29ee21 No.15995966
>finally get around to playing Ico
>suddenly realize every art house indie dev and quite a few AAA devs have tried desperately to copy the formula and failed
Why do they like it so much? Doesn’t it embody everything they’d normally hate?
3e180d No.15995969
Indies are filled with sjw and they pretty much hate everything, be more specific.
29ee21 No.15995973
>>15995969
>male character protecting cute, feminine girl
>having to hold her hand to lead her through the game
>evil mother
>challenging platforming and combat(though that’s mostly due to age)
It’s weird that they hold it on such a pedestal.
64bc1f No.15995984
>>15995973
I don't know any indie game like this at all
5174b5 No.15995987
>>15995966
It's because the gameplay is simple and straightforward. In Ico it was done well, it plays like it was supposed to: an untrained, flailing boy desperately keeping shadows away from a girl. You don't have any major combos or timing to learn. The fact that it never got too dull or annoying is because it was extensively playtested and tweaked until it played smoothly. In shitty indie games (and many shitty AAA games) playtesting isn't done at all so they end up aping the aesthetics without any sense behind it.
a1937e No.15995998
I wish there would be more games with handholding mechanics.
Also no hipsters or SJWs would even know how to play it, because there are no tutorials or screen prompts.
bc11af No.15996006
>>15995998
>I wish there would be more games with handholding mechanics.
But anon, isn't that too lewd?
d61df5 No.15996016
>>15995966
>suddenly realize every art house indie dev and quite a few AAA devs have tried desperately to copy the formula and failed
eh! there are more games were most of the time you are hand holding your waifu?
9ae2ed No.15996027
How sad our times became, that an art form 40 years old, practiced by a bunch of unimaginative, greedy, scumfucking soyboys is praised to limits unheard of while some legitimate creators, grand and small, are thrown under the bus for the pettiest of reasons. Post modernism at its finest.
Fuck this gay earth, when do we start killin em all
3e180d No.15996040
>>15996016
>hand holding
you are like a child, watch this
bc0c1b No.15996049
>>15996006
You know it. I just have this so I can show it to the lewdness authorities as something that goes on here.
a1937e No.15996060
>>15996006
>>15996016
And do you know that after finishing the game, you can play it again with second player controlling the Yorda?
I bought a spare controller for my PS2 that will probably never be used
29ee21 No.15996065
>>15995984
>>15996016
I meant more the style and gameplay
86e224 No.15996076
at the time it was very different and unique.
the fact that things after made it seem less original doesnt make it any worse. it just means you weren't there, and had to be there to "get" it.
dd3638 No.15996084
File: 059e379dae7a517⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 3.04 MB, 1036x1200, 259:300, i have no hands and i mus….webm)
>>15996016
no and there can't be any more just like ICO
4b7aaf No.15996162
>>15995969
It has gameplay.
a95b14 No.15996193
>>15996084
I wish more games had a soundtrack like ICO and Shadow of the Colossus. Not necessarily the same instruments, but they always had that rare type of music that kept the same theme but changed how it was played constantly. The fact that it's almost always the same theme in SotC was always amazing to me.
7be709 No.15996283
>>15995966
They like boring art games, so stuff like ICO and SotC is perfect for them.
569cf2 No.15996298
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Everyone thinks (retro) games are easy. Everyone can be indie dev and make game.
Here is the secret: ICO HAD A BUDGET. It had real artists. It had Japs sleeping under their desks to make their dream game.
232256 No.15996321
>>15996193
Try Wonderboy IV. It does about the same thing with song from past games too, all mixed together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JBaLV-kIvA&list=PL-vD6rIjXrcIfq-egHDAwI5rTfnKtgFqu
8480cf No.15996349
>>15995966
I have nothing to add because video games and all forms of pleasure have left my life since my dad died, but I did find a “continuation” image of sorts for that third one, and I found both to represent nice things.
a95b14 No.15996400
>>15996349
You know the point of ICO, Shadow of the Colossus and The Last Guardian, anon? Persevering no matter how bad it gets. Even if there could be a better or worse outcome, the only way to know is to keep going and remember what made you start your journey. To be honest, I have thoughts of suicide every few months, but the things that keep me going are why I enjoy the things I enjoy, and the possibility that I can find such joy again. I enjoy videogames so much because I would play Kirby games on the SNES with my grandma. She taught me how to read with Super Mario All-Stars, and once I could read books on my own, she got us an N64 to play Banjo-Kazooie with her. She had to get me through the underwater parts though because of the sharks. This is going to sound pretentious, but I doubt your father would want you to not enjoy life. You can be sad or angry or frustrated, and you have every right to be, but not enjoying life to some degree is just a waste.
