9c9cd3 No.16007929
I don't understand why people hate on this game so much. Compared to the first one, I understand that the philosophy element isn't quite there, but the gameplay is solid and enjoyable.
3530e5 No.16007934
>2007 newfags are all storycucks
Wow what a shock.
f7363b No.16007937
>>16007929
>Compared to the first one, I understand that the philosophy element isn't quite there, but the gameplay is solid and enjoyable.
Only faggots enjoyed the first game.
e92e05 No.16007938
>>16007934
Fuck you carlos
9c9cd3 No.16007941
>>16007937
Do you prefer the second over the first?
140f23 No.16007948
>>16007937
>Only faggots enjoyed the first game.
I enjoyed it, no homo.
>>16007929
I've played the third and first, would you rate the second better than Inifinite? I've got it, but never really got around to playing it. What improvements has it got over the first Bioshock?
9c9cd3 No.16007954
>>16007948
Overall, the gameplay is similar to the first. Still takes place in Rapture, but with a new villain. You play as a prototype Big Daddy too, which is a neat idea. No more switching back and forth between weapons and plasmids, as you have them both out and ready.
9c9cd3 No.16007963
>>16007948
I would say the skyhook system from infinite is a little more fun as a means of transportation though.
54244f No.16007965
>>16007948
>better than infinite
Not much of a benchmark, there.
The story isn't good, but you can have fun with the game mechanics if you play on hard mode and turn off vita chambers.
I did a melee build and had a lot of fun with it.
9c9cd3 No.16007975
>>16007965
The drill was super fun to use. More than the wrench was
9c9cd3 No.16008019
>>16007975
Rivet gun was cool too
3caf5c No.16008021
I hate both the first and second
They're mediocre games
3530e5 No.16008028
>>16008021
But dude trite political commentary from a clueless Jewish trust fund kid in my game about shooting people addicted to magic slug piss LMAO.
f7363b No.16008081
>>16007941
I didn't play the 2nd game. I'm just saying that Bioshock 1 was bad. The only thing good about it is the setting (not the story, the level, or the environments but specifically the idea of Rapture as a place).
a46e45 No.16008100
Everyone who shits on BS2 has guaranteed never played it and believed the reddit meme that it was a low effort cash in on "big daddies are epic!!" when in reality BS2 was a much better game than the original bar the beeg tweest that has been spoiled for everyone already anyways. Minerva's Den had a fantastic story which is a damn shame since clearly no one played it but me.
62dfe0 No.16008619
>>16008100
Finally somebody gets it right, BS2 is infinitely better than Infinite. While I liked Minerva's Den, I thought the process of being made into a big daddy was irreversible. I guess Adam really is magic by another name.
701815 No.16008633
>>16007948
The gameplay has been improved significantly and the story choices affect the ending far more than just good/bad. You have to perform wave defense fights when the Little Sister is gathering Adam, which sounds like a chore, but I found it fun since I could really plan out traps and methods of attack. Story is never going to top the twist of 1, so it's more about complimenting it and fixing the parts that 1 was weak in. End fight is just a ton of mooks, but Bioshock really doesn't work for big final boss fights. If you liked 1, at least give it a chance.
c75bf4 No.16008698
I liked the both Bioshock 1+2. 2 had better gameplay but there was heavy asset reuse and didn't have the initial awe of exposure to the setting that the fist had. Infinite was just bad, terrible gameplay and an inconsistent setting, e.g. everybody who's white is a racist and sexist in a super patriachal society except whoops, we've gotta have diversity so make half of the enemy guards women.
df2954 No.16008758
>>16008028
>>16007929
The storyline of Infinite was so bad that I liked 1 and 2.
1a890c No.16008767
bioshock 1 set up the big daddies as scary as fuck slow lumbering brutes, and you dont feel like that in bioshock 2
instead you feel like some strange cross between a mad wizard and a guerrilla fighter and it is in fact pretty fun even if I was expecting the former
54dc16 No.16008772
I liked the part where I got to carry the little girls on my shoulder.
113ea5 No.16008789
>>16008633
wave defense works in the style of bioshock because the games are all about preparation. You have proximity mines, traps, turrets, and the game expects you to use all of them to get through the situations. That's the thing that makes Bioshock 2 the best Shock game. SS2 forces you down a route and evades all criticism by suggesting it's about choice when in reality there's a handful of skills you need to progress and a number of them are so useful you'd be stupid to ignore them - Bioshock and 2 get over this pretense and 2 especially realized it's much better to make something that's all around fun, encourage players to engage in everything, and feel more rewarded because you engaged in everything.
