64a1fc No.15939439
Grand Strategy Games
Archive
>>>/sengoku/1
>Where do mods go and other info?
https://pastebin.com/dTCRqZuN
>Anon's Edits (EU4, CK2 and V2)
https://pastebin.com/VZumvXiR
This Day in History, January 1st
>153 BC For the first time, Roman consuls begin their year in office on January 1.
>45 BC The Julian calendar takes effect as the civil calendar of the Roman Empire, establishing January 1 as the new date of the new year.
>42 BC The Roman Senate posthumously deifies Julius Caesar.
>1500 The Portuguese explorer Pedro Alvares Cabral reaches the coast of Brazil and claims the region for Portugal.
>1586 Sir Francis Drake launches a surprise attack on the heavily fortified city of Santo Domingo in Hispanola.
>1788 The Times, London's oldest running newspaper, publishes its first edition.
>1863 President Abraham Lincoln issues the Emancipation Proclamation, freeing the slaves in the Confederacy.
>1907 The Pure Food and Drug Act becomes law in the United States.
>1915 The German submarine U-24 sinks the British battleship Formidable in the English Channel.
>1918 The first gasoline pipeline begins operation. Along the 40 miles and three inches of pipe from Salt Creek to Casper, Wyoming.
>1942 The Declaration by United Nations is signed by twenty-six nations.
>1959 Fidel Castro seizes power in Cuba as General Fulgencio Batista flees.
b7a9a4 No.15939446
First for death upon all t*rks
b96859 No.15939455
DH Kaiserreich got updated to 1.9. Has anybody tried it yet?
5b1022 No.15939476
So does Holy Fury introduce anything worth a pirate? It'll probably break my mods which I'll have to re-find manual downloads for in the event
50a3b4 No.15939478
>>15939476
>It'll probably break my mods which I'll have to re-find manual downloads for in the event
I don't think any CK2 mod has been updated for it yet. Apparently they changed so much stuff (calling it CK2 3.0) that it takes significantly longer than normal to update the mods for it
2a7839 No.15939512
>>15939455
Why would you bother with something made by HoI4 people?
c5bf82 No.15940178
>>15939476
Not remotely. Bloodlines are a mess, crusaders don't work half the time and are plain broken when they do; 30s upon of 30s of thousands not despawning or the Pope sprinkling artifacts and ducats like candy. The warrior lodges are shit on a stick as well as you can with a little antagonizing or duel anyone, duel anyone. So children, spouses, claim holders or people liable to attack you. And with a massive advantage, too, it's like the old assassinate spam but free, usable on children and often with no penalty.
c13a50 No.15940553
Anyone else getting massive shortages of ~80% of ALL goods in HFM with Anon's edits? Even as number 1 GP, 10% tax, and negative tariffs none of my poor pops can get all life needs
191392 No.15940836
>>15940553
Watt version you using
c13a50 No.15940840
191392 No.15940909
>>15940840
That's kinda weird. What goods are scarce? iirc that shit only happens with ammo, boats and canned goods.
c13a50 No.15940925
>>15940909
Cotton, wool, livestock, fruit, occasionally grain
Tea and Coffee were at 1:3 supply to demand until 1900 in all my games so far
A bunch of others are similar but I haven't been watching them as closely and I don't know if it's been consistent
I have been doing some big time meme blobbing the last few games so i don't know if that's the cause
0c32b4 No.15940966
What do you guys think of Age of Civilizations II? I'm new to the grand strategy scene and I just got it, but the lack of a proper tutorial is killing me.
6cbe58 No.15941195
>>15940925
Must've been the chinks fucking up the market. Shit tends to happen sometimes.
ab7d40 No.15944758
d6ca61 No.15944894
>>15944645
>I don't think I'd be interested in Victoria
Just play it and find out.
74e8b1 No.15945786
>>15944799
Mods like imperium universalis, MEIOU or after the end maybe?
e2877a No.15946372
c13dc3 No.15946490
>>15944645
>I don't think I'd be interested in Victoria
Nigger Vicky is the best one.
903d70 No.15946548
How is the Thunder in the Sky mod for Darkest Hour? And although I played the Fatherland mod, it was a long time ago. How are the mods newer version? Any improvements?
>>15946490
Bully me if you want, but I coulnd get well into Vicky2. The economy part is hard to make well for me. I Only did a game of the game, but as Japan, so my economy was simple & controlled enough so I could do stuff, but everytime I went european or similar(sweden, brasil, etc…) It get difficult.
c13dc3 No.15946581
>>15946548
>but everytime I went european or similar(sweden, brasil, etc…) It get difficult
Europe is easy mode how do you manage that? All you need to do is get large swaths of African clay or south east Asian clay if you are the Dutch and you have infinite money. You should be researching all of the techs that lead to imperialism and everything that gives you research points as soon as possible too and grab medicine at some point when you can't do either of those. Also remember to tax the fuck out of everyone until you get more tax efficiency since even at around 100% taxes the effective taxes are usually around 15% since you want to rush imperialism and research points. As for factories that you want to build go with furniture, clothes, wine, and liquor since you always need all of that shit and the AI doesn't start producing ass tons of them until around 1910 and also build steamship, plane, and tank factories as soon as you can unless you don't want any of those since you will never have enough of any of them if you don't build your own and maybe even if you do build your own.
4d2c75 No.15948940
>>15944645
Gary Grigsby's War in the East
14a1d4 No.15949611
>>15944645
Play Geheimnisnacht and conquer the old world as Vlad 'the Chad' von Carstein.
299210 No.15950826
remember, believable worlds
96301a No.15954954
Wasn't there a new Anon's edits hotfix in the last thread?
c785ce No.15954972
2c6871 No.15955012
So is Stellaris any good or nah?
aa9570 No.15955105
>>15955012
Only if you're a headcanon fag. The game itself it boring as fuck unless you're autistically filling in the blanks yourself.
fc9369 No.15955727
OFFICIAL /gsg/ POWER RANKINGS
Elder Aryan God Tier:
>WitE
>WitW
>HoI3 BICE
Excellent tier:
>HoI3
>V2
Meme But Still Excellent Tier:
>CK2
POWER GAP
Ok Tier:
>DH
>EU3
>DW
>HoI2
POWER GAP
POWER GAP
POWER GAP
Borderline Phone Game Tier:
>EU4
Irrelevant Tier:
>Everything else
POWER GAP x999
Absolutely Disgusting This Is Not Even A Grand Strategy McFucking Kill Yourself Tier:
>HoI4
b96859 No.15956364
>>15955727
>operational level wargames are grand strategy
cc49ae No.15956385
>>15955012
its the best space strategy game out there
unfortunately the devs fucked the game up with the latest update
i recommend you to wait until they fix the AI's autism
2fa688 No.15956735
>>15956385
>Not distant worlds
05bc48 No.15956823
>>15956364
Grand strategy is a meme marketing term.
40e70f No.15956984
>>15956364
Show me your 1944 German campaign victory in WitE, if its so beneath you.
24d546 No.15957032
>>15955727
>official
>BICE better than vanilla
>CK2 better than DH or EU3
>power gap between CK2 and DH
pretty shit list
>>15956984
>operational level wargames not being gsg = wargames being beneath someone
4d2c75 No.15957041
>>15957032
>This map and level of strategic control
>Operational
3567ca No.15957327
>>15957032
Let me explain something to you, so simple that even your Fortnite tier brain will understand.
Let's say you want to invade the USSR as Germany so you can conquer it and post your epic Großgermania here. All well and good. Let us take a look at how this is accomplished in goy4:
<draw an arrow to kamchatka and click go
<win
This is not a grand strategy game. This is an abomination. The only """strategy""" in this game is learning to draw meme arrows and manage fuhrermana so you can tell Rommel hes your tank daddy and then every tank magically pierces 15% more armor overnight.
WitE has a 300+ page manual which includes merely the fundamentals of the game. There is a thousand times more strategy in this "operational" game than in your "grand strategy" that is goy4.
BICE is indeed superior to vanilla. More features, more flavor, more difficulty, more fun.
CK2 is in its own unique meme category. In no other game can I have a pregnant horse Pope lover and eat my children. No other game is like it.
EU3 and DH are good but simple gsgs and are should only be introductory titles to the main ones. A baby must learn to eat mush before solids.
Do not post again lest you embarass yourself with your simple peasant taste once more, or I shall insult you a second time.
960c5d No.15957532
>>15940178
>any one can duel anyone
Huh, sounds like a good/shit idea for a Warhammer mod for Khornite-faction.
fca386 No.15957701
>>15957327
Why are you shitting on him over HOI4 when he didn't even defend HOI4 retard?
dcb41e No.15957817
>>15957327
But HoI4 isn't a gsg either you imbecile
6e4da4 No.15957855
>>15957327
>I'm an idiot who never played hoi4.
And it shows.
985aba No.15957862
Are you ready to hand out your shekels to Johan for the newest HOI4 DLC anons? I know that the game has been shit so far, but it will surely become great gsg classic after the next expansion, this time things will clearly be different! Just look at its groundbreaking contents: the perfect combination of fan-made mods and features from other Paradox games like EU4 and Stellaris in form of modular ship building, parliamentarism and fleet-basing mechanics will surely revolutionize the entire Hearts of Iron-series. Beloved features such as mana points have never been so important as they will be needed for more and more decisions. The enlightened elite of Swedish development team is above such plebeian ideas as having nations start with ready-made cabinets and manufacturers and using the mana points to alter those or having manaless decisions which have actual impact. Those kind of outdated mechanics belong to ancient relics like HOI3, which Birger told me no one except autistic neckbeards care about anyway,
Its 2019, just hand out your shekels to the greatest gsg company ever to get your hands on that guaranteed Paradox Quality-product! Also remember to purchase totally-relevant soundtracks which are sold separately and which are totally not inferior to available free mods. You wouldn't want to support those antisemitic pirate nazis do you?
903d70 No.15957957
>>15957862
Stop with this shitty copypasta, anon. Please.
