263a1c No.16015458
Annoying Vidya Aesthetics
What video game aesthetics trigger your OCD? For me, it's the top-down 3D view mixed with sideways, 2D sprites. I believe the original Legend of Zelda set the stage for this aesthetic, but other games like The Binding of Isaac have adopted it.
It's jarring to me when sprites become improperly oriented with walls and other structures. For example, when link is walking through a door at the bottom of the screen, it looks like he's laying on his back. If you're going to have a top-down view of a level, you need a top-down view of the sprites as well. Otherwise, do it like Gauntlet where all sprites are oriented with the same head-on, 45-degree angle.
d86285 No.16015510
For me and a lot of other I think, the artstyle of LOL, Fortnite, Icons, Overwatch and so on. I really don't like the 'realism but still cartoony' style, along with the newer graphical techniques like that bitch from Horizon Zero Dawn or something? They try to make things like skin super real and smooth and create this disgusting look for the characters.
3002d8 No.16015598
>>16015510
It's a shit fad and I can't wait for the day it dies a horrible death. Every 3D game nowadays is either ugly realism, cartoony realism, or cartoony disney shit.
850863 No.16015624
>>16015590
> Poz
Is there a term that isn't built from an annoyingly overused meme? Poz and cuck have really worn out their welcome.
14665f No.16015627
>>16015624
Nice try, soycuck. They're here to stay
6dcc51 No.16015630
>>16015590
Oh hey I'm in this screencap, I was the anon asking the question. I still don't like the name pozcore, it never caught on because it's stupid.
199917 No.16015634
>>16015624
It's a controlled opposition term. Force it among everyone, then look for the few retards who use it outside of imageboards and circlejerk over how they are dumb and you are not.
850863 No.16015659
>>16015627
You can't shit on Reddit for being unoriginal memeing faggots who just parrot everything that's popular in their forum and also turn around and be an edgy Reddit yourselves. You've got to see the hypocrisy there. The soy cuck poz shit got old long ago.
09d3ea No.16015665
First person dungeon crawlers are SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
433bc3 No.16015675
All modern hipstershit 3d games with neon fog. It happens so much.
ad26d0 No.16015690
>>16015458
When buildings in sprite based games are solid all the way to their top so you can't walk behind them.
Old pokemon games had some really severe cases.
9a6785 No.16015700
Pixelshit and lowpoly indie shit. all AAA games looking the same with that plastic looking realistic graphics
ab77b3 No.16015701
>>16015458
This use to bother me too. It stopped me from getting into Zelda until Wind Waker.
Illusion of Gaia was the game that cured me of this peculiarity.
e777d3 No.16015705
>>16015624
The problem is that it's actually quite specific a style, despite being so overused. A catch-all, one or two word term that describes it in its own name is not something I can come up with, really.
>>16015700
This.
bd9af4 No.16015721
>>16015700
>>16015705
>underage faggots don't know that rotated sprites are still period correct
d36ead No.16015737
>>16015659
No anon you see anything that owns the libs is automatically cancer free and can never be anything but cool and hip no matter how overused it is
e777d3 No.16015748
>>16015721
You're retarded.
In most cases, rixels are a result of a game running at a much higher resolution than the average old game, say 1080p, with sprites scaled up five or six times. Rixels, which are a result of in-engine rotation of pre-scaled sprites, result in pixels in between pixels, in other words, mixels. See my first image >>16015705 again up-close. The first image is how a rotated sprite would look in that resolution. The second creates much smaller pixels than it should. A very simple way to avoid this is to render a game in a low resolution, then scale the whole screen up, but most indie devs are hacks.
It's not sprite rotation that's the problem. It's how they're rotated that breaks the very core limitations of consoles.
It's the same thing with mixels, too. Many consoles, and especially home computers like the C64, utilized sprite scaling quite extensively, or used double wide pixels to get more colors, and so on. But in most cases, mixels are a result of lack of giving a shit, not an imitation of style limitations. It's usually shit like Celeste, where the pixel art is scaled up six times at 1080p, yet the font, text boxes and portraits are normal-sized, and the fonts are aliased like any other modern game.
d86285 No.16015749
>>16015721
But they are still grid-aligned you cockslurper
875d93 No.16015766
>>16015700
Mostly agreed but this YIKES shit is closer to early 00's cel shaded games than true low poly like Interstate 76. That one would take skill to replicate.
f69ca1 No.16015792
>>16015634
Poz isn't even an imageboard term.
9a6785 No.16015843
>>16015766
i dont have much pics of shit indie low poly
10280c No.16015859
>>16015590
>bulldyke shrek
>west anime twink supreme
>smug furry turbomanlet
you know it's fucked when your generic stronk womyn are the least irritating iterations
thank god it died as fast and outright as possible
433bc3 No.16015893
>>16015843
The Treyvon testimony was more consistent than the pixels here.
3b1f11 No.16015919
>>16015458
>Annoying Vidya Aesthetics
While I still like the music, it's coolness was short lived a few years back with Blood Dragon and Hotline Miami. The teal and magenta meme is now synonymous with cancer. If a video game apes the vibe then it screams uncreative, derivative and soy soaked trash that is desperate to be apart of the cool kids club.