Plus the combat isn't a piss easy joke.
15a7a6 No.16008836
The story was too bogged down with the "MUH FEELINGS" of women and niggers and the endings were all shit
Besides that it was a great game
6f522d No.16008841
What got me into playing this game was seeing some rule 34 of a big daddy with a little sister
766d78 No.16008851
>>16008843
>game is critical of collectivism
>leftist
d51e3d No.16008898
>>16008772
concurred
Furthermore I think the game would be much improved if you spent a lot more time with a little sister on your back and perhaps if it was the same little sister the whole game
most of the little sister dialog goes to waste because you only have one for such a small portion of the game
a46e45 No.16008918
>>16008619
> I thought the process of being made into a big daddy was irreversible.
That's true for the Protectors after the alpha series. Alpha Series were just roided, brainwashed men in suits. They started actually grafting the subjects into the suits afterwards, presumably to avoid having to deal with extraneous human detail– eg, hygiene, hair, etc. So the suit is effectively their exoskeleton.
fdaf20 No.16008987
>>16007929
First and foremost, it reuses Rapture. The place was full of leaks and the society in it had degenerated into drugged up freaks and endless ruins. There's no good reason for it to have kept going another year, much less ten, yet here it is that much later. Secondly is, as you said, not quite so deep; instead of genderswapped Ayn Rand talking endlessly about the great chain we have little miss Susan B Anthony prattling on about bullshit despite having nothing to do with Rapture's creation and also no noticeable rebuilding having been done. Third, the three jerks you can choose to murder or mercy barely do anything to help you after the choice, making the matter a fleeting one at best for flavor or ending. Fourth, you always have to fight the big sister regardless of helping or harvesting the little sisters; if she was reluctant to attack or kept her distance after you help them it'd make more sense, but she goes apeshit regardless and only at the end has any measure of context for her existence. The last point i can think of after having not played it for a decade is the audiologs don't sound as charmingly old-timey as they should or like the first game's were; the only ones i can recall offhand are a few dumb bitches spouting insults about their husband and the beehive queen mincing endlessly about how great she is and how shit everyone else is by comparison.
In short, it feels like a quick cash-in to a popular title, kinda like Dark Souls 2 or the later Katamari games.
df2954 No.16009021
>>16008843
You're thinking of Bioshock Infinite, Bioshock 1 criticized that crowd
8a0cdc No.16009042
>>16007934
Storycucks and relaxationfags are the same people.
>hurr durr i just play games to relax make it easy pls
These niggers are ruining gaming because they refuse to admit that they've grown apart from games, but they keep spending thousands of dollars on garbage. In fact, throw in one other descriptor for this piece of shit person: the 5 minute man/hoarder.
He is typically the same as the storycuck and relaxation fag in that he's destructive for gaming. He'll have a steam library full of games with a few minutes of play on each of them. He's a mindless purchaser, "collecting" title after title like it is in itself an achievement. These fags ruing gaming because they send false price signals to developers. If a bunch of people are buying these games and not playing them, the developer doesn't know the difference so they end up believing they're doing something right and keep making garbage, whereas in a normal market without the five minute bitch, these titles would fail so the developers would stop churning out shit.
The solution is simple: Stop. Playing. Games. Just admit that gaming was a phase of your life, it's over, and move on instead of hanging on to recapture your youth.
6ba529 No.16009059
It definitely improved on the game play of the original and I enjoyed the setting. Philosophically, the stories of Bioshock 1 & 2 is just
>Society has degenerated by mass child molestation
>You must seize the means of molestation aka save the children
>By Any Means Necessary, Kill All These Bloody Molestahs!
This is assuming you go the Good ending.
0e0f91 No.16009079
>>16009059
What the fuck are you even going on about?
6ba529 No.16009082
>>16009079
I guess you could say I simply… watered down the plot
What's the matter? Too deep for you?
60390f No.16009099
>>16008841
How else did you think they collected ADAM?
9b281a No.16009107
>>16008081
Setting makes for a good game even a typical fps, in fact the setting/story is what sets fps' apart. It was a decent game I think, but doomed to get more typical after the novelty wears off. Just like every other fps, except King's Field and FEAR1 and HL.
aca19e No.16009108
>>16009059
<Society has degenerated by mass child molestation
I'm pretty sure the story was
>society has degenerated because pure libertarianism will inevitably consume itself
91356a No.16009118
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16009042
You call them niggers but you sound more like one yourself.
d5cc83 No.16009126
>>16009108
How? They just choose not to consent to society's downfall and they're fine
6ba529 No.16009133
>>16009108
The society in reality was based on child molestation. The molester (the antagonists of the stories) abused his position of power. He conjured spooks to obfuscate the populace his real goal, capture of children to create ADAM. Rapture needed
ADAM and ADAM needed children for hosts. Libertarianism is present in the society of course, but behind the scenes you can tell their society went to shit once the kidnapping of children for creation of ADAM was allowed, which is symbolically child molestation.