985aba No.15958075
>>15957957
Don't be such a sourpuss and hand out your cash to enjoy the joys of decolonizing UK during the WW2! Removing racism has never been easier while making your Empire stronger at the same time. Why fight Axis on the beaches when you can fight at hearts and minds of pixelated AI which will surely appreciate your progressive efforts. Brought to you by your best friends at Paradox HQ who craft believable worlds for your enjoyment.
b96859 No.15958147
>>15957327
I don't think that guy said anything about HoI4 being a good game. Are you sure you responded to the right person?
359d58 No.15959727
c785ce No.15959925
>>15959727
Thanks bro you too
fca386 No.15961359
557b07 No.15962774
Can I get a war in the east serial key pl0x0rz
cde836 No.15963760
Why is everyone in the latest version of CK2 crippled or scarred? Literally half of all kings in Europe are crippled in one way or another. The other half is stressed or depressed. Was it always like that in vanilla? What the fuck.
773d33 No.15963788
>>15963760
Holy Furry changed the way how combat works.
9075ee No.15963818
>>15963760
extremely deadly combat with a high chance of death or injury (thanks to Holy Fury) combined with infections and diseases from the Reapers Due produces those kind of results.
14916b No.15964328
What do you think about CWE?Where is the Vic 2 anon modder?
0439fd No.15966157
>>15964328
It's okay if you enjoy world wars 3-9001 memes pretty sure he's on break for a little while, he mentioned before Christmas he was getting a bit burned out so it'll probably be a couple of months till next release I'd guess
7b83b3 No.15966226
Are there any other games that are closer to CK2? I'm an RP fag and enjoyed just focusing on my dynasty and fulfilling small ambitions or becoming a Satanist or something.
Some of the other Paradox strategy games like EU and HOI feel like board games.
40e70f No.15966831
I crown myself Emperor of /gsg/.
40e70f No.15966840
>>15962774
You should have bought on the Steam winter sale a few days ago you dumb nigger. It was something like 75% off.
Just go download the 300+ page manual and read it for the time being. By the time you finish and memorize it, the game will likely be on sale again.
f13ca2 No.15967014
f0974b No.15967025
>>15966831
maybe if it were vicky faggot.
397d95 No.15967227
>>15950826
Those borders are beauties compared to some I've had
2029fc No.15967561
>>15964328
NWO dev was pretty redpilled, CWE dev is pretty bluepilled. Unfortunately NWO isn't as actively developed and currently has an awful pixelly blob map. But it does have more techs and realistic pop growth.
903d70 No.15967578
>WitE
>WitW
>HoI3 BICE
>CWE
What does acronyms means? What games/mods are these?
25da8e No.15967722
>>15963760
Because it's a shit game and it being shit is accepted as a meme so they don't even bother fixing it?
>>15966831
Alright. You can join the prestigious club that includes the /kingofpol/ and the tranny of /nost/.
cde836 No.15967764
>>15967578
>WitE
War in the East
>WitW
War in the West
>HoI3 BICE
Hearts of Iron 3 Black Ice mod
>CWE
Cold War Enhancement mod for Victoria 2
aa1cc9 No.15967841
79dd5e No.15967951
>>15967561
Yeah,climate change kills your rgo of plants,inmigrants from anywhere with enough titles of gender studies can become white,and other bunch of stupid shit.
a31a99 No.15968040
>>15944645
Sengoku.
>>15949611
How do you even get the game running? I tried installing various versions, but it never worked for me.
25da8e No.15968162
>>15968040
I hope you mean Sengoku Rance because the paradox one is fairly garbage.
a31a99 No.15968174
>>15968162
Hey, anon didn´t say the game had to be good, right?
25da8e No.15968190
>>15968174
True. Admitted to having shit taste of own volition as well.
9a8493 No.15972326
>>15939439
Daily reminder that Imperator will be shit and That Imperium Universalis is always the better option.
14a1d4 No.15973062
>>15968040
Just install the latest version (1.2) and make sure it's running on CK2 patch 2.8.1.1. There's apparently going to be a new version soon™ that's compatible with the latest DLC.
1066d1 No.15973207
>>15972326
I just want to know how much WE WUZ and feminism will be in it.
There should be a rating system for games based on niggers, like "time to crate" but with black people.
549f49 No.15976939
>pirate HOI4 with all dlc
>max it out
>ugly as fuck
why paradox keeps pushing for 3D maps when they are ugly as fuck?
2a7839 No.15976993
>>15976939
>wasting your time on HoI4
65b137 No.15977076
>>15976939
>why paradox keeps pushing for 3D maps when they are ugly as fuck?
This. I wish I could play Vicky 2 with a 2D map even when it's zoomed.
aa1cc9 No.15977446
>>15976939
I think the same. Why bother with 3D world style from CK2 style, when the EU3 and Vicky2 3D style worked well ( enought detail of geography of the world, but political map was flat 2D when zoomed out). Paradox games are political simulators, and in said games, it is important to show the nations, empires and borders well detailed. Why bother with showing too much graphic details for games that no need it? And why make the geographic details be shown too when zoomed out? Makes full map images ugly and weird.
cde836 No.15977467
>>15977446
There's an option that allows you to set camera to be in permanent 90 degree angle to the map. At least in CK2.
8286f1 No.15978465
>>15972722
I will upload it if you (or anyone else) posts a picture of their legs (with underwear visible) in thigh high socks with timestamp.
I have all the DLC as well.
I solemnly vow I will honor this deal if you post a timestamped picture or you may report me for being a lying faggot and I will accept responsibility in the form of a permanent ban.
2342d8 No.15978993
>>15977446
I think the 3D world style makes sense when you zoom in. EU3 and Vicky2 had a problem of it not being obvious what terrain you'd be fighting in at first glance and I usually just memorized or clicked on every province but in EU4 it's a bit more obvious. Besides I always thought the map creases when you zoomed out were ugly and I always got a mod that got rid of them.
636cc7 No.15980569
>>15950826
Gets me wondering, why do the borders always look so disgusting? Forgetting Ottoman blobbing for a second here
cf6a7c No.15980582
>>15955012
They recently released a big DLC that changed mechanics, as a result a shitton of stuff is broken, as are two of the end game crises (blanked out code with TODO comments everywhere) and the performance issues are horrible with the game becoming completely unplayable past 100 to 150 years in.
81ab8e No.15981621
>>15976939
HOI4 is only for shitposting, bad memery and 100% BELIEVABLE history anon, the ugly map and poor performance are just par for the course, especially under current Parasomalia games.
>>15980569
It has a lot to do with the AI making really dumbass decisions when annexing territories, it always does so in a completely haphazardous way instead of having any consideration for strategy, resources or utility, it goes apeshit and tries to take whatever the hell it feels like, even if it means creating bordergore-tier useless enclaves.
299210 No.15982672
>>15980569
A.I. is autistic and rebels are completely unrealistic, in my italy game almost every 10 years over 250k people revolted because i could not kill revolutionary ottomansfrom 1750 to 1821 i probably killed over 4 million italians and 1.5 million somalians
5f4953 No.15983667
Some faggot on the communist website has been playing Vicky without any comprehension of blobbing or human decency, and this is what he came up with. What’s odd is that he’s playing alone as France, and yet Ukraine looks like that, too.
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/map-thread-xviii.448574/page-266#post-18217357
f9c25e No.15983675
>>15983667
That community is only good for their X-BAMs
fca386 No.15983678
>>15983667
Why is he playing on vanilla?
f5a9b3 No.15983715
So is stellaris still shit?
bc00c6 No.15985207
>>15983715
What did you dislike?
a18059 No.15985253
>>15983667
>FRENCHFAILURE save
>Turkish flag
bc20e6 No.15985471
>>15983667
Prussia has that piss yellow color, doesn't that mean he's playing some outdated version, not even vanilla with all official patches?
cde836 No.15985594
>>15985471
It's version 1.3. That's the latest version you can get without DLCs.
e93f3b No.15987762
>>15983715
Stellaris is currently in a worse shaped than it has been for ages: Performance is completly in the toilet thanks to the new trading/job allocation system, AI is even more broken, the new planetary system introduced more micromanagement when the opposite was advertised, two crisises are flat out broken, the market can be gamed easily for infinite money and there has been a huge deal of nerfs (hive minds/machine intelligences are now shit, city planets beat out everything while habitats are useless etc).
In short: It's a fucking mess, many of the existing flaw were not adressed (again) and the technical debt keeps increasing (again).
98505a No.15987922
Recommend me something, /gsg/. I've been a long time veteran of grand strategy and strategy games in general. I got burnt out, however, and I'm wondering what games are there enticing enough to get me back. I'm looking for /gsg/ that is out of the ordinary, in either its gameplay or its setting
c8a5c3 No.15988855
>>15967722
What's /kingofpol/'s claim to fame?
c908a8 No.15988867
>>15988855
He likes sucking on penis
c8a5c3 No.15988881
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>>15988867
That's /kingofleftypol/, you uneducated newfag.
Forgot to spoiler that atrocity
c908a8 No.15988897
>>15988881
No king of pol said he liked traps and wanted some dude's dick pics a couple of months ago. Trannypol sucking dick a different but also a hilarious thing.
2a7839 No.15988966
>>15987922
The genre doesn't have that many games and you should know that. Try some of the space games if you haven't, not Stellaris. Or just find some interesting for you mod. Or you know, you don't have to play such games if you are not having fun. Play something else and maybe come back to playing them at another time.
f9c25e No.15989219
>>15985471
>that assburger comic
337bd1 No.15989236
>>15988897
Truly a sad state of affairs but is anyone truly surprised?
>>15988966
>>15987922
Have you tried Stars in Shadow? A bit cartoony but scratches that MoO2 itch in all the right ways. Stellar Monarch is also out there but fairly immersive if nothing else. Emperor of the Fading Suns for a true classic as well.
fc9369 No.15989634
Pic related is the best German border configuration
e77ff1 No.15989946
>>15989634
I dont see it anon
636cc7 No.15990504
>>15985471
give us more assburger comics
636cc7 No.15990510
>>15981621
I guess FULL ON BELIEVABLE WORLDS also requires believable retards. You're right, they just seem to be programmed by a twelve years old.
