/v/ - Video Games

>>15819786

>88 percent

Let's get them shut down as being white nationalist nazis.

The chinks can claim whatever they want. They’re still a cancerous entity.

>>15819788

Wew

>Epic Games Store

So what do they even have besides their own games? This sounds less like a Steam alternative and more like Epic Games' own catalog.

I despise Tencent, and while I despise Valve I don't trust them as far as I can throw them. Its better that other alternatives entirely get some market share, not this cancer

>>15819795

this

It'll work well as a containment zone at least.

>>15819786

>they claim not to have any steam powered like DRM

But does it have DRM?

>>15819795

kek

>>15819805

>So what do they even have besides their own games?

What did Steam, Origin, Humble,G2A and GOG even had when they released?

Don't be a fucking idiot

88% is a top tier value and plenty of devs will flock o that like they flocked to UE4.

>>15819786

It's good that there's some more competition, but the white man's store of choice remains to be GOG

>>15819805

I dunno, they probably won't have anything else but Fortine and Unreal games, it's not like UE4 is free to use or anything.

Old news you out of touch blogposter

Unless they allow all content without discrimination, there's no point. All you get is the same thing except with chinese spying added on top.

>>15819809

Origin only has EA published games, dummy. G2A and Humble are special snowflakes, this store is going to be selling games made on UE4.

>>15819818

Watch it be the only legal choice in China within a year.

>>15819786

>Additionally they claim not to have any steam powered like DRM

You don't need any DRM if your games are online-only lootbox-infested pieces of shit.

The question that remains is whether it'll be possible to play together with people on other platforms like Steam and vice-versa.

Also 88% is about 25% more money for developers compared to 70%. Developers using Unreal get about 35% increase.

A pretty decent increase, especially considering the fortnight audience will be installing it.

>>15819823

Steam in China currently has like 30 million users, that wouldn't make any sense.

Good, the more competition for Steam the better. I won't support them but let them fuck each other over.

>>15819786

not really going to upset Steam's monopoly

probably end up in all practical purposes a Chinese only steam

>>15819834

Though G2A was the website that sold stolen keys

>>15819786

companies got around steam fees by selling their keys on 3rd party sites, but i guess this couldn't hurt… besides EVERY FUCKING COMPANY MAKING THEIR OWN LAUNCHER.

Say a multiplayer game was put on this and Steam, would we able to play together?

I hope the Chinese ban all foreign games from their shores, then we won't have to deal with companies trying to sell to all those bug people.

>>15819854

>Say a multiplayer game was put on this and Steam, would we able to play together?

Yes as long as the developers use the same servers

>>15819786

When will they learn?

>>15819854

That depends entirely on the developer.

But will they allow lewd anime tiddies?

>>15819888

Well, tripsman, remember that the chinks own Epic, so the answer is most likely no.

>>15819891

>chinks own Epic

40% share isn't ownership

>>15819898

40% is a pretty damn sizeable chunk, Anon.

>>15819898

Unless the other 60% is actively pushing to keep lewd, then that 40% will make the call.

>>15819908

Didn't deny that, and they're in the Board of Directors of Epic directly influencing what they do.

But that's still not ownership

>>15819898

If there's no single person or entity that owns more than that, they effectively own them.

Good, Steam has too much marketshare. Hopefully this forces them to drop their percentage a notch.

>>15819809

>Humble,G2A

They released by selling Steam keys. In fact that's all G2A still does, while the former just mostly sells Steam keys.

>>15819918

>But that's still not ownership

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Games

Wikipedia states that Tencent owns Epic, with 40% of their shares.

>>15819930

It won't be enough, in my opinion. Steam is still dominant, and SteamQueens won't move anywhere else, unless Gaben finally fucks up once and for all.

>>15819809

>>15819819

G2A is a marketplace that sells steam keys just like HumbleBundle, only that G2A allegedly has keys bought with stolen credit cards, you can't compare it to Steam or GoG.

