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>2D Minecraft: Now with more bloat

>>16013293

Shut up nigger.

>>16013293

>Implying

>>16013284

I recently went to play on my save, it was a new file… at night, got bored of waiting and closed it, I hate the fucking slow start, there is only so much you can work underground during the night when you have too much stuff on your backpack and only a few containers, I wish it had a "skip the night" mechanic for single play.

>>16013371

usually you can gather enough resources to keep busy during the night. you should be placing walls and furniture and shit.

>still no gamepad support

nah

>>16013386

I wish but the first few nights I end up having to go underground because I ran out of certain materials, I guess I will have to make a thin container using dirt.

>>16013391

https://terraria.gamepedia.com/Game_controls#Gameplay_Controls

???

I haven't seen a Terraria thread for fucking ever and I just realized I never played anything after 1.3.4.4 so I'm going to download 1.3.5.6 and go from scratch.

GoG magnet here:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:78a867c6a0776c23343e76c5038272f6561ca850&dn=Terraria+v1.3.5.3+%5BGOG%5D&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969

>>16013400

That music sure is comfy as fuck. I have to say though, the feature I'm anticipating the most is probably the block replacement. I'm also curious what the new NPC is gonna have.

>>16013411

sorry but that link wasn't for 1.3.5.6 it was 1.3.0.8 (some jew mislabeled the download) the best I could find was 1.3.5.2 –

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9393e57ebc65a92ed7e5db77548734e53d572ec4&dn=Terraria+V1.3.5.2&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337

I honestly am less interested with each update. The last time I gave a heck was before all the moonlord post game nonsense. Looking at these upcoming features and it seems to all be cosmetic.

I mean I think it is great that they are continuing to develop it and, judging by the change notes, are focused on listening to their hardcore fans and giving them what they want. Really though it just isn't that interesting for me anymore.

>>16014209

I think they need to do something radically new in order to keep Terraria interesting. I can't imagine what that something would be though other than a completely new map type or different dimension ala the Nether.

>>16014272

It feels like they're reworking the internals in order to support features that weren't previously possible, that would also explain why it's taking so long despite seemingly not having many proper new features.

>>16014297

64bit maybe?

>>16014297

>I can't imagine what that something would be though other than a completely new map type or different dimension ala the Nether.

Alternate hardmode maybe. Instead of beating the WoF have an alternative boss that causes hardmode to generate in a completely different fashion. That way they wouldn't fuck up their current game progression and they would have almost unlimited room for innovation.

>>16014934

A completely separate gamemode could work as well, something where the world generates/progresses differently. For example what if the whole world generated like a giant dungeon, with different biomes that have different structure and enemies, and doors that require keys to open.

>>16015026

>world is a giant dungeon

It would be amazing if implemented well. You could have blocks/puzzles you can only interact with given you have a particular item ala TLoZ giving it some sense of progression as you uncover more parts of the dungeon.

>>16014297

>>16014272

theyve already said 1.3.6 is a primer for 1.4.0

>>16015715

Not so good with random generation, but it's a neat project to try and work on as a custom map. I tried it once, didn't get very far with it but I just don't have the patience, creativity or drive for that sort of thing.

>>16015818

Prehistoric creatures could be a nice touch. I haven't seen many games using them as a basis for what's in the game, even though if you look at a regular biology book there's so much eldrich spawns to choose from that could make good enemies.

>>16014209

Makes me wonder if they were still planning on updating Terraria even when Otherworld were out. Also what was the reason Otherworld got canned anyways? They were working on it for 3 years or something.

>>16014297

>I can't imagine what that something would be though other than a completely new map type or different dimension ala the Nether.

Dimension support would be a huge boon to the modding community, we can only pray that they give it to us.

>>16017519

Wasn't it being outsourced to some studio that did jack shit in all that time? Or am I thinking of a different game?

>>16014342

you can just run vanila server it'll be fine even if you have a shiternet connection, i ain't picky.

Not that many anons play on the serbs anyhow.

You'll maybe get upwards of 4-5 active players and maybe 4 inactives.

at post-plantra that'll all drop down to about 2 active.

>>16013284

>it still hasn't been released

>>16013307

What the FUCK

>>16017891

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/unusacies-battle-rods-mod-use-special-fishing-rods-as-weapons.59998/

>>16017926

Ok, that explains part of it. According to the information on that mod, your spectre battle rod should have 5 "bobs", so why does it have over 22 hooks (that's just what I could count cleanly, there's clearly more overlapped)

>>16015715

>World is a giant dungeon.

>World is a giant crimson/corruption.

>World is a giant hallow floating island in the sky with more floating islands.

>World is a giant ocean.

>Etc. etc.

I don't know how well that idea would work in practice, but it's such a simple idea that I'm surprised it isn't mentioned more often.

>>16017941

One of the accessory types adds more bobbers.

I like Terraria, but I like Starbound more.

Go ahead, hate me. I'm too jaded to care anymore

here's your routine dosage of

modded server when

thank you for your time

>>16017941

>>16017955

plot twist: this mod just that replecates a bug that has existed in the game since fishing was first added.

>>16018108

>i'm jaded

>i like starbound

that's not how that works, sweetie.

>>16018145

>>16018137

I just like Starbound more. That's all.

>>16018183

That's fine, but why?

>>16018188

There are different worlds, as opposed to just biomes that are all different. If Terraria had "seasons" that changed the same area into something different, I'd love it. But this isn't about what I'd like to see, but what I actually like in Starbound vs Terraria.

