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>Will this finally redeem World and make it worth buying?

unless they're doing a complete overhaul of the mechanics and making it less westernized; No.

>>15851552

That, and I want Zinogre & Tigrex

Why hold off on it? It's paid DLC isn't it

>>15851562

I think it is. Is this slightly less Jewish than releasing a “new copy” of the game or on par?

>>15851575

It is cracked, and officially shit in pretty much every aspect imaginable.

Also, if you think the idea of G-rank in world is going to matter dick, then you are unaware of the fact you get marked as HR2 after hunting not-great jaggi and high rank takes 20 hours to reach for normalfag players.

>>15851541

>Buy this turd because I want to play with friends

>Get the same error everytime I boot it up and can't even get past the open cutscene

Back to 4U I go.

>>15851651

Mom? fucking faggot

>>15851651

Mark has no mom.

>>15851632

Well, he ‘‘is’’ a monster hunter

>>15851733

>another game

>only other cross-over appearance was SC6 which was very recent, MHW's isn't until next year

Nobody liked Lightning, though. Don't try to force your meme.

>>15851747

>force your meme.

I'm not the one putting Geralt of Rivia in multiple games as a cross over character.

AW YEAH MORE RATHIAN RESKINS

>>15851753

You still haven't said why this is a bad thing. The Witcher series are very good single-player games.

>>15851754

>nargacuga

That'd be pretty great, the armor is hot.

>>15851768

you say that as if they haven't done this in every game. 4u and XX had huge rosters but they mostly reused assets just as they did in World.

>>15851613

I just popped into this thread because this is my favorite series and all and I have to say that I agree with some of this as much as I really like World. It absolutely feels like a different game from previous Monster Hunters and a lot of the tension is gone now that I've gotten past the initial story. The only reason there was tension in the first place was the fact that it was a new game and I was still getting used to the mechanics.

Saw the witcher collab this morning was like fuck crapcom make a dlc pack for it already.

See this ppst holy fuck yes

>>15851541

>Will this finally redeem World and make it worth buying?

Of course not, you retarded gorilla nigger

>>15851786

I'll post what I want, you contrarian retard.

>>15851802

Is the winter event already in? It has been a while since I played Monster Hunter World, just after the golden horned alligator event, so I don't know what to expect for a greatsword user.

>>15851808

Fuck, forgot not to quote.

>>15851808

Winter event is in and with it brings back the Golden Binch and Blue Teostra. Though Luna came a bit before the event. The event itself is more just a re-release of all event quests that have been out previously so if you missed any of those you can pick them up now. Other than that there isn't really much out of the ordinary that you missed.

>>15851820

Oh I see. I might get into Monster Hunter World again.

What is the best Greatsword and how can you obtain it?

>>15851829

wyrm ignition one, the rocket GS. Only available from an event. The festivel which unlocks all events is on now so you can get it. Just search it up online.

>>15851835

Oh fun.

Every weapon felt Unga Bunga tier one way or the other. Monsters were much more erradic so you just built ways to super armor through it while looping your most damaging rotation and called it good. Like hit and run GS get fucked and triple charge nigga. Like any sort of shelling on GL, fucking backhand that bitch and don't shoot nigga.

Lance and HH changes were really nice though. This is probably the most fun I've had with lance and HH would be great if there was some actual fucking horn variety.

>>15851844

It's a super easy event LR quest called "Every Hunter's dream" or something like that. You just have to decimate a Paolumu and Rathalos in the Arena.

>>15851852

yeah imagine a new player doing it and wondering what awaits him for weapon progression in HR. FUCKING NOTHING BRUH. Then again I used the Great Jagras one for the longest time.

>>15851881

It's the damn sexiest weapon in the game though. Makes me want that gun hammer.

>if it's not like my psp games, it's bad

I'm getting tired of retards shitting on everything that's polished and streamlined, just because it triggers their buyers remorse.

You played unwieldy, buggy games which no one cared about. And when someones polishes the turds, you resent those who no longer have to eat shit.

>>15851922

the AI on PSP titles was very simple and moved in set 45 degree angles that were incredibly to predict. Almost all of their attacks were also very easy to see and predict. The only difficulty was knowing which moves had invisible hitboxes coz they fucked it up.

>>15851541

Will this expansion make MH generals less autistic?

>>15851956

the autism arrives

>>15851951

Only the infinite power of Christ can do that.

>>15851956

Its too late for you friend, your 3DS no longer has any power here.

But are they getting rid of the tempered system in favor of something more creative than numbers?

>>15851826

>>15851956

>>15851970

like clockwork the nintoddler arrives to spray is soylent everywhere.

>>15852115

it's so they don't miss out on any of the stuff from consoles. They're getting em at a faster rate than consoles too so they will catchup and reach parity at some point.

>>15852159

Did you ever run out of whetstones before?

Whoops

>>15852417 was meant for >>15851793

>>15852519

>What that structure WOULD have worked is if the game was based around the free hunts in 4U: you are out in a field and can stay there for fucking ever. You can harvest and do whatever you want for as long as you want. When a big monster shows up, it has an invisible timer. When the timer is up, the monster will "leave" and you blew it and can't get anything more. Then you can just mill around until another monster shows up since the basis is now being on the field ALL the time

I mean, you can do that, there's just no reason to.

What would it take for you to reinstall MHW?