>>16015721
>dum dum reveals he doesn't know the difference between Mod 7 and Rixels
way to out yourself.
>>16015843
I don't think low poly or Pixel art is intrinsically bad. But its all too often just an excuse for laziness.
c6adc5 No.16015920
>>16015590
>>16015859
Its kinda ironic that it's called Icons yet none of them are iconic (in a good way) and just served as Smash character mechanics (like Marth tipper) instead of trying to be more original.
Ripoffs/Terrible Doppelgangers would have been a more appropriate name.
>>16015700
You know pixelart has gotten bad, when 1992 IJ has the slight indication of eyes, mouth and ears. Hands with thumbs and even possible body language.
While the 2014 game has none of those, it's frustrating that indie games can't even give their character facial feature detail, even Celeste didn't do it.
3b1f11 No.16015921
433bc3 No.16015926
>>16015920
The real kicker is the legs. Try and count how many shitty indie games actually have legs that aren't a single color and one pixel wide.
46d117 No.16015961
I always hated the way wow looks,especially the garish colours
433bc3 No.16015963
>>16015961
WoW's probably the only game to have gotten exponentially uglier the more they've worked on it.
ab77b3 No.16016020
>>16015721
>rotated sprites
That's not how it works you little shit.
9a6785 No.16016025
>>16015919
me neither i just hate when indie devs do it worse than guys from the 90s
>>16015920
yeah why do they hate detail? ever old ass game i used to play still has lots of detail, even NES games looked better than the shit indies push out
433bc3 No.16016033
>>16016025
It really wouldn't be a problem if they ever bothered to improve, for exaple's sake the people behind Metal Slug had been making games for over a decade when that came out, but they never do. If anything they just get worse.
dbf2bb No.16016049
>>16015961
I'm guessing that's from Wrath. The armor sets in that xpac look washed out, probably to go along with the wintry visuals. Lack of AA also doesn't help that image.
c6adc5 No.16016053
>>16015926
What's bizzare about this "modern indie pixelart/human twig with no detail" art style is where did it first originate?
Because I can say this reminds me of is that Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery with it horribly simple "female" character who has been interpreted as the neckless humanoid monster with nesting momma bird and chick riding on it.
>>16016025
>even NES games looked better than the shit indies push out
NES Remix has given me a greater appreciate for that style in recent years, the boot up screen composed of all the square/rectangle close ups of the characters sprites looks really nice together, would have been good for poster art.
Even when playing the e-Reader version of Donkey Kong Jr, I always liked the detail of how DK Jr's eyes would bug out when he would die. There's more character in that death animation then some of these indie attempts at pixel humans.
433bc3 No.16016071
>>16016053
It started from hipster webcomic art trying to imitate Johnny The Homicidal Maniac.
>rectangle torso
>literally zero crotch
>twig legs
Ever heard of Buttlord: GT? One of the guy's who worked on it has a style that's exact what I'm talking about. he also worked on the superbrothers game
60e017 No.16016095
>>16016053
>What's bizzare about this "modern indie pixelart/human twig with no detail" art style is where did it first originate?
I always thought that they were trying to copy Cave Story. That, Super Meat Boy, and World of Goo seemed to be the ones that first fueled the rise of "Indie gaming".
9a6785 No.16016160
>>16016095
i wanna fuck that robutt
4ca5db No.16016226
>>16015920
<and just served as Smash character mechanics
Icons was trying extremely hard to be diet no-fun Smash
>every stage is a variant of Battlefield or Final Destination
>no items
>smaller roster than fucking Smash 64
>not only that, but only 3 characters are available off the bat
>for the rest you have to shut down your brain and play an insane amount of time to unlock them
>or you don't want to play for that long? That'll be around 5 dollars per character, goy. Oh, and not counting future characters.
I honestly fail to see who this game was even catering to, because even oldfag smash autists still competitively playing melee actually got into the series for the zany idea of nintendo characters from different franchises beating eachother, and for being a fun and simple brawler to play with 3 other people, but with a fuckton of playable characters.
And speaking of aesthetics, good lord the in-game graphics of that game were terrible as well. That cel-shading makes it look like some cheap shitty web browser 3D unity project rather than a finished game.
c6adc5 No.16016556
>>16016226
>zany idea of nintendo characters from different franchises beating eachother
This is one of the things Icons doesn't get, Smash was about Nintendo characters first and then adapting attacks/fighting style based off their own games.
At the same time since they used pre-existing characters it means that they don't have to worry about MUH DIVERSITY. SSB64 got away with 1 human woman who you couldn't even see under the armour and with Ultimate still doesn't have to worry about having a black man rep or something because it's just a crossover.
While Icons is like this character plays like Falcon but as a black woman! Here's a goat critter whose Fox! Ice Climbers but they are magic statue creatures who can activate/inactivate one at a time! I'll admit that last one sounds kinda interesting
Icons would have been better asking questions like how would Simon Belmont play in Smash (or other characters that had yet to be announced for Ultimate at the time) and then go from there. Imagine if they could have come up with something like Bowser but in Peach's body type?
Or something truly crazy stupid like a pith helmet wearing centuar who duel wields nunchucks and whose back legs are paralysed so he uses a wheelchair with buzzsaws for wheels. He's a hungry old fighter who just wants to eat the 1st prize trophy because someone tricked him into thinking it was chocolate wrapped in gold foil.
