/v/ - Video Games

I'd be more excited if phones weren't still wide-as-fuck in terms of quality and performance though. I am happy that ARM chipsets are now being built around modern APIS tho'

Maybe mobile wouldn't be so ass if they had a unified platform and was able to install your own OS on it.

>>16011778

PC and console games will always have a market. Their market may shrink significantly, but it'll never completely disappear. I welcome consoles and PC dropping out the mainstream because there's too much cancer up here.

There is no way those videos were recorded using mobile touchscreen controls.

Honestly, if they made phones with real, 3DS style buttons (with two thumbsticks) that could be slid out like early 2000's phones, it would be a different story. Mobile games could actually be good. Maybe Nintendo or dare I say, Valve, should get into the cellphone business.

>>16011817

> I welcome consoles and PC dropping out the mainstream because there's too much cancer up here.

Well said

>>16011832

All you need is an OTG cable

>shitty "AAA" games and devs fuck off to mobile for shekels

>this creates opportunity for newer devs to create and hype better PC games

One can hope, r-right? Who am I kidding

>>16011852

It's happening with Activision anon

Destiny was their way to compete with mobile and and make another Call of Duty by sheer force.

They failed and now their only popular IP is Call of Duty and which is seeing less and less money and Blizzshit which is being cannibalized after tons of failures and which fans have disavowed in masse , Activision will turn into King Games in some years

Never lose hope

>>16011859

Good, Apple and Microsoft need to die

If AAA migrates to mobile that would leave us with a lot of experimental indie stuff and maybe one or two dedicated PC companies, right?

>>16011878

Yeah, I still somehow feel those would still try to pander to mobileshit

>>16011778

>Graphics on tier with 7th Gen consoles

that's the funniest part

As is, mobile is a wall garden market that lives and dies from planned obsolescence. If there was a way to have open source phones with custom OSes on the market then mobile may overtake the PC, as smartphones then will be your personal computer. However the Jew communication industry can't have people carrying their custom phones at risk of piracy. So they lock the market behind wall gardens and hope everything goes to streaming someday. One streaming apps from the cloud becomes a thing than the guys in the phone won't matter as much as the bandwidth you charge to stream those services.

>>16011892

I think it would be mostly a displacement, major releases would be freemium mobile shit.

>>16011878

You mean a lot of extremely boring, derivative indie stuff?

>>16012033

Among other things yeah, BUT that doesn't mean there may not be one or two good things, I think we got backlogs big enough to keep us entertained until something relevant comes.

>>16012029

>major releases would be freemium mobile shit.

That's pretty much what they are nowadays, just with te paywall for higher margins and trick normalniggers into believing like they're getting some value out of these fucking things.

Good.

Just means the market for PC will be less polluted with bullshit.

Mobile already has enough power to run AAA games, it just doesnt get the attention because its more profitable to milk whales in Freemium games, and due to a lack of better controls. XCOM is a good example of an AAA game that runs perfectly on it. I'm sure you could make a lot of AAA stuff in it with proper dev care.

At some point, mobiles will be like the Switch, but with integrated gaming controllers in a manner similar to the Xperia Play (maybe modular, like the Moto Zplay stuff), and will have HDMI out capabilities to play those on a big screen (already possible, like with the Samsung Dex or even regular HDMI out).

My Note 9 can run emulators pretty damn well, even Dolphin. I can only imagine the kind of power we will have with better drivers and better chips / energy consumption 5 years from now. I recall Google and Apple planning some stuff on this front, too. All mobile needs is a better ecosphere to terminantly push consoles aside.

>>16024766

you can't have action controls on mobile without a bluetooth controller, so touchscreen controls have to limit themselves to turn-based.

Yes, there's potential, but game discovery is a huge issue. Also, most people just want to game on mobile for small periods of time, so a complex game with a full story and progression is a hard sell.

>>16024993

>you can't have action controls on mobile without a bluetooth controller, so touchscreen controls have to limit themselves to turn-based.

This is why I think at some point they will make game controller attachments. A lot of companies like Samsung, Asus etc are already making gamepads as accessories, but at some point, I think we will have a sucessor to the Xperia Play that will be a true revolution in mobile gaming. Maybe even from Nintendo now that they are loving that mobile cash, who knows. It could be the next iteration of the 3DS, but now as mobile phone with dedicated game controls (so they can push even further their mobile cashcows like that Fire Emblem shit that I both love and hate).

