/v/ - Video Games

Now that this was cancelled for the Vita I could give less fucks about it, as depressing as that conclusion is, except my concern for Kamitani being censored

Fuck you Sony, i hope every executive, board of directors, and everyone who enabled this cancer including the grunt-tier SJWs dies a horrifically brutal and painful death

Also

>linking Twinfinite

>when they were one the cancers to attack Kamitani and Dragon's Crown during that whole controversy

Only archive

>it's another mish mash of clips from non gameplay segments

>unless the gameplay is just picking conversation topics

>>15974671

This is fucking weird.

There is so much potential for all sorts of fun combat when they've got giant mechs and a ruined city (or a city in the process of being ruined) in the process, along with so many characters and they aren't showing anything

Maybe they haven't even finalized the combat system or something.

I remember that one second of gameplay they showed in the E3 trailer a few years ago, and it looked either like some shmup/bullet hell or RTS or something along those lines, but it was impossible to tell

This is really fucking weird. I love vanillaware and can tolerate a lot of shit but this is starting to get annoying.

I'm just imagining it'll be an ARPG with lots of focus on SotC-like combat and I assume that thing they showed years ago was just a minigame since I can't really draw many other conclusions from these giant mech scenes that were in the trailer

>>15974719

I really hate this fucking timeline.

I wish this would be one of the few times Atlus breaks their anti-multiplat stance and ports it to the Switch or PC (preferably with a physical copy with an artbook in either case) so it can at least escape this cancerous censorship, or at least have a better chance of escaping the censorship than it would on Soyny right now.

>Unfortunately, 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim doesn’t yet have a release date, but the Prologue is coming for PS4 on March 14, allowing players to try out the first three hours of the title. Since it won’t be distributed for free, the end of the video also shows the four different packages that include it, two of which are bundled with dedicated goodies, and two with Odin Sphere Leifthrasir and Dragon’s Crown Pro.

Admittedly I'm not watching the video here, and the archive images aren't entirely functional, but are they pulling a Ground Zeroes/Kingdom Hearts 2.8 with it? Because I'd think a demo ought to be free and not paid content.

I'm glad it's still alive even if we saw no gameplay. It's Vanillaware so I'm confident it'll be at least worthwhile.

>paid demo

>can't transfer save data from demo to full version

>Vita is fucking dead

Is Vanillaware in trouble? How much will Sony censor it?

>>15974762

>are they pulling a Ground Zeroes/Kingdom Hearts 2.8 with it?

Unfortunately yes.

>Because I'd think a demo ought to be free and not paid content

Agreed, but either vanillaware is need of funds or soyny is taking examples from Konami.

>>15974785

You just know that making them bend the knee will be a priority for Sony, after the shitstorm Dragon's Crown caused western media back in the day.

>>15974644

I've never heard of them until last week when I found out the former EiC of Dualshockers moved there. He's fairly anti-censorship and is there news editor now. I've been using it for a few days now and have found nothing crappy. Maybe they've changed?

>>15974727

Well we knew that wasn't going to happen with stuff that was already in development. Even ideafactory who have promised to find a way to make their games uncensored in the future are still putting out PS4 exclusives. It just is not cost effective to cancel development on a game so far in development or severely delay it for a port. I bet even if stuff is not cut though we will get an enhanced port for Switch along the lines of the Vita port for Muramasa. I would like PC but this is Atlus and I don't think they have a single modern PC release. Sega is teasing a catherine port but Atlus might not have anything to do with it.

>>15974622

JUST SHOW ME HOW IT PLAYS ALREADY

>>15974639

>Now that this was cancelled for the Vita I could give less fucks about it

Man, it really sucks that it was cancelled for Vita. Vita has been my most played system for the past 4 years. It's such a comfortable way to play games.

>>15974711

>it looked either like some shmup/bullet hell or RTS

I hope that's not a minigame and that the game really is an RTS. I love strategy games. I think >>15974751 looks really cool.

>>15974807

>Sega is teasing a catherine port but Atlus might not have anything to do with it.

I've a feeling that this is 100% SEGA's decision.