For me, it would be at least 5+ new monsters. But even then, they'd have to not be boring stage monsters like kulve and have interesting designs. The new monsters in world were mostly boring and not as interesting as the ones in X, except for a few stand outs like zombie dragon and meat dog.

Just adding old monsters doesn't interest me, cause I know they'll be less fun to fight in the world engine. Though it would be interesting if they brought back rare monsters like gigginox or yama tsukami.

>>15852602

They also said it would add a new rank. So yeah it's not explicitly G but it's as close as they've gotten as if yet.

>>15851570

less, they're not resetting your progression and asking for fullprice again.

I love MHGU on my Nintendo switch, and also enjoy emulating the older games on PC should I buy World when the DLC comes out? I know it's 'casualized' but the idea of open world sorta seems intriguing even if it's only to laugh at the limited roster of uninspired monsters in the nuGame. Granting the running-heals, infinite wet stones, and glow flys are shit, it still seems fun in a Dragon's Dogma way.

Also besides this one are there any other good overall analysis videos of Word on Jewtube? Most videos seem to be overwhelmingly positive and don't reflect the common heald attitude here on /v/.

>>15853062

It's not really open world.

World is a good game. Stay salty you bought a switch nintentoddlers.

>>15853062

Because the commonly held attitude on /v/ towards this cake is hot fucking trash. World is the best Monster Hunter. It just has shit monsters.

>>15853062

>open world

It's not open world. It's a series of interconnected areas like the old games except you actually have traverse between them instead of instant transitions. Navigating the environment is actually a thing you gotta do now.

The only valid complaints are low monster count and boring looking designs on a lot of gear, otherwise it's actually the least jank Monster Hunter to date. For the record, I do think that 4U and GU are better games still since they have what actually makes MonHun as dope as it is, content.

>>15853142

>instant

>>15853192

Fine. Loading screens. You know what I mean.

>>15853196

Man if they only add a handful of new monsters I am going to be pissed. At least add 20-30 new monsters. That is where the game should have been at launch. Not 31 with only 6-7 monsters worth farming.

Nargacuga is back though. That makes me very happy.

>>15853216

It is apparently being advertised as the same size as G rank and ultimate expansions. At least it was during the news video for it. So it could add a good few more. And if you're really lucky it could actually make some of the other monsters worth farming.

>>15853216

Blango is probaly back too and I saw some offical art with Elderfrost Gammoth. Personally I just want to see more veriety in the designs. Something exotic and non lizard/dragon would cool. More along the lines of Malfestio, Hermitaur and Arzuros.

>>15853142

>The only valid complaints are low monster count and boring looking designs on a lot of gear

And the fact that nearly every single design decision lessens the amount the player is punished for any mistake, making it the easiest Monster Hunter to date. You never need to learn the map, never need to learn monster spawns and movement behavior, never need to remember to prepare for a hunt. The game either does it for you or removes the need entirely. And the fact that, unless you're using the plunder blade, your Palico makes hunts even more of a cakewalk. Nevermind that the palico mechanic is almost the shallowest it has ever been. And lets not forget the lack of map variety, or the fact that the only temperature hazard is relegated to a few zones in a single map. Or how about the fact that special events, something that you always had access to, once released, in previous games, are now time-locked? MHW does a lot of fucking things wrong, and it appalls me how many fervent defenders there are here on /v/, of all places.

>>15853288

It's still not a bad game though. The metal is currently really shit though. Elder dragons dropping in less than 2 minutes feels shitty.

>>15853288

> it appalls me how many fervent defenders there are here on /v/

this statement has to be bait, because there is nobody on /v/ that I've seen outright defending World.

>>15853288

I'd have to partially disagree on not having to learn the map, at least for the forest map due to the vertical parts and paths to them. scoutflies need to die though

>>15853343

>this statement has to be bait, because there is nobody on /v/ that I've seen outright defending World.

Did you see the recent thread for the crack? Were you around when the game was revealed? Have you seen this thread? While I'm sure a good number are shills, there's also a large amount of faggots that are very willing to pass off any flaw as unimportant and any criticism as a nitpick.

>>15853386

yes and in ever single thread their is nothing but anons crying about how much they hate Monhun world.

I even saved a copypasta from a pastebin:

>Despite the lack of a number, World was developed with the intent of being "Monster Hunter 5" and was built specifically to target foreign audiences who found the series too challenging.

>Like all first releases of a generation, World only goes up to High Rank. Capcom has not confirmed or denied whether G Rank content will be made, or how it will be released if it is.

>World has the first instances of paid DLC in the franchise. All paid DLC thus far has been cosmetic, and Capcom claims all announced monster-related content will be free.

>There is no longer a Village/Gathering Hall distinction. All quests can be done multiplayer. By the same token, players can no longer take on "multiplayer" quests solo, since when in single player the difficulty is set lower, and only switched to the higher difficulty if other players are present. Like in previous titles, it's a purely single/multi distinction, so difficulty is the same regardless of number of players

>Online servers are now region-free, so JP players can play with foreign players and vice versa. Filters can be set by language.

>World is rather story-intensive even compared to 4, with a large amount of cutscenes both between and during hunts. Cutscenes are unskippable. Voice acting in actual languages appears for the first time in the franchise, though traditional "Monster Hunter" language can also be enabled.

