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Asking my question again since it wasn't answered last thread.

I want to do Gongenzaka's story on Tag Force Special but I don't know what deck could compete with the ai's bullshit without cucking his deck's specialty of "No magic or trap cards in the graveyard."

>>15909269

Play Super Heavies yourself? Some form of Lightsworns? Some dumb Pendulum spam deck. Sure you don't need a particularly good deck to win?

Any interesting decks come out recently?

>>15908906

Post it, I fucking dare you.

>>15908906

I don't get it….

>>15909269

Just play Superheavies. They ain't that bad…

>>15908838

>Tag Force Special (2015) is the best to play for learning the game with many of the new cards.

Wait what. They released a Tag Force game in 2015? On the PSP? What is this madness?

>>15910564

>>15910015

You're both definitely right about Super Heavies, there's absolutely nothing wrong with them, I just wanted something that isn't using his archetype.

>>15910589

Yes, TFS, probably the last Tag Force game that anyone will get. It's JP only but a translation patch exists for emulation.

Oh hey…new Super Quantums

They should make an all female anime where losing life points destroy parts of their clothes

>>15923327

>>15923343

AM will never be good unless they give them discard effects so they are not huge bricks.

Well, I suppose they are a group of boss monsters that are not ment to be in a single deck.

The new spell is good but it only summons from the hand. It is a quick play so that is fair, I suppose.

They need a spell that lets you summon the Assault Mode monster from the Deck/GY/Hand.

Make it searchable while you are at it.

>>15923480

You can make a deck viable with bricks, its that assault mode makes you run a lot of bricks instead of a few(activate+the assault mode).

AM has basically always been a dedicated deck because otherwise its inconsistent and the new support isn't really making that much better outside of psychics.

https://ygorganization.com/iaccidentallyuploadedamemewhileuploadingimagessonowtheresamemeinthesitedatabaseyoullneversee/

Realistically any AMA alternatives will be searchable due to mention AMA in it; and this searches for those cards.

>>15923523

It will take a lot to make it work but hey, more synchro related stuff is always good.

>>15923343

>>15923327

Ideally with this what you'd do is thanks to the new PSI cheating out stardust with assault mode activate.

you use reboot to make Halberd, then use call of the haunted or return to the front line to bring back stardust and just assault mode again.

An expert in the Zefra archetype ? Do you have a,deck for late December ?

>>15915502

nah i just played my arcana force the world otk cause it's the only safe way i know how to satisfy my gambling addiction.

also sick music anon, though i prefer forbidden memories.

How would you fix current yugioh? Cause I would at least try to.

>>15927269

16,000 LP. Some sort of floodgate on special summoning.

>>15927282

But there is. No much point to use it instead of Percy, though.

>>15927301

>>15927332

Links don't limit extra deck special summoning, but special summoning as a whole.

inb4 Yosenju type decks all over the place.

Is Duel Links discussion allowed here or is there some other place/thread I have to go to for that?

>>15928193

I see no reason to not do it here. We ultra slow anyways.

>>15927269

Not only can the starting player not attack, but damage to the opponent's lifepoints can't be dealt until their opponent's first turn.

Fire whoever wrote the PSCT and named the Skyfang Brigade.

>>15928643

That kills FTKs but still leave us with Gumblar hand Loops.

Although that could be solved by just banning Gumblar

>>15928659

Right, I was just suggesting a few of the things they could do that would help along the way. Frankly speed duels have possibly the only way to fix the game in any real way within them: Ban literally everything and start from scratch and don't print the broken shit.

>>15921887

>more anons that actually fucking have a clothing ripping fetish

I want to systematically kill off every retarded prude until this is possible. Good for nothing mentally ill shit.

>>15927332

>>15927343

>let's make floodgate shit even worse instead of just a hard 3 cap on all Extra Deck monsters

You need to just fuck off.

>>15928701

There's absolutely nothing wrong about vanilla porn. Degenerate scum.

>>15928758

Who said sexily ripping off clothes couldn't be vanilla, you faggot?

>>15921887

Does gaining LP restore their clothes? When they restore their LP over the amount they started with, do they gain armor or something?

>the vampire player is an eternal cocktease

>>15926738

Thanks, I actually had a nearly all FM music soundtrack until recently. I'd add some Capsule Monster Coliseum but I don't know where to find extended tracks for it.

>>15927269

make it illegal to win turn 1

>>15930208

Losing LP is painful.

Gaining LP pleasures them.

So…how viable is a Reptillane/Venom combo?

>>15938072

About as viable as the decks individually at this point tbh.

Which means not at all

>>15938084

Aww….damn meta…

>>15938332

Literally all manual card sims are filled with retards from what i've seen.

>>15938332

Cards that have state-based protection for their activation are extraordinarily rare, for good reason.

Under a more practical interpretation of the rules he'd be right because no card text should be active until it is in play, uncontested, and revealed to the other player, so a card that negates card activation would prevent 'this card's activation and effect cannot be negated' from becoming relevant in the first place.

>>15931300

Every turn has to take 30 seconds or less or you are thrown off the nearest bridge. Call it Blitzioh.

So what makes yu-gi-oh interesting compared to other card games?

>>15938979

But you have to run Silent Swordsman though….

>>15940706

Silent Swordsman and Magician are my fav designs with how they look just sleek in blue, wish they actually had their own archetype design to play them over them being 2 meh tech choices which don't go in the same decks.

>>15939383

Yeah I wouldn't want it to become a common place for state-based protection on spells and traps.

>>15940706

OK, regular Silent Swordsman is OK…I guess.

>>15939876

No complicated resource management, and any card you have in your hand you can play with. The only real limit to the amount of silly things you can play on any given turn are the small number of spaces on the field itself. Games are, as a result fast, and favor johnny strategies of comboing into combos into combos, occasionally interrupting the other players' combos or working around their comboes for your own combos.

There is no set rotation, and thereby any card in the game that isn't outright banned is fair game. This means a lot of old and outdated cards get their moment in the spotlight due to the meta of the moment favoring it, and thematically, the lore is a big grab bag of dissimilar elements that almost take pride in how disconnected yet related they are. Look at all the different concepts and themes that go into the Zefra archetype, and you can see how much sheer variety a yugioh player can see. (Even if not all of them are equally competitively viable.)

>>15941220

>>15939876

To add onto that, they hyped up a card in the anime, being a perfect counter to the Link monsters that kept being introduced, the Links being Attack Position only monsters that can be summoned very easily and thus dominated the meta of the VRAINS season anime.

That card was Mirror Force. A really, REALLY old and outdated card that got outmoded when sets were released as archetypes, so Mirror Force got outmoded as well, being a generic defence card that didn't lead into any other plays despite having a devastating effect on paper, that being to fuck up Attack position monsters.

Links are easy to get onto the board, but no other cards at current tend to bring them BACK when they leave outside of Monster Reborn and Soul Charge, which are limited to one per deck at current.

