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>>15821093

I've never done a summoning build because they look horrendous to play. Are they as terribly slow as they appear?

>>15821121

It depends on the summon, Skeleton mages and some Spectres clear the screen while you run around and buff them.

Theres a new build with phantasms thats really fast with phase run.

With skeletons theres stuff like Queens escape that makes them really fast.

Its obviously slower that the offscreen instakill bullshit from the clearspeed meta but its not bad.

>glanced at image and got excited for a second that it might be a Betrayal at Krondor thread or similar

>look closer and it's Path of Shitinstead

/v/ always finds news ways to disappoint.

You guys should really find the willpower to drop this game.

>>15821136

Find me another ARPG that's constantly updating and has good endgame and a league mechanic

>>15821156

>Delve is a master craft now

There goes the one thing that kept me playing for a week last league.

>>15821080

>good endgame

Grinding maps ad nauseum until you can kill bosses that don't give you any reward worth your while?

>>15821156

Literally the only interesting thing about PoE is making builds and even that is debatable considering how retarded they are balancing their own game. The entire content of the rest of the game can be done by a fucking bot, it's mindless, once you get your build going is one of the most casual games out there.

>Reminder not to give your money to tencent.

Oh, so giving them your time by playing their game is acceptable, then? Why you niggers play this chinese timesink garbage is a mystery. It may have been acceptable in 2013 but if you still think it's a worthwhile use of your time to mindlessly grind in path of tencent you should honestly kys.

>>15821156

The mapping end game is pretty poor though. You've gotta do a bunch of retarded shit like not getting map completions, getting permanent shaper effects by manipulating the rng spread, and both grinding up iiq gear and using it instead of something that would have a more interesting effect. All of this just to have an optimal drop rate so that you don't end up losing money by farming. Farming is also paced poorly with hours of nothing followed by one drop that is worth 10x what you've made in the entire day. If they keep shitting out things like bestiary then you may as well just drop the league mechanics altogether and go to standard. Not to mention the mods are also pretty overbearing if you use bad speak even outside of global.

>>15821093

>GGG refuses to fix Femurs of the saints lag

They fixed Femurs long ago, I ran it three or four leagues ago.

>>15821209

>not getting map completions

You actually complete as many maps as possible as that gives you a flat bonus to map tiers dropped which you need to sustain higher maps.

>getting permanent shaper effects by manipulating the rng spread

I've never heard of this, but how this would make mapping bad escapes me.

>and both grinding up iiq gear and using it instead of something that would have a more interesting effect.

Why is that being an option (one that nobody uses) a bad thing?

>>15821209

>grinding up iiq gear and using it instead of something that would have a more interesting effect

Literally nobody replaces functional gear with magic find gear. The only valuable magic find is on already good items. You cannot cut your clearing potential for magic find, because you're cutting the rate you find items to begin with. Replacing actual functional gear with magic find is such a newbie mistake that I'm given the impression that you don't know what you are talking about.

Reminder that Chris Wilson pays his family members to shill for his game while his Chinese masters pay him to shit out a psychologically manipulative gambling experience masquerading as a game.

>>15821223

Not with Vaal skeletons.

>>15821239

It's mainly an accessibility issue. Stat sticks are plentiful and rather cheap for how much they increase DPS, while something like RF requires a good deal of expensive gear to actually do the top shit.

Still, GGG should've just made all the x as extra y rolls be part of the same pool, like gem level rolls. Unless they give some massive buffs to melee, it's just going to ruin melee builds for this league.

Also, molten strike helmet enchant is getting nerfed.

>What build are you going to start the league with?

Some spell totem. Probably arc unless it gets nerfed hard.

>>15821245

>You actually complete as many maps as possible as that gives you a flat bonus to map tiers dropped which you need to sustain higher maps.

No, unless they drastically changed something within the past few months, you're doing it wrong. You start by deciding which map it is you want to farm. Then you do all the maps that won't increase your drop pool for that tier. So if you want to do a t7 map, then you farm all map completion up to and including t11 and all t14+ maps. t12 and t13 are left completely undone. So you then shape your t7 map into a t12 one, and all t12 maps are turned into the one you're farming because it is the only one in the loot pool. Also, t13 maps are rolled back into t12 because you don't have any in the pool. The next step is to either set your map up so that it is alternating between elder and shaper each run or make the shaper/elder spread in such a way that the influence on that map cannot be diminished It's hard to explain look it up if you really want to see it. The next step is to buy a bunch of sextants and roll bad modifiers on the maps that are around your map but not close enough to affect it. Once you have bad rolls on the secondary and tertiary maps those rolls are locked out of the sextant pool for the ones close enough to affect your map. The last step is to get a bunch of iiq gear and run the shit out of your map.

>I've never heard of this, but how this would make mapping bad escapes me.

Well, look at the end result. You did a bunch of unintuitive shit, but you're now running a t12 map with constant influence, a high probability to drop another map of itself, and cheap sextants yellow and white sextants because it is surrounded by low tier maps due to being shaped can be used and mostly give good modifiers. It's a pretty nice farm setup, but what did you lose by making it? Well, you can't run any of the maps on the half of the atlas you built this on. You'll use up your bad rolls on those sextants. You can't run any maps that are in t12-14 because you'd fuck your drop pool. You can't run maps with shaper/elder influence because you might fuck up your perma influence setup. So you're locked out of 3/4s of the atlas and a few endgame bosses even more of them than you'd think because your bad sextants probably overlap the guardian maps. You can't even get around this by making a new character unless you make a new account too because the atlas is an account wide thing.

The fact that you have to pay resources for each map you run also fucks you over if you want to play without using this stuff. First, you have to recognize that the price for maps is going to be altered by the fact that people can do this. So if you're buying the maps people like to do this stuff to usually these ones have an optimal route and good card drops and running them without doing the tricks to increase profits, you're probably going to end up losing money. If you're farming only the ones that drop for you, then you're making less money than you would if you sold them off. You'll run out of them pretty quickly anyways. Okay, you can just run non optimal maps and still make a profit sure, but look at where this leaves us. You've got two options for end game: Run a single map the entire league or play like a hobo not running the maps that have good layouts and chances for things like headhunter or exalted cards and having drastically reduced profits profit = gain - cost and your gain isn't even enough to meet costs half of the time. Farming with a quota to meet each run fucking blows, and that is the entire end game for PoE.

>>15821428

So you basically have no clue what you're talking about. Thanks for clarifying.

>>15821450

God, you're a special kind of nigger. I take back what I said. PoE's Chinese cock seems like it's a perfect fit for you.

>>15821428

They did change sextant blocking and shaper/elder influence, that was two leagues ago now.

Other than that, my plan is to go beat some Scion CoC with a flavour of Autobombers. they essentially use the same nodes anyway.

When I played PoE and did maps loot almost never dropped. In fact, out of all the maps I did, I never got one piece of usable gear. I rarely got currency too.

So I just spent 2$ and got amazing gear and enjoyed my power fantasy for a few weeks.