Sony is not a brand as strong as Nintendo, as far as nostalgia goes. Plus, they came in too early in a time mobile hardware wasnt as strong as it is today, and had shit analogs as well (the rest of the controls were solid). Even if Nintendo doesn't make one, Motorola got pretty close with that gamepad snap attachment. They just missed by not making it possible to use it permanently attached to the phone due to making it too large. They should have made it collapsible, at the cost of slightly more bulk.

I'm confident its a matter of time, though, with the likes of PUBG, Fortnite and I bet real soon Overwatch on mobile.

>>16025085

>dongles and bluetooth adapters are a thing because mobile hardware devs are actually retarded

They all have to follow Apple besides Samsung

Also, and I get this is kind of a niche thing, but with EVERY fucking mobile hardware dev having some retarded smart pen feature.

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>>16025113

Kill yourself blackpillnigger

I'd rather play games with an actual controller than a screen where I have to tap on it. Tapping a screen may work for some games but it definitely doesn't work with all of them.

>>16011778

>Mobile

Let me tell you about mobile shit:

Roguelites a shit. This is every single roguelite mobile game:

You play as a bag of shit tumbling down a steep set of very long stairs. When you run out of shit, you're dead as fuck, and have to start from the top. You have some control over your shit, but ultimately, you just have too little shit to give, and you spill your shit way too easily. So, in reality, you cannot get to the bottom on the first try, no matter how good you are keeping your shit in - because you start the game with too molested and loose-mouthed shitbag by design.

And quess how this horrendous game design is fixed? Wait for it…

Not actually fixing it at all. Instead, devs use all of their time and effort to cover it up, so that this shit design is harder to notice. The player has to be skinner boxed so hard that it never even realizes what is happening. The roguelite design is successful only if the players brain is overwhelmed by random dopamine spikes so completely, that it's struggling to maintain basic logical thinking.

This coverup is where you get all the usual gameplay mechanics from: Upgrades that make you spill a little less shit on every step, gradually increasing shit holding capacity, maybe you can even scoop up some of the old spilled shit, and of course, if you fail enough times, the steps are secretly a little less steep next time. And don't forget that everything needs to be as randomized as possible, so you can always blame luck for losing your shit, and not the allpowerful shit heap that is in the core of roguelite game shitdesign.

Finally, after grinding a huge shitload of upgrades, you get to the absolute bottom, not by getting better at the game, but by spilling shit like a moron, and in exchange, being given more and more training wheels - Like some kind of gargantually obese shitfilled retard that needs to be dragged across the finish line by multiple industrial power winches, all while drooling and holding a confused half-smile, teary eyes fixed on the cheering virtual audience. At this point the brain has given in to the random dopamine torture and is firing every last fucking neuron to make sure this happens again, no matter the amount of shit this sad fucker needs to go through in the future.

But it's not all shit, because in the end, when you stumble down the last stair with your cornucopia of different training wheels, you are greeted with a text box that is totally ironically in comic sans, and it says:

"Support us on shitstarter, shitbook, shitgogo, shittch, shittube and shitreon. Links to our new unfinished games donation pages have already been sent to all of your friends social media accounts (allowed by EULA). Don't forget, MAKING THIS FUCKING TERRIBLE MALFORMATY OF A GAME WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT. LOL."

"Oh, and good job beating the game! You stumbled down to the lowest point possible, without spilling all your shit on the way! You are now the greatest shitspilling shitbag in the bottom of the shitstained stairs. Remember to give us more money in the future, you absolutely hopeless fucking tool."

TL;DR: Mobile = shit.

If you are more interested in mobile game design, just replace "shit" with "cash" and "roguelite" with "mobile" - just try it, the description is even more accurate that way.

>>16025130

Digital entertainment and tech in general have been poisoned by normalniggers anon.

They will never be cool again.

>>16025130

You know that UI's got me thinking. They got ReactOS working decently on actual hardware yet? I heard there's the weird stipulation you have to install your shit through DVD but apparently it all works?

>>16011778

There's going to be a point when every company is trying to gain whales but can't is gonna cause a crash for this section of the industry.

I'm wouldn't be surprised if we see DARE like school programs except without the unintentional increased drug usage afterwards advocating to kids/teens not to be suckered in to F2P mobile garbage.

The idea of having 95% of your userbase not spend a dime while a few pay a few bucks and then one with a (unknown) gambling addiction mindset starts spending $1000's of bucks compensating for the unpaying rest cannot last forever. All it's going to do is create more former whales speaking out against F2P games while also raising the next generation of kids to not play them.