>HP damage numbers that indicate how much damage attacks do appear for the first time. They can be turned off.

>Glowing green bugs highlight interactable objects on the screen and guide the player to the monster. The ability to track monsters starts weaker and increases the more experience they gain until they at all times display a monster's position. They cannot be turned off.

>An in-game wiki-like feature has been included that gives rough estimations of weak points and drop rates.

>World launched with 30 large monsters. For comparison the most recent non-G Rank Monster Hunter titles, 4 and X/Generations, had 51 and 69 respectively. Patches will be released to up the monster count, with the first set for sometime in the spring to add Deviljho.

>Armor is no longer distinguished between Blademaster and Gunner. Regardless of weapon any armor can be equipped, with melee weapons giving a defensive boost and ranged weapons giving an elemental resistance boost.

>Armor Skills no longer require a base threshhold of points to activate, even a single point in a Skill is enough to activate it, with the effect increasing at higher levels. There are no Minus Skills. Further, some Armor sets have "set bonuses" that activate when wearing multiple pieces of the same set.

>New tools that can be used an infinite number of times with a cooldown between uses. Effects range from providing periodic healing to status resistance, even up to stealth effects and damage negation.

>Due to the removal of loading screens between zones, maps are about 2-2.5x the size of previous titles.

>Each map now has multiple base camps, which can be freely teleported to at any time when not in combat.

>Base camps allow the player to restock on all items freely throughout the hunt, as well as change out gear wholesale, including any items on cooldown. Players can eat multiple times per hunt at base camps as well.

>Bowguns can now be fired and items used "on the move." For instance, Potions no longer require the player to stand still, and with a slight loss of speed the players can even run while drinking. As a caveat, healing from drink items is no longer instant, and occurs throughout the duration of the drinking part of the animation.

>Whetstones, Bug Nets, and Pickaxes are no longer consumable items, instead simply being infinite use.

>Combinations can be "preprogrammed" to run automatically as items are gathered.

>Areas now contain environmental traps that can restrain monsters or knock them into other areas. Some of these can affect the player as well.

>Regardless of other gear, all players now have a "Slinger" to fire off items that were previously thrown as projectiles, as well as to interact with the environment as a grappling hook for travel or to utilize environmental traps.

>Some monsters will ignore the players entirely until attacked, and monsters will at times ignore the players even mid-battle in favor of entering short interactive cutscenes where they battle other monsters, dealing large amounts of damage to them and possibly incapacitating them.

there*

>>15853504

>nigger using emojis thinks he can speak

>yes and in ever single thread their is nothing but anons crying about how much they hate Monhun world.

And an equal or larger number of anons claiming that that all the haters are completely wrong, that it isn't casualized at all, that the casualizations are actually better, and/or how the only people that hate it must be Nintendrones. It honestly reminds me of the DmC fiasco, with how much people are willingly to outright deny the game's flaws.

>I even saved a copypasta from a pastebin:

And what is that supposed to prove?

>>15853540

here is another anon's opinion:

https://pastebin.com/yGSVZVfx

I've been in every Mon Hun thread and this is the first one where I've even seen people attempt to defend it and the only valid defense I've seen is that its fun and they ejoy it dispite the flaws that are indifensable. It seems to me you are just trying to aguee against a fictional character because I honestly don't know who you are talking about when you say there are people defending the casualization.

>>15853594

And now I know you're outright lying. That crack thread is still up. Just look at this post here >>15846654. Or this one >>15825930. Or how about this one >>15825167. And that thread is fucking empty of them compared to the shills from before the game was first released.

I liked world because hunter arts and styles are stupid and muddy the game

>>15852417

>as if it fucked my wife

but it fucked one of my favourite game series, same thing in the end

I just want an option to remove those flies.

>wanted to make a thread about this on half chan because traffic

>its fucking frozen or something

wow!

Anyway, glad theyre finally adding G rank it took them a while. All I need now is the full monster list from 4U and ill be content.

>>15854578

>Styles and arts muddy the game

Despite the fact that took things from Styles and Arts and implemented them into the current movesets for weapons? For all of generations faults, at the very least you had the ability to play the game vanilla with it barely effecting kill times.

>>15854713

Judging by how world is handling difficulty, the AI is going to still be pants on head retarded, and monster kill times will now be even shorter

>>15854717

Hunter arts and styles being different kits limits the amount of choices you make whenever you attack a monster, while increasing the choices you make before a hunt. Baking them into one kit that is filled with situational tools is much better since it increases the overall complexity of each weapon, it's just capcom forgot how to discourage spamming your "best" move so that's all everyone does.

>>15851826

It's a monster hunter game but it's a piece of shit, don't what it has to do with nintendo

>>15852656

>he doesn't know

In japan and then now in the states, they have save data transfers to the updated game. No resetting of progress.

>>15853062

Don't. Monster hutner has always been a series where finding the monster and keeping tabs on it is important. Due to the glow bugs that are on screen 100% of the time and can't be turned off, you'll ignore everything in the environment because the bugs are yelling at you to go to the monster. You also have supreme perfected movement of the hunter and can cancel out of basically anything and even heal while moving, but the monsters are much stupider as the environment actively fights against them and they have nothing to put them at an advantage over you other than the occasionally shit programmed hitboxes. Compare and contrast: Here is Barroth in World.

