203a50 No.15898540
What are your go-to RPGs? What are some good ones that can hold up years later? SMT:Nocturne is obvious despite the random encounter shtick. Amazing what cell shading and unique artstyle does to keep visual longevity.
.Hack//G.U. really surprised me with how its presentation, characters and even gameplay has held up, despite the typical grind.
I was also getting back into Digimon Cyber Sleuth (the first one) recently and really liked the fun atmosphere and adventure mystery with the kooky sex bomb detective and your pure but dressed-like-a-slut best friend.
203a50 No.15898560
Also Devil Survivor (the first, the second sucks)
4a6d89 No.15898562
rpgs r 4 casuls
this is now a fps thread
8becf6 No.15898566
Have you tried playing the hard type hack for Nocturne?
203a50 No.15898569
>>15898562
>tfw we will never return
Considering what FPS has turned into, best to let it die.
be16d9 No.15898570
>>15898540
depends on what kind, but if I just want to have fun I mostly play new vegas and warband
>>15898562
well shit, I guess blood and fear are my go to fps, maybe avp2 and quake too, kinda impressive monolith made a lot of amazing fps
203a50 No.15898571
>>15898566
>the hard type hack for Nocturne
Never heard of it before now.
8becf6 No.15898580
>>15898571
I haven't tried it myself yet but it fixes the worthless stats like agility and makes magic builds more viable.
203a50 No.15898582
>>15898570
I could never get into new vegas, honestly. Never liked Fallout 3 to begin with so that might be it.
Warband though I heard is great. Got more mods for it than Vampire Bloodlines
b8c9ac No.15898590
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, &
Chrono Trigger, &
Persona 4.
Aside from action rpgs, I really rpgs like these ^ where you can strike your enemy first in the overworld. Always have, always will.
28c724 No.15898591
>>15898590
You should also try Grandia 1 and 2 then.
be16d9 No.15898592
>>15898582
it's very good, it has nice rpg elements, fine combat and allows you to fuck around a lot and have fun
203a50 No.15898597
>>15898580
Stat fixing sounds great!
>makes magic builds more viable.
Honestly I never had a problem with magic in Nocturne. Matter of fact, with how the bosses are often practically puzzles in themselves and with weaknesses almost always being magic-based it seemed like the only real choice to begin with - though pumping up strength just to one-shot some demons with your fist as you grind for Ongyo-ki is pretty fun too.
The one thing I have never done is get Masakado aka "the I WIN magatama"
>>15898590
>I really rpgs like these ^ where you can strike your enemy first in the overworld.
I hear the new Dragon Quest is like that. Looks great, though I'm waiting to see if the Switch version fixes what they did wrong with the original, meaning they let you marry Martina like in the 3DS version which they never brought over
cae1d8 No.15898600
Classic fallout, Wasteland 2, and Underrail.
For some reason I really like this type of game, maybe it's reminiscent of the DnD experience without the sweaty nerds in the basement.
28c724 No.15898601
Anyway, forgot to answer the OP, my go-to RPG would probably be Gothic 1 and 2.
b73f38 No.15898616
>>15898540
boi boi boi u beta git dat weeb ass shit up outaa ch'yea monica real tawk i playz dat reel shit monica
e73b07 No.15898651
Do you mean go-to to replay, go-to continue to play through as a series, or go-to to recommend to others?
6caa8d No.15898655
>>15898600
The only post with actual RPGs itt.
12db60 No.15898682
>>15898540
>What are your go-to RPGs?
Saga Frontier, Unlimited Saga, and Diablo 1 seem to have aged really well for me.
On a side note if they ever remake/remaster the original .hack 1-4 and they add the ability to switch weapons on the fly using the dpad that would be my most anticipated game(s).
2de913 No.15898683
>>15898655
You surprised after that stellar OP? Also, two other threads up.
b73f38 No.15898693
>>15898682
.hack ass monica
5a7ab9 No.15898703
I played Fire Emblem 7 about 6 or 7 times, which is tied for my most ever replays of a game, and is the only RPG that was able to do that for me iirc
4ce96a No.15898709
>>15898616
>megaman x command mission
That game is objectively shit.
