26fa68 No.15887855
Case in point Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. I got this on release as a kid and it was the first game i put over 1000 hours into. Before Monster Hunter or Dark Souls this was my first massive timesink and the reason i got a charger pack for my GBA at the time.
When it came out there was a lot of 'man fuck this awful game' sentiment and looking back its easy to see why. People were expecting another War of the Lions universe tactics. I've since beaten both tactics games and love them both for very different reasons. WotL's is a very political story that makes you care for the characters in a Shakespearian way. FFTA is a more moral debate over what is reality and is it doing the right thing to save someone from a fantasy if their life is arguably shittier back in the real world because shitty as it is its still real.
I think some of that is what burned people on release. You are a schoolkid thats moved to the American midwest town of St.Ivalice. After starting your new school you, your brother and two children from the school investigate a magic book which during the night are they sleep turns the sleepy town buried in winter snow into the tropical/desert nation of Ivalice. Townsfolk become Viera, Nu Moh, Bangaa and Moogles. Cripples can walk, drunks become hard working noblemen and absentee parents are always there for the kids they have the the time in the world for. Both your character knows this isn't real and looks for a way home. Something other people who are aware of the switch don't want to do because life here is much better in some fashion. Is it right to end the fantasy and get back? or is it selfish? or is it selfish to shut yourself away in a picturebook world of make believe just because you personally are aware of the change?
In the grand scope of final fantasy games i don't think its as good as War of the Lions' plot but i think there are several mainline games with weaker stories than this.
The sad thing nowadays is i see lots of people go 'oh that game? what a piece of shit' based on reputation alone. They didn't play it and have a bad experience. They heard the grey(ing)beards of the 90's express a personal grudge against it and went with it.
Honestly i think a lot of people would really enjoy this game a lot if they grabbed the rom and VBA or something and gave it a go and its a shame an undeserved rep has put so many people off giving it a try assuming its another X-2 style let down spin off when it really isn't.
What game do you think has a bad rep it doesn't deserve?
Autistic anons about to screech about this being an unpopular opinion thread, its not. Its about games that are considered shit through misinformation or incorrect word of mouth no matter how mainstream or obscure it is. Quality is not opinion so save the rant
8a529d No.15887868
>>15887855
people thought it was shit because of the judge system, not the plot. In fact, i've never seen a single person refer to the plot as being the real reason they did not like the game.
It deserves the hate for introducing a mechanic nobody liked or asked for.
26fa68 No.15887877
>>15887868
The judge system complaint is absolutely fair but i knew a metric ton of people at the time complaining "Squaresoft turned the series into kiddy shit on a kiddy console" and nowadays i know people that never played it saying "i heard it was some kind of dumb kids version of tactics".
d5a61e No.15887898
the gameplay is heavily neutered because of the judge system
not only is it RNG but also anti-fun and removing strategy by limiting options , and not in a good way that encourages you to use different tactics. It's just not engaging or fun.
6d604e No.15887907
Deus Ex; The story is fine, but everything else about it is horrible.
3db5b2 No.15887953
>>15887855
Final Fantasy 7 does not deserve its reputation. It's a good game, and most of its mechanics are fun, but it epitomizes the 'wider audience' meme. All three SNES entries and Final Fantasy 3 have better stories, the 3D graphics are shit-tier, the music is objectively worse than other games before AND after, and more than just a few spells and summons are obscenely long for no good reason. Also, why does Bahamut have like three fucking different summons? Sephiroth is a bitch; Kefka was a better villain in every regard.
The best part of the game was the combat. The materia system is unique and provides amazing customization, and the limit break system provides clarity in your power spikes in desperate battles and long farming grinds alike, unlike the desperation attacks FF6 semi-randomly had.
By no means is it a bad game maybe for some people, but it isn't 11/10 like Square seems to want people to believe. Especially for an unfinished, weird mess like it is.
26fa68 No.15887961
>>15887898
Worst i ever got was a few 'magic and physical banned, welp time to soft reset' but i imagine the anti law either was just a 'eh this will fix it' or the random law generation was a bit fucked and anti law cards were added to counter it.
