it as a meme?
Seriously, did they not get the fucking hot protip that this shit doesn't work?
4bbcb3 No.16029868
>>16029859
It took year and a half for some hackers to crack FIFA 16
Yeah i know i know, sportball, but that series usually is the most pirated game of the year in a good chunk of the world.
ff9b89 No.16029873
>>16029859
Pretty sure Denuvo keeps being put into games because there are companies that have a corporate investment in it, and thus want to use it as much as possible to see some monetary gain out of it. There's also been speculation (if it wasn't confirmed) that Sony is largely behind Denuvo's existence.
2825fe No.16029877
>>16029859
It's always a huge fucking mystery when indie devs put it on their game. Considering the fuck ton of money it costs in the first place most of the idiots that put on their game end up losing money.
984cd8 No.16029889
>>16029873
What was the name of this doujin? I don't care about the name if anyone can remind me what the genre of kidnapped lolis is called also the ending, LMAO
378bb2 No.16029895
>>16029859
Furthermore, performance issues or not, using that kind of DRM only gives the user the message that "we have our eye on you, DON'T YOU DARE pirating the game, seriously, don't try it you filthy bastard, we know you are thinking about it."
3c6320 No.16029972
>>16029833
this you, little buddy?
944c7c No.16029976
>>16029166
>useless
>when it's goal is to give new games time to get the most revenue from initial sales due to no piracy being possible
It's very convenient that most of the new games are cracked by "scene groups" after this period, and any hacker who tried to break this rule gets arrested.
e3c324 No.16030013
>>16029889
>>16029873
>make that reaction pic for my private server as a joke
>in less than a year its almost everywhere online even normalfag posts
took me a while to find in favourites
https://exhentai.org/g/481615/2271624455/
929afb No.16030030
>>16030013
You do know crops of that page have been in circulation and used since that hentai released right?
You going into paint and using the select tool isn't a special thing.
d2f853 No.16030050
>>16029159
By 10 copies a piece to show Sega not using Denuvo is the right choice.
who are we kidding we're all gonna pirate
619305 No.16030060
Good news. I wonder if Bethesda getting rid of DOOM's Denuvo is a sign that some companies are not going to bother. Some games probably do benefit from having Denuvo, mainly online focused games but the damage it does to your brand, performance issues and more make it not worth using. Would be nice if Capcom decided to get rid of Denuvo for DMCV.
926478 No.16030061
>>16029877
It isn't a mystery why they do it.Think of a child that clutches a safety blanket for comfort against something that scares them, deep down they know it won't protect them, but they clutch it tighter and tighter for reassurance. It's the same deal with publishers who use Denuvo, you could take any company, sit them down with a cracker and have them watch it being cracked right in front of their own eyes and they would still use it because Denuvo is their safety blanket.
fba17f No.16030084
So is it good or should I play the original instead?
619305 No.16030086
>>16030061
Its more about protecting the game for a week or two. Most sales happen in that time so they think DRM that protects those precious days is worth it.
49d7e4 No.16030322
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16030086
Japan usually doesn't port games to PC on day one. That is their way to deal with piracy. Steam is a secondary market for most titles.
Personally I think companies shouldn't bother with DRM. People who pirate were never going to pay anyway.
OT: Kiwami is better than 0 or Kiwami 2 because it has more Haruka chan! OTOMETAL
926478 No.16030331
>>16030086
True, but the big releases with Denuvo seem to be getting cracked within the hour or within one or two days lately, so it isn't really protecting shit now.
0444e0 No.16030355
>>16029159
They'll add it back later, the same thing happened with AC Odyssey, they removed the debongo tag to lure preorder cucks and then they added it back after release.
7188f0 No.16030361
>>16029159
Calling it now, this game will have less than half the sales of 0. You faggots you that constantly virtue signal against Denuvo have no money to spend.
Screencap this fucking post because I want you poor larping niggers to get the shame you deserve.
6f0df8 No.16030388
>>16030361
>Screencap this fucking post
Do it yourself, faggot shill.
e3c324 No.16030392
>>16030030
I made the crop the moment it was translated and its the same dimensions and size as the one I made originally nigger
4d776a No.16030396
>>16029859
> that this shit doesn't work?