I love it
f3418e No.15898772
Fallout 1, not many come to mind that have such an entertaining character build system and actually integrate it throughout the game.
ae5f75 No.15898790
Paper Mario is pure gold in a lot of ways that we'll never see again. TTYD was also good, I just don't personally favor it as much as the original.
0a6ed7 No.15898795
I think I could restart New Vegas with a gimmick character a million times and with a dozen new mods and be happy forever. I recently did a Kenshiro style character with 1 INT who fought exclusively with fists and heavy explosives. I had to play without any of my damage modifying mods but it was a shitton of fun.
1e5034 No.15898799
Super mario RPG is the only RPG i've ever replayed. so i guess that.
750b0a No.15898800
>>15898790
Now that's an hd remake I'd buy
8888e5 No.15898824
FE10 is very linear and somewhat consistent when played right, so when I feel like playing an RPG I go replay it.
1dbd8c No.15898849
Mostly due to CoC
SoC doesn't stay far behind though
203a50 No.15898859
>>15898849
If this is an RPG then what about Metro?
1dbd8c No.15898863
203a50 No.15898886
>>15898863
Would Metro be a kind of RPG? The original, mind you, not the sequel.
1dbd8c No.15898949
>>15898886
How?
Are you retarded?
e9a905 No.15898980
>>15898886
>hey, is this FPS an RPG?
471745 No.15899016
>>15898571
>Game designed about balancing buffs and debuffs
>lol what if I made it so now enemies can't be debuffed past -2/4 and you can only be buffed +2/4 while the enemies get to do the buffs and debuffs in their favour -4/4 and +4/4
>This causes a situation where you can now on hard mode where you take 980 almighty damage from the final bosses ultimate attack in the best case scenario and have to pray his follow up doesn't target you or is a multi target skill since he attacks twice per turn ( meaning you have to knowingly waste slots on normally worthless skills like life surge or unironically grind in a game known for rewarding move sets over stats and levels)
>What if I also made a majority of original spells redundant since my new ones are the same + debuffs are just hit a retarded amount of times.
>Also wouldn't it be funny if on full moons straight up boss fight encounters would happen when paired which will certainly over stretch your resources as you can potentially in any dungeon now fight 4-6 boss fights in a row.(in the 5th Kalpa you can end up fighting all 4 horsemen at once as a full moon encounter and imagine repeating this fight 2-3 times before finally getting to Metatron)
These are bad design ideas over hard mode implementations, over making encounters more push what skills you use to beat them it just inflates battles by limiting your set up while making enemies have no such restriction and tossing massive HP sponges at you till one hopefully gimmicks you out.
Shame because outside of attacks and how he manipulated stat shit there's good ideas like changing skill inheritance to not favour shit skills making fusion consistently faster to get things you want and fixing Dante to be a good party member late game.
db377a No.15899041
>jrpg
>role playing game
pick one
8196c4 No.15899056
How does someone successfully transition from real-time action rpg's to turn-based rpg's? I get that's a dumb question but i'd still like some advice as someone who wants to get into this genre.
Also what do you guys prefer? In terms of pros and cons with each type of battle system.
db377a No.15899241
>>15899056
What type of turn based RPG and what type of action RPG? If you mean japanese "role playing game" trash then don't read further. If talking about CRPGs, then play some more modern stuff like Expeditions: Conquistador, Expeditions: Viking and Divinity: Original Sin 1 and 2 if you want to ease into it.
I prefer real time combat due to faster and more intense gameplay. Turn based combat systems are usually really slow, have to be speedhacked and they rely on good encounter design to succeed. If the encounter design is bad, then the entire system will be. A good example of bad encounter design would be the god awful oilfield fight in Divinity: Original Sin 2. D:OS2 had the issue of the entire battlefield being covered in cursed electrified burning blood oil of -80000 HP per damage tick which made it really fucking annoying to play, and it was doubled down by the fact that they decided not to use a grid system and how much damage you took from moving through those damage pools of fuck you felt totally random. Every TB RPG has some sort of bad encounter design present somewhere in the game, I have yet to play one that has none at all. Expeditions Viking too, that game had really good encounter design overall but there had to be a few odd ones out that were really bad compared to the rest.
Overall, I think that Piranha Bytes already nailed what action combat should be with Gothic 2 which I believe to be the best Action RPG and a strong top 10 contender for best CRPG of all time.
