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a3c6bc  No.15908055

So i have read some guides and have 30 hours in but i still can't get good at this game, even though i was quite a avearge player at total war rome.

First thing: my infantry can't hold the line for atleast one second and breaks easily

Second : Spears are useless 90% of the time they are too slow to move to a charge and then still have to get in formation for bracing which takes some time.

Third : I always get wrecked at Cav vs Cav encounters, and i know i have to use melee cav in diamond formation to beat shock cav but even then i still lose a big part of my cav.

Here are some pictures of a battle i had against a AI, if /v/ could help me see what im doing wrong i would appreciate.

a3c6bc  No.15908086

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0511fc  No.15908114

I've only played Rome and have yet to explore the whole series. My usual tactic when facing calv is to have them crash into my shieldwall and fuck them from behind with my calv charge. Otherwise I put all my units into a mega fuckshit formation that's protected in the flanks and keep my horses for a side charge. I also recommend just using horse archers.


e20f57  No.15908140

You don't keep enough of a front line so every unit of dudes gets smacked more while you're trying to maneuver frontline infantry into their asses while you should be doing whats called a hammer and anvil, you set up a very solid front line like ALL your swordsmen and spearmen, the bowmen behind them then micro the cavalry into the backs of your enemy keep like a unit or two back with your archers to cover their asses though in case your enemy tries to do sneaky shit


e20f57  No.15908147

>>15908140

in the third image for the battle you posted you have three units moving ahead of the rest of the army, they're gonna get fucking raped and then you have your spearmen way the fuck back when they should pretty much all be moving together in formation and once the front engages you can use those spearmen to encircle them, like I see what you're trying to do bro but your execution is just bad


ac9dc5  No.15908155

>>15908055

It's really not rocket science.

>muh strategy

>work on your economy

>take a province if you can

>work on your economy

>take on a neighbor if you can

>work on your economy

>repeat

>muh tactics

>ensure you have more men

>he has more men.jpg

>let him come to you

>ensure you have better men

>he has better men.jpg

>let him come to you

After a point you'll reach the stage where you're so much stronger that you'll auto resolve most of the shit out there.

Also, I don't know why you play Attila when your PC obviously can't handle it. I don't even mean that in any mean way. Funnily enough you'd happen to have a much easier time finding your wits about in Rome or Shogun seeing they're not a mess like AT or BRI.


0b7095  No.15908238

Attila is shit. Even Empire is more bearable. Play a better game fag.

Having said that your formation is garbage. Keep your units at least 5 ranks deep if you expect then to enter melee, and even deeper if you want them to absorb a cavalry charge. Try and angle your ranged units to shoot enemies in the flank. Failing that get them to hit the enemy cav as your own cav engages them in melee. Horses are larger targets than men, and once you have cav superiority you can flank and maneuver as you please.

But please play a better game.


454889  No.15908373

Well I’m going to assume you know that the ultimate goal of the battle is to get a hammer and anvil going.

So I’ll just address your three problems.

If you’re infantry is breaking to fast that means either the enemy has higher level Infantry or your infantry has no shields or armor and is getting shot with arrows.

Make sure you infantry has good leadership and defenses against arrows and they will hold longer. Also don’t let enemy Cav anywhere near your infantry or they will get more butt fucked than Aniki.

Spears are NOT interceptor units. They are more like a deterrent. Think of them as a porcupine.

Cav vs. Cav is basically mutually assured destruction. The idea is to bait the enemy Cav into the units you have that can damage them. I’ve beat a lot of players by baiting them with light Cav, making them think there’s an easy target for their heavy Cav, only to bog them down with arrows and spears.

Another thing you can do with fast cav is to dart past any heavy cav or Spears and go for the back lines with max speed.

As for your army in the screen caps.

Spears should not be in front. Swordsmen are the melee brawlers and do better at the front. Spears are a deterrent and should be kept in the back lines and on the sides. The Romans kept their spears in the back and so should you. Cav placement is fine. Archers are fine. I never played Attila so I don’t know the meta on which unit stats are what.