So, at least in the anime's meta, the Mirror Force card was a fucking shock and wrecked a bunch of character's decks.

>>15941273

I'm kinda wary about discussing the anime's metagame to talk about the real life game's meta, cause remember those Glad Beasts episodes in the middle of arc-5?

>>15941313

Yeah 10+ years after doing nothing.

Vrains has Zoodiac in the background when it was still killing people left and right.

>>15941919

Crashes on my machine.

>>15942343

Shit realy? Should I compress it into a zip and then change the filename to .swf? Or maybe I should just renane to .pdf?

Lads, we should do a fucking tournament one of these days. I want to duel against fellow spergs.

>>15943286

I don't know, but I think we should also have specific ruling before we even think when are we starting the tourney. What are your opinions?

>>15943318

Meta should be obviously banned so anons don't just bring in netdecked tourney winners and win, but we shouldn't just ban every card in those archetypes because there might be petdecks that benefit from using those cards for engines and such. I think it's okay as long as you don't use the boss monster(s) of that archetype, otherwise it's just a hybrid featuring that archetype. We could probably also unban cards that were only hit to change the meta or are only banned/limited because Konami doesn't particularly care about unbanning them, for instance I doubt that El Shaddoll Construct is that much of a threat since you can just pop it with Utopia The Lightning (if I understand the effect correctly). Our best bet is probably to introduce gradual changes to the rulings so when we discover some crazy exploit that the official rulings don't have to deal with, it only affects one tournament so we can remove it as fast as we find it.

>>15943487

Whoops, there's a 4th ojama red in the extra deck. Try to imagine as if it was never there in the first place.

>>15943500

side*

I need some sleep.

>>15943487

Well you're not really using meta anything so it's good on that front. The latter part of my previous post isn't really a concrete ruling, so it doesn't have any effect on your deck's legality. Yeah, I think you're going to be okay. But damn, you're not even using Ojama Pajama?

>>15910561

they're at a subway, and the cheetah or what ever the fuck is pushing out a big fucking turd on a footlong

>>15943536

Why would I want to get Ojama Pajama if I'm not running an ABC deck or a heavily based armed dragon deck?

>>15943581

So you can search any Ojama card in your deck and/or instantly activate Ojamagic?

>>15943665

>I can activate Ojamagic through Ojamatching and Ojama Country. I think what you say would bloat the deck.

Then get rid of Ojamatching. Honestly I don't understand why people run it anyway, way too much dedication required and way too much risk of turning your starting hand into a sloppy mess. Really only useful if you're gunning for Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon memes in my opinion. Get rid of that second Delta Hurricane, too. I don't know what you're even doing with Axe of Despair, either swap with one United we Stand or don't run it at all. Drowning Mirror Force is a better Mirror Force, and Battle Fader is a better Sphere Kuriboh. I'd run one Ojama Duo if at all, you really do not want to let your opponent plus.

>Any recommendations on the link or XYZ monsters I should add?

At least two Sandayu is a must. They were godly back during ZEXAL era, and they still can get you out of loads of shitty situations.

>>15943842

>you really do not want to let your opponent plus

Most of the times I send it to the GY using Ojama Country. And when I use it normally, it's because I have either raigeki or Ojama Delta Hurricane. I suppose that if I had Ojamuscle I could benefit more from it.

>>15943103

I'm not playing linkshit even with some anons. Unless they actually made the previous rules a separate thing, I'm not bothering.

Master rule 3 is still a format.

>>15944152

Where? I'm not finding anything.

>>15944217

People are still playing on the older, pre-links percy. You're left with the meta as defined by master peace spam, but it's pretty comfy.

>>15943465

How do you judge later cards like Odd-Eyes Arc Pendulum Dragon?

>>15943103

An idea I had for that is you just make a bunch of average structure deck tier decks and anons picked from those to play with.

Then every anon joins a challonge or something under a name which they tie to the deck they've picked and do like a double elimination style bracket to ensure everyone in gets 2 games in at least.

Issues came from who's making these decks and would anons be up for playing with decks that are purposely under powered and not what they themselves have made.

Also the dude making them would surely have to be banned from competing to ensure they don't sneak in MU destroying cards in their proffered deck.

Not to mention needing an agree'd on time.

As a positive aspect since you're making a format in a vacuum of decks a ban list could be ignored which could help in balancing builds but also if they're not all made combo central people not to big into the game could join in.

>>15944772

I don't understand what you mean by that.

Somebody PLEASE post the "candle of fate" or whatever it's called images. You know the one if you've got it.

>>15945794

Now that i think about it, Arsenal is too much for structure decks isn't it?

>>15945794

Preferably things that aren't archetype based in the slightest. Just so anons can just look at all the decks without having to learn how a sub set of deck works.

Stuff like Wall of Light Structure or Lair of darkness structure, less being an archetype and more cards who share similar end goals.

Also designed so no deck has a potential combo or monster when pulled off none of the other decks or even just half are now stuck with no out to them.

>>15945752

The guy left? I'd be staying to prove him wrong…just to say "Guess the Candle decided YOUR fate"

>>15945811

>no archetypes

You might as well be playing goat format or 2005 structure decks or something. I thought your first idea was okay even though it robs anons of the freedom to experiment with their decks and truly make it their own, which is something I believe is one of the greatest strengths of yugioh. But this just isn't a good idea at all. Archetypes exist to enhance differing playstyles. Without them there will only be one optimum deck to use, because all the decks would be so incredibly samey that there's no reason to use anything except the most optimum build anyway. It wouldn't even be yugioh anymore at that point.

>>15908906

>all 5 at once

you're fucking gay and deserve a ban

>>15945919

That's pretty gay.

>>15945917

I disagree on it might as well being goat format but it used to be a much more common thing for a good long time to use generics to push a game plan over having the archetypes internal plays push for it.

Like quickdraw synchro which begins and ends the synchron plays as having tuning, quickdraw and drill warrior (maybe 1 destroyer if it was out) and the decks would use everything else from L/D dragon, Princess Tytannial, Lightsworn pupper.

I'm saying design a play style and make a deck balanced and fit into that over archetypes as that itself now requires learning an archetype on top over just seeing "deck is control" and knowing roughly how a control deck works.

Also archetypes are the biggest showers of creep and trying to pick and choose them if there's like a 3 year gap alone suddenly 1 deck is just inherently much more well off because they're designed around a stronger game. So using archetypes will either lock everyone into a small year span of the game or have people playing shit decks and shit decks which are shit because all their plays were lobotomised out of it to be "balanced" making it un fun.

>>15945958

>I'm saying design a play style and make a deck balanced and fit into that over archetypes as that itself now requires learning an archetype on top over just seeing "deck is control" and knowing roughly how a control deck works.

I don't really see why we need to mass ban cards for the sake of anons who have never played the game before. I mean, so what if they make suboptimal plays? As long as they don't go full DSP and ruin their boards for no reason they should be OK and they should be able to pick up the general playstyle fairly quickly.