>>15982672
That's because paracucks are huge communists when in reality most revolutions took at BEST 10% of the population of any given region, and that's the three-four most significant ones, even WWI Germany in its death throes couldn't muster more than a few thousand revolutionaries in Berlin and that was enough to call it a revolution.
9264ee No.15992210
how does /v/ feel about Crisis In The Kremlin and Ostalgie: Berlin Wall?
>inb4 ur a Marxist
no argument found
try to set your biases aside and be objective.
9264ee No.15992215
jsyk I get banned from leftpol a lot due to my social views not matching with my economic ones. socially I'm probably far more reactionary than average /pol/
50a3b4 No.15992229
>>15992210
never heard of either, tbh. Gonna try the kremlin one.
>>15992215
>being economically leftist
Are you aware that every country with socialist economy (and I mean economy, not just socialist policies) either abandoned it in favour of capitalism-lite, or shat itself?
5b1022 No.15992248
>>15992229
But that wasn't TRUE economic socialism! :^)
c908a8 No.15992353
>>15992215
>than average /pol/
Average /pol/ is an edgy conservative, saying you're "far more reactionary" holds no weight.
ce1ec2 No.15992829
>>15992210
It's basically a VN and not a grand strategy game.
>>15992215
Go back to /suckysucky/ then.
50a3b4 No.15994928
>>15992210
Tried Crisis in the Kremlin. Not a GSG in any way, just a management game where you juggle the budget. Not very good at that either – while there are plenty of sliders and things to keep track of, there are much fewer things to actually do, and they tend to be heavily scripted. You essentially pick a path at start and then hope you can shuffle the numbers well enough to see it through to the end.
Let's hope the other game is better.
50a3b4 No.15994931
>>15994928
I forgot to mention that the game has abysmal documentation too. Playing with a guide is basically a necessity because the game gives you no indication of what the sliders actually do, and while shit like "houses" increasing "housing" are obvious, it sure as hell isn't clear that "computerisation" increases the amount of luxury goods.
2188ee No.15994951
>>15939476
The only good additions are all the hundreds of counties that were added, mostly in the steppes. So now you have a more detailed map is that's your thing. The combat system was reworked and is now more flexible (you don't need 400 gold swords to win duels). More traits and some pagan stuff.
96301a No.15999026
>>15985471
>>15983667
Is there a way to bring back that 'open-borders' look? Maybe copy some files from the older version?
bc20e6 No.15999046
8228d0 No.15999456
>>15987762
Yeah, you're full of shit. The AI's not touched ei still crap and the planetary UI overhaul is the best thing this game got since the launch. The trade performance is annoying but you can manually mod it out in like two minutes.
The main issue was and still is that the game is pretty boring once you've seen most of the events.
>>15983715
In short, yes.
8228d0 No.15999459
>>15994951
>hundreds of counties that were added, mostly in the steppes
How, dear God how, is that a good thing? I mean, sure, if you're a fucking pagan or even better a horsefucker then you've no problem claiming a bunch of land but can you imagine trying to take that shit outside of a full crusade? It already takes years to decades to take a duchy from a decently sized country as is.
1ce83a No.15999486
Why the hate for HOI4 when CK2 is seen as acceptable? They are both shitty games which one can only enjoy for the memes. Even if you ignore some of the more retarded DLCs with Sunset Invasion being the worst offender, you are left with broken, unrealistic meme simulator instead of some gsg-masterpiece some people pretend CK2 is.
8228d0 No.15999497
>>15999486
Speaking for myself it's because I've played HoI2 and 3 and this doesn't compare. But if it makes you feel any better I don't consider CK2 as anything remotely acceptable. For one because it takes a special brand of history revisionist swedish cocksucker to make a game about CRUSADER KINGS and make the both the Christians and kings as a form of government much, so much worse than any alternative.
2a7839 No.15999742
>>15999486
The fuck are you being butthurt about? No one things CK2 is good. Just a bit more acceptable and mods can fix it a bit better. You can turn of a lot of gameplay shite too. It is going to always end up as BELIEVABLE WORLDS, but at least it you can accept it as another retarded child in the party.
HoI4 on the other hand is hated for representing even further the future of the genre through the work of Paracucks. It is a lot newer, but even much so of a meme simulator than anything else. Fundamentally broken since day one, no mod can fix it. There are games to go back to and enjoy better. On the other hand there is only CK1 before CK2 and clearly no one wants to go that much in the past. It was clearly never given the love of something like Darkest Hours for example. So if you want to play that period of time it pretty much is just CK2 and it was created even before EU4, even if by a little. It is bad, but from a period just enough better than current year.
8228d0 No.15999760
>>15999742
>there is only CK1
You can always play sengoku :^)
299210 No.15999783
>>15990510
i was genuingly getting angry because i could not conquer any late game colonies liek india because i had to ship al my armies back to italy to stop the fucking revolts, but they realy need to rework the rebel system no 3 development province in the fucking sahara can muster a force of 30k sand raiders with modern equipment, fully armed
1ce83a No.15999854
>>15999497
CK2 suffers from similar problems that plague HoI4: retarded mana system, historical revisionism and unrealistic gameplay. Summoning all your kingdom's troops from feudal tile is just as retarded as drawing a line and pressing the go button, to say nothing of the assorted DLC bullshit. You can make arguments to defend that, but similar arguments could also be made for HoI4. So stop your pretentious bullshit about CK2 any better than HoI4 simply because you like its memes better. "Mods will fix it" is no answer because same can be said for both. Just accept that both are meant as meme games and your precious viking larp or cucking RP etc. is not any better than the people who get off on playing HoI4 with mods.
8228d0 No.15999883
>>15999854
> retarded mana system
It's really hard for me to take you seriously when you apparently don't know the first thing about how said system works in CK2. In short it's just about the most pointless, irrelevant thing in that game there is. Unless you're a mudslime or pagan because they get some use out of piety and prestige. But even then it's not nearly as useful as cold hard cash.
If you want to talk, we can talk but if you're just looking for some attention with bad bait you've got the wrong mark.
cde836 No.15999950
>>15999854
>unrealistic gameplay
Just like all games made by Paradox. EU3 or Victoria 2 aren't any better in that regard.
2a7839 No.15999966
>>15999854
First >>15999883 you are really making it obviously you haven't even played the game much, probably even lost horrible, or just watched some youtube videos at best and now use the staple meme opinions.
But also you clearly are just mad for people liking one shit game better than another one, which makes no sense to be mad over. Except if you are actually for some reason more found of HoI4 and are just pretending to hate it.
Even if you don't ignore the mini meme events of rules CK2 is factually less of a meme game and BELIEVABLE WORLDS game than HoI4. Well okay, the latter might be questionable.
No one even said mods will fix it. As I said the base game is just better. Not great, nor good, just better when compared to HoI4. Maybe okayish at best. That actually makes it more salvageable by mods and the base game itself has the option to turn on or off many mechanics.
But again, your reason to be so mad makes absolutely no sense. If anything I would be more interesting to hear if people think CK2 or EU4 is mechanically better. Though EU4 I haven't even launched in a long time. CK2 at least I will start from time to time.
690328 No.15999973
>>15999883
>>15999950
>>15999966
>actually defending HOI4 and EU4
fuck is wrong with you faggots
8228d0 No.15999985
>>15999966
Oh, I'm positively seething with rage over someone criticizing a paradox title. Think I'll even cry.
>>15999973
You IP hopping or is reading a lost art now?
690328 No.16000019
>>15999985
>>15999982
I guess English isn't your first language
2a7839 No.16000031
>>15999985
Admittedly maybe it was a little ambiguous, but by linking first to 1ce83a's post I think it should have been clear I was replying to him and him only and was only trying to say you are right. So getting all defensive on me makes very little sense, especially if you considered I was arguing on the same side as you.
5b1022 No.16000058
8228d0 No.16000061
>>16000031
I suppose I jumped the gun then. But in my defense I was already laughing my ass off. Have an old /gsg/ meme as your compensation.
1ce83a No.16000170
>>15999883
>>15999883
Prestige and Piety systems were clearly prototypes of what became monarch points in EU4 and political power in HoI4. If anything I hold special hateboner for CK2 for being a prototype for the kind of mechanics which ruined EU4 and HoI4's futures by making Paradox think that lazy solutions were good idea. All three of them are objectively equally shit because of the same three core reasons which I listed before. No amount of mods will get around that.
tl;dr: Modern Paradox games are all shit, stop trying to pretend that CK2 is somehow less shitter than the other turds
8228d0 No.16000273
>>16000170
Yeah, it's not like Svea Rike (a game from the late 90s) had those two same resources or anything :^)
ea8d99 No.16000290
>>16000273
>green/yellow soldier
For a moment, I thought it was a Muslim.
50a3b4 No.16000360
>>16000170
nigger, prestige and piety are clearly used as score trackers – there's barely anything that even makes use of them
4590c5 No.16000367
8228d0 No.16000438
>>16000360
Sure, unlike the vast, vast mileage you get out of them if you're playing a Christian in CK2.
2cec6d No.16000472
>>16000061
>nerve gas pods
>sub carrier
I jej'd. patrician taste.
has anyone noticed a bug with KR which gives ther German Empire 20% of every ideology? Also, trying to win Spanish civil war as republicans. it's a real motherfucker with 2/3 of your army are these shitty milicia popular with only 2 batallions in them.
8228d0 No.16000527
>>16000438
nonChristian, rather. But at least they got rid of the instant spawn tribal armies bullshit in the recent patch.
>>16000472
It made for a fun gamenight alright.
33bec9 No.16000583
I am currently bit tight on budget and also not feeling like pirating game. Are there any good enough community driven open source grand strategy games?