But it was nice to get a no magic fight and all the enemies were mages or something. I once got a no beasts allowed on a beast map and the judge just went in a loop and red carded them all.
b536c8 No.15887978
I remember crying like a lil bitch when this game came out, cause my dad said I could pick it up with my lawn mower money but he forgot
It was worth the tears
f0557f No.15887988
>but i think there are several mainline games with weaker stories than this
This would mean something if XIII wasn't a fucking trilogy.
64376c No.15887995
>>15887855
I love FFTA and I also enjoy FFTA2, although not as much
However, some things about the game are very annoying:
>classes are limited by race
>judge system sends you to jail (wouldn't be a big deal if it just gave a slight penalty, but removing the offending char from the match is annoying)
>game world is small
>time mage is ridiculously overpowered
>possible to 2-man all of the endgame with a time mage/animist + thief/ninja. you just run around one-shotting everyone.
The plot itself I thought was amazing, and I've put tons of hours into it and into FFTA2.
Overall it's a very good game, albeit with room for improvement.
26fa68 No.15887999
>>15887988
I think it has a better story than 1 through 5. i love some of those games a lot but i think FFTA has a more effective story at times. Like the conflict of your brother turning you into the guards to be arrested because in this world he's not a cripple bound to a wheelchair and you feel betrayed but at the same time you can understand and even then you know you gotta recripple him by restoring reality. Shits heavy.
27f984 No.15888027
>>15887855
>I got this as a kid
That's the only reason you like it
64376c No.15888033
>>15888027
It's a good game. Not being as good as WotL doesn't make it bad.
26fa68 No.15888054
>>15888027
I'm replaying it right now because a clemps video reminded me of it. Shits good fun.
f9a6aa No.15888210
>>15887855
>Games with a reputation you don't think they deserve
Fuck you Arin.
3e322c No.15888216
Aurura 4x and Dwarf Fortress
They're not actually hard, in fact they're relatively easy. The entire learning curve comes from the abysmal UI.
ecf055 No.15888217
>>15887855
I have never seen anyone shit talk either that game or the DS sequel, the only criticisms I've ever seen thrown at it was "Marche was the true villain who fucked over everyone".
cd5e1f No.15888250
>>15888216
Actually aurora is just downright unplayable after a certain point, you can't automate critical things and it turns the micromanagement into a fucking nightmare and second job. Distant Worlds understood this shit which is why it's a far better game.
786e08 No.15888483
Is the godawful Gamecube port and its gorillion even shittier ports to every platform under the sun the reason a good chunk of the fandom hates this game?
The Dreamcast version was peak late 90s comfy.
0ea320 No.15888507
>>15888250
>Distant Worlds
What's the point in playing if everything is automated by default and doing it yourself is just going to have the same results as the automation doing it?
3f80e2 No.15888508
>>15888210
>Broken piece of shit with 3 bosses and worst graphics than the predecessor
Simon quest was done better by literally any other Metroidvania after SOTN.
f9a6aa No.15888538
>>15888508
>being stuck in one castle instead of exploring through multiple locations is better
Nah.
Not to mention that CV2 is a "Metroidvania" that still plays like an actual proper Castlevania game.
3f80e2 No.15888555
>>15888538
You can say the same about CotM and they are both shit. OoE did the "exploration outside of the castle" and "village quests" better. WAY better.
c8a44f No.15888961
Freedom Wars
It was dismissed offhand as another "shitty Monster Hunter clone", but it actually did a lot different. In particular, the thorn that Sony attempted poorly to hype to hell and back ended up being actually good and not a gimmick like I expected. It's uses include travel, climbing onto enemies to sever their limbs, creating defensive barriers or healing spots, and even directly healing allies. Despite having only 3 melee weapon categories, there were 3 subcategories in each weapon with different movesets. The guns were actually useful against both enemy infantry and abductors. This game had a lot going for it, but between a god awful story that went nowhere (literally ends at the point where most games start getting into the meat of the plot) and a weapon upgrade system that makes pay to win MMO crafting look reasonable, the game never shook the "shitty MH clone" label.
34d6b8 No.15889228
I'm one of those that was a massive fan of Tactics when it was new and absolutely lost my mind when they announced a sequel, only to be so disappointed in what I saw that I never even picked the game up in the end. My grievances are thus:
I'm just gonna get the Judge system out of the way right off the bat. What the fuck.