>Also archetypes are the biggest showers of creep and trying to pick and choose them if there's like a 3 year gap alone suddenly 1 deck is just inherently much more well off because they're designed around a stronger game

That is actually a benefit of having a closed deck format as we have complete control over what goes into a deck. If we feel like a deck is doing too well or will do too well then we can fix it with suboptimal cards that still provide support. There are plenty of cards that exist merely to be inferior versions of other cards.

>>15946038

>I don't really see why we need to mass ban cards for the sake of anons who have never played the game before. I mean, so what if they make suboptimal plays?

I didn't say mass ban I said go for play style over archetype, if some card in an archetype generally assists with a strategy it wont be disallowed because it says some archetype key work in it. It also stops the eventual complaining that "My fav archetype isn't in" when there might be 2 or 3 in that have this play style.

Don't give them straight Sky Striker Control or Shadoll control, just give them control cards that work well within the vacuum of the decks it will play.

>If we feel like a deck is doing too well or will do too well then we can fix it with suboptimal cards that still provide support.

And when is the play testing for this taking place? Does the person making the decks for the format have to know say roughly 10 rouge status archetypes (generous name since even rouge now is usually 2 years older then the meta now) and know then some events have to go by with 1 deck overwhelmingly trashing the rest from not being checked? (this even clashes with the people would just use the optimum since 1 archetype will just be the known best one in the lot) This comes back again in the next point

>There are plenty of cards that exist merely to be inferior versions of other cards.

Except in archetype where if they might have some insane strength play maker they have to have for consistency you can't really replace it now since said alternative doesn't exist because archetype cards usually when planned out around working specialist in the archetype being the 1 card for the job in the deck and usually unless it's some 5+ years after being irreverent retrain that there won't be archetypal replacements about to pick from.

Meanwhile with generics almost every card has an undoubtedly weaker / stronger version you can swap in to tune them up but with archetypes since they rely on their cards archetypes (name in effects, boss monster requirements. Only thing left in this case is fuck with ratios which from actual ban list history ranges from too strong and kills the deck to nothing but ran at 0 is effective in stopping the deck but now it's dead when this extreme is pulled.

>>15946107

I guess I can't disagree with you, but I'm still not sure if this is the best idea for a tournament. I just don't think that it'd be funner than a more freeform tournament.

Is a Dark Sanctuary stall deck viable at all

is deck based on fucking your mom viable

If there's a tourney please unban that fucking ladybug so I can play my white cards.

secondarily rate matches based on style points and bully people who play big stompy net decks, it's a lot less appealing to win the 'you tried good job' trophy if you also get a 'your deck was the gayest' trophy

use the ocg banlist because it's better in almost every way for meta war players; in tcg 'other decks' is dominated by gimmick ftks while in ocg 'other decks' is dominated by control and legitimate antimeta

time turns so you can't play the game by yourself while running 20 card guaranteed autism combos that do essentially nothing a 2 card combo couldn't

>>15947033 (checked)

That's actually a very good idea. It's a lot easier to keep a tournament from being a shitfest if anons work together to prevent it from becoming that.

>>15941919

>>15942343

Works fine for me.

>>15947033

OCG banlist is the gayest.

>>15948052

Its not the gayest because the TCG one exists.

I got an 80 dollar gift card for a flgs, what's the most valuable read: meta booster shite to get right now. Unfortunately they don't sell singles.

>>15950573

Probably Soul Fusion Special Edition. If you get a few of those and Legendary Hero Decks you're really close to having 90% of a warrior deck, which is my favorite or second favorite current meta deck. You also can hold onto the Neo Space Connectors, Isoldes, and Summon Sorceresses until SOFUSE is out of print and make a bit of easy money selling them off, any good pulls you get on top of them would put you close to plus. If they have Shadows in Valhalla, Battles of Legend, and Dark Saviors those are all pretty good sets for reprints and also happen to cover most of the rest of that warrior deck. You could also save it for Savage Strike, that set is fairly good and there's a good chance it will have Needlefiber in it, if you wanna roll the dice.

or you could buy product for a better game made by a better company, I personally quite like Exceed: Seventh Cross. Guardians vs. Myths is a good box to get there.

So, before the errata, how great was Future Fusion?

>>15953495

Ridiculously good, it could set up your entire graveyard for multiple decks, i'd say it was almost like a new painful choice at the time.

>>15949764

The fact that cards can't be banned and just limited makes it the gayest. Sure love them pots of greed and Firewall Dragons.

>>15951915

I ended up doing this and getting a couple structure decks on clearance, all they had was 6 packs of SOFU so I didn't have much luck with that. Did pull a Trap Trick out of it so today wasn't a complete wash. I also bought some FoW cards because structure decks were 80% off msrp.

>>15955478

You retard thats traditional not OCG, they have pretty major differences like summon sorceress being banned.

>>15955478

>confusing TCG Traditional with TCG Advanced

What an absolute faggot

http://poal.me/261gqw

What banlist should we use in a tournament setting?

>>15959113

>Custom banlist + bullying.

What does the bullying part mean?

>>15959403

Probably in reference to >>15947033. I think that bullying is going to be a natural part of the process either way, so I guess I'll count it toward the custom banlist option.

>>15959113

>only 4 people voted

I don't think a 4 people tourney is a thing.

>>15960314

Well it doubled now, its pretty obvious that not all people use 8chan at the same time.

I do wonder how many we actually have; 10?

>>15959345

How would a custom ban list even work?

Who gets final say on anything and why them?

INB4 it's a bunch of shitter pet deckers (or worse anime deck players) unbanning all the cards that make their decks super good but banning everything that's even been a shred of meta or relevant.

I'mma ask here instead of creating a new thread, but any other card games you anons play? Shadowverse, Pokemon, Spellweaver, anything?

>>15963698

My first TCG was Pokémon but I don't play it anymore.

Okay, it's been about a day and the custom banlist option has kept it's lead the entire day. I think we have our winner.

So here's how we're going to do this: Using the TCG list as the base because it's most likely what anons are going to be more familiar with, we'll spend a week discussing amongst ourselves what should be added or removed from that list. Next Monday I'll open a multiple answer poll, and use the results of that poll to determine what the new banlist will look like. Reply to the next post I make with your proposed changes.

>>15963698

>>15963850

I would probably play a different TCG if any of the others had a userbase and feature-complete sim comparable to ygopro.

>>15963977

Pot of Desires and Mind Control to 1. Mind Control is a universally good option for side decks because it eats up more methodical strategies with real wincons and turns them into advantage. Pot of Desires has the dubious distinction of both accelerating older decks that need acceleration and also being utterly free for link decks to use due to their frequent redundancy in spells, monsters, and offloading all wincons to the extra deck. Again, free and minimal risk +1 for most/all link decks is not so good.

