/v/ - Video Games

Doesn't Hi-Rez have the IP currently or did they only license it? In which case it's probably best that we don't get another game by them lest they tarnish the brand forever.

Also fuck Hi-Rez and their abandoning of games at the drop of a hat.

You can always go back to TribesNext. Sure it's not the most populated game but it's still fun.

Why did no one play Midair? Even I didn't play it and I can't really explain why, and it ended up dying before I ever bothered to.

>>15958099

People were turned off by the artstyle and the misunderstood monetization system that started you off with nearly nothing. It was basically "play for 60 hours and unlock everything or just pay $30 and get everything, present and future."

The issue with the system was that you started off with just a laser pistol, chaingun and fusor with light armor. The last two weapons are mainstay weapons that anyone should always have equipped, and the third mainstay weapon, the grenade launcher, can be unlocked after your first game. After that you need to unlock kinetic boost which is around 1 to 3 more games, and you are now with the best Light armor loadout in the game that pretty much every skilled player uses.

Issue is, you still had to unlock heavy armor, vehicles, grenades beyond frags, medium armor, all the energy kits (i.e. energy shields, teleportation) and weapons. So, you started off with nothing which makes you feel like shit and gives the assumption that the game is P2W, but the total grind required to unlock everything was pretty minimal in reality.

The launch also had bugs, poor server performance and the unlocks were busted for a week, and the game quickly died.

>>15958140

That's just a goddamn shame.

>>15958151

I played it a bit, both in public servers and pubs. I can't really compare it with anything, as it was my first real Tribes-like game (don't make me say ZFPS). The most fun though was creating a local server and skiing around the map for hours, although I've heard grumbling about the physics being shit by some people.

>>15958207

The physics are basically the same as Tribes 2 with hold-to-ski. The people who thought physics were shit only played Tribes: Ascend and didn't learn how Midair worked.

>>15983581

>and just slightly balanced every alternative equipment

but that would've token actual effort :C

>>15958099

It's cause midair sucked.

The way the maps were made, the way the jetpacks worked, the artstyle, the lack of balance, the fact that they did the retarded "light, medium and heavy" thing that killed tribes.

Add skins and retarded monitization.

The big kicker however, was the fact that you couldn't self host a fucking server, instead you had to "rent it".

They tried to clone everything that tribes did INCLUDING the shit no one liked.

Tribes Vengeance is community run now.

There's a firefox add on to tell you when players are online.

>>15983581

>Tribes ascend was better with the 9 classes and hi-rez shouldve balanced them instead of killing the game with its shitty "final" patch that tried to make a totally different game from scratch that pleased absolutely no one.

That's sounds exactly like what happened to Hawken, and many other f2p games. Free-to-play is the Early Access of PvP games.

>>15958091

According to wikipedia they own it.

>>15958140

>>15984227

If I remember correctly there was also some heavy midair shilling here near launch with an anon militantly defending everything about it for near 24 hours and pushing some reddit community's shit at the same time. I sadly lost the image showing it though.

>>15987830

That was potentially me, but I don't recall posting anything about Reddit. I just wanted a small indie shooter made with nothing but hopes and dreams with volunteer work get some attention on the site. I guess it didn't work out. I always knew it would end up that way, these revival shooters always do, I guess I just didn't want to believe it.

The game wasn't flawless. They could have handled the F2P model better or reworked the artstyle, but the latter was never gonna happen so far into development.

>>15984227

>the way jetpacks worked

Detected the T:Afag. You've never even played Tribes 1 or 2 have you.

>>15989462

>That was potentially me

For what it is worth, I wanted it to do well when I first heard about it too that quickly changed the more I heard about it though. Shame they fucked it up. Eventually some dev out there will get this shit right. I'm strangely confident about that, and I have no idea why.

>>15989462

>They could have handled the F2P model better

Yes. They could have handled it better by not going for it in the first place and then making a regular priced and developed game. There are way too many failed F2P games for me to think it's a sustainable model. The few handful that are at least semi-successful are lucky exceptions, and not the rules.

Honestly, the only thing I couldn't have seen them doing with Tribes-Ascend is to just let people host their own servers, Content-wise, I'm not sure what else they could have added, the game on it's own was fine, I viewed it as CS:GO in that regard, give players the ability to mod shit, host servers, and that's literally it.

But instead they choose to hold it hostage.

Xonotic.

>>15958207

I remember the dev builds leaking and setting up a server for people to connect to being a pain in the ass. Has this changed for TA?

I just want to host private servers for a small group of people occasionally and probably leave it running for /v/ too.

>>15989736

The game was pay to play for ages. That, and you could just buy the progression pass which gives instant access to all gameplay unlocks. It's the same as the Hi Rez and T:A model. Going pay to play for a niche game like that is just culling your chances even further and your chances aren't high to begin with.

