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dd4c90  No.15808231

The Bethesda I'm talking about is BGS. Not Softworks.

I know Bethesda's formula is hated here, but as an absolute lover of that formula, it's depressing to think that their games are one of a kind, and now they're already coming close to an end. 76 makes me realize how Jew-like their publisher is and how intoxicated the community is right now. They're going down, Zenimax will kill BGS like how EA and Ubisoft killed their development studios. Todd's going to end up like Christopher Weaver and Julian LeFay, disassociating himself from game development completely.

I love everything Bethesda made, from the procedurally generated vastness of Daggerfall, the senseless alchemy abuse of Morrowind, to junk collecting and settlement building of Fallout 4. I don't see them as RPG in a traditional sense, I see them as their own kind of games. Nobody makes it like they do, not even New Vegas or Kingdom Come managed to capture their feeling. I literally can't find much enjoyment in playing any other open world, adventure, or RPG game. When Bethesda Game Studios dies, any shred of my hope in the future of video games will die with it.

Just spilling my heart's content. If you did read this, thanks for reading. Over and out.

ab5f34  No.15808236

Fallout 4's weapon customization may be fucking stupid but I like it, I just wish it was more autistic and tacticool


483005  No.15808237

File: 71677949be11fe7⋯.jpg (119.84 KB, 1136x639, 16:9, DtXReCjVsAAcdXt.jpg large.jpg)

Good fucking riddance.


917e90  No.15808244

Get a lift, son, can't respect anyone who endears himself repeatedly in shit controls


103751  No.15808248

>>15808236

it's genuinely a good idea, but it's just mediocre in execution. Just like the rest of what bethesda does.


eac3c5  No.15808255

>>15808248

Ultimately that's the entire point of this thread. Bethesda is the best at what they do but they're really bad at it. They just don't have competition. If they go then nothing will fill the vaccuum.


0b2185  No.15808275

>>15808231

There is always a bigger greedier jew behind the curtain calling the shots. This is why its best not to become a fanboy of these games OP. You will only make yourself sad whenever that big fat jew decides to cut corners to maximize profits.


c058c7  No.15808282

>>15808255

>Bethesda is the best at what they do

<Sabotaged the development of New Vegas because Obsidian was making a better Fallout game than they ever could


579780  No.15808284

>>15808282

Substantiate your claims.

t. Todd


4d8c01  No.15808287

Wow. Bethesda is the only ones who make shitty open world level scaled rpgs that have no challenge. Who would have guessed.

The faster they die the better.


eac3c5  No.15808290

>>15808282

Yeah, another team was doing their job and it was turning out much better. Case and point.

I honestly don't know why TES clones don't exist. There must be a market for them.


b43a1a  No.15808296

>>15808290

With the amount of people who bought and rebought skyrim, I dont think so.


dd4c90  No.15808299

>>15808237

>rushed game forced by zenimax and developed by a no-name non-BGS studio without any experience with creation engine

That said, I still kind of enjoyed it nonetheless.

>>15808255

This. I'm not defending their bugs and poor optimization, but their games fill my very specific taste in video games.

>>15808282

Even if the rumors were true, it still wasn't BGS' fault and I still don't like New Vegas. The atmosphere was bland, the exploration felt boring, the junk collecting sucked, and I can never feel overpowered whatsoever.


09bd9c  No.15808302

Go to bed Todd


4d8c01  No.15808303

>>15808290

I could load up unity right now and stumble my way through a better bethesda-like than these chucklecucks ever could. All i have to do to save on processing power and space is to STOP LOADING YOUR GAME UP WITH LITERAL TRASH SO YOU HAVE TO PICK THROUGH EVERYTHING. The 1-5 value items are the thing that bothered me the most. Who the fuck cares if there are toasters or brooms in a chest?


198c2d  No.15808308

>>15808231

Wishful fucking thinking, the main studio who did most of the work Bethesda Game Studios Austin aka BattleCry Studios is going into the shitter. So this blogpost is fucking unneeded.


ce94e1  No.15808313

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>>15808236

I wish there was a game development studio composed of purely autistic employees with substantial funding so that they would have the absurd in-depth detail that I desire from a game. Bethesda gets close, but they aren't autistic enough.


69c42b  No.15808314

File: 111fc2a0cbdd107⋯.gif (39.9 KB, 255x188, 255:188, 1425524765318.gif)

>>15808255

First off, the problem is not the lack of competition, it's the lack of ethical journalistic oversight to hold them accountable for their horseshit and their unwillingness to listen to their customers to improve properly upon their mistakes. There's PLENTY of competition out there, but none of it gets attention because nobody is willing to push through the immense wall of money Bethesda puts up to create a literal cult of media obsession around their shitty games. Whether or not any of that competition is actually competent enough to do the fucking job is another question entirely, but I hold faith that if a company gets enough attention without the help of a publisher, they're doing something right.

Second, if Bethesda does piss off enough customers to send themselves into a downward spiral of mediocrity, the first thing that's going to happen, just like with any massive corporation that experiences any large enough snafu that threatens their profits, is their CEO getting the axe. The CEO's job is to not run the company into the fucking ground, and it's his fault if the company makes so many incompetent decisions in a row that customers refuse to give Bethesda their money; remember, executives and shareholders only care about numbers on paper, profits and losses. With the advent of microtransactions, The number of units sold is a force multiplier for the number of microtransactions that whales will buy, so in reality, they only need enough sales to buoy marketing and development, and they don't give a flying fuck how many people they piss off in the process.

If Bethesda DOES go under, somehow, somebody will be there to fill in the gap. Some developers might be too scared to try and jump into the genre, given how willing Bethesda has been to jump into litigation: Notch getting a C&D notice from Bethesda because he was making a game named "Scrolls". If they go under, the market will likely explode with copycats and clones.


eac3c5  No.15808315

>>15808303

>the 1-5 value items are the thing that bothered me the most. Who the fuck cares if there are toasters or brooms in a chest?

The mundane details and freedom are a part of the bethesda feeling. Only in a Bethesda game can you buy every wheel of cheese in stock, climb to the top of the one and only climbable mountain and drop exactly thirty seven of them down and watch them roll downard along with your frame rate.


4d8c01  No.15808324

>>15808315

Who the fuck does that? Why? I want to play an ultima underworld clone, not be entertained by jingling-keys-in-front-of-a-baby's-face-level bullshit.


69c42b  No.15808339

File: 14780468143fab2⋯.png (799.92 KB, 680x950, 68:95, skrim thinking.png)

>>15808315

>go to the shopkeeper

>he greets me with his usual plastic smile and empty, soulless stare

>buy 37 cheese wheels and stuff them in my backpack

>he does not seem to react at all to the strange purchase

<See that mountain? You can climb it.

>get on my spiderhorse

>start climbing the steep mountainside on my trusty steed with a backpack full of cheese wheels

>finally get to the top

>take a deep breath of brisk, clean air

>dump my backpack out and watch gravity take hold of the 37 cheese wheels

>the world begins to stutter and slow down around me as madness slowly begins to take me


988e6d  No.15808349

They better hurry up, then.


dd4c90  No.15808352

>>15808308

I think even battlecry is innocent in this case, it's zenimax's fault for giving them such a difficult task for a cookie cutter game concept.

>>15808314

>There's PLENTY of competition out there

Such as? Legitimately curious because no matter where I look I can't find it.

>>15808324

For me, it gives a sense of realism, it makes the world feel more alive to have all it's items interactible. I always use a mod that allows me to wield any junk item as a weapon. Fallout 4's crafting and settlement building made a good use of it. NV tried too with old world blues but the items required were too specific. Oblivion's engine is capable of handling at least up to 20,000 physic objects at once so they probably don't see a reason not to do it.