>>15963698

MTG via arena and Pokemon with it's sim.

Dudes I know give me those card codes when they pull for me to play online with while they play at events which makes removes paying out the equation for me.

>>15965078

Assuming you mean extra deck by 'side deck', Angel of Zera is the coolest because it lets you wipe the board and get a free 2800 beater during the opponent's turn. The Weather's designated effect whore Painter Rainbow has a pretty sweet secondary effect (every monster can negate at cost of banish) on top of about the same trick at the cost of being an extra tribute to drag out in the first place, not that that's a problem nowadays.

For the actual side deck, D.D. Scout Plane is the freest with D.D. Survivor in close second. Both are perfectly applicable no matter the build.

>>15963698

I play WIXOSS but its sim(WEBXOSS) is out of date, not the biggest userbase either.

>>15963977

Sky Striker - Engage to 1, a consistency loss probably makes the deck average; but i'd rather not nuke a deck off the face of the earth.

Trickstar Reincarnation to 1, hyper consistent burn kinda kills a shit ton of decks. Summon Sorceress to 0 because the card enables a shit ton of degeneracy.

I feel like the level 6 Giskis have been limited for long enough, hand loops are scary sure; but the deck is probably doing jack even with both at 3(at the very least Mind Angus doesn't deserve it).

On that note how about Shurit and Brio going to 3? despite those cards being around in the OCG, Nekroz doesn't really top anything. Construct to 3 because same as Nekroz, shadolls aren't exactly above average anymore.

Thunderdark to 2, it hits thunder dragons a bit though i don't actually know how to hit the deck directly. Maybe Gold Sarc to 1?

Final Countdown to 3 to give decks based around it a chance of existing. Damage Juggler to 3 as well, i don't think Performages are breaking the game without Plushfire.

I do want set rotation to be at more than 1 since its generally to much dedication to a card you rarely see, maybe it could go to 2?

>>15966528

>Final Countdown to 3 to give decks based around it a chance of existing.

You have no idea what horrors this will lead to.

>>15966528

>Engage to 1

Literally offs the deck and it shows you've not tested or watched it to thing engage at 1 is as simple as a consistency drop.

>thunderdark to 2

Messes with nothing and a majority of decks can't beat over 2 mistake anyway without a got opening hand

>Shurit and Brio to 3

>after Impcantations

Your brain is on battery saver

>Final countdown to 3

look up why it's at 1

This really reads like you wanting your older decks to just go full power while nerfing what's current ignoring current cards that have come out since then that justifies those old banlists.

>>15967659

>Engage

I can easily admit to not testing, my suggestion was merely a theory; they're still the best deck in the OCG with it at 2, so clearly that isn't enough to clip its wings. at the very least the OCG treatment should be done(semi limiting it).

>after Impcantations

Ah yes, Impcantations the archtype that totally made Nekroz game breaking in the OCG. Actually it made them a rouge deck below stuff like Gouki. Theres a reason why i never pointed towards unicore and thats because its unknown territory and Nekroz probably would be broken with enough stuff still.

>look up why it's at 1

Why is everyone trying to make stall a mysterious sounding thing? Its insanely basic you know.

>>15967761

>they're still the best deck in the OCG with it at 2

Yeah in the OCG where they have Maxx C and Shared ride to start a turn 2 with 17 cards in hand if they try to extend vs them.

TCG would kill generics before an archetype leaving them more reliant on internal cards.

Not to mention overall stronger generic spell line up.

>It's rouge deck but doesn't have practically free access to it's entire line up and multiple non destruction removals and or searches per turn

With implantation it could free end on 2 bounce, trishula banish and floodgate the extra deck and a negate .

>Why is everyone trying to make stall a mysterious sounding thing?

Just saves time explaining the combos.

>>15968145

>TCG would kill generics before an archetype leaving them more reliant on internal cards.

The custom banlist probably isn't trying to be the TCG though?

>With implantation it could free end on 2 bounce, trishula banish and floodgate the extra deck and a negate .

You know what that sounds like? The average deck by this point; its not that special anymore.

>Just saves time explaining the combos.

None of those combos would be relevant anyway, the ones that literally remove chance are memes and stall is fragile.

I don't think its topped in the OCG for two years now, and its at 3 there.

Necessary bump.

>>15945752

that's some forbidden memories level shit

>>15945752

You know, that reminds of season one and how the earliest games where pretty much a DnD/tabletop session with cards

Bump

>>15987710

They have a shit ton of cards, so I'm gonna assume you can make something that works.

>>15988176

I come from that premise but I don't think a pure F.A deck is enough. Care to recommend me any generic cards?

I like the Silent Swordsman but is it good to combo it with the Silent Magician?

>>15988207

U.As are too bulky to really run anything specific, its better to just focus on getting mid-fielder+the field(so stuff like foolish burial of goods to mill box). Otherwise just run good generics like hand traps and Dinowrestler Pankratops.

>>15989733

No, ones clunky enough; also its kinda redundant isn't it? Maybe if you actually can consistently play them and not brick it'd be good(though most decks either don't care about the spell null or only really activate one spell per turn.)

>>15989988

Clunky huh? Darn. All the my favorite stuff are either clunky by design (Horus, Silents) or by clunky by format…

>>15990005

Almost forgot Noble Knights. Was Noble Knights always this clunky or I just noticed it now?

>>15990015

No they were always clunky, its just that at the time their pay out was good enough to compensate.

They still keep getting support so maybe someday they'll be worth it again, but their design causes auto clunk because equip spells.

Speaking of that i wonder how the rest of the evil eye stuff will work, a lot of those types of packs give a couple of duds and a one good archtype though, so chances of them being good is pretty low.

>>15990033

Well, we only have three cards for Evil Eye so far (One main deck, one spell and one Link). The one Evil Eye spell card look good but the self burn after every time you activate an Evil Eye spell or equipped monster effect is kinda dumb but that's just me not liking self burn. Almost total protection is nice though (still can't protect from being Tributed though)

The main deck card can search on Normal Summon and if it's equipped with Evil Eye of Selene, you can target and destroy one special summoned monster but downside being you have to destroy one card you control on your next Standby phase (wonder if you could be a dick, target Serziel that's equipped with the Evil Eye of Selene to just give that effect a fuck you)

>>15990059

>(wonder if you could be a dick, target Serziel that's equipped with the Evil Eye of Selene to just give that effect a fuck you)

<It cannot be targeted or destroyed by your opponent's card effects

No you can't. They'll probably get a few spells that want to get blown up though.

Also clearly they'll get some form of swarm right? Zerachiel doesn't really make any sense otherwise considering it works off of the idea of 4+ monsters(forth monster for a negative effect but still).

Maybe some kind of super Medraut for them? He isn't some super blowout like the weathery one was, so i can't see him being something intended to build up to.