I never liked the progression needed for boss battles Terraria had. I don't like how you have to craft items to summon a boss, which you need to build a stage to fight said boss in. In Starbound, the bosses are their own separate world spaces. This is a rather weak point, I know, especially considering that Starbound has that godawful story mode now. Keep in mind I'm not putting my best foot forward, I'll fully admit this is all subjective and if broken down terraria is the "superior game".

I enjoy the mystery meat creatures that appear in Starbound, and how you will find that the certain races of Starbound will terriform planets they are on. I'm not a fan of the dwarves and medieval theme. I don't like the glitch in Starbound for the same reason.

I enjoy the mods for Starbound more. Frackin universe and the extended++ mod series are amazing additions.

I enjoy playing Starbound more. It's not something that's easy to explain. It's the same premise as someone liking Dr robotniks mean bean machine over columns or any of the other many puzzle games. Just because something is better by all means, doesn't mean you will enjoy it more than something else.

I like Starbound, I like space, I like turning on some trance music and tunnelling to the core of an ice giant, before flying my ship to an ocean planet to harvest coconut trees.

I also love the idea of their being infinite worlds, many of which having no life on them, and building houses on them which no government, man, or beast can regulate.

>>16018222

>I like space, I like turning on some trance music and tunnelling to the core of an ice giant, before flying my ship to an ocean planet to harvest coconut trees.

>infinite worlds, many of which having no life on them, and building houses on them which no government, man, or beast can regulate.

This sounds like a marketing team wrote it. If you've actually played Starbound then it sounds even more so because you know it's a lot more shallow than that. You're describing a 100 mile wide puddle as a vast ocean.

>>16018238

He also mentioned Fracking Universe which adds a TON of gameplay and mechanics to the game. He isn't playing vanilla Starbound, most people don't.

>>16018233

What's wonderful about frackin universe is that there's an option to completely dismantle your ship, and rebuild it from the ground up. I built a behemoth of a ship out of bioluminescent black glass and old Shinto roof ruins. Absolutely beautiful IMO.

>>16018240

If you're talking about how good a game then mods don't count. Because if mods count then Bethesda makes the greatest games in history.

>>16018238

Like >>16018240 had said, I'm not playing vanilla. FU and the like add in so much more than vanilla offers, and if we need to have a dick measuring contest over which game is best without mods, or with mods, or just has a better development team, Terraria wins. I won't argue this. If you recall, this wasn't about me saying Terraria is bad, this is about how I like Starbound more.

And I'm very sorry I sound like a marketing agent. God help me, I talk about why fun things are fun.

>>16018246

>If you're talking about how good a game then mods don't count.

But that's wrong.

If something is fun with mods, then the game is fun. Sins of a Solar Empire is a great example. The only thing that mods don't help is the game's developers, which is why Bethesda is still shit, but mods make their games better.

>>16018282

>being butthurt over shitposting

I bet you get mad when people say you have a shitty main in Smash too.

Fucking Lipfags

>>16018294

I don't give money to the Disney of the video games industry.

>>16018215

That fucking skull house remains one of the coolest things I've seen someone build.

How do progress in this game? I'm stuck with wooden equipment and a shitty castle.

>>16018781

>How do progress in this game?

Explore, spelunk, fight monsters for drops and resources, craft. Try collecting a bunch of cactus and see what you can make from that.

>shitty castle

Post your castle.

>>16018789

Holy shit, source?

>>16018789

Oh come on, the apple juice didn't taste THAT bad.

>>16020619

Family home movies

The Blood Moon is rising

>>16018781

the wiki helps a ton, google it

>>16018173

>in memory of the fishing glitch.

It's still in the game tho….

>>16021655

It went away then came back.

First time playing what to do lads do i build house near the spawn? or go somewhere else?

>>16023618

Build at least something around the spawn.

>>16023618

>do i build house near the spawn

That's the best idea. Do be careful about placement of your base though because you'll break any placed blocks in a 2x3 area where you spawn into the world.

>>16023499

>I'm thinking there are throwing plans for the next game update

I hope so. It would make the most sense even though Re-Logic said a couple of years ago that they had no plans to expand the throwing class. Of course that was before Otherworld imploded so their plans may have changed.

It would be the easiest thing in the world to implement. There are a few weapons like the scourge of the corrupter and the daybreak could be transferred over to throwing just as they are. Maybe boomerangs too.

>>16023640

>>16023647

Some slimes spawn on me all the time basically at night i cant do shit expect sit in my cuck shed because mobs are too much

>>16023653

Please make a wooden broadsword. Also make at least three valid buildings/rooms. Three NPCs on screen will completely suppress enemy spawning on screen other than from events or bosses.

>>16023687

In addition to what this anon said, find some sunflowers and plant them near your house as they will give you a buff that also helps out.

>>16023694

Make a campfire too. It helps with health regen and you can use it to cook marshmallows.

>>16023749

Make a roof before the fucking eyes get in.

>>16023749

I'd put that housing on a 2 tile foundation. Next thing you know you'll get caought in a blood moon and zombies will bust your doors down. Or you could put a block barricade inside when that happens.

>>16023779

too late one already get in i kill it tho

>>16023771

ok will do that

Can i remove the tombstone because it trigger me its outside my house

>>16013293

I don't think its possible to have more bloat than craft, even without the mods and modding API required to make it good.

>>16023839

I'm pretty sure dribblers will float right up that tower. Maybe add a trapdoor.

>>16023918

>Mediumcore

You may want to put your items in a box and restart on the lower one (or a higher one, but not if it's your first time). It's not called Tediumcore for nothing.

>>16023940

Dripplers have rather stupid AI and never manage to make it to the opening as they keep floating up on the outside to attempt to get to me.