0493b6 No.15899293
>>15898540
I may get butt blasted for saying this but
Digimon World for PSX is a grand ol'time for me
Tales of the Abyss for PS2 is a game I will always remember fondly
Kindgdom Hearts for all the shit we give them are quite fun (I only played 2 and RE:CoM)
Golden Sun for GBA is quite fucking good
Bonus track: Bugs Bunny Lost in Time for PSX is a platformer collectaton i will always shill for
de7561 No.15899321
>>15899241
Of those entry level ones, which would you recommend the most? I've tried a few TB cRPGs over the years like Fallout, Planescape and Divinity and they never click with me. I play them for a couple of hours, feel underwhelmed/bored and then stop playing.
c1c835 No.15899332
>>15898540
The two and only Gothics 1 & 2. As a matter of fact Im waiting for "Dzieje Khorinis" mod bysome Polish autists to come out and relieve my childhood. Game world and atmospehere is legendary and cannot be imitated. 1st one is just pure nostalgia, second's better in every way.
>>15899241
you know it
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=Gl6g9CZTZL0
db377a No.15899334
>>15899321
It's up to you. Conquistador is apparently quite hard and most people consider DOS1 combat better than DOS2, so DOS1 or Vikings would probably be the best.
9d0fc6 No.15899369
>>15899332
This. Or Kingdom Come recently, it kinda feels very similar minus the fantasy elements.
Never finished Gothic 2 though, it dragged on a bit too long for me.
5cc6e6 No.15899458
>>15898540
Action or turn-based?
4c07a8 No.15899495
>>15899458
Action, only because action rpgs have less boring exposition and more gameplay. I'd totally say turn-based if there was one that was literally just dungeons, towns and battles for its entire length.
098372 No.15899497
>>15898540
nocture was pure shit. horrible turn-based stone age gayplay and disgusting artstyle.
ab00d3 No.15899641
New Vegas is always comfy to revisit. Even though it's so obviously unfinished it has a certain charm which very few big-budget games released in the past 20 years have.
0d3a55 No.15899643
>>15899458
how well do the souls games play using a keyboard?
d8e03d No.15899653
>>15899643
like trash like everything but 3 genres on m/kb.
01f8be No.15899672
>>15899643
It goes well. I played them in PC, and didnt bother plugin in a controller for them regardless of the autists saying it is better wit it, so I dont have experience with them in consoles, but the games default controls are good , and if I made some change, it was a minor one I cant remember.
f75bdb No.15899691
>>15898600
>>15898772
I don't understand, what is it that people actually find compelling about replaying this shallow piece of crap? Fallout has only 2 mandatory dungeons in the entire game and non-existent challenge due to a big mess of fundamentally broken mechanics.
c1c835 No.15899897
>>15899369
Finished the title so many times I don't remember but playing through first 3 chapters and making it through initial faction squabble is the most enjoyable I gotta admit. Did just that even more
72f2a3 No.15899906
>>15898540
dragon quest 3 or 5/tales of symphonia or smt strange journey always works
very excited for the remaster of tales of vesperia on the pc since i never played it
fcd49a No.15899963
Falcom ARPGs are pretty lit for the most part
dd46d2 No.15900006
Quest for Glory for nostalgia, and because it's a good casual timewaster.
Phantasy Star (both classic and online) because they're good
Fallout New Vegas (and to a much lesser extent FO3) because it tickles my garbage collecting autism, and New Vegas had a decent story.
1dc84f No.15900011
>>15899963
This. Can't go wrong with Ys series.
d5f11a No.15900034
>>15898569
anyone else miss how cod used to have vehicles? I miss using them to glitch out of the map and tk
abdcc3 No.15900137
>>15899897
Hobo mode is the best, I also like how the game pushes you to challenge yourself if you want to maximize experience gain.
>Complete all faction recruitment quests before joining one of them
>Before entering the valley, genocide every single creature and do all quests available
>Enter valley at ~lvl 14
>Genocide all the orcs and monsters
>Leave valley buff as fuck
>Continue to curbstomp everything in the game
My biggest gripe with the game is that permanent stat bonuses count towards LP cost increase. Either you're a retard and use them directly and screw yourself over in the long run, use them in the middle of the game and screw yourself over moderately or you use them towards the end of the game and only get to benefit from the bonuses for a chapter or two at most.