>>16025154

>There's going to be a point when every company is trying to gain whales but can't is gonna cause a crash for this section of the industry.

You can already see this with Volvos Artifact, Diablo Immortal and CnC Rivals.

These companies are desperate to get the mobile audience and are actively competing with it, it's also part of the reason why you see all the SJW shit as they try to pander to womyn who play mobileshit.

>>16011804

>I'd be more excited if phones weren't still wide-as-fuck in terms of quality and performance though

I think you meant if Android wasn't such a faggy increasingly bloated piece of shit that requires

2 GIGABYTES OF RAM MINIMUM TO EVEN WORK

and the 6 gorillion issues with phones

<aging battery causing sudden reboots due to voltage drops (see aging iPhone batteries causing reboots and the subsequent gimping debacle)

<high temps, throttling and poor thermal design (phone not designed for continuous operation at 90-100% resource use)

<fragmentation and lack of drivers (btw Treble is still useless because Android's creeping minimum system requirements)

<lack of standard firmware platform making it impossible to install the OS of your choice (PCs have BIOS and UEFI)

<etc.

>>16011863

>Apple and Microsoft need to die

One can only hope.

>>16025166

Mobile phones really are fucked up hardware-wise. I use a newer Blackberry that runs Android, it's a KeyOne :^) but it seems pretty stable.

>>16025174

You should see how bloated Chinkshit and European ones are.

Rooting them to remove the bloat is literally the only way to use them without going insane.

>Watch the first 2 minutes

>Half the "Modern Warfare Remastered" sections are from Modern Warfare 2

Is this a joke?

I mean, it must be, because mobile gaming is shit, but is the guy who made this video fucking serious with this shit?

>>16025181

>is the guy who made this video fucking serious with this shit?

You have no idea how autistic the mobile players on Jewtube are.

You know the autism that went on Call of Duty and Halo during their heyday on Xbawks Live?

That's these faggots but 10 times more autistic.

>the future of games is on devices not primarily designed for games

Absolutely brain-dead post. Mobile games are shit because they're inevitably a cash-grab attempt. No developer makes a mobile game because they want to make a good game, win GOTY awards, etc. They only do it to cash in on the huge market share of casuals who happen to have phones. Phones will never be the primary market for games because they just aren't designed to play games, and console/PC games will always be superior.

>>16025205

Read the full OP dumbshit

>>16025192

>You know the autism that went on Call of Duty and Halo during their heyday on Xbawks Live?

>That's these faggots but 10 times more autistic.

Sounds fucking horrifying.

The only FPS I've ever played on mobile was one of those Nova Halo ripoffs on my OnePlus One, and it was shit.

I don't get how people could be so autistic about these games.

At least shit like Honkai Impact actually has some enjoyable gameplay for a mobile game beyond the first 5 minutes.

>>16024993

>Phones will never be the primary market for games

You sure? Phones have a big advantage over PCs and consoles, which is adoption rates. Everyone has a smartphone nowadays, and with processing power getting significant leaps all the time (though it stagnated lately), you can have some pretty decent quality games on it. Biggest thing holding it back is the control method, but that is not a problem on all games (anything turn based or RPGs, for example). That, however, can be worked around.

>>16011778

>mobile is the future

Said the literal boomer who doesn't even play video games. OP, you sound like my dad.

>>16025212

>I don't get how people could be so autistic about these games.

You know when you enjoyed flash games and even defended them on the internet?

Imagine that but instead of being a retarded 12 year old you're a retarded mid 20s-early 30s retarded normalfaggot who never played Flash games in his life and thinks portability > All

>>16025226

>and thinks portability > All

You'd think they'd at least latch on to the Switch since it's actually designed to accommodate playing video games without having to cover 40% of the screen with your dirty thumbs.

>>16025228

>You'd think they'd at least latch on to the Switch

Not as sociably acceptable or as portable/comfortable

It's also not a separate purchase, you will own a phone due to peer pressure, no decision there unlike a console that can't take calls.

>>16025210

My bad, I have been drinking a bit.

I'll mostly let my post stand though; I think games will continue to be split between the primary market (console/PC) and the phone market with very little overlap. The mobile industry will continue to grow, but it won't have a huge impact on real games.

>>16025238

>but it won't have a huge impact on real games.

It already has been a huge impact, are you fucking blind?