Is the Behemoth supposed to be so cheap? making spells over and over or destroying all the meteors before sending the meteor eclipse. What is the jump good for?

>>15856703

>What is the jump good for?

dodging meteors. except the last one.

>>15856666

did it not enrange throughout the whole fight? I never saw steam coming out of its nose, also barroth has been kinda tuned down since 3u, it's never been quite as hard as tri since.

>>15856759

While Barroth hasn't quite been it's Tri self, it'll still stomp you if you get lax. But basically, in world, the difference between enraged and not enraged is almost nil.

>>15856752

Do you have to time it well or just jumping can save you?

>>15851557

Zinorge yes, Tigrex maybe

>>15856860

To corroborate with this anon, I’m sure everybody can fondly remember the endless fonts of “Je suis monte! Pardon…” that the 3ds games offered

>>15856838

Don't know, i only read about it, i never played world

>>15852884

>not downloading dolphin porn

Get a load of this faglord.

>>15856769

rage pretty much only matters on elder dragons and shit like anjanath or deviljho.

>>15858631

Why does the kirin set get so much love? The zinogre one is way cuter.

>>15858741

nobody makes that compaint at all lmao.

>>15858729

>two 45 degree turns faggot is still around

Does capcom pay well? I'm getting slightly bored of being a NEET.

>>15858776

>mon hun general

I thought we were all japanon posting on proxies, because obviously, it's a one man autism crusade against MHW.

>>15858776

>getting free extra attacks means the game takes more skill.

You mean like the free damage when two monsters get in a turf war? Or when two monsters just happen to be in the same zone, hitting each other more than they attempt hit you? Or when a monster knocks an environmental hazard on itself? Or when a monster you're mounting gets itself caught in an environmental trap by its own actions? Or when it decides to just fall asleep in the same area you are in, fully aware you're there?

>>15858924

To be honest monsters wouldn't go to sleep whenever you enter their nest either before or when try start trying to go to sleep, the fight would just continue on as usual.

In world the monsters dont give a shit if you're in their nest or not, they WILL sleep.

World isnt perfect or even great and that is one issues about world that always bothered the shit out of me, especially when they were going for the more interactiv/realistic ecosystems route.

>>15858954

depends on the monster, while the first weak monsters like great jagras just go about their routine unless you attack em, more aggressive ones like teostra, b.diablos etc will just sperg out as soon as they see you.

>>15858991

AT kirin will sleep if I'm standing right in his arena.

>>15858999

i've never seen that happen ever.

he jumps down the ridge near the NE campsite and you fight him there. He only runs away near death to the top.

>>15858999

>instead of fighting him I stalk him for an hour and watch him sleep

>durrr they just sleep when you are in their space

>>15858999

Tempered Bagel will do the same, he'll just plop right down to sleep when you're setting barrel bombs

Dealing with the Behemoth is fucking painful. It doesn't help it might have materials to make some armor pieces to help me make a good greatsword build.

>>15859821

>build

SMELLY DUMB DANKSEOULS SCUM

>probably leddit as well

Neck yourself, shitter.

>>15859846

>he thinks Dark Souls coined the term build

Now that's some genuine underageb&.

>>15852012

There's nothing stopping them from selling a new edition that has the DLC packed in.

>>15859857

Go ask your favorite twitchnigger for the new EPIC™ build for sucking dick.

Who let the autist out? Not giving you any (you)s.

>World

>Redeemable

The only good things about it is how it looks (as in graphical quality. Weapon and armor designs are boring as fuck) and item management. The rest is watering down the series to appeal to western crowds.

>>15860202

>Going for the "How can you hate it if you haven't played it" route.

You're angry because those screenshots are right.

>>15862423

>>15862423

You act like that's new. Hell world isn't even the first time we've had a megaman skin for the palico.

>>15862504

I think he's referencing the stickers added to SFV

>>15856640

He's trying to equate people who prefer MHXX to nintendrones because MHXX is a switch-exclusive. Its capcom's fucking fault for going "Here you go guys on main platforms, MHW. MHXX is going to be our nintendo-loyalty title and will only be on their shitty gimmick console."

>>15851776

No they aren't, they are massively overrated.

>>15851826

Wew lad that well poisoning.

So, besides focus, which are the best options regarding gems? I am at the second level of focus, fourth level of earplugs and third level against tremors. Just the gems I have.

>>15863729

Handicraft

>>15862550

MHXX isnt a switch exclusive you fucking buffoon.

I've played and beat it on my n3ds.

The switch exclusive is MHGU and that shit has been out for MONTHS.

Good job making yourself look like an idiot in front of everyone.

>>15863729

Attack, Crit eye, crit boost, exploit weakness

and here's the best gem of all

uninstall MHW because it's trash where all gems are RNG and move to a game where only your charm is RNG

>>15858733

because the Kirin set is far older and thus already cemented as the waifu set

Zinogre is also my favorite looking set for females

>>15851541

That's great. Is the game still casualized trash riddled with denuvo?

>>15870822

Of course it is, they didn't change the core mechanics or the horrible monster AI who will veg out, constantly attack eachother, or sleep above anything else even if you're hitting it sometimes.

>>15851570

It's more Jewish, since you need to buy the base game AND the DLC instead of just the one package with everything.