Whatever, at the end of the day it's Vanillaware and I'll probably end up buying it regardless. Even if it turns out to be a shit game I'm probably getting it to complete my Vanillaware collection.

>>15974891

Probably still a good idea to buy the Catherine port. If nothing else it will encourage Sega to make ports down the line after initial releases.

>>15974926

>Probably still a good idea to buy the Catherine "pc" port If nothing else it will encourage Sega to make ports down the line after initial releases.

fixed

>>15974952

Oh yeah I forgot that PS4 port. Which reminds me it is looking like this PC port is of the PS3 version and won't have all the features from Full Body.

>>15974807

>I've never heard of them until last week

Well don't trust them, and I would suggest not using them. just because one (potentially) not-cancerous person joined them means they'll stop being cancer. Rather its more likely that person will be assimilated into their fold. SJW outlets don't just "change" on their own. They would need to be purged or have a massive migration away while the reasonable people stay.

At any rate, I might've confused them with some other trash-tier website in terms of being one of the Dragon's Crown attackers (might've been Eurogamer), but I know for a fact they are definitely SJWs from what I remember.

>>15975077

>(Well, I don't know how Microsoft is in regards to censorship. They're cancer in a lot of other ways like all of them are, but I've never really heard of censorship enforced by them

Microsoft has censored 3rd party games most recently it was that Conan Survival MMO game. You can be fully naked on PC but the Xbox version forces underwear. I think everytime they have censored it was a western game, though that is not saying much since they don't have much Japanese games. They at least have not shown a bias against Japanese games like Sony and Steam are doing. The 360 had a bunch of fucking shmups with lolis and whatnot and I don't remember hearing anything about them being censored. Even the few that came west like Otomaedius I don't think were censored. However that shit was not watched nearly as closely so I cannot say for sure. I think they might have censored the initial release of Gal Gun though which was a Japanese only game.

>>15975077

>Its a bad omen to me and suggests financial troubles or something failing.

No doubt it feels ominous especially Sony's policy looming over everything.

>I heard Pro was a flop for obvious reasons, and they've might been on that to buoy development for 13 sentinels.

I heard about that, and not only they released Pro, they also released Leifthrasir which was put together quite nicely. However, I'm not sure how well Pro and Leifthrasir sold, and if it did great, it most likely only made a small divett into 13 Sentinel's budget.

>Thankfully Kamitami can handle the long con when it comes to developing games

And having a thick skin when it comes to folks complaining about his work.

>I hope they don't lose any talented artits, programmers, or people

Having doubts that will happen seeing as how Kamitami experienced that kind of shit and other things during the time where Princess Crown flopped.

>>15975123

Never mind I just found this video from censored gaming talking about how they forced Gal Gun to remove the ability to see any panties in the game. It looks like this is what was blamed when the 360 lost all of it's niche japanese releases. Ironically enough inticreates then ran to Sony and made a PS3 port that was way lewder than the initial 360 version. This is probably why PlayStation started getting so many lewd games after that especially with the Vita launch. Man times really do fucking change don't they?

>>15975129

With Princess Crown he didn't really have a full studio under him, and he was also pretty much blacklisted from the industry for a long time.

The fact that he's still making great games and for publishers like Atlus (with their funny history with him) no less is something I would call a gaming industry miracle.

>>15975123

Thanks for the information anon, this is useful to me. I knew of some of those niche games on the older microsoft consoles and it was surprising to see them exist at all.

>full nudity

Well, that's not really surprising and seems like something all the other giant publishers would do the same for on their platform. I don't really like it, but it at least inspires a bit of confidence compared to the shitshow that is Sony right now, or Nintendo a few years ago (and also many years ago).

>censored Gal Gun

>for Japan-only

That just seems like a really retarded decision. Wasn't Gal Gun initially an xbox exclus-

>>15975151

Ah. That explains it.

What an embarrassment. I hope they learned their lesson since then.

>>15975129

Liefthrasir was the single best port/remake I've ever seen.

Dragon's Crown Pro on the other hand, I don't understand. It already runs at 1080/60 on the PS3 and there's no new content in Pro. It's the only Vanillaware release I have no intention of buying.