4ba2f9 No.16016599
>>16015590
What the fuck is going on with artists who can't make good fucking direction? These characters look like they're all from different games and don't stand out in any way. It's a fucking mess.
875d93 No.16016600
>>16016095
Going by memory the most important games to this crowd were Ico, Rez, Cave Story and El Viento. Cave Story was a direct influence for sure, but El Viento used ultra pixelated sprites ironically, which served as an excuse to keep going in that direction. If your google fu is strong you might want to check out "The Gamer's Quarter", a pdf zine run by indie thought leaders around that time. It's exactly what you think it would be.
433bc3 No.16016601
>>16016556
> Smash was about Nintendo characters first
It was about original characters at first actually.
https://www.ssbwiki.com/Unused_content_(SSB)
a18e00 No.16016852
>>16016601
And, ironically, Sakurai changed the direction to include Nintendo characters because he didn't want to make a story for the game. He just wanted a simple fighting game that was pure gameplay, and, apparently, console fighting games were "required" to include a story.
2b1ee2 No.16016878
>>16015598
>>16015510
I for one like the style. There are some that definitely get it wrong, but essentially it's western equivalent to "3d anime". Just like anime, it's relatively simple to produce and the flat colors and limited detail hide a lot of imperfections.
Consider Overwatch. You know how everyone here always says it's only good for the porn? The only reason it's good for porn at all is because (some of) the characters manage to be (somewhat) attractive, and the only way that a western developer can manage to do that is with this artstyle.
676da1 No.16016882
>>16015510
CalArts was a mistake.
433bc3 No.16016890
>>16016878
It looks like ass you unemployable Pixar reject.
2b1ee2 No.16016896
>>16016890
Ass>Diarrhea, which is what every modern realistic game looks like.
676da1 No.16016922
>>16016020
>rotated "sprites" weren't real in my mind
Explain SNES Mode7 and making bosses out of the background instead of sprites, and then rotating them.
1762c0 No.16017214
>>16015590
what other games go pozcore besides LoL, Overwatch and ICONS?
2b1ee2 No.16017307
>>16017214
TF2, WoW, Super Mario 64, it's a pretty broad category.
639a28 No.16017368
>>16016049
Yeah, it's Wrath. The leveling/dungeon sets are dogshit, as are some of the raiding sets. Pic related.
3b1f11 No.16017391
>>16016922
Rixels are when the actual pixies are rotated because it's running on a modern engine. Same issue essentially with Mixels. This is likely due to the fact that the art is rendered mapped onto a Vector as opposed to being Raster art.
252545 No.16017909
458018 No.16017920
>>16015624
People who say "have really worn out their welcome" are the biggest cunts on Earth.
293333 No.16017923
>>16017920
I guess those people have really worn out their welcome
f005ab No.16017984
>>16015590
I wanna fuck that green woman
19f20e No.16017992
2fadc2 No.16018250
I hate games with those weird plastic/clay-like creepy models, they were mostly on phones but now many pc and console games look like that too. Recent examples - Failout 4 and Outer Worlds.
Also phone ui's look like shit, they don't fit the game at all, see mobile/steam FF3-6 ports. As if they couldn't port the NDS remake interface.
The worst offender is pixel indie shit in 21st century. Don't make a game if you can't afford making good graphics, your pixel "art" is shit too.
979fd1 No.16018271
Any game that emulates the feel of "tabletop roleplaying games", by which they mean Dungeons and Dragons. The thing is, we abandoned that shit for a reason: they simply aren't fun on a consistent basis. The bar-for-entry to tabletop gaming is high, and the reward is small and pointless.
aeb515 No.16018298
>>16015590
I'm glad we created a name for this. So far this and Cal Arts make me want to nuke the entire creative wing of society.
3b1f11 No.16018343
>>16018271
Tabletop is entirely depended on the intelligence and charisma of who you are playing with. The Genre when translated into the digital medium loses its humanity and the failed attempt to emulate that experience is falls on the writing staff. The amounts of iteration required to properly simulate real interactions is innumerable and the cost of development is is prohibitive. Moreover, the act of story telling is in conflict with the core nature of gameplay. Compound those issues with crippling proscriptions of a half baked political ideology and you have a recipe for disaster.
Making a RPG that is authentic to Tabletop is has alot in common with the meme of open world sandbox procedural generation. Both are also closely tied to Trans-humanist dreams of creating a matrix or holodeck to escape into. On an engineering level these things are interesting and worth investing into R&D but they don't make for fun game experiences. These projects are often driven by mentally ill men who want to cut off their dicks and larp as women.
Also Chris Avellone is a hack and Planescape torment is overrated garbage and the "Golden" age of Western RPG's was a meme because even the infinity engine games where lackluster when it came to core game play mechanics. Infinity engine was propped up by the writing and that kind of experience does not lend itself to huge grand adventures and works much better in confined environments. That is why fallout 1 and its small scope despite the engine limitations is in respect to actual "Roll playing" the only truly fully successful RPG. In this regard Warren Spector had the right idea when he talked about the Ideal "One City Block" RPG.
16e0a7 No.16018349
>>16015627
>I-it's not a phase dad!