But this is actually the biggest thing: the tone absolutely vanished. Tactics was an extremely reserved fantasy world. There was no array of playable fantasy races: the fact that there were monsters advanced enough to wear clothes (goblins and mindflayers) was exploring the fringe of setting possibility to consider. That Moogles are summonable because they're an extinct species is deep and curiosity-provoking lore. The art was clearly designed with a sort of neo-Romanticism that Japs are so very good at, pretty but with a somber warmth like a fireside storybook. Designs were actually pretty realistic. The conflicts were, for the most part, extremely down to Earth and relatable for anyone with even a middle school education in history, only veering into high fantasy at the very end. Relationships are forged in a reasonable manner between understandably cautious people trying to let their idealism occasionally poke out between the blades of necessity. It's a story of knights and castles and kingdoms and family and fair maidens needing rescuing, with plenty of magic inbetween. Half the story is about undergoing incredible and unembellished hardship to do the right thing, without glory or even dignity. Your party probably slept in the mud more than once while traveling the world map.
In comes Tactics Advanced with a designed core cast of named characters wearing bright colors and following clear archetypal design and personal story arcs that are just thrown onto the table, like they were hoping to make a recurring subseries out of it with recognizable faces. Everybody's 50% more anime. The girl has pink hair for Christ's sake. In follows the spread of "please remember that this is a game inspired by tabletop gaming" fantasy races like we just dropped into a Tatooine cantina, with all the prerequisite fur and scale bait. And then the game goes and forces you to acknowledge this wild deviation in setting by locking your gameplay mechanics (job classes) to your Neopets composition. The plot opens with a reality-warping MacGuffin sucking you and your carefully groomed band of friends into a literal fantasy world, reducing the gravity of the proceeding events to less meaningful than an isekai as in an isekai the other world is at least real in some sense. At least I can be satisfied knowing that it means FFTA isn't canon to FFT. The character designs are atrocious even by JRPG standards, with The World Ends With You anatomy sneaking under outfits designed by a helicopter rotor in a secondhand shop. Things are just thrown on like somebody hit Randomize in a character creator. And from what I've seen of story interactions, the characters act exactly like I expected them to: like Saturday morning cartoon characters. And why does the setting even pretend to take place in Ivalice if they were going to throw out literally everything but the name anyways?
Final Fantasy Tactics feels crafted. Written. Tactics Advance feels like the result of a boardroom meeting. It would have been fine as its own thing, but calling it a proper sequel is like calling Kingdom Hearts a sequel to Final Fantasy VI. The names and some of the conventions are there, but they're so utterly disparate in style that you could mistake them not just for different franchises, but different developers.
64376c No.15889335
>>15889228
>the girl has pink hair for Christ's sake
Did you actually play the game? She died it pink because it was naturally white and she hated that.
The game was obviously not meant to be a sequel to Tactics from a story or aesthetic perspective, but solely from a gameplay perspective.
You have a point bout naming the setting Ivalice, though; there was zero reason to name the FFTA setting as 'Ivalice' since it was completely different. Other than that, your complaint sounds like someone complaining about how FFIX sucked because the setting and tone was so different to VII, even though the nature of the FF series shows that common tone, setting, and plot continuity isn't a necessity.
7ddde9 No.15889419
>>15887855
Even as someone dumped over a hundred hours into it, it's understandable that some get upset by the law system, especially later in the game when you get laws that contradict each other and enemies who have sudden magic powers to not go to jail even when breaking laws. God help you if you don't have the right antilaw cards.
Marche did nothing wrong. Mewt is nigger faggot of the highest order.
>>15889228
>It would have been fine as its own thing, but calling it a proper sequel is like calling Kingdom Hearts a sequel to Final Fantasy VI.
Why bitch about this when you just said in the same post
>At least I can be satisfied knowing that it means FFTA isn't canon to FFT.
The game is clearly meant to be Final Fantasy Tactics for Kids, FFT2
And even then FFT is just a casualized Tactics Ogre.
>And from what I've seen of story interactions, the characters act exactly like I expected them to: like Saturday morning cartoon characters.
Makes sense considering the game is clearly targeted to 12 year olds and where the main casts is the around that age. You don't seem to understand that FFTA wasn't meant for hardened FFT vets, but kids who probably never played strategy JRPG before.