>>15989969

Servers in T:A were rented with the in game currency from Hi Rez. Right now I think they have made the premium IGC free so anyone can host.

Why do normalfags get 1000 Fortnite clones but I can’t get one new Tribes game? Unlike the retarded trash that play and throw away a game in a week I would play a new Tribes for years.

>>16006812

Anyone who even thinks of developing a Tribes game will be pointed in the direction of Midair as proof that the subgenre is dead. I've never played any Tribes game but I put some hours into Midair (steam says 44) when anons started talking about it. I appreciated the skill ceiling, developed some speed and got some flags and pinpoint shots, but after a while I got bored. This kind of game develops a huge contrast in player skill, and absolute beginners (like I was) will not have any fun being useless until after they've forced themselves to play for a while. I've never played Overwatch or Fortnite but I'm guessing they're way more accessible.

>>15989462

>Detected the T:Afag

yes? so?

The game i'd rather play is Tribes ascend, and this isn't fucking tribes ascend?

What the fuck is your point in saying this?

The way tribes 2 works in it's mechanics is because the game has much smaller maps and thus the jetpacking works to a degree but without any of the speed.

The problem with midair comes straight from it's poor design in maps and the jetpacks, while not terrible, don't help.

The focus of midair and tribes 2 didn't have any of that large speed factor that tribes ascend had, they played more like an arena shooter.

>. You've never even played Tribes 1 or 2 have you.

I have and i actually enjoyed them, but….

there is still a somewhat active community behind those games, tribes ascend however doesn't due to the absolute shit stain nose dive it got because of hirez.

The fact that you're blowing away criticism because the game isn't what it was made out to be is retarded.

Literally all i kept hearing about midair when it was pushed was around the lines of it being another tribes game where you can "go fast", but even midair has a cap on movement which is exactly what killed tribes ascend for me.

>>16009080

>Tribes 2 had smaller maps

I don't remember this being the case at all. T:A was the one with smaller maps.

>>16009080

Midair also fails in being ugly as sin, and as a result, as an "outsider" it doesn't feel like the developers put any real effort into it. Cel shading is lazy, it always has been, the excuse for it always boils down to "it's stylistic!" but it's still shit. When I saw the first animation for the spinfusor "slap", I lost ALL desire to play the game. It felt so limp wristed. The sound design and HUD/IFF elements were lifted straight from T:A, which is like a slap in the face for anyone who is a T1/T2 purist. It's like a couple people in the Tribes community wanted to cash in on suckers rather than trying to create a good product.

>>16009095

This anon is right. If you play T2 now when the community is dead, yeah typically they play that tiny map that's only best as a 6v6 or 8v8. But most maps in T1/T2 would comfortably fit 20v20 or 30v30 when the game was at its peak. The mission zones were easily double what you ever had in T:A, with multiple bases in some of the maps, and the ability to go out of bounds to set up a cap route or inventory station. There was also a lot more verticality and diversity in map design, with mountains, hollows, rivers, lakes, fog, lightning, lava, and more shit I'm sure I forgot. Also most maps in T2 weren't completely symmetrical, and some were entirely lopsided. Compare that to T:A where every map essentially was a bowl shape with soft hills around the edges. In T1/T2 you had to find your own route based on your class, pack, and ability to place inventories and utilize vehicles. In T:A, the game highlighted the exact routes you used to cap flags.

hurts knowing ill never get to play rabbit with a bunch of other newbs on that beta UI ever again

what a fun game to just boot up and kill a couple hours on

>>15958074

youll never get a real tribes game again because tribes required skill to play and modern design and philosophy for games is to have the player never responsible for losing or being shit at the game. this means regen health, everyone has access to whatever load out they want, no restrictions on items, instant kill perks/killstreaks that take no skill to use, but make you feel good about yourself and the ability to blame as many other teammates as possible for the loss. oh and autoaim. can you imagine having to aim a disc while skiing at mach 5 and the butt hurt that would come from people trying to get into a game like tribes today?

>>16009732

Why are modern "Gamers" so much more retarded than the ones of the past?

why not just play the old ones?

Why on earth would you want Hirez to make a new Tribes?

>>15987830

>If I remember correctly there was also some heavy midair shilling here near launch

Hardly. It was when a couple of fags would enter a thread and cried shill every time someone wanted to talk about a game that wasn't well known. One guy kept reinforcing those views by biting their bait and arguing with them.

It was fucking annoying because I actually wanted to talk about the game when it came out.

Got bored with the game real quick though. It looked like ass.

dont post this anymore. you are tearing at my heartstrings. we can't turn back time and no one competent has remade the gameplay as well as it was, where movement was so good it was enjoyable simply traversing the maps with no other gameplay. until the free market solves this issue, stop making me relive this pain