Quick search revealed several candidates but most seem abandoned and unmaintained except for maybe TripleA. Any tips or thoughts?
33bec9 No.16000612
my vpn subscription ran out and I don't want glow in the dark to raid share house I'm living
a57558 No.16001665
>>15999456
>AI's not touched ei still crap
AI still build exactly jack and shit on it's planets.
>hurrdurr who cares that the vanilla game turns into a lagfest 150 years in just mod it bro xD
Pic related.
d48c0a No.16001873
>>16000583
>>16000612
Dude, are you mentally retarded?
50a3b4 No.16002020
>>16000438
Like what? Piety and prestige are absolutely worthless for almost everything if you play christian. Pagans use prestige as money to build their shit and in events. It's not that there isn't ANYTHING they could be used for, but it's minor shit that's nowhere near EU4 mana, where it's the most important resource in the game
84149d No.16002021
Just finished my first 700 year ironman game in CK2 and it only took me a little over a month.
96301a No.16003057
Is this intentional? You can't do it as a great power?
c785ce No.16003090
>>16003057
I might've fucked up.
Have this hotfix, paste it over ANON_HFM/decisions
https://puu.sh/CxLoD/4aedacd42a.7z
299210 No.16003342
does anybody else like to jsut larp for a bit? i was going for rekindling fire achievement but it became a kinda interesting run, acidently created the old eastern rome/sassanid borders, with the ottomans being the rightfull eastern roman emperors and me as persia
690328 No.16003431
>>16000061
>>16000031
>Cuckchanners jerking themselves off with shitty memes
23d538 No.16003467
>>16003092
How is she speaking with a dick in her mouth?
9264ee No.16003578
being a Machiavellian Chekist doesn't seem to work out in by all appearances fair play
9264ee No.16003581
btw I got dethroned shortly after this
6d7ecd No.16003843
>>16003090
hey edits anon, dont want to rush you or anything but when do you think you'll release 1.45?
00fc46 No.16003858
>>16003467
Well, she's obviously drawing kanji with her tongue.
00fc46 No.16003869
>>16003431
That's actually from a SMAC /v/ plays we had around late 2016 iirc. Or maybe early 2017.
e00653 No.16003903
>>16003858
The one fucking time I wouldn't be complain about muh 1000x folded strokes.
00fc46 No.16003969
>>16003903
And just imagine all the daily reps.
c785ce No.16004034
>>16003843
I seriously don't know. I'm wagecucking, so no ETA so far.
6d7ecd No.16004472
>>16004034
understandable, are you just adding stuff in america or europe gets new stuff too?
c785ce No.16004614
>>16004472
Just reworked some stuff in the Caucasus and I'm probably gonna start adding flavor to Mexico and the rest of America.
9c78c5 No.16005173
>>15955727
>HOI3 BICE
do you enjoy lagging?
473cf0 No.16005333
>>16003342
How do you even get Zoroastrianism back in EUIV without converting from CK2?
000736 No.16005443
>>16005333
I think 1 province (Yazd?) is Zoro by default, for the memes.
50a3b4 No.16005471
>>16003505
It's Evenicle, a shit game.
299210 No.16005530
>>16005443
>>16005333
yazd is zoroarstrian and a releasable tag for timerlame, it was a historical holy site for zoroarstrians and because it was so lowly populated zoroarstrians formed the majority of the population until the safavids took over
0092d5 No.16005768
>>16005173
I enjoy having an OC'd I9-9990k you poor goy
00fc46 No.16005985
>>16005471
>alicesoft
>game's all about removing kikes and marrying virgins
>shit
I'm surprised a cocksucker like yourself can't appreciate a good blowjob CG
50a3b4 No.16006975
>>16005985
>white knighting MC
>absolutely retarded setting and story
>good
I'm surprised to see a faggot like you in a gsg thread, when you enjoy a game that drones on and on about how war is the pinnacle of evil
00fc46 No.16007072
>>16006975
Yeah, you're right. Who could in their right mind enjoy building a harem of adoring cute girls to help him stop the literal ZOG? :^)
But seriously, fine writing it's not but there's an undeniable appeal in beating a greedy corporatefag that again, literally attacks by stealing your money and throwing it back at you or some mad scientist that's into breeding humans with monsters so he's got a race of serviles. And those are just the first few bosses. Also you can't put a price on all the patented TADA humor.
>white knighting MC
Aster doesn't qualify for that on the sheer fact that he fucks almost everyone he meets and or fancies.
>when you enjoy a game that drones on and on about how war is the pinnacle of evil
I also enjoyed valkyria, trails in the sky, fallout, summoner, divine divinity both old and some of the new ones, eisenwald, might and magic, arkania, bard's tale, kult, drakensang, and more games that follow a very similar plot. You going to shit on them? I repeat, I'm surprised a cocksucker like yourself can't appreciate a good blowjob CG.
50a3b4 No.16007099
>>16007072
>Aster doesn't qualify for that on the sheer fact that he fucks almost everyone he meets and or fancies.
How about the countless "I helped u cuz ur a gurl :))))))"? The thing I hate about him is how he's the most generic good guy archetype whose only quirk is that he likes sex.
>You going to shit on them?
I don't recall any of them going "War? Isn't that that horrible thing in fiction literature? Oh my god how horrifying, why would anyone do that?" dozens of times throughout the game. I don't mind a setting like fallout, where you are shown the consequences of war, but I cannot fucking stand these retarded attempts at moralization.
and that's not even getting into the setting:
>do not kill or fuck more than one person or you're an outlaw
>if you're an outlaw then god will make it so that you can't grow any crops, can't mine any ore, will bring bad luck to aany community harboring you, and generally make sure you have no way to make an honest living
>but if you steal food to survive then you're an arch-villain that deserves death, and will be murdered in cold blood by special soldiers who were given an exception to above rule by the God :^)
>also if you get raped, then it still counts as having sex with more than one person, so you're an outlaw anyway, fuck you
804112 No.16007125
>>16003903
>speak tiny horse grow moon heart knife cave walk
>somehow magically means “biangbiang noodles”
Goddamn moonspeak with its retarded logographic system. You know the chinks, et. al. have a different part of their brains light up when they handle language than Europeans do, right? The cortex for processing “pictures” is where they do their linguistics. About 40 years ago, the chinks were trying to develop a virus that would damage the part of the brain used for processing European languages and were going to spread it around the world. They would be unaffected.
00fc46 No.16007141
>>16007099
Again, fine writing it's not.
>do not kill or fuck more than one person or you're an outlaw
Unless you're fucking notelves. Or wear a rubber. Or grow a vibrating haniwa on your dick. Also dragons don't count. Or saints. Or the goddess that made those rules. Also blowjobs, anal or handjobs don't count, obviously.
If anything most of the Alicesoft games openly make fun of hard "systems" and hard "rules" you see in most JRPGs in particular. Rance as their best known example is a walking contradiction to just about anything from established in game lore to biology and gravity. For example I don't know whether you played X but it's heavily implied that his hyperweapon reached the point of being able to pierce the supposedly perfect protection force field demons and even archdemons have.
>I helped u cuz ur a gurl
A cute girl. You then fuck. What's the problem?
50a3b4 No.16007157
>>16007141
>A cute girl. You then fuck. What's the problem?
It's just a boring and kind of annoying character. I was hoping for another Rance, got this moralfag instead.
00fc46 No.16007179
>>16007157
I take it you're not a fan of kamidori or galaxy angels either? I get it though, but it's hardly the worst fucking game ever EVER!! just because they didn't feature the lovable rapist.
Although, have you tried Duel Saviour? The PC is very much a jackass and the gameplay ain't too shabby either.
50a3b4 No.16007213
>>16007179
haven't played galaxy angels, but yeah, I can't stand kamidori either. Actually forced myself to try and play it through a few times due to all the shilling, but I just couldn't stand the MC.
>but it's hardly the worst fucking game ever
It's not the worst game, but the writing is undeniably worse than in Rance games and the gameplay is generic at best. Sure, gameplay isn't that important in games like these, and it was absolutely dogshit in early Rance games, but I still played through them because I thoroughly enjoyed the writing. In Evenicle, that was not the case. At least the CGs look very nice, I guess.
>have you tried Duel Saviour?
I have not, will give it a try
00fc46 No.16007239
>>16007213
Alright
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Bear in mind that it's going to be a pain to run and that this is a rare example where the game does massively improve the more you play it. The characters get more complex and the combat scales difficulty with each beaten battle. It also has a tendency to go from classic slice of life braindead comedy to some deep dark fantasy tier everyone's dropping like flies grimdark.
50a3b4 No.16007259
>>16007239
this better not be dolphin porn, anon.
Thanks.
5b1022 No.16007335
9129f1 No.16009090
>>15999854
Combat/war is arguably the worst part about CK2, but unlike HOI4, CK2 isn't a wargame, and isn't as reliant on combat. Again, CK2 is enjoyable despite horrible combat, while HOI4 can never be enjoyable due to the horrible combat.
9b2cb4 No.16009921
>>16009090
>CK2 isn't a wargame, and isn't as reliant on combat
bed193 No.16010136
>>16009921
It's true though. It's more of a roleplaying game with vassal management. The wars are the result of your politicking and scheming to get claims on thrones.
a2ef42 No.16010288
>>16009090
hoi4 has good combat though compared to all other paradox games
a2ef42 No.16010304
>>16007125
>About 40 years ago, the chinks were trying to develop a virus that would damage the part of the brain used for processing European languages and were going to spread it around the world. They would be unaffected.
Did you play mgs5 while overdosing on semen.
c5cbe7 No.16010499
>>16010136
No anon, it's not remotely true and you're a moron who fell for marketing memes.
bed193 No.16010590
>>16010499
Substantive rebuttal
c5cbe7 No.16010630
>>16010590
You got two-three replies for low effort bait, what, want dinner and dance as well?
bed193 No.16010636
>>16010630
Do you want to know how I can tell you're from reddit
c5cbe7 No.16010654
>>16010636
Alright. Have one more on the house.