>>15821156

>skinner box hack and slash

>ARPG

Fuck off retard.

>>15821652

>Paid $2 for gear

Don't RMT charge like $5 for an exalted orb?

>>15821428

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>15821667

I don't remember the exact price I paid but it was definitely under 10$ to some (probably) Chinese company.

I'm probably fucking autistic but the game is most fun when you overpower everything but still have the chance of being one-shot if you're not careful.

I'm going to run a Tectonic Slam Berserker and if nu Tectonic Slam is shit I will just change to Smite or Consecrated Path.

>>15821676 (1)

>>15821450

>You have no idea what you are talking about.

>…you… have no clue what you're talking about.

You should change your writing style a bit more if you're going to bother hopping IPs. It might also help to expand on why I have no idea what I'm saying. You thought it was important enough that you needed to say it twice. You might as well explain it once.

> Doryani's Fist now adds (150-225) to (525-600) (down from (225-335) to (785-900)) Lightning Damage to Unarmed Attacks, and (90-135) to (315-360) (up from (60-90) to (210-240)) Lightning Damage to Spells while Unarmed. The Doryani's Touch skill granted by Doryani's Fist can now hit up to 50 Enemies per skill use, up from 20, has 20% more Area of Effect, now costs 8 Mana instead of 28, and can no longer be Evaded. It now has 50% less Attack Speed (down from 30%), 600% Added Damage Effectiveness (up from 350%) and now converts all Physical Damage to Lightning (up from 50%).

Jesus Fucking Christ I want this now.

>playing click and loot games

>>15821858

But they nerfed all of the most cancerous clearspeed builds and gutted MF even more Poet's Pen is probably a T1 rare, and RF and BV took took huge hits. Lots of T1 builds are less relevant now.

>>15821911

While it shifted a little towards boss killing, clearspeed is still the best currency generator in game with no risks involved. If you want few mirrirs in stash you have to run MF windripper builds. But only if you want too, its not like currency is relevant after you get your first thousand chaos orbs. At that point all excessive currency is irrelevant even if you play on hardcore. Unlocking atlas and getting base map pool cost more than most early league builds. Having too much currency is meaningless.

So I think that mid-top tier builds are more enjoyable. You can farm red elder(or guardians) with good returns with medium clearspeed just fine. Red elder is perfect for farming if you are poorfag who can even roll good maps. Because guardians are a little more expensive but they drop guaranteed fragments which cover half of map cost anyway.

Too bad hierophant totemancer was nerfed.

>RF and BV took took huge hits

RF is stronger as fuck. Vaal rf + buff to herald of flame. I remember there were some nerfs but in the end they were unsubstantial. Like how life regen on tree was nerfed but elder belts with +20% more regen were introduced. The only current nerf is speed of shield charge, but we will see how bad it is. If anything RFSR was buffed a lot.

>Reminder not to give your money to tencent.

Or your time, or your attention.

Game is dead, fam.

PATCH NOTES ARE OUT

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2255460

>Added a new Strength/Intelligence Support Gem - Multiple Totems Support: Supported skills have +2 to maximum number of Summoned Totems. When you use a supported totem skill, you summon two totems instead of one. Supported skills deal less damage.

So a heirophant can shit out 3 at once

Nice

Is there way how to play this game without stashtabs. I got to lvl 93 last league but i dropped game and uninstalled when i found out you literally need them to do endgame content.

>>15822232

Considering people killed uber elder with just the 4 tabs yes, but you have to be good at the game.

Hell, people killed uber elder with no tabs at all.

>>15822232

if you wanna try out the expensive builds you gonna need a lot of currency and that means pimping out your stash with more tabs

>>15822237

or you can go the old way of having mule characters

>>15822232

>you literally need them to do endgame content.

Literally not true.

Stash tabs make things more convenient but there's nothing that you can't do without them, it's not like you can only use maps if you have a map tab or something. It just makes hoarding shitloads of maps easier.

>>15822235

Not really. Its more about keeping only necessary things. Its extremely unpleasant. Game about loot where you have to drop even good shit because you have no space for it.

>>15822237

Expensive builds are impossible because currency takes up more space than you have.

You can have multiple accounts for your shit but its really fucking annoying. And trading is much harder without premium tabs. With premium tabs youspend like 10 seconds pricing an item and it sints in your stash waiting to give you its price, and without premium stash tabs you have to use side software set everything up and in the end waste a lot of time and your stash space (which you also dont have).

Map stash tab, currency stash tab are must have. Few premium tabs(or one big one) is also mandatory unless you want to be poor. and like 10-15 regular tabs. Cards tab is convinient unless you want to only pick up good cards which will sell. You always need 1-2 stash tabs to run uberlab because it drops so much stuff. In general you always need few empty tabs to stash your shit before sorting.

>>15822235

>Hell, people killed uber elder with no tabs at all.

During void challange leagues. When each map dropped so much shit that everyone had to play with super strict loot filters. Possibility for some chinese autist does not equal "average joe can enjoy a game being played this way" and he clearly asked that. Its possible to play without any stash tabs but its fucking painful and stupid. Its like saying that freemium games are free and you can get everything without paying anything. And indeed, with some random events you can simply win stash tabs instead of purchasing them! So game is completely free, right?

Basically dont bother playing without stash tabs, play d2 medianXL/grim dawn instead. And if you havent playid grim dawn at all, play it instead

It's cookieclicker tier trash.

>>15822322

If you can consider 20 (or so)pets an army than you can have it in grim dawn now.

I'm going to go witch/occultist.

Arctic breath with cold snap adding bonechill, guess CI because no life anywhere I path and do blasphemy temporal chains and vortex for defense. Getting a rimegaze and spine of the first claimant to add more cold dot multiplier. See how that works.

>>15823635

i mean, all the mts are cosmetic other than a couple of stash tabs that are de facto necessary. sure, the game is full of people looking like retards that they pay for, but if you like arpg skinner boxes, it's not an unfair one.

>>15829651

Honestly it feels crypto buy to play, which I guess is a good thing. I suppose once could think of it as buy to play with an option for retards to dump cash into it.

I've not tried arc trapper before, so I'll probably try that this league before arc gets nerfed into the ground.

>>15821121

I did a Summon Phantasm on Kill build last league with Soulwrest and Bubonic Trail and the only times I had to stop was to pop Vaal Skeles/Vaal Haste on bosses. Otherwise you just Phase Run through packs that instantly explode and automatically leash your phantasms on top of you as you go.

>>15823635

Grim Dawn feels extremely slow to me. Which is a shame, the necromancer is fun as fuck, but I haven't managed to get farther than lvl 22.

>path of microtransactions

>>15836512

>Why the fuck would you use heralds and blade vortex as a summoner?

He's clearly alluding to BV being much faster.