2a7ba9 No.16009169
on the contrary Lambs philosophy is even more interesting then Ryans if you spend 5 fucking minutes trying to understand what shes saying
this game was an improvement over first in every way, even levels and locations are vastly improved upon
a46e45 No.16010053
>>16009169
> Lamb's philosophy is interesting
< "Let's upload all our brains into my daughter's super powered body, wiping her consciousness in the process, because gommunism :DDD"
9a2730 No.16010648
Story was complete shit, the little sister defence missions were godawful and it lacked in atmosphere. That said, a few things were vast improvements compared to 1, mainly the hacking, the gun upgrades and the ability to use both weapons and Plasmids. The enemies however were still complete bullet sponges though. I unironically enjoyed Infinite more because it was an enjoyable arena shooter even if the story was a clusterfuck.
2a7ba9 No.16010663
>>16010648
infinite is linear corridor shooter
9a2730 No.16010666
>>16010663
>huge arenas where you can ride the rails in anyway you wish and can dynamically make cover and vantage points appear
>linear
Nigger what?
758f3b No.16010681
When I first played Bioshock 2 I hated it and found it boring. Perhaps I should give it another go. I might see something I didn't the first time around.
2a7ba9 No.16010697
>>16010666
>>"""""""""""""""""""""""''arenas""""""""""""""""""'""
every room in Bioshock and Bioshock 2 is an arena by that standard
9de7f0 No.16010730
>>16010681
ss2 and bioshock are kike made shit, fuck off.
9565e5 No.16010794
>>16010053
Given Rapture's history, why not try? A completely brainwashed junkie army that is constantly receiving orders/being monitored by a telepath would be a serious threat and the perfect army. Lamb not only realizes the power behind the hypnotic suggestions ADAM can induce, but is also able to pull enough of Rapture together to send expeditions to the coast to pick up little girls that can act as future little sisters.
Considering that, she's by far the most dangerous person to ever enter Rapture and allowing her to live is the dumbest decision anyone (except her daughter) could make. Ryan and Fontaine always thought in terms of profit, just in bringing products to market. Lamb wanted to turn Rapture into a war machine for an offense on the surface, whatever that would look like.
On that topic it'd be really interesting to see a Bioshock 3 set in 1979, set against a backdrop of a drugged up US (and one unaware of AIDS) Lamb could put drugs into coastal water supplies then send in splicers to serve as missionaries/cultists that could spread her ideology until the formal invasion occurs, ala Xcom. It'd be exactly what Ken Levine originally wanted Bioshock to be (PI having to save some Senator's daughter from a crazy cult, modifying himself with their drugs for the purpose) in the directors' commentary he did with Dorito Pope.
9565e5 No.16010801
>>16010730
all videogames, computers, and the internet is kike made deal with it or only use couriers and carrier pigeons to communicate
9565e5 No.16010914
>>16010794
Come to think of it BA2's bad ending more or less turns Bioshock into an anime tier series where a crazy teenage girl controls an army of supersoliders, other less crazy teenage girls who feed off prepubescent girls and full auto security bots. She'd easily be able to terrorize the world until Rapture is nuked (which would be trivial to do, since Rapture lacks any sort of aerial defenses hence why Jack could fly in before the first game).
It's an interesting setup for a third game at least. Too bad Infinite blew it.
fbb424 No.16010933
>>16010801
>kike made
>implying kikes work
Hang yourself!
They might have infested a lot of things but they certainly aren't almighty.
ef196a No.16010934
>>16009169
>Lambs philosophy is even more interesting then Ryans
They're both shit. I wish I could have played as a fascists running around the lolberg utopia, gunning down libertarians and communists and saving little girls from their Jewish predations.
9565e5 No.16010952
>>16010933
The vast, vast, vast majority of all 3D rendering engines are coded by Israelis. I'm not joking, pick a few out and read the credits to them it's usually Israelis. And nobody brought up "almighty" besides yourself.
fbb424 No.16010988
ef196a No.16010995
fbb424 No.16010997
>>16010952
Or Godot?
The ones you refer to are probably like Unity.