62f16e No.16010675
>>16009090
HOI4's combat is fine by grand strat standards. In fact I find it a lot less painful and tedious than most of them. HOI4's problems are the severe lack of historical accuracy (I played as Germany and WW2 didn't even happen because the Danzig corridor massacres never happened so I had no impetus to risk war over Danzig), the over-reliance on focuses that are basically decision trees, and the bugginess.
477a16 No.16013389
reinstalled ck2 this week and i'm noticing some weird shit
strat at 1066 as some random realm in ireland and after about 1-2 centuries cities are crazy populated. For most of the game i've only had a personal army of around 2-4k, while now i've got around 80k/200k for only 3 counties
i've had long games before, and even then the biggest army i ever saw was the byzantines with around 12-25k, now i'm casually seeing rebels with 100k, distant petty kingdoms invading me with multiple 60k armies etc.
477a16 No.16013393
>>16013389
oh wait, apparently that was a mod i never got a chance to break until now
2188ee No.16013401
477a16 No.16013409
>>16013401
yea, latest verion
it was the settlement populations mod
definitely getting rid of it, i didn't realize it was this retarded
2188ee No.16013436
>>16013409
>settlement populations mod
Shame. It sounds like something that should be in the base game but if it breaks the game that badly it's not worth it.
On a different note: I've been having problems with shattered world, specifically the legendary conquerors. I am never enabling that broken dogshit ever again. It's really fun blobbing for a 100 years just to have some invincible, OP character steamroll all your armies because the game gave him an unfair martial skill of 30+ and have him spawn rape armies out of nowhere. Not dealing with that meme again.
477a16 No.16013443
>>16013436
>breaks the game that badly
technically it's still playable, recruitment gets scaled
but if you try to go anywhere with your army you'll go bankrupt in only a few moves, which is my biggest problem
2188ee No.16013459
>>16013443
>but if you try to go anywhere with your army you'll go bankrupt in only a few moves
Wait, shouldn't income be scaled as well? How much is upkeep?
477a16 No.16013568
>>16013459
it sort of is, i make like 49g a month
but the army upkeep is way higher, not sure how much but i go form around 700g to -999 after moving through a few tiles
59b495 No.16014866
>>16013459
>>16013568
I don't get how you play this game at all.
50a3b4 No.16015095
>>16014866
the whole lineage shit was retarded from the get go. It was used in the Elder Scrolls mod, but that was a fantasy setting. IRL none of that shit would give you any bonus. If some dude came to you and spent half an hour reciting all the famous people he was descended from, would you suddenly fucking love him, or would you think he's a fucking arrogant faggot?
59b495 No.16015171
>>16015095
I don't agree. Semi permanent or straight up permanent claims based on ancestral legacies is both reasonable, historically friendly and not too OP considering it's a free CB at best.
59b495 No.16015185
>>16015095
>>16015171
Mind you, free CB's and maybe some more sex appeal or prestige are a far cry from being able to slaughter battleworn berzerkers six minutes out of the womb.
50a3b4 No.16015237
>>16015171
claims, yes, but that's all.
59b495 No.16015327
>>16015237
Maybe if they're not static? I believe HiP had bloodlines that changed with your ruler death so bad ones or even horrible relatives could ruin it for everyone. I mean, you agree that someone with the name Casanova would have less issues chasing skirts or that you'd think twice about fucking around with someone named McRapesyourfuckingskulluntilyoudie. Now whether the next generation lives up to the name is a different question and one that should have a mechanic to account for it.
68712e No.16015741
Anyone interested in regular Vicky MP with me and my friends?
cde836 No.16015793
>Mercenary War scenario playing as Carthage
>defeat mercenaries quite easily
>Rome wants Sardinia and Corsica
>tell them to fuck off
>we go to war
>decide to invade Sicily for shit and giggles
>this happens
Well, at least the scenario is almost over.
59b495 No.16015950
>>16015741
You don't get to bring friends
50a3b4 No.16015971
Is there any mod for Darkest Hour that actually fleshes out countries other than Germany? I'm bored as fuck of doing Barbarossa over and over again, so I'm trying to find a good mod for Italy or, prefferably, Japan, but none seem to do either too seriously beyond a few events. Also, AI Germany seems to be incapable of invading England even if there are no troops left there, and taking Englad as Japan just feels dirty.
c908a8 No.16016003
>>16015950
Don't worry no charge for them.
50a3b4 No.16016361
>>16015793
is the game fun?
b96859 No.16018258
These games are boring as shit but I just can't stop myself from wasting days at a time playing them.
bc8b88 No.16018305
cde836 No.16018386
>>16016361
I don't know yet. So far I've only played one scenario which was very short and limited in scale. I did play Revolution Under Siege before which uses the same engine and I enjoyed it so hopefully this game is fun as well.
>>16018305
Alea Jacta Est
Surprisingly enough the Romans actually launched an assault on Carthage itself. I was unable to stop them from besieging the city but the scenario ended the next turn anyway so it doesn't matter.
fc9369 No.16018507
997b08 No.16018541
>>16013389
>Irish ecumenopolis transported backward in time by 2000 years
That'd be a fun scenario.
f3340f No.16018857
>>16010304
Underrated post
fca386 No.16022009
Does anyone know why the EU3toVic2 converter would randomly stop working? It keeps giving me an "unhandled exception occured, sequence contains no matching element" error message every time I try to convert everything, even though the converter worked a week ago and nothing in my files had been changed.
2db56c No.16022012
775e34 No.16022030
>>16022009
This lil nigga gon be a baller yo
fca386 No.16022038
>>16022012
Please help man, I don't have the RAR I unzipped it from anymore, so if it's an issue with the files of the converter I'm up shit creek without a paddle. It wouldn't make sense for that to be the case anyway because I haven't altered the mod files.
The guy who made it appears to have scrubbed the converter off the internet aside from unusable github source code without a frontend exe file, also the only alternative to the converter I was using makes every country below 1820 start date tech a primitive nation and England into Canada.
775e34 No.16022041
>>16022038
>converter gets nuked just before I want to try it
fuck
fbecd5 No.16027218
>>15992215
You one of the Strasserfags?
8daf4d No.16027773
>playing WitE as epic Großgermania
>MP 1943 campagin
>I go on the defensive instead of attacking at Kursk
>mfw this noob tries to play the jewish bolsheviks like ebin Germaniums
>sends all his tanks south of lake Pskov and close enough for my recon planes to easily detect
>he tries to wedge between AGN and AGC by cutting through them and pushing to the Baltic sea
>mfw I let him push 150km then deploy my sneaky sneak SS and panzer divisions to cut him off
>mfw I smash 30,000 tanks and 800,000 men in the pocket, an additonal 1.5 million in my counteroffensive after the pocket was destroyed, then capture Leningrad and Moscow by October
>mfw he ragequits
92b29a No.16029000
>>16027773
>WitE
What mod/Game is that?
96301a No.16029258
>>16022009
Is this an abortion ;_;
92b29a No.16029546
>>16029511
I just realized what it was after posting it and now I feel fucking retarded.
fcbb8d No.16029684
As a non-binary pansexual communist furry with autism I really adore Paradox as a company and history teacher because of their cheap historically accurate games.
653867 No.16030568
What's the latest version of anon's mod for HFM?
653867 No.16030569
>>16030568
Ignore flag I was doing a thing.
f24048 No.16030591
3f2645 No.16030632
>>16029684
"cheap historically accurate" is too much. Just say 'Historically Authentic'.
9812bc No.16031343
>>16027773
I feel bad for you, that game sounds sick. It probably wasn't even over considering it was 1943, he might have had a chance at bouncing back.
30000 tanks tho lmao post pics
>>16029000
War in the East
38b43c No.16032721
>Want to play a gsg after a long time
>Start up CKII
>Find out a new version complete with new expansion is out
>Have to reinstall the base game and all the new hotfixes, etc. to play current version because lol I'm not paying for this shit
Why is it so hard to keep up to date? Why can't paradox just release a game and let it fucking be. Or right, because they don't know how to make a game and it not be shit without 6+ expansions under it's belt.
So, how's the new content? What is the new content?
38b43c No.16032731
>>16018258
>Stop Russia, you've gotten too bi-
<Holy shit, Japan keep fucking going!
5b1022 No.16032732
38b43c No.16032753
>>16032732
Thanks. Any news on the new Rome game? Do we have a release date yet?
0092d5 No.16033431
>>16031459
>>16031343
1943 is the last year where Germany can conduct major offensives. The rest of the game is basically Germany going on the defence against ever increasing amounts of Soviets who improve in quality as well as quantity over time. It also simulates the opening of the Italian and Western front by removing dozens of divisions and at least a thousand aircraft for shipment west. Germany's divisions also undergo TOE regorganization which is basically a reduction of your divisions strength due to the ever dwindling amounts of resources available. The only exception being the elite divisions and especially the elite SS divisions which get all the fancy shit like Tiger IIs and StG44s first while your infantry use their grandfathers (since you end up conscripting ever younger inexperienced troops) rusty Mauser G98 from WWI and inbred horses. The combination of the Soviets rapidly increasing in quantity and quality while the Germans decrease in both makes it so by autumn of 1944 a good Soviet player could capture Berlin and win the game.
However, with me capturing 30k tanks, I basically destroyed any chance of that happening. It's 1943 so those were T-34s, SUs, and KVs, not the garbage light tanks the Soviets have in 1941. And because they were captured, in a few months I would be able to field thousands of those in the Wehrmacht as repurposed equipment :^)
All he would be able to attack with are infantry now, since I destroyed 95% of his tanks. And those will get smashed by my panzer divisions in sitting in reserve position waiting to counterattack. He had no choice but to quit. The rest of the war would be WWI all over again with little movement anyways. The Soviet infantry corps get ever increasing amounts of AT equipment and they have air superiority as time goes on. So all my panzers are good in the late war for is hiding in a forest somewhere 10km behind the frontline and only appearing when the Soviets attack to blunt it with a counterattack. I "won" the game by creating a stalemate where neither of us could move. Of course by the game's calculation I won a major victory with the amount of land I held at game's end.