>>15990083

And probably getting an Evil Eye main deck monster with 2600 Atk for Zerachiel (maybe a level 4 with some heavy cost) but yeah, Evil Eye might need some swarming capability and maybe a card that benefits should your LP is low or something.

>>15990125

They probably intend for a monster with a spam-able effect for the condition instead, i have a feeling all the evil eye main deck will be stuff like 1600/1100/2100.

Selene has a really easy condition. but who knows really, they could just get a raw 2600 monster yeah.

>>15990160

Worse case scenario, the 2600 monster is a level 5.

>>15989988

Most decks don't care? Nuts..guess Horus is out too, huh?

>take a look at how much my ygopro

ojama memedeck would cost

>over 30 euro

What in the god damn.

>>15994778

Except there are heaps of decks better than OCG Nekroz? And OCG Nekroz has Releaser.

Its not a true contender for the top. Though I'd still admit that it'd probably be way above most decks that'd be played in a 8chan tourney.

I'd actually put it on the bully if played pure pile, Nekroz was always possible to hybrid though, so its more greed for a dumb engine than a deck i never actually directly played.

Is it just me or Warrior types and archetypes are mostly good to ease folks into formats?

>>15995309

Well, if it helps you feel better, the pack where this comes in also have a Chaos MAX Dark Magician, a Red-Eyes Alternative, Mana (as in Dark Magician Girl Mana) and a Cubic support..

http://poal.me/s56lzx

What changes to the TCG Advanced banlist do you think would be ideal for a tourney?

Note: this is a multiple answer poll, so feel free to select every change that you agree with.

I'll accept all 1st and 2nd place winners for the custom banlist.

>>15995310

>Shining Star GT is really good for smacking the living daylights out of anything and you can stack it with non once per turn negation

Where the fuck did the "non once per turn negation" come from? It's only once per turn.

>>15995476

I know the pain, chief…Glad Beasts only got ONE Link monster, Battlin' Boxers got nothing, X-Sabers have ONE support (M-X Saber Invoker, that's it)

Oh hey, a new Exodia card. Let's see..needs 5 monsters to be tributed, and if it was tribute summoned that way and it destroys a DARK Fiend monster, you win the Duel and the card's Atk/Def becomes the combined Atk/Def of the tributed monsters. Wonder if you can cheap it out with those "This card counts as 2 tributes" thing?

>>15997736

Onslaught's a damn good card. Really wanted to make an Amazoness deck but aside from Swordsman, Queen, Princess and Baby Tiger…is there any other main deck monster I needed?

>>15997789

Yeah, Duel Winners usually get banned from the start. Forgot about that and Swords is just me being a dick to players who think they're hot shit. Combo it with Heirloom and you got something that can't be destroyed (once), destroys anything that it attacks and all those damages are applied to the opponent rather than myself so that Chaos MAX Dragon can eat a dick.

>>15997789

And Malefics are a joke anyways…OK, maybe not Malefic Stardust but most of them are jokes anyways.

>>15998434

Really hope there's an Evil Eye spell that acts like a Selene alternative..you know, in case shit happens.

>>15999170

It is banlist time? As someone that doesn't play I wouldn't know.

Maxx C wasn't bad at least. Didn't actually prevent you from playing. But essentially they just increased the number of hand traps again. They still are all the jazz, right?

>>15999200

That's not what I'm talking about. There was discussion about a possible tournament, so I made a poll about what changes we'd want to the banlist.

>>15998796

Amazoness Archer is banned for FTK memes anyway

>>15999293

Only in the OCG though.

>>15999249

I guess I wasn't paying attention.

Can't we just go back to final XYZ banlist and start from there? Something like that.Maybe lock the Dragons and Spell Books from being played and so let more things to be viable? Though I might not be remembering the period super correctly, I think there were a lot of other decks that would have been viable if it wasn't for these two.

>>15999293

>>15999316

Why?

>>15999335

Cannon Soldier effects(non-once per turn tribute to burn) combined with a bunch of cards spaming the field cause FTKs; the game is now filled with loops that can give enough fodder to kill.

>>15999327

I really doubt many people wanna try remember pay that much attention to set numbers and what sets existed during ruler format.

>>15999200

Ban Handtraps. Force folks to play Trap cards again.

>>15999327

A good chunk of this thread is about the event. I don't know what to tell you.

Also, we're up to 5 changes now, which I suppose I'll call good enough for our first time considering this is our first time thinking about this and give it one one more day.

>>16002311

That's just the speed duel format. It's not the game proper but it's something.

>>16002311

what's the context of this? it just looks like the standard speed duel format with the addition of pendulums, is this for duel links?

>>16002311

So….they're bringing Duel Links into an actual game format? Granted, looking at Duel Links (aside from the Meta being conquered by Anki Turbo OTK and Blue-Eyes, Blue-Eyes everywhere) did make some useless cards in the actual game be useful for a change.

>>15999200

Ban the fucking gay ass handtrap lolis. They piss me the fuck off.

So now that the banlist issue is out of the way, we can decide:

>who will host the tournament

>when to hold the tournament

>how long anons will have between the announcement of the tournament and the start time to make a deck and practice with it

>what to call the tournament

and, unless I'm forgetting anything:

>whether to have a separate thread for the tournament or just hold it in this thread

Personally I'd rather not be the one to host it, but I'm okay with doing that as long as it's not on a monday.

>>16002311

Speed Duel format from Duel Links

>>16002350

The meta is mostly Koaki Meiru, Vampires and Spellbooks in the higher ranks.

Where can I get good graphics for ygopro? Like card sleeves, backgrounds and stuff.

>>16007262

>good graphics

>card sleeves, backgrounds

That aside, just chose whatever the fuck you want, edit it if you have to and switch it with the ones in the game's folder.

>>16007331

I'm asking for good pictures to use as sleeves and backgrounds though. Or a source for them.

>>16007331

Well the Ygopro fourms have those types of things in them.

>>16007515

Sleeves/backgrounds generally just need to be the same dimensions as the images already in the game from what i remember.

>>16005695

Koaki Meiru? Damn..

>>16008992

Koa'ki Meiru have a easy to summon 3000 beater, their main level 4 is 2000(and special summons from the deck); and they have spell/trap negation+a rota.

The iron core gimmick is a lot easier to handle with smaller decks as well, its pretty easy to see why the deck is meta.

>>16009086

That seems busted.

>>16009086

What's PS supposed to be?

>>16010370

I'm going to guess that card effect is going to be "cannot be activated the turn this monster's summoned and any monster this card attacks will be reduced to zero". It's simple but it works and isn't too broken

>>16010370

I meant to add card effects before the cannot be activated part.

>>16010370

Its zero, like all its other stats.

>>16010503

More likely is that it has a retarded summoning condition, its never actually stated how its summoned but its pendulum summon gets a special name(zero pendulum summon).

The other Arc-V manga card that did that didn't actually pendulum summon(the shuffle all cards into decks one).

>>16010544

Yeah but what is PS as a stat?