First day here? Yakuza 0 having it caused 6 months of asshurt after launch. It stops piracy.
0444e0 No.16030413
>>16030361
It will, but because it's an older game and doesn't have the hype of the Yakuza series arriving on PC for the first time.
5301da No.16030426
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>>16030392
>Ackshually, I am the auteur of this ebin meeem™
Here, take all the (You)s you want, nigger. Now fuck off back to leddit and ask for pats on the back there.
4890fa No.16030454
>>16030392
Wrong, cause I actually translated it and made the crop myself.
45e4f7 No.16030462
>>16029976
I'm sure the elusive -4 days, -2 hours, 0 days, 1 day sales are huge and worth the 300 thousand dollars license cost and bad pr when even the amorphous blob j*m *st*rling shits on you for implementing denuvo.
318cb1 No.16030501
>>16030454
Wrong, I am the author of the original manga and I translated it to English to then crop that panel for use on a Mongolian horse-breeding forum.
You're welcome.
d1458d No.16030508
Glad it's not gonna be 60 dollars at least
f16d9b No.16030514
>>16030501
Don't believe this anon, he's actually the pedo whose photos were rotoscoped for the manga.
7188f0 No.16030535
>>16030388
>faggot shill
How can I be shilling for a game I have no financial stake in whatsoever? Is this our "incel" now?
>>16030413
Wrong. It is because the poorfags will pirate the fuck out of it from whatever 3rd world download rehosting site puts it up first.
d1458d No.16030538
>>16030361
Jokes on you I have a job I hate it
d6c698 No.16030543
>>16030013
theres just a panda wtf
aa27da No.16030547
>>16030535
>Piracy is lost sales
How about some proofs?
3a1577 No.16030566
Kiwami was an inferior version compared to the original (or should I say, the HD release on PS3 which fixed the movement controls). The Majima Everywhere stuff was rather obnoxious since Kiryu couldnt learn new fighting skills without it, alongside of undermining Majima's character to "lmao so random xD". All the mid-bosses and boss characters using their auto-healing abilities during the fights was also the most retarded shit ever.
Just skip that one basically
212eab No.16030586
>>16030547
>How about some proofs?
04e77a No.16030593
>>16030566
nah, OG Yakuza is very underwhelming. the combat just wasn't all that good.
9dca69 No.16030595
>>16030361
I mean I already bought it yesterday, but I don't think your wrong when it comes to /v/
Now all you faggots have no excuse for not supporting Yakuza
d1458d No.16030620
>>16030593
So should I play this before zero? Or can I play zero now?
d93d17 No.16030623
>>16030566
>inferior compared to original
What the fuck am I reading. Sure, okay, the original RGG is vastly superior to shenmue 1/2 that it was essentially built upon in many regards, but it's still a janky mess with absolutely fuckall polish.
Kiwami is the same but in an actually polished engine this time.
And complaining about "making majima lmao random" is really fucking stupid considering that's just how he was aaaaaaaall the way until RGG4
9dca69 No.16030628
>>16030620
I would recommend emulating the orginal PS2 Versions of Yakuza 1 and 2 before playing 0 and kiwami. since I know for sure that improved my experience.
but if your not going to go though the effort of playing the PS2 versions, then starting with 0 is fine, Kiwami expects you to have done so.
1fc831 No.16030629
>>16030060
I bought Doom after it dropped Denuvo and I bought Catherine on day one and you had better believe I shitposted about the reason I bought it. My extremely reasonable complaints will be heard, goshdarn it!
46a010 No.16030638
>>16029873
i thought it was squeenix that had a sizable investment in denuvo.
it wouldn't surprise me if sony was behind it with all the shit they've pulled lately i just haven't heard that one before.
d1458d No.16030645
>>16030628
Pretty sure my PC is strong enough to emulate ps2 games.
What emulator do you suggest?
9dca69 No.16030656
>>16030645
I'll I know is that this version of PCSX2 worked for me, but you may have to play in software mode for things like the lights in game to not ghost around, and look right.
I'm unaware if newer versions fixed this issue or if it's easy to fix and i'm just a dumb ass.
e3c324 No.16030665
>>16030426
I didnt even aks for recognition, read nigger, just correcting this faggot
c0045b No.16030736
>>16030638
This is a nice picture but her tits look like they are two different sizes and it is quite distracting.