Grab this game when it's on sale if you think you have the autism required to play it.
It has a 300 page+ manual which will take you about 20 hours to memorize and digest by itself.And that's just the basics. Logistics is the hardest part which the manual just barely introduces. But its the most rewarding. I know exactly how far the bolshevik tanks could go on a full tank of gas and cut them off at the point where they would have nothing left. Thus even deploying shitty Romanian troops to guard the pocket was enough since if they did try to break out they would use whatever drops of fuel they had left. Thus even if they broke the seal, they couldn't move since they had no fuel. Then this pleb decides to airlift fuel but forgets to attach fighter escorts so they all get shot down. Such is life in Russia.
b96859 No.16034509
>>16032731
That's clearly the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, can't you tell?
6477fa No.16035842
>>16034509
So, why the hell didn't he reform into Russia? Also what's the deal with the HRE now-a-days? You're only able to reform and centralize it if you keep it decentralized? The fuck? Yes I know EU4 is crap but what else to play
7fcccd No.16036066
50d933 No.16036093
>>16033431
Considering you now had the Moscow rail nexus as well as a secured Leningrad front, aren't you giving him too much credit by saying it would be a stalemate? Or are the Axis latewar modifiers really that disproportionate, in spite of your success probably preempting the degradation they impose from happening?
I mean, 30,000 tanks of which a substantial portion are assault guns & breakthrough tanks seems like enough to go on making mini-pockets even as you keep the best and less disposable materiel in reserve. And the T-34s could be used more flippantly. His logistics should be in total shambles. And what muddy backcountry airfields will he have beyond the bounds of metropolitan Russia to actually leverage his aircraft advantage? Sure, his unit output will be unmitigated since it's from past the Urals, but with such a huge loss won't it be a trickle?
More importantly, why'd you agree to a '43 scenario anyways? From the little reading I did before, '41 is even or a little in Axis favor, '42 is the competitive middleground, and everything after is an exercise in losing more slowly against non-AI. Unless, you know, the Soviets decide to reverse-Kursk and fuck themselves. For some reason.
6477fa No.16036109
>>16036066
It's the same shit. And I already played it to death.
65b137 No.16036927
>>16035842
>but what else to play
Vicky 2
6477fa No.16036946
>>16036927
I'd rather hunt down Imperialism again
de8bf9 No.16036983
I want to say that CK2 with CK2+ and no other mods is a very good game and not a meme.
stop hurting my feelings, immediately
b96859 No.16037054
>>16035842
I assume they needed those two provinces in the Petrograd area to reform into Russia but the AI thought it was a good idea to eat Scandinavia instead. This is from EU3 Miscmods + DAO, not EU4.
954b73 No.16037271
>>16036983
Prepare to get bullied faggot: even when pozzed DLC is stripped off CK2 is still a meme game.
beede5 No.16037316
Never play shattered or randomized world with nomads ON. 100 years later half the map are steppenigger tengrists and Mary Sue descendants with maps that look like a butcher's shop.
38b43c No.16040377
Does anyone have a link to up to date CKII+? It doesn't look like it's in the folders and I only have one that was for 2.8.3 or something.
8d4f46 No.16040754
>>16040377
I'm going to do you a favor and not link it
9264ee No.16041176
>>16027218
Nah I abandoned Strasserism for German style NatPol and Pol Potism.
9264ee No.16041179
>>16041176
Meant to say "Natbol"
9264ee No.16041215
I also like Ungern a lot too
6bdbcb No.16041329
>>16036093
Well, it was a tactical stalemate as neither of us had the ability to conduct anymore large offensives for the remainder of the game, had we played to the end. The reasons for that are quite complex, as is everything with this autism simulator.
I deleted 30,000 tanks. Not even the USSR can recover from that. This alone destroyed his chances for speedy offensives. He just had infantry left. I destroyed over two million of those in my counter offensive. Despite that, he still had over a million men more than what I have, as well as the ability to make more. That numerical difference renders our strength roughly equal. He would not be able to conduct offensives until after he dragged a few million slavs out of the gulag and into divisions. So not until summer of 1944, at the absolute earliest. And even then he would only have enough strength for an offensive towards just one army group. With infantry only. Which is very slow and bloody. My panzer divisions can blunt them easily if they manage to dislodge some infantry. Their ammunition will be low, and fatigue high. An infantry only operation would just be a game of whack a mole where I just smack panzer divisions on top of little commie heads peeking through my lines over and over.
My divisions start getting transferred (removed) to the west to simulate the other theatres opening up. Half my airforce is gone with them. You end up having to give ground just to shorten your line in order to keep it properly manned. Otherwise it will have holes or God forbid you have to fill it with Romanians or Hungarians.
Their air superiority prevents me from engaging in large tank offensives. Air units get deadlier as the war goes on. In 1941, an air attack of 50 aircraft might kill 50. In 1944, it might kill 500. Aircraft automatically have an interdicting effect when they attack, reducing how much the attacked unit can move after its done. About 4-5 attacks on a panzer division will immobilize it and maybe wipe out 100 tanks. However, their air superiority doesn't effect me much on the defensive. Units who sit in an area will automatically dig entrenchments. An entrenched unit takes much less casualties from aircraft.
All that said, it was a strategic victory. But that can't be simulated here since there is no diplomacy to tell you that.
I also went with 1943 since it was his first MP game as the commies, while I have lots of experience as the Germans. We wanted to just play until the winter of 1943 so he could learn a bit in a scenario which is quite balanced in terms of overall strength between the two sides for that year at least.
96301a No.16044667
>>16041176
>mens penises are connected to nothing
what is the sun
c3164e No.16045034
EU4 is so broken and I am not even talking about the current patch but in general.
I know the latest version is basically unplayable, so I figured I will only play an hour or so and then I will leave the game on observe in the background while I work on other stuff, never done this before. So what's a good challenge for this?
Make Byzantium Great Again of course, using Hungary. I crushed the Ottos, Hungary was a GP and Byz had everything in the Balkans except Romania/Serbia plus about 4 provinces in Asia Minor. Countries were allies with high trust, but heavily spent MP and money so absolutely relying on each other… except their missions give perma claims on each other. Now I know that does not always mean the AI turns hostile against the other country.
Well shit, after I quit in 1500 they rivalled each other, Hungary rekd Byz, 100 years both were only few province minors and eventually got annexed (Ottos too by Karaman, they were bankrupt in 1500).
But watching the AI "play" with no FoW is an eye opener. Sure you notice the AI is dumb when playing but you cannot pay attention to it in full when managing your own country. They die to the shittiest rebels, the overextension mechanic (a simple scaler) absolutely wrecks expansionist middle powers, and well yes - they keep marching their armies into stack-wipe situations which ultimately decides wars. They don't weigh alliances properly as shown above.
It's not just humans being smarter than the AI. It's the AI cannot survive the rules of the game and the winners are basically the last rebels standing, when their neighbours are too poor to react.
fd9417 No.16045076
>>16045034
Not to play the devil's advocate but the AI will never, ever take overextension unless you force feed your vassal. And what do you mean by shittiest rebels? Pretenders, particularist, revolutionaries? Peasants?
50d933 No.16045262
>>16041329
Alright, it's a reiteration, but it makes sense. His units can't make headway because they're shit. Your units can't make headway because there's not enough to spare and debuff modifiers plus number disparity even the field unless he really fucks up, so 'muh 30,000 tanks' don't mean much. Still, I'm curious as to how much of this was really set in stone with the depth in play here. Say that you had both chosen to go on. Do you think piecemeal mini-blitzes, either on attack or counterattack, could go in your favor? 'Major' offenses are precluded by air power attrition, and any of his offensives are basically fucked from the outset. But would there be any flexibility to this front after an initial settling in period? Can you wrest the initiative back on your own terms, or would he have to seriously bungle things again?
What would the Eastern forever war start looking like once you get to '44 or '45 with regular Army units disappearing in favor of a gaggle of SS and co-belligerent line fillers? Would you shorten the line, or try to hold most the ground you've taken while repeating the previous retreat-and-encircle defense gambit? What are your chances to make sneeki attacks to encircle & eat a hex or two or three of units in a localized offensive fashion? Almost like trench raiding, but with tanks and on an operational scale? All tanks forward, big fuckoff encirclement is logistically untenable, but could you take the losses of smaller efforts- potentially lessened by juggling fighters for local air superiority, and maybe concentrating SPAA- to whittle the Soviets down and keep the standstill out of their favor? Is there any meaningful counter to the raising standard of AT weaponry/field guns in their divisions? Could this ever lead to a Soviet operational breakdown, or is the opposite more likely just due to the out-of-your-hands attrition from division pullouts? Or could you have gamed the pullouts by intentionally using the units that're going to disappear offmap as roughly as you can before they go poof?
When's Gary Grigsby going to make a unified campaign game, anyways? I've heard War in the West has some substantial improvements over War in the East engine wise, but I feel simply porting the old to the new would be a waste compared to a merger. Both fronts plus North Africa & the Levant, at least.
21db91 No.16045270
c3d683 No.16045365
>>16041176
>Our wombs are connected to the moon and the ocean and mens penises are connected to nothing
So the strength of a man's cock is his own? Nice.
c55fa6 No.16045550
>>16045076
They did not have enough armies to handle the rebels with countries so big, they could have infinite troops (mercs or ArmyPro, whatever), when the revoltrisk was high due to conquering/WE.
And by shitty rebels, I mean mostly the standard separatists. But saw basically all kinds of rebels winning in medium-sized countries. When you see the province revolt risks, you can always tell when and where a rebellion is going to happen, is it going to be covered by forts, what size etc.
If you can't handle it you can still harsh treatment them, or worst case scenario increase autonomy. AI does none of these, when it has no troops left, even though it could hire some to hold on to the conquests.