GoG on the other hand, started out with old games and Witcher 1 back when it was called Good Old Games, but then they brought in indie games and other modern games, and got renamed to GoG. There were some games on GoG that weren't on Steam at that time (from what heard, Swat 4 was an example of this), so it did have something.

Plus old games were cheap to buy a license for, so they quickly filled their catalog with those games.

>>15819923

>If there's no single person or entity that owns more than that

Epic owns the rest

>>15819935

G2A sells everything from software and console codes and Humble has a shitton of DRM free games.

>>15819941

Wikipedia states that Tencent owns 40% of epic

That's not ownership

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>>15819976

wew

>>15819976

Does any of that shit even work?

>>15819964

>That's not ownership

>OWNER: Tencent.

Read, nigger!

>>15819976

GAS THE CHINKS

>>15819985

>Owner (40%)

GET READING COMPREHENSION NIGLET

Evil vs evil. No matter who wins, we lose.

>>15819964

>Epic owns the rest

They have no shareholders besides them and Tencent?

Seems very unlikely to me.

>>15819983

No. The server uses https so the ISP doesn't know what's on the page. Unless China crawls the whole website, which they very well may, they won't see any mention of bad words. They could forge a certificate to have access to it, I'd guess they do that for phones but it isn't so easy without the user cooperating otherwise.

>>15819994

>40% of the assets

>Not being owned by them

They probably outweigh any other stock owner, meaning their bidding is virtually absolute. Kill yourself, bugman.

>Blizzard/Activision already has their own version of Steam

>Ubisoft has their version of Steam

>Electronic Arts has their own version of Steam

>GoG has their own version of Steam

>Bethesda introduced their own versions of Steam

>Consoles have their own version of Steam.

Are there any big companies that still don't have their own version of Steam?

>>15819786

Interesting but having more percentage of lower volume is less than slightly less percentage of higher volume, so unless developers decide to sell there exclusively and successfully migrate their communities, I don't see it overthrowing steam anytime soon. Plus they'll be going to play catch up with Steam in terms of features. Another thing is the rapport Valve has already built with many developers specially the big ones in Japan who won't be jumping ship that easily. But who knows if this is a move by the Chinese I imagine they'll force convince devs and publishers to adopt this platform especially the ones that want to sell in China gotta keep those social credit numbers up.

>Additionally they claim not to have any steam powered like DRM

Sounds like BS to me

100%: this will contain malware at some point through an update

More competition in the market to undermine Steam's monopoly will be a good thing.

>>15819829

China doesn't own Steam, do you know anything about how that shithole operates?

>>15819854

No, because.

>>15820080

I actually chuckled at that one

>>15820083

It would be if it wasn't fucking tencent

>>15820027

>slavs aren't white

Cool C&D, faggot. Kikes like you got rid of on sight on pre-election /pol/.

>>15820106

>>15820123

Valve will have to step up their game with more competitive prices, pro-developer incentives, and maybe make new games of their own again if they wish to protect their market share from the eternal chink and the Fortnite Hordes.

>>15819788

checked

People seem to be ignoring one of the biggest players when it comes to digital marketplaces for gaming, Amazon has their own Lumberyard engine based off of Crytech and doesn't charge royalties for using it. Right now the most well known game that's using it is Star Citizen and they have enough money to get any new trending game on board.

It's still in the process of being integrated with their Twitch streaming service and is slowly being built up, remember that it didn't take them long to go from a nobody to a major television and movie studio. Meanwhile Valve is losing its position with younger audiences, doesn't have a notable game engine anyone is using and their community is being picked apart by Discord who have started selling games. Their brand power is waning quickly.

>>15820022

This isn't just another version of Steam as unlike all those examples they have a proper game engine combined with an asset store that isn't empty. All those other platforms are just digital marketplaces created so they don't have to share their profits on DLC or all the telemetry data they collect.

Another platform nobody except normalfag retards will be using. Great.

>>15819786

I LOVE CHINA

I LOVE XI JINPING

HAIL MAO

What's Tencent's censorship policy on the Epic Games store?

>>15819786

Knowing our timeline they'll easily become the full-on replacement of Steam and we'll have to deal with Chinese antics all the way until WW4 nukes their data centers.