>>15871801

but consider this from the perspective of someone that already bought MHW. Now instead of buying the game twice they just buy DLC. I think the price will be the real determining factor to how jewish this is. If capcom somehow gets the idea $60 is an okay price for this expansion than it's exactly like buying the whole game again and buying the game twice for newcomers. A more reasonable $20-$30 still sucks dick for newcomers but better for previous owners.

I'm giving World an honest try now that it's cracked and, besides all the other proven flaws, I think the biggest problem this game has is that the early game is excruciatingly boring and the cool shit is all at the end and runs out right away.

All the new low rank monsters suck, the actual fun fights (Lunastra, Vaal, Kulve and Nerdgigante) are all at the end and once you beat them you have nothing else to do unless you like grinding arch-tempered until your ass turns blue. And even then these fun fights are still a long step down from the best content of previous entries.

The silver lining is that all these issues COULD be fixed with an expac.

But will they? NO

>>15874655

>Kulve or Nergigante

>Fun

>Butchered version of lunastra

>fun

Are you playing a different game than I am? Kulve has to be hands down the worst fight in the entire franchise

>>15875526

Kulve only sucks because you're forced to grind her harder than any other monster, and the first part is a massive slog. Once you get in the arena and start actually fighting I like it.

>>15875540

What are you talking about, I hit some fucking state of zen while fighting her I was so bored, Her attacks are so massively telegraphed the only real attack she has is making you fall asleep

>>15875545

I mean, she's not hard, but I like breaking her shit.

>>15874635

>but consider this from the perspective of someone that already bought MHW.

So, an idiot? Because if you hadn't learned from over a decade of them doing G rereleases, you're a complete moron.

>>15885022

What? I work full time and still got like ~40 winter star tickets on three characters. Even if you can't manage to play everyday you can just log in for the bonus and get one ticket guaranteed daily.

>>15875526

How was Lunastra butchered?

Wasnt she just a High rank only reskin of Teostra back in FU? Thats what someone from here told me.

Or did the broken hitboxes make her much more of a "challenge" to fight back then?

>>15885161

Don't bother discussing MHW with /mhg/ they have it in their minds that MHW is the worst game ever and absolutely nothing about it is redeemable, and are forever assblasted about MHW being the success it is proving that they are out-of-touch with the average gamer.

>>15885189

Hmmm.

You're right.

Can't even say it better myself.

>>15885189

Not to mention the biggest fucking hateboners I've ever seen people have for a videogame comes from the MHW hating anons in there.

>>15885022

Install the shop mod to get the time gated shit.

>>15885161

Butchered because she got a lot of her damage nerfed, I mean shit her main threat is that if you don't have area damage negation. That aside her moveset got slowed way down, but that's the same as teostra who suffers the same nonsense. That aside the AI for both of them are bad with when they decide to do random shit.

>>15885350

if the whole arch kulve thing didn't give it away, he's playing on console.

>>15885368

That's his own fault for being dumb enough to trust capcom to not fuck up the release after they announced DLC. His punishment is to buy 9 copies of skyrim

>>15860202

(you) are a fucking retard.

>>15858741

as if hiding behind loading screens to pot and buff back to max midfight isn't easier

>>15859027

>Tempered Bagel

Mark?

>>15885189

>proving that they are out-of-touch with the average gamer.

Considering that "the average gamer" nowadays is a normalfag through and through, I'm not sure why you think that being out of touch with them is a bad thing.

>>15885377

Enjoy waiting the extra 6 months for Iceborne PCuck while I’m enjoying it on console next autumn

>>15851541

>Released autumn of next year.

I sleep.

>>15890200

>enjoy

Now that's a strong word for forcing yourself to slog through an abortion of a game where nothing poses any danger to you

>>15890488

pathetic

>>15890979

yeah that'd be a word I'd use to describe MHW too

>>15876633

>in the style of the one you posted where they're humans with some hints at their monster form

i prefer something like >>15852102

Gigginox is best girl

>>15891691

If only

Between a major annoyance at Generations, and World just feeling empty and shallow I feel pretty burnt out on the series. I'm not sure if it's overreacting to change or what, but these last two games just felt boring. Did XX fix any of X's problems and bloat, or was it just more of the same shit with weapon arts allowing max cheese for minimal effort?

>>15852384

>keeping up on whetstones is a critical component of the player's skill

I wonder if you realize how dumb that sounds.

>>15892100

>coming prepared to hunts and maintaining sharpness sounds dumb

This is why World was made you for drooling dumbfuck.

>>15892100

You can also roll out of the sharpening animation, and since whetstones are infinite, you don't even run the risk of wasting too many and running out mid hunt, so yes, it very much is a casualization

>>15892137

*for you

>>15875584

Perhaps, but this time buying early won’t get you shafted.

>>15892195

You're actually shafted harder than before, since you still need to buy twice, just this time for content that won't go down in price because it's digital only and not subject to retailers trying to purge physical stock, and due to being digital only isn't included on the disc. The real difference is, now the people who weren't retarded enough to buy the non-G version are just as shafted as you are.

>World shills continue to ignore or severely downplay all criticism

They have been going at it for fucking ever now, this is some serious dedication. I wish I loved my job that much.

>>15892993

>getting paid for having shit taste

I blame the jews.

>>15893006

>>15892993

What World shills? I don't see a single anon defending Worlds shortcomings compared to the classic games. And I denfenatly don't see anyone more explicitly shilling the game.