>>15823635

Fucking grim dawn almost made me break my keyboard in half

>playing hardcore (never tried normal)

>4th character, actually making some progress

>shaman/necromancer is fucking tanky holy shit

>damage is great too (not using any pet)

>first time killing the chtonian boss, actually made it to the expansion wew lad

>Im killing everything in seconds even mini-bosses

>15k life at lvl 55

>get to shaper of flesh

>kill it after a few close calls

>oh shit I actually did it

>drops 2 of the purple items, first ones I see since I started

>I move to where I think the exit is

>stop and open inventory to check the ítems I got

>after a few seconds screen turns red, I'm on low life

>panic and start running

>potion is not enough and I die

>ground was fucking aether corruption and killed me

Haven't played since, I'll go back when they launch the expac

>>15836598

Its like saying that vallets are not mandatory since you can carry everything in pockets. How much time you will waste by converting small amounts of currency? Not to mention stashing your shit. After you run 2-3 maps you will have full stash tab of unsorted shit. Some of it will cost few chaos orbs. Even 100c+ items will take sizable amount of space after few hours of farming. Not to mention maps. Hell you need one stash tabs for vaal fragments alone if you want to be efficient. One stash tabs as situational gear + flasks. One stash tab of currency. One stash tab with maps and fragments (but its not fuckign enought for anything). And you will have grand total of one stash tab empty if you lucky. And you have to ignore everything below 10c. And you have to sell everything same day you picked up because it will feel in less than few hours. And you have to play tetris all day every day and converting currency. And you cant craft anything for sale because you dont have space for it.

Few hundred alteration orbs plus a 30 jewels can make you few hundred chaos orbs easily. But without stash tabs you cant do it. Unless you want to manage whole fucking farm of mules every fucking time.

Granted, the less you pick up, the richer you are, but its a fucking pain in the ass. Hell, to do uber elder you need to fucking manage few stash tabs full of maps. Unless you want to purchase one fucking map at a time before doing it each time. And I can spend few minutes talking about trading but I think I made my point already.

You dont say that its fucking pleasant to manage everything in 4 stash tabs compared to all the good shit.

Starting league with a good ol glad bleedsplosion build using Shattering steel and then lancing steel. If my calculations are correct, impale gonna be popping

>>15836899

>Ok, you win, enjoy your tetris, gook.

<"I have to pick up everything on the entire fucking planet, why doesn't GGG just add extra stash tabs? I don't get it, my inventory never has enough room"

No, you're just shit at managing items.

<"b-but muh tetris"

Sure, let me just sort through my inventory of things I didn't pick up. Can't have my empty space take up all of my empty space, what if I don't have enough room to put it?

>>15836899

Anon he didn't say bleed poison, he's talking about the gladiator ascendancy

>>15821178

>the entire content of the rest of the game can be done by a fucking bot

oh fuck looks like I can't play 80% of the vidya out there anymore darn gee

>>15837025

>Anon he didn't say bleed poison, he's talking about the gladiator ascendancy

>Starting league with a good ol glad bleedsplosion build

>>15837055

Bleedsplosion you dyslexic fuck.

I really soured on the game after an anon showed some information hinting at GGG actually working with the Chinese gear selling sites (besides those sites even existing). Maybe someone knows what I'm talking about, it was a image and to me it sounded somewhat plausible. Would also explain why GGG doesn't appear to crack down on items bought from third-party sites and they are owned by Tencent now so jewery isn't unexpected.

Besides that, the loading of new areas was really fucky last time I played, would semi-frequently get infinite loading screens and then booted to the log-in screen. Had to redo a lot of progress because of this.

why do you guys play this grindfest

>>15837502

>They let the RMTers enjoy themselves for a little while and then drop the banhammer on them.

The information posted seemed to imply that GGG directly supplied some site with gear created by a dev. I don't recall the details exactly but the rarity of the unique in question and it being a new league would have made it impossible to farm even by chink standards. They also had some rolls that were suspiciously similar with each other (and it was not during a time when a dupe exploit existed).

>Define "semi-frequently"

Sometimes 3 in an hour, at other times 1 after 2 hours. I don't have bad internet, use a wired connection and my hardware is pretty good.

>>15837560

>The information posted seemed to imply that GGG directly supplied some site with gear created by a dev

GGG themselves create items out of thin air for these sites in leagues where it shouldn't be possible for them to exist yet. The way they do it is most likely through an intermediary so that their names don't show up in the event that something leaks.

>and it was not during a time when a dupe exploit existed

You can't really assume that one doesn't exist. Because it is possible that someone has found one but is being careful with it to not attract too much attention. But here it's just GGG making shit up. Either way, it shouldn't be that big of an issue, since most of those items don't end up in the economy and the RMTers get banned. Pretty annoying to see it in global though.

>Sometimes 3 in an hour, at other times 1 after 2 hours. I don't have bad internet, use a wired connection and my hardware is pretty good.

That is not normal. What I guess is that the servers were acting up at the time, meaning it was probably at the start of the league.

>>15837656

>GGG themselves create items out of thin air for these sites in leagues where it shouldn't be possible for them to exist yet.

>But here it's just GGG making shit up. Either way, it shouldn't be that big of an issue, since most of those items don't end up in the economy and the RMTers get banned.

It's the principle of the thing, even if it's hard or even impossible to hinder all types of RMT sites they're instead actively promoting their existence and even profit from them.

You'd expect a competent dev team that feels passionate about their game would want to make it as balanced as possible and discourage RMT rather than making it a business model (at least Blizzard was upfront about it and even they realized their mistake, or at least the public backlash made them). Doing dirty business in the shadows with the chinks is just horrid fucking behaviour.

>That is not normal. What I guess is that the servers were acting up at the time, meaning it was probably at the start of the league.

It was, but for ~2 weeks.

>>15837870

you do know titty-bitches are still in the game right? There are loads of titties and horrible behavior towards everyone in the world. Them being sjw i don't think is probable.

>>15837961

>Gotrek and Felix

Patrician taste.

>>15837961

I would like a combination of Atziri red and slaanesh daemons. the multiple titties and bright fire and passion red is a cool combination. Together with more literal edgy claws rather than the crab claws that they have, i think that would be a really cool looking aesthetic.

The colour schemes of the Vaal is really cool i think. I wish there was more red in the game.

>>15821322

Yes with Vaal skeletons, why else would you use Femurs?

>>15838054

Just wait until you accept the new terms and conditions and then get thrown back into the queue again.

>rollback right after I killed brutus

Goddamn it.

>>15838481

Oh damn, my download finishes in 10 minutes. The queue's still up? Fuck

This is weird. I logged in and made my character then completed through the mud flats. Then I went AFK for about 30 minutes and when I came back I have to wait in a queue even though I did not need a queue the first time I logged in.

Yeah it looks like they lowered the player limit after a couple of server crashes/rollbacks shortly after going live.

>>15838547

Expect that to happen on the first day of any league. You can expect to constantly get randomly disconnected and thrown into the queue at any time within the first day and a half. Such is the cost of starting with a massive economic advantage.