Some mods fix this but most mod makers think the vanilla system is fair, I know one mod that addresses this but it doesn't have as much content as others which don't fix it.
abdcc3 No.15900167
>>15900137
Also the way I'd make the permanent bonus tablets/potions to not affect LP cost but also not make the game unbalanced is to difficulty lock a lot of the tablets (especially tier 2 and tier 3) and ingredients.
>Add tablets and ingredients in places with shit loot whilst also creating some new caves and places to explore
>Put strong enemies to guard them
That's also one of the weaker points of vanilla NotR, a lot of places you can explore have shit loot (since gold and consumables are pretty worthless) and makes it feel not very rewarding despite often having challenging enemies.
cf761c No.15900197
>>15899241
>he tarded it up on the oilfield in D:OS2 by walking through the fucking oilfield in a game series where setting oil on fire is a common theme
The fuck you doing, anon? Get up on top of the rigging and bait stuff.
abdcc3 No.15900205
>>15900197
Or use one of the many AoE skills which clear terrain.
7f4420 No.15900211
>>15899906
>tales of symphonia
Tried that out recently - it has some of the worst writing i've ever come across.
2eaaff No.15900377
>>15898540
>What are your go-to RPGs? What are some good ones that can hold up years later?
Advance Wars Days of Ruin if we count Strategy RPGs. I like Dual Strike as well, but DoR just feels like a better fit for me.
Breath of Fire V: Dragon Quarter never feels old to me, and despite only having 3 characters has one of the best party systems out there.
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey. Never touched Redux, but the Schwartzweld is a great location and I dig the combat and mission structure.
2eaaff No.15900393
>>15900377
Fuck I guess I can count Persona 2 as well. I like the story and the combat is inoffensive.
6d4d3d No.15900461
>>15898591
>Grandia 2
MY. NIGGA.
a2fe3b No.15900514
>>15898849
>>15898980
>>15898949
>STALKER is an RPG
Can someone explain to me what makes an RPG an RPG because I'm confused as hell.
01cc04 No.15900534
Replay em all every other year or so.
c6941c No.15900543
>>15899495
Look into Etrian Odyssey, it’s very light on story.
fcd49a No.15900547
>>15900011
>Just naming Ys
Zwei!! II, Xanadu Next, the Brandish series, Gurumin, Nayuta, The Legend of Xanadu I & II etc
d2f5b8 No.15900555
04c62b No.15900569
>>15899332
oh fuck off. the gothic games aren't even rpgs. they are glorified action games that do the action terribly. highly overrated series
d8572d No.15900651
>>15899332
The Gothic series gets my vote as well. Finished Gothic 3 with the community patch a few days ago, wonderful game.
I might try my hand at the first Risen now hoping that it atleast has a similar difficulty.
abdcc3 No.15900758
>>15900651
Risen 1 is solid and a lot better than Gothic 3. After that I'd say play ELEX since it's one of the better games in the series whilst Risen 2 & 3 are the worst and their story isn't even connected to Risen 1 (G2>G1>R1=ELEX>G3>R3>R2).
6ffbd5 No.15900847
>>15898540
I've played more RPGs than I can count. None of them have held up to the joy I felt when I first played Morrowind, except for /tg/ games. My entire life is running after that initial feeling, like a drug addict.
1dbd8c No.15900863
>>15900514
>Inventory system
>Progression system
>Decision making
>Stats
>Immersive world
>Actual fucking roleplaying
Nigger S.T.A.L.K.E.R is more of an RPG than all of the JRPGs listed here.
How autistic do you have to be to think an RPG means stat based progression and nothing else?
01cc04 No.15900927
>>15900863
You may in fact be the autist here anon. There's a very unfortunate truth that you can't seem to deal with:
role-playing table top experience =/= role-playing video game
abdcc3 No.15900934
>>15900847
>Fucking loved Morrowind as a kid
>As an adult get bored after only a few days
The game is too easy to break even without using glitches or obvious alchemy abuses. I don't like games that force me to hamper myself in order to not become a god that shitstomps everything with minimal effort.