7ddde9 No.15889470
>>15888483
Parts of SA1 certainly haven't aged well, and Big's campaign is a fucking slog with its barely functioning fishing mechanics, but the subsequent ports really do break certain parts of the game like physics and collision detection. Everyone says you can easily fall through oops, but the only one I've ever fallen out of is the one transitory tube in Final Egg, and that was the DC original. The only reason to play the later ports is because of the skip cutscene feature.
4cbf76 No.15889493
>>15889335
>She died it pink because it was naturally white
>young girl
>naturally white hair
Not exactly any less animu.
34d6b8 No.15889512
>>15889335
>>15889419
>Did you actually play the game?
<"…only to be so disappointed in what I saw that I never even picked the game up in the end. "
Pink is still a design choice that indicates the world environment, which itself was jarring. The same motivation in FFT would result in a natural dye color you only are informed of being fake with a mention somewhere.
>it's not meant to be the aesthetic/it was marketed for kids
Clearly. But that ties back to the core problem of them trying to spin a game with similar mechanics as a true sequel. They knew there was a fan outcry for a continuation, but they made a kids version instead of, rather than in addition to, a real successor. And the subseries died out quickly because they marketed a TRPG to children without dumbing it down to Pokemon Mystery Dungeon levels of non-strategy. They tried to have their older audience and eat their cake too with a single installment, eventually pleasing nobody.
>>15889493
I'd consider it forgivable if being albino was a part of her character and covering it up/trying to fit in was a major part of her escapism character arc. But yeah, pink makes it unsalvagable because it's a call for attention, not subtlety.
2a91d7 No.15889543
>>15887961
See I fucking loved making a team specifically capable of winning a magic and physical damage banned match.
34d6b8 No.15889548
>>15889543
What do you do, just drown them in status effects and wait for the poison?
7ddde9 No.15889638
>>15889512
>But that ties back to the core problem of them trying to spin a game with similar mechanics as a true sequel. They knew there was a fan outcry for a continuation
Except they fucking didn't. You even say so in your fucking post
>At least I can be satisfied knowing that it means FFTA isn't canon to FFT.
Jesus, is your fucking comprehension that bad?
>They tried to have their older audience
That was what War of the Lions and Tactics Ogre on PSP were meant for. Plus I don't recall Square ever saying they intended to make a true FFT sequel. Ever since it was announced, FFTA was clearly meant to be a handheld game for kids to play at recess. If you heard otherwise, that's on you for believing rumors and actually staying up to date on the game's release.
64376c No.15889651
>>15889512
Why do you think it was supposed to be a sequel in the first place?
Is FFIX supposed to be a sequel to FFVIII? No? Then why is TA supposed to be a sequel to Tactics?
>well, they both have the word 'tactics' in their name
That's because of the gameplay which is common to both, not necessarily anything to do with setting or aesthetic choice. Being disappointed at FFTA for not being a sequel to FFT is like being disappointed at FFIX for not being a sequel to FFVIII. Retarded.
7d674d No.15889659
>>15889548
There were typically ways to get around laws without using anti-law cards. I remember someone using counter and doublecast to get around Dmg2Animal law for example or using a beastmaster to have the animals attack each other instead.
Fight only applies to the standard attack, so skills, techniques, and magic obviously can get around it. The type of magic banned is usually specified like color magic, spirit, summon, holy, or time so naturally you would just use magic that isn't banned.
The laws are an annoyance, but the game gives you plenty of ways to get around them. Of course it's much easier to just wait out the shit laws and fight when the law of the day doesn't cripple you.
c572ea No.15889674
>>15889548
>He doesn't know how broken petrify is on ninjas
Look at this dork
64376c No.15889684
>>15889674
Ninjas are broken as fuck in FFTA.
c572ea No.15889809
>>15889684
Yeah you're right, I should've phrased that better.