>>16024216

Cakeville

>>16024260

hosting cakeville at 73.242.204.45 port 10800

>>16014209

>>16014297

They really need more non-building content. Terraria is already king big dick of 2d building games, refining the 2d combat to be more satisfying and engaging would add a lot more to the game. Sadly it would probably upset the kiddies.

>>16024416

That's mainly why I want a sequel/spinoff rather than Terraria updates. Because a lot of Terraria's mechanics are very simplistic and it can't really change them significantly at this point. The Old Man's Army weapon drops show glimpses of what combat could be like.

>>16024466

>a lot of Terraria's mechanics are very simplistic and it can't really change them significantly at this point

It's kind of weird, Starbound had a better system for melee combat than Terraria, on the basic mechanical level, but Starbound's combat ended up being much worse anyway. Starbound lacked mobility progression so you only ever become slightly more mobile in combat than at the base game (double jumps and a short dash), had awful ranged combat with no variety, and despite having a better melee combat system mechanically at its basic level (having shields and a blocking system, a dual wielding system which also allowed for utility stuff like medkits and flashlights in the off hand, secondary attacks, combos instead of repeating the same overhead swing infinitely, and charged attacks on its hammers/axes) it still ended up being the same "hold M1 to spam attacks until the enemy dies, hope knockback keeps it far enough away" combat Terraria has for early game melee, except in Starbound that's the combat for the whole game - spears are awful, secondary attacks tend to be useless, hammers/axes suck and feel unfun to use. Dual wielding is just stacking DPS so it doesn't feel any different than a 2-handed weapon or Terraria except that you hold M1 and M2 instead of just M1, and using the off hand for anything else, like a shield, cuts your damage output in half with minimal benefit, outside of a flashlight. And ranged combat in Starbound just sucks because it uses a sort of mana system, like Terraria's magic, except without any of the variety that comes with Terraria's magic weapons - it's almost all just regular guns, with the occasional rocket/grenade launcher, and without the fun ammo types. Only a randomly assigned elemental effect on some of them, or plain bullets on the majority.

>>16024631

there was a terraria clone named "magical realms" i think that did something similar

Thorium is such a clusterfuck, I'm starting to have second thoughts about this mod.

>>16024331

my nigger internet went down for a bit, should be back up

>>16024613

If Terraria 2 gets an enhanced combat system, its gonna need better fitting bosses to go along with it, too. A big problem with the current state is that the bosses and enemies alike all deal contact damage and the bosses end up being too fast and immune to knockback so pure melee attacks are rendered useless pretty quickly with them. I really hope that Terraria 2's bosses are designed around being blockable or something, even a simple system where you can stun bosses with well-timed blocks or dodge attacks to make opportunities to melee them would go a long way in making that playstyle viable and more engaging.

Admittedly, it would probably look ridiculous blocking massive monsters with a tiny shield so at the least having some kinda dodging system would be nice, but I'm not sure how you would go about balancing bosses so that they're equally challenging for all playstyles.

>>16024795

Experience and Classes is okay I guess, but it doesn't work with custom damage types. I have too many mods to just list in a post but out of the major ones I have Thorium, Spirit, Calamity, Grealm, and Beyond the Forgotten Ages. I do not use Tremor anymore because it just causes too many issues.

BtFA breaks the Old One's Army event and causes enemies other than bosses to only exist if you are right next to the portals.

>>16024844

It would probably end up looking like Starbound combat.

Alternatively it could move closer to a concert system similar to that of that 2d soulsborne mimic, which would be cool but would require fundimentally alteration to the other mechanics in the game in order to compensate for the change in combat.

>>16024873

I never actually played past the first 'boss' on Starbound to be honest, so I'm not sure how much they compare; I don't think Starbound had terrible combat or anything, but the enemies were boring and I hated how they made ranged require MP to use.

Anyway, I just hope they find a way to make melee usable throughout the game so we don't get the nonsense where melee weapons all just turn into ranged ones once you hit hardmode

>>16024992

Defense wise I mean.

>>16024887

As some anons said earlier I think a whole map that is just one big dungeon would be a great idea. Add new weapons and bosses to that, it could be perfect.

>>16024730

The only thing clusterfucky about Thorium is the ridiculous amount of NPCs they added, all of which are early game. It forces you to build a lot more early on than most players would probably want to.

NPCs are already a clusterfuck as it is, and most of them are redundant in some way. One thing that could/should have been done differently was how shopping worked. Instead of every individual NPC having their own item shop, it should have been one or two main Merchants whose inventory grows/changes depending on which NPCs have arrived alive.

>>16025052

My issue is all the new equipment alongside all the old equipment. I feel like I have to have two wikis open at any given time to actually decide between old and new things. They should really just remove the old gear when they're going to add this must shit because it's confusing as fuck.

>>16024992

Replace the helmet with Squire's Great Helm to stack their HP regeneration bonuses.

>>16025052

That's my biggest issue with it, I also almost never use the weapons added since I like the changes Terraria Overhaul makes to vanilla weapons.

I usually just end up making a prison where I hide away the useless NPCs, but its silly that you have to do such a thing

>>16025204

>pic

The factorio part of my brain is ecstatic.

>>16025292

Efficiency has a beauty and style all its own.

>>16025991

Fucks up my frame rate too. Terraria's Linux "port" is a horribly-optimized piece of shit.

Haven't played Terraria since 2016.

Last I checked, every single content patch was just adding more colors and textures to existing furniture and props.

Is there more shit to do? It was always a game that had no appeal once progression was finished, in that there's no replayability like there is in other games.