2c8346 No.16018422
>>16015634
>>16015624
Commit suicide. Now. We won't be falling for your dialectic.
c90138 No.16018428
>>16015665
Someone hates comfy.
16e0a7 No.16018449
>>16018404
Oh yes, because if there's one things that's definitely just a phase around here, it's posting images on an imageboard.
Do remember this conversation once you've found the next word to replace soy, the same way soy replaced hipster. Keeping in mind the only thing that won't change is that no one takes you seriously when you spout buzzwords.
20cf27 No.16018456
impractical ugly messy heavy complicated
a piece of shit design
6dcc51 No.16018496
>>16015665
They're like that because of the technological limitations 80's computers had. They couldn't actually render a 3D environment, so they used images to simulate that while having the actual game working on a 2D grid. Doom does something similar but on much more complex level.
433bc3 No.16018563
>>16018456
I really miss early twentieth century era spandex with fishbowl helmets.
4dca31 No.16018594
>the interface icon for electric damage in the game is yellow
>electricity itself in the game is consistently purple
433bc3 No.16018599
>>16018594
>electricity is the same damage type as poison
a6ab71 No.16018618
>>16018607
>getting butthurt at being called out for being an idiot that got baited
>trying to use some dumb shit like "TOO MANY REPLIES >:(((" as a cover
lmao faggot
>>16018599
Or even worse
>ice and fire are the exact same
6dcc51 No.16018633
>>16018599
>>16018618
>ice, fire, poison and electricity are functionally identical with different particle effects
433bc3 No.16018639
>>16018633
>every spell has the same number of tiers and iterations
>except water and earth for no reason
be46af No.16018696
re2 remake perspective is prime example of everything wrong with today's games.
3b1f11 No.16018870
>>16018422
>if you don't fully accept my ridiculous controlled opposition ideology then you are a CUCKOLD!
<its a bit more nuanced and this term has become anti-intellectual and reductionist cancer
>FUCK YOU CUCK! WE WON'T BE FALLING FOR YOUR DIALECTIC!
>We
433bc3 No.16018938
>>16018696
I'm more miffed about the change in script, art style and tone that just completely sucks out any remnants of personality my self.
68c566 No.16018941
Bloom, motion blur, chromatic abberation, depth of field, lens flare and most lighting effects really get on my tits, they just make it harder to see whats going on and in turn make the gameplay less fun.
2a19f9 No.16023185
Games running on full 3D engines but still using 2D sprites for characters are annoying especially if it is in third-person. It's hard to explain but it makes controlling the character much harder.
c90138 No.16023284
Call me a faggot but I absolutely fucking hate portraits in older western fantasy games. Rarely do they look good, they either look like photos of badly dressed Larpers or are just fucking ugly. Looks at Heroes 2 where everyone looks like they have a disfigured face, women look like men and everybody seems to suffer from autism. Heroes 3 isn't much better with a few of them looking good but many just making bizarre facial expressions. Most western old RPGs has similar problems. I don't mind the models, usually the blocky models or the sprites look nice, but whenever western devs tried to portray a human face close up it ended up fucking horribly. At least when they were trying to be realistic, differently stylized styles usually looked alright.
252545 No.16023293
>>16023185
MK64 is not harder to control, faggot.
96a8ba No.16023327
>>16023185
2D sprites in a low poly 3D world is my favorite video game aesthetic
667dc6 No.16023347
>>16018599
>>16018618
What game does this?
0d4f38 No.16023368
>>16023284
Most of the Might & Magic games have terrible portraits. Come to think of it almost every western RPG before the late 90s looked terrible.
eb6617 No.16023394
>>16023284
No wonder people like playing Sandro, he's the only one that looks positively badass.
09acbe No.16023937
>>16015737
>being this mad
Pozcuck.
875d93 No.16026483
>>16023368
>Most of the Might & Magic games have terrible portraits. Come to think of it almost every western RPG before the late 90s looked terrible.
It was mostly 3DO that pushed that budget prerendered look, but M&M6 was one of the biggest RPGs of the 90s and held a lot of bad influence in the industry.
3b1f11 No.16026507
>>16023284
>western developers where never good at female faces
8825d8 No.16026513
>>16023284
Is that Tom Green with a goatee? Western games always had shitty artwork.
433bc3 No.16026515
>>16023347
The first is WoW. It's so bad to the point where there's these elementals made of poisonous water that are somehow completely immune to electric based attacks or earth based interrupts.
3dedb8 No.16026522
>>16015458
You know someone was going to bring it up eventually.
cb9373 No.16026545
>>16015665
Don't talk shit about Grimrock in this house ever again.
46d117 No.16026563
>>16026513
nah, I think that's a genetic hybrid of adam sandler and steven segal
cfedc0 No.16027691
>>16016556
the statue guys are actually way more distinct from ice climbers, it's just nobody notices because the Icons dev team doesn't have any confidence in their original ideas and only starts you off with the smash ripoffs
>>16018456
Needs more random bright lights in the seams between plates
a08cd0 No.16029726
>>16026522
I don't think that even counts. It's not so much a graphic as a symbolic representation of a graphic, because aside from the dofs themselves, nothing looks like what it really is. It's one step above a tabletop spreadsheet.
