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Panzer Dragoon/Rail Shooter thread? Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 18:59:25 464c5d No.15851927

Guess which game is getting a remake (or two)?:

http://segabits.com/blog/2018/12/10/panzer-dragoon-remake-and-panzer-dragoon-ii-zwei-remake-announced/

https://games.forever-entertainment.com/

https://twitter.com/foreverentert?lang=en

Sega's apparently commissioning Poles for this job after Orta received backwards compatibility on Xbox One. It doesn't look like they've done anything too noteworthy outside of mobile games. Given the current state of the industry, I hope neither fuck up the artstyle and gameplay/physics like the new Crash, Spyro, or even Sega's own non Advance/Mania Sonic games. There's reports that they also helped make "Fear Effect: Sedna". Still, it's nice to see Panzer Dragoon return in some form, especially since the series is notorious for being pricy on a system that isn't very emulation friendly (though Zwei ran fine for me on SSF) The creator that went on to make the "Crimson Dragon"Xbone exclusive also wants to make a "Panzer Dragoon Saga II" so if these are successful, maybe that could actually happen down the line if the demand's there:

http://archive.is/dGUGa

It's a travesty what happened to Sega after the 32X and several of their development teams in-house following their 3rd party transition. Are you filled with relief that it's returning alongside Streets Of Rage 4, Sakura Taisen, Shenmue III, and the Wonder Boy remake or continued dread about how cucking out is inevitable in some way or that the rail shooter genre is better off dead after the likes of Star Fox Zero and Sega making that horrid Sonic movie?

Any talk about the games themselves and others like it is welcome.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:05:47 a1de6a No.15851957

They really should've ported these to the Wii. It was the perfect match.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:15:02 852919 No.15852001

File: b92b611d2c1f101⋯.jpg (60.33 KB, 800x600, 4:3, panzer_dragoon_orta_fanart.jpg)

Lol did everyone forget Crimson Dragon? Microsoft will fuck it up.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:18:13 9e146a No.15852020

This is simultaneously an intriguing and depressing thread

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:18:45 464c5d No.15852025

>>15851957

Reminds me that I've been meaning to play that Sin & Punishment sequel but I don't have a Wii or *PC powerful enough to emulate it** Not sure if I should wait to upgrade mine's or pick up a Wii-U to mod it since the latter hasn't had Wonderful 101 ported yet either. Also I'm reading that the Panzer Dragoon PC port has a silky smooth 20FPS cap which was included in Orta:

https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Panzer_Dragoon

>>15852001

It better not be Microsoft exclusive then. Also I remembered that Denuvo's a thing, fuck. Better get cracked faster than Yakuza if it happens, then.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:18:50 03cb17 No.15852026

File: 0e76cf31276c7a5⋯.jpeg (391.67 KB, 1200x1081, 1200:1081, 6DEF21B8-7A08-4FD4-BA22-6….jpeg)

>no saga remake

Why Sega?

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:23:05 9e146a No.15852054

File: d17542ddf9f6c3a⋯.png (268.82 KB, 526x885, 526:885, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15852026

The world doesn't deserve it

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:25:33 703e70 No.15852076

Samba de Amigo Remake for the Switch when?

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:28:15 f9543d No.15852096

File: 73a191347f10be4⋯.gif (1.9 MB, 500x278, 250:139, its on.gif)

>>15851927

Would be nice if we got new games, but no we just get old games remade. The industry is fucking dead and shitty millenials just keep buying games that were released 15 years ago that they probably already own for 89 dollars. Fuck this gay earth and fuck any of you that buy remakes.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:28:49 502560 No.15852100

>>15851927

are rail shooters better played with a controller or with a mouse? if it's the latter how good are the pc ports for house of the dead and panzer dragoon?

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:38:11 464c5d No.15852148

>>15852100

For games like House of the Dead? Light Gun. III HD was serviceable on my PS3 with a controller but it's not very arcade-y otherwise. Other anon had it right when he said that the games should have been ported over to the Wii. Orta was a blast even with the Xbox controller but I haven't gotten around to playing the original admittedly. I could only use a keyboard to play Zwei on SSF-still entertaining but it would be even better if I could rebind it to either the mouse or my controller.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:47:46 502560 No.15852183

>>15852148

well shit I dont have a light gun and I dont think you can plug those to a pc, even then what's wrong with mouse aiming?

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:48:35 af751e No.15852184

>>15852054

I wish this was real

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:54:48 eca243 No.15852208

>>15852026

Requesting the article detailing the development process of Saga.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:57:31 4378a0 No.15852213

>>15851927

They will fuck it up, i don't know how but they will.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 19:59:22 b877d6 No.15852221

>>15852054

But Sonic… I had a Dreamcast. I had two, actually, because I raped my GD-ROM laser playing so much Phantasy Star Online and, also, falling asleep in the lobby so it was constantly loading as players popped in and out of games.