>>15820261

>What's China's censorship policy on the Epic Games store?

Fixed.

>>15820254

I love Beijing Tiananmen,

The sun rises above Tiananmen.

Greatest Leader Chairman Mao,

Leading all of us forward.

>>15820254

>HAIL MAO

HAI LMAO

pls no gulag

>>15820293

Oh, exactly like PlayStation then?

>>15819786

As much as competition is important, i can't support tencent. I'll stick to GOG, if another service like gog comes out (though I doubt it) id support them too.

>>15820341

We probably wont see any jap games on the store. However if they do allow jap games id be surprised.

>>15819809

its probably filled with chinese spyware and has trojans too

>>15819786

it'll get nowhere because nobody is moving from their steam account, steam will remain undefeated for possible decades until a gaming crash occurs

>>15819842

Yes

>>15820158

>competitive prices

Nigger that's all they've ever had and done, we don't need cheaper fucking games, we need better shit from Valve period, the other shit is fine I guess

Fuck Valve though

Yeah, nah. How about that fine print. I know there's some, it always is.

>>15819858

Fear not China is getting there own steam managed by a chinese company and then the chinese gov will block the normal steam on them.

>>15820578

That really is the only winning move to make.

>>15819786

Don't they already have their own game client?

>>15820613

The industry has been dead since 2007.

>>15819788

John Steinberg from Buzzfeed here.

Looks like xenophobic white nationalists are attacking Epic Games with wild conspiracy theories.

Please Support Epic Games.

I hope this will get chinks to fuck off from Steam. The more isolated their online communities get, the better.

>>15820746

Well to be totally clear, I'd pay them directly if they put up a purchasable drm free version, but I kind of like having GOG copies, just because the linux installers work nice.

>>15820578

I find it funny how these companies are making the same mistakes that cable did. Such services can really only support 3-5 big players in the market and if there are more companies involved, they cater to more niche aspects of that market. The old model of netflix worked because of a variety of programming from different companies, while the new one is trying to make new exclusive content with nostalgiabait and usually turn out crap because the other companies want to have exclusive rights and earn a little bit more money on their own service. When everyone is doing it, they galvanize into their own markets because nobody will pay for 3+ separate sites unless they only have exclusive content catered toward that site or they'll have to make hard choices of who to support.

Gaming services might be different because there is not that much in the way exclusivity on online platforms because you can host them on multiple services if they meet certain criteria. The only one with a monthly service is humblebundle if you want a bundle of games a month randomly instead of buying them individually. Gog has the drm free aspect, while steam has the large library of games, even if a lot of it is shovelware. Epic is aiming for more developer support early on by undercutting the cost so developers get more of a share of the profits and removing engine royalties if they use unreal engine. Epic is making a huge gamble that could get them more support early on but would get them in trouble if any rival tries to match or closely match their offerings because they have no other draw than that. Epic could also pull an Amazon later and increase their take from their developers later once they have a stable foot in the game download services.

I think it is a good strategic move but hey need to do more to set themselves apart if they want to last. They at least seem like they have a strategy unlike Discord, which I don't think anyone even remembers they're doing their own service and/or are not using it because steam and gog are good enough.

digital will still be as expensive as physical so I don't care

fucking jews

digital should be at least 50% cheaper

>>15820746

>I've heard that it's difficult for devs to get on GoG unless you're already pretty well known

part of it is that your game has to pass GoG's own QA test, and if it fails they don't want it

That's what happened with the recent underworld game, they had an agreement to sell via GoG but couldn't get their final product past GoG QA, so they weren't allowed to sell via them.

>>15820746

That's not GoG's customer service team, that's their curation team, and they've gotten better about things, overall approving much more games than they used to and increasing every year. Unfortunately though, GoG is notoriously opaque with their curation, yes. That is a problem with them.

Thankfully they're just one alternative among others, in a more ideal market we would have a lot more competitors period and one company choosing not to carry a game (Steam in this case since they're almost monopolistic, or GoG because they're the next biggest competitor) wouldn't be a problem whatsoever.