>>15838510

Queue goes down super fast, had one of 35k and it was done in 5 mins

>>15838628

I've been in a 10k queue for over 5 minutes and it's now at 7700

>>15838366

Why do niggers make everything a fucking spectacle. Really this is a new level of retarded.

>>15837870

There was also something about suspicious RNG stats hinting at possible dev creation rather than drop.>>15838366

>I think of it from a pragmatic perspective. RMT sites will always exist for any game of this sort so if the devs are able to exploit this to both shit on RMTers and make a profit, I am all for it.

I respect your opinion but I disagree. Game developers always have the option of exploiting their customers for monetary gain at the loss of consumer friendly practices. Now you're arguing that RMT sites are going to exist regardless but I believe they'd have a significantly less of an impact on the game if GGG banned buyers and sellers on sight and didn't help by providing gear.

And like I said it's just really scummy, if they want a RMAH in order to curb RMT sites whilst taking through a cut from money transactions (which was probably Blizzards motivation), they could have made it an official thing.

Why don't they? Because people would be fucking outraged and tons of users would leave. Why is the same action more moral just because they pretend to not do it, while simultaneously doing it behind the scenes (I'd argue it's even less acceptable)? And even though I agree that people using real money should get permanently banned, supporting the sellers but banning the buyers is scummy as hell.

>I already told you, they did it long before the chinks bought them. As far as I can tell, their RMT strategy hasn't changed since Tencent got hold, they are doing the same thing now as they were before.

I wasn't really specifically referring to Tencent involvement, just that those farming sites are almost exclusively run by chinks.

>Two weeks sounds about right. Anon, literally every single league release has made the servers shit themselves.

Fair enough.

>>15839748

Nevermind what I just wrote, GGG doesn't screw you over, they are the best company ever and can do no wrong. Please do not spread such lies, it would be better for the quality and enjoyment of the game if you refrain from such slander.

>>15823635

Where can I download Grim Dawn at anyone?

So shit has been working for the last half hour, so that's nice. I went with GC totems and just finished standard lab.

>>15840091

I ragequit the entire league after crashing 3 times and being in queue for 2/4 hours. Fuck this.

>>15840503

>>15840609

You mean crash of just disconnect? If it crashes it might be usual "multithreading" bug which was fixed years ago. Problem solved once and for all. Fucking ggg and their stance "I have this bug, when are you going to fix it?" "we fixed it already you dont have any bugs" "but…" "GAME IS FIXED!" or when some streamer takes interview and developers go "this bug really exist?" about shit like fucking desync or scorching ray bug.

My game is glitched, it says to talk to Helena in my hideout when I am in act two, but Helena never showed up in my hideout and I am in act 4 now. Also, I was booted from the game while attempting to enter one of the four safe houses of the syndicate. When I finally managed to log back in, the safe house was gone and I never got to see who one of the leaders was. Also, I bunch of new dialogue options appeared with Jun and I have no idea what she is talking about, so I must have missed something important.

>>15840622

My game will just occasionally instantly CTD without any message. Several times without any log, only twice with a log.

>>15840609

The problem isn't the amount of crashes, it's that I was in queue for 2 hours straight because of them.

>>15840622

"Path of Exile has stopped working" It's not the multithreading bug. I leveled to act 5 to test my build yesterday without any crashes and I never crashed this much before. Just randomly happens during loadscreens.

>>15840821

>"Path of Exile has stopped working" It's not the multithreading bug.

Sounds like specific bugs for area. Oh well, good for me because I cant play yet. *Smuggirl.jpg*

>>15840015

goodolddownloads share thread has some links lying around. >>15829206

It was implied on yesterday's devstream that it'll be on the Christmas sale. They're also adding a patch next week with 'by far the biggest changelog we've ever written', supposedly containing a lot of rebalancing and some new features like searchable constellation map. Their new expansion comes out Q1 2019.

>>15841648

>Many online games shut down because keeping up the services for longer than five years is not profitable.

Also on this, for most games, once the game is ready for release, the vast majority of the staff will get told to fuck off and only a small few will remain at the company for maintenance purposes. Having a large staff constantly is a massive drain on your funding and very few games are able to maintain a large number of employees. Even most MMOs that provide constant releases and expansions do not keep very much of their staff, even though they too have cosmetic micro-transactions.

>>15840857

Who is this woman?

>>15841613

Monetization stayed the same. GGG is barely changed outside of hiring that real coder who was fixing their shit.

>>15841653

>>15841648

>That is not necessarily true, funding is a very important aspect

Absolutely and I completely support all their cosmetics (and even stash-tabs) RMT's. But with a game that has actually succeeded in getting off the ground, has a high and stable playerbase with a bunch of whales spending ridiculous amounts of money on supporter packs, you don't need to take to consumer unfriendly practices in order to turn a hefty profit and keep the development going.

Supporting backdoor RMT sites is an active choice they've made based on greed, not desperation.

>They punish it because they DON'T see it as a fair system.

>I have never seen gear gated behind paying real money being fair.

>My point is that, as long as the illusion of fairness remains at a suitable enough level, it will be beneficial

And my point is that I'm against it on a principled level regardless of how large or small impact it has on the game.

<It's an unfair and exploitative system, everyone including GGG agrees with this.

<Regardless they go out of their way to support it whilst banning a few whales for 'public appearance'

<Those whales will go right back with a new account and spend more money, meaning GGG earns rather than loses money by banning them

<They know what they're doing is wrong since they're hiding it. This proves malice and greed rather than incompetence and greed (see Blizzard RMAH)

It's disgusting and I'd never pay a company for their 'ethical' micro-transactions if they're pulling stuff like this behind the scenes. Too bad I'm already a good goy that bought the beta supporter pack alongside some stash and currency tabs.

>>15841677

I don't take issue with the official micro-transactions, it's the game developers creating items for RMT sites while pretending they're against the practice of buying gear and currency with real money.

The game didn't have any RMT sites trying to exploit the economy for multiple years while it was still in beta. Everything was fine back then.

>>15841707

>you don't need to take to consumer unfriendly practices in order to turn a hefty profit and keep the development going.

Well then provide evidence of this happening with a company releasing content so long and at the same level of quality without having anything in the slightest immoral.

>And my point is that I'm against it on a principled level regardless of how large or small impact it has on the game.

Principles don't mean a single fucking thing down here in reality.

>>15841707

have you got a single fact to back that shit up

this is the one game I've ever seen where people go through such absurd mental gymnastics just to bitch about it

when the vast majority of folks I've seen bitch about PoE and GGG by extension or even directly are the same cocksuckers that slurp up any KGrinder MMO or JRPG cocksuckfest with drop rates that mathematically are laughable

>>15841714

First of all I believe PoE's success stems from filling an otherwise non-existent niche.

It's a F2P 'action-RPG' (for lack of a better well recognized genre term) with large amounts of grind that inflates the potential time investment (not necessarily a bad thing) and always means there's more to do in order to minmax your build. It has a ladder system that frequently resets and adds content updates which incentives resetting your progress and promotes competitiveness, adding even more replayability. The F2P label also massively increases their potential playerbase by catering to third-world shitters including the Asian market which are averse to P2P but at the same time are big cashcows when it comes to micro-transactions.

