a9c03c No.15809596
How will Valve ever recover? This must be their worst reviewed game in their entire history.
81c095 No.15809628
The dipshits giving it negative reviews will be easily won over by some empty gesture and change them to positive. Valve will probably give them a free booster pack or whatever the fuck and they'll become loyal pagpigs ever after.
5fb11b No.15809637
Half life VR will probably release and force artifact to disappear from people's minds.
unless shill news network and the rest of the people that "like" artifact push harder to shill it.
a9c03c No.15809642
>>15809628
Possibly. Valve usually have everyone sucking their dick right off the bat though.
>>15809639
True though won't EA or someone just buy (((Steam))) instead?
110cb3 No.15809646
>>15809642
Valve is a private company so unless they sign off on it, no.
a9c03c No.15809650
>>15809646
I meant if they went bust.
c8bcd2 No.15809657
Out of morbid curiosity I checked out the Steam forums for it and it's fucking bizarre.
>Retards calling people criticizing the pay model Valvedrones
>Their logic for this is that anyone who dislikes Artifact only dislikes it because it isn't Half Life 3, therefore they're a Valvedrone
391a9b No.15809658
>>15809596
>How will Valve ever recover?
At this point, they don't even need to make video games anymore, they can easily make tons of cash just by getting a small cut, each time a game is sold on their marketplace.
a9c03c No.15809662
>>15809657
Never underestimate the insanity of the r/pcmasterrace community and their love for Valve. They literally think they saved PC gaming.
110cb3 No.15809667
>>15809658
This is a preemptive move as companies are moving to their own storefronts now. Of course, anyone with a brain will know all this fragmentation will just cause people to not bother with either but let's humor the executives and their $200k business degrees their dad paid for.
5fb11b No.15809671
>>15809662
>>15809657
I'd go as far as to say "gamers" in general. You can pick any major controversy thats ever happened the past 20 years and there were plenty of people on the defense of it. No mans buy became a major meme for the longest time for its quality, yet now it's doing "alright" with semi regular updates and an actual userbase. If it exists, someone will like it enough to defend it.
365698 No.15809676
>>15809596
>beating out uno and card against humanity
>a brain dead luck of the draw and a meme game
a9c03c No.15809682
>>15809671
Valvedrones are a different breed of corporate cocksucker though. Nobody else is so rabid or so blind.
85f60f No.15809690
>>15809682
>Nobody else is so rabid or so blind.
Don't say things that you can't take back.
7df1b6 No.15809692
>>15809650
Valve gets a 30% cut of all sales on their platform. They never have to make another game again (and this is why they so rarely do anymore) and they will never go bust so long as developers continue to use their platform. And given the state of the market, they essentially hold a monopoly on PC gaming at the moment.
f6f676 No.15809694
>>15809682
Blizzardcucks have Valvedrones beat, by far.
5fb11b No.15809695
>>15809682
>Nobody else is so rabid or blind.
Nintendo fans? Bethesda fans?
i can think of many examples of people that are both rabid and blind, more than that even.
a9c03c No.15809703
>>15809692
A man can dream.
>>15809694
Blizzcucks spoke out against the new mobile Diablo game so they're less cucked.
>>15809695
I'll give you Nintendo.
391a9b No.15809715
>>15809662
>They literally think they saved PC gaming.
In a twisted way they kinda did, in that developers were pulling out of PC and into console, because of muh piracy, but then Steam came with the promise of DRM and stopping piracy, so developers didn't abandon PC. At least, this is what I keep reading, but I was too busy pirating games :^) to notice.
f6f676 No.15809720
>>15809703
Valvedrones didn't want Artifact either.
>>15809695
Bethesda fans aren't really rabid in their defence of the company, because they're even more stupid than typical fanboys and don't go beyond simple "I'm hardcore because I play recognise Fallout Boy and know not to take an arrow to the knee!" memery. Bethesda fans are the definition of inoffensive normalfags who consume like mindless sheep, with a very small subsect of modders who will put futa furries into fucking everything.
Nintendo fans are downright embarassing sometimes though.
4426a0 No.15809723
>>15809596
>Hearthstone clone with three boards/lanes
Hahaha
5fb11b No.15809730
>>15809720
you got it right on the money.
I suppose you're totally right though, the more rabid people i've met are "pcsx2 white knights". Types that respond to any pcsx2 criticism with full on damage control and arguing. I've never really had that with bethesdadrones.
110cb3 No.15809731
>>15809715
You'd still be getting PC ports but they would all be busted trash like the Ubisoft ones of DMC3 or RE4.
391a9b No.15809737
>>15809723
You mean Gwent?
4426a0 No.15809750
>>15809737
Reading the reviews, they are either butthurt about Half-life 3 or how Hunt Down The Freeman was allowed, or it's one of these
>Another card game in a very saturated market
>Waiting on the Half-life expansion pack
b1eab0 No.15809752
>>15809731
>but they would all be busted trash
They all are busted trash anon.
4f1379 No.15809787
>>15809596
They'll recover because it's the only real game they've been working on for a good while now, so much so that even Gaben has promoted it, which means that he probably cares about it. So the entirety of Valve's office is probably on overdrive right now cataloging everything and working on the fixes, I bet this game is going to get by weekly or monthly updates. Aside from that the possibility of trading and the steam market alone will maintain this game.
3d960d No.15809823
>>15809731
So exactly like what it is now?
92c473 No.15809977
>>15809787
that's not how valve works, right now you just have enough people to give a shit - including gabe, which might be the reason they finally finished something
afd9ac No.15810012
Looks like the vast majority of complaints, at least those shown, are from illiterate BRs and Russians.
That being said, why would you ever play a freemium card game, let alone one by Valve?
b268fe No.15810027
>>15810012
Artifact isn't freemium.