>>16025204

What is this? Prison Architect but rotated 90 degrees?

>>16026123

>there's no replayability like there is in other games

Are you shitposting or just retarded?

>>16026123

>no replayability like there is in other games

Compared to what? Fallout New Vegas?

>>16026135

What are you replaying? You have everything, you have a flying machine and a super godly chainsawpickaxe, you took over hell, you killed a plant and a golem and a moon lord, you have chests full of gear for the 3 builds in the game (1 of which is permanently shit). What else?

There's nothing to do but making highly intricate buildings you don't actually spend any time in. Terraria is an absolute blast as long as you have some goal you're working towards.

I have something like 700 hours in the game since summer 2012 and I can't go back because I get bored out of my fucking mind.

>>16026155

I should add this is without mods. I've never modded the game, probably have to if I want anything more out of it.

>>16026155

Start completely over from nothing in a year or four, same way replaying most games works.

>>16026155

>I have something like 700 hours in the game

>I get bored

So you ARE retarded. There's no game that's replayable for an infinite amount of time. If you can get 700 hours out of a game that makes it very "replayable".

>You have everything

Of course you have, that's why you call it quits when you're done, and start a new game later. Maybe in hardcore this time, or with self imposed rules such as "no ranged weapons" or "no health upgrades".

>>16026167

Oh, you and I have a significantly different idea of what replayability is. I agree that it has a lot to do on fresh starts, but it brings nothing to the table once all the boxes are checked.

>>16026167

But that's not different. That's just doing the exact same thing a second time. There is literally variation in playstyle because everything is perfectly optimized and the progression between bosses is set almost in stone. Unless you're abusing exploits of glitches it's going to be the same or you'll get your shit wrecked.

>>16026155

>Played for 700 hours

<Yep guys, this game has no replayability

>>16026155

>700 hours of entertainment for 20 bucks

cries like a bitch

>>16026400

>Actually paying $20 for terraria

It's $2.50 more often than not.

>>16026384

This is a well thought out post.

A game with procedural anything but maps is doomed to be a shitshow in one way or another. Replacing actual human creativity with computer randomizer is just fucking chickenshit.

>>16026668

>/v/ doesn't have dice rolls

God dammit I wanted to try it

>>16026668

Rolling for fun.

What are you supposed to do in Expert Hardmode when you haven't beaten a mechanical boss yet. I've got full Titanium sets with all 3 helmets, and some decent weapons like the Beam Sword and a Hel-fire. I feel like the game just isn't tuned right for progression for someone who hasn't done it in normal mode already, but I don't feel like redoing everything again

>The Destroyer

>fight him on long sky bridge with wings and unicorn mount for mobility

>falls off skybridge and he can't get back up to it

>if I go down to fight him, he makes a mince of me

>The Twins

>fight them on long sky bridge

>they don't keep up

>end up despawning because I get too far away from them

>Skeletron Prime

>ends up taking so long because he has so much health that he despawns at daybreak anyways

I really feel like these bosses were designed with the intention of having beaten them once already in Normal, and coming into expert hardmode with post-mechanical boss gear. Which is a shame, because I was able to do all the expert pre-hardmode bosses just fine with pre-hardmode gear I found on that world.

>>16026733

You're gonna want something better than a Beam Sword. Amarok is a bit better, but if you have a Hel-fire make sure you've got a yoyo bag.

I always just make a little cage and rain down shit on top of the Destroyer. Nimbus Rod, Daedalus Stormbow, and Meteor Staff (with mana regeneration potion) all work well. You can also set up some un-bombable ores underneath your cage and rain down dynamite on it.

Once you kill the Destroyer you can make a Megashark, which is pretty ideal for fighting the Twins. I always use gravitation potions for the Twins because I find trying to dodge the cursed flames too difficult otherwise. Not sure how you're outrunning them at this stage unless it's a unicorn mount.

There's a lot of ways to tackle Skeletron Prime but the important part is a nice set of platforms to jump up and down around.

>>16026729

Thanks for this. Now I don't have to walk back and forth as much

>>16026733

If you've got any spiky things, you can rig a trap for the destroyer. He's especially weak to them. Make a big multi-leveled pit below your platform and fill it up with spike balls and such on each level. As the worm passes through the platforms, each spike will hit him once for each body part. This will shred his HP down pretty quickly, even if the damage-per-spike is relatively low.

>>16026678

You goof, you use your post number. For you it's 6/7/8, which is Tree House, Underground Jungle, Flails.

>>16026787

>you use your post number

It's pointless to roll for 3 numbers in a board this "slow", we've been on bio-dome digit for over 40 minutes. 8chan has a dice roll feature which is much better for this but /v/ has it disabled.

>>16026803

That should really be between 0 and 999, because otherwise you completely miss out on the "your choice" option from the first column

>>16026879

That or 100 to 1000.

>>16026879

I thought the point of the RNG was that it chooses for you. Maybe 0 should be "roll again."

>>16026910

Not all randomness has to be completely random. The "player's choice" result only comes up for one of the three things, which is an optional side objective that you don't *HAVE* to complete. Set out with an idea: build a mini Lizahrd temple on the surface, for example. Whether you do or don't doesn't matter, it's optional.

Everything else is mandatory, but the idea of a player's choice for a secondary objective that doesn't matter, well who fucking cares. You're only trying to achieve the common goal in the end anyway. Beat the game as your class with a settlement in the right biome. Which by the way, fucking stupid as hell if your biome is uninhabitable (like trying to live in a Mushroom biome once hardmode hits).