They are like sand on the beach but they suck.
fbb424 No.16011009
>>16010995
CryEngine is made in Germany. Only the owner is a fucking Turkroach.
452076 No.16011012
Are they planning to remake this shit or something? This is the second thread today having to do with this game.
fbb424 No.16011022
>>16010952
Hey, you're supposed to confirm that jews don't work and can't make good 3d rendering engines.
Now list some engines that are coded by kikes.
9565e5 No.16011034
>>16010988
>>16010997
Renderware, newfags. It's why there's a tribute to a Jew when Burnout: Revenge starts. Any game using Renderware is Jewish:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RenderWare_games
This is just a short list, since Wikipedia is a volunteer effort and Renderware was hugely popular in the early 00s. Most AA/AAA NA PS2 games use it, because Rockstar used it when they made the original GTA trilogy.
https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/RenderWare
https://www.grandtheftwiki.com/RenderWare
https://gtaforums.com/topic/829914-grand-theft-auto-renderware-edition/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burnout_Revenge
9565e5 No.16011065
>>16011034
Further proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iez8_wT8XN4
http://www.rabinezra.info/
And since EA bought Renderware through their purchase of Critereon, it's safe to say that every EA game made after 2010 has some bit of Renderware within it somewhere.
fbb424 No.16011077
>>16011034
I wouldn't call The Settlers jewish.
Typical murican with the typical extreme states.
Either they're /ourguy/s or they're the kikes.
It's an engine. I don't see how the engine has influence on the game beyond it's graphics, limitations and bugs.
I have only played the settlers and GTA of the games listed but I don't see how Persona fits into your image either.
3530e5 No.16011081
>>16011077
Why are you even responding to this obvious /intl/ dipshit?
9565e5 No.16011091
>>16011077
I don't know if you read my post or what, but I said here >>16010801 was that jews have their fingers all over the internet, computers, and videogames in general. I personally don't care.
fbb424 No.16011095
>>16011081
Because I'm a dipshit.
ad2262 No.16017754
>>16010794
So it would be Bioshock mixed with Condemned 2?
I'd play the shit outta that
fae225 No.16017791
>>16010914
>Too bad Infinite blew it.
Anon, let's leave Infinite as a fever dream someone had and forget about. After all, the game's story is such bullshit that, once everything is said and done, everything that happened (And, the events of the first two Bioshocks) is both canon and non-canon at the same time thereby making the game's events completely mute and unimportant.
3530e5 No.16018008
>>16017791
Don't forget the writer flat out admitted he went with the alternate universe concept specifically because he doesn't understand it.
6101f9 No.16018026
>>16007929
the story isn't as epic but the gameplay got more epic, sure it's no system shock but it's a good meme game
9d40ec No.16018057
f7363b No.16018091
>>16009107
>Setting makes for a good game even a typical fps, in fact the setting/story is what sets fps' apart.
>a typical fps
I just wanted a typical FPS but that game innovated ways of being shit.
1002d6 No.16018100
>>16007929
Bioshock Infinite retroactively made Bioshock 2 look like Tennyson in comparison. Also, it's on GoG now so I bought both of the remastered games for 5 bucks.
72e4bd No.16018105
68ab93 No.16018127
>>16007937
This. Baby's second FPS after cod or Halo.
Imagine a game with a great setting but shit gameplay that gets progressively worse each release. Infinite looked decent in the trailers so I pirated it and it was railroaded shit as well.
a28a8c No.16018165
>>16018127
>Babys FPS
That would be doom or quake
113ea5 No.16018169
>>16018127
>giant glowing press button to awesome looked decent
HL2 fans have such shit taste
a8d6b0 No.16018194
>>16008772
High tier opinion. Bioshock 2 is the best dad simulator in an age of games about being a dad. It enforces the idea of protecting your little girl through the game mechanics, and not just the story line. It also never felt like an escort mission. My paternal instincts felt so alive when I smacked spicers away from my baby.
72e4bd No.16018213
>>16018165
watch out man you might upset the 25 year old boomers
a28a8c No.16018219
>>16018213
its not like they even play doom or quake and even if they do its some shitty sourceport
76d035 No.16018221
infinite > 2 > 1
1 is massively overrated shit
a28a8c No.16018227
>>16018221
infinite is only good for elizabeth
72e4bd No.16018235
>>16018221
Infinite is legit trash, in every way, story and gameplay perspective. Heres a non-pozzed account of the shocks
SS2>BS2:Minervas Den>BS2>SS1>BS1>Ken Levines Rectum>A mile of shit>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bioshock 2Deep4U Infinite
53f072 No.16018239
>>16018165
but what is my second fps?