>>15889548
>He doesn't know that ninjas can get petrify
Look at this dork
273cab No.15889979
wolf girl with you has a reputation as the never ever game but it actually came out. the only thing wrong with it is you cant fuck her asshole.
it should be the forever ever game
7582cd No.15890134
FFTA was the first game I ever emulated, and I loved it so much I decided to buy it to play On my DS
First playthrough your standard 6 party with marche as the fighter, etc
Second slam through with 2 hunters, montblanc gunner (shit but who cares), and viera sniper
FFTA2 was "better" but it didn't feel as good as the first, the first has a perfect campy feel, plus the other 2 races added are gay as fuck.
a8618e No.15890152
>>15889979
Can you retype that in English as I can not read spastic.
41ed27 No.15890156
>>15890152
HE WANTS TO FUCK THE WOLF GIRL IN HER ASSHOLE
131e2c No.15890188
>>15888508
>it took over a decade for any game to improve upon the original innovator
wowee
c7093a No.15890230
>>15888483
What about the entire series (2D games included) getting shat on for the longest time because of game journos/retards not knowing how to play a kids game without dying?
>>15888210
Wasn't it the AVGN who started the whole bad rep for CV2? (Despite admitting that it's an alright but flawed game.)
f0e1fb No.15890432
>>15890134
A considerable amount of effort was put into breaking FFTA's gamebreakers for balance purposes. FFTA2 is practically break-proof and very balanced as a result, but that also meant that there was a lot less fun to be had in building characters.
The game's plot was very lackluster, too.
72ad24 No.15890604
>>15887855
Between the law system, that only grew more retarded the more time you invested into the game, bad story with uninteresting characters (how do you go from FFT to muh hair and muh legs?), permanent missables in a game that you are expected to put hundreds of hours into (including a mission that you need a second GBA and another copy of the game to access) and it being inferior to an older game that it bore the name of, it deserved what it got.
I have games that I like more than seemingly anyone else in the world, but I'm not about to overlook their flaws, or the reasons why they are hated, either.
8a13ca No.15890655
>>15887995
>two man
Try one. MC Paladin/Ninja with double Excaliburs. Huge amounts of armor and enemies just die, no questions asked. Nothing threatens him (and for enemies that absorb Holy just sub in the next two powerful swords).
What I would like from the game is being able to have larger parties, fight larger parties, and not be so easy in the endgame. Of course the judge system was awful but everyone complained about that already.
950bd5 No.15890689
Trails in the Sky being a good game. You have to desperate for waifus if you're willing to sit through a 30 minute unskippable cutscene. Nothiing can justify that shit.
6ed443 No.15890692
>>15888210
I'm sorry you don't have the high IQ required to beat this masterpiece.
f9a6aa No.15890705
>>15890230
>Wasn't it the AVGN who started the whole bad rep for CV2?
To some degree. Early on there were a lot of kids that parroted him as if his humorous reviews were real reviews but it became clear pretty quickly that the Nerd was a character that James plays and not exactly his personal take on things. Even in his big multipart Castlevania review he sort of breaks character about his "hate" for Simon's quest.
Egoraptor on the other hand absolutely believes every thing he said in that Sequelitis episode even though it's clear that he's nearly as bad at games a DSP and his whole shtick was animation not video games. Arin is pretty much a Extra Credits tier game expert. I still think it's funny about how passive aggressive he got about the Sonic Mania animation.
cd59b3 No.15890746
TA is garbage.
Makes zero sense for a judge to rng ban shit. "SORRY NO SWORDS" and your best guys are fucking swords or some other shit. That is NOT how you do difficulty. Thats a terrible mechanic. Game is trash.
9a5fe1 No.15890748
>>15887855
I never played FFT, so my opinion on FFTA would be different. Thing I liked most was all the classes + customizing between them.
I was super disappointed with FFTA2. It felt way too similar and I lost interest when all the customization was like 90% the same.
Never had an issue with the story. In fact, that people meme about Marche being the villain is probably a sign that the world building and plot is a strong point.
>>15887868
The judge system was so bad I had forgotten its existence.
ebfe67 No.15890795
>>15889979
I was a bit disappointed with this game in that it was too short. It was still a decent quality, but I would've preferred more.
273cab No.15890865
>>15890795
right, more sex scenes such as in her anus would have extended the length of the game and my erection
ebd87f No.15890966
>>15887855
The retarded kiddy theme is gay. Fuck that shitty game and the sequel.