>inb4 newfag

>>16010370

Pendulum Scale.

>>16013502

What's with your ygopro and why does it have such high quality images? In my machine they are compressed as shit.

>>16013508

Do you not see it is YGOPro2? They use higher quality images. But that also makes the card folder over 2GB big. Even if you don't want to play YGOPro2 you can install it (and patch it) and then just move the pictures to your Percy folder.

A while ago there was an HD project, but it is dead now. YGOPro2 just continued to use higher quality images for their newer cards, it seems.

When asking what's up with the different games and the same server a mod gave me this super shitty reply "I think KoishiPro is just a server inside Pro2. And ProES is a different sim that can use the same servers" He fucking thinks! Why is he even a mod there, Jesus.

>>16013502

>Supposedly it can't be scripted currently and it would require a core rewrite

Yeah i remember the reason, its dumb once you realize the big problem is putting making a card with X name unable to be activated next turn(that can't be that hard to program unless the code is a complete mess).

The turn skip is already in the game as the anime card so it can't be that.

I totally forgot the fancy Ygopro existed.

>>16013545

>that can't be that hard to program unless the code is a complete mess

As far as I remember from years ago, the code is a mess. Percy specifically took a long fucking while to even transition to Links. Seriously, they might as well just use the Chines code. That's how Percy was born to begin with. Seems like the current Chinese code might be a lot better (with which YGOPro2 and ProES work with as far as I can see or at least the core or whatever).

>>16013530

Why not let the game render the card so it doesn't take up as muchs space?

>>16013621

Not sure what you mean, but it is just a bunch of .png files.

Also I updated the online pastebin.

>>16013652

Instead of having .png's for each cards, have the game render the cards by using templates and then adding the text, images, levels, attributes and all that as the card loads. Lighter than having pictures of full cards.

>>16013661

Oh, I see. The console games do that.

This is how the YGOPro games have been working since the start and I guess no one decided to change it. You have to blame the Chinese for that. Well the .png format set up is simple and does make it easy for anyone to add and change default pictures. A while ago there was a custom waifu pack for example, though this is probably even less used now than before.

The again, the game being over 2GB big (over 3 in YGOPro2's case, because they have extra images for the "totally 3D" shite") is not really a problem.

>>16013679

Anyways, got a cool pic I could use for the back of my cards? Ar at least the background, it's crusty as shit.

>>16013679

If the card art images were in a loose folder in the same vein as current Ygopro waifu image packs would still be an option.

"full arts" wouldn't exist though i guess.

Say how many people here screw around with fake cards? its kinda funny how broken they are(even compared to actual yugioh).

Too bad the lack of AI modes in the current Ygopros means newer versions of Ygopro can't handle it.

>>16013695

The KoishiPro thing has AI, but only specific decks. I don't remember if YGOProES had AI, but I can't even check right now as no link for the newest version.

>Yes.. Those clients (ProES/Pro2/Koishi) are compatible with each other ( those are able to access the same servers using the correct ip and port )

>What matter in that aspect is the online databases… If the clients are able to access the same servers they basically will be able to use the same cards… ( if the local databeses are using the same IDs for cards )

>The only requirement to be able to use a card online is that you have a database file which use the same IDs as the cards in the servers.. You don't even need the scripts because the online files will handle those… ( most servers that requires the version 1.034.8 to access are basically using the same cards in conjunction )

>And once a card is official then the IDs is fixed across most platforms.

So it is pretty much as I imagined it is. All these 3 versions basically use the ChinaPro version of the game (as I used to call it before) and all they do is copy it, translate and insert in their version of the game.

Meanwhile Percy is the only one that is independent and even though it updates on almost daily basis, the coders might as well be losing to the chinks.

There's this faggot on the European yugioh percy server called "No "player"s" who asks you to tell him your deck before but won't let you play in the first place. He sounds like an utter faggot and unironically uses the word yikes. is it any of you fags?

>>16019733

>he hasn't played duelists of the roses

>>16019742

I never liked Yugioh so no, i aint.

>>16019747

Then GTFO. This is the Yugioh-zone.

>>16020436

Cool.

>>16020436

And getting rid of their bad effects. Unless you want to run Skill Drain..

>>16022039

Well there's that. That brings up the playable Malefic monsters to..what? 3? Stardust, Cyber End and Rainbow Dragon? Unless you played Gear…and Malefic End..

>>16023039

>No Malefic Blue-Eyes or Red-Eyes

>>16026445

>running bricks for mediocre beaters

Rainbow is already suss as fuck.

The only reason you ever run Blue Eyes is for Gear. You don't run Red-Eyes ever.

So, I hear the TCG's version of Savage Strike's getting a Kaiju card. From what I can tell, it's Mecha-King Ghidorah..

>>16026725

>During the Main Phase (Quick Effect): You can discard this card; banish 1 “Kaiju” monster you control that is owned by your opponent, then, you can special summon 1 monster from your GY. You can only control 1 “Kaiju” monster. This card is unaffected by other “Kaiju” Card’s effects and cannot be destroyed by battle with a “Kaiju” monster. During your end phase, if this card is in your GY: You can special summon this card. You can only use this effect of “Super Anti-Kaiju War Machine Mecha-Thunder King” once per duel.

Oh shit actual archetypal support, i was honestly expecting something dumb.

The new TCG archetype seems jank.

>>15999200

>They still are all the jazz, right?

Barely anybody main decked handtraps at YCS Sydney. Dark Warrior and other combo decks are not as big of a problem as they were in the previous format, so handtraps aren't as necessary to run.

>>15999320

>>16002362

If your deck can get completely shut down by a single ash, it's a shit deck.

>>16000241

>Force folks to play Trap cards again.

You would have to do a lot more than ban handtraps in order for regular traps to be played again. The current format is simply too fast for traps to be viable, and there is too much negation for anything other than counter traps to resolve most of the time. Sage for double post.

anyone have any tips for my Gren Maju golden Castle deck?

>>16029390

You can banish more than 5 cards when summoning Eater of Millions.

>>16029427

yeah, but I'm running three pots, so banishing my extra deck is limited to 5 cards unless I absolutely need the attack boost.

>>16029390

How is a Kaiju engine supposed to benefit your deck? You just barely scraped your way out of a brick in your own replay.

Should I get a skull servant deck in 2019?

>>16029716

If you want something budget. look into Salamangreats when they come out in February. Buying 3 copies of the Soulburner structure deck guarantees a core of the deck Konami is gonna be pushing for the next 2 or 3 formats, as well as 3 ash blossoms to boot. The main important link monster outside of the structure deck was confirmed to be a rare in Savage Strike, so the whole thing is going to cost next to nothing.

>>16027720

Wish they had like some Kaiju cards that let you play more than one if you're running Pure Kaijus but give'em a downside for it like that particular card can't do the Kaiju thing (tribute over enemy cards) as like a trade off for having one extra Kaiju on your side (not a spell card, a monster maybe?)