>>15893023

You're completely full of shit and it is painfully obvious.

>>15892146

Except you can just run out of the area past a loading screen to sharpen in previous titles.

>>15851541

Wow, it might finally be as hard as high rank is in real monhun games.

>>15892940

Because 3U was the best game in the entire franchise, 4U was the last good game they made, and GU was the last game they made.

>>15893252

Why are all the good games stuck on nintendo shit? Who the fuck even owns a Wii U?

>>15893337

Those were all 3DS games though.

>>15893337

Cuz sony gay, lmao

>>15893252

Double cross/GU has its fair share of problems, but almost all of them can be avoided by just playing solo, it still lets you play mostly normally.

Don't like style cancer? Go guild. Don't like arts? Don't use them. Don't like deviants? Literally all that is locked behind deviants are deviant gear.

Whereas in world, you can't escape all of its pokemon let's go style changes. Monsters still have retarded ai, maps are fucked just so they can slap "open world" on every square inch of marketing, and armor will still just give you skills with no real thought because they thought westerners were too stupid to count to 10. And they were right, reddit ate this shit up.

>>15893711

Hi reddit

>>15893777

>MHW players are reddit

Free (you) ebin poster.

>>15893798

>"I happen to LIKE dumbed down casual games, thank you very much!"

>>15892865

>just as shafted as I am

According to who? I’ve never even bought a MH game

>>15893711

>It's here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it

That's why the retention rate is garbage and even the redditfags post more about MHG and older titles than they do World, hell, there are even doubts that this G-rank is going to be anything other than a slight difficulty bump to an already broken base. (G-rank lite)

>>You're just buttmad

a lil' I poured 200 hours into world, hoping for something to get better, but it never did.

>>15893777

Well Failtrips Monster Hunter is the one game with autism that reaches the heavens, they still haven't forgiven Yahtzee for his criticism.

>>15893777

Trips confirmed, MHWfags are redditors

>>15893777

Gotta love how butthurt trips of truth makes the (((MHW defenders)))

>>15894250

In the English language, the word "you" is often used to represent a non-specific general entity, rather than just the single person being addressed. For instance, when giving instructions to operate a machine, it is perfectly natural to say "You have to press this button" instead of "This button has to be pressed," despite the instruction not being exclusive to the person being addressed.

>>15892146

>wasting too many and running out mid hunt

Nigger you could scavenge them fucking everywhere, what the shit are you on about?

World has problems, whetstone is not one of them.

>>15894406

There are quite a few QoL improvements in world that people like to complain about as casualization, as if they can't separate the two. Generally speaking, if it doesn't directly affect combat, it's probably a good change. Things like faster gathering, faster terrain movement (wedge beetles) and teleporting to camps out of combat are all just ways to cut down on time wasting busywork. There are quite a few ways World was casualized, but there are almost just as many genuine improvements as well.

>>15895762

>>15894406

You can roll out of the sharpening animation, and do not need to commit to it.

Unlike with potions, since you have unlimited whetstones, you aren't wasting any by cancelling the animation early (although there's almost no reason to roll out of potions because you can run while drinking, but that's a separate issue), therefore, there is no downside to doing this.

Thus, it is a casualization. How hard is this to understand?

Don't give me that hurr you can just run to another zone to use consumables bullshit, that only works if you're going out of your way to stay near a zone transition when fighting, which limits how much room you have to move around and avoid attacks. Otherwise you need to waste time running away, and you can obviously do the same shit in world. Not to mention in world you can also activate the environmental traps scattered everywhere, grab the free health potions just floating/lying around the area, or abuse the retarded stealth mechanics to make the monster forget you existed when you're in trouble.

>>15895850

The environmental stuff is rare in the later maps, especially in Elder's Recess where you do the majority of your Elder Dragon farming. Ancient forest is chock full of it, but I think that area is intended as a beginner intro zone for the most part

Like the other guy said, on the very rare chance that you completely fucked up and need to cancel your whetstone, you probably would have had plenty to spare anyway. Barely matters in terms of combat, it's entirely an out of combat farming change. Also worth noting, Monsters will often chase you to other zones in World, even when they aren't enraged. You can't simply run away to recover

>>15895963

>You can't simply run away to recover

Don't need to with free health bugs everywhere and being able to use a potion while moving. There are QoL changes in MHW for sure but very few of them aren't casualizations.

>>15895978

People who use the "QoL" argument tend to try and justify bad changes made to franchises.

>>15895978

You are right about the potion moving, and to a lesser extent the potion bugs. I don't think there are ANY of those on Elder's Recess, and there are only a few (3 I think) "potion plants" all in one area, which are less effective. So you aren't wrong, but it's a much smaller issue than you make it out to be.

>>15895660

4U, XX and MHW are the same team. Tri was the last one to be made by the largely the original team members.

>>15895850

>Hiding behind a loading screen while you pot up and sharpen weapon is harder.

LMAO

>>15897136

Never gonna happen because capcom's release schedule is 3 monsters in 2 years of "patching". There's been more shitty crossover content than monsters.

So, do rainbow weapons from golden crocodile be as good or even better than Rocket Greatsword?

>>15899183

Probably won't know for sure for a few days or so till they're all found and tested. Doubt it though since the whole gimmick of the new ones are that they come with critical element and GS is king of raw.