110cb3 No.15810032
d83f46 No.15810034
>>15810012
It's not freemium.
>have to pay for the game
>have to pay for more cards, can't grind for them
>have to pay to play competitive matchmaking
If it was freemium it wouldn't get shit on so hard.
afd9ac No.15810045
>>15810027
>>15810034
>Buy a game
>Pay for cards said game
Who thought this was a good idea? Just sell it for 60 and make it a grindfest if balance is the concern.
It looks like they said 'hey, we're giving out draft mode 100% free, so it'll be fine', when it was a big faux pas for Hearthstone to make you pay for that shit in the first place. CCG autists want to build their own deck, or at least choose which one they want to play, that's the whole point. Draft is a fun diversion, a 'minigame' even.
There's no situation where you lock content behind a paywall after locking the game behind a paywall and get a good response.
d1af62 No.15810060
>>15809667
>hey heyyy, *BIG PUBLISHER* Minecraft didn't need steam to become a cultural phenomenon, so why should you? You have better programmers, better graphics and better budget
>yfw bethesda fallen for that
92c473 No.15810085
>>15810045
well, gabe has enough money so artifact simply might be the way it is because he wants to, fuck everything else.
5100b3 No.15810103
Valve isn't organisationally capable of producing anything other than a card game. I am surprised they got even this to work. Valve, like many other "game" publishers and "developers", is undergoing a total competency collapse.
d83f46 No.15810128
>>15810045
Valve is trying to milk even more money from whales. This time through Steam Marketplace fees.
Previous Valve games (e.g. Dota 2, Team Fortress 2) had items drop in value to the bare minimum of 3c (=2c trading fee + 1c for seller).
This doesn't earn them lots of money. The revenue is probably neglectable compared to operating costs of the Steam Marketplace.
Of course, Valve games have significantly worse drops in the last few years. They're either untradeable&unmarketable or they are extremely rare.
With Artifact, Valve's goal is to get card prices as high as possible to better extract funds. Everything they've done points to this.
>Cards are exclusively obtained from packs, which can only be obtained by purchasing them or by winning in competitive modes, which cost money to enter.
>Rare cards always have a certain value relative to the pack price as it is the only way to obtain them. No "crafting" specific cards.
>Whilst cards can be used to craft event tickets (which is what you use to enter competitive modes), the ratio is only marginally better than Steam Marketplace. (3c sale vs 5c craft)
>No cards ever enter the economy for free, but the above event ticket crafting guarantees cards do exit the economy.
>Cannot trade, cards can only be marketed. As such, quitting Artifact and selling all your card means that you still have to pay Steam Marketplace fees.
Whales are retarded, so they'll bite. Some of them are so retarded that they're buying up supply to drive up the price on certain rare cards, trying to make a profit. Valve is laughing all the way to the bank on this.
What's even better is the ecelebs pushing this shit. A lot of the Dota 2 esports ecelebs have invested over a thousand hours playing this shit game in beta to get hit with this shit. None of them dare talk shit about Artifact, because they desperately want a return on their investment in learning Artifact.
I don't predict Artifact lasting long though. Whales are still sheep, they want to play the cool game everyone is playing. But Artifact, being pay to pay to play, will never achieve this. Especially with freemium competition like Eternal and Hearthstone.
Sooner or later, Valve's Artifact team will lose steam and shrink in size, abandoned just like every other Valve project.
da3311 No.15810164
They won't release HL3 for fear of negative criticism? Fine, all future releases will get negative criticism.
3eadb1 No.15810813
>>15810164
Then they won't release anything.
3b0caa No.15810864
>>15809596
I always find it hilarious how journalists always rate games the majority of gamers hate really high.
3eadb1 No.15810870
>>15810864
It's almost like they're getting paid to do it or something.
f4212f No.15810898
>>15810164
This kind of shitposting makes me irrationally happy.
e923aa No.15811086
>>15810864
They get paid to do it so normalfags on the fence buy it
It only works on the USA
db6533 No.15811093
>>15810864
Yeah, white genocide and marxist propaganda are so fucking funny.
c93e1d No.15811108
>>15809676
Shills really went full retard on this one. Those 2 aren't even games
c673c9 No.15811126
>>15810864
The get paid in clickbait to be contrarian. Also, they have power over game companies because their bonuses are tied to metacritic scores.
abc420 No.15811240
>>15810864
Its almost like they're in the business of shilling.
b7867a No.15811247
The customers are wrong in this case. It's a very fun, complex, well-designed game. Would give it an 8 or 9. t. someone that has played it.
6f9b3f No.15811252
>>15811093
It's funny when their tactics fail, yes.
b11208 No.15811297
>>15809657
>Valvedrone
I really wish Steambecile would catch on.
9cae03 No.15811345
>>15810164
>expanding a chuckle-worthy meme with filler missing the entire point of the joke
meh
a679d4 No.15815777
>>15809662
But… Valve did save PC gaming.
a679d4 No.15815793
>>15815777
Lucky trips don't lie
Get fucked piratefags
a9c03c No.15815799
>>15811297
Valvedrones like the entire company though games included.
a9c03c No.15815803
>>15815777
>Valve did save PC gaming.
No.
ff76b1 No.15815806
ff76b1 No.15815808
>>15815793
>checking your own trips
we have IDs here, cuckchan
e923aa No.15815809
>>15815793
>Checking your own trips
Pathetic
a679d4 No.15815813
>>15815803
>>15815806
>>15815808
>>15815809
>say a bunch of randoms on nintento board
f3c857 No.15815837
>>15815777
yeah, and spongebob getting a 4th season saved nickolodeon
oh wait
7e9ea8 No.15815840
Valve will recover taking 30% of every game sold on Steam. Gabe isn't going to a soup kitchen this Christmas.