69c42b  No.15808355

>>15808352

The Witcher, Mount and Blade, Breath of the Wild, Kingdom Come, Kindgoms of Amalur, Neverwinter… I'm not saying any of those are genuinely good or bad, but they are competitors to Bethesda's typical formula.


a005b8  No.15808366

>>15808231

Kirkbride just needs to make his own studio


101daf  No.15808367

>>15808355

Out of those only Mount and Blade really fits the feeling, with a very different gameplay, setting and goals. Kingdom Come, Amalur and the Witcher are all story-driven games with minor decision-making.

Neverwinter is forsaken to the world of MMOs.

The "Bethesda formula" is a player-created character with it's own backstory defined by the player's action with a world made to react to the PC's decisions and characteristics in order to generate an unique story. A single quest in Skyrim, for example, even though it is generally static, it can have countless different experiences attached to it depending on the context in which it is played in.


dd4c90  No.15808394

>>15808355

These narrative driven games, third person hack and slash games, and MMO-like games are nothing like Bethesda's formula. If you think any open world RPG can be like Bethesda's, I think you're wrong. BoTW did open world correctly, but there's no stat manipulating and sandbox abusing joy I find in every Bethesda game. The town and indoor explorations sucked too. Kingdom Come is too unnecessarily realistic, narrative driven, and overall just dull in it's world design.

>>15808367

Even M&B is more like an MMO action-strategy troop commanding game. I don't like it. There is no personalized feel of playing as an lone individual I get from Bethesda games. There's little customization and manipulation involved in it's gameplay.


bcaaf5  No.15808409

>>15808366

Kirkbride isn't stable enough to run a studio, he can barely function as part of writing team. Best you could do is give him some alcohol and heroin and hope he eventually produces something within a vague deadline that you can then hand to your actual writing staff to translate into a comprehensible plot.


101daf  No.15808410

>>15808394

I do like some of these other games very much, but i do recognize that they are very different in feeling to the Bethesda games.

i do think that New Vegas is not only a worthy addition to the series, but straight up better than FO3

However, as Bethesda finds itself now, it's probably better if it were to die already. It is incredibly unlikely that they will ever go back to making something akin to their classical games, moving on to more narrative-driven experiences like FO4.


22ce48  No.15808411

>>15808299

If you don't like new vegas you don't like 3D fallout


917e90  No.15808412

>>15808396

Just pile them up to make an integral game and ask AGDG who wants to make money


521682  No.15808413

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>>15808313

The amount of hours I've spent writing/typing vidya design documents is unfuckingcountable. The sheer amount of autism is ridiculous, but I lack the programming skills to ever bring any of it to light in any satisfactory manner.

>tfw I will never be the head of a design team with programmers at my disposal who I'd treat like wizard gods


917e90  No.15808418

>>15808413

Seeing how you deleted your previous post for a silly typo makes me afraid how would you treat the coders


521682  No.15808419

>>15808412

Asking people to work for free is scummy, even if you promise them a % of the profits and have a contract for such. I would, at the VERY LEAST, intend to pay people minimum wage for their time regardless. Obviously, though, I also lack the funds for that. Otherwise I'd absolutely be doing that right now.

sorry, deleted my post earlier because I'm retarded and typed "documents" twice


521682  No.15808430

>>15808418

I don't expect anyone to ever be as autistic as me when it comes to details, to be honest. So, I'd probably just be glad any coder would even bother trying to make any of my ideas at all.


dd4c90  No.15808435

>>15808410

NV is only a bit better than FO3 gameplay wise, but FO3 is my least favorite Bethesda game and NV still doesn't click on me. Fallout 4 is a much better Bethesda game than either 3 or NV. It feels narrative driven, but you can ignore most of the story altogether and just play it like a sandbox game from the get go.

>>15808411

I don't care about franchise labels.

>>15808413

I have the necessary programming skills and the tools to do it, but it's still a huge and scary task to develop a whole game.


4d8c01  No.15808441

>>15808367

>can have countless different experiences attached to it.

You could say the same about any fucking game with quests you retard. Go play something like the bard's tale or might and magic. Its the same goddamn thing but you dont wanna kill yourself when playing it.

In fact you could say the same about literally any video game ever.


521682  No.15808455

>>15808435

> it's still a huge and scary task to develop a whole game.

To be more specific, it just takes a lot of fucking time. A lot of time doing shit that's completely boring but pays off in the long run when it turns into an actual game.


fbd642  No.15808458

>>15808282

>Sabotaged

^this, just like they sabotaged the development of kotor II back in '03


917e90  No.15808471

>>15808419

>Asking people to work for free is scummy

I understand, but it's not like you are going to get money and it's also not like they aren't going to add to your idea creatively, effectively also being their own creation.

Or did you mean a bunch of coders doing your exact idea, like a director? If that's the case then you would need to pay them in any path, which is what you actually said i agree.

>>15808430

And also posting about the same to me in two different posts, what the hell.

You will need serious money or sell a very good idea to, quite shamefully, ask for fundraising bux. Or do your own stuff from a very small idea.


dd4c90  No.15808482

>>15808441

For me, the quests in Bethesda's games are a secondary aspect of the game. I play the quest only when I feel like wanting to take a rest from all the sandbox exploration outside and testing my character's abilities.


521682  No.15808487

>>15808471

>Or did you mean a bunch of coders doing your exact idea, like a director?

That one, yeah.


86ad71  No.15808490

>>15808248

>it's genuinely a good idea, but it's just mediocre in execution. Just like the rest of what bethesda does.

/thread.


523eef  No.15808497

>>15808482

Are you saying Bethesda's games work best as first person murderhobo simulators?


917e90  No.15808509

>>15808487

Yeah, you need tons of monies

I had the same problem but i somewhat mentally fixed it, hard to let go but it happens, no problem sharing an idea and letting someone meddle with it as long as he is in the same conceptual channel as me. That is unless you have the whole idea fixed up.

If that's the case you just need a good presentation and rev those kikestarter funds, if not i don't know what to say because i'm not in the mood to insult anybody


e16f34  No.15808513

File: d2f76ccfd60198e⋯.jpg (9.11 KB, 189x292, 189:292, d2f76ccfd60198e7e6d04d1492….jpg)

I don't know if this is Todd or a person with Stockholm syndrome


8ee6b0  No.15808518

>install the game

>game crashes

>start the game

>game crashes

>use a weapon

>game crashes

>talk to a NPC

>game crashes

>take a quest

>game crashes

>enter a dungeon

>game crashes

>complete a quest

>game crashes

>level up

>game crashes

>buy something

>game crashes

>save the game

>game crashes

>quit the game

>game crashes

>install a mod

>game crashes

>uninstall the game

>game crashes

Now which bethesda game am I talking about?


521682  No.15808527

>>15808509

>That is unless you have the whole idea fixed up.

You underestimate my autism. I'm very particular and essentially want every aspect of a game's design to be cohesive and work with relation to other aspects of the game, rather than being a mish-mash of various cool-sounding ideas. Rather than just

>WHAT IF THERE WAS A GAME WITH ROBOTS WHO FIGHT NAZI ZOMBIES BUT THEY'RE IN THE EARTH'S CORE

I basically write up massive multi-folder, branching design documents over the course of several years.

I could probably do a kikestarter, but I'm also a faggot who has principles and morals and doesn't want to sell people on a product that hasn't even been made yet.


dd4c90  No.15808546

>>15808497

I don't know, they are what they are.