49fd8e No.16018244
>>16018194
>best dad simulator
>no fishing minigame
>no having to work part time jobs to keep daughterfu alive
>escort missions
Excuse me best Dad simulator coming through with a literal dad.
9402c5 No.16018280
>>16007929
It hits a lot of checkboxes for me.
>silent protagonist who slowly relearns of his forgotten identity while trying to save his adopted daughter from communist hellbitch
>small daughterus that you must protecc and love affectionately, including literally saving them from slug cancer by headpatting them
>simple and effective weapon system, net improvement over the first with dual wielding your guns and plasmids
>that one melee build where you got drill and plasmids only rushing at enemies until they die to death
>questions raised about free will, societal goods, radical ideology, punishment and forgiveness, all done without being inordinately philosophical and in your face about it
>the design and atmosphere of rapture hooks you right in
It's pretty good.
7925ad No.16018286
I want to be captured and tenderly loved by a Big Sister.
0a29a5 No.16018321
>>16018165
>my first FPS
Joke's on you, faggot - my first FPS was Wolfenstein 3D.
a28a8c No.16018335
>>16018321
>he didnt play wolfstone3D
1610c9 No.16018760
Anybody who listened to certain game journo outlets, one being machnima and Adam I believe is his name, stating Bioshock 2 was a cash grab or milking the IP.
e3b9d4 No.16018773
Because it's not System Shock.
e3b9d4 No.16018776
>>16018773
huh, so that's what that image is. I just picked the first one in my pictures folder related to SS
925ecc No.16018828
I genuinely do not remember anything about bioshock 2.
83f056 No.16018831
all bioshock games are jewish propaganda. if you play that crap you deserve to play for it
b2e22e No.16018874
The second is actually a masterpiece of the genre.
Dont know what you are talking about.
The bad one is the third one.
b2e22e No.16018879
>>16007948
Second one is the best.
c02f38 No.16018889
1 is alright but a lot of mechanics only serve to make the game a slog. 2 fixed that.
3 threw everything out the window and sucked ass as a result.
a435d0 No.16020078
>>16018889
can you implement the mechanical fixes of Bioshock 2 into one like using plasmids alongside guns?
3530e5 No.16020109
>>16020078
Probably but it really wouldn't matter when the game comes to a screeching halt every 10 seconds whenever the Snow White knockoff has something to say.
4b8d1f No.16020173
>>16018889
3 story was worthless because writer admitted he puts in he doesn't understand but likes smart sounding ideas.
So you have time travel shit that's literally below rick and morty (a nihilistic cartoon written by a pedophile jew) in breaking its own rules, because killing booker once still has infinite™ universes where he is still alive as either booker or cumsock, it's mechanically bad with ugly weapon design.
3530e5 No.16020194
>>16020159
>>16020185
Hey Ken.
4b8d1f No.16020277
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16020185
the fuck are you talking about, retard?
d5cc83 No.16020293
9e599f No.16020297
>>16018221
They're all overrated, but Infinite is the most so. Its combat and story is far worse than the others. Infinite is just fucking wasted potential.
3530e5 No.16020316
>>16020297
The entire game is literally a one to one knockoff of pic related, no joke. To think people were at launch trying to convince themselves it would be some groundbreaking game that would never end because of an infinite time loop or some shit but all it ended up being was CoD with a thick coat of "dude steampunk LMAO" paint like it came straight out of tumblr.
a46e45 No.16020493
>>16018244
You are the actual father of Eleanor in Bioshock 2 though. Nier is a great fucking game
9f4dc6 No.16020609
Genuinely great gameplay. Lots of fun using the function and number keys on my keyboard to rapidly switch between plasmids and weapons. Terrible story, though. Didn't like the strawman libertarianism that remains from the first game. The forced conclusion to the story was also a disappointment. Would have handled things differently.
f7363b No.16020711
>>16007937
Considering that people don't get where I'm coming from, I'll post a review that I made in some normalfag website last year.
<The epitome of the worst of modern game design.
<Main Character: Why is the main character one of those Half-Life style silent protagonists? You hear him talk in the opening scene so why is he suddenly mute? With games like Portal 2, you feel like there isn't anything add to the conversation but Bioshock feel like the main character is a literal mute and everyone else is ignoring his numerous hand gestures.
<Twist: The twist doesn't make sense and it is super pretentious and hypocritical. This wasn't some kind of commentary. Remember this was from the guys that coined the term Ludonarrative dissonance.