This is how they're not only staying afloat but keep making profits. I seriously doubt that their support of RMT sites is what makes their continuous support of the game a possibility. That is why I believe it's based on greed rather than survival.

>Well then provide evidence of this happening with a company releasing content so long and at the same level of quality without having anything in the slightest immoral.

Unironically Warframe which I feel also fills a niche no other game currently does. I don't think their business model is comparable to a RMAH since every individual item and frame is equal with no RNG stats while everything is obtainable at known locations meaning it's relatively easy to get a very specific thing without the complete RNG of random unique drops with varying stats. Their 'funbux' are fully tradeable between players and easy to earn without spending actual money meaning you can buy cosmetics without ever giving them money unlike PoE (Riven's were a mistake but serves as a tool to earn funbux for free).

Their business model is a bit different than PoE's but in the end I feel like they're both on equal footing and as consumer friendly you can get for F2P games whilst still sustaining continuous development. But this is ignoring GGG's support of RMT sites which if taken into account, makes DE's business model more 'ethical'.

The only other 'competitors' to PoE are Diablo 3 and Grim Dawn, both of which are P2P limiting third-world players. Diablo 3 has ladders but since they don't add new content at resets, the incentive to restart is limited to the competitive autistic Blizzdrones. The game is also much more shallow and makes minmaxing various builds not very entertaining and further reduces replayability.

Grim Dawn is an entirely different beast, while the game is a great single-player experience it can't expect the same longevity with no ladders, no content updates (outside of balance changes and expansions), no human interaction other than invite only and no cashcows to milk with micro-transactions.

>>15841787

Their (potential) involvement in backdoor RMT dealings is the only thing I've taken issue with other than some problems with game performance. I hope it's not true, but I'm inclined to believe it is.

The evidence I've read strongly implies their involvement with the RMT site, I don't have the image (which was posted in a PoE thread here a few months back) so I can't back up my claim but the other anon also seems to agree that this is happening.

It's also (((coincidentally))) the same company that sells gold in Diablo 3 and WoW which Blizzard are not very good at cracking down against and their involvement in a similar practice was suggested as well.

>>15841851

>Diablo 3 is f2p in china.

All my other points still stand. I was simply making the argument that PoE fills a hole no other game does and is part of why it's so successful. And should be profitable without needing to do underhanded business

>>15841858

>there wes a thread about rmt something

>league begin at august and month later there are a lof of items! Its IMPOSSIBLE! x3

Sure good arguments. I mean its impossible to get all these items in a month, right?

>no one should have an item a month later in a league,

Okay. Seems legit. Even screenshot of a logo of a site and evidence based on data from scammer site. In fact I also run poe rmt site, and right now I currently have all the most popular items stocked. Each is 10$, I am generous.

>>15836512

>set items

no thanks

>>15841835

>non-existent niche

read that to yourself

I can't help but think of the plane scene in every Betrayal sequence.

>Tell me about Gravicius, why does he wear the mask?

>Tell me about Riker, why does he wear the mask?

>Was getting caught part of your plan?

>Of course, Perandus refused our offer in favor yours. We had to find out what he told you.

<*Executes someone.

>He didn't die so good.

>>15842800

>Perhaps he's wondering why someone would execute a man before throwing him out of the syndicate

>>15843298

so fucking based

Welp, 300 hours mute for saying that the syndicate mobs "hit harder than a truck on christmas in germany".

Whisper Nick_GGG and call him a nigger.

>>15842918

Hillock's a big guy.

>>15843298

>>15843730

You guys memed at the wrong time. Chat goes crazy with people I'm sure are from here sometimes. Remember, all the retarded Diablo3 rapefugees have infested the game.

>>15843298

i'm guessing you can appeal these bans, right? there's no way they would seriously mute you for 9500 hours, but then again if you never spent a time on the game they'll probably just fuck you and make a new account

>>15844093

Mutes get longer with every offense. That guy must have a long history of shitposting.

>>15844115

>>15844102

>>15844093

>>15844084

I've hid global chat three leagues ago and never looked back. Best decision I ever made. The game is 10x more enjoyable without the Reddit faggot cancer on the screen. I couldn't go 5 minutes without seeing something that pissed me off, and saying anything would get me banned.

>>15844125

>and saying anything would get me banned.

Last league I've said some antisemtic shit and didn't get banned. Granted, it was mild, but still. I'm sure you could have gotten away with some shit. I've seen others argue about shit and I'm sure they are probably from here.

>>15844304

>Not going to test the waters on league start though.

Again, D3 rapefugees.

>>15841858

so hearsay

yeap, it's the d3gees again

>>15844346

but mutes only have effect in global, you can still whisper and join parties, mutes do jack shit if you only go on global to shitpost.

>>15844365

I am a retard then. I rarely ever trade or party up so I never actually tried it out when muted. Only ever traded when I needed a build-enabling item or someting I can't get on my own like a five off-colour six-link.

>>15821093

What do skeleton builds look like on the Chinese PoE server?

>>15844803

I found one too. It dropped out of one of those shitty tribal chests in act 7.

Rank 3 Janus tore me a new asshole, loving this league.

>>15842800

Now that you say it, they're hit Bravo Nolan levels of bad writing.

>>15845670

>Now that you say it, they're hit Bravo Nolan levels of bad writing

Whole league is based on this video.

>>15845739

seems like pretty good writing to me

It's generally accepted that streamers and certain other influencers get better drop rates right?

Wasn't it found that only certain accounts in delve were allowed to get the 4 socket resonators? Doesn't this seem a bit odd to anyone else?

>>15846066

Don't blame GGG when your seed simply isn't strong enough.

>>15846084

>tfw the strength of your seed is generated at birth.

>>15846156

Same price range as any other MTX.

>>15821080

marauder berserker cleave

How do you figure out which active skill is actually worth building around?

>>15847483

You play the game. Almost every skill can be built around, some just fall off harder than others.

>>15847483

Read a guide about it, because there's a ton of "dead" skills that will let you get to early mapping fine, and then hard cap and suck shit

do not listen to >>15847503

>>15847600

Pretty gay, especially because all the builds I've seen are turbo meta trash.

Addendum: Isn't there something simple and effective like Blizzard Sorc in D2 was??

>>15847639

Well yeah, the game's basically built around meta trash, god help you if a streamer looks at an item you need too, that basically will brick your build if it requires an item.

>>15848697

You aren't paranoid enough.

>make starter build that only needs a single unique to function, said unique only cost 5c at the end of delve

>figure it would cost at most 40c at the very start because of rarity

>it's 3ex and going up

This is fucking bullshit.

>>15849173

Your fault you should've known a streamer was going to use the item. Just completely reroll your character and try again!

>>15849173

Demand at the end of a league is a retarded way to determine a build unless it is a trash unique like Veil of the Night.