On topic: I can't fucking stand the visual style of Terraria. Which is sad because it's legitimately a good game that I want to play. Just the way the characters swing the tools like pickaxes in this bizarre huge arc, and that the characters are fucking tiny that I almost have to get out a magnifying glass to see them, drives me into a frothing rage of the type that OP was probably driving at. Makes me want to tear my hair out to look at it.
263a1c No.16029743
>>16026522
reminds me of zzt
9252a0 No.16029745
>>16027691
That gives me a stupid idea for a mission.
>go to club to kill guy
>has armor gets more and more lit up as you go on
>guy at the end is just a walking light target
>turns out the guy they were supposed to kill wears a suit that turns invisible and past you while you were being a moth
7362bd No.16029778
>>16029726
>have to get out a magnifying glass to see them
Get your eyes checked out m8
a08cd0 No.16029804
>>16029778
>Editing posts to omit key words, therefore changing their meaning
The fake news media called: they want their tactics back.
992359 No.16029978
>>16026515
Poisonous water elementals.. so immune to nature damage. "Electric" attacks are either considered nature or arcane damage (so I am going to assume that you attempted to attack a poisonous water elemental with lightning bolt or whatever it was called, a shaman ability of some sort). "Earth based" interrupts are nature. There's only 6 types of magic in ye olde vanilla WoW (nu-WoW lets anyone attack anything, no more fire elementals being immune to fire). The 6 types being: Fire, Frost, Arcane, Nature, Shadow, and Holy. All can be resisted by players, except holy (which can only be resisted if you're a higher level than the enemy attacking or absorbed with general damage shields, alternatively there is a potion that provides a shield specifically against holy damage). Certain mobs are immune to certain types of magic, though none are immune to holy except that one boss in Blackwing Lair, Chromaggus, I think. He is not specifically immune to anything, he shifts what he's immune to after getting attacked by magic of some kind. Really, your problem is that blizzard didn't put in more damage types. Instead of making poisons their own thing, they lumped it in as "nature damage", and electric attacks are usually nature damage.. so because of this lack of granularity, envenomed daggers and balls of electricity are resisted entirely by the same mob (when only the envenomed daggers should be resisted entirely).
dc0748 No.16030053
>>16015458
The thing that pisses me off is when you have a "retro" (God I fucking hate when faggots call it that) 16-bit sprite game, yet insist on using a shitty 8-bit chiptune soundtrack, with zero regards to authenticity. Pisses me off every fucking time.
>>16015510
>>16015590
>>16016878
I don't necessarily mind the 3D CalArts look, because I'd prefer seeing that over the brown-and-bloom CliffyB faggotry that invaded the fucking landscape for a solid decade. Doesn't make it good, but I like seeing games that have a semblance of a color palette now, even if it's solely an attempt to grab those Fortnite kids.
>>16015919
I'm fucking glad this shit is dead, but it was obnoxious shit for the past six years or so since Hotline Miami came out.
c6adc5 No.16030166
>>16021924
Everyone (including the statues) in the right image looks like they got startled by something off screen.
3b1f11 No.16030370
>>16030053
>I'm fucking glad this shit is dead
Anon the teal and magenta is alive and well. Just look at trash like Dead Cells, Celeste, Afterparty, The Last Night, hyper-light-drifter, Enter the Gungeon, Travis Strikes again, Fe, futuregrind, Octahedron transfixed.Instead of Brown and Bloom the new tread is to have neon purple lighting in everything. Its almost like game developers are intentionally using what people would have traditionally considered girl colors in order to sell their product.
3b1f11 No.16030371
0aa55a No.16030446
>>16026545
Grimrock 2 is kind of off with it's out doors environments because of how square everything is and everything is perfectly 3D. Normally for 2D dungeon crawlers the walls would be tree patterns to give the impression there is a wider forest.
a08cd0 No.16031543
>>16030370
>traditionally considered girl colors
>Purple: the color of royalty since time immemorial
>Magenta: a saturated pink which was a boy color up until the 20th century
>Teal: babby color theorist's first match with human skin color
I don't like this shit, either; but you don't know a goddamned thing that you're talking about.
4305ba No.16031782
>Want things to look "sci-fi"
>Do this by slapping tons of pointless bits and pieces on outfits, environments, and everything else
802fbe No.16031831
>>16016922
Pixels are actually a grid on a screen you faggot, not some arbitrary unit of square measurement. It's impossible on old screens to render an image that isn't made up of visible squares. Modern screens have way more pixels and higher resolution to the point where "pixels" have colloquially become an artstyle rather than a technical measurement of your screen size. The games looked that way because of the displays they were designed for and hardware limitations at the time. Making a pixel art game with rixels is like making a traditional English fruitcake, and then pouring sugar icing and Hersheys chocolate syrup all over it. You ruined the entire point of the exercise, which was to preserve an older style, by mixing it with new things that make it look/taste like total shit.
802fbe No.16031844
>>16031782
>want to make something look sci fi
>HEXAGON MOTIF, HEXAGONS EVERYWHERE, HEXAGONS ARE THE FUTURE
Is it some kind of Jewish reference to the star of David? I never understood this.