7e9ea8 No.15815842
>>15811247
The customers want videogames not card games for autismos.
e923aa No.15815877
>>15815840
Imagine having one of the best financial positions in the industry that could lead you to do some great games to make hefty profits, make software to assert your market position like a new OS and even fund third party devs outside VR shit, and instead you flip flop around doing nothing while actually losing money by releasing shoddy products and pushing even more micro transactions.
With all the money they have they could have made, Half Life 3 and end it on a cliffhanger to goad retards into sucking their dick for another sequel, funded tons of games for PC made by third parties, make their own OS so Microsoft doesn't threaten them, start developing PC hardware themselves outside of fucking peripherals and even make microtransaction laced games that would probably do better thanks to other options in the market by themslves made for other demographics.
It really is sad to see just how pathetic this company has become.
8126b8 No.15815881
>>15815777
>Valve destroyed PC gaming
FTFY. Steamniggers own nothing.
8a32f5 No.15815936
>>15809637
>Half life VR will probably release
lol
7e9ea8 No.15815944
>>15815877
Yeah if the folks at Valve actually liked videogames they could have done so much with all that money.
a82983 No.15815968
>>15810864
How did you end up here?
b7867a No.15816126
>>15815842
Then they shouldn't buy card games. There's a big market for vidya card games, dude. The game's honestly great, and I think most of the critique are from angry, entitled poorfags that want everything to be free. This is not Hearthstone or Fortnite; it's much better.
b3f62e No.15816133
>>15809596
I keep confusing this with Pozzard's Anthem for some reason.
93b696 No.15816134
>>15815877
They definitely didn't lose money off microtransactions.
e923aa No.15816136
>>15811247
>>15816126
>Pay 2 Play
>Pay 2 Win
>Pay 2 Get Events
<The game is great what are you poor?
e923aa No.15816152
>>15816134
They certainly did with the Steam Controller, Steam OS, Steam Machines and even the Vive that's for sure.
Also got to fucking love that from a saturated market filled with small talent and actual innovative designs they fucking pick walking simulator Campo Santo to acquire.
They're so out of touch it's not funny
365698 No.15816164
>>15816136
This is also Pay 2 Pay.
b7867a No.15816166
>>15816140
>>15816136
>implying that what I said isn't true
I think 90% of the criticism is from people that are angry that the game isn't free. And the rest is coming from people that don't like card games and the large amount of randomness that comes with the genre.
1a8b82 No.15816170
You think valve who single handled ruined games with early acess and all the other microtransaction cancer cares? Lol
93b696 No.15816172
>>15816152
You're correct there
b7867a No.15816177
>>15816136
>pay2win
If you're good at drafting, with something like a 60% winrate, you can get all the cards for free. And the game costs 20 bucks. That's cheap. And it's not pay to win, it's pay to compete.
b42769 No.15816190
>>15816166
I have no problem with card games, but virtual card games are just retarded, and not because of any randomness, but because you're paying for virtual fucking trading cards. Not even real cardboard. They could at least mail you a physical copy of the card or something.
e923aa No.15816197
>>15816166
>>15816177
>Generic card game is good because 3 boards
>P2P plus P2W plus pay for events is good
>RnG is good
>What are you poor?
>Just buy the cards or trade them
No, here's your last reply, go back to the Steam forums and/or reddit.
b7867a No.15816232
>>15816197
>P2W
There's literally nothing wrong with a game having a threshold for players to be able to compete at the highest level. That's the case with every single sport. You people are yelling about a cost of 20 bucks for the game. With that amount, if you have half a brain, you should be able to get every single card. And when you're done with the game, you can sell you inventory for steam credit. Really, you must be a bitter poorfag.
>generic
Not at all.
>RnG is good
Some of it is necessary for card games to be enjoyable. This game certainly has less of it than Hearthstone.
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) b7867a No.15816234
>>15816190
>you're paying for virtual fucking trading cards.
Well, there's a sytem in place to sell them for Steam credit. With MTGO, which I've played tons of, you can sell you cards for tickets with bots and then sell the tickets to companies at a decent rate. It's literally easier to get your money back online than with traditional card games.
e923aa No.15816255
>>15816232
>>P2W
>There's literally nothing wrong
Reported
b7867a No.15816261
>>15816255
Tennis is such a pay to win game. Damn those jews that expect us to pay anything to able to play.
e923aa No.15816274
>>15816261
>Sports is the same as an electronic entertainment product
You're not even trying anymore
bdbf05 No.15816278
>>15816232
>That's the case with every single sport.
Barring the fact that you're calling a CCG a sport, most sports' "threshold" is skill based and not monetarily based. What is the buy-in to be a swimmer? What is the buy-in to be a competitive lifter? You can swim in pools for free and if you really wanted to you could fucking lift heavy rocks to get swole. The fact that you have to buy cards on top of the game and there is no other way is ridiculous.
8e56ca No.15816288
>>15816232
>There's literally nothing wrong with a game having a threshold for players to be able to compete at the highest level.
<That's the case with every single sport.
I'm paying for fucking pixels on a screen with bigger numbers you stupid kike shill. You don't need to spend more than the game's price on other e-sports to play at the highest level as long as you have a keyboard, a mouse and dedication.
Here I'll even give you some examples:
>every fighting game at EVO except for whatever is played on console
>any FPS that's played competitively
>ASSFAGGOTS even though they are gay
b7867a No.15816314
>>15816274
>>15816278
There's a monetery threshold for you to be able to compete at the highest level, like with almost every single game or sport, vidya or otherwise. After you've spent 20 bucks and some time drafting to get all the cards, your opponent will have no advantage over you in terms of card availability, even if they were a fool and spent hundreds. It's asinine to say that this is pay to win.
>What is the buy-in to be a swimmer?
Travelling to events. Time at the swimming pool. As far as I know, that's not free anywhere. Nice-looking swim-wear. Much more expensive than this game. The same goes for you other example. Lots of expense with any competitive endeavor.