>>16029657

It opens holes in people's defense. When you're dropping 8000 attack normal summons, giving your opponent an attack position monster can win you games.

>>16031646

forgot a few other reasons

>Why not just run solemns or [insert genre removal here]?

Instant speed, generic, but more importantly it does not trigger "when sent to graveyard by" effects, which are the true cancer killing Yu-Gi-Oh. It packs the power of a breakthrough+solemn combo in 1 card slot.

>Well, won't it still slow me down?

Yes; some decks run free kaijus better than others. Anything that can summon generic from grave, rituals, and last long enough to reliably draw a second kaiju without spending the first instead turns that very powerful removal into a very powerful removal and a beater, or a combo launchpad with a fuckload of lv8s and lv7s to abuse. They're basically the best handspell if you're confident you wont be ftk'd. Unlike other handspells, you can also run only lv8 Kaiju and use Trade-In too.

>What about the effects?

You can convert the Kaiju into a "full archetype" for the low low cost of 12 cards as well, opening up a number of fun and abusable abilities with a hard to kill field. If you want to run a shit deck for style points but also win, just throw in a shitload of kaiju, it works every time. At least if you count constant forfeits as "wins".

>>16031646

A Relinquished Link? Damn…

>>16029716

Skull Servant is unironically viable in Duel Links as a petdeck.

>You can only use each effect of this card’s name once per turn.

>(1) If a face-up Field Spell is on the field: You can Tribute this card; Special Summon 1 “Malefic Parallel Gear” from your Deck, then add 1 “Malefic” monster from your Deck to your hand, except “Malefic Parallel Gear”.

>(2) If you would banish a monster to Special Summon a “Malefic” monster from your hand using its own procedure, you can banish this card from your field or GY instead.

Holy crud. A way to play Malefic Rainbow Dragon, Blue-Eyes or Red-Eyes WITHOUT having the actual card in the deck?

Got a question…why are there Summoned Skull retrains?

>>16037583

Because he was in Season 1.

Oh shit a new banlist.

https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/

>Construct is finally back

>cyber-stein

>haet dark warriors

>>16040472

>Soul Charge is now banned

>Brilliant Fusion is Limited

>Slash Draw…Limited? How?

>Kaiju Slumber, Exciton, Monarch Stormforth are now FREE!!

How dire is the Meta that Cyber-Stein was brought back? Unrelated but the captcha having OTK on it made me laugh..

>>16040472

>inzektor hornet unlumited

REAL SHIT

>>16040472

Why haven't handtraps been removed yet?

>>16041820

Trust me when i say you don't actually want that, it'd just make the first turn player win 90% of the time.

>>16043151

Then make the game less shitty overall.

>>16043156

Completely impossible without a full reboot at this point and duel links proves they'd screw that up within a year anyway.

>>16043183

>I want to make edgy try-hard xyz-spamming meta fags bootyblasted.

>xyz

you sweet summer child

>>16043355

Don't worry. Links limited all of that.

>>16043355

see for yourself

heres most recent chain burn deck

https://www.dropbox.com/s/72faky6accdmzh3/chain%20burn1.ydk?dl=0

>>15942124

>that guy from 7th grade who's now in prison who brought live chickens to a duel as sacrifices for ritual summons

Please tell me this story, i'm fucking crying from laughing

>>16043183

With the meta probably slowing down with the new banlist, anti-meta and actual meta are pretty close. Maybe try True Draco or Altergeist. You could also just put together a bunch of different floodgates like Inspector Boarder, Dimensional Fissure, Thunder King Rai-Oh, Fossil Dyna Pachycephalo, etc together and just try to stun your opponent out of playing.

New banlist!

https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/limited/

>>16044596

Your music is low as SHIT. Turn it up, son.

>>16045817

Finally Konami does something good for once.

So are Speed duels going to be the Shadespire of YuGiOh!

>>16046474

I didn't know it actually got the music track, wew. I set the media source to some arbitrary gain and wondered why ffmpeg said there were 0mbs of audio.

>>16053578

Poals indicate a thread pop between 8 and 14, possibly more if something actually happens.

These have always been slow because yugioh discussion tends to be pretty methodical or QA sessions, but they were a lot more active when we were playing password matches and shit.

>>16053578

>first looks like a vegana

I've heard that one before but I honestly don't see it.

>Yugioh4RealMen sleeve

Having an eceleb for a sleeve seems pretty silly to me regardless of who it is.

>>16053655

We need to actually decide on the logistics of running it first.

>>16003132

>>16053769

Yeah he was a meme deck replay channel back in the day.

>whenfuckingever

I mean, if we run this shit at 3 in the morning on a Wednesday we're probably not going to see a lot of participants. We need a little bit of order. Also we don't want any schedule conflicts so if somebody says to host it on a day and that's during a game night then somebody can speak up about it.

>nigger what the fuck is this rocky, just use your favourite and roll with it

We're using a semi-custom banlist. I'm assuming that anons would like some time to adjust to it, or at least have enough time to realize that it exists and not get kicked out the door for bringing something that's banned.

speed duels are pretty fun

>>16055139

Yeah I made a poll about what kind of banlist to use because everybody kept throwing out ideas and not really agreeing with anybody else. Custom banlist was the winner, so I gave a one week deadline to propose what kind of changes anons wanted. Then I made a poll about that:

>>15995536

>>16055457

Half of the thing is just the guy playing with himself…that's what Yu-Gi-Oh is nowadays, huh? Just one side playing with himself while the other guy's probably doing something else.

There's two thing I really hate in yugioh.

Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring, with the rest of the loli hand traps and the Salamangreat archetype. People who play these cards are the lowest IQ cunts around and should be castrated live on national TV.

>>16058990

Only the real degenerate decks. There are still OG niggas like me who play Ojamas.

>>16058990

Honestly I'd take an OTK meta over one that's populated by Altergeist esque decks with 7 gorillion traps that don't let you do anything and slowly peck you to death. At least it's pretty clever to change Cyber (((Stein)))'s type so you can equip him with some literally who spell. Somebody had to think about that one.

>>16060020

What about none of this tho?

>>16058990

Yes, has been for nearly half of it's lifespan now, even duel links as stripped back as it was is this now too.

>>16060026

One can only dream.

The game doesn't work what the fuck.

All effects, both from monsters and spells don't work.

>>16060429

Doesn't seem to be true.

>>16058990

This bothers me on a regular basis. If you make more than 10 actions and you take over 5 seconds an action I'm telling you to fuck off to AIs and moving on. There's no excuse for playing with yourself and playing poorly, slowly, when you have the exact same 100% guaranteed extra deck combo every fucking game.

>>16059803

Well, I hate that too…and decks that's basically ONE guy playing with himself. I want to play Yu-Gi-Oh, dude..not sit there with my thumb up my ass while you empty your fucking deck by turn 1.