Just neutralize the enemy cav then pound the enemy infantry from behind with your cav and you win.

Warhammer is such a nightmare with flying units and magik.


ef8400  No.15908422

>>15908055

>hide cavalry in forest to the side

>wait for enemy melee to engage your melee

>ride out with cavalry to quickly assassinate their general

>slam with cavalry into back of enemy melee until they break

>kill all the archers and fleeing units with cavalry

Congratulations, you just won every battle in Total War.


9afdaa  No.15908540

In every total war game, morale is more important than both numbers and casualties. Find the most efficient way to cause a chain rout and you've won.


ac9dc5  No.15908590

>>15908540

That's bullshit. Even basic phalanges in Rome almost never broke morale. Same for elite troops in every TW game, ever. In shogun I had thousands upon thousands die chasing my horse archers across hills or simply bottlenecked on a bridge. Medieval saw entire generations of Frenchmen die to my armored swiss line. In Medieval 2 I incinerated more Hungarians and Turks in the gates of Constantinople than you could count. Shogun 2 was even worse. I remember Date and Shimizu sending and losing four to five full stacks of katana and daikatana samurai, that fought under my castle walls until almost the last man.


ac9dc5  No.15908598

>>15908540

>>15908590

Seriously, unless you're able to snipe their general even your average Joe McLevy will dig in and stand his ground like he's in a Sabaton song. Try the XIII century series or that Neocore crusader game and you'll see counters and morale done right.


050acc  No.15908659

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>>15908055

Avoid diplomacy like the plague

If the enemy has a shitton of units near a province you can't defend, just evacuate the soldiers instead or disband them if they're shit or replaceable units

99% of open field battles need some cavalry to bait enemy units into running into you and a lot of missile units to chip away at them

Defending is almost never worth it unless the province is really good, you spend more money rebuilding and training units than if you just let the AI sack it and then go and take it back

Move your capital to be the center of your country if you need stacks of gold

Don't leave out units in settlements that are far away from immediate danger (unless they're to keep public order or there's a revolt), it's expenses you don't need, much better to disband the units or to bring them up to the frontlines

Public order is the single most important mana of the game, the higher it gets the less you need to micromanage every single thing

Every TW game has a couple of units that have bullshit high defense, exploit them


622404  No.15908690

>>15908422

This, all of the subtitles on the battlefield that can make or break a battle are non-existent in these games, they're very basic


69cb79  No.15908738

I'm not very clever and a lot of my battles feel the same especially when I unlock artillery. I still win with minimal deaths but I don't feel any glory.


14fa1c  No.15908775

90% of all TW battles can be one with your basic hammer and anvil.


8bbc8d  No.15910328

>>15908590

lol are you retarded. unless ur playing modded versions here's what you do. make a few like 3-4 elite infantry like triarii or something. make a few shit units that are good at defense. hid all ur good units behind ur shit units. let the enemy attack you and get tired. when ur units have lost morale/theyre fatigued just use your generals overpowered tireless/battlecry. i don't know how many battles i've won with only 2 squads against like 10 but they're all exhausted and i can spam tireless every 90 seconds or whatever. was actually the only fun i've found in that game. recreating the mythos of 300. divided et impera or whatever that mod was just made the battles fucking 90 minutes long


d742b4  No.15911010

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>>15910328

Is this phoneposting or you already shitfaced? Great point actually. B-But why do you hate TwTw? Same reason I don't play attila or britania; cheapshit and magical panic buttons like the one you're crutching on but ones you couldn't find in older games.


f6f43c  No.15911025

>>15908738

If you feel confident then split up your forces. No sense marching around with a full stack when you could field 2 half stacks and take twice as many settlements.


c7bf70  No.15911044

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c7bf70  No.15911060

I can tell from the pics you posted that you're spreading your lines way too thin. I mean, maybe that's a thing in MP but logically speaking a pike phalanx needs to be THICC, not thin.


be961a  No.15911064

>>15908598

>Neocore crusader game

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