954093 No.16045934
>>16003578
Which game is that?
dcb41e No.16046132
>>16045034
Parashitters cannot make a good AI to save their lives. It's utterly retarded in every game they make and they never actually improve it (despite claims on the contrary). I think the strait update that happened several DLCs back is the biggest eye-opener on their design philosophy
>players keep gaming the Bosphorus to block Ottoman armies from crossing, and thus survive as BYZ
<let's change the way the strait works so you need to block it with ships AND control at least one of the crossing provinces! Let's also plop a fort down on the Ottoman province there so that they can't capture it before the turkish army crosses
Instead of fixing the AI to deal with that shit, change the game rules.
fd9417 No.16046164
>>16046132
Yeah, but he's talking out of his ass. The AI is definitely not something to write home about but they specifically built failsaves to prevent exactly what he's talking about. The AI will never of it's own volition go over it's overextention cap and even if it somehow does, for example you force fed him some lands or something, it straight up cheats to avoid that. He's not qualified for the worst rebel sentiment events, his unrest it lowered for every difficulty level including easy and he'll never run out of manpower unless you, as a player intentionally bleed him out during years and years of occupation.
cde836 No.16046274
>>16045262
>When's Gary Grigsby going to make a unified campaign game, anyways?
WitE 2 is in development, but I don't think it's going to introduce western front. They're at least expanding the map to Karelia. Only for multiplayer though.
cfe636 No.16047848
>>16046164
I'm not talking about overextension cap. It's the overextension mechanic that's always there while you're coring.
Also, check the ledger sometimes. You'd be surprised to see how often England, Ottos, Timurids etc. are constantly on 0 MP and dozens or hundreds of mercs. There's no AI to handle rebels and hold onto conquests.
Even if you get destroyed and your army wiped in a war, and see a separatist swarm coming after you've peaced, its a no brainer to take loans, use the estates or ease recruitment because losing your land to rebels is so dumb. You don't notice it so much when playing, I only did when observing.
da62e0 No.16048168
>>16047848
The separatism sentiment events and such don't happen if you're bellow the 100% cap. And they really get ugly once you're past 199%. The AI will NEVER take more land than 99%, rounded down. And even if he somehow does he's literally immune to that shit unless he's your vassal. Cheap cheating but what can you do, it's the civilization tier bullshit design. Now, I don't really care whether he'll implode after being bullied in a bad war or not. I haven't played multiplayer all that much since they patched that cracked game workaround in Dharma but I can't tell you how many times I've seen a player do the exact same thing.
You don't punch above your weight, pace yourself and you'll be fine.
>england
I'll give you this. For some reason England/UK, Russia, Denmark and Spain always suck. Moronically so. But I don't believe I've ever seen any of them spontaneously balkanize as they would in Knights of Honor or something. Ottomans or Mughals though, will cause issues.
>are constantly on 0 MP and dozens or hundreds of mercs
That's how most players are playing as well, ain't it? Waiting for manpower early game is too much of a pain and later on it's a bad joke to suffer 100s of thousands on attrition alone.
8daf4d No.16054572
>>15978465
Just a reminder, this deal is still valid.
384250 No.16054767
>>15978465
>>16054572
Well, let's see if you're a man of your word, laddie.
8f4206 No.16054938
>>15939439
I'm really enjoying Total War mod for Hoi4 as Japan
Hope they keep adding more focus trees
I want to try out Finland against Soviets
4f0137 No.16055838
8286f1 No.16058412
>>16054767
I can upload it, but unfortunately the .exe seems to be tied to steam and wont open the game without verifying via steam. I have no idea how to crack it since I'm not slav. Do you still want me to upload it?
Maybe one of you knows how to do it.
8286f1 No.16058418
>>16058412
It's related to steam_api.dll. If someone knows how to crack it, tell me and I'll try.
8286f1 No.16058425
>>16058287
>not capturing Moscow in August
I sure hope you chose the pleb babby option of (((mild))) winter or else you will be pushed back to Vitebsk during their winter counter offensive based on your line.
9c39d5 No.16058476
8643d1 No.16058502
>>16058425
How? My tank armies ran out of fuel and I stalled out against the Stalin line. Particularly getting the cyan tank army across the Dnepr took a turn or two and so much fuel I couldn't get a good pincer on Smolensk. I was tempted to commit the other AGC tank army against Leningrad but that seemed too far to move the tanks. I guess I'll play it out and see how fucked I am during winter.
d67cfa No.16058506
>>16058425
The lack of sweden in the map triggers me
38b43c No.16058575
CK2 is so boring without Plus. I hope they release it soon.
8286f1 No.16061048
>>16058502
>couldnt pincer Smolensk
That's why you silly nog. AGC has two tank armies and all movements east should be pincer movements. If you can snap Minsk > Smolensk > Vyazma shut in traps quickly enough, they can't build or transport enough troops to stop you.
The same goes for AGS. Pincer Lvov > Kiev > Crimea and they will be smashed there.
Only AGN has difficulty doing this quickly enough because of the terrain, inadequate space to maneuver, and lack of troops. However, that's not an issue if you can destroy their center. You then can just veer upwards up a panzer army from Moscow and cut off Leningrad from the east. If you look at my previous post, the only large concentration of red dots on the minimap are in the north. Their center and south was shattered. After the infantry caught up with those panzer divisions, I sent them north and cut Leningrad from the east and it was game over.
c35478 No.16063085
If any of you is a pleb like me who wants to get into Victoria 2, it doesn't seem to be that hard once you got the hang out of it. Russia is probably a good choice for trying out the game. Maximize all taxes and tariffs (the effective tax and tariff will remain bearable) I'm uncertain of which techs are most useful, presumably ones boosting economy since Russia starts out as Great Power and as such, prestige rushing isn't necessary. Persia is easy to sphere diplomatically once you discover the influence interface from diplomacy screen. Other neighbors seem to hate you despite raising relations to the max. Also influence bordering Chinese substates. Lowering your army maintenance may not be same kind of money-saver like in EU4 since the money you pay for suppliers goes back to your economy if you produce your own supplies.
afe8a1 No.16063202
>>16063085
Did they ever fix that game? I absolutely love the period but I distinctly remember the pops and the shit mechanics that revolved around them being, well, shit.
c13a50 No.16063631
>>16063202
>Did they ever fix that game?
No but modders did (to the greatest extent they can, really)
Try Anon's HFM Edits in the OP (on top of HFM)
67db5c No.16065117
>trying to move from 4x to grand strategy
>think HOI4 because I heard it was a casual version of HOI3 so it doesn't intimidate me as much
>play it and learn the game, finish the tutorial and continue to play Italy
>have fun
>come here to see if its talked about
>mfw
fug
2a7839 No.16065149
>>16065117
>trying to move from 4x to grand strategy
>>15957817
>But HoI4 isn't a gsg either you imbecile
I guess you need to pick another game.
67db5c No.16065159
>>16065149
Well I play rts and 4x. Just trying to pick up gsg would be a better way of saying it.
c908a8 No.16065162
>>16065117
>trying to move from 4x to grand strategy
>picks HOI4
2a7839 No.16065171
>>16065162
By now HoI4 has more active players than EU4. At least on steam.
c13dc3 No.16065184
>>16065171
Popular does not equal good anon.
c908a8 No.16065186
>>16065171
>By now HoI4 has more active players than EU4
And this is relevant how?
67db5c No.16065216
Not shitposting but curious, why is it that most people here hate HOI4? From what I gathered in this thread I've got
>Ugly
and
>Historically Inaccurate
Wanna know what exactly is inaccurate since I haven't played much of it. What else?
2a7839 No.16065306
>>16065184
I didn't say that.
>>16065186
This is why new people that want to play grand strategies are likely to end up playing HoI4. Because it is the most popular cancer currently.
>>16065216
It is a meme game and that's not even a joke. Also you just need to draw a line on your touch screen and win.
c02f79 No.16065317
>>16065216
Just look at images of world maps on your search browser.
9812bc No.16065437
>>16058425
Try getting 100 km past moscow in mp hans
5b1022 No.16065718
Anybody have any interesting starts in CK2? I've played as Persian Zoro and restored Persia and also played as HRE up from Thuringii in the WTWSMS mod but not much else beside occasionally raping the world as Byzantium because of the ridiculous levies you get
38b43c No.16065762
>>16065718
Playing anything but something interesting is boring. Once I was playing welsh and kicked the anglos out of England, even converting the culture. I almost got to London when I stopped playing and now that I come back I can't play it because of the new update, so I'm just waiting for Plus to catch up because the game is boring as fuck without it.
Another time I played ancient aryans in the Tarim Basin and recreated the Bactrian Empire.
Another time I Reconquista'd.
Now I'm planning on we wuzing to Jerusalem from Ethiopia.
5b1022 No.16065863
>>16065762
I was thinking about recreating the Himyarite Kingdom in Yemen or maybe the restoring the Hephthalite Empire
38b43c No.16066159
>>16065863
What I really want to do with the new expansion is revive Hellenism, but every time I try, the Emperor revokes all my titles.
I guess I can try to keep Zunism alive in the East.
In any case, this game really isn't worth playing until the mods are up to date.
38b43c No.16066165
>>16063085
V2 is easy when you learn to proper balance of spending and everything. You basically have the same game every time, just in different parts of the map.
9264ee No.16066779
9264ee No.16066788
9264ee No.16066799
>>15992229
We're currently shitting ourselves in the states, unless you like accelerationism.
>>15992829
I never knew the difference but whatever. When is that fag gonna make his Galimulator thread?
dcb41e No.16067259
>>16065117
HoI series are wargames, not gsgs. The difference is small enough for them to be discussed here anyway, but the fact it's a disctinct group of games should still be noted.
If you want something like HoI4 but not dogshit, pick up Darkest Hour. It doesn't have the HQ autism of HoI3 and managed to be relatively easy to learn (you don't need to know ALL the mechanics to be able to play it – you'll learn them as you go). If you want a casual grand stategy game, pick up vanilla CK2 or EU4 – you'd need to be practically braindead to actually lose those.