>>16026902

>>16026803

Changed my mind on this. Generate a set of 3 integers, range of 1 to 10. 10 is 0. This way it's as random as it gets.

>>16026668

Rollin

>>16027182

All I want is a mod as wild as Thaumcraft.

>>16027182

I've got a class mod installed, it lets you craft the classes, each one naturally has its own little niche thing. The plus side is that you can equip multiple classes and the bonuses are divided evenly between the classes equipped based on your character's level.

https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/experience-and-classes.53048/

It, at the very least, offers a bit of release to the monotony of equipment used. Ninja, for example, makes throwing weapons quite viable.

>>16027453

That's interesting, but lacks the flexibility of what I would want to make. Pre-defined classes are neat an all, but I'm a big believer in flexibility within these systems, so the player is simply provided with gear, some passives, and a choice of how they want to work with them. I really should just look into how to mod this fucking game.

>>16027556

I agree with you about flexibility.

>tfw no dodge-healer type shenanigans

>>16027182

>ex: melee gives an increasing %damage reduction

These kinds of solutions are basically the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig. They don't deal with the underlying problem, which is that close-quarters combat in Terraria is so dangerous to the point of effectively not being skill-based. You find the same approach often in Euroshmups. Terraria needs serious changes to enemy design and the introduction of more melee-oriented mechanics such as rolls or damage-nullifying guarding in order to address the fundemantel underlying problem. Perhaps it's a game that never should have had melee (at least beyond the equipment several hours after starting) to begin with.

I actually think it's just fine that Terraria not have melee-focused action, the real issue is all the melee-oriented gear introduced after the Wall of Flesh giving the player false pretensions about combat choice.

is there something like Rite of moving Earthfrom the Witchery mod or Shard of Laputa from Botania Mod for Minecraft?

Basically something that allows you to move a large chunk of terrain upwards and make it into an floating island? (not like the ones that generate naturally )

>>16027601

>which is that close-quarters combat in Terraria is so dangerous to the point of effectively not being skill-based

I agree, but the thing is that every attempt to add more depth has either fallen on its face or become mostly unsatisfying. I think it would need enemy reworks, and substantial ones, to fix this.

>Perhaps it's a game that never should have had melee

I can agree with this, definitely. Melee is the least useful weapon type if you remove all the "it's totally melee guys" ranged weapons.

>>16026668

Rollan, why not.

>>16027614

Not in vanilla Terraria.

Actually Daybreak has an interesting idea aswell; if you hit the enemy it will keep taking damage for a short while afterwards. That could compensate for the fact that the enemy may be out of reach for a moment.

>>16024631

So there would be some hexes with 3 or 4 beach/sea biomes?

Could the sea how it is now in the game work in your model?

>>16027765

Yeah, that's basically it. Of course you could have more or less biomes per map, but the important thing is that it's broken into 6 chunks

>>16026668

rollan

>>16026668

lets see where this goes

>>16027748

Now does this mod have other effects than "bonus damage resist, bonus melee damage"?

That mod I linked earlier at least has some special effects of its own such as the assassination thing which causes your first hit in combat to be a forced critical plus some damage multiplier, or the cleric regeneration thing, etc. If you think it's fun, I'll check it out myself.

>>16024331

I'm guessing this shit didn't last long.

>>16027852

It does have abilities that you can toggle on an off at a cost, but so far they do seem to be pretty basic stuff like damage, speed, knockback and the like. Only big problem with the mod is the grind at the start, like I said. Its pretty well polished as far as the UI goes, but I probably would hold off on it cause the early game is such a pain and admittedly, the mod you posted looks more interesting with the way it handles bonuses and class variety. I'm only using it cause its compatible with Thorium to be honest

>>16027650

You know fuck that shit hybrid sound boring as fuck

>>16027748

Melee is pretty good early game, early hardmode, and sometimes underground against non-bosses, especially if you count things like flails and yoyos as "melee" (the game does). It's only later into hardmode that Melee becomes completely useless, but the yoyos still aren't that bad.

>>16028764

If you manage to come across one, Arkhalis is pretty good well into hardmode

>>16028770

Fetid Baghnakhs are great for most of Hardomode as well, especially if you can get them early (crimson mimic, so you could find them before you even fight a boss)

>>16028791

>>16028770

Anyway, the point is that melee isn't bad. Melee is perfectly viable and "competitive" for at least 80% of the game. It's only end-game that balance goes out the window in favor of ranged.

>>16028798

>>16028878

Most of the melee weapons late-game end up relying on projectiles to deal damage though, at least for bosses. The later melee weapons aren't bad but they pretty much end up being pseudo-ranged weapons anyway, and the ones that aren't projectile weapons (like the solar whip thing) have pretty absurd range too.

Don't get me wrong having plain melee weapons that don't change throughout the game would be boring, but some of the melee weapons like the scourge of the corrupter are pretty silly as melee weapons

>>16028878

First, the only reason it does anything at all is because of the ranged/magic effect. That's the cheater solution to the "melee problem". Melee weapons suck? Just turn them into ranged weapons then lol

Beyond that, I'm not sold on it being the highest. It definitely doesn't outperform the Last Prism in boss quick-kills. Whether that's because the DPS is lower or it just takes to long for the pumpkins to start hitting I don't know. Should be really nice underground against multiple enemies though, since they switch targets and travel through walls

>>16028900

That's true, like I just said >>16028903 it's the "cheater solution" to the melee problem.

However, for the first ~80% of the game that isn't a problem. Things like the Arkhalis and Fetid Baghnakhs are exactly the opposite, being insanely short range weapons. Flails on the other hand have more reach but something about the way they work still seems fundamentally melee to me.