>>15975156

>Well, that's not really surprising and seems like something all the other giant publishers would do the same for on their platform. I don't really like it, but it at least inspires a bit of confidence compared to the shitshow that is Sony right now, or Nintendo a few years ago (and also many years ago).

Well one of the GTA4 DLCes had full frontal male nudity so it actually is allowed on consoles. However I understand that Conan does not have the same amount of clout so I am not extremely pissed off about it. As bad as Nintendo was just after Iwata died they only ever censored the games they themselves published. They never forced anybody else to censor themselves as long as they got through the ratings boards. That has remained Nintedo's stance ever since the ESRB was put in place. Though prior to the ESRB they were worse than Sony is now though only in the west. Even in the 80/90s they left Japan the fuck alone for the most part.

>>15975171

Personally haven't gotten into Dragon's Crown, but I heavily appreciate the setting, the designs, and the fact that it's a love letter to DnD. However, I can say Liefthrasir was definitely an excellent remaster.

>>15975188

Eh, their "curation" not being friendly at all more mature games also prevented a lot of 3rd party games from getting on their consoles and also treating them rather poorly and restrictively while they were developing for the consoles.

While it wasn't technically censorship, to me it effectively was. I'm mainly referring to the American branch of course, though to my understanding Nintendo of Japan was far less hostile, but still not as friendly as Sony and Sega were to the mature/lewd developers.

>>15975190

Eh, I don't have any worries about Vanillaware's handling of the setting and characters. Giant mechs in a contemporary yet ruined Japan/Tokyo seems like something they can handle with ease.

Agree about everything else though

>>15975198

Dragon's Crown itself is a brilliant game, especially if you can wrangle a few friends into playing with you.

I only meant that the Pro version is a pointless port.

>>15975171

I thought Leifthrasir was entirely Atlus' doing and Vanillaware did not develop it.

>>15975190

The games are physical copies, the press release specifically stated they were blu-rays. I don't know if the demo comes via code or is on the disc or a seperate disc though. I cannot see another game come out that runs like original Odin Sphere. Vanillaware made Dragon's Crown run fine on the Vita. I cannot imagine a 2D coming out nowadays from a competant developer that runs like ass.

>>15975210

Vanillaware still developed it, Atlus oversaw it pretty actively and had a hand in it.

>>15975171

The "Pro" additions are the DLC for PS3/Vita (you can change the narrator's voice) and the latest patch included on disc, and a """remastered""" soundtrack on par with the ear rape that was mario&luigi's superstar saga+minion's OST.

Kamitani probably shat this out to get more funds, PS4 has crossplay with vita and PS3 even, so it's nothing more than a port with shitty additional content, buy it only if you want to support vanillaware or something like that.

>>15975205

I hope they rip-off gunhound/metal slug, i don't like RTS or turn based combat, grim grimoire and grand knights history were fine but having a post apocalyptic setting with mechas and making a shitty RPG out of it instead of an action game would be a massive waste, i wouldn't even mind if half the game was a visual novel if the other half let me shoot gigantic robots with my own gigantic robot.

>>15975210

I hope it's not a code, even cuckjima had the decency to ship ground zeroes in a disc, and the first few copies had cool reversible covers with shinkawa's art on it.

The fact that they're again trying their absolute hardest to not show the gameplay means one of two things:

1) The gameplay is done and it's shit, so they want to avoid people seeing it before the game is shipped and the pre-orders taken.

2) The gameplay was done but was shit, so the delay is purely to try and shit out a new gameplay system as quickly as they can, which may or may not also end up being shit.

Add on to this the fact that all games must go through Cali-Sony's censorship machine now, and that this was supposed to be a game about nude high-schoolers in mechs, and I have to say I have very little faith in this game being good. Hell, even if by some chance the gameplay is good (which I highly doubt based on the three seconds we've seen), for a niche audience like Vanillaware's, the possibility of censorship will kill sales and pre-orders dead.

>>15974622

>PS4 only

>no gameplay

>already advertising DLC

I want to believe in Vanilliaware because I haven't regretted buying one of their games yet, but this isn't looking good.