273cab No.15891023
>>15890966
but theres chocolate rabbits everywhere how can you resist?
cd25df No.15891053
>>15887868
Worst part was that it was slow as fuck to play. You had to wait 20-30 seconds between choosing actions because of how slow the engine was.
f2cbfd No.15891116
You can't complain the world isn't real when it's a god damn Isekai.
Also of all the bullshit in the game, nobody ever talks about mithral weapons being rare as fuck. It's impossible to use combos or master any class since the weapon that teaches them will never, ever fucking drop.
FFTA2 was mechanically better aside from all items being based on random loot and an even more retarded main plot (The main character literally decides to wait for enough shit to happen so he can go home). They literally could have skipped Luso's existence entirely and it wouldn't change the plot much.
>>15889659
Anti-law cards don't come around till really fucking late.
aede24 No.15891125
????
I thought FFTA was welll loved
f2cbfd No.15891143
While we're talking about FFT and undeserved reputations: Cid is not half as broken as he's made out to be. He joins really late in the game and FFT was so trivial to break (fists on a ninja) I have no idea how anyone got to him without breaking it.
>>15890230
Nah, Simon's Quest always had the cryptic as fuck "puzzles" (even before the bad translation) and grinding.
>>15890134
>not liking Girra
>>15890432
There are a few ways to break A2. Reverse Item+double item with healing items kills everything before the post game. Blood Price Summoner with absorb robes.
>>15891125
Gameplay wise once you ignore the retarded plot and learn to deal with laws (slash play a romhack without them) it's great. The story is just pure ass.
f9a6aa No.15891146
>>15890748
>>15887868
I didn't mind the judge system half as much as them making all spells ans special attacks resolve instantly. That took a lot of the tactics out of the game and made a bunch of abilities redundant to others. I can't forgive there being no geomancers or recruitable monsters either. Do you think she dyes her hair all over HAHA
f70ac7 No.15891165
That fucking GameCube game with the Cthulu lore that spooped idiots by doing shit like having a fake volume graphic turn the audio down by getting your Sanity meter low which NEVER EVER EVER HAPPENS IF YOU AREN'T TOTAL FUCKING SHIT AT VIDEOGAMES. What the fuck kind of game hides all of the cool shit behind a fail state?
cd25df No.15891179
>>15891165
That shit also only happened with any regularity if you were bad and playing against one of the three antagonists.
f9a6aa No.15891194
>>15891143
>Simon's Quest always had the cryptic as fuck "puzzles" (even before the bad translation) and grinding.
What I have never figured out is why do people complain about the red crystal and Deborah cliff? The blue crystal is what always fucked me up as a kid. I would usually end up jumping into the lake instead of kneeling to drain the water. You get red crystal later so by that point you should have already figured out how to "use" the crystals and the hint tells you where to use it.
I had the same problem with Ninja Turtles on the NES. I would always fuck up and try to jump between buildings when I got the grappling hook rather than walk forward and let the turtles auto use it.
92d87b No.15891275
>>15887868
>not the plot
The plot was utter shit.
>>15887855
>Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
It was garbage and killed the Tactics series.
>You are a schoolkid thats moved to the American midwest town of St.Ivalice
That's fanfic-tier.
>>15888217
>I have never seen anyone shit talk either that game or the DS sequel
Anon. You need to be over 18 to post here. FFTA and its sequel were fucking cancer on the tactics series.
>>15889228
>It would have been fine as its own thing
I actually agree with this. Had they used a title other than tactics, it would have been fine as its own thing. However, they didn't and it needs to remain in the garbage can along with the niggers that bought it.
>>15891125
>I thought FFTA was welll loved
Tactics is. Advanced is for niggers.
970292 No.15891416
3d563b No.15891437
SRPGs that aren't Langrisser, Fire Emblem, Rance or Majin Tensei are shit
65589a No.15891682
>>15891116
>You can't complain the world isn't real when it's a god damn Isekai.
Thats an issue i always have with some opinions on the game. It ISN'T an Isekai at all. Isekai means 'Different World, in which the protagonist is transported to another reality or universe'.
In FFTA St.Ivalice is turned into Ivalice. Its towns people turn into the Viera and Nu-moh. Its roads turn into cobblestone streets. Because its all one bullied childs escapist fantasy that he wants the world to be like his favourite game 'Final Fantasy' and he says so right after buying the magic book.