8da71a No.16067514
>>16067259
>learn muh genre pronouns
Essentially, you're a nitpicking cocksucker and not a sucker of cocks with nitpicking tendencies?
dcb41e No.16067543
>>16067514
>lol why, like, give words any meaning?
8da71a No.16067673
>>16067543
Oh, I'm sorry. You're just a garden variety homo.
dbcd17 No.16069813
Distant Worlds feels so unfinished and I don't know why
dcb41e No.16072234
>>16069813
It's because there's little to no flavour. Lots of good mechanics, but little in the way of roleplay
7eab07 No.16072326
>>16069813
>>16072234
You can set your own win conditions to economy/population/area. There are race based victory conditions with variety. You can combine them and whatever. There also scripted stories.
cde836 No.16072483
>>16067259
>HoI series are wargames, not gsgs.
.t someone who's never played wargame in their life
dcb41e No.16072530
>>16072483
<wargame
>focused solely on military matters – peacetime mechanics being either absent or negligible – and usually taking place within the span of one war
<grand strategy game
>focused on both military and peacetime mechanics, trade, internal legislation and country management in general. Can take place within virtually any timespan.
38b43c No.16075581
This has been the most difficult challenge play I have ever done. Viking Start, play as Saxon Otto I. First thing I do is marry a Karling and declare independence from East Francia, using West Francia marriage to fight them off for me.
Then, because I have only one measly county, I start organizing my realm around. Everyone eventually hates me, coupled with Francia's contant wars I have to fight in, so I take them out one by one. Eventually I have a stable realm and am able to expand a little. East Francia is weak now that I went after them with West, so I start taking counties. I flesh a couple things out a little more, and this took all night.
Plan is to usurp East Kingdom along with a self-made Kingdom and Eastward expansion until I can HRE. But that's not even my goal. I want to be German. I want to be the most German you could possibly be. So I'm converting to Germanic and reforming that shit, so I can be culture: German. Religion: German. Reich: Germany.
I'm making a Pagan HRE.
7827c2 No.16075602
>>16075581
Playable pagans shat up that game so much. Oh look, I'll start in blobbing wet dream start and then I'll blob up Whooptie fucking do. B-But it's fine because nazi memes!
For fucks sake.
fc9369 No.16075703
>>16075581
>CK2
>challenging
I use CK2 and my primary non-hentai source of fap material.
dcb41e No.16075807
>>16075581
>this shit
>challenging
If you want an actual challenge in CK
>start as a wiking in England
>conquer it
>reform faith
>blob into scandianvia
>estabilish bridgehead in netherlands
>all the at low enough crown authority for vassals to blob on their own into other countries
<switch to play as a christian count in BYZ
<watch as the ridiculosuly OP pagan realm starts blobbing literally everywhere with zero real opposition
<shit yourself as muslims do the same
<between a rock and a hard place
<try eliminating both threats now and return Europe under Jesus
constant Jihad/great holy war spam against you, since BYZ sits neatly right in between them, so they won't war each other but will war you instead. For added challenge, make sure to only hand out titles to your dynasty while playing the vikings, so that when you switch and some king-tier vassal wars you, the entire fucking country (except the emperor) wars you due to family alliances and all that shit.
7827c2 No.16075821
>>16075807
How this for a challenge? Every time one takes a county they smack themselves over the head with a ballpeen hammer. Challenging gameplay for them, and less CK2 reddit leakage for the rest of us.
8643d1 No.16075894
>>16065306
>Also you just need to draw a line on your touch screen and win.
Just play multiplayer, anyone who tries to draw a line past Moscow and leave their army to do their thing will be watching Berlin fall in less than a year.
192a4e No.16078616
From one to 1 to 10 how cursed are those images?
38b43c No.16079071
>>1607580
Yes, it's the most challenging I've done. CK2 is easy as shit.
38b43c No.16079693
Okay, so maybe "difficult" wasn't the right word. Perhaps I meant "Most complicated".
7bafd0 No.16079810
>>16079795
I remember playing my first game and winning after 45 minutes, the AI did everything automatically and I pretty much just clicked OK and nothing else. Also the font is borderline unreadable like in EU4.
65b137 No.16080207
65b137 No.16080477
>>16063085
>sphering uncivs
There's no point. What sphering does is it establishes a common market between you and your sphereling. Uncivs can't research technologies that improve RGO efficiency, so you will get much less resources from sphering them than from direct conquest. You can't control their ruling party either, and if they have one with centralized economic policy you won't be able to build railways inside their territory. However, their pops can still suck up goods that should be going to your citizens. This is good if you have a good that's overproduced and seek new markets for it, by sphering a country you can force it to buy it from you and not someone else. But you're Russia and you have a huge population, so producing enough goods to satisfy even your domestic market will be difficult. So you're just making pops in other countries happier at the cost of your own.
What I usually do as Russia is I reduce China to what it looked like under Ming by conquering Xinjiang, Mongolia and Manchuria. It's not the most efficient way to spend infamy, but it makes sense from RP standpoint and looks nice on the map. Xinjiang and Mongolia are also particularly easy to settle with Russians because of their low population and I can easily take Korea if I ever run into coal or iron shortages. Likewise I prefer taking Persia's northern and central provinces to make the Caspian Sea my Mare Nostrum, but conquering the whole of it also works if I can spare the infamy.
50a3b4 No.16080541
>>16079795
Anon, do you not know what flavour is? It's text like lore, events, decisions, etc. that might have very little impact on the mechanics of the game, but help you immerse yourself in it and roleplay. I don't dispute that distant worlds has plenty of different mechanics and details, but it has very little flavour
b41b56 No.16080552
aside from anon's edits for hfm, are there any other victoria 2 mods I should use?
7bafd0 No.16082048
>>16080552
Blood and Iron is the best one there is, in my opinion.
55fa38 No.16082140
>>16082048
thanks anon, it doesnt seem to be updated anymore though
would it work with hfm? if not is there a way to integrate it to anon's edits?
7bafd0 No.16082174
>>16082140
There's no way it would work with HFM but you could maybe integrate some features but I don't know anything about Vicky 2 modding so I couldn't tell. Also I just noticed that the mod hasn't been updated in half a year but the Dev has made long pauses before so maybe (hopefully) he'll come back.
55fa38 No.16082386
>>16082174
yeah me neither, maybe it'd be like the israel minimod where I would just need to add the new stuff to the bottom of the text to work, maybe not
anyways the mods does have pretty neat aditions, havent played it yet but judging from the moddb page it at least looks decent
f52214 No.16082396
>>16082140
> it doesnt seem to be updated anymore though
That doesn't matter, because Vicky isn't updated anymore. There's a B&I for the newest Vicky.
7bafd0 No.16082410
>>16082386
It's really nice, it's basically Vanilla but with more content and some much needed tweaks.
55fa38 No.16082447
>>16082396
I know that but the mod is still on beta so surely the dev will add more stuff some day
38b43c No.16082847
If I can just catch East Francia when they're not at war I can usurp it and finally create HRE. After which, I can finally convert to pagan. Then hopefully I can just give France to one of my sons and give them independence so the map doesn't look retarded.
6778fc No.16082859
>>16082847
>my first blob
>validate me
Who gives a shit?
38b43c No.16082879
>>16082859
See you tomorrow.
6778fc No.16082913
>>16082879
Now, now. With some luck I may suffer a brain aneurysm and won't have to suffer your faggotry every again.
94671a No.16086318
Making epic Grobgermanias is still my favorite thing to do after all these years.
38b43c No.16086827
I like the new pagan reformation mechanic, but it's ass that Animism nullifies the +30 levy germanic gets. At least, I think it does. I did some experiments and the +30 modifier is missing after choosing animism, but I didn't notice any decrease in the actual number of available levy. I'll have to experiment with this some more tomorrow. Also, now that you can choose proselytizing focus, you can actually stand a chance against 100% moral authority Catholicism.
I want to just hand everything west of the Rhine over to France, but there is some German culture in Lotharingia I need to protect. Pagans cannot declare duchy ducal wars, so it's going to be a lot slower grabbing one county at a time. Dream is almost complete. Reformed Germanic HRE with a German culture. Gotta return Europe to it's indigenous religion. I'll also steam roll Pomerania to Danzig for good measure. It's going to be a nice map.
19966a No.16086983
>>16082174
Its not dead tho, I think one update took 9 months or something. I'm just busy and/or lazy
39e402 No.16089531
On a scale from CK2 to Stellaris, how shit is Imperator gonna be?
Apparently it's selling like hotcakes on Steam.
d95d49 No.16089544
3c8b60 No.16090187
>>16089531
Looks like palate swapped EU4 to me.
9075ee No.16091038
Here's a link to the HIP Holy Fury beta release if anyone is interested. It's buggy as fuck at the moment.
http://hip.zijistark.com/releases/furry_beta_latest.pl
248251 No.16091563
>>16089531
It's literally just fucking EU4. I'm fucking tired of that, can't paradox just fucking make something halfway decent, with actual fucking effort and history rather then half-assing it? If your going to make a historical title, put as much fucking effort into it as possible, people don't want this 2-3 year inbetween of release dates, people can fucking wait!
Fuck me, I'm betting everyone's going to open their mouth for Imperator's shit, fall in love with it, and then a year later people will bitch on it… Fucking Paradox is nothing more then a bunch of money-hungry jews wanting to take advantage of a market of people who like history+strategy, and have a practical monopoly over it.
61fffa No.16095474
>>15939439
Whose bright idea it was to require IE with Distant Worlds? Going to have to find some way to install IE on Wine.
8643d1 No.16096952
Anyone want to play a War In the East PBEM game? I'd be willing to play either Grobgermanium or dirty Bolshevists.
38b43c No.16098434
>>16091038
Waiting for CK2+
5db962 No.16099090