015dc3 No.16030765
You mean I can finally have hope for a Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown PC port that doesn't have denuvo?
9dca69 No.16030864
>>16030831
Do you want great video games at a reasonable price, or not.
Simply because the way I see it, that's exactly what Yakuza Kiwami is, if you'd rather things just not get better then by all means continue to be nothing in the eyes of the publishers.
2ba20d No.16031582
>>16030361
I have a seedbox, inbefore shill, but I do find it amusing pirates think their voice matters. Put up or shut up.
2ba20d No.16031593
>>16030462
It does anon. Many gamers are normalfags who want to socialize by sharing a common interest. That means playing what everyone else is playing.
dd559a No.16031641
>>16031582
>you have to buy something to criticize it
No, retard.
656c93 No.16031690
>>16030535
>How can I be shilling for a game I have no financial stake in whatsoever? Is this our "incel" now?
How can mods take their jobs seriously if they don't get paid?
cb11a4 No.16031709
Now I just have to hope
Samba de Amigo VR doesn't have it, and maybe they take it out of buyo buyo betris
e6b352 No.16031719
>>16029859
It stopped Nier Automata for a while, and is currently stopping Valkyria Chronicles 4
014828 No.16031769
>>16029159
>No Denuvo
Well at least someone at Sega knows no one likes it.
288a63 No.16031781
>>16031727
Please, please, PLEASE get a thesaurus.
9fe79a No.16031812
Fantastic I hope it sells way more than 0 and convinces Sega to keep doing it. Also hope it spreads to other developers/publishers. Now why in the fuck are the slavs putting it into Metro?
9dca69 No.16032058
>>16031727
No one is afraid or dislikes piracy, but the fact of the matter is that money is the loudest form of communication in any industry.
If people who genuinely enjoy a video game, don't send money toward the ones responsible for it, then how are they ever meant to continue to get video games of the same or even better quality.
If someone never pays for anything that deserves it, then they will never have any contribution on things getting better, and instead will only be allowing the things that have caused so much damage in the industry to continue to consume anything that has love and care put into it.
3a1577 No.16032118
>>16031727
>its that retarded "pc mustard race - muh piracy - hello fellow gaymers" torfag again
230087 No.16032319
>>16029859
Publisher don't care if it gets pirated, what they care is that it's not Pirated in the first 2 weeks because that's when normalfags binge themselves on $60 games that will be half-priced in 3 months.
Denovo or the Uplay thing are so bloated and complicated that they succeeds at that, not because it's really hard to crack but it's time consuming to do so.
Of course since normalfags are retards they don't care that their perfs are shit because of it (and often latter patches that fixes thing is related to a lighter or more optimized implementation of the anti-piracy measure).
cbe0b5 No.16032648
>Check store page for it
>No sign of denuvo
>The no Denuvo curator says it has denuvo and the proof is on the store page
015dc3 No.16032669
>>16032648
When it went live it listed Denuvo, then 2 hours after they went on the steamdb and did a update to remove it. Plus it's not listed in the EULA
984cd8 No.16032695
>>16032118
But the tornigger is right, unless it doesn't have denuvo it is always best to wait and pirate if it does.
984cd8 No.16032699
>>16030586
>>16030547
>>16030535
How can you lose a sale if I never had the intention of paying you to begin with? Are you ENTITLED to MY MONEY somehow?
685b00 No.16032758
>"they removed Denuvo but I'm still not buying it "
4d776a No.16032772
>>16032758
Surprising no one.
becf26 No.16032788
>>16032758
>giving (((steam))) money
Where do you fucking jokers come from?
e5d55f No.16033027
>>16030656
>>16030628
I was asking myself kind of the same thing so I'm probably gonna play the original first.
But then what is the best way to play 1 and 2 if I can't speak japanese but still would prefer subtitled original voices over dubbed if possible?
53d6b6 No.16033035
>>16032758
Hey I recognize that pic.
>>16032788
It is incredible the lengths people go here to not play/ not pay for things.
>it has DRM
>it's on a platform I don't like
>the filesize is too big
>it's multiplayer
>it's not from japan
>it's indie
>it isn't 100% bug free
>one of the devs doesn't agree with me 100% on something
>other people I don't like play it
>people I do like don't play it
and so on and so forth.