Your weapon selection should change as you play the game. Melee early game, ranged late game, with some overlap in the middle seems like a fine balance to me.

>>16028903

>Beyond that, I'm not sold on it being the highest. It definitely doesn't outperform the Last Prism in boss quick-kills.

It does have the highest but you have to build a giant autism machine to ring the max possible DPS out of it.

>>16028947

>ring

Wring.

>>16029035

I want to see some constructions that mix form and function. Surely someone has come up with really awesome looking boss arenas or mob grinders, or maybe even an NPC prisonblock that looks good.

I have no interest in "art with blocks". Function is primary, but if you can dress it up so that it looks good without sacrificing effectiveness that's even better.

>>16026668

I want to see what happens.

>>16026001

>Terraria's Linux "port" is a horribly-optimized piece of shit.

This really fucking gets me; even through Wine, it crashes on start-up about three out of five times. I'm getting really tired of taking twenty minutes just to get to the start menu.

>>16029090

I'm not even talking about running it through Wine. I upgraded my GPU to an RX560 and the game STILL can't maintain a solid 60 fps at all times, and when you add mods into the mix with a billion projectiles at a time it chugs into the 40s and 30s. Tired of these shitty fucking Mono "ports" for Linux because hack developers insist on infecting their game with Microsoft's .NET cancer.

>>16029078

I have a sneaking suspicion this was cheated in.

>>16029341

what mod(s)?

What happened with Calamity anyway?

I heard there was drama surrounding Fabsol and Leviathan?

Can I get some juicy gossips?

>>16029656

It's an old mod from /vm/ that hasn't been updated in forever.

>>16030218

tl;dr: calamity sucks and is full of eceleb pandering faggots and shitty normalfag memes.

>>16030353

Yeah I know but I want more details, the drama, the autism.

Blood in the water, y'know?

>>16030349

It sucks too, because now it crashes all the time. I just wanna purge xenos with my brothers.

>>16030676

I can vaguely imagine someone building this without trying to make it convoluted on purpose

>>16030676

Cowloon Walled City - tier

>>16026384

The sheer incompetence of Starbounds design is frustrating, because theres a kernel of a good idea burried underneath it all, if you try the Frackin Universe mod you can get a glimpse of what the game could have been like if the developers werent soy guzzling retards. Among other things that mod adds a huge amount of new terrain types, many of which are severely hostile to the player and require proper gear just to explore, and theres some fun to be had actually gearing up and getting to explore those places, but thats the limit of it, it devloves into a slog after that, and the Frackin' U developers are massive crafting autists so actually creating the gear you need to explore even the most basic of hostile planets will involve 6 or 7 different crafting stations and 20 different materials so you can expect to sit on you ass building a fucking laboratory for most of the game.

>Since they're obsessed with making everything take up energy

This shit right here killed the game dead, especially the ranged combat. Every gun and bow in the game shares an identical "reload" time making any weapon with burst damage straight up better than any other weapons, since there was no meaningful distinction between them other than one does more damage over time and one does more instantly, either way you'll end up spending the same amount of downtime not doing any damage because youre waiting for your energy to recharge. You feel completely powerless during this downtime because youre sitting there with your thumb up your ass waiting for your energy pool to recharge, and its not like you can just switch to another gun, it shares the same resource pool. In better designed games you either at least have the agency of pressing a button to reload and can thus feel like youre doing something or dont have to worry about that shit at all because the weapons have their own resource pool, theres no reloading, you just have to control your supply. Then you have to factor in that techs and other things also consume energy and the fact that melee weapons across the board do far more damage than ranged, and have no limiting resource that prevent you from using them, and theres just no reason at all to ever use firearms,

Experimenting with different gear would be so much more enjoyable in Terraria if I didn't feel like hardcore-one-life was the only satisfying way to play it.

>>16030353

I used to always use Calamity and Thorium. Putting the drama aside why does it suck now?

>>16026403

Even that can go badly depending on the game. Most of the big genres like FPS, RPG, etc can suffer from RNG maps; it fucks with the atmosphere, and can really fuck with the pacing. The ways to avoid that is to either have an extremely abstract map so the brain doesn't pick up the pattern nearly as easily as a slotted together series of 3D maps, have the player be pulled back far enough such that it isn't an issue like in a 4x, or for the game to be focused on the player altering the map in some way shape or form, like a city builder.

>>16031495

I hate them because you can hardly see shit.

Anyone else build their main base with invasions in mind?

>>16031524

>using doors instead of walls rigged up with actuators

>>16031538

>using anything but hoiks

:^)

>>16031538

They're frankly not as responsive as doors. Neither are gates sadly.

>>16031639

Nice broiled nigger in the cave there.

>>16031566

I still can't believe he actually named those something incredibly stupid

>>16031706

What's funny is, I knew about the glitch a little before I knew about the whole hoik thing, and I just called them boosters. I figured out how to do the left and right ones by accident one time, but the up and down ones are pretty arcane.

>>16031503

I deliberately build my main base away from center-world for the express purpose of avoiding teleporting goblins slaying my NPCs at random.

>>16031964

Sky bases are good for this.

>>16032222

Terracustom + large world enabler or player-made maps are probably your best bet

I haven't played terraria for ages. Specifically, I stopped playing because I got fed up with how it hit the point I felt I had to build arenas for every boss post hard mode; I got to planteria and just gave up, because while I could build a system that used heart statues and campfires and teleporters and so on, it was just not worth the effort.

Plus I liked melee, and holy shit that just got bent over and fucked up the arse with every new difficulty level.

