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>>16020138

With one of the later patches, you can build rooms in a certain fashion to attract certain hero units (once per map). The heroes are basically just monsters with super good stats, but nothing gamebreaking

Deeper Dungeons has a ton of extra levels/campaigns if you want more after you're done with the main one.

Anyone else think DK1 has aged perfectly? The graphical style of prerendered sprites in rough DOS 3D looks gorgeous. Wish there were mods that added more units and shit. Dungeon Keeper FX is great though.

Great for playing while listening to Dungeon Synth to.

>>16020595

>wew

No anon I meant I quit because the DK2 was so shit I didn't want to finish.

>>16020138

Put enough units with wind / word of power together and you can fend off the Avatar long enough to capture and turn him. It's one of the most fun things to do in DK1 since the game will treat him as dead and respawn him.

>>16020629

You're not seriously going to defend that shit game are you?

Friendly reminder to buy War for the Overworld.

>>16020644

To my last, gasping, dying breath. See, I'm capable of appreciating both 1, 2 and War for the Overworld without shitting on either. Fuck Dungeons, though. I was promised deep dark fantasies and got some neutered theme park game instead.

>>16020661

Anon it's okay if you like a game, but you shouldn't defend something so incredibly inferior to the game that came before it.

>>16020664

Come on anon, DK2 was disappointing but it's hardly shit.

>>16020675

It had some good ideas like having units trying to get through small passageways bump into each other. This would prevent somebody from steamrolling another keeper, but it's fucked because they behave like bumper cars instead of people trying to get through a passageway. God help you if units are trying to go one way, and some units another. The biggest issue DK2 had was from a positively shitty campaign, small maps, and loads of bugs with today's hardware. Thank goodness I was able to find fixes for them, or I wouldn't be able to play the game at all.

>>16020664

Whatever floats your boat man. As far as I'm concerned I don't ask for tips when I breeze thru a game seems rather redundant, doesn't it? nor do I make whine threads when it kicks my ass.

Have you tried Startopia or Space Colony by any chance? They're probably more up to your basebuilding in peace ways. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you.

>>16020722

>They're probably more up to your basebuilding in peace ways.

This is how I know you're just shitposting. In DK2 keepers will do nothing while you build your base, and eventually attack them.

>>16020629

Ilithids don't have genitalia.

>>16020719

Yeah I know what you're saying, but you haven't seen DK1 at its worst yet. You can break that game in ways that are so simple that they never should have passed the beta. DK2 tried to fix some of that, but it went through too few iterations as opposed to DK1 where the designers had no idea how to balance it after changing the core mechanics halfway through producton.

>>16020776

>break the game

You mean how like you can get a level 6+ horny by dungeon six, and steamroll everything?

>>16020739

Is your next line: you mad? I've been nothing but helpful, if admittedly amused by your hypocrite faggotry. And have accordingly both tried to help you get better, suggested pet dungeon and several fairly good games. I'm not sure what you're fishing for but I'm neither your mother to coddle you, your psychiatrist to stroke your ego while you vent nor a sex worker to fellate you.

Hell, if someone has a somewhat reliable way to hook up some multiplayer I wouldn't half mind joining in.

>>16020770

That's a surprise to me considering how hard they plowed my party first time I raided their lair in BG2. Admittedly I knew I was looking for trouble with INT being my dump stat but who in their right mind would pump that for a zerker?

>>16020784

> I've been nothing but helpful

>No i meant to laugh at you

If this is how you react when people criticize your favorite game then I think I've found out why we never have dungeon keeper threads here.

>>16020782

Horny isn't that good in DK1 and he needs his own mini dungeon if you don't want him to flip out and kill half of your guys.

>>16020891

One thing I hated in HoMM3 was the linear progression of units. Like everything had the same 7 tiers. It's sort of like that in DK, but it'd be nice if it was very asymmetrical

>>16020614

DK2 wasn't released by the original team. Bullfrog fell apart after the release of DK1 and EA patched the team with poo-in-loos, it has little to nothing in common with the original Dungeon Keeper, except the basic concept. It's utter garbage.