>you're calling a CCG a sport
I didn't. I compared it to one.
>>15816288
You don't need to spend more than the game's price on other e-sports to play at the highest level
You don't need to do that with this game, though. See what I've said about drafting. And if a few tens of bucks is out of your price range, you don't have to play, you entitled faggot.
cb0e80 No.15816325
>>15816136
Hearthstone is free though, technically you can also get every card free. While we are talking about card games Yu-gi-oh duel links is also free and even has a bunch of cards that cant be aqcuired with money.
e923aa No.15816334
>>15816325
Virtual card games are trash
108411 No.15816335
>>15816314
>entitled
Seriously, how much does Blizzard pay you? How do I get in on this? I need money.
ea5560 No.15816345
>>15816323
>>15816317
>>15816336
>>15816339
do you HAVE to serve faggots their faults on a silver platter? Now (((they))) have another piece of feedback to adjust and infect this place. Just call him a nigger and leave them oblivious to their faults.
e7f630 No.15816356
>>15816314
I hope you are getting paid for this because wew lad your mental gymnastics are something else
c4282b No.15816381
>>15816261
Paying for a premium quality racket that still meets the sport's standards does not make tennis itself p2w, but if you can buy any sort of advantage or handicap provided by the officials like say, loosening up such standards and allowing you to use a far bigger and stronger racket (or even better, selling the racket itself) or even thinning up your side for the match is effectively p2w, because it's the officials that are selling such advantages THEY control to you.
8e56ca No.15816415
>>15816314
>After you've played for 2000 hours and inevitably spent at least 20 times the cost of the base game on packs after losing one too many times to whales because they had 10 times the amount of cards than you, effectively making you a virtual punching bag, ONLY THEN you'll have an equal playing ground. Well more or less because of the events, you'll need to pay for those too :^)))))))
Right into the oven you go, rabbi heimgoldstein shekelblatt
8091ed No.15816430
>>15816314
Are you for real?
0600f7 No.15816445
Alex garfield should be put to death for creating his turbokike formula of card pack cancer
One could argue it influenced the creation of lootboxes as well
d3a41e No.15816490
>>15815777
Are you going to explain the reasoning for why you think they did?
a1a402 No.15816804
>>15810864
They are paid to market somethign they don't care about, so they don't really represent a valid opinion at all.
8b262d No.15816817
>>15815777
Wasted trips.
>>15815837
I wonder if Nickelodeon would be in a much better state if Spongebob had never existed.
26965b No.15816837
They will just continue as it is probably.
They were likely expecting a huge backlash for the payment model, perhaps less than this, but certainly expected something. And they assumed they could ride out the wave of negative opinion because their game is better than any others in the genre (I didn't play it yet, but knowing the competition, it probably is). And honestly, I would assume that many people will turn around sooner or later. The game is probably less expensive than any of the other card games in the end, unless your really do not value your time.
And perhaps they simply don't feel like they could do like the other games because of lootbox laws coming into action. However by mimicking real world trading card games exactly, they probably feel like they are playing it as safe as possible while still reaping the benefits of some micro transactions.
Wouldn't surprise me if other online card games will follow suit because lootboxes are becoming a liability.
02ea6a No.15816840
>>15816232
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
At least the vols aren't always faggots.
2b3e21 No.15816848
Episode 1 and 2 are trash.
EP1 is low cost filler with no redeeming qualities, like a B tier Quake expansion. EP2 is a rehash of the main campaign with added waifu shit.
It would have been far better to leave HL2 where the main game ended. Boom and back into the freezer.
9ee59e No.15816903
you know you fucked up when your game outjews Wizards of the Coast's MTG Arena by a long shot, and pretty much every other computer card game.
08f105 No.15816921
Just found out you have to pay for this shit, from all the paid bullshit I heard about the game I assumed at least it's base was free, but no. What the fuck happened to Valve?
bcc1e5 No.15816928
4e5094 No.15816930
Can't believe e-celebs will defend this trash, and people keep genuinely asking why you can't trade cards for cards, as if it's not fucking obvious why.
What happened with a having a somewhat consumer friendly model in order to lure everyone in, then kike them on cosmetics that don't affect the gameplay?
Much fewer people would be shitting on Valve if they'd made it F2P, had a ladder system without a paywall and let you earn cards through playing (if you have to pay2play in order to 'earn' cards, you're technically buying them). They'd still be making tons of dosh this way and more cards alongside more players circulating the system means Valve can get their grubby jew hands on even more transaction cuts.
b90a3a No.15816935
Steam defense force is in full swing I see.
What about other sites like resetera and reddit, are they swallowing any of it?
>check'em yourself
I am so tired right now I didn't even read this thread, I just want to have a nice shitshow to read about tomorrow morning with a nice cup of berry tea and smocked ham sandwich
8961eb No.15816980
MAKE HALF LIFE 3 YOU WORTHLESS FAT FUCK!!!!!
11 FUCKING YEARS AND NOT A SINGLE FUCKING WORD YOU GODDAMN FAT FUCKING ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!
e923aa No.15816983
>>15816935
Both are filled with shills and goon paypigs, you do the math.
8e56ca No.15816988
>>15816980
>he doesn't know
601c1d No.15816996
>>15809723
From what I read it lacks basic card game shit too.
>no game history
>no sort of track record
all that sort of shit, no talking to the other players, friends list. All nonexistent.
4e5094 No.15817008
>>15816996
>no talking to the other players
This is current year anon, we can't just let competing players communicate with each other.
Someone will end up with hurt feelings.
6a363c No.15817012
>>15817008
Didnt heartstone only have like 6 emotes to communicate with and even then you had faggots crying about it?