433bc3 No.16031848
>>16031782
I like to believe most designs like this and what you see from Nomura are just cases of somebody paid by the hour. They just keep adding on to it over the course of the game's production until it resembles a fridge getting gang raped by a truckload of magnets.
672e93 No.16031857
>>16031844
Hexagons are just a cool looking shape. What other basic shape looks as cool? Maybe triangles.
802fbe No.16031863
>>16031857
It's a cool shape that fits in grid patterns. Why does everything need to be hexagonal grids in the future? Conventional engineering wisdom states that triangles are the strongest shape for building structures. Does that somehow magically change in the future?
433bc3 No.16031869
>>16031844
>>16031863
I think there might be some "future > loss of autonomy > drone > bee > beehive" symbolism going on but who knows. I doubt there's much conscious decision in art design anymore.
3215c8 No.16032004
>>16031869
I'm pretty sure it's because they show up so much in organic chemistry
802fbe No.16032011
>>16031869
>>16032004
I'd be fine if they showed up every once in a while, but it's worse than sewer levels in 90s shooters. I can't help but notice every single time a game makes use of hexagon grids for aesthetic purposes now. Hexagons are ruined for me.
4dca31 No.16032116
>>16016922
Sprites deformed by Mode7 had the same resolution and palette as the original sprites. It's not the same kind of rotation as you would get in Photoshop or in a modern game engine, where pixels are computed as little vector squares with anti-aliasing.
c90138 No.16032304
>>16023284
This shit still fucking bothers me.
c90138 No.16032307
>>16032304
I wanted to post those.
14665f No.16032347
e0e180 No.16032397
>>16017214
Do you realize how many knock-offs LoL has alone? And almost all of them have that art-style to boot, even the Chinese one with Shrek somewhat.
a15f7d No.16032402
>>16031844
>>16031869
Hexagons are the strongest shape. You probably thought it was triangles, but you were wrong. It was hexagons all along.
After all, a hexagon is 6 triangles.
And 6 is 1+2+3.
And 6 is also 1x2x3.
it's the super strong science shape undefeatable by man or machine, and it sounds like a bad joke but I'm serious. However, I think you can still blame the jews somehow.
01c5f7 No.16032437
>>16026545
Grimrock was terrible compared to the games it was paying homage to.
4ca5db No.16032442
>>16015665
What's the matter, anon? Afraid some goblin will pop up like a jumpscare?
169b52 No.16032460
>>16016882
calarts has nothing to do with it
b1f44e No.16032499
>>16026513
>>16026563
If I recall correctly, it's actually a picture of one of the devs.
3b1f11 No.16032504
>>16032307
WESTERN DEVELOPERS NEVER COULD MAKE GOOD LOOKING FACES
>>16031543
<Purple was the color of royalty because lapis lazuli was expensive and the only way to make blue pigments therefore trashy Neon colors is exactly the same thing.
Go fuck yourself you dumb nigger. These colors are fucking queer and you know it.
c90138 No.16032536
>>16032504
The problem is that there are a couple that actually look alright, and you are just left wondering "Why couldn't all of them have decent quality?"
7bc87b No.16032539
>>16027691
>Needs more random bright lights in the seams between plates
I hate this shit with all my soul.
<Year 2273
>Hey what should we do for this armor, nowadays almost everything has either automatic target recognition or IR imaging built into it
<stick some LEDs on it lol
Something that bothers me also from sci-fi is that the fucking aliens never look like aliens. They only come in lanky tall dude, beefy tall dude, beefy short dude, generically hot alien girls or regular ass human with shit stuck to their face. This may be pretty autistic of me but fucking god damn, do the assholes who design this shit know what evolutionary ecology is?
>Hey so even though the human form is optimized for a specific hunting-gatherer niche with emphasis on long distance running lets make every single alien anthropomorphic since we suck dicks
God forbid that you cunts are actually creative. Can't have shit like sentient starfish that constantly need a specific liquid in order to move, can't have a race of cephalopod like creatures that comunicate through colors, can't have a civilization made up entirely of slime mold people who can merge together sharing minds, can't have a race of sentient trees whose reproductive phase is mobile and the adult is sessile. Yes, all this shit already exists on earth, but that makes it more infuriating: you can look out the fucking window and see how varied life is but you can't even be arsed to design something even slightly less human. Oh and of course, they are all able to speak, even though here on earth you have everything for sound communication to direct cell to cell communication between species.
I'm not even going to talk about the biochemistry of alien lifeforms since they inevitably have:
>the ability to survive in an oxidizing atmosphere
>posess DNA
>can live comfortably in 1 atm of pressure
>even though the above would be miraculous if found in a real alien, fiction aliens have some dumbass ability like being able to make capuccinos appear out of thin air or some shit
At least mass effect tried something by mentioning that there's races with differing chiralities of aminoacids and sugars, but the problem really is how the fuck do they use aminoacids and sugars in the first place. Oh, okay, so your planet also just happened to develop carbon based life, complete with DNA, RNA and Protein translation, but juuust so happens that you guys use β-L-glucose and D-tyrosine instead? Fuck off.
I wish I could that sci-fi tried harder, but honestly sci-fi barely tries at all.
c90138 No.16032541
>>16032504
And more importantly, why the fuck is it like this? Why the fuck do western devs suck so fucking much at making something that just looks plainly pleasant to look at?