>>15974644

yep, twinfinite also peddled the narrative, though it seems like the anita article is deleted. They should always be archived regardless who comes aboard:

https://archive.vn/ktoBJ

https://archive.vn/Vy1oB

>>15974807

>former EiC of Dualshockers

He's alright, anti-censorship, more anti-sjw then pro, and makes fun of the mainstream journo outlets like Kotaku but also a huge cocksucker for any developer or publisher and will whiteknight them for anything. Him trying hard to defend DOA6 was so disappointing, his devil's advocating for loot boxes was annoying and he always shills and defends for Star Citizen.

Still, I hope he changes twinfinite for the better, he's still a good journalist compared to the rest and is not afraid to show his love for japanese games

>>15979304

Yeah the guy is just a fanboy and you just have to know you cannot trust him on those subjects. It was pretty funny when journos said that DOA6 would not have jiggle physics. He was in the comments of that article and he seemed like he lost all his hope and joy.

>>15974807

>>15979304

Nelva also shills himself relentlessly on 4chan's /v/. Guy's a huge Sony astroturfer in particular, don't have any faith him.

That said, he's not nearly as much as a reactionary turbosperg as William Usher or Brandon Orselli.

>>15990900

>did that Kuma-tan game break your soul and you have to jew people their shekels?

I'm sure it was that DS game that came out in 2008 and not Atlus getting impatient at the fact that they've invested money in this game and have less to show for it now than they did a year ago.

This needs to be on PC.

Looks like shitty soy garbage. Geroge need to fuck off.

The reason for lack of gameplay is obvious. Only the conversations are in 2D, the actual game is some barebones 3D mobileshit.

>>15975208

>Dragon's Crown itself is a brilliant game

Nah, it's very short with repetitive gamepla. It's good a couple afternoons at most.

It tries to be diablo to lengthen the experience, and obviously fails spectacularly. Because it lacks both the variety and nuance of skills, and the levels are just too few.

>>15974622

>games is only coming out on the Soystation

>will be censored to shit

>will suffer the same ignoble fate as every other PS4 worthwhile exclusive

>all 5 of them

Why do they do this?

>>15991252

This, I fear snoy will censor it. I don't support them anymore so hopefully ps4 will be pirated at higher firmware to play it for free.

>>15991247

Atlus has generally had a fine reputation as far as I'm aware, though they are owned by Sega who, like all the major entertainment players in Japan has heavy yakuza connections

>>15974719

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>>15975190

>>15991097

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>>15991554

I keep on hearing arguments from normalfag-tier Snoy goys that Snoy will only go after VN games & games like Senran Kagura & DOA Extreme 3 with censorship and leave any other "big" PS4 titles alone (i.e. Soul Calibur 6 on PS4 and God Eater 3) despite the fact that Atlus said "We went as far as we could without the light shinning" as a PR response if Catherine Full Body will be censored or not. If Catherine Full Body ends up being censored, which the possibility is high, can we safely say that all future Japanese games release on PlayStation consoles will be censored by default whatever or not it's AAA or niche?

>>15993858

>can we safely say that all future Japanese games release on PlayStation consoles will be censored by default

Yes. Even if it's not made public, assume they were censored in development now.

>>15993858

>>15993884

This, always assume censorship, there's no reason not to

>>15993858

The only things that won't get censored are AAA western games.

>>15991247

>>15992167

Atlus is fine, no big scandal or anything. Although, their games and limited editions are occasionally more expensive than others, both the original Jap release and localised versions. The 3DS situation had a special name attached, the "Atlus Tax".

As for SEGA, they have a tendency of being out of touch with their fanbase but that's kinda par the course for big corporates. As far as I know, SEGA's never has done anything *too* scummy or anti-consumer outside of the usual corporate shenanigans, e.g. some of their games having unfairly pricey DLC.

>>15995003

I mean, let's not pretend Nintendo isn't censor happy as well. Though at least most of the time it's only for the localized pleb version.

>>15995158

>I mean, let's not pretend Nintendo isn't censor happy as well

Not anymore. At least not Nintendo Japan. Treehouse is the censor happy piece of shit, and guess what, they are US based.

>>15995177

They just censored the new Smash to get a lower CERO rating.