>>15808518

Their only games that ctd constantly are Fallout 3 and NV. The rest are quite stable.


917e90  No.15808566

>>15808527

>You underestimate my autism

I don't, i have been close to that kind of love to detail, but a man has to eat and pay his bills, cannot do it anymore. But if i knew how to be better organized and had more skills, which i think plenty of people are superior to me in these aspects by a long shot, i could've done grand stuff, which many have done i believe.

>doesn't want to sell people on a product that hasn't even been made yet

Safe to say we all do around these parts, at least those who have been here for more than 2 years. But being honest here, while i don't know your social circle and how they could support you, one needs a lot of charisma and/or money to get these kinds of ideas to materialize, and for that reason sometimes you need extreme and questionable methods to fulfill them.

Kikestarter is not an evil tool by itself, but it is used by a lot of evil and misguided entities. You are not one of those, isn't?


e6ec35  No.15808584

>>15808231

The worst part of your post is not your garbage taste, it's the fact that you said "over and out". Here, let me teach you some shit.

You say "over" when you finish your statement and are awaiting a response from the other party. "Out" is for telling the other party that you are done with the conversation and are switching to a different radio channel. If you say "Over and out" you'll get kicked off the bridge for sounding like a complete fucking retard, those words have two completely different meanings.


86e1f8  No.15808757

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File: e07411aeb0a274b⋯.jpg (287.44 KB, 800x1140, 40:57, 168704-risen-windows-front….jpg)

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>>15808231

>>15808355

There's always the good 'ol kraut yurojank equivalent of Bethesda, Piranha Bytes, if you want to scratch your pseudo-RPG hiking sim itch.


0d7fa3  No.15808762

>>15808231

Todd, I know its you, just become a politician, you'd be great at that


ade24c  No.15808813

File: 8237c46ce95c72a⋯.gif (37.99 KB, 650x705, 130:141, 8237c46ce95c72afce448f2d84….gif)

imagine all the games that could be made if coding wasn't so hard to figure out.


8bbe9b  No.15808843

>>15808757

>Elex

Is Space Gothic any good?


08681e  No.15809229

>>15808843

It's mediocre.


3a5e8a  No.15809256

>>15808435

FO3 is better than FO4 and NV is miles better than both.


85af58  No.15809277

>>15808413

Share it with me, go-I mean, anon-kun, I will take "inspiration"


4aef9f  No.15809361

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>>15808299

>>15808435

Why has nobody called out this extremely obvious employed shill/corporate dicksucker fanboy?

Fallout 4 being the best Bethesda game?

Fallout 4 being fucking narrative driven?

The junk exploration and junk collection in Fallout 4 somehow being not boring?

Somehow not being able to feel powerful in New Vegas, in contrast to BGS games which have fucking level scaling (designed to stop you feeling overpowered)?

This retard thinks he can just post whatever dumb shit he feels like on this board and get away with not being called a lobotomised fucking cock gobbler. This whole fucking thread is cancer from the beginning, really.

>Wow guys isn't Bethesda so great? Their games are truly unique and visionary and nobody can compete with them ever!

Go and fuck yourselves. Leave and go back to taking corporate dick in your ass and churning out some more mods for your janky pieces of shit games on the Clunky Engine.


b9f696  No.15809362

>>15808490

Why did you quote the whole post, are you retarded?


3749d5  No.15809372

>>15808237

Oh God… when i looked at that pic my first thought was just that what kind of mods i should download to fix that ugly shit…. Todd what have you done with me!!!

Better Blood, Remove Green Filter, Fix HUD, HD textures, Remove Quest markers, Uninstall.exe


949a27  No.15809377

>>15808236

Tarkov does it better and, despite the shitfest that it is, is still leagues ahead of fucking FO4.


3a5e8a  No.15809385

>>15809372

>Uninstall.exe

Only one you need.


986788  No.15809387

>>15808231

>When Bethesda Game Studios dies, any shred of my hope in the future of video games will die with it.

Good. Eat shit.


8256db  No.15809389

BGS has never made a decent game in its entire history.


ba2ebd  No.15809911

>>15808290

People like the TES/Fallout games for their lore and atmosphere. And there's a lot of it, it would be hard to create something else that fills that void from scratch.


5a6419  No.15809917

>>15809911

You're saying that about the developer who have thrown the lore and atmosphere of TES and Fallout out the window multiple times over.


fccbe0  No.15809937

>>15809256

The only thing FO3 is better than is the hack and slash game on PS2.


aa0da4  No.15809940

>>15808231

>he enjoyed fallout 4

>with a voiced and preset character

End yourself.


aa0da4  No.15809945

>>15808355

>Witcher, Breath fo the Wild

>competitors to first person, make your own character, create your own narrative, and explore an immersive world games

I don't understand how someone can be this stupid.


aa0da4  No.15809957

>>15809917

It's not about consistency from game to game, it's about a believable world that allows for role playing. Oblivion may not add up with Morrowind, but both games have plenty of space for creating your own narrative within the game world. Unfortunately Skyrim and Fallout 4 have been clamping down on such freedom with shit like being the Dragonborn who always has shouts and everyone knows who you are, and even having a voiced player character who can only either be an ex-military zogbot faggot, or some dyke lawyer.


2e560c  No.15809958

>>15808813

But then we would lose Todd memes


98eb0e  No.15809961

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>>15808231

>Zenimax can make Bethesda disappear overnight

Good!

>but as an absolute lover of that formula


2a1743  No.15809969

>>15809940

>the protagonist can talk

>oh no what a shit game

Do you have autism?


2e560c  No.15809976

>>15809911

Honestly, its very reminescant of the Halo franchise; ie the only real reason people “enjoy” the game isn’t because of the gameplay, but because of how deep the story of the universe goes. You have to remember though, /v/ only cares about the gameplay aspect. And in that regard, both series are kinda meh. But man, the lore is good af.


d2daf7  No.15809978

Daggerfall and Morrowind already exist so it's best that Bethesda stop existing immediately and permanently.


aa0da4  No.15809993

>>15809969

A voiced player character makes it so the PC is no longer a blank canvas for you to paint your own narrative onto. In an open world RPG which is about "creating your own stories" this is a problem. Bethesda's games were never the Witcher or Mass Effect, they are a very different beast. And lets be honest, Bethesda's writers can't handle shaping the protagonist for you, they're fucking abysmal at that. Bethesda games should always allow the player the ability to shape their character, and when they added voice, they took a massive shit on that concept.


d32cac  No.15809994

>>15809978

I haven't played a Bethesda game since Fallout 3 and Wet. Isn't the whole point of Bethesda games that they come out like trash but the community fixes them through mods?


03178b  No.15809999

File: 4b32203456b0b59⋯.jpg (67.98 KB, 300x275, 12:11, Mami.jpg)

Can't wait to see them burn. Ever since my childhood it has been my dream to witness the technological advancement of videogames and I fantasized about how detailed, awesome and realistic videogames would be to make me feel like I'm having a real adventure.

And when Skyrim got released I thought that the time has finally come. But instead of getting a really wellmade game we got a poorly scripted turd with some polished graphics. And when I realized that developers don't have to strive to improve anymore I gave up on my childhood dream. Now all I care about is to see it all burn down to the ground. I want these assholes who made soulless videogames fall all the way to the ground and struggle in despair.


d32cac  No.15810015

>>15809999

You're saying you want a video game of that is almost indistinguishable from your life? Isn't that basically impossible today's current technology? I mean you were actually thinking on Xbox 360 game somehow have Advanced AI the likes of which we have never seen before? When the 360 launch that was actually one of the big criticisms of the hardware design, that it only supported in order execution making great AI an impossibility for the system.