7be709 No.15996412
>>15996349
Stop being a pussy.
61fc01 No.15996417
>>15996084
>>15996298
Thanks for reposting these songs, they're always pleasant on the ears.
29ee21 No.15996431
>>15996076
Oh yeah, I’m not saying it’s a bad game. It’s just funny how every artsy indie dev who tries so hard to be unique basically just rips the whole thing off but don’t get that they are missing the point of how unique and imaginative it is by ripping it off.
0fd334 No.15996467
>>15995966
The thing with both Ico and SOTC is that while they are experimental or "artisy" they still try to be games and it shows. All the games that try to copy them fail because Ico and SOTC were very well designed, tested and were never not trying to be games.
877d74 No.15996595
>>15996400
>He went downstairs to the basement and clutched his sons old baseball glove, rocking back and forth, just saying "papas here, buddy, papas here."
I used to worry that I was a psychopath. A few years ago, I would have felt nothing. Now I have to worry that my sobbing sounds too much like laughter because I can't stop myself from crying and I realize that I feel for him when I read that.
99aced No.15996618
The curious thing about Ico is that it feels like there's this huge castle with obscure purposes but you only see a sliver of it. In both Ico and SoTC you feel pretty alone in a big, dead-silent place. SoTC was an amazing game. Ico less so, but you'd play it anyway for the lore (if you can get any from it).
74bd35 No.15996653
>>15996349
Just have sex with your grandmother and make a new dad
ad8b46 No.15996673
>>15996349
When did your dad die?
a0f4ab No.15997475
>>15996666
Whatever Satan.
d61df5 No.15997489
>>15996084
>>15996065
why do you do this to me, anon?
8480cf No.15997521
>>15996673
August. I've absorbed myself in work since then, so it's not all meaningless.
0fd334 No.15997632
29ee21 No.15997681
So I’m on my second playthrough to get Yorda’s dialogue and I’m curious, is there any better way to deal with the flying enemies? That fight leading up to the final one was annoying as hell as I was just jump shotting them or waiting for them to sneak up on me.
the ending was surprisingly nice for how depressing these older Japanese vidyas tend to go.
>>15997489
Gomen.
99aced No.15997690
>>15997681
The ending to SoTC is sad as fuck (to me).
29ee21 No.15997702
849ef2 No.15997708
>>15996666
>>15996040
>hugs are so lewd they make satan blush
5aed62 No.15997725
>>15997708
Does that mean that hugs are the lewdness of god?
3a6746 No.15997729
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Does anyone happen to have a webm of Revived Power? Even when I was young I had loved this song. I can not say that I know music, but this one just feels so grand and adventurous. It encapsulates so well a feeling of greatness and significance.
6a6c0b No.15997747
>>15997729
get jdownloader 2
3a6746 No.15997755
904322 No.15997813
>>15996400
God damn, I wasn't planning on drinking tonight; I hope that father has made peace with his loss.
0fd334 No.15997819
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The remix of the OST is also good.
3104aa No.15997826
I think they more take inspiration from it cause they're too stubborn to admit that Team Ico is famous for Shadow of the Colossus, a game that balanced that shit and good gameplay rather than the game not too many people actually remember or liked as much and think that Ico is why they're successful.
ad8b46 No.15997845
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15995966
The disconnection from reality and the pure simplicity of the plot guides a player into self reflection, so it ends up being very personal. This applies to the trilogy as a whole. The indie devs that understand this principle end up failing because they want universal appeal and are too ambiguous by creating sexless, raceless protagonists without any story or motivation, and they end up with something utterly unrelatable.