>>15849173

This is why you play SSF

3 days in my CoC Assassin build is going strong. Only item I am missing is a Lioneye's Glare but I have a bow with Cast on Skill use which is probably equally as good.

HOW THE FUCK DO i FIX THE CONSTANT LAG?

ALSO, FUCK YOU GRINDR GEAR FAGGOTS

>>15846066

Streamers get better drops because they play 14 hours a day for 2 months straight while you play 2, in which you do 10 maps. The 4 socket resonator thing I think was an actual bug, a friend of mine was getting them and got rich off them, while I never saw one, before or after "fix", but I didn't play league much, they could have done it on purpose, who knows.

A Reddit post was the only announcement that +1 totem shields had been removed from the game despite being basically the only example of a good new mod shown. Even Reddit thought this was fucking stupid so, again on Reddit, it was announced it would soon be readded and the details of its reqs (ilevel 75) were given with instructions to horde them. Oh and it will be at least a 1 ex mod. And this used to be standard on heirophants. Saw that on the official forums

…Shall I goy out for some premium guild stash tabs and start a new 8/v/ guild?

>>15854634

What the Fuck is the point of guilds in poe

>>15854921

Anyone else with it or just yourself? I rememer originally we had Greuse

>>15854921

I remember being in the 8ch guild, owner got someone to buy gtabs for him and then bailed, didn't think anyone else had invite privileges.

Is flicker strike a sure fire way to die in this league like it was last time? If it is I'm not playing

>>15854943

Everything but totems is a surefire way to die, betrayal mobs are way overtuned, also, delve is still in game.

>>15854949

I dislike delve. Do they let you strap the cart to your back yet?

>>15854936

Only me.

>>15854942

>didn't think anyone else had invite privileges

I have

@Pathofoneshots

>>15854954

Nope.

>Constant lag spikes every 10 or so minutes

What servers are they running this on 20 year old IBMs?

>>15854954

You already can outrun the cart and it matches your speed.

>>15854996

No it can't.

>>15855305

Yes it can.

>>15855305

Did you really played delve? It ltierally did that from the start

>>15855305

Yes, it can.

Probably the fastest I ever quit a league. 3 Days in, got to 85 and everything felt extremely underwhelming. Ended up getting crap for drops, making it to T7 maps and losing all of my maps down to T1.

>>15854634

did you ever do this? I'd join a guild for shitposting chat channels and shit. not that i'm that good or anything, this is my first fresh league.

>>15855305

yes it can

What's the most enjoyable class to play as? I remember playing as a witch before, but that was years ago.

>Reminder not to give your money to tencent.

Tencent owns PoE? Was not aware

>>15857570

>Tencent owns PoE? Was not aware

They own 80% according to wikipedia.

>always roll life/armor melee

>facetank most content without even investing heavily into survival

>want to try a spellcaster for once

>keep instadying because ES is fucking garbage

How the hell are you supposed to survive with witch/ES?

>>15857570

tencent acquired most of ggg this year, but they've let them manage themselves, chinese version of poe however, is definitely handled by tencent, and it has more p2w aspects like currency picking pets and exp conserving tokens (that dont work in hc), which even that seems kinda tamed for china, oh they turned skeletons into spiders and have some other lazy censorship too, I like their version of malachai fight though, less red projectiles over red mines over red ground with red enemies.

Are there anti-monopoly laws in China or is it just the wildwild west of Capitalism? It seems like you can't find any sort of major game studio that isn't majority owned by tencent these days.

>>15857637

>Are there laws in china

Yeah don't challenge the authority of the communist regime, do that and they don't seem to give a shit unless you get in their way or they want something you have.

Oh nice, another thread for me to shill this game

>>15857284

Starting mapping is always the most annoying part of a league for me. It seems like lately that new maps just don't drop like they're supposed too and I'm playing on rare maps. The first league I started back in Legacy never had this problem and it seems to be getting progressively worse. All I want to do is progress through the atlas but the only map drops are low tier shit of stuff I have already completed.

>>15858064

You are buying from zana right?

>>15857834

I'm only really good with casters. I have a psychic assassin at 120 and slowly farming K3KBA for a few set pieces. Did most of the destruction quests too, except for the hard+ rated ones, with about 10k HP in Tiefling form.

None of the other classes feel as fun or robust, am I doing something wrong?

>>15858069

Yes, but she'll also sell crap I already have most of the time and I have to wait an entire day for her stock to reset. There should be a more reliable way to get maps.

>>15857557

other anon invited me to the rubble of the old guild, but I was ready to purchase multiple tabs if we got attention

curses are the most fun aspect but I fucking hate starting from witch nodes and I hate ES but that "curse hexproof enemies" shit is a life saver for such an investment

>>15858497

Poe.trade

>>15858268

Melee classes are harder, even the developers said so, so there will probably be some changes about it on the next patch.

As for fun classes, i like mana sorceress but she is very squish after they nerfed the cold passive.

>>15858268

>>15859686

Is whirlwind Barb still good? Can it clear all content?

>Getting through mapping

>Gear is decent, not horrible but not great either but for a few days into a league it's fine, comparable to what I had in delve and it worked wonders, around 6k hp with 75/75/75/25 res

>All of the normal game content is a breeze, rare rolled map bosses do maybe 40-50% of my health on a crit or chain of hits but that's what instant life flasks are for when my leech can't keep up

>clearing t9s and t10s at this point, filling up the atlas

>decide to go back to t7s and t8s to get more maps to drop

>oneshotted by some betrayal cunt that pops out of a portal in front of me

What in the fuck is the point? It's always just a giant clusterfuck of "here's three guys and a million adds for them, spam your aoe and good luck actually making anything out, also enjoy literally getting killed instantly".

I guess this sums it up >>15846421

"Bosses are more interesting when your build literally doesn't matter and you get oneshotted also fuck melee builds that aren't specced to be invincible just play ele hit lmao"

The syndicate boss fight was actually well made though, at most each hit only did 50% of my health and it came down to holding onto my flasks as long as possible since there's no adds to get infinite flask charges. Shame the normal syndicate encounters are fucking trash.

im getting owned this league. dying a ton. doing a consecrated path champ now

>>15861926

selling 3 identical maps now gives different results instead of fixed, you can even see what maps youre getting if you mix up the order of the maps you put in the sell window. Really helps getting new maps.

>>15862050

idk it's 1080p stretched to 4k.

I decided to go with my backup plan and create a Tec Slam Berserker.

>>15862093

How do you get a giant map device?

>>15862188

No idea. Was able to select it as an alternate to the Map Device.

>>15862188

The same way you change the style of an object in editing, select it when modifying your hideout and roll your mousewheel.

>>15861383

Cyclone Marauder is pretty solid up through like t7 maps but I always quit around that point so I can't answer for all content.

>>15862385

>>15861383

Cyclone is not a top tier since forever. You probably can do everything with it, but there are faster and better and cheaper builds. AOE is really small damage is average, range is non existent, mana requirement is too big. And as result is not that pleasant to play as you might expect.