4e5094 No.15817017
>>15817012
Yeah and on a cooldown. They later added a mute button.
aaf7c0 No.15817020
>>15810864
Traps are shit tier.
e923aa No.15817025
>>15816996
>no talking to the other players
Just like DOTA2 anon you silly goose, don't you know?
You can't have voice chat because the community is too toxic, Valve is actually doing you a favor.
6a363c No.15817031
>>15817017
Good lord, how do these people function? I just want to see them go about a regular normal day. Something like a documentary
182ec2 No.15817047
>>15817025
But you can talk to other players in dota 2.
b356a1 No.15817170
>>15809596
>How will Valve ever recover?
By hosting other devs' games on steam and taking a cut from each sale, presumably.
47137c No.15817181
>>15809682
>Nobody else is so rabid or so blind.
Most jap game fanbases in the west tbh. What we call crazy company-worship, to a weeaboo is just normal.
d77b48 No.15817242
idk. the upfront cost kinda sucks bc you are compelled to buy 10 packs in the initial price of the game, but over half of the cards are under $0.06 on the market.
.06 * 60 = $3.60.
The compulsory buy-in is worse than other card games, but building a specific competitive deck out of cheaper cards isn't something you can do in hearthstone.
i'm enjoying it so far, and if anyone really was dedicated to f2p, you could always sell the initial cards they give you and play only phantom draft.
e923aa No.15817282
>>15817242
>i'm enjoying it so far
Considering you type like a literal nigger I'm not surprised in the slightest.
d77b48 No.15817364
>>15817282
lol get fuk't white boi. u jus 2 poor to afford an axe + kanna + drow ranger tricolor deck. smh at u little dic nazis.
:^)
3802d3 No.15817403
>>15816996
They did this with Dota. They wouldn't add match making for the longest time because of toxicity, then they turned around and added it to fucking TF2 to make a competitive game. Fucking retards.
>>15817025
Dota has voice chat. You're thinking of league. Dota never added region lock because of Politically Correct bullshit and it has killed their game.
110cb3 No.15817409
>>15817393
Nice IP hopping.
00e154 No.15817443
>>15815877
For fuck's sake, there's only 4 people working on their 3rd most popular multiplayer game. A game that has had a microtransaction system since 2011, a game where players would willingly spend 60 dollars on a bunch of virtual stamps, or 100 dollars just to tell a game-wide joke.
709263 No.15817455
Sad people liek this shit but won't touch Duelyst
2b3e21 No.15817519
>>15817445
You've been brainwashed by the jews. So called freedom of lying and disinform means actually less freedom of speech, and that's why we are in deep shit now.
If you want a healthy and free society, you have to keep liars out of the door.
98ea1d No.15817524
why would soyny change at all? the industry should never have gotten like this in the first place and the only way to fix it is to kill it off.
197f6f No.15817591
>>15816261
>Tennis is such a pay to win game
you're grasping at straws faggot. dropping more money on a equipment won't increase your likelihood of winning. any decent racket (i.e. not a chink knock-off) is viable; there are no 'meta rackets' that have advantage over other models, and you racket will remain viable until the end of its useful life.
3802d3 No.15817631
>>15816261
You can't make infinite copies of quality Tennis Rackets at 0 cost like you can with video game characters you cuckchan retard.
5338da No.15818143
Who knows maybe this blowing up in their face will give them some nice perspective on the whole eSports eTournament shit, and they'll ease up on their source games?
Who am I kidding, Server browser getting yanked from TF2 CS:GO and DOTA2 tomorrow and the introduction of 420 new crates with new particle effects
5338da No.15818153
>>15809637
They already released SteamVR dumbass.
5338da No.15818160
>>15815881
>Steamniggers own nothing.
Legalistically, you're wrong, but you know, verdict's still yet to be set with the whole abuse of the copyright system and terms of leasing to pretend people don't own things they have purchased.
fefd40 No.15818271
>>15816261
Nigger, I'd beat you at tennis with a fucking ping pong paddle
1215a7 No.15818753
>>15815877
>make software to assert your market position like a new OS
I really hate to be that guy because I hate valve as much as the next guy, but, they are not only heavily contributing to wine, they are also developing their own fork of wine. So at least they're probably still going to fuck it up working on something.
3eadb1 No.15825502
>>15816261
The racket is more like the PC you play on.
7ead5a No.15825515
>>15811108
>>15809676
I'm pretty sure it was a joke
3d960d No.15835101
>>15809676
>Card against Humanity
They're cucks.
2abf42 No.15836114
>>15810164
>grill school
What did he mean by this?
3d960d No.15840175
>>15836114
School of girls?
f4995e No.15840251
>>15840198
You’d be better off trying to play one irl than finding good card game vidya anymore.
a9c03c No.15840709
>>15840198
>I just wanted a good card game.
Tabletop simulator?
89e674 No.15840730
>>15816837
>However by mimicking real world trading card games exactly, they probably feel like they are playing it as safe as possible while still reaping the benefits of some micro transactions.
Here's how I know you know nothing about real world card games. Secondary markets in card games are fucking cancer, period.
df5c94 No.15840745
>>15840198
>>15840730
Ultimate Masters is a fucking ripoff too.
89e674 No.15840820
>>15840745
But anon don't you want to pay $300 for a chance to get your favorite cards with slightly stretched art :^)
df5c94 No.15840837
>>15840820
I did a draft of it today and pulled BFB and a fucking Squee and Wall of Reverence. This cost me 65$. I placed fourth.
LGS had the snapcaster
331daa No.15840973
>buy to play pay to win
What were they thinking?
54c601 No.15848590
>>15809628
This. Corporate cocksuckers never learn.
54c601 No.15848596
>>15840973
>What were they thinking?