What are good mods? Ideally one that makes melee not utterly shit.

>>16034029

>Plus I liked melee, and holy shit that just got bent over and fucked up the arse with every new difficulty level.

Do you mean actual melee or "melee"?

>>16034029

All I did for Plantera was dig a big circle with some mud blocks in the middle. With a few buffs and clever use of the grappling hook he was no issue. I was using those weird disc things that deal melee damage.

I kind of accepted that melee just fucking dies in hardmode and now I use only ranged weapons. It sucks since I prefer melee but what're you gonna do?

>>16034342

Actual melee. It got very hard in hard mode and several tries with planteria later, I realised that 'melee' weapons like the terraria blade were being shitty ranged weapons.

>>16034029

Making a Plantera arena is still far and away the most obnoxious and tedious part of serious Terraria play for me.

>Hear about calamity mod

>Give it a try

<great sprites, fantastic music, cool weapons

>Sudden dificulty spike in a boss, providence

<What the fuck, the previous bosses weren't a walk through the park but what is this shit

>Go check info about this boss

<Seems they went full hardcore difficulty maymay, and in newer versions you are forced to use a lesser tier of weapons and armors to make the fight more difficult

Fuck that shit and fuck having to defeat the fucking profaned guardians every time i want to try to defeat her

I will probably go download an older version where they didn't go full retarded with the difficulty balance

>>16035325

It's the classic problem with every "2hard4u" mod, the authors care more about pissing people off and making youtube clips of normalfags getting fucked than they do about actual good gameplay.

>>16035422

I don't understand any of the references.

>>16035440

Yes, I'm 100% positive.

>>16035452

I mean "I don't know what any of this Jap shit is."

I would recognize Getsu Fuma if I saw it though.

>>16035464

You must be pretty fucking stupid if you can't even recognize the last one from here >>16035422

>>16035422

>first one

horsefuckers not welcome

First time running Terraria with mods. Are crashes from the main menu a common occurrence or did I fuck something up? Try to load a world: crash to desktop, try the same world again: modloader crash, return to main menu, try it a third time and it works. So far no crashes after the world is loaded.

>>16036566

You could have too many of these.

>>16024730

I've learned the best way to enjoy mega mods for me is to not go out of my way to get new items. Keep the enjoyment to the new enemies and new biomes, but let the gear progression stay like it's vanilla. If I happen to come across a new drop or gather enough materials for a new craft, that's fine. If I don't, that's also fine.

>>16031430

nice..

>>16042634

Which mods?

>>16042837

At the very least:

Chad's Funiture Mod

Throium Mod

Terraria Overhaul

>>16043468

>want to put more general stuff pack together with thorium

<tremor is meh and calamity sucks

to live is to suffer

Are there any fun balanced mods to change shit up together with thorium? overhaul drops my framerate pretty hard

>>16041450

take me I'm ready

My personal favorite mod is the Magic Storage mod.

>>16045631

why is that moon lord window giving you bedroom eyes

>>16013386

Literally all you niggers need to do is wander in one direction collecting chest loot along the way and you'll end up well equipped enough that the surface us safe on day 1.

You will also save a lot of time if you get ironskin potion + good wood equipment + campfire + handy platforms and fight corruption/crimson bosses early l. Even if you die a few times you will quickly get the materials you need for equipment greater than you will get by digging for ores.

>>16013412

>sawmill

>no iron bars

>>16047773

You can find free sawmills in underground houses. Otherwise you only need 3 iron bars for a onetime cost and can craft ironless storage from there on out.

>>16053915

And his dick grew three sizes that day.

>>16053915

UPDATE FUCKING WHEN

>>16053915

Finally, a reason to ever go to the underground desert biome

>>16053915

inb4 this is end-game shit and/or costs a fortune to obtain/craft, making it completely worthless by the time you get it.

>>16055768

They've been teasing 1.3.6 for months now. All I can wonder is when the fuck it will come out, I want to waste an additional 300 hours in this fucking game.

>>16055768

Are they finally going to buff fossil armor or make it easier to obtain?

>>16056012

Who knows? I guess that would depend on whether the rumors >>16023499 hold true or not.

>>16055768

Not that you wouldn't, but it sounds like you'll need to farm the desert before building a hellavator or dividing up your biomes for corruption-breaks.

Sounds like it'll be consumable, otherwise it'd be a pick-axe replacement.

>>16014209

> mfw I’m a build fag

I canmt wait for some of the new cosmetic options, I hope they add new painting stuff

>>16057162

I want then to add a creative mode so people who claim their shit wood and stone builds are good no longer have any excuses

>>16055826

Closer to a year, maybe over

>>16055768

Enjoy getting 0 to 3 per desert chest. When I said "costs a fortune to obtain" I was thinking opportunity cost/effort/time. If you can spend 10 minutes to get 3 bombs that each save you 30 seconds of digging at most, why bother?

All those bitches whining about building materials, and here I am enjoying having to set up shit so my wooden base isn't burned down or blown up.

Think we'll finally get a goddamn desert boss already? Or a use for it in hardmode?

>>16057934

Forbidden Armor is weak as shit and doesn't require venturing underground to get anyway, Unicorn is faster and easier to get than a Basilisk. Desert Spirit Lamp is pretty much the singular reason to care at all about the underground desert in hardmode, and that's only if a hallowed vein didn't spawn on your antlion. Mummy drops are useful but you don't need to go underground.