>>15863100

>Didn't work well enough though, and there are a lot of spellcasters with a melee weapon like a dagger or mace who would hit Vigilant Strike with a The Vigil jewel for a 12 sec

Retarded idea. Wasting few jewel slots and few gem slots. Just use ground slam with fortify like normal people or just bite a bullet and dont use it at all. And casters really fucking rarely use wands anyway so they use same movement skills like everybody else so they likely will be using shield dash.

>Lightning Strike or Frost Blades

If you planning to build around frost blades ignore projectile portion of damage, regular mobs will die anyway and melee portion is important for boss kills. Also melee range of frost blades is fucking amazing. Too bad there are skills with even bigger melee range.

>>15850482

Can any summoner tell me how good dual wielding Arakaali's Fang is after the buff?

>100% chance to summon spiders on kill instead of 20%

>always level 75 regardless of area level

>spiders have 100% more movement speed, 30% more damage, buffed range and always poison

<cooldown of 2 seconds

<spiders no longer leap

Is it better to just take the essence-crafted permanent SRS or is it actually good now?

>>15863100

>Fortify.

I was thinking of how to balance it. What if you got fortify automatically in stages based on how much melee damage you've done recently. That way only dedicated melee fighters could get the maximum benefit from it.

>>15863652

They should just change cyclone to a channelled skill already. I've wanted to test out a Ngamhu's Flame cyclone Chieftain with cast on critical, desecrate, and cremation. It would constantly summon corpses and then explode them, but getting enough reliable crit and accuracy ruin the build. Cast while channeling would fit perfectly though. I could use cast on melee kill but it would not work on single target.

>>15864876

>Ngamhu's Flame

Also relatievely weak. I did red elder with it but it was unpleasant.

Do main character stats (Str, Dex, Int) grow naturally by a small margin as they level or do you have to get them all via the skill tree?

>>15865130

Passive tree and gear, the only thing that grows naturally is life and mana.

>>15865148

I see, thanks.

>>15865130

No you only get Health, Accuracy, Evasion and Mana per Level, you get stats from nodes and gear.

>there are people who go entire leagues without finding any exalted

>find 4 in the same day, and another the day before that

Also fuck those fortresses in red maps. Way to much burst damage out of nowhere and way too many infinite minions.

>>15866505

There is literally only 1 map that costs more than 1 exalted, and that's perandus manor. The only non unique maps that cost more than 20c are vaal temple and shaped elder maps.

>>15866505

The totem just goes clockwise, it's not too hard to avoid until you get to the final phases where it's constantly spewing out attacks. I think they said they were fixing the leap slam bug. They do need to make it more obvious which quadrant you need to stand in in each phase though, shit is confusing because there's no indicator 90% of the time, and the 10% of the time it is there you're likely on the other side of the map trying to drain her energy shield so it will actually work.

>>15866437

What build are you using and what maps are you running to get that much?

>>15866598

I'm running a soulwrest summoner but all the exalted drops were from random places. 2 were from delves and the other 3 were from random yellow maps I was doing for atlas completion/moving around elder.

>>15866589

>totem goes clockwise

So? You still have to run around in circle instead of damaging boss who is constantly teleporting and regenirating ES.

>>15866625

use a singleton totem to stop the regen safely

as melee, mastermind is way, way more fair than T11+ triple/quadruple syndicate.

>>15866505

GGG really fucking wants you to play Cold Snap Occultist

>>15878286

>go slow

>have fun

Pick one

>>15878286

cookie clicker gameplay

>>15878286

Why would you say that SSF is needed to play melee? That's utterly retarded.

>>15880858

>loot gambling game relies on addiction leading to willingness to spend money on overpriced pixel dressup

>covers every screen in particle effects and dim lighting so that you never even notice what your character looks like

No gears are grinding inside the head of those kiwis.

>>15880965

And most MTX look like shit. They even released mtx to remove aura effect completely. Wait until they release "reduced particle number" for skills.

>>15880858

Except you can't see your enemies much less your character through the fucking insane particle effects.

They sell "blank" effects that tone down the particles

>>15878286

Amen, brother. The best way to play this game is No Guides + Solo-Self-Found mode. Struggling to make something viable out of whatever you happen to find is really rewarding.

I've never been able to understand people who copy a build point-for-point and purchase entire sets of gear; it's like, you just had someone else play 80% of your game for you, all that's left for you to do is run through the zones clicking at that point. I feel like people who run builds are the same types who read the last page of a book before they start it.

>>15887773

which is why SSF builds are so massively varied between HP stacking+MoM with a safe skill, and the other HP stacking with a safe skill. Or you can do the other option which is make a build on your own don't stack enough HP (because pure ES/CI in SSF might as well just delete your character with how hard they nerfed CI) peter out at like T11 maps and then have to restart because you completely bricked your character, hope you enjoyed farming for maps, because you get to do that fun of bricking on maps over and over again until you just get tired and realize that anything that isn't just clicking on an enemy (except RF but that's basically AFKing until an enemy dies) is locked behind a massive gearwall

>newb

>play arc totem because idk what im doing, just wanna see how progression works and get neat stuff to drop

>get 2 exalts and decide im gonna go in on ES and eventually CI because it sounds cool

>turns into an absolute rollercoaster of buying shavs, realizing i dont need shavs or LL, then buying a 6 socket high ES vaal regalia, blowing regret points along the way, blowing all my fuses trying to craft this thing (blew way more than a 20c Jeweler's Touch would have cost me)

>end the day about 75c net loss from fucking around with shit i didnt understand

I learned a lot but perhaps not worth what it cost

On the plus side I get to fuck around in T10 maps and eternal lab now

>>15891656

Dont worry about currency. As long as you can do maps you are good. Just dont try chaos recipe as a way to farm. That shit barely worth it on 1st day. And install more strict lootfilter. And plan ahead. As CI you can probably use whatever with good ES. Just syndicate it into 28q via fortification hillrock. Also get eye of chaula, or whatever unupgraded called. You need stun avoidance and freeze avoidance. Otherwise you will be frozen a lot, even on SC its really unpleasant.

>>15888243

>how hard they nerfed CI

Not really. They nerfed bases but added new shit with ES. And how you can craft ES+quality on gear and 28quality is base for items.

>is locked behind a massive gearwall

False. A lot of build can do everything with cheap crafted gear. Not to mention all the fucking ways to target farm gear. I mean, you can pretty much get +3 empower before you hit lvl 90 with syndicate if you know what you are doing. Hell, I used fossils twice (just to see how It works) and both times they gave me an awesome items.

>RF but that's basically AFKing until an enemy dies

Also false.

>>15887773

>No Guides

I am not sure. Poe has way too much shit which can only be explained by lengthy guides. But SSF is probably the best way to play it but you need guides to know what to get where and what you can expect to get.

Global channels are wall to wall faggot, and they talk about the cakekike way too much.

t. SSF Pro™

Can you have fun with this game if you prefer to go with the flow instead of playing autistic meta build games and googling for the perfect build?

