9081c9 No.15869702
>reinstal os
>vidyagaem loses savefile
why the fuck would someone store the savefile somewhere other than the game's directory
764875 No.15869718
>>15869702
>why the fuck would someone store the savefile somewhere other than the game's directory
Because the install directory can change? Like for example you delete your game then later reinstall it somewhere else. This is why save data tends to be stored in an independent location like in a "games" folder in your C drive or in appdata, and why games generally ask if you also want to remove save data during uninstallation.
fb922e No.15869733
Because if you end up uninstalling and then reinstalling the game, your save file won't be lost if it's not located within the game's directory.
fb06ed No.15869747
>save data is stored in the registry
1277d6 No.15869750
>caring this much about your save file
I remember when I was 12 too. Just replay the game.
4ae10c No.15869756
>>15869750
Not OP but fuck you man, losing a save file with a lot of effort, time and memories put in is fucking rage-inducing
764875 No.15869759
>>15869747
>save data is stored on dev's server
>It's a single player game
53bde7 No.15869766
>save is stored in game directory
>uninstall game via steam
>reinstall it later
>saves are gone
f5d0f3 No.15869770
>>15869733
I remember when you uninstalled a game it told you that certain things were left behind in the folder, like your sava data.
a9825a No.15869779
>>15869766
Steam uninstall is normally "delete the entire folder" but it won't touch stuff saved outside of the Steam directory such as in documents.
fb922e No.15869784
>>15869770
Well now even some uninstallers are lazy and pretty much just delete the entire directory instead of the game's files. So if you're a lazy pirate and don't bother to put your iso and the installed games in seperate folders, and you would like to uninstall the game but have the iso around for reinstallation that iso's fucked too. I don't know if legit games do that but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.
030f05 No.15869787
>goodies and bonuses when game detects previous games' save files
54e085 No.15869791
>antivirus blocks the official legally bought game
>antivirus does not block all the pirated shit I have
4ae10c No.15869794
8f3eb5 No.15869795
>>15869702
>multiple users want to play videogame on local machine
>the daughter decides to play videogame and overwrites the brother's savefile
>by nature all save files are usually stored in the users directory
you just can't into opreating systems made for multiple users
e8cea3 No.15869801
>>15869791
I've never seen this happen. Not saying you're lying, just curious what game(s) did this to you.
5be90d No.15869803
>>15869791
stop paying for games then faggotron
6bb509 No.15869805
>being this uneducated about computers
>being this uneducated about how videogames work
Sure is /v/ alright
54e085 No.15869808
>>15869801
Battle Brothers
The game has known incompatibility with Avast. It's a really recent game too.
030f05 No.15869811
>>15869794
That's one of the few non-NTR pieces from that artist anon. It's safe.
6bb509 No.15869817
>>15869756
>he is too stupid to just copy his supposedly precious save file to a flash drive or a partition on his hard drive
>>15869811
Weebs confirmed eternal cucks
e8cea3 No.15869822
>>15869808
Never heard of it but after looking it up, seems kinda fun. Would you recommend playing it?
41c6cc No.15869825
>>15869750
Haha fucking old faggot.
54e085 No.15869833
>>15869822
Yes. But arm yourself with patience. The difficulty is kind of high.
4ae10c No.15869834
>>15869817
nigger I was more referring to shit like handhelds/consoles and whatnot; things with save files that don't transfer or back up easily
PC I rarely have troubles with save files that I consider important
ea2c57 No.15869837
>>15869759
>game has cloud saves
>bugged and silently disabled instead of fixing it, only mentioned on their forums
>local save is in fucking PROGRAM FILES of all places
and that's how I lost a 86% black flag save. fuck you ubisoft.
c86d58 No.15869839
Not unsurprising if your game stored the save in your /dir/user/documents/ or /user/appdata/local/ directories
6bb509 No.15869844
>>15869834
>playing on handhelds and consoles
>implying play station has difficult savefiles to access
>implying xbox has difficult savefiles to access
>implying any competently made handheld (not nintendo made) has hard to access savefiles
>implying getting savefiles off of anything is hard if you even put in 5 seconds of googling to find a tool that someone smarter than you made several years ago
e8cea3 No.15869845
>>15869833
Neato I like difficult, added to the list. Thanks for the tip Anon
13f9f9 No.15869853
I just wish saves have a universal location. Sick of having to search through mydocuments, appdata, saved games, my games or wherever the fuck else they are.
551164 No.15869857
1277d6 No.15869864
>>15869756
If the game was good, then replaying it from the start is a good thing because you get to extend your enjoyment of the game before it ends. If it was bad, then why are you wasting time, effort, and memory neurons on it?
76e7cc No.15869879
>>15869817
>>15869818
there is literally nothing wrong with NTR.
(but only so long as it's reverse NTR where another girl forces or blackmails someone's bf/husband into cheating)
551164 No.15869884
>>15869787
>Ratchet & Clank 1 has Ratchet get a job with the company that sells weapons, but, seemingly as a joke, he is told that his employee discount doesn't kick in for two years.
>Two years later, Ratchet & Clank 3 comes out, and if you have a save file from Ratchet & Clank 1 past the point where you get the job, you actually do get the employee discount
It's always fun when games have save file bonuses, and there are some that have it related to story stuff, but it was cool that it was from something that was seemingly a joke, so you wouldn't be expecting it.
a48b08 No.15869890
>>15869853
>I just wish saves have a universal location
I've always thought computers could use this and am baffled how they didn't and still don't. We have a pictures, music and documents folders by default, but no savedata folder? Doesn't even have to be for games, it could be for program settings too, so you could transfer it after an OS install and have all your firefox or photoshop settings or some shit.