Seriously, the Dreamcast was kind of a loud console anyhow but holy shit the noses that v.2 caused the Dreamcast to make sent a shiver down my spine.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 20:00:52 f7cc4a No.15852226

>>15852208

Ah yeah, I also forgot about the deaths involved. People's lives went into making this game.

That shit was fucking tragic. It would be an insult to their work to remake it in my eyes

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 20:01:11 464c5d No.15852227

>>15852183

It's not so much wrong, as it is light guns are how they're meant to be played. Not any worse than controllers if you want to play something like HotD on PC.

>>15852208

http://shmuplations.com/panzerdragoonsaga/

I'll try to find the other one if I have time to spare.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 20:06:38 ffc78d No.15852251

File: ab967b95b7d7bf3⋯.jpg (271.04 KB, 1625x1245, 325:249, 13ef.jpg)

>several modifications of the game, making it more attractive to modern players

>>15852026

Because why include the one people want the most when you can tell people they better buy the first two if the want the 3rd game then make them pay for the 3rd game separately.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 20:12:11 803be2 No.15852274

>>15852148

> For games like House of the Dead? Light Gun. III HD was serviceable on my PS3 with a controller

> Controller

That and Time Crisis are what made the Playstation Move worthwhile.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 20:13:39 f61121 No.15852284

>>15852251

Well yeah the third game is a 20 hour rpg with full voice acting for every line of dialog and like 2 hours of cutscenes and a really complicated battle system. The other 3 games are much simpler. Investing that much in a project when people aren't readily familiar with the series and is a several times bigger investment than 30 minute long rail shooters. Did you use your brain for this comment or did you just shit on the keyboard

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 20:29:09 464c5d No.15852340

>>15852274

Indeed.

>>15852208

>>15852226

http://archive.is/ZwELP

Found this. I agree on some level, but if Futatsugi is up for it, I won't begrudge him if it would turn out well or goes for a sequel instead. I'd rather wait and see how Yu Suzuki handles Shenmue III to see if such a thing can be pulled off without a hitch.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 21:45:58 85d7fd No.15852617

File: 14fd47029eedf88⋯.png (356.2 KB, 650x377, 50:29, ClipboardImage.png)

Any other gorgeous games featuring dragons that the modern game industry wants to make ugly as fuck?

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 21:59:10 c96693 No.15852685

File: 1fc89d85830e3e2⋯.jpg (104.14 KB, 474x648, 79:108, Download (1).jpg)

>>15851927

Panzer Dragoon is an overrated, overpriced piece of shit. Give me pic related instead.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 22:07:51 72b1e0 No.15852732

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>>15852054

>>15852026

I don't know. Why did it take Sega until the PS3 to rerelease Phantasy Star IV? Every compilation collection before Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection avoided it despite being a fan favorite.

>>15852251

Going to be both funny and sad if, should nuPanzer Dragoon do well, they still skip over Saga in favor of an Orta rerelease/remake.

>>15852096

I hate to say it, but at the very least it's not being dumped onto mobile, the way so many companies are apt to when they smell there's still shekels to be had from dead series, but don't have enough faith in the prior audience over a new one that might be potentially bigger. But yes, the trend towards remakes of games that may not need them, reboots, and remasturbation is pretty annoying. Doesn't help matter either that most actually new games these days wind up mediocre/bad on their own account, or are ruined by publisher/system owner policies.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 22:10:09 85d7fd No.15852742

>>15852685

Sorry it didn't have any monster girls for you to fap to, fuck-o

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 22:25:54 c52072 No.15852800

>>15852685

This looks fun, what is it?

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 22:33:19 ef1a23 No.15852841

>>15852026

They lost the source code for it for one

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 22:44:17 afcc9d No.15852879

>>15852685

Why would you want a remake of Alisia Dragoon? The game was already fine, and the (((modern industry))) isn't capable of decent remakes 99.9% of the time

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 22:49:25 84735e No.15852901

>>15852841

It still shouldn't be that hard to remake it from the ground up for a modern developer as big as Sega. Panzer Dragoon Saga is a pretty small RPG, even compared other ones made around the same time.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 23:51:19 56a5a2 No.15853171

>>15852901

>Panzer Dragoon Saga is a pretty small RPG, even compared other ones made around the same time.

Are we thinking of the same game? It was a 4 disc behemoth that would have cost a fortune to develop.

Remaking it from the ground up would be expensive as fuck and Sega are cheap bastards. It's never going to happen. Especially for an obscure title like PDS.

Anonymous 12/10/18 (Mon) 23:54:50 72b1e0 No.15853188

>>15853171

>It was a 4 disc behemoth that would have cost a fortune to develop.

Disc size doesn't necessarily equate length, just data storage consumed. Granted, I haven't played PDS yet, but looking at something like Koudelka, that game's four discs and ranges 10-18 hours or so. FMVs and non-repeated voicing can eat a lot of room. Also having to have repeated data between discs as well, unless going with constant points of no return.