03178b  No.15810031

>>15810015

>You're saying you want a video game of that is almost indistinguishable from your life?

No, what I want is a videogame which is realistic and has an insane attention to detail within its own setting. Basicly I want the principles of the old Thief games, but with improved technology. Why can a game that got released like 20 years ago make me feel more immersed than the shit that gets released nowadays?


d32cac  No.15810043

>>15810031

Are you sure you're not just seeing see through rose-tinted glasses? Isn't Thief also level based? One of the limitations of bethesda's engine is that the entire world has to be running in the background even if you are inside a little area like a building. Getting off that subject, what exactly do you mean by attention to detail?


d32cac  No.15810055

>>15810031

It could be that the scope of thief is a much more limited game. So there's less ways to break the mission structure. Bethesda games / gamebryo tittles are actually built off of an old MMO engine. And because of that the scripting is very limited and buggy


03178b  No.15810077

>>15810043

>Getting off that subject, what exactly do you mean by attention to detail?

A good example of a game which I recently played which did this well was Divinity:Original Sin. There was so much to explore there, and all of it felt like it was part of a living, breathing world. It allowed me to do things in different ways which all made perfect sense in the context of the world I was operating in. It also often went out of its way to explain things which were not immedietly obvious, but at the same time werent essential information to persue any goals. They just were to make the characters and the world feel more lively.

> Bethesda games / gamebryo tittles are actually built off of an old MMO engine. And because of that the scripting is very limited and buggy

Why should we let that kind of excuse slip? They had many opputurnities to rework things to make them better, but they never saw the need to do that. They are presenting us shitty halfassed products every time with the goal in mind to rake in as much money as possible, and the collective gaming community always let them get away with it. Love and care in AAA videogames are dead, and people just stand by and encourage such behaviour. That's really sickening.


e9e2e1  No.15810087

>>15808231

>Ubisoft killed their development studios.

which ones?


1d4592  No.15810112

>>15808231

> When Bethesda Game Studios dies, any shred of my hope in the future of video games will die with it.

Good. Fanboys like you deserve nothing but despair. You are the cancer that is killing video games, once they die do a flip or fuck off to another hobby.


412dc8  No.15810190

File: 0fc4181d4b5e2b7⋯.jpg (68.57 KB, 1200x480, 5:2, Prey_GOTY_header.0.jpg)

Speaking of bethesda, is this game worth playing?


1dc04e  No.15810236

>>15810190

No, the story is fucking awful, the atmosphere is actually pretty alright at points, but everything else is pure garbage. The gunplay is fucking nothing, the enemy design is "lol 4 enemies" two of which are just fucking blobs and another is a fucking turret.


483005  No.15810252

>>15809999

>with some polished graphics

Skyrim is legitimately one of the ugliest games ever made.


090f4a  No.15810272

>Bethesda open world litterbox themepark

Haha, epic fellow gamer, watch out to not have your sweetrolls stolen.

>>15808236

>Fallout 4's weapon customization may be fucking stupid but I like it, I just wish it was more autistic and tacticool

You must be a drooling retard if you like

>full aut mod makes same caliber do more damage

>hurr durr pick biggest number available at the moment, return for even higher number when you level up and collect enough trash.


10b974  No.15810472

>>15810252

The overall atmosphere is the blandest so far, even vga pixelized Daggerfall had more personality. Beth studio lost its soul and it shows in their products.


5c7feb  No.15810573

File: 76b12600ca1510b⋯.jpg (75.05 KB, 600x904, 75:113, kumos_antus_the_redguard_b….jpg)

Bethesda has literally never had success outside of their particular formula for open-world story-driven games. They built the company on games like Arena, Daggerfall, and Terminator: Future Shock. Then they tried to deviate and fucked up so bad with Battlespire and Redguard that it all but tanked the company. Morrowind was supposed to be their last game, but it ended up saving the company. Then they had a string of successes with their usual formula - building them into a major AAA developer. Now they're starting to deviate again, and the whole foundation is crumbling out from under them.

You'd think they'd have learned by now that they're talentless hacks that literally are coasting on a formula that they struck gold with - and without that, they are nothing.


2d55e3  No.15810606

>>15808843

It's their best game since risen.


3749d5  No.15810715

File: 62113f2b4e5ba50⋯.png (230.74 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, remove todd, remove hines.png)

>>15810573

To be honest, being good at one thing isn't their problem. But being disgustingly ungrateful to the old faggots who (as you said) saved their sorry asses is sickening!

Morrowind is full with forum inside jokes ans shits as a thank you towards the people who stick with them in hard times. Then success came and they dumped us, US who saved their hide with our loyality and money! Filth like them belong into a shallow grave. Never again!


b7e94d  No.15810730

File: dd2c1421b0da9bd⋯.gif (945.15 KB, 367x309, 367:309, CHIMTACULAR.gif)

>>15808237

/thread


181ac0  No.15810785

>>15810606

>>15809229

Thanks, I will check it out then. The consensus on its thread seems to be that it's at least worth a pirate.


faa50b  No.15810793

Somebody is going to make a first-person 3D Ultima VII and then you'll be happy again.


2d55e3  No.15810797

>>15810785

the only games of theirs that were ever worth more than that were Gothic 1 and 2.


2d76ab  No.15810798

File: e30a4d998781e16⋯.webm (3.79 MB, 320x240, 4:3, dagoth ur conquers morrow….webm)

That sure would be nice.


675857  No.15810810

>>15810573

>story-driven

This is wrong. F4 and Skyrim quite clearly proven it is not a thing that attracts the people. Writing in this games was so shit most of current Beth consumer base would just switch to replaying Witcher3 or any other AAA open-world game. What these people want is borderline Daggerfall.

Problem is Bethesda just kept on getting closer to Redguard instead of Daggerfall. Add to this all the other problems with F76 and you just got yourself C&C5 all over again. If it was mainline game, we would most likely never see sequel to it.

>>15810793

Just remember to add modding tools to it and make it stable and you basically have at least half of sales Bethesdas get guaranteed.

I still believe lack modding tools was a reason these people are playing Fallout4 instead of Witcher3 right now.


4dc082  No.15810814

Nothing of value would be lost. Bethesda never made a single good game, ever. Go choke on a cock, op.


af1fe3  No.15810937

>tfw Elder Scrolls has top tier lore and potential

>All squandered by Bethesda


96dc99  No.15811027

>>15808231

>When Bethesda Game Studios dies, any shred of my hope in the future of video games will die with it.

Hush your fingers.


96dc99  No.15811041

>>15810190

The enemy is black mist and you shoot it to death. It's fucking garbage.


8991de  No.15811046

File: 02e1a1e5dccfe3c⋯.jpg (2.4 MB, 1609x3554, 1609:3554, Bethesda and Fallout.jpg)

>>15808299

>and I can never feel overpowered whatsoever

Note the important part to this child.


9aa0f6  No.15811052

File: fe6cd99501b2ad2⋯.png (374.51 KB, 480x650, 48:65, 1474346451488.png)

File: 62af522f52ad655⋯.jpg (1000.44 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, newvegas.jpg)

>>15808435

I like PLAYING Fallout 4 more than I like PLAYING FO3 or NV;

However the story in 4 was absolute horseshit, FO3 (mainly in the DLCs) had it's moments, NV's story was fucking great, but both 3 and NV were so fucking clunky gunplay-wise that it wasn't enjoyable to slog through;

I am very, very, very happy that Fallout 4 - New Vegas is a thing though, it looks like it's been ran by some competent people.