<The Choice: You're going make one choice and stick to it. The game has garner a lot of praise due to this "moral dilemma" except the game does so much to get you pick the good option. Besides the whole moral issue, the game does a poor job incentivizing the evil choice. Adam isn't really that necessary and you have no idea how much Adam you will get from the process. You only know that harvesting gets more Adam than rescuing. You don't even have a vague idea like "You'll only half the Adam.". Also, the first person that you meet that wasn't trying to kill you tells you not to do the evil thing, gives you a non-evil alternative, and killed the last person who tried to do that evil thing. There is also the whole bias to the status quo. People should stop patting themselves in the back for not killing fictional little girls.
<Gameplay: What I hate about the game the most is how obsessed it is in controlling the player's experience. You can't horde anything. There is tons of ammo lying around but your character will only pick up a hand full. This is to make sure bad players can always find ammo and good players won't be rewarded for being stingy with ammo. This also applies to money which has a rather small wallet cap for a game about Objectivism. There is also the quest markers, vita-chambers, lack of a "Shut up, Atlas!" button, and how the game "teaches" you how to use fire and electric magic. Seriously if you need to be taught using electricity on enemies standing on water hurts them, then you probably shouldn't be playing video games.
I would also add that there is no option to destroy your damaged turret so that you can control a new one. You can't shoot it while it is under your control thus you must remove it from your control then kill it.
5b1ad8 No.16020733
>>16007929
Gameplay was an overall improvement, graphics were nicely improved and actually made the game feel like a horror title instead of a sci-fi thriller.
I think the stories are about equal for 1 and 2, but I will say that I especially like 2's story because it was probably the last triple-A game that had the balls to portray a communist as a ruthless megalomaniac (i.e. true to reality). My absolute favorite audio log from BS2 has to be "The Voice of the Self":
<Awareness of self is no miracle, Eleanor… it is a trick of the gene, an endless inner refrain, asking: "What's in it for me?" To serve the world, we must grow deaf to the self. Are you ready? Now, stop listening to my voice. Stop listening. Stop. Difficult, isn't it? Human verbal cues are defensive coloration – camouflage. Play this recording until you no longer hear the words. Then you may observe the people for who they are.
Immediately after this log stopped playing I fell completely in love with BS2's narrative, and, dare I say it, with Lamb's character, too. Whether the writers knew it or not, (and I like to think they did), they managed to capture the purest distillation, the most central tenet, of the communist ideology in that one 45 second recording.
>"Oh, you silly thing, you're not a sovereign individual with desires and goals and life experiences of your own; oh, no no no, dearie, that's just YOUR GENES LYING TO YOU."
>"Language? Human communication? Oh, that's JUST A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT! We need to tear down this oppressive system of words SO THAT YOU CAN TRULY BE FREE!!!"
"Voice of the Self" is communism laid utterly bare. The pathological need to tear down established norms, traditions and systems, not because those systems aren't working; hell, they could have worked for literally centuries: cultural and ethnic homogeneity, the sovereignty of the nation-state, the nuclear family, gender roles, the basic fucking reality of sexual dimorphism…yeah, those all served humanity just fine for MILLENNIA, but they just need to go because IT'S THE CURRENT FUCKING YEAR, what could you possibly have against PROGRESS!? Why would you cling to these social constructs that have sustained your bloodline since time immemorial, DON'T YOU KNOW YOUR GENES ARE LYING TO YOU!?!?!?!?
>TL;DR
BS2's narrative and the character of Sophia Lamb are the best appraisals of communism I think I've ever seen in a piece of mainstream media. I'm actually kind of surprised it was released unmolested.
3530e5 No.16020760
>>16020733
I guaranfuckingtee you they intended for her to be one of those loved villain type of deals where they want everyone to like her and see her eye to eye but they make her a villain just in case it doesn't pan out like a bunch of bitches.
e1f2ef No.16020761
The World Ends With You does the same plot twist better than Infinite.
5b1ad8 No.16020781
>>16020760
Yes, I suppose that tactic does carry precedent…
3530e5 No.16020802
>>16020781
It's essentially the case every time the villain is a woman, especially if it was made any time in the last decade. Now whether they do it because it's what they actually believe or because they pressured into it I can't say for certain but either way it reeks of insecurity.
fae225 No.16020808
>>16020760
>they want everyone to like her and see her eye to eye
Why? What does it add to the game? Despite the opinion of some Anons on here, I actually disliked the first Bioshock because the entire game just came across as angry.
3530e5 No.16020824
>>16020808
The death of church has caused people to experience preaching withdrawals.