5b5f80 No.15848601
I love Nintendo
Nintendo is my friend
3eadb1 No.15853732
a9c03c No.15862527
>>15840198
>a good card game
There's literally no such thing. They're just wargames stripped down to their most addictive and jewish.
fbeaeb No.15862731
>company makes money off selling shit
Recover from what? Even if it fails they'll just keep doing what they were doing.
59e3cd No.15862791
>>15862778
I seriously advise you to stop posting those. They're CP mark took when he was like 15 >>>/sudo/90008
1851ee No.15863188
>>15809596
>How will Valve ever recover?
By making massive amounts of money with Steam, like they always do.
4fff38 No.15863694
They don't have to recover idiot. They make millions a day.
4fff38 No.15863695
>>15863188
This. Waht kind of asshats are posting here anyway.
4513b3 No.15863712
>>15816232
>steam credit
Thank god you were banned
9693c3 No.15863734
dc6efe No.15863750
But the rating is 77 out of 100. Sounds good to me.
4bec13 No.15863782
>>15810164
>when you find a way to shit up a shit meme
Impressive.
fa45c5 No.15863883
>>15816314
>a few tens of bucks
>entitled
Very poor form.
55d3d6 No.15863888
>>15809596
ahh no idea valve made this trash. so that why you nubs are obsessed with a card game.
seriously stop playing stupid shit and kys yourselves
bb6657 No.15864013
>>15809596
>How will Valve ever recover?
Probably just wait a couple days for the massive amount of money they make through their Valve tax to recoup any losses they've made on making a shitty card game.
4c5bcb No.15864079
>>15817445
I dunno, do you literally shill for investing in a game so that you can make returns in Valve funny money? Sounds like propagating a fucking scam to me.
4c5bcb No.15864082
>>15863997
You can only buy booster packs in the game, but you can buy cards on the Steam market.
I know three people that all made back their initial $20 (in credit) by selling cards they got in the intro pack. That's not an endorsement mind you, it just shows how much money this is going to make for Valve.
0b0cd2 No.15864085
>b2p p2w
What were they thinking?
Did they honestly miscalculated just how far they can prey on children and mentally weak?
0b0cd2 No.15864086
>>15864085
Plz ignore the flag.
4c5bcb No.15864093
>>15864085
Not at all, most idiots who buy in will see this as a "money making opportunity" like one buddy I have that normally plays Magic. They fucking forget that the "money" they make from this game never leaves Steam.
3d960d No.15864596
>>15864085
>What were they thinking?
More profit from whales.
090eed No.15864752
>>15815877
>>15815881
>>15815777
>>15809682
Valve improved gaming and Steam continues to make PC gaming the best platform.
The difference is in exclusivity. Steam doesn't force publishers into signing exclusive contracts.
Anyone can publish a game on Steam, but more importantly anyone who puts a game on steam can publish it it anywhere else.
Game of Thrones is one of the most Pirated shows in history. Why? Because nobody wants to pay for HBO GO. What are you going to watch on there? John Oliver Tonight? So instead of putting up with HBO's bullshit, people just pirated the episodes since they weren't available anywhere else.
Like Gabe Newell said, Piracy is a service problem. When you don't want to buy a game on Steam you have other vendors you can go to.
The actual problem facing PC gaming is with all these new stores that make their titles exclusive.
When EA, Blizzard, and now even Bethesda and EPIC make there platforms more exclusive it corners the consumer into only using Origin, Battlenet, and whatever Bethesda's shit is in order to get a specific game.
It's literally console style exclusives but within the PC market. Which is why it's so weird how, even when Epic Games just bought out back to back advert-reels for all their Epic Games Store exclusives at the Game Awards, that everyone is acting like Valve is the villain of PC gaming.
No the villains of PC gaming are EPIC, EA, and Activision for saying that the only legal way to get there games is to buy them through there shitty stores. If it weren't for Steam those companies would be asking fees for using there platforms like how HBO does.
Also yes, Artifact sucks.
090eed No.15864762
>>15863888
Fucking Aussies
090eed No.15864790
>>15840198
>I just wanted a good card game.
Use actual cards then you mong.
If you're a nu-male who can't stand traditional cards then just play munchkins or something.
f81502 No.15864853
Valve could literally release source 2 with some short FPS game as a base along with modding tools on steam for a small price. although now that i think about it people dont really make mod games anymore. i just hope vavle ports Hl2 to source 2 like they ported HL1 to source, even if its just a tech demo of a game, SMOD source 2 would be god tier. valve could port any of their games over to source 2 with some meme VR support and valvedrones would eat it up
f81502 No.15864878
Is he shilling for valve or has he had enough? How can anyone research and broadcast the news on things that never happen do it for so many years?
8fd294 No.15865065
>>15817519
>So called freedom of lying and disinform means actually less freedom of speech
>Somebody on /v/ actually believes this
Go back to reddit so you can moderate your own safespace retard.
dc6efe No.15865105
>>15863769
Whatever. People will just see the 77 and the green square and think wow, the game is surely good.
f81502 No.15865121
>>15865105
Do people actually listen to reviews? I just played the demos of popular games before buying or just bought middleware from the bargin bins
c7d67a No.15870118
>>15809646
private companies shouldn't exist and be forced to comply with pro-nation, pro-trad values.
d1af62 No.15870146
>>15870118
jews should be removed and there should be a transparrent body that verifies if any product or service is beneficial to society by furthering it morally, intellectually or physically.
54c601 No.15872545
>>15870190
Current Valve is nothing like the original Valve anyway.
>>15870186
>/pol/nigger
You aren't welcome here.
76ff4d No.15872605
5681c6 No.15885343
>>15864853
i remmeber smod damn long time ago i feel old
sadly cant get it wroking these days, i heard theres a full paid version or spinoff called tactical
363515 No.15886036
>>15816445
>alex garfield is the pioneer of lootboxes
explain further anon
006220 No.15886106
>>15816274
>>15816381
>>15817591
>>15818271
>>15825502
I was going to say he was alluding to this then he came right out and said it. This faggot is using the exact same argument that MTG's (((Mark Rosewater))) used about the high cost of cards on the secondary market right down to the Tennis equipment analogy.