Adamantite armor with headgear: 32 def with +17% dam/+15% crit magic and -19% mana usage

Titanium armor with headgear: 30 def with +23% dam/+13% cri magic and Shadow Dodge

Spider armor: 20 def with +30% dam minion and +3 minions

Forbidden armor: 26 def with +15% dam magic/+15% dam minion and +2 minion count

Seriously why would anyone waste their adamantite or titanium bars on this piece of shit? It sucks at being a good magic armor and it sucks at being a good minion armor. If anyone really cares about having that bit of extra defense over spider armor they can just wear a melee mask with spider breastplate and greaves for +12% dam minion and +2 minions. All alternatives are far less dangerous than fighting sand elementals.

Wait, leave the spider mask on. If you only swap out the spider breastplate for something else, here's what you get.

Spider with Adamantite breastplate: 28 def with +18% dam minion and +2 minion

Spider Titanium breastplate: 27 def with +16% dam minion and +2 minion

There we have it, combinations that are superior in both defense and damage to Forbidden armor and require less materials and effort to craft. The crummy whirlwind attack is just not worth it.

BEWARE

comfy builds in this thread will make you want to play

>>16058131

That's unfortunately just a vanity garment.

>>16026668

Maybe this will get me back in the game. I do wish there was a way to speed up fishing quest availability, outside of the sundial/hopping worlds.

>>16058170

>just a vanity garment

Put it in your armor slot instead of your vanity slot and jump off a tall place.

>>16018108

>but I like Starbound more.

>chucklefuck

Wasn't there a big controversy a while back? I can't remember what over though.

I want my clown bombs and shit back. Friggin' builderfags

>>16059694

>clown bombs

Don't forget corruptor spit. We really need a super expert mode so we can have proper sieges.

>>16059767

>invasions will always happen where your NPCs are instead of the map center

That already happens though.

>>16059778

No it doesn't, at least not all of them.

>>16059796

>>16059767

>>16059742

That was the sort of madness I loved.

I wished Otherworld wasn't dead.

Crimson needs it's own spread mechanic like the corruptor spit

>>16059860

Some kind of "brutal" extra difficulty to add onto expert would be pretty neat and I'm sure people have tons of great ideas for it but judging by how slow the update releases have been lately it might be too much to ask for. I would kill for a difficulty where enemies can completely wreck your base if left undefended though.

>>16059808

Which ones don't?

>>16059994

Tried Martians and Pirates in a world where my base is at the dungeon, neither invasion appeared at all until I went to the map spawn.

>>16060018

I'm sure that I've fought both of them away from my spawn point.

>>16060018

Wait, do you have any NPC's at your dungeon base?

>>16060018

Don't all invasions happen close to the world's center/original spawn? I'm pretty sure they do.

>>16060053

All of them.

It would be meaningless anyway if you could go to the spawn to avoid getting your base in danger.

They need to stop supporting this game and move on to a sequel or fully updated version or something; the current engine has become way too bloated and coupled with its limitations it is only becoming harder and harder to mod

>>16060062

That's really strange. I know for a fact that I have this one world where the Witch Doctor is way to the right in the jungle, almost to the beach, and the Martians spawn on top of him when I'm away from base. And I've got another world where I moved the Nurse away from base so I could farm martians safely. If she dies they stop spawning at my arena.

>>16060167

>They need to stop supporting this game

No.

>the current engine has become way too bloated

That's part of what this update is about, fixing the engine.

>is only becoming harder and harder to mod

That's not really the dev's problem.

>>16060167

There is always one anon in these threads complaining about bloat, how many mods do you use? I don't hear people talk about this too often

>>16057268

>stairs to simulate shingles

Why the fuck did this never occur to me?

Oh wait, it's because I only figured out you could make stairs with platforms like 2 days ago.

>>16060892

>starbound is more painful to play than terraria

>overhaul mod makes terraria's combat even more fun

how did the fuck up so fucking bad

why is the game so shit

>>16060939

Shallow combat, unrewarding dungeons that consist of maybe 2-3 rooms if you're lucky, no reason to actually dig into a planet, fucking protected objects and dungeons in the base god damn game, and so on. Game was rushed despite having all that kikestarter scam money and being in development for so long, Tiy is a fag and a conartist.

>>16060939

>how did the fuck up so fucking bad

It's probably a simple issue of quantity over quality.

Also this>>16060955

>>16060939

Starbound's combat is fun with mods. Melee is trash, despite some of the special attacks being neat to use.

>more painful to play than terraria

It's about equal IMO; Terraria has a better early game, but Starbound has better mid-game.

>>16061101

what serb?

>>16060970

>mods will fix it

go home todd

Anyone else hope that we'll finally get extra large world sizes in 1.3.6?

>>16057650

How the fuck do you get the angled background tiles like in the 2nd pic's columns?

>>16061283

They're actuated foreground blocks.

>>16060970

>Melee is trash

It's still more fun than ranged, considering every single ranged weapon uses the same energy meter, that you use for movement abilities, as ammo.

>>16061533

next thing you'll say is that you actually bought the game

>>16061533

>Stamina systems are very common in action games.

But they're also usually well thought-out and implemented, and used in a way that makes sense. Starbound's system is just a lazy excuse for chucklefucks to not design and balance an ammo system. It's as badly designed as most of Starbound.

>>16061540

I fucking pre-ordered it, and I learned a very valuable lesson from that experience.

>>16061283

I think what he did it he angled the tile first and then used an actuator and wire to put it in the background.

>>16061540

>Starbound's system is just a lazy excuse for chucklefucks to not design and balance an ammo system.

This is why I said mods are needed make the combat fun. Vanilla is bland and gets old fast.

>>16061550

>I fucking pre-ordered it

OOF!

Would be cool if the edge of the map led to another map.