>>16020155

I loved Deeper Dungeons for about the first few levels in but it eventually became tedious and annoying even for someone who has loved DK since I was a kid and breezed through the base game. When the enemy sets traps illegally underwater for the 10th time in a row it really start to piss you off.

I completely agree with you OP I could never get into DK2. The detailed pixel art, dark atmosphere, amazing sound design and the dark almost like industrial metal soundtrack just really comes together to make a great experience. Meanwhile DK2 lightened everything up, had a forgetful soundtrack and made every character look like a goofy cartoony WOW clone. Looking past all that DK2 is still decent cause it added a few mechanics that worked well, like how the possession spell is no longer just a cool gimmick. I also really enjoyed War for the Overworld and even Dungeons 2 to some extent even though it was just a consolized fisher price version of DK.

>>16020895

I defiantly can get behind that. Side grades over upgrades was always something I personally enjoyed and there's really no reason what so ever to have trolls when bile demons outclass them in every way or warlocks if you can get your hands on some vampires. Even worse some creatures are essentially a meme. Why would you even raise skeletons, given a choice obviously, when you can breed vampires or convert?

>>16020925

I wouldn't hold my breath. There was a talk about it and you can go dig it out over at the evil planet site but ultimately nothing came out of it and elixir went under. Crying shame, though.

>>16020908

Bullfrog had to change and cut out so much stuff from DK that was originally designed for the heroes that they didn't manage to change everything in time for the release date. What you see in Deeper Dungeons are a lot of the maps that would've been hero maps. Deeper Dungeons was just a quick cash grab, a skeleton crew went through all the shit that had been left on the 'cutting room floor' and glued it together.

>>16020942

Didn't Molyneux and most of the devs already leave Bullfrog by that point?

>>16020936

Don't even say that DK2 is decent. DK2 is not even a sequel to DK. EA owns the IP and because DK1 was so successful they had to create a sequel, but it wasn't created by the original team, so there's no heritage, DK2 is not a true successor.

>>16020950

Yes. Molyneux had already left and was basically considering suing EA, but eventually decided against. They used sharktank tactics to keep him quiet. I wouldn't say that most developers had left by that point, but most of the important ones. Bullfrog did have a lot of poo-in-loos, but the core team that was doing all the heavy lifting was very small. When Bullfrog was shut down in 2001 they had all left. There was just nobody of the original team.

>>16020177

>>16020925

>>16020941

Mein niggers, always like to see people who also appreciate this game. Definitely had its drawbacks, shit was prone to being sort of a mess at times but it was also host to some absolutely amazing shit, like the first time you realize Red Ivan uses a bazooka, and set him on an infiltrator in your Control Room and very quickly learn why you lock him outside in a shack with a 4 security clearance door.

Anyways, sequel is still happening apparently. The newest information I can find is from June 2017 but apparently the wheels are turning on a legitimate sequel and not some Zynga style phone shit. Read here for what little bits of information we can get and feel free to dream of what sort of things you feel they can deliver to improve on this situation:

https://archive.fo/kfhNi

>>16021022

>For what it's worth I think that Molyneux was not one of the people doing all the heavy lifting and more of a mascot in the vein of Sid Meier.

Molyneux was an ideas man who knew how to manage tech people until the threshold moved up around the mid nineties. People he relied on started putting out work that went over his head. I mean Hassabis pretty much carried Black & White to a playable state.

Hey anons I downloaded war of the overworld to see if it would run on my computer. Right now I am going to be pretty busy so I wont have a lot of time to play games, but I wanted to test it all the same. Except I am getting an issue where I get a black screen with a cursor after the splash logo. I am looking for issues now, but so far nothing is working.

>>16025430

They link to a solution to that on their support page. I played the game on Linux so I just needed to update some packages.

>>16025479

That might be the reason. I never update my stuff because I am running windows 7. I can always try putting up linux on another partition if that will get the game running, but I don't have time for that right now. Have to go to bed.

>>16025479

Mind linking it? I think I found it, but I want to double check since you've done it before.

I really don't want to update windows so I'll do this later. Thanks anyways.

>>16025504

https://brightrockgames.userecho.com/knowledge-bases/2/articles/4394-black-screen-on-startup-on-linux-windows-post-20-update

>>16025687

Thank you anon. That's what I found.