9dca69 No.16033038
>>16033027
Yakuza 1 on PS2 is the only game in the series to have an English dub, (at least until Judment comes out, that will have a dub apparently) and honestly I think it's worth experiencing it just for the novelty of how dated and of it's era it is.
aside from the PS2 version, there was an HD pack of Yakuza 1&2 on Wii U and PS3, but it was never translated, but there are guides and such for playing non Translated games in the series.
e5d55f No.16033082
>>16033038
>but there are guides and such for playing non Translated games in the series.
Meh, I remember how shitty it was to play AC3 JP and Warship Gunner portable(bonus point for that one having hard to distinguish text all over the R&D and ship building screens) with the spreadsheet on a secondary screen so I think I'll pass on that and just play dubbed.
1cd4eb No.16033107
>>16033035
God forbid a self-respecting person has preferences huh?
3358ed No.16033120
>>16033035
>the filesize is too big
>it's multiplayer
>it's not from japan
>it's indie
>it isn't 100% bug free
>one of the devs doesn't agree with me 100% on something
These aren't really justifications for piracy so much as bad signs about the game. When people complain about them, it's not necessarily a condemnation of the game so much as they are warning that it might be shit.
The rest are legitimate gripes.
>it has DRM
At best DRM is unnecessary; at worst, it hurts the consumer.
>it's on a platform I don't like
Why would we buy a game for a console if we don't own that console?
>other people I don't like play it
>people I do like don't play it
If it's multiplayer, why would I play it with people I don't like? Vice versa also applies.
53d6b6 No.16033161
>>16033120
>When people complain about them, it's not necessarily a condemnation of the game
It 100% is. Any game that doesn't already have majority approval here will be shot in the foot by one niggle and left to bleed out. Which is also surprising why it's happening ITT, as yakuza is a long loved franchise here.
2b87bb No.16033449
>>16033035
Having standards as a consumer is somehow "great lengths"?
>it has DRM
That's a principle worth fighting for.
>its on a platform I don't like
Why would you buy something for a platform you don't like? This also neglects legitimate reasons for disliking a platform, such as DRM, censorship, bad practices, poor services, etc.
>Its filesize is too big
That's basically done as DRM, which again is something worth fighting for. Optimization should not be a fucking lost art, and I shouldn't have to fucking wait hours upon hours, or quite literally days in some cases, to play a fucking game.
>its multiplayer
That has to do with buyer preference.
>its not from Japan
Only autistic retard weebs have that kind of logic, and at the end of the day that's preference as they weren't going to buy it anyways. They are irrelevant to that market demographic entirely.
>its indie
See above but remove "weeb"
>it isn't 100% bug free
Faggot there were plenty of people on here who bought KCD for example, among other shit that's known for some bugs
Nobody's that stringent
>one of the devs did something that I don't agree with
Well that depends, but if you want to support SJW cancer that ruins vidya then you can be that retard. However, for example the Falcom threads supported XSEED for a while despite them having leftists because they never let it interfere with their work and put out quality localizations, ports and customer service consistently.
>people I dont like play it
Well, if the audience is a deterrent that person likely wasn't in the target market or even close to it to begin with
>people I do like don't play it
What's wrong with wanting to play games with your friends?
Overall this is some weak shit.
>>16033161
I think you greatly overestimate the power of shitposting. A few dedicated autists who hate certain games rarely can change opinions that significantly, especially when there is someone to challenge them. For example, ever since about 6-8 months after Nier Automata there have been a few people consistently shitting on or shitposting on the game with shitty memes and posts like the game being nothing more or nothing special other than 2B's ass, but that hasn't changed opinions that its still a well-loved, good if not great game
4be69a No.16033456
>>16033035
There is only one reason anyone needs to pirate.
>because they can
I hope everybody pirates this game and shows these gaming companies that the gaming community are not a bunch of cuckolds and are ready to see gaming die like it should have in 2007.
5cf1ee No.16033466
>>16031641
True but nobody is going to listen to someone who only shit posts on 8chan.
Money is how the community steers work.
5cf1ee No.16033473
>>16033456
I really hope people develop their own tastes and don't let other gamers influence them.