I would argue that companies should have a full right to decide what products they want to carry until they have a certain amount of power too great to be ignored, because by then they make it impossible for the developer to have financial success by releasing on other platforms due to the platform's sheer power and dominance.

>>15821153

What the fuck?

That seems pretty fucking embarrassing.

>>15819983

Yes. Just use shitcord or LoL and whenever you you copy paste this youll get banned. Immediately.

>>15819829

China has 2,000 million.

They aren't worried about 30 million.

>>15820158

>valve will step up their censorship to keep up with tencent and sony on that all important bugmarket

>>15821362

Just cause it SOUNDS competitive doesn't mean it is. This is only competitive for trying to entice developers, I doubt that the big names are going to pull out of Steam to be on Unreal Store. They'll set up on Unreal store, and make nowhere near the money, and then pull out. And if there's no DRM, they won't even bother setting up on the Unreal Store anyway, because regardless of the impact or lack thereof that piracy has on PC game sales, Developers still expect that DRM is there to at least grant the ILLUSION of protection for their investment of millions of dollars.

>>15821383

I want Karen to suck my dick

>>15819786

>Tencent Store

and just like that its fucked.

>>15819786

>Steam has sat on their asses long enough in 1st place to allow new competition to potentially kick them off for good

Competition is a good thing and at the same time an extremely bad thing because it's fucking tencent making it the worst case scenario. Someone got a hold of the monkey's paw for this one

Wait, Epic Games are basically owned by Tencent? PUBG was made by a Korean studio that has let Tencent made and distribute the mobile version of PUBG?

I don't even give much of a shit about battle royal, but learning all of this just now makes me even more angry about Tencent than I already was.

>>15820341

The Playstation division is in California now controlled by fucking Muricans. What they are doing shouldn't be a surprise. The Japs were really stupid with this, probably thinking this way they can exploit the bigger foreign market better or some dumb shit.

>>15820103

fun fact: infinite warfare on the windows store had it's own servers. it was so dead they had to refund it.

>telling gamers "you don't want to save all this money, because it devalues your collections!"

I liked how an EA honcho said "sales devalue games" - only to later give them away for fucking free to get people to use origin

>>15821199

you mean like exactly what steam is?

>>15821300

bah, forgot to quote properly

>>15821539

It's good for the market tbh.

More competition is good.

As always buy from GOG first and foremost.

>>15820612

They do, but they're adding a store to it.

>>15821539

>you mean like exactly what steam is?

I don't think GoG, D2D, Gamersgate, etc. can distribute or sell games via the Steam client.

>>15821608

they don't because they're not in charge of the "package manager", so to speak.

let's say there is an open api to sell shit: who's in charge of payments? who's in charge of improving the software? who takes care of quality control? which means who is in charge of allowing which games go on the store?

someone has to, and he won't do it for free.

so even if all those companies can agree on a standard, figure out all the bureaucratic and technical shit someone else comes along and says "you know what, I don't like X, I'm gonna do my own shit", and have the version on his store be better/cheaper/whatever.

and that just the business end, don't forget the retards who are already complaining about stuff on steam they would never buy and only specifically look for to get angry about it, this would be even worse.

>GoG, D2D, Gamersgate

isn't d2d dead? and gamersgate just sells keys mostly, it doesn't really matter. plenty of overlap between steam/gog, so it's not like people are forced to use steam for every game. same way origin sells ubisoft games and ubisoft games both come via uplay and steam.

>>15821690

I think what would be needed is essentially 3 APIs:

<A payment API, which would strictly handle financial transactions and secure ID verification, including things other than games or software. Crossplatform.

<A "store" API, which would handle ownership, DRM, accounts/profiles, browsing, interactions/friends/chat, ratings/reviews/recommendations, downloads/uploads, cloud saves, administration, etc.. Crossplatform.

<A package manager API, to handle installation/updates/uninstallation, mods, saves, configuration, and launching. While it would plug into the other two APIs, this would have to be in large part platform-specific, and probably be built into the OS by its developer (MS/Apple/Google/etc).