>>15995177

>>15995862

Yep. That's not even including

The Game and Watch censorship where they literally kowtowed to SJWs.

Mythra's censorship was also pretty bullshit

>>15994476

Their games are among the highest quality on their systems (and higher budget than most of the othershovelware), and they aggressively drop the prices quickly despite their games usually having more than the average game of that price. Atlus is more than fair about that shit. I get pretty much all my Atlus games for 20-22 bucks or less, and they're almost always launch editions that come with some nice goodies and a decent box

>>15995158

Only to their first-party games that gets "localized" in the west and any third-party games that they're directly publishing (i.e. MGS1 on GBC and TMS#FE) would only get censorship (and no, Bayo 2 wasn't one of them because Nintendo funded the game). Nintendo never dare to touch a third party game after what happened with MK on SNES.

>>15995177

Haven't heard any controversies from Memehouse after Fire Emblem Fates and TMS#FE happen. They could of been on a tight leash right now to make sure that they won't fuck up as badly as TMS#FE and Fire Emblem Fates.

>>15995862

Didn't Smash Bros always historically get an A rating from CERO? If anything, CERO has gotten worst with their guidelines on rated A&B games. Strangely from what I heard, the newest Dragon Quest game was rated A and there's some shit in that game that would make it a rated C game.

>>15996281

>Haven't heard any controversies from Memehouse after Fire Emblem Fates and TMS#FE happen. They could of been on a tight leash right now to make sure that they won't fuck up as badly as TMS#FE and Fire Emblem Fates.

Have they even worked on anything in that vein since then?

I know CERO is a piece of shit and the biggest cancer on Japanese gaming, but that doesn't mean they should just roll over for them. Just take the B rating rather than self-censor, it's not like it makes a big difference.

>>15996085

>The Game and Watch censorship where they literally kowtowed to SJWs.

Will they even make that change?

>>15996339

Huh? They already did.

>>15996350

Wouldn't knowI wish I could play Smash

>>15993858

Any game with a school setting is going to be automatically fucked with in the future. They specifically said that the school settings is what's causing the biggest problems.

>>15997380

That's Steam, not Playstation.

>>15997412

fuck you're right my bad

to redeem myself, maybe it still has some effect on SOnY titles as well.

>>16000726

Sony just censors everything Japanese.

>>15996306

>Have they even worked on anything in that vein since then?

The only game that I could think of is that Pokemon GO game for the Switch where three characters were named after the NuGame Grumps team from what I heard.

>I know CERO is a piece of shit and the biggest cancer on Japanese gaming, but that doesn't mean they should just roll over for them. Just take the B rating rather than self-censor, it's not like it makes a big difference.

As much as I would love for Nintendo to give higher rating for their E/A rated like games, from both the higher-ups and shareholders point of view giving an E/A rated game a E10+/B rating would potentially harm the sales of the game. I hate this but that just the way that they think.

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>>16000726

Doesn't Steam only use that "rule" for any VNs with school settings?

>>16001001

>Not waiting for a PS4 emulator to come out

>>16002167

But Smash was always Teen-rated.

>>16002233

Don't remind me. This will be something I'm forever angry about

Also I want to fuck the shit out of her

>>16002233

Would probably run like shit anyway.

>>16002270

Vanillaware games run excellently on the Vita, as do 2D games in general

>>16002313

>Sony released 3.70 firmware

Apparently it doesn't matter and anyone will be able to hack their 3.69/3.70 vita within the year. Would be a nice fuck you to Sony.

So, anyone gonna actually import the Prologue disc? My Jap, while not great, is probably sufficient for 13 Sentinels but even then I feel like holding off. It's just a 3-hour prologue. I feel like I should just wait until the full game's ready for released before buying, and the prologue should still be available on PSN by then.

>>16004172

Going to wait it out for a full release, and see more information on the prologue like the gameplay and if anything was blurred out or altered because of the policy. Will definitely pirate the OST when it's available though. One hand really hate how this shit is transpiring, but on the other hand, don't really want to fork out money for a 3-hr demo and all that crud that comes with it.

>>15975077

>That first pic

Here comes the shit…!