Denuvo = no buy

>>15895963

>The environmental stuff is rare in the later maps, especially in Elder's Recess where you do the majority of your Elder Dragon farming

Except for the area with the giant droppable crystals and the regenerating healing plants

>Also worth noting, Monsters will often chase you to other zones in World

Other way around, they constantly run away from you to other zones, forcing you to chase them.

>>15896019

>4U, XX and MHW are the same team

4U and World were. XX was a separate team.

>>15897136

In the actual Monster Hunter games.

>>>/v/15899328

This anon is an angry /mhg/ poster who will never, ever give any ground concerning MHW. He left his /mhg/ safespace to the MHW thread just to continue his lost war. Do not engage his weakass bait.

>>15852159

>why are combos automatic?

>why on earth are they giving you infinite of one thing?

>>15899333

>>15899208

I just want a golden rocket greatsword…

Or are all golden reskins just vanilla weapons?

>MHW is not casualized if you play it without a pallico giving you heals

>"H-hey y-you c-can s-still g-go b-back a-and pl-play th-the o-originals :o)!!!"

>>15899366

You mean not coming from events and whatnot? Yea pretty sure. Especially not crossover events cause muh intellectual property must not be changed. But I mean there aren't really that many event weapons to begin with. I almost with there was an alternative to the Rocket GS in the new pool though cause going just straight raw is kind of boring. Like imagine putting out the numbers of the rocket GS but also not having to deco for elementless build and be able to use elementals or even statuses like sleep/para. OP as fuck but who cares.

>>15851541

>[.]

What the fuck are you doing

>>15899376

Well, is not like this game has PvP, but I see your point.

>>15899535

you can pirate it and play multiplayer with other pirates

>>15899544

how though?

>>15851552

It's the best monhun to date, mechanically. They just need to remove the swarm of whatever the fuck flies that are so bright you can't see what's in front of you, and also make that fucking hideous potato-faced guild bitch that follows you around look like she's not a saggy-skinned hag from Napoleon Dynamite. Seriously, worst girl I've ever seen in any form of vidya ever. So fucking ugly. They went through the trouble of giving her skin with poor elasticity like holy fuck.

>>15899535

there are mods to reduce or completely remove them.

>>15899607

Nigger you're on the internet right now.

Look it up.

>>15901119

Look the god awful investigation grind where you wander in a circle and pick up fur is the best mechanical way ever to milk playtime. I mean who cares that Highrank is only 6 quests and a majority of monsters are optional.

>>15899544

Do I have to use hamachi or something similar to get it to work or is there another method? Seems like you can create your own servers /sessions but it's tied to steam.

>>15899767

I found nothing except a single website in peenoise language that spoke of a "little trick" but made no mention of the trick.

>>15901359

Wait you don't actually farm tracks that way do you? What an incredible waste of time. You know you can just kill the monsters for investigations or join other groups right? There is almost a constant stream of threat 2 and 3 tempered investigations in the SOS list, just refresh.

>>15901948

Not playing solo you can't. Because game design is good

>>15901968

All you need is like 1 or 2 investigations with 4 replays each and you will have a net gain of investigations overall if you pick up tracks as you run to the monster and beat it senseless. Yet another piss poor complaint from the anti world fags.

>>15901983

Not for the shitty story locked ones retard

>>15901948

>Wait you don't actually farm tracks that way do you?

Not for investigations, but it's pretty much what you end up doing in High Rank to unlock new quests, since the actual hunting of monsters doesn't contribute to that.

>>15902009

The story locked what? The monsters? Yes you are meant to track the monster before you kill it. You pick up like 10-15 tracks to initially level up your scout flies and then after the initial level up killing the monsters does in fact level up your research unlike what >>15902014 seems to believe. But even if it doesn't it is only used for scout flies and research so it is by no means necessary. In fact I would have thought most of you would be against it all together since scout flies and having research info on the monsters in game instead of checking wikis is a huge casualization.

>>15902009 I assume you're talking about the 1 time you have to pick up pink rath tracks for the story? Okay yea it is a bad design in that one instance.

>>15902033

The pink tracks, all 3 elder dragon tracks, the nerg tracks.

In fact it's the entirety of high rank

>>15902041

You get the elder dragons in like 5 tracks max and they are usually contained to one area that the monster frequents so once you find it you are basically done.. Pink Rath was the only one that was absurdly too high.

>>15902045

Doesn't excuse it being way artificial time bloat that amounts to "go in a circle 3 times"

>>15902047

It can be done in under 2 mins once you find the spot.

>>15902052

Takes 3 minutes with the right gear setup, but that is what they thought was "good content" for all but two high rank quests

>>15902055

Right gear setup? What scout flies up or some other scavenging pieces? Why even bother? Just do an optional quest and get them naturally as you progress. Sounds like you just blasted your way through the story as fast as possible and thought "wow what a shitty game, this isn't 3U at all!".

>>15902060

>Just do an optional quest, and during which take a detour to a specific part of the map which may be a minute out of the way, pick up the four pieces of shit to fill up a quarter of the bar, kill the monster and repeat 4 times!