697a8b No.15997913
>>15995966
I personally love the game. It's immensely comfy imo. I know that Anita and McIntosh hate it for being patriarchal about a male protecting a beautiful, weak, and submissive girl. However, their hatred of Ico games (Ico, SotC, Last Guardian) is a plus for a fan like me.
But honestly, the only things I hated about Ico were:
>the boy's lanky animations
This was obviously an early PS2 game and it shows. The way he climbs up seems mechanical and unnatural at times.
>lame final boss
It's incredibly easy, predictable, and boring. The final room where you permanently kill off all the shadows posed more of a challenge.
>no watermelons
Call me a nigger, but I wanted my watermelon ending. It's available in some versions but not all. And I only complain about its exclusion in some editions because it truly is the perfect way to end the story. Without it, the story somehow lacks closure imo.
29ee21 No.15998065
>>15997913
Is it in the ps3 version with SotC?
Might try to get it on this play through. Also, it’s surprising how fun it can be just blasting through the game on a second play through.
6662c3 No.15998988
>>15996653
If you have sex with your grandma and you get a daughter with her, is she still you dad?
9ddc05 No.15999001
06455a No.15999021
>>15997913
>The final room where you permanently kill off all the shadows posed more of a challenge.
But they don't even actually attack you, you just chase them around tediously. At least the final boss was actually a fight.
7be709 No.15999036
>>15998988
No she's your mom, dummy.
e1a836 No.15999038
>>15999036
She would be your aunt/daughter.
39395d No.15999045
>>15996400
>none is ever worse than a father losing his son
No shit. A woman would always try to make it about them. They are soulless monsters, every single one of them.
7be709 No.15999076
>>15999057
That's what I'm talkin about.
99aced No.15999118
>>15999057
Went looking for r34 to anger anons but it turns out 90% of the stuff out there is non-lewd. My black heart is beating again.
95ed0c No.15999137
>>15996016
>>15995969
If ICO were an indie game, it would be about you jazzhanding a trans mulatto lesbian paraplegic in a motorized wheelchair to lead them away from her conservative father who says incorrect pronouns.
d61df5 No.15999142
>>15997752
>242+171
so you download the video and audio individually?
so you need to add them both in a webm togheter with another program?
>>15997913
>but I wanted my watermelon ending
nani?
99aced No.15999147
>>15999137
The goal is to get her to the abortion clinic that doubles as sex-reassignment surgery center.
d61df5 No.15999152
>>15999118
>third pic
anon, those kind of pics are not allowed here, so go back to what ever shithole you come from.
99aced No.15999162
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>>15999152
you asked for it.
99aced No.15999177
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>>15999169
What's this? A nice family gathering, eh? Oh my. An some girl on girl intimacy. Boy oh boy.
99aced No.15999181
People make the weirdest things. This is hours of work, mind you.
29ee21 No.15999193
>>15999185
You forgot one of the most important ones
4225ed No.15999218
>>15999142
Depends. If you want special formats, you will most likely encounter a majority of the options are audio or video only. The last few options will be both together, with varying qualities. You can simply download the video at the highest quality, but of course, you need to find a way to change the quality.
3e180d No.15999227
>>15996666
>>15997708
Make me.
6f0298 No.15999234
3df8d2 No.15999399
>>15999142
Two endings, one where yorda sends you away on a boat and another where you wake up on a beach and have to find a watermelon to share with yorda, who didn't turn into a shadow in this ending.
a1937e No.15999418
>>15999175
compared to good games or CY+X trash?
341912 No.15999618
>>15995966
>Doesn’t it embody everything they’d normally hate?
They don't realize that the hero going around saving a helpless girl is extremely problematic according to their retarded ideology.
Instead they're blinked by nostalgia because they played it when they were kids, when they weren't brainwashed and could actually enjoy things still.
341912 No.15999621
>>15999618
>blinked
*blinded
0fd334 No.15999650
>>15999175
It's still better then half the games that came out the year it did.
9ddc05 No.15999690
>>15999650
Wow, so it's at least 5/10, you say?