At the very least I want to feel like I earned the status of ultimate genocide machine, Morrowind just hands it to you on a platter and lets you reach it without any struggle.
Gothic 2 does it right where it actually forces you to take on challenges if you want to become stronger, in Morrowind you can get to a point where you're able to effortlessly one-shot nearly all opposition before killing a single enemy.
0b0c2c No.15900989
>>15900927
Define it better then, don't just say, "it's wrong bcs arbitrary reason X" (which you can infer a multitude of things from).
Provide backing qualities that must be true or false, and what aspects makes a game with RPG elements an RPG game.
As, from my pov stalker is an FPS game with strong RPG elements as mentioned by the prev anon.
>role-playing table top experience =/= role-playing video game
Role-playing P&P table top games were obviously inspirations for the genre.
They're distinct mediums, but they do overlap on a lot of aspects in terms of mechanics.
109eb9 No.15901087
>>15900847
I am sick of you Morrofags. The game is shit. You are shit. You have shit taste. You massive fucking faggot. Morrowind shilling should be a bannable offense. The same goes for any faggot that shills any one of the Witcher games. Witcher 3 is an overhyped shitfest with boring gameplay, asinine plot lines, and muh stronk womyn.
109eb9 No.15901113
>>15901107
no, but it should be
d19d14 No.15901114
>>15900034
I hate vehicles in Cod III. So claustrophobic.
0b0c2c No.15901121
>>15901113
kek, understandable, it is an iconic game so it's talked about a lot.
ca7260 No.15901326
>>15901284
You can do the same thing with Morrowind and Daggerfall
109eb9 No.15901442
>>15901284
I see, I fucking love Morrowind now. I mean it just blows God-Skyrim out of the water. My eyes have been opened. Morrowind is great. Thanks…
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95a499 No.15901634
Some of my favourites include mainline SMT pre-IV and Etrian Odyssey series.
>>15900377
>Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey. Never touched Redux
Don't bother, it's shit.
18ab0d No.15901708
>Nocturne
My nigga. I played it last summer like 6 times in a row so I could get all Reason endings and 100% it.
I've also made gay-ass maps of every location on graph paper as a makeshift guide
I also get a kick to play pic related around late autumn. I want to put in the effort to 100% it eventually, but it has bullshit like non-guaranteed 99F recruits, Mew in general, and FUCKING KECLEON.
Granted, it's probably not the type of game as you intend the thread to be.
2eaaff No.15902269
>>15901634
>Don't bother, it's shit.
As I've been told multiple times. I also enjoy the EO series but I've never been able to finish any of them besides III. I wind up getting to the last stratum and just burn out.
203a50 No.15902723
>>15899016
>This causes a situation where you can now on hard mode where you take 980 almighty damage from the final bosses ultimate attack in the best case scenario and have to pray his follow up doesn't target you or is a multi target skill since he attacks twice per turn
Nevermind. That's more than simple stat "fixing". That is outright asinine.
2062a6 No.15902727
>>15899056
That's a tasty Suzy right there.
71409a No.15902733
What is actually bad about the strange journey remake
924a55 No.15902743
>>15902733
The Marie is a Mary Sue with an improbable and frankly contrived backstory that invalidates the original game
59569c No.15902749
>>15898562
>>15898569
>good goy simulators
WW2 games are kike propaganda.
2efef2 No.15904589
>>15902749
Except the ones that let you play as the good guys. Those get (((shut down))) pretty quick though. "We're sorry, our singleplayer campaign was buggy we don't want this to misrepresent our game so we're going to stop supporting the singleplayer campaign and disable it completely, if you wanna play it you gotta use third-party mods." At least we still have Silent Hunter 3 for fully featured AAA Nazi campaigns.
f236d2 No.15904662
I find myself coming back to it time and again. The music, the charming characters and the feeling of adventure always makes me feel comfy.
6d70b0 No.15904694
>>15901087
Morrowind is better than any of the games you like, nigger. It's okay though; you've admitted to everyone that you have shit taste, and admitting it is the first step.
Witcher 3 is dogshit, though
e73b07 No.15905378
>>15904662
I honestly really enjoyed it myself, and will probably give it a replay in a year or two. Feels like a game from an era past its own, and for the most part in a good way.