If there was any reason or enjoyment to be had fighting the early game monsters or they had… you know… varied them at all for high rank it'd be something, but instead it's the same monsters you had already fought with no variations on their AI moveset or anything. Oh and the bagel will come and help you out because the monster AI fights each other more than you

>>15902033

>The story locked what? The monsters? Yes you are meant to track the monster before you kill it. You pick up like 10-15 tracks to initially level up your scout flies and then after the initial level up killing the monsters does in fact level up your research unlike what >>15902014 (You) seems to believe

You need better reading comprehension then - I was expressly talking about unlocking the quests themselves. It's silly and unnecessary bloat that has no place in the game.

>having research info on the monsters in game instead of checking wikis is a huge casualization.

It's less the inclusion of information and more the motivation behind it. The goal wasn't to provide the information for the veteran players to remove the need to refer to outside wikis, since it lacks the actual numbers people refer to said wikis for; it wasn't to encourage new players to learn the mechanics and observe the monster since that would've been better served by giving the player a blank slate to draw on based on their observations of which hit zones produce the greater blood spurts (which don't even exist anyway in World.) The entire reason they are there is to remove the need to learn from the game, much like many of the other changes World introduced.

>>15902060

>Sounds like you just blasted your way through the story as fast as possible and thought "wow what a shitty game, this isn't 3U at all!".

Except people blast through the "story" in every generation, because the "story" is pointless fluff that has only gotten more and more obnoxious as time goes on when we just want to get to the game parts.

>>15902080

Not to mention the story in world is horrible and they keep spouting the term bioenergy like you're supposed to already be familiar with it. You think for having a metric assload of cutscenes they'd try a little harder to make a cohesive story, at one point one of the characters goes "it's been 40 years…" like he had some sort of history, but the zorah only got there when the player hunter did, and all they even accomplished was making it not go to the island's Core (what the fuck is an island's core) to release it's bioenergy (what the fuck is bioenergy) when it dies (where it was lead there by… the xeno jiva from across the world I guess)

>>15902080

>their observations of which hit zones produce the greater blood spurts (which don't even exist anyway in World.)

Yea it was replaced with orange numbers. You could probably still mod blood spurts if you wanted to be a loyalist. You still need to learn patterns. The only thing having research logs does for you is stops you from looking to outside sources or doing an ungodly amount of trial/error on kill times to see which weps/elements work best (which is still possible btw cause you can just ignore it)

>Except people blast through the "story" in every generation

Sounds like a personal preference thing. Optionals give you mantles, canteen ingredients etc. MANY people including myself like to do everything possible before progressing the story/main quest line in games.

>>15902109

I said the vocal language to Monster Hunter gibberish and turned the subtitles off, so I guess I dodged that bullet.

>>15902145

>Yea it was replaced with orange numbers.

Exactly, because the entire design philosophy behind World was to remove the need to learn or commit to things as much as possible. It's why Armor Skills got reworked to function without the need for synergy between various pieces, it's why guidebugs were introduced, it's why you can swap out gear or restock on items midquest, it's why you can run while healing or shooting or reloading, it's why you can cancel out of almost any action, etc. etc.

>You still need to learn patterns

Which would be good if the monsters had any patterns that were remotely threatening

>The only thing having research logs does for you is stops you from looking to outside sources

Except it doesn't, because it doesn't provide detailed enough information to replace said outside sources.

>Sounds like a personal preference thing. Optionals give you mantles, canteen ingredients etc. MANY people including myself like to do everything possible before progressing the story/main quest line in games.

Fair enough, misinterpretation on my part, thought you were referring to skipping through the ridiculous garbage of plot scenes, which is the justification for the worthless bloat of track-hunting that was the point of discussion earlier.

>>15902180

I would argue guide bugs were introduced primarily because maps are too goddamn large and cluttered. With the map design as much of a clusterfuck of same looking areas stacked on top of each other they are unfortunately necessary, especially since if you don't stun lock shit to death they will run halfway across said map.

>>15893711

If World was on the Switch they'd eat it up.

>>15902510

>Every monster becomes a cakewalk with 4 players

I think thats true for every MH game, especially with a decent team.

One of the last times I played 4u with /v/ we fought a G-rank Zinogre and we just downright memed on that poor peice of shit, we didn't even give it a chance to fight back. We finished that fight faster than I finished any fight in MHW with a squad and I can tell because I played BOTH of those games a lot.

Also

>paintball that works by leaving a trail when the monster is fleeing

How would it work on flying monsters who can fly over and around entire areas or maybe even digging monsters?

You didn't really put much thought into that didn't you?

>>15902609

>You didn't really put much thought into that didn't you?

I just remembered an anon suggested an idea like that and that was the general concept. Oirignally I was going to suggest bringing the minimap back and making the paintball work like it does in every other title. Either way works though, because >>15902635

>>15902424

That's true for the jungle tree map, less so for the rest. The jungle tree is just overall the worst map in the game, which makes it odd that it's the first one.

>>15902510

>Every monster becomes a cakewalk with 4 players

To be fair, as long as said players are competent, this is true of proper MonHun too, but it is definitely more obvious in World.

>>15902604

>I-it's just console wars, really!

I own a PS4 and I don't own a Switch. World is complete fucking garbage.

>>15892146

whetstones were everywhere and you only ever needed to use it once or twice behind the safety of a loading screen.

>>15902047

>complains about artificial time bloat

>says collecting whetstones is good

wew

>>15902659

Those are two different people.