8991de  No.15811092

>>15810573

>Morrowind was supposed to be their last game, but it ended up saving the company.

Huh. From this perspective, it almost seems as if Bethesda is just Western Square on fast-forward. It took Square ten Final Fantasy games to finally shit the bed.


4a44e9  No.15811701

>>15809940

>where the only build is to get every perk


4aef9f  No.15811711

>>15811092

I see where you're coming from but no FF games have been as buggy and clunky as Bethesjew games. Even their worst entries haven't been plagued by shit like level scaling. Give me 10 more XIIIs before another Fallout 4.


24dd8d  No.15811721

>>15811052

>NV on f4

Cease and desist. They already killed skyblivion(or morroblivion) for this. You can mod the game but you cant use assets for the other game, even using morrowind shit in oblivion. Its already dead.


0a4d6e  No.15811733

>>15810190

I liked it


51199f  No.15811898

File: 73e7a4a38b303f4⋯.jpg (324.6 KB, 1280x1353, 1280:1353, TODD PREORDER.jpg)

TELL ME LIES TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES


ffea3d  No.15811921

File: 3ff3964675caa98⋯.jpg (44.68 KB, 540x429, 180:143, 3ff3964675caa981a82c361626….jpg)

>>15811721

>You can mod the game but you cant use assets for the other game

Why, though? They allow for complete standalone games that simply reuse their assets, such as Enderal and Nehrim.


d2daf7  No.15811978

>>15809994

Nah, more recent meme being applied backward by newfags. Daggerfall and Morrowind have bugs but compared to the can of worms Oblivion opened they're relatively minor after the official updates. Morrowind actually has a weird scenario where the fan 'patch' has numerous changes to developer intended elements of quests/gameplay besides, so the community somewhat helps to break them in this case. I'd go into details but I'm the only person in this thread patrician enough to know what I'm talking about anyway so it would be a massive waste of my time. Much like ever playing another Bethesda game released in the last 10 years and for the foreseeable future.


1c14b1  No.15812044

RPGs with level scaling should be banned or just relegated to F2P mobile shit. Its the reason I will never played Elder Scrolls. Seriously, what's the point of even leveling up in their games?


4a44e9  No.15812087

>>15812044

>what's the point of even leveling up in their games?

some might argue Access to new skills or certain Unlocks. artificial fuckery either way.


ffea3d  No.15812108

>>15812044

Morrowind doesn't have level scaling. On the other hand you can stay in a town and cast destruction spells on yourself for a few hours and then walk out as a god amongst men who flicks fireballs that kill everything in a 30 foot radius.

But yeah level scaling is boring as fuck


5c7feb  No.15812387

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15810573

>Terminator: Future Shock

Shit, actually I just meant "The Terminator". Not sure if Future Shock fits their open world formula, since I never played it. The Terminator was pretty fun though from what I remember.


407272  No.15812437

File: c0cab5402a8d13b⋯.jpg (45.62 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 467699786.jpg)

>>15812108

>tfw you'll never exist in a world where you can become a god by spamming a skill for a couple hours

Why even live?


af1fe3  No.15812492

What are good mods for FO4? Are there any aside from uninstall.exe?


3a5e8a  No.15812497


79adc7  No.15812529

File: 9c5731f7a1c51af⋯.jpg (280.28 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Video game writing.jpg)

>>15810190

The story seems to be complete gibberish, and from what I've heard the gameplay is quite sluggish. It may be worth a pirate if you're itching for an "immersive sim," for lack of a better moniker.

Personally, there's something about the level of brightness and polish (as in it literally looks too shiny, not metaphorical sturdiness) that makes the entire game look as though it's covered in a shade of not-quite-dry varnish. It's like every material was carved from solid acrylic or something.


f48af7  No.15812536

File: aece6f4328ab87a⋯.jpg (5.31 KB, 158x152, 79:76, 1324355008191.jpg)

>Over and out.

Fuck you, this statement is complete bullshit. You say "over" at the end of messages to pass the conversation to the person you are communicating with. When a conversation is concluded, you say "out" to signal the end of communications. When you say "over and out", you're literally saying passing the conversation to the other person but you're not going to listen to the response.

Fucking morons pretending to be cool with retarded radio calls. Fuck you. Out.


5d20b4  No.15812567

File: 30b6097d55a4e3e⋯.jpg (4.29 KB, 250x250, 1:1, 1539029956604s.jpg)

>>15812529

christ I hope this is bait


3a5e8a  No.15812572

File: 9e62a846bbf92c7⋯.jpg (27.22 KB, 403x433, 403:433, 9e62a846bbf92c7d3cbee834cd….jpg)


ebe51c  No.15821541

>>15808237

This is yandev tier bad.


ccf960  No.15821569


3f834a  No.15821600

File: 1bb90667eaffdc4⋯.jpg (54.09 KB, 1060x988, 265:247, h9dfajWMbO9uqp.jpg)

>>15812536

>passing the conversation to the other person but you're not going to listen to the response

Well now I know there are many uses for it. Over and out


df8f13  No.15821635

Quality of Fallout 76 isnt even different from fallout 4. Its hatred over the internet is simply an overblown reaction that will probably fade away right after they fix the game.

Just notice how shitposting is dying after they sorted out the canvas bag.


ebe51c  No.15821675

>>15821635

>literally defending todd

Get the fuck out.


200a71  No.15821704

>>15808236

The idea of making rocket launcher revolvers was fun and interesting thanks to mods, also the automated butchery.


586196  No.15821902

File: bf23ec3130a19fa⋯.png (85.29 KB, 412x490, 206:245, Todd_Howard_visits_8chan.png)

>>15821635

Yes, its totally caused by the internet reaction and soon everything will be fixed.

It just works


9f7067  No.15821960

>>15810190

Yes, it's a decent system shock clone


ccf960  No.15822049

>>15808231

>Over and out.

Feel like I've been here before, over and over again.


af673b  No.15822170

>>15810190

No, it's a crap System Shock clone.


df8f13  No.15822174

>>15821902

This but unironically.

2 years from now it'll be played more than fallout 4.


bff89e  No.15822208

Bethesda's games are as shallow as a fucking kiddie pool. Yeah, the concepts of most of their games sound really cool on paper, but the actual implementations are poorly executed, thought out, and just outright lazily made. Their last great game was Morrowind, and that seems to be largely a fluke, plus it's not like that game is without its own vast share of problems. You're a faggot, OP. You probably like the fact their games have become shallow, effortless player power fantasies. If your hope in the future of video games dies forever, good. Maybe you'll stop negatively influencing the industry with your shit taste.


6152c4  No.15822292

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15811721

All of F4NV's assets are being made from scratch, including voice lines.


ade24c  No.15822317

people get angry at things they love, no one would give a shit unless they wanted it to succeed. but they are doing everything in their power to fuck up and be jews.


483005  No.15822346

>>15822339

>>15822334

Stay mad Todd.


8c0dd8  No.15822386

>>15808482

That's silly, what about side quests? However much people have criticized Bethesda games' main quests, the side quests have generally been one of their strongest points, and an important part (perhaps the most important) of creating the illusion that the player exists within and is interacting with a dynamic, inhabited world. To ignore the writing overall is to ignore a substantial percentage of the game, like watching a movie on mute.


be7ec5  No.15822405

File: 390da31aad8a8d6⋯.gif (27.54 KB, 431x388, 431:388, 81975036a038c01ef2ee7eeec1….gif)

>>15822292

That looks incredible


8ad70c  No.15824453

>>15808236

Until you realize FO4's arsenal is gutted, that is

>weapons in FO4 (not counting unique variants): 83

>weapons in NV (not counting unique variants): 152


483005  No.15824472

>>15824453

Even that figure seems highly inflated because half the fucking guns were just pipe variants.