>let's say there is an open api to sell shit: who's in charge of payments?

This has been a solved problem on the web for over a decade, with sites accepting payment to and from the likes of Paypal, Stripe, or major credit cards.

>who's in charge of improving the software?

There wouldn't, for the most part, be software or even libraries, just a standard. Think of the way IRC/SMTP/POP/IMAP/FTP/BitTorrent work, there's an API, and if your software conforms to that API, it's a fully functional client/server.

>who takes care of quality control? which means who is in charge of allowing which games go on the store?

Each individual "store" be responsible for that. However, much like Linux package managers lets you seamlessly merge together the contents of arbitrary "repos" you subscribe to, you would be able to shop in multiple stores through the exact same client.

>someone else comes along and says "you know what, I don't like X, I'm gonna do my own shit"

They could lobby for the relevant API's standard to be extended in a new version. If it's something the API already encompasses, like some business policy, or the GUI layout in the client, that wouldn't be necessary.

>don't forget the retards who are already complaining about stuff on steam they would never buy and only specifically look for to get angry about it

Different stores could have different standards, like different eMail hosts having different spam filter policies, or different Linux package repos being biased more toward bleeding-edge alpha versions versus enterprise-grade legacy support versions.

If this causes Steam to stop being jews i welcome it.

With Steam i mean Valve

>>15819983

>>15819976

I deleted my screenshots, but I tested it in a mobile game. Google will censor most of it if you dont put spaces and periods between the runes, but it will piss them off. After posting tiannenmen one chink told me "you like them, you follow them, go die duppit" among other things.

>>15821548

It is never good to have yellow apes in any market.

Buying is for retards.

Pirate everyrthing.

>>15827234

Any percent Tencent is a cent too much.

>>15827247

I'd say its about 10 cents actually

>>15820158

Valve seriously needs to improve their steam ui and ui related bugs.

>>15827259

Underrated post.

>>15820241

>Amazon has their own Lumberyard engine based off of Crytech and doesn't charge royalties for using it

Except for the whole "you have to use AWS for your servers" thing.

>>15820910

>I find it funny how these companies are making the same mistakes that cable did. Such services can really only support 3-5 big players in the market and if there are more companies involved, they cater to more niche aspects of that market

The thing is that the only video game niche that could survive as a platform is porn games, everything else would need to be more broader and would end up overlapping quite a bit with other platforms.

>>15821387

spunky daughteru is not for sexual abuse

>>15819786

>wanting to install chink spyware

CHING CHONG

六四天安门事件

1989年天安门广场大屠杀

1989年天安門廣場大屠殺

>>15840256

The more of these I see, the more I feel that "bugmen" is too humanizing for them. It implies that they are at least part human.

>>15840891

I remember when I was naive enough to believe that 'bugmen' was just a meme based on their population numbers. Boy it was nice being innocent.

>>15821300

>I pay money to steam

Posting a Solzhenitsyn quote doesn't justify this level of niggeritude.

>>15820241

>discord

No one is using their gay service, I was in a Discord server for a game and it was flooded with people asking when the game would release on Steam and completely ignoring the fact it was for sale on Discord.

>>15840256

>that escalator webm

Jesus christ.

Epic/Unreal = China

Nope, its cancer all the way, just fucking support GoG instead if you are so desperate for alternatives

>>15848422

The story is the employees at the top were fully aware the thing was broken, but instead of hitting the button and shutting it down they just sorta stood there at the top and half-heartedly told anyone coming up there was a problem.

>>15840256

The last one is depressing because the one chink that actually tried to help someone got mangled the worst

>chinese

If there's no uncensored exclusives then nope.

>>15819786

Is fortnite big enough for them to really do that?

Steam didn't really start taking off for like a year or two after the orange box dropped.

and standards are different now. Killing floor used to be a major part of the steam storefront…

>>15849333

Lets get some perspective

Recent leaks show TF2 has at least 50 million players and it became f2p several years into its life. Fortnite really isn't as big as people think. People play it because it's free

>tencent

No thanks