>>16061068

>100% guaranteed extra deck combo

>What is handtraps/Solemns

Maybe that's just autistic paranoia speaking, but I find myself hesitating every now and then because with the decks I usually play, if I commit too heavily to one move and get ashed or something, I tend to be fucked and debate trying to bait it out.

Can somebody with a discard go to the YGOPRO channel and ask somebody to fix Bee List Soldier? I'm pretty sure it should work off of your opponent's monsters, but it doesn't.

>>16061206

Most good and meta decks have built in redundancies that bypass or get around both handtraps and solemns with grave effects, their own hand activation, or straight up "fuck you" quick play spells that make whatever you did to slow them down nearly irrelevant, bar you having just as many 4th and 5th lines of defense.

>>16062433

Can't wait till counter effect hand traps get banned. With solitsire cards too.

How viable is a Gem Knight deck in the current meta? I haven't played since Dueling Network went down.

>>16062576

What if my deck never used brilliant fusion?

>>16062815

play speed duel format

>>16062815

Link monsters are cool as long as they don't get too spammed.

>>16062576

Oof….Gem Knights lost their key playmaker?

>>16062737

What, you're using regular Poly? Or Ultra Poly?

>>16063143

The DS games? Maybe?

>>16063193

Sure, but nothing prevents you from playing these games the way you want to. The campaigns are not hard enough to require tier 1 deck and if you are just unlock all character (easily done with a cheat or a save) and just want to have versus matched you don't have to worry even about that. In the Tag Duel games you can even pick a custom deck for your opponent.

>>16063327

Aki is top waifu.

>>16063482

Not the girl whose willing to stow in an airplane as a gift for Jack?

>>16063505

What about that tiddy game tho.

>>16063653

Huh…forgot that exists…

>>16062815

You could just play Monrachs, Nekroz, Shaddoll, or Thunder Dragon, since none of those need Links.

>>16063143

DGZ has a Discord for goat but it is chock full of faggotry. There is a Facebook group called Nostalgic Duelists, that is mostly dead. Only places to find decent goat games is at a locals that supports it.

Been out of the loop for about two years now, any meta decks I should know about? Have any fun decks to start with?

>>16079475

What kind of playstyle do you prefer?

>>16079613

Swarming usually but I am not picky. Like to play defensively to. Pretty much like anything that doesn't win me the game in one turn.

>>16079674

Well that sounds like Altergeist to me, they sorta swarm and due to being a control deck don't really win in one turn.

They're decently relevant last time i checked.

>>16079682

I'll give them a look, appreciate it Anon.

>>16079674

Thunder Dragons are pretty swarmy, but they can also OTK, so I don't know if you'd want that. I don't think you should be looking into meta if you want swarm but not OTK, as anything meta that has decent enough swarm is probably going to OTK.

>>16079682

>Altergeist

Altergeists barely swarm at all. You can get what, like 2-3 MD monsters on the field in one turn?

>>16079731

They do constantly special summon really, its slow but still swarm.

They special summon during both turns so its hard to judge.

>>16079731

I'll check em out regardless, not really wanting to play meta decks just wanted to know what is meta. Sounds like it became more of a mess than two years ago somehow based on this thread.

>>16081869

Speed format sucks dick.

>>16081869

it fun. I like not having to deal with anything that came after syncro summoning.

>>16081869

Not cucked linkshit/10

Yugioh bite-sized is actually quite enjoyable when you don't brick and the hard cap of 3 monster and S/T zones will really force players to think hard what all they want for their forces or support out at a time while not restricting you to a fucking paywall or literally playing handicapped like the alternative cancer.

>>16083227

Guess this is a better alternative than regular format?

>>16083233

if you like oldschool yugioh, yes

>>16083249

I wonder…if they ever have Ojama out for Speed Duel, would Ojama King Turbo would lockdown your opponent?

>>16083259

>>16081869

It's alright but Kaiba has a really insane skill that makes him busted. By far the best deck is BEWD beatdown. Doesn't really feel like oldschool yugioh, too fast. Feels more like mid-era yugioh just without extra deck mechanics. Ojama King works exactly as you think it does, was even a stun deck in Duel Links at one point.

>>16083283

Well, BEWD Beatdown has been consistently good in Duel Links, even when Masked Heroes and Amazoness ruled the roost..

>>16083259

Ojama king used to be a bit cancerous for a while in duel links in combiation with cyber style. But it fell flat because it wasnt that difficult to deal with and it relied on drawing into the perfect cards. Will it be viable in speed dueling? Who knows, we don't even know what is yet to come there. It will probably a long time before they think about adding GX era cards. Maybe they wont add any new cards at all and see this little experiment as a failure

>>16083259

Yes, Ojama King can completely lock out your opponent from playing any monsters in the Speed Duel format.

>>16083612

They'll waste all their resources just to rush him out and then have nothing when he gets blown up. Even I'm not worried.

>>16098751

Poecehnps is my favorite card, thanks Konami!

>>16098751

Why Shiranui Style Synthesis though? Also..if it's all protag archetype..where's the Dark Magician thing?

>>16074701

Simply beautiful thank you so much for posting

Kisara best girl

>>16111907

>Anything I should know?

every time you want to play card you need to read EULA written on it

you probably time out before playing your third card

You will watch opponents play solitaire for two minutes while durning your turn you do jack shit

If your friends are normalfag tier dont even bother with this

>Why are there two versions of YGOPro? What's the best one?

you might wanna get ygoproES because it have ai so you can practice

also there is chinaPRO if you want to use mischief of time goddess so bad

>>16098751

0/10 you didnt make it a Fusion Pendulum with Link Markers

>>16111907

>Anything I should know?

When did you stop? You're probably going to hit a brick wall if you don't first understand how Links work.

>Why are there two versions of YGOPro? What's the best one?

I haven't used chinkpro so I can't tell you how it is, but Percy YGOPro works just fine.

How do learn what good cards came out since i last played somewhat seriously (going to locals) in 2015. Also what is a good resource for locating cards that fit a specific criteria Eg: I want a card that lets me draw a card or search whether it be archtype element or monster type.

If you ask me, the best way to play Yu-Gi-Oh now..is just play the vidya. The actual TCG now is just an exercise in "How can I win without my opponent getting ONE turn in". No joke, one guy's turn could just be him playing with himself while his opponent can walk away for a while, make coffee and come back and still the guy's doing his combo wombo thing with his deck now almost empty….and he's still not done!

And don't get me started on the one stock counter for anything, Kaijus or Ghost Girls….at least the Solemn Brigade has a cost to their stuff…

>>16124179

urehggpfff me summoned skull equip with axe herheheh pffffffffff

>>16125685

Dude, I'd take the vidya AI where they would turbo out Summoned Skull over "Waste 10 minutes waiting for that guy to actually finish emptying his deck, refilling his deck again…and emptying it back again"

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>>16130107

>>16125685

>Strawmanning this hard