>>15891704

>only 2 ex at white maps

I'm starting reds and i have yet to see an ex or even a divine. This league is shit for currency drops compared to delve.

>>15891776

the frist time i played the game i tried to make my own build and my character bricked at tier 1 maps, so unless you are going to stare for hours at a path of building screen, meta builds are the way to go if you wanna do all the content

>>15891776

A lot of stuff will one-shot you. Take life nodes and ignore armor, armor is shit. When you complete act 4 two skill gems will become available "cast when damage taken", and "immortal call". These two together can prevent you from instantly dying if you are hit by multiple attacks at once as it grants you half a second of invincibility upon taking damage. If dying is an issue, play as the juggernaut and stack endurance charges for survivability as the majority of damage in the game is physical. Always have fortify up + a basalt flask and you should be fine for the most part. Once you get rich, you can make a new character and opt to ignore survivability in favor of raw damage so that you can kill everything on screen before it can touch you. Things will go much faster at this stage.

>>15891803

You can get cosmetics by doing the league challenges.

>>15891806

What cosmetics? One of your choosing or some shit you don't even want?

Can you loot that armor in game? No you can't.

In a game about fucking armor.

>>15891810

>In a game about fucking armor.

You might as well complain that the most expensive items are max rolled meta crafted rares instead of uniques. How your character looks is meaningless unless you're the type of faggot that stands around in towns showing off your gaudy glowing piece of shit to impress everyone about how much money you wasted.

>>15891804

I forgot to add, make sure you have a flask which will remove bleeding upon use. Bleeding and corrupted blood can kill you extremely fast if you don't stop it right away. Have a flask that removes freeze as well.

>>15891807

Sometimes the build guides will have a more intuitive path along the skill tree that will save you a couple of skill points. I have made a few builds myself and was happy with them until I looked up a guide using that same skill and realized I fucked up.

>>15891818

nothing wrong with researching and having a plan. How does looking up builds save you skill points? After spending hours starting at that fucking skill tree i feel like i know exactly where everything is now. Also the tree isnt really that complicated, just about everything you want is nearby your characters starting position and even if you dont know where the specific nodes are located you know what the ability is called so you can type it into the searchbox at the top and highlight every relevant node on the tree. From there its just looking at every path to those nodes and figuring out which one benefits you the most or has the most things you want.

>>15891816

> How your character looks is meaningless

Why have graphics then?

>>15891693

>Just dont try chaos recipe as a way to farm. That shit barely worth it on 1st day

You're wrong, it is really easy to farm. you can pick up the armor and weapons from delves or incursions as you need them. The jewelry will be the limiting factor. If you join a public group that speed farms maps, rings and amulets will drop like crazy, and they typically don't care if you take them. You can have a stash tab full of jewelry in no time and a full unidentified set will grant you two chaos instead of one. I made about 200 chaos and 140 regal last season doing this and it doesn't take much time once you memorize what to pick up. The rate of chaos I make is much higher than clearing maps and hoping for a good drop.

>>15891803

>Can you loot armor that looks like this in game?

Some of it. They give a lot of shit for free, some of it looks allright but mostly its shit.

>What fucking particles? Who the fuck gives a shit about particles

>you're destined to look like shitty middle-class peasant no matter how far you progress

Nope. I personally think that most MTX look like shit compared to regular items but to change look of item you need to pay real money. Not that I care about that, since particles cover everything and because of that people care about them. Not to mention you cant see enemy skills behind them and they reduce fps. People who fucking play the game care about them.

This >>15891816

>gaudy glowing piece of shit

I really dont understand why anyone would use these shitty wings, they look like fucking shit.

>>15891807

>holy fuck its not hard

But you need to know how to do it. If its easy for someone who knows how to do it, it does not mean its easy for everyone. And data is often wrong. For example I dont see any mentions of the fact that you cant leech life from corrupted essence mobs https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Leech While the page is fucking huge and yet incomplete.

>>15891853

>You're wrong, it is really easy to farm

Just because its easy does not meant its good. You are wasting time doing all that shit. Its like eating nothing but the rabbit.

> I made about 200 chaos and 140 regal last season doing this

Its fucking nothing and insane waste of time.

>The rate of chaos I make is much higher than clearing maps and hoping for a good drop.

Pathetic. You will make more if you just speedrun blood aqueduc with syndicate and get shit you need from them. Including much more currency drops. You waste your time picking up shit items, sortin them and in return you get about the same shit as selling shit for alteration orbs. If you dont have a single chaos orb, than yeah, you might do it a couple of times, just to get shit started. But otherwise its waste of time and it kills fun. It turns you into fucking chinese bot, because real people dont do that shit.

>>15891842

I agree now that I have more experience with the game. At first there were so many uniques that it was easy to miss out on a good build that utilized them. Last season I went low life righteous fire, and all the guides I saw were shit so I made my own. Instead of spending a fortune on Doryani's Catalyst, I used Dreadbeak which was cheap and granted just as much damage but also gave me onslaught. It greatly sped up map clearing while also increasing survivability since I could avoid big hits much quicker. Another good combination was Cerberus Limb + a high armor tower shield since it would give flat ES based on your shield's armor. I got 400 ES this way. As far as I know, no one ever thought to use those two.

How good was your loot seed this league poefags?

I got 2 raw exalts as drops within the first 2 days of playing and bought a cospri's malice as my first traded item in the league, before even rings or a t1 life roll chest.

Genuinely enjoying screen exploder remix: turbo gameplay, but it really sucks to have to stop running delves to do shitty maps for more sulphite.

>>15892820

>Genuinely enjoying screen exploder remix: turbo gameplay, but it really sucks to have to stop running delves to do shitty maps for more sulphite.

Purchase scarabs/customize syndicate to max out int on every division and put Cameria into intervention. That way you can run intervention safehouses over and over for scarabs.

>How good was your loot seed this league poefags

Average. Made 200-300c from random stuff and pure currency dropped. I can(should) probably sell some useful shit to get starforge, but I am too greedy to sell the good shit that I will use later. Map drops were terrible through. Was struggling to progress to t5, but after 50% it stabilized somehow, I guess I can start getting good shit now. Wasnt really trying too hard too push anyway. I can buy maps but each purchase takes at least a minute and I am too lazy for that shit. And syndicate do not scale with map level and it provides good rewards anyway so I dont really see incentive to progress. Previous leagues I was pushing for endgame content but now I want to take it easy. I almost made MF character but fuck that. I can afford anything below headhunter anyway and headhunter is too much farming for me. If I get headhunter I will probably stop playing altogether.

>>15892820

Considering my slow and steady pace, having earned about ~1 ex and ~150 chaos is pretty good. I probably can push harder but I honestly want to sit back and enjoy just fucking around with the new mechanics. Especially delve and bestiary, which is the two I missed earlier

Syndicates are gay though, and I hope they never get added to the core game.

Does anybody know what the 3.5.1 patch notes will have? I can't find a link and the website is down.