8ad70c  No.15824490

File: 1acf954e48d0380⋯.jpg (40.17 KB, 407x379, 407:379, 1464129994639.jpg)

>>15809969

Are you seriously defending Bethesda so utterly and completely missing the fucking point of a Fallout game they force you into a pre-written character? Fucking off yourself.


8ad70c  No.15824501

>>15824472

It's mostly throwables, placeables, etc. inflating that number. FO4's lineup of ballistic and energy weapons is indeed fucking tiny.


5c7feb  No.15824645

>>15822292

> including voice lines.

First thing I'd do is rip all the dialogue audio from NV and replace the voiced lines with the original. Not that I don't appreciate the work being done to revoice the lines, but my autism probably wouldn't let slide the uncanny valley effect of voices that almost sound right. Hopefully they keep the naming structure in place so it's a simple drag & drop with maybe a batch conversion if the files don't work natively with FO4.


a04efa  No.15824710

>>15808237

>those low res textures

what the fuck


59ca8f  No.15824722

File: 05b88ff8cf9263e⋯.jpg (32.39 KB, 755x621, 755:621, 05b88ff8cf9263e923e5e56046….jpg)

>>15822292

THE MOVING VAULT BOY ANIMATIONS AND THE FUCKING GAY AS NIGGER SOUND EFFECTS MAKE THIS AN INSTANT 0/10


4f31d9  No.15824729

>>15824722

Fuck you, anon! I think it's cute.


5c7feb  No.15824742

>>15824729

You also think men's buttholes are cute.


59ca8f  No.15824751

File: 0a35c8c0649165f⋯.jpg (34.83 KB, 481x401, 481:401, 0a35c8c0649165f01ea6300ac4….jpg)

>>15824729

Thats precisely it. Its trying to be cute and silly to appeal to the soy chugging numales and butch dykes that are the new core demographic of this series. Vault boy was funny because he was in contrast with the brutal reality, a morbid joke at how vault-tech tries to keep you cheerful in a shithole world.

Now its a goofy lala shit where morbid dark jokes are replaced ebin happy fun times. I think there is a perk in fagout 4 where if you get a crit and the enemy dies a party sound effect plays and bottlecaps fly like confetti in your hud. Probably some bullshit perk like you automatically get caps for turning your enemies in gored messes.


483005  No.15824761

>>15824751

It also doesn't make sense considering old ass computer terminals like that weren't capable of displaying smoothly tweened flash style animations, or likely any animation at all outside of crude Tiger handheld looking shit.


8b2e5b  No.15824766

>that glorious feel when best company Nintendo has the best open world games ever made (Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade Chronicles 2) as exclusives and they sold extremely well while Bethesda is getting fucked hard


a04efa  No.15824783

>>15824766

>the best

Wouldn't call Breath of the wild one of the best games, it was alright but definitely needed more reason to explore. The only interesting place to explore was the castle god damn was the music good there too

Oh and less fucking TEMPLES FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU


391011  No.15824790

File: 4f0549806739be9⋯.png (83.26 KB, 481x637, 37:49, 4f0549806739be941f4b17506f….png)

>>15824766

>BotW

>Xenofag Waifu 2

>best open world


4f31d9  No.15824793

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15824751

What about this? GOTCHA, ANON.


59ca8f  No.15824801

>>15824793

What about it? Its like a silly ad for vault tech. Not clown sound effects with eyes popping out while you are stuck in a radioactive pit surrounded by centaurs.


69e6c1  No.15824815

>>15824722

As usual, we're gonna needs mods for that.

Why I gave up on Skyrim and subsequent Bethesda games was that I realized Skyrim's core was ripped out and there's no proper way of fixing and adding onto the main quest to begin with. It's a plain and old doughnut and modders add all the glazings and try to re-heat it and such but nothing's at the center even then.


483005  No.15824848

>>15824793

Had this intro been made by Bethesda there would be supermutants and super sledges in that footage.


d32cac  No.15824851

File: 8385ffef3e30ff4⋯.gif (1.68 MB, 480x270, 16:9, sw.gif)

File: ec81b943ca26523⋯.gif (2.29 MB, 768x400, 48:25, cuphead-crt-tv.gif)

>>15824761

what? they use crts in fallout, not lcds. crts can display smooth animation just fine.


4f31d9  No.15824858

>>15824848

Yeah, but what does that have to do with the fan remake of Vegas having animated perks?


483005  No.15824866

>>15824851

>comparing a vector display to monitors made before integrated circuits were stolen from a German scientist by a Jew invented in the late 50s


c218e3  No.15825589

>>15808518

obviously oblivion as how v1.0 was released back then:

play

enter shop

click on ugly troll selling axes

crash

confused face


c218e3  No.15825600

>>15808550

this. it's just sad that new vegas runs on this shite engine because its the only game i kept of all these shite isos


c218e3  No.15825622

>>15822292

fucking aids in end stadium. i hope shittymax shuts this down and then goes bankrupt shortly after.

KEEP YOUR FUCKING F4ILOUT AIDS THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY NV YOU ASSNIGGERS!!!!


743fe3  No.15827383

File: 4e0355bbaa26702⋯.png (166.37 KB, 400x480, 5:6, 9078362346.png)

>>15811921

They probably regret that too, considering both Nehrim and Enderal totally upstaged their source material.


cd149a  No.15827422

>sadly

bethesda never really produced anything of value at all.


b43601  No.15827462

File: c3af893e4d4ea23⋯.png (171.96 KB, 600x635, 120:127, a8c2d3b4d5aeaf7b1bd802be92….png)

169 replies and no one realized that the OP was bait.


000000  No.15827472

>>15827462

Shitting on a company that didn't produce anything of value is always good.


e53efc  No.15827515

>>15811921

Same reason PGI killed all Battletech fangames: It embarrasses them that some retard who does it for free after his job at walmart is ten times better than them.


9595f3  No.15827571

>>15808435

>Fallout 4 is a much better Bethesda game than either 3 or NV.

FO4's story was horseshit right out of the gate

>institute has large amount of resources

>synths, weapons, gadgets, etc

>needs to hire le edgy marauder anyway

>scientists want pre-war dna

>vault has tons of survivors, diverse set of pre-war dna

>kills all remaining survivors sans baby anyway


fcf49c  No.15827680

>>15822292

>fan remake of a shitty game in a even shittier engine.

the level of dedication idiots have to Bethesdo is shocking.


5f1457  No.15827698

>>15822292

>still use a buggy engines

Literally WHY? Should have build it on UE4


7d2902  No.15839555

>>15822292

Neat but why?


161647  No.15842233

File: c74ac1cd6b35310⋯.png (160.07 KB, 451x360, 451:360, c74ac1cd6b353106dcd5360bcb….png)

>sucking Todd's cock

>even though Todd is one of the main reasons Bethesda games have been getting shittier, more linear and less RPG like

Look at Fallout before Bethesda and TES before Howard was in charge. Now look at them under Howard's oversight. I'll be honest with you, Todd's behind some of my favorite games but he's actively shitting up two major franchises because he has a hard-on for three things:

-Money

-Linear Storytelling

-Arcade Sandboxes

Therefor you get Rimjob and Fartout 4. That said, 76, like The Abomination Scrolls: Online wasn't developed by Bethesda(to my knowledge) but sourced out by Zenimax.