29ee21 No.16001010
>>15997819
Damn that’s real nice
1c9ba5 No.16001034
6a6c0b No.16001045
>>15999690
it's a true 10/10 tbh
0fd334 No.16001057
>>15999690
I'd say 7/10 but that's only because it didn't shove a far left agenda down my throat.
>>16001010
It's a great remix.
29ee21 No.16005213
Was the PS4 remake of SotC any good?
99aced No.16005870
>>16005213
If only they had added some of the cut areas. Instead they sprinkled some collectibles that unlock a sword.
29ee21 No.16008902
>>16005870
I suppose so long as it’s a decent visual upgrade of the original that doesn’t kill the atmosphere I’ll be happy enough with it. Playing the ps2 (well, ps3) version again at the moment. It always surprises me how well it’s aged and how fun it still manages to be.
0d7fa9 No.16008917
>>16005213
Yes, it was excellent.
99aced No.16008923
>>16008902
People complained about the horse having a mind of its own as if that was a bad thing. I loved the animations, even when wander would randomly trip in the middle of a fight. It really cemented the idea that he was way over his head. Gotta dust the old ps3 and give it a new replay.
99aced No.16008924
I forgot to ask: I'm not going to buy a ps4 just for the last guardian, so can anyone tell me what lore there is in the game?
bf192a No.16008968
>>15996400
>Endure. In Enduring, Grow Strong.
91ad50 No.16008970
>>15995966
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus were some of the first AAA games to rely heavily on visual language, art direction and music to tell a story and evoke feelings using a rather minimalist design. Simple story, well realized and well presented that explored themes of relationship using its mechanics. While not the first games to do any of that, they certainly were the most cohesive and notorious especially because of high production values, which was unheard of back then for that type of game. They had a clear vision and distinct style to them (but you don't see Ueda's name plastered all over like hackjima does with his games). Above all they were videogames first, you can skip 99% of cutscenes to experience the fucking game unlike games like nuGOW which are so full of themselves making you endure every fucking cutscene and shit in the name of art.
My only complain about those 2 games is that they pretty much started the whole videogames are art bs, so much so even Roger Ebert even admitted SoTC to be the most cited example of videogames as art.
>Why do they like it so much? Doesn’t it embody everything they’d normally hate?
Because they're hypocrites and know for a fact nobody wants to play a game filled with SJW leftist propaganda, so they use the template with pretensions of being artistic and deep.
173120 No.16008982
>>15997819
I don’t know if it’s just me, but there’s something Christmasy about Ico’s ending theme.
963de5 No.16013698
>>15996060
Not in original amerifat version, it was rushed and unfinished.
963de5 No.16013705
>>15999399
>Two endings, one where yorda sends you away on a boat and another where you wake up on a beach and have to find a watermelon to share with yorda, who didn't turn into a shadow in this ending.
Wrong, she always turns into a shadow after absorbing horny power from sacrifices (but not Queen's essence since Ico murders her before a transfer could happen). In both endings she sends you out in a boat before castle crumbles and in both you find Yorda washed ashore and in both endings she wakes up. The non-watermelon ending only has one shot more, showing them eating watermelons together, that's all. Also you can only get it on new game plus, it's just a bonus.
a1937e No.16023821
>>16013698
well, I live in PAL region
4a7b3c No.16024694
It certainly is a pretentious low-quality-gameplay turd just like the garbage indies normally shit out.
64fb57 No.16024786
>>15995966
ico is liked because it has great architectural design. Most of the game is just moving around these giant abandoned castles solving simple block puzzles, this sounds boring but because the buildings are made so well it isn't. It is the best example of 'architecture as character' in any game i've played
35e586 No.16024848
>>15995966
Its called the "current year syndrome". Games look way better than 20 years ago, but the the soul is missing. Ironically a game with soul in it's name was the last of it's breed to show how it's done.
That windmill scene in Ico", do you remember the bgmusic + sound? It's still amazing. Wind force rising as you go up the fans. Seriously play the game. It's on ps2, ps3 and (I hope) ps4.
play it, and you will see why its one of the classics.
Game is called Ico, and is sometimes bundled with Shadow of Colossus.