Thats what makes the story interesting. The tutorial is a snowball fight where Mewt is attacked by bullies with rocks in their snowballs. When Mewts wishes turn the town into Ivalice early on Marche is attacked by Zombies all bearing the same name as the bullies because they are in fact the bullies. A bullied childs wish turned them into walking corpses and March had to kill them in self defence. Every npc who dies is a citizen of the town whos not back at the end. March knows and is horrified by this since most dont even know what they used to be and are like npcs in a game -just as Mewt wished them to be- and he fights to bring them back as the bullied introvert rules as god emperor of the townsfolk and crushes any threat to his regime. While March famously states 'escaping reality and living in a fantasy is wrong!' because this is still the real people Mewt is controlling and stealing their lives in the most self centred of ways. The goal of the game is not 'get back home' because you are home. Its to change home back to normal.
If thats an Isekai then so is Silent Hill.
64376c No.15891778
>>15891275
>hates FFTA
>reddit spaces
>rages like a nigger solely because it uses 'tactics' in the title
Checks out.
Also, dumb nigger, why does it matter that 'tactics' is in the title? That's because of the gameplay, not because of the story, setting, or characters. Would you rage at FFIX for having a different tone, setting, story, etc than FFVIII? No? Then why do it here?
Because you're a dumb small-brain congoid monkey nigger, that's why.
8fe088 No.15891811
Judge system isnt even bad
3f80e2 No.15891812
>>15888572
It is. It's literally all the worst parts of Classicvania with the worst parts of Metroidvania together, namely unresponsive control to make the game seems hard plus literal empty hallways and dead ends with nothing on it plus stupid RNG to make work the only justified mechanic in the whole game. You know what, CotM is my pick. It's only liked by contrarians.
>>15890188
Mostly because no one really tried again. SOTN introduced a lot of stuff that overall improved CV2, particularly a fucking map, and even then it wasn't that much of an improvement until later games.
4515fc No.15892139
First not that good, second not that bad.
969010 No.15895665
Soul Calibur … Samurai Showdown was a better execution of a weapon based 1vs1 fighting game
394b7f No.15896244
>>15891165
>>15891179
>which NEVER EVER EVER HAPPENS IF YOU AREN'T TOTAL FUCKING SHIT AT VIDEOGAMES
Ever consider that people ignore their sanity meter precisely because they want to see all the entertaining spoopy shit it causes?
7ddde9 No.15897927
>>15891143
>>15891275
>FFTA story
>bad
t. Mewt niggers
>>15891812
>CotM is my pick. It's only liked by contrarians.
>being this right
>>15892139
Not even trying. Even as someone who kind of liked IW, it's still a massive downgrade from the original.
13c695 No.15897958
>>15891812
CotM is still better than Harmony of Dissonance
7ddde9 No.15897964
>>15897958
Dissonance can be improved by simply making the enemies tougher. CotM is just badly designed.
79f8a2 No.15897971
>>15891165
>What the fuck kind of game hides all of the cool shit behind a fail state?
Porn games.
13c695 No.15897974
>>15887961
if you'd reached the corrupt judge missions, you'd have seen the absolute bullshit they came up with for it. Laws like no changing elevation
d5538d No.15898051
>>15897974
and summoners totally wrecked that shit.
64376c No.15898058
>>15897974
FFTA2 didn't punish you as harshly for breaking the law as FFTA, and only had one law a day, but sometimes the laws were downright retarded.
>No Missing - Not Allowed to Miss With Attacks
>No Knockback - Not Allowed to Knockback Enemies
and more bullshit.
882a97 No.15898063
>>15898058
Remember the great trials where it was no missing and no back attacks and if you broke a law you lost? Those were great and fun
64376c No.15898077
>>15898063
I played it on emulator, so I just savescummed w/ savestates to get past that fucking trial. Not all the trials were bad, but a couple of them were dumb as hell.
>No Humes - Humes May Only Use Basic Actions
Fuck outta here with that shit, 4/6 of my main party was Hume.
9b349e No.15899148
people give up on dwarf fortress way too soon.
1726c4 No.15899164
>>15899148
dis tbh monica smmfh monica
36e980 No.15899190
>>15891275
lol,no everyone liked the plot. Marche is one of the top FF main characters.