045b97 No.15890990
FREE GAME GOOD
PAID GAME BAD
bd0598 No.15891075
>>15816232
>>15816261
>Trying to create an analogy of a Pay 2 Pay game with Tennis
I refuse to believe you're this fucking retarded and that this just a genuine attempt at a well intended shitpost
>>15816314
Oh god you're actually being serious.
bd0598 No.15891131
>>15864878
>News
It's not news. Hell it's not even a fucking network. It's a single neckbeard who lives in his mothers basement spouting dumb shit for clicks. Tyler is a lot younger than most of us. He got into Valve's games when he was a kid at the time the Orange Box came out or around that time. He grew up during the major transitions of Valve going from game company to a digital store distributor so he's a lot more optimistic and idiotically naive like most Valvedrones in his age group. At the sametime, he has to constantly make up shit in order to garner clicks even when he most likely knows he's dead wrong.
I can't fucking stand hm most of the time. He's misusing the word "news" because it's primarily just his far out speculation that ends up being absolutely nothing.
0b6956 No.15891141
>>15872605
He is no Maro. Maro is one of the fags who fucked up magic to where it is today. Fuck that smarmy faggot.
bd0598 No.15891150
>>15864853
>that L4D2 Source 2 pic
Wasn't that from 2011 or 2012?
019410 No.15891152
>>15809596
Imagine having 4 billion only to make greedy moves and make shitty games.
bd0598 No.15891161
>>15891152
Valve has a lot more then that. Gabe's worth well over $5 billion and he owns only half of Valve.
0b6956 No.15891178
>>15891161
>tired
>read that as "Gabe's weight well over 5 billion"
19f9b7 No.15891180
>have literally no idea how card games are played
>honestly believe that people WILL play your game for no free packs if your game has shit tier metas like pirate warrior, neutral alice/abyssal blood
>honestly believe people are going to pay to play these fucking shitty metas
the only people who thought this game was going to be anything besides a failure were vale drones, people who have never played a card game in their fucking lives, and valvedrones who have never played a card game in their fucking lives
a5b2ca No.15891196
>>15891180
i have no idea what that pic is trying to convey, but i'm positive it's retarded and not as smart as you think it is
0b6956 No.15891197
>>15891180
That is a great picture.
As for virtual card games that are free, I enjoy Eternal. It's close enough to Magic while being nowhere near as pozzed, and I can play the style I loved when I used to play Magic: U/W Control.
I wish it had a true Counterspell, but at least there's a decent amount of removal.
19f9b7 No.15891205
>>15891196
>cant understand a ridiculously simple picture
>claims its retarded
0b6956 No.15891210
>>15891196
It relates to the fags who netdeck in card games, copying the winners of tournaments and showing no effort of their own to make an original decklist but instead just buying up what won the last time.
e29d2c No.15891219
>>15891180
I don't really play ccg's, are copy cat decks really that viable? I would've thought that innovators would still win more, but I guess the meta can't change that much in a year.
19f9b7 No.15891227
>>15891219
Every card game goes through a ridiculously terrible meta, Hearthstone had pirate warrior, Shadowverse had Neutral Alice/Abyssal Blood, MTG had ravager affinity which was when I quit playing that many years ago after 18 of the 27 entrants for my local MTG tournament were running the deck.
card games are terrible, terrible games
0b6956 No.15891233
>>15891219
Happens all the time, especially when they print a couple of broken cards that end up shifting the entire meta around it via copying an idea or anti- that idea. Some examples from magic are Caw-Blade, Affinity, or back in the day Black Summer. Picture related to Black Summer.
bd0598 No.15891234
>>15891196
It's very easy to understand. In games like card games where a customized deck primarily from someone who won a tournament is copied by the bottomfeeders in their hopes that it will obtain them victory as well and they try to defend this practice with bouts of insecurity assuming they're skilled too.
Same shit is done in Pokemon. People will copy a tournament winners team in hopes of performing just as well as he is without having a god damn clue on how to properly utilize them to their actual potential.
006220 No.15891242
>>15891219
There is some truth to that. In Magic there's the saying "Dredge is only good when no one plays Dredge." That particular archetype has specific hosers for it, but no one will run them in their main deck but rather their side deck. That is if Dredge is popular at the moment and they can expect many opponents to be running it. Therefore if no one is playing Dredge then no one is packing sideboard hate for it and you can expect to do well since your strategy can't be easily disrupted.
Of course what the other anons have to say about it is true as well. Magic has unintentionally printed meta-warping cards that demand the attention of every tryhard. Dredge for example.
e29d2c No.15891244
>>15891227
>>15891233
Personally I've never gotten the appeal and this sounds fucking horrible. Why the fuck do people keep paying for this shit.
a451c5 No.15891245
>>15891219
Most people can't build decks for shit and just resort to copying whatever wins without knowing how that deck works or why the person included his tech cards.
At the highest level, most decks will still look alike only differentiated by the people's personal choices to combat what meta they are expecting in the tourney they're attending.
031ef7 No.15891259
>>15810864
Why the fuck did they have to give astolfo a penis
006220 No.15891263
>>15891244
Those metas are years and years apart. Magic has been aiming to be more tame in recent years, afraid of repeating those mistakes. It's actually made lose quite a bit of interest seeing the same milquetoast cards set after set with a new paint while the interesting ones are off by a bit of mana or phrasing.
0b6956 No.15891287
>>15891242
>unintentionally
Not all the time is it unintentional, like Jace the Wallet Sculptor.