3b1f11 No.16032544
>>16032536
What do you mean by couple that actually look alright?
433bc3 No.16032547
>>16032539
They don't do it because that would be harder than reusing human models and getting in bed with Hollywood mocap studios.
c90138 No.16032563
>>16032544
That sometimes you can find a western-made face in old vidya that doesn't look absolutely uncanny.
a18e00 No.16032576
>>16032504
That snek looks hot.
0838d8 No.16032646
>>16032576
dont fuck snakes theyre too good for you
8abd45 No.16032678
>>16032646
This.
Instead, lay down and submit to them, and she can give you a full body hug from the inside
a18e00 No.16032702
File: 67647ba08353023⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 181.01 KB, 1280x956, 320:239, 769079a78d1cf52f9d020c6c6a….jpg)
>>16032678
>That spoiler
Okay?
9bd82d No.16032704
>>16018633
It's pretty much the reason why I made a thread months ago about elemental damage. I wish they made more games where elemental attacks weren't functionally the same. If etrian odyssey can get it right then why can't the rest?
3b1f11 No.16032705
>>16032563
>you can find a western-made face in old vidya that doesn't look like absolute shit
I honestly doubt that
fce174 No.16032711
>>16015458
>I believe the original Legend of Zelda set the stage for this aesthetic
You'd be wrong. It can be traced back to Adventure for the Atari 2600.
0aa55a No.16032728
>>16032011
Hexagons on a macro scale is believed to be something that will occur naturally with materials the successfully incorporate graphene into it's structure, plus Crysis kind of made hexagons the big tell for nanomachine.
352681 No.16032820
>>16032539
I'll give you everything about most aliens being lazy recolors of humans, but I don't honestly know what you're expecting from the biochemistry angle. I get the standard earth atmosphere and pressure part of the complaint, but what exactly is your complaint about the chirality? What are you asking for? Do you want the writers to detail an entirely different system of organic molecules made of bullshit arrangements of elements? Do you want the writers to detail a lipid based form of genetic information, or do you want something along the line of "It's a silicon based life form" shit, with it either being a computer or basically just swapping carbon with silicon as the backbone of "organic" molecules?
I'd expect every form of vaguely functional alien life to have some sort of versatile compact building blocks for it's genetic information and functional macro-molecules. I get the want for a more in depth focus on alien physiology and biochemistry, but there's no way in hell someone is going to be autistic enough or have enough time and funding to attempt to thoroughly detail a nonexistent system of biochemicals for every single alien race in a game. We'd probably still end up with vague hollow explanations of how alien life works, a clusterfuck of poorly thought out novel concepts mashed together, or a game with a tiny number of alien species.
I understand what you're saying, but I don't think there's much hope of getting a lot of this without generic mystery bio-chemical shenanigans.
fc05dc No.16032932
>>16030370
A few years ago every indie dev rediscovered what CMYK was, the novelty has to wear off at some point.
4c6da4 No.16033032
>>16015458
FUCKING PRE-RENDERED SPRITES
afb3a9 No.16033046
>>16033032
Wait, what? Shining Force' sprites aren't-
>read filenames
oh
I'm fucking retarded, but yes I agree, pre-rendered sprites almost always look like niggerballs
4c6da4 No.16033052
>>16033046
It's even worse than usual in Golden Sun because it keeps zooming in and out and just makes them look like pixel vomit.
a18e00 No.16033097
>>16032820
>I get the want for a more in depth focus on alien physiology and biochemistry, but there's no way in hell someone is going to be autistic enough or have enough time and funding to attempt to thoroughly detail a nonexistent system of biochemicals for every single alien race in a game.
I feel like the terminals in Halo, the books in Bayonetta,and the libraries in just about any good RPG disprove you on that one. Though, that's also the part that people seem to miss: majority of people don't give a shit about this stuff. Yeah, reading all the caveats of how things work is a nice "bonus" to for people who like to delve deeper into the universe, but most don't care as long as the gameplay is good and the story is enjoyable. Heck, sometimes it's better if you DON'T explain everything because people like getting lost in a world of "endless wonder" and it loses some of it's fantastical and mysterious properties when someone writes, in every autistic detail, how what you see happening is "physically possible".
You want to know reasons why scientists are the biggest sticks in the mud when it comes to fiction? It's because they want everything to be accurate, but most don't care as evidenced by how George Lucas was able to make billions with light sabers and dinosaurs still appear as inaccurately as they were 25 years ago.
afb3a9 No.16033114
>>16033052
Speaking of Shining Force, I fucking loved its artstyle. Everything felt "chunky" and colorful, while still extremely stylized. A shame there aren't more games in that style. Instead, we get shittacular pseudo-NES-but-with-infinite-color-palette "retro" "style".
0d868e No.16033188
My gripe is beasts crammed into places they don't belong. One of the weirdest offenders is giant crabs in dungeons. There's never any water or things for them to eat other than the player, so what the fuck is with them?
>Grimrock: floor full of crabs
>Shining In The Darkness: fucking huge crabs that barely fit in their surprise-buttsecks alcoves
The worst offender? Wizardry 8, I believe. There's a stable in the middle of a dungeon that contains a "king crab." Why is the king of the crabs hiding in a stable that contains only wooden stalls and hay? I have no fucking idea, but it's retarded.