11a1d4 No.16020919
>>16020824
Aren't there enough liberals already preaching diversity or some shit? If anything it's an overabundance of preaching.
ee0f6d No.16020931
>>16009042
> Stop. Playing. Games.
why are you even here?
3530e5 No.16020943
>>16020919
That's the thing about hollow virtues: they never provide fulfillment. It's like the snack food of spirituality.
ee0f6d No.16020963
>>16008987
>story is bad in a video game
wow did you actually try playing it though?
0d991f No.16021147
I regret not aiming for the neutral ending, it had so much more impact than anything the rest of the series had to offer.
https://youtu.be/LKxqjqP2BT4
b6ef17 No.16021989
>break consensus on biosuck 2 and 3
>banned for wrongthink
And you tell me this isn't reddit.
b6ef17 No.16021995
>>16020733
Without the story, Bioshock is nothing: hence why B2 is not worth playing. They're absolutely standard FPS experiences with a moody skybox and an interesting story to push you further.
If you worship the little details that differentiate one FPS from another, like inventory and skills while 99% of the gameplay is identical, you have still to outgrow the 'shooting is fun' phase.
ebac80 No.16022032
hate the game all you want, the multiplayer was really fun. obviously, it was going to die out quick, but it felt like something that should have been in the original to begin with, everything just worked exactly as Imagined they would online, and it was a blast for those few months the game was really active. One of the things I miss were the audio logs and the announcers trying to hype the players up for their factions before the game, wish more online shooters did that
ebac80 No.16022055
>>16022032
>Everything worked exactly as I imagined it would in an online setting
Also, playing as a big daddy in single just didn't translate well into the game. I don't remember playing too much, but I played on the hard difficulty, and splicers with pistols and SMGs fucked my armored ass up, while it took forever to take them out with my supposedly all powerful rivet gun, that ended up being a reskinned pistol. Playing as a boss enemy, devs should have structured the game around that fact, not reskin everything to make it big daddy-esque, when in reality you might as well have been playing the same guy from the first game again, for all the difference it made
Also, I remember reading in the previews how if you worked against the big sister, or did things she didn't like(I assume harvesting little sisters, ect), she would attack you randomly. Did that still make the cut, or was she reduce to a few random scripted encounters?
fdaf20 No.16022620
>>16020963
Yeah, i beat it once; may have been a decade ago, though. All i recall of Lamb is 'oh look its an irate commie womens lib twat trying to pretend like she has anything to do with rapture'. Maybe i missed all the hidden audiologs about her long standing history of actually improving the place with trade, rebuilding, and cleaning out all the drugged-up murders before it fell apart again but i feel fairly confident she just moved in and claimed command without adding anything to the decaying aquatic metropolis. Hell, now that Infinite came and went, i think an alternate-rapture with her there at the beginning would have done better than her sneaking in after it all went to hell, not that i think anyone even considered the bullshit in BI at the time they were pushing the B2 turd out. Unless you mean 'lel who needs story when you have gunzzzz', in which case go fuck yourself and also i suppose try telling people that Borderlands is better than Fallout New Vegas for all the gun variety it has.
c953b1 No.16023474
>>16022055
Big Sisters attack you after you saved/harvested an X number of Little Sisters (I think it was 3 but I may be wrong).
Which makes the encounters a bit easy because you can set up everything right before taking the Little Sister to the tube and doing one of either actions.
fae225 No.16023552
>>16023474
>Big Sisters attack you after you saved/harvested an X number of Little Sisters (I think it was 3 but I may be wrong).
They show up after you remove all of the Little Sisters in the levels. They don't like how you're seizing the means of production. :^)
ee0f6d No.16025332
>>16022620
>Unless you mean 'lel who needs story when you have gunzzzz', in which case go fuck yourself
yeah, you don't need a good story if you have good gunplay. It's not perfect but it certainly feels better than bioshock 1, which felt very clunky.