0858ef No.15869897
>>15869702
> Mutating a system directory
Widows users are subhumans.
ea2c57 No.15869898
>>15869853
usually they're either in the game folder (and possible cloud saved) or user (which hold everything including documents and appdata).
only retard companies use another folder for saves/uploads
ea2c57 No.15869900
>>15869890
>what is the appdata folder
708c5e No.15869904
> putting savedata in the games directory
What the fuck? Are you retarded? The standard is to put such user data in the aptly named AppData folder in the user's account directory. Allowing a game to access anywhere outside AppData is a horrible idea for numerous security reasons and the overwhelming majority of modern game engines are explicitly sandboxed so they cannot go anywhere outside there.
827e4c No.15869910
>>15869879
That's called cuckqueaning, faggot. Completely different from NTR.
NTR IS SHIT
a48b08 No.15869935
>>15869900
You mean the hidden mess of folders that most games and programs don't actually use, and when they do use, they still have important settings in their main directory or mydocuments, effectively splitting all the shit you need to back up into as many as three different folders?
MUST HAVE SLIPPED MY MIND
1277d6 No.15869936
>>15869890
/tech/ie here, the general idea is that with PCs, there are no hard and fast rules about what you do with file storage, but there are conventions that are basically optional, but are a good idea to follow. Game saves are trickier because they could have a wide range of use cases:
>saves need to track game-wide stats like kills by all user profiles? Store in ProgramData.
>saves are per-user only? Store in User\AppData.
>pajeet programmers? Toss it in the Documents folder.
>assembly-coding emulator wiz did it? Fuck it, save in the same location as the program because it's assembly magic and I don't need to explain shit
PC truly is the embodiment of freedom. PC is white. If you want everything locked down, go with Apple.
708c5e No.15869943
>>15869910
> there is nothing wrong with cheating on your spouse and making her feel worthless and used and even better it gets you off to treat someone you care about like garbage
ooga booga thas rite fam 😂😂😂😂🍆💦
Kill yourself you degenerate nigger
a48b08 No.15869961
>>15869936
>Having a default "pictures" folder that most programs save screenshots to is fine
>Having a default "savedata" folder isn't
What the fuck kind of retardation is this?
708c5e No.15869981
>>15869961
Trying to get programmers to agree on one standard for save locations when they can't even agree on how to use curly braces in their code or which way Z points in 3D space is asking for a lot in comparison.
a987d3 No.15869987
>>15869936
>defending Windows poorly defined conventions
>calling defined conventions used in Linux and BSD being locked down
>I'm from /tech/!
Of course you are.
76e7cc No.15869989
>>15869910
there's not a specific tag for that though, at best it just gets put into NTR because that's all the japs know. NTR technically covers both cases but usually it's the bad way (guy getting cheated on).
1277d6 No.15869990
>>15869961
I mean, there are arguments going both ways. You raise a very valid point, but then what about organizing saves so that your savedata folder isn't just a cesspool of forgotten files?
0bc513 No.15869997
>>15869936
>>pajeet programmers? Toss it in the Documents folder.
>when you can't put actual documents in the documents folder because games have filled it up with bullshit
748ec9 No.15870014
>>15869702
>he reinstalls his operating system without backing up all his shit to an external HD
A fool and his data are soon parted.
7911da No.15870029
>>15869733
If you are too stupid to back up saves you want to keep before deleting a game you do should not be using computer. You cannot make things that idiot-proof, it only makes a mess while not helping the idiots because they will always fuck it up. You might as well bitch that we need holes in our cheeks because what if the person doesn't want to breath with his mouth open?
>>15869961
It can make sense for files accessed by many programs to be saved to a central location. It makes no sense for files that will only be accessed by the one that created them, it only creates a mess.
a4a80f No.15870041
>>15869702
>why the fuck would someone store the savefile somewhere other than the game's directory
The games install directory is global, in other words multiple users can access said directory. To better manage save data between users it makes more sense to use the users personal Documents folders to store saves instead.
726d68 No.15870109
>>15869987
look past POSIX attributes and dotfiles, macOS and Linux or BSD have little alike when it comes to naming and saving conventions. at this point ~/Library is just an Apple way to say %AppData%
5b6a7c No.15870128
>game gets installed on desktop
54d323 No.15870144
>>15869987
>calling defined conventions used in Linux and BSD being locked down
Confirmed for never having used Linux
You are lucky when you don't have to symlink ~/.config/fag to ~/.fag half the time you install something new and don't forget WINE being retarded and linking to the users actual directories from within the wineprefix as default.
a87b9a No.15870159
>Game has cloud saving
>Accidentally creates a problem where you can make some endings borderline impossible because of how saving works in the game
Alternatively
>Game has save file
>Game has second save file to prevent save editing
>Lose save game because second file exists somewhere fucking ridculous like My Music
6aee0e No.15870180
>thread about save files
>derailed by ntr discussion
classic /v/
ea2c57 No.15870311
>>15869935
>hidden mess of folders that most games and programs don't actually use
the fuck you on about? documents is right in your user folder, so is appdata, and literally every fucking program uses appdata unless it's a portable version or you specifically tell them not to.
>effectively splitting all the shit you need to back up into as many as three different folders?
>backing up a single user folder is hard
if you wanna bitch about something bitch about companies that don't follow windows conventions or simply rely on cloud saves.
the shit's right there to use for a reason (that this shit has to be on C: or even windows updates break is another topic).
708c5e No.15870392
>>15870128
> entire program is installed to appdata
652c2e No.15870520
>pirate X game and play it for a long time
>decide to buy it
>all saves from the pirated game are read by the legit copy