Don't even get me started on Bethesda's obsession with crustaceans.
87f9fc No.16034064
>>16015590
<developed by ex-Riot/EA/Blizzard people
<based in Commiefornia
433bc3 No.16034347
>>16033114
Agreed. It was a nice mix of Japanese and classic cartoon style, with that somewhat unique Genesis color palette, that really made the designs stick out. Shame about all the later games.
84b973 No.16034363
>>16033097
Rule of cool vs accuracy is something that a writer needs to know how to balance.
433bc3 No.16034496
>>16034363
I don't know about you but I'd consider plain ass humanoid aliens to be neither cool nor scientifically accurate.
7a45dc No.16034541
>>16018633
It can always be worse
>make gun that is a flamethrower with what is essentially an underbarrel cryothrower
>freeze target
>douse target in fire
>target is now taking damage from burning while still being frozen
Fuck EA
c6adc5 No.16036756
>>16027691
I think part of the reason Smash works is because it's a crossover, unless you make another platform fighter using different crossover characters it doesn't really have much appeal, because then you are basically pandering to the Smash crowd but without the "legacy" or fanbase for the established characters. The "hype" before a new Smash comes out over it's newcomers creates more discussion than the game after it's released.
For comparison Brawlout has a mix of original and indie characters while Slap City uses just the Lumosity characters
>>16034496
>>16032820
>>16033097
>>16034363
>>16034496
It has to be said. Blame Star Trek/Sci-Fi TV series for the humanoid aliens. While games like Mass Effect has excuse of the Unreal Engine only accepting humanoid/biped playable characters. Though this bring up questions of not trying to use some programming tricks like using an invisible humanoid with a multi limbed alien on the outside of it. If Fallout's Gamebyro engine can make train from a running NPC wearing a train carriage for a hat why can't that be done with Unreal?
It's no wonder why games like Star Control feature tons of crazy alien designs since it uses portraits.
a08cd0 No.16040059
>>16032504
>Those colors are queer because I said so
>He thinks purple dye is made from a blue mineral
You're a fucking idiot.
And you're a fucking idiot.
a8431a No.16040681
>>16036756
You can do that in Unreal but requires time to work around the limitations without triggering graphical anomalies. Bioware simply took the easy way and dedicated as little resources as possible for nob-humanoids.
cb9373 No.16040686
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16032504
Lapis Lazuli dyes are only one specific type you dense fuck. IRL blue fabric dies were made from plants like woad for cheap all over the damn place.
c90138 No.16051699
>>16032705
Sorry for replying to this late but I couldn't remind myself of what I was talking about. But Baldur's Gate for example, despite also having ugly portraits had some that looked very good. And there was also Disciples with portraits that look great.
3b1f11 No.16051746
>>16051699
>Baldur's Gate had some that looked very good
false
3b1f11 No.16051756
>>16040686
YOU DUMB NIGGER PURPLE WAS CONSIDERED A ROYAL COLOR BECAUSE IT WAS MADE WITH LAPIS LAZULI AND RED DYES WHICH WHERE RARE AND EXPENSIVE. PURPLE REPRESENTED WEALTH BECAUSE YOU NEEDED TO BE WEALTH TO OWN THOSE DIES
>Clothes made from the dye were exorbitantly expensive—a pound of purple wool cost more than most people earned in a year
https://www.history.com/news/why-is-purple-considered-the-color-of-royalty
d86285 No.16051766
>>16051756
> Purple
> With Lapis Lazuli
Imagine being this braindead when your own source contradicts you
ba7ea8 No.16051777
>>16040648
Well, the smaller the crt, the more noticeable the roundness, no? He seems pretty retarded to me. (Not to mention that in either case, complaining about it having roundness at all would be the more reasonable complaint.)
3b1f11 No.16051808
>>16051766
>purple isn't a girls color because muh royalty
my source also contradicts a08cd0 >>16031543
And Lapis Lazuli was a common pigment in that era so my mistake is understandable. So I really don't see how the faggot pushing feminist ideology is winning his gender war by being a pendent.
3b1f11 No.16051809
>Common
isn't the right word but you get the point
3d13b9 No.16051812
>>16051808
Purple is a god-tier color, existing at the edge of the visible light spectrum.
Purple represents the limits of your mortality, shitskin.
d86285 No.16051823
>>16051808
True, I was only commenting on what pigment is used for what color. Lapis Lazuli = blue, Funky Snails = purple.
3b1f11 No.16051840
>>16051823
Yes but Blue and Red make Purple and I was speaking from background as a painter. Who studied art history. The reason these color where popular back in the day was the same reason eccentricity is valuable today because it was flexing.
>>16051812
No purple represent your bloody bruised asshole because you are a huge faggot
a08cd0 No.16053267
>>16051808
>pushing feminist ideology
How did you get that from being told that your autism over certain colors is fucking bullshit?
You're an idiot. Get over it.
433bc3 No.16053360
>>16051777
>Well, the smaller the crt, the more noticeable the roundness, no?
No.
1d9fee No.16053384
>>16051777
He's calling the hackjob for what it is, a hackjob. Whether "a visual effect to emulate the appearance of a CRT TV" is necessary is a separate issue.