Ha who am I kidding.
b205d0 No.16033476
>>16029196
>It’s not as good as zero but it’s an ok game.
Zero was an okay game.
>it’s not as good as zero
So it's a shit game?
3a1577 No.16033568
>>16032695
>But the tornigger is right, unless it doesn't have denuvo it is always best to wait and pirate if it does.
The torfag is still a massive retard trying to have some kind of higher morale ground. Piracy doesnt irk me in contrary, I believe I've pirated far more shit than I've bought. I just dont like piratefags that thinks they're doing out of duty in the same vein of buyfags.
Sure, I have a big preference for physical media than digital, but I'm also a cheap bastard that rarely buy full-price.
d2f853 No.16033684
>>16033508
>gta
Confirmed for never having played it.
2745ef No.16033715
>>16033684
>falling for tornigger baiting
>making me reply
5cf1ee No.16033716
>>16033684
When Yakuza first came out it was handled terribly by Sega.They marketed it as Japanese GTA to get the normalfaggies to buy it.
They also put in a English dub with expensive VAs and censored/removed all the Japanese culture.
It was… ill advised.
a566e1 No.16033751
>>16033449
Don't forget that FNV is definitely not a bug free game yet is really beloved by the majority of anons here.
72980b No.16033839
I wonder if it has something to do with the high density of major japanese releases on PC in february. I know if I were interested in two games coming out around the same time, I'd buy the one without DRM first and wait for the other to be cracked.
b8a730 No.16034739
>>16033751
That's because New Vegas did what it did better than Fallout 1, 2, and 3, and it's probably the best WRPG ever made.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. is an even more unstable game that's long loved on /v/, but last I checked /v/ hates that game now for some reason.
5b1fbb No.16035180
>>16033476
It’s not necessarily shit. If you play it right after completing zero, you will compare the two and it won’t be as enjoyable because it’s weaker than the former. The soundtrack isn’t as memorable, the person you protect aka haruka is an annoying cunt she runs away and gets chinked in yak 6. Nishiki goes from being a bro to a backstabbing edgy faggot, the boss fights aren’t as good, and finally the side games aren’t as fun like they were in zero. I would only recommend it after a period of time after playing zero, otherwise you will compare them to each other and conclude that kiwakami is inferior.
9a9eeb No.16035259
>>16034739
>New Vegas
>it's probably the best WRPG ever made
The worst part is that there are faggots that unironically feel this way. I don't even think codexniggers suck off NV as much as /v/ does.
69f8fd No.16035648
>>16035259
It started ironically, then the kids actually bought into that shit. I'm old enough to remember people ignoring NV for being a cheap clone.
It's the same process that has Bioshock 2 and the Star Wars Prequels getting fans years after they were shunned. The mongrelization of America.
0f6634 No.16036117
>>16033716
This is what happens when Sega hires former EA faggots to run Sega of America.
685b00 No.16036591
>>16033035
fucking this. i wish people just told the truth and stop making shit up.
>I'm going to download this game illegal because I can't afford it.
i don't understand why you would spend the time downlanding the game if you hate the dev so much.
i don't buy EA games because fuck EA you know what else I do? i don't download their games either because fuck EA
c40768 No.16044985
>>16033473
>don't let other gamers influence them
What's wrong with this faggot?
You should be able to change someone's mind with sound logic, reasoning and evidence or at least grant them a different perspective.
Developing one's taste doesn't preclude the opinion of others, that just makes it as if your own opinion was the only one that matters, or that yours is the only one that's "right".
The real problems arise when people use the opinions as others as replacements for their own, rather than as something additional to consider or add to their knowledge and perspective. Especially for games they haven't played or fully finished.
232eb0 No.16044993
Nice
BTW has zero releases and has it been cracked
232eb0 No.16044998
>>16033035
Maybe its because most of us are poor
c40768 No.16045003
>>16044998
>most of us are poor
Speak for yourself huenigger, there's plenty of buyfags here, and also plenty of steamdrones who blow their money like retards
232eb0 No.16045009
>>16045003
Australian actually
And look its just what I see that most people here are either NEETs, in Uni or in low paying jobs
c40768 No.16045025
>>16045009
That doesn't mean they don't spend money like retards. All of those people are known to buy plenty of games if they want to