With that, you said something here that warrants the death penalty.

>Daggerfall

>Morrowind

>Not RPGs

>New Vegas

>Not better than FO3

Listen, Todd, you need to go fuck yourself in every hole you have and when you run out of holes you need to make some new ones. Fuck off back to your hole and stay there you absolutely degenerate trash.

What you said is not only objectively wrong, it marks you out as a complete fucking idiot with no frame of reference and a questionable agenda.

Quite literally, fuck yourself to death.


090f4a  No.15842249

>>15824793

>a warning to wear protective eyewear with an overexaggerated consequences of not doing so is the same as epic lolrandumb itchy and scratchy violence

>>15822292

>porting it to same engine because muh gwaaapheeecs, and muuuh shooting(that's actually worse in f4, due to weapon sounds, animations and balance)

>>15827698

Porting NV to Fallout 2 engine would've been more interesting.


8d3a9a  No.15842252

>>15839555

Because Zenimax has threatened the mod makers with legal action if they just port the resources.


fcf49c  No.15842255

If dubs Zenimax does the right thing and kills Bethesda


d1be71  No.15842666

>>15842255

That's not the right thing, nigger, Bethesda acquiring the rights to Zenimax would be the right thing…mainly because it would be the absolute kekiest thing to happen in gayming for a long while now.


d1be71  No.15842687

>>15842249

>FO4 shooting worse than NV

That's objectively wrong you double nigger. Have you actually ever played New Vegas? All the guns are literally nerf guns that fire glowing beads that travel at the speed of a wet fart.

NV, while still a great game, suffers massively because it's based on FO3 for it's infrastructure. FO3, by contrast, has some of the worst shooting ever seen in gaming history. It's legitimately disgusting and damn-near unplayable without mods.

On the very short list of good things that can be said about FO4 is that guns don't feel like complete shit. They're still far from ideal but at least they're not completely awful.


483005  No.15842692

>>15842666

>kekiest

Just stop.


d1be71  No.15842718

File: 0c3374ef4812c86⋯.jpg (136.56 KB, 1500x1004, 375:251, North_American_P-51D-30-NT….jpg)

>>15824851

>crt

They also have nixie tubes. One thing I never got was the Power Armor hud for FO4 and why they never made a mod to fix it. You literally have a giant basket in front of you…if you're not going to do a proper hud-overlay…nigger faggot do a nixie-tube and CRT screen pannel in the giant fucking kitchen-sink on your chest! Shit should've been done so you can look down and see your gauges.

That said, I do think they may have some degree of LCD tech otherwise Enclave power armor would be HUDless and given all the shit it's got going on that probably wouldn't be a great idea.

At the very least you'd want to be able to keep a track on the suit's various temperatures and parts damage so the nuclear device strapped to your spine doesn't decide to teleport you to the 5th circle.


d0442b  No.15842924

>>15842718

>Shit should've been done so you can look down and see your gauges.

That's how it is in the VR version. Of course, they did it in the most annoying way possible.


53abac  No.15843263

>>15822292

>All of F4NV's assets are being made from scratch, including voice lines.

what a waste of time


0245d3  No.15843629

>>15810190

I enjoyed the setting and even though the zero-G controls were pretty clunky, it was kind of fun flying outside the station. The story was crap of the highest order that started going downhill as soon as the intro endedseriously fuck sci-fi stories with the twist being "it was all a simulation inside a simulation", it's not clever at all. I liked some of the sci-fi concepts in the game but they were overlooked in favor of the bad main plot. Gamplay can be broken pretty easily which is a good thing since it's boring otherwise. Enemies are repetitive and they respawn. The first time exploring through the station was very fun for me personally, but it gets real old real fast once you have to backtrack through loading screen after loading screen after loading screen. I'd say the first third of the game was 7,5-8/10 and the rest was around 5-6/10. Once you've found out all the moving parts it turns from exploration to a slog and there's like 2/3rds of the game to go still.

I'd say don't pay too much for it or anything but it's worth a play at least partly.


8d9f58  No.15843641

>>15808303

Making actual open world in Unity is hard than you would imagine. You would have to manually load and unload certain parts of the world by manually placing the cells there yourself.

It can be done, it's just impractical and you'd be better off finding a somewhat different approach to "open world". Probably something along the lines of Xenoblade X, where the world is large and seamless but it's still divided into certain "regions"/continents and you have entire sections of the map completely unloaded at times.


d32cac  No.15843653

File: 882f707c75fbbc1⋯.jpg (32.06 KB, 421x500, 421:500, 513rVjFGN-L.jpg)

File: 5ac2dfaa4149526⋯.jpg (18.96 KB, 679x382, 679:382, 61R39il0yhL._UX679_.jpg)

File: 733b8f2862189c8⋯.jpg (76.65 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>15842718

I thought the pip boy was the hud for the Power Armor? don't all Power Armor users have/need a pipboy? power armor helmets don't seem to have any display in them. you wouldn't need LCD's for a hud, just small lowres crts in the back of the headpiece and just use mirrors for projection like pinball 2000 did. creates a "hologram" like effect for an overlay.


d14e7a  No.15843734

File: 3c175ffe9ec6dab⋯.png (432.2 KB, 2608x1092, 652:273, cjpgnd.png)

File: c76a0e85a623333⋯.gif (9.83 KB, 628x424, 157:106, ScophonySchematic.gif)

>>15824761

Anon, you're fucking retarded, I'm posting this on a 1440p 120hz CRT monitor right now and my CRT projector runs at 4K with higher color accuracy than your stupid BenQ meme monitor can ever hope to achieve.

>>15824866

You're also fucking retarded, CRTs have been around since the 1890s. And mechanical TVs have been around long before then.

TV's weren't widely popular until the advent and viability of radio as there was very few ways of getting a consistent image on the TV outside of watching a 2 min clip using audio signals from a phonograph.


8d9f58  No.15843737

>>15810043

>Are you sure you're not just seeing see through rose-tinted glasses?

Yes, fellow Redditor. Modern games are pretty bad, but don't old games kinda suck as well??? I mean, sure the design principles in the gaming industry have shifted completely on the other end of the spectrum over the last 20 years, but… old games were so buggy!!! xD I mean in Morrowind you just go swish swish whack! Come on! That wouldn't fly today, get with the times!

>One of the limitations of bethesda's engine is that the entire world has to be running in the background

You are a fucking retard and you have no idea how open world design works. Open World games are divided into "cells", which are equally sized squares that essentially turn the world into a grid. The cells contain basically all the "level design" information for that particular area. Precise terrain heightmaps, NPC's, static props, foliage, buildings, etc. The game will detect which cell the player is currently inside, and then process everything in that cell AND all the adjacent cells + whatever distance the developers are willing to code in. Everything beyond those cells is basically nonexistent as far as the code is concerned. Important objects like cliffs or tall towers will be stored as low resolution turd replicas of their original copy.

A well programmed open world game should only be SLIGHTLY more demanding than a regular game. It should require essentially the same processing power as a linear game with huge levels.


b9363f  No.15843742

File: 2a7b12d3cb686ed⋯.webm (5.94 MB, 626x360, 313:180, CRT TV Smash Compilation-….webm)

>>15843734

lmao how can you be this much of a gay cuckold virgin that care so much about literally pixels lmao


d32cac  No.15843767

File: 9cb55efc4bb7b27⋯.png (159.29 KB, 321x234, 107:78, 1401013660964.png)

>>15843742

>thinks a gore video will bother anyone on 8chan.

troll harder my dude


d14e7a  No.15843780

File: f97b843c6528198⋯.jpg (249.62 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, 1449896230989.jpg)

>>15827680

>He thinks NV was a bethesda game

>He doesn't know it was made by the original Fallout devs

I take it you're one of those people that hasn't actually played it and assumes it's like Fallout 3 because it runs on the same engine.