>also i suppose try telling people that Borderlands is better than Fallout New Vegas for all the gun variety it has.
wtf are you even talking about? This isn't about gun variety it is about how fun the game is. Fallout New Vegas is better than borderlands because borderlands is fucking CoD tier garbage shooting with wacky guns and cringe writing.
cf7b08 No.16025387
I remembered really enjoying this game when I first played it years ago on console, so I yo ho hoed it and tried both one and two again on the pc
Fuck was it bad
Somehow everything just went to shit and I don't get it. All the quality of life improvements were designed for console, and 1 ended up getting the better PC port simply because I could select the gun and ammo I wanted when I wanted it from a menu. 2 forces you to scroll through everything manually or memorize the correct button. The enemies felt stale, the big daddy fights were tedious instead of tense, and I just ended up facetanking everything while smashing it or shooting it, even on the highest difficulty, which was pointless because you take more damage than Jack did when he got the fucking big daddy suit. The story was basically a fan fiction of 1 but with pseudo-religious commies, and overall it just felt like a fucking waste of time, even Minerva's Den which was supposed to be a "best of" from the devs with all the unused ideas, and in the end you're still just a scrounging nigger instead of a hulking underwater death machine. Big Sister fights were a fucking mistake.
If they were going to make this game fun, they should have dug into Lamb more and really hyped up the fact that this was an insane cult that was planning on fucking up the surface, as well as upping the overall scale of the game. Playing as a big daddy should have meant that lesser splicers essentially exist for you to crush into paste while real threats would come from traps and coordination they'd set, as well as other big daddies, and eventually high-end splicers like the Brutes and Houdinis. Fights for Little Sisters should have ruined entire areas of the fucking game, and you'd be encouraged to do the whole gay moral thing by either demolishing the areas and letting the sea in, or showing restraint on your one-daddy rampage by not kicking everyone's shit in. Realistically you should have also had YOUR little sister who could be upgraded independently from you, and her actions ultimately shape her as you ravage the dying city and escape because fuck you Rapture. Ryan Amusements was a shit level, and so was Persephone. Honestly it's one of the worst executions of a series of fantastic concepts.
TL;DR It's shit but could have been not shit.
I want to defeat a Big Sister in combat and then make her take my plasmid-enhanced Big Daddy Dick
Pic unrelated
ac06b6 No.16033317
>>16022032
FIGHT OR FALL, WE CAN'T STOP IT NOW!
a62ecf No.16033328
>>16022620
>caring about stories in games
Bitch-made.
5fd675 No.16033356
why hasn't Ken Levine made a game since Infinite, though?
67839d No.16033374
>>16025387
>pic unrelated
Luna Kindred a cute.
2ae55f No.16035672
I actually liked the concept of playing as a big daddy, some of the underwater sections were visually cool, too bad they never really did anything with them. The story itself is forced and retconned in, and the levels and gameplay have been slightly more streamlined than system shock and the first one. I didn't hate it, but I can understand why others did.
>>16022032
>Get on the multiplayer servers a few years ago
>All the servers are dead, with the exception of a few organized groups that sometimes get together
>Average wait time is 2-3 hours, so do other things while I wait
>Playing with Serbian friend
>We finally get a server with 2 other guys
>Playing with this one Chinese dude who doesn't say anything
>Never seems to die whatsoever
>Friend becomes big daddy
>Shoots multiple mines around Chinese dude as he enters room
>Each mine blows up at once, and he doesn't die
>He's cheating in this almost decade old game, with a small dedicated multiplayer community
I genuinely wondered what kind of pathetic faggot you'd have to be to pull this type of shit.
3ff153 No.16035823
>philosophy
>greed is bad
Yeah, Bioshock is known for its in-depth and rousing philosophy. I quit 2 because fighting the respawning mobs just got too fucking tedious on hard.
925ecc No.16035968
>>16033356
He's a hack and his team carried him every time
Most of his team ditched him MID infinite production because his direction was turbo-kiked and they couldn't have any artistic freedom. making the boobs smaller was only the tip of the iceberg
He has his own studio now but its an empty shell with nobody important or noteworthy. He probably thought he could dish out one more game and carry it with his game along for extra cash but decided to call it quits while he made profit instead of revealing how shit he truly is.
I'm not making this up. Look around articles of people ditching mid-development of infinite
1ecdd0 No.16038898
>>16035968
Unsurprising. I remember reading how he gloated about discarding an entire game's worth of development, undoubtedly because it didn't fit his gay ass fanfiction desires.
a28a8c No.16038910
i'd rather play SWAT 5 than biocock jew, might even replay system shock
b47415 No.16040120
SOMA is Bioshock 1 and 2 done right.
fae225 No.16040258
>>16038898
>how he gloated about discarding an entire game's worth of development
12 game's worth, actually.
ebac80 No.16051007
>>16040258
wew, just how unfinished is infinite?
728dad No.16061525
>>16009118
It's a metaphor numb nuts.
6785ab No.16066502
>playing any of the judenshock games and enjoying the kike brainwash
learn 2 code
2894d6 No.16066783
>>16009042
Hows about you Stop. Breathing. Faggot.