>>15891244
It used to be fun, showing your skill against others. Now all I play is EDH (a casual multiplayer format, no tournaments or leagues) and hope WotC kills itself so I don't have to suffer watching them keep raping it. Pictures and their file names related.
c9e6dc No.15891289
>>15816232
nice freedom of speech you got here pal
006220 No.15891304
>>15891287
You're right, his circumstances are suspicious. They claim to play test things all the time, but failed to notice an interaction between him and lands printed in the same set. Lands that were already well-known for the advantages they provide.
I have to wonder how much of that (((diversity))) in those pictures are actually that well thought out. When Alesha released it seemed pretty normal, but "lol come to our websight where we detail >her struggle to be female in a society that absolutely doesn't give a shit". I don't know about the gay kings.jpg, but they seem like they could easily just be bros if the Creative team didn't try to spin it. By far the most egregious example is that abomination in the center.
006220 No.15891305
>>15891304
>websight
I've been doing this lately and I don't know why.
9487fd No.15891320
>>15891304
Look at the light skinned one playing with the nig's hair. They gay
f0af58 No.15891323
>>15891131
I'd still rather watch him than CNN.
0b6956 No.15891324
>>15891304
JtMS was specifically designed as an answer to Jund. They pushed the power of that card in response to how that archetype was dominating standard, but, they went too far. Then Caw-Blade happened and they let that go on until 3 months before the problem cards rotated out.
As for the Gay Kings, there was another card printed before the kings themselves (you can see the statues in the background). Also, that guy is clearly caressing the other under his hair. It's obvious even on the smaller art.
>They were lovers
>Gay Nigger Kang in Fantasy Greece
I liked Alesha's card design, mechanically, but the flavor ruined it and I never wanted to play it. Later, there was an annoying player at my LGS who kept on bringing up that she was a mtf tranny (HOW BRAVE!) and it was so fucking annoying.
0fae4c No.15891329
>>15891324
>Whose deaths were celebrated
Lol
>Two feuding rulers
>Being so much of a faggot you doom not one but two kingdoms
>Ackshually they were peaceful! :^)
How the fuck does that work, im glad I stopped giving them money years ago but watching it all the way from Mirage to this bullshit still hurts.
006220 No.15891330
>>15891324
>>15891320
Gross, didn't notice the hand in the hair. The hand coming up from underneath the cape makes me think it was added after the fact.
34cec9 No.15891338
What virtual card games give you access to every card from the get go?
87120b No.15891344
>>15891329
>>15891324
I like the implication is that the homos were so horrible, people celebrated their passing longer than they remembered the specifics.
0b6956 No.15891352
>>15891329
Some real pain is
>Love the fuck out of Ravinca
>FUCK YES RETURN TO RAVINC—what the fuck why the fuck is Jace the Living Guildpact why the FUCK is the story ruining so much fun lore from Ravinca 1.0
>Latest block now Ravinca 3.0: Diversity is our Strength.
The guilds have lost so much of their identities and are much more shallow versions of themselves, and they keep on shoving more and more androgynous women and niggers into everything, not just these most recent sets
>>15891344
I chuckled.
b356a1 No.15891358
>>15891338
Cockatrice does, and it allows custom cards.
It's a good way to play kitchen table MtG if you rope in a couple friends.
0b6956 No.15891364
>>15891358
It's a good way to play EDH as long as everyone has a decent grasp of the rules. I do it kitchen table, but used to play EDH on Cockatrice.
657329 No.15891374
>>15816930
That faggot has always defended valve no matter what. 2GD was the only decent personality in Dota comp scene
657329 No.15891377
>>15840198
Play Texas Hold em you giant fag
1a2b69 No.15891414
>>15891377
You can play both you dumb fucking nigger.
3f4c57 No.15891434
>>15891259
Because only fags like Fate.
79f0b2 No.15891471
>>15809628
>The dipshits giving it negative reviews will be easily won over by some empty gesture and change them to positive.
That rarely happens, when a game releases with this much bad reception that means they were already burned from a previous company fuck up or this game specifically really fucked up. Neither case leads to a quick resolution.
fb1220 No.15891483
>>15862527
Wargaming can be pretty damn jewish anon
6b307a No.15891586
>ever giving a fuck about metacritic reviews
When will this meme fucking end? I doubt even 80% of them have ever played the game. Guess what, any idiot can place a review of something on Metacritic, no matter if they have actually played it or not. That means that any game that has a negative public image will always get shit scores, making the entire thing pointless. Obviously Artifact is a garbage pay to win game, but if you want a more realistic look as to what people think of it with the confirmation that they have to have actually played it, look at Steam reviews.
0943b2 No.15900843
>>15891352
Planeswalkers shitted everything up. From a mechanics point of view they are actually a really cool card type. From a flavor point of view they ruined everything. Now instead of a focus on the setting of the plane and leaving specific adventures to you the player, all the stories are focused on a bunch of shitty main characters that no one gives a fuck about.
f81502 No.15900859
>caring about valve
is this 2004?
4b0cea No.15900903
>>15900859
You see anon growth ends at the age of 25.Games that influenced you prior to 25 stay with you forever.
For some people development ended there, they still live like hollow husks living mundane lives with fond memories of some ancient things.
Thus many who grew on valve games are now stuck, they haven't advanced past 2004 and the casual market is so bad they have nothing else to cling to.
f81502 No.15900925
>>15900903
i doubt most valve fags here or anywhere play anything but CSGO ASSFAGGOTS or TF2. i wish they would play sourcemods again
e923aa No.15900956
>>15900925
>i wish they would play sourcemods again
Still playing GoldSrc and Sourcemods here faggot.
Been playing C&C Generals mods and having fun as well.
Most modern games are absolute garbage and Valve as gone full retarded kike and they'll pay the price.
fc11c0 No.15906087
>How will Valve ever recover?
Christmas sale lol.