>>16025238

>but it won't have a huge impact on real games.

Depends on your definition of "real games."

It's definitely had an impact on many larger games in the console/PC industry, nevermind the state of most F2P games nowadays.

I guess what really matters is whether or not you actually give a fuck about F2P games or AAA games and consider them on par with actual, non-shit games.

>>16025241

Has it really though? Sure, the mobile industry has gotten big, but it seems to me it remains almost entirely separate from the core game market. Even in the AAA sphere, the biggest games of last year (Red Dead 2, God of War, Spider-Man, etc.) have no apparent mobage influence, and they hardly feature (if at all) in muh culture events like E3 and the Game Awards. There's still an overall sense that they're separate spheres.

>>16025245

F2P shit like Fortnite, sure (and maybe yearly trash like SPORTS 2019 and CoD), but I don't see much impact on serious games, even AAA stuff. I'm not particularly worried about the games I actually want to play being infected or pushed out by the shovelware.

>>16025140

It's much better than using joysticks on console, try dead trigger, sadly no FPS game uses gyro to aim like the shitch does with that squid girl game.

>>16025275

>(Red Dead 2, God of War, Spider-Man, etc.) have no apparent mobage influence

And they still manage to be pure trash and pander to fags and women for the mobile audience.

Regardless, mobileshit influence in monetization and game design is in most AAA games and the focus of most big companies.

Sony sells consoles, not fucking games

>>16025299

>the games are shit

Okay, but that's not exactly the same argument. I don't think you can blame phone games for the dumbing down of games in general; that trend has been rolling since before smartphones even existed.

>mobileshit influence in monetization and game design is in most AAA games

Where? The biggest AAA games of 2018 were: Red Dead 2, God of War, Spider-Man, Smash Ultimate, Monster Hunter World, and of course the usual FIFA and CoD. Honestly nothing comes to mind in any of those games as being influenced by mobile cancer. The only game that was obviously a mobile shit port was Pokemon Let's Go, but it clearly only exists to try to introduce mobile players to the upcoming real game.

>>16025275

Red Dead Online definitely has some mobage influence, with its horribly grindy mission and monetary structure.

>>16011778

Didn't the mobile bubble pop years ago?

>>16025385

Not yet no

I would be legit happy if all AAAs gone full mobile, the consoles would crash, this stupid gamer geek culture would move all there, and leave the people that actually give a damn alone without their meddling and politics and shit taste.

>>16011778

Black Ops 4 and Rainbow Six Siege are mobile games anyway with their microtransactions.

>>16025403

It's nearly reaching that point

>>16025190

>that pic

Fuck I've been laughing for half a minute.

>>16025213

You're pretty much saying what I did. Mobile only needs more predominance of controllers and better shops for apps, since discovery is a bitch. Although, it remains to be seen whether people want long games on their mobile devices. Most seem content with quick bouts when traveling.

>>16025494

>Whales will run out of money and die quickly.

perhaps… or perhaps you'll have bullshit like Scam Citizen making over 200 million off of them without even putting out a actual game.

And who cares if the whales die out quickly if the game is a cheap piece of Chinese mobile shit that took pennies to make, the companies still walk away with massive profits even if the whale leave the game for the next hot normalfag shit after a couple of months

>>16011817

>>16011810

>>16011804

>>16011838

>mobile shills calling PC games cancer

lol, that's a new one

>>16026105

Tumblr may finally die soon, But the SJW culture it has left behind will continue to grow. It has shown no signs of stopping.

I am so fucking sick of colored hair, trannies and this "genderfluid" people keep identifying as. I thought genderfluid was cum or that pussyjuice women get when they menstruate.

>>16011778

Honestly, there’s so much good pre-2007 vidya that I don’t even think I can play them all in my life time so I don’t really care. Hopefully this all backfires and kills the companies that killed our hobby, but if it doesn’t oh well. I’ve taken the retro pill and I’m happy and content.

I don't care about mobile shit, but being able to play tranzit on the go is gonna be dope. I remember how it blew my mind to play waw zombies on the go, the black ops variant was broken and way too fucking easy, tho(and the first game to use the "cod points" microtransaction bs)

>>16026343

world at war zombies was the only reasonable phone game.

I wish it was on android.

>>16025494

>The future will be only what we, Gamers, allow it to be. Everything else will be purged by us.

#gamersrevolt

>>16026491

China hasn't restricted consoles for half a fucking decade now

Pubgmobile runs better than the Xbox version