>>15842233

This.


090f4a  No.15843793

File: 31a5185d51f61be⋯.jpg (121.67 KB, 940x589, 940:589, Art_of_Fo4_pipe_gun_CA.jpg)

File: 836589e83995f55⋯.png (6.04 MB, 1920x822, 320:137, AssrifleFO4.png)

File: 6a92ffd7c506c64⋯.png (3.76 MB, 1597x615, 1597:615, Fallout4_is it combat rifl….png)

File: 829019b7610e19a⋯.png (383.05 KB, 1613x509, 1613:509, FO4_Recoil_compensated_pip….png)

>>15842687

>FO4 is that guns don't feel like complete shit.

>braap noises and atricious design


338d65  No.15843796

>>15843742

cuckchan bait


338d65  No.15843809

>>15843793

>first image

they should of modeled them off the the guns shitskins try to make


d14e7a  No.15843816

File: 86ba0e1406b7a35⋯.jpg (587.92 KB, 2000x1282, 1000:641, freetime_in_novac_by_hel99….jpg)

File: a8e4c2b45826914⋯.jpg (172.37 KB, 894x692, 447:346, 1227442 - Cazador DocHyde ….jpg)

>>15822292

>>15822405

>>15843263

>>15842249

>>15827680

>>15827698

>>15839555

This is worse than you all think.

For one, If you've seen the video footage of the opening Doc Mitchell section you notice it looks worse than the vanilla NV.

Not to mention the creation engine has a major flaw in it's scripting engine(papyrus) where scripts are baked into your savegame, causing a massive save bloat crisis that just wasn't there in NV. Scripts will also keep running even after you removed the associated mod, meaning you have to start a new playthough every time you decide you don't like a mod.

Another problem I see is the lack of existing mods. NV has 8 years of really talented mod work that I really doubt much of it will get ported over.

I get the sentiment behind it and can appreciate the effort, but there really is more to it than just "NV ugly, fallout 4 pretty"

I honestly would have preferred an Open Source re-implementation of the engine like what OpenMW did; "OpenNV" if you will. Because then you can do a whole lot more with the engine, like dynamic shadows, improved physics, better optimization, more than 4 gigs of ram, ports to other operating systems and architectures, and even online co-op. Plus it will immortalize NV for future generations that may not be able to run an x86 Windows 7 program on future hardware.

>>15824645

What's really fucking stupid is that the the reason Fallout 3s voice acting was in a legal grey area was because it's voice acting rights are owned by the Voice Actors Guild while NV's voice acting is owned by Zenimax

So the original plan to simply port over the files ALA TTW style from a legally purchased copy of Fallout NV would have been no issue. So there's no fucking reason to hire new voice actors.

The entire project is fucking pointless.


483005  No.15843819

>>15843734

>CRTs have been around since the 1890s.

Almost like I'm talking about things older than that you illiterate spic.


d14e7a  No.15843828

File: 8d4b121022b3f85⋯.jpg (148.28 KB, 601x601, 1:1, 1361384319521.jpg)

>>15843742

All of the CRTs in that video are consumer grade shit boxes with no value. They probably only take RF or component and they operate at 240p. Try harder zoomer.


d14e7a  No.15843835

File: ee7f51ecec5ea1e⋯.png (198.49 KB, 650x650, 1:1, 719892 - B-Intend Fallout ….png)

>>15843734

>>15843819

CRT's didn't require integrated circuits though.


090f4a  No.15843839

File: fd445790d86d1c8⋯.jpg (7.61 KB, 259x194, 259:194, images.jpg)

File: b7f1086dd8328bd⋯.jpg (73.2 KB, 630x320, 63:32, way_feature-630x320.jpg)

>>15843809

you mean khyber pass?

<we approached design from the point of an illiterate retard who knows nothing about guns, but wants to make guns.

this makes my blood boil.

>noguns retard making a functional drum mag

>pipe scopes

>all those fucking stocks


2f2dbb  No.15843855

File: afe9b058ecee81c⋯.png (114.61 KB, 326x226, 163:113, concerned militia.png)

>>15843816

>Bloatfly gangbang

But Why Though?


0f5e8e  No.15843872

File: 051b6540fa5850c⋯.png (599.19 KB, 910x826, 65:59, (C89)_[Dorepooru_(Leopard)….png)

>>15843793

>"We approached these designs from the point of view of a resourceful wastelander who knows nothing about guns but is trying to make gun-like contraptions"

>A guy who doesn't know how guns work tries to make guns without learning how guns work

I can hear how retarded that sounds, and that's from a still image with no sound on the internet.


0f5e8e  No.15843877

>>15843855

Those are not bloatflies, those are fucking cazadores.


090f4a  No.15843894

>>15843872

And they failed at that, because let's say the retard has no hands-on experience with guns and no knowledge of modern fire-arms, he won't be making drum mags, but if he has intellectual capacity to understand what guns are, he'd proebably make a musket, or a cannon.

>put in explosive propellant, a ball, make it go boom and go fast into intended target.


d32cac  No.15843896

File: 285e1729405e88e⋯.jpg (162.08 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

File: 8f2c17b845bd57f⋯.jpg (67.03 KB, 600x322, 300:161, cable-types.jpg)

>>15843828

>rf or component.

component is good, you mean "composite". a good portion of TV's can be modified for RGB (basically the quality as component) so if a consumer grade TV is in good working condition, it's likely worth it to mod


b3d053  No.15843923

File: 6c1ad507085ba65⋯.png (600.03 KB, 728x362, 364:181, ClipboardImage.png)

File: f85855fd146ef2d⋯.png (1.89 MB, 895x1161, 895:1161, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 77396952417054a⋯.png (144.12 KB, 584x256, 73:32, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 0af8efcf89db67c⋯.png (1.03 MB, 1280x960, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15843839

>khyber pass

Never heard of it. I thought he was talking about Brazil


090f4a  No.15843949

>>15843923

They still look more functional than shitout 4 guns.

>bethesda didn't even bother googling "pipegun" to steal ideas from monkeys or shitskins


d14e7a  No.15843976

File: 54efee283827fbd⋯.jpeg (108.32 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, 1521098190564.JPEG)

File: 60726ffe41a82b0⋯.jpeg (151.73 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, 1521098225546.JPEG)

>>15843896

I did mean composite, it was a mistype.

However, component quality is still nowhere near the same quality as straight RGB like VGA or BNC5

Also don't fall for the pvm/bvm meme, most 90s CRT monitors use the same gun and can achieve the same results. pics related, taken on an IBM p260 using VGA.


b3d053  No.15843986

>>15843949

I'm sure that when they said

>we approached design from the point of an illiterate retard who knows nothing about guns, but wants to make guns.

They meant

we design from the point of an illiterate retard who knows nothing about guns, but wants to make guns.


0d5b72  No.15843995

>>15843923

>2nd pic

>4th pic

When can we expect Brazil to form its first Waagh?


dbff19  No.15844018

File: 6c232ff339489c4⋯.jpg (54.95 KB, 850x436, 425:218, Black-Ops-3-Adidas.jpg)

>>15843923

>adidas

Fucking spics.


d32cac  No.15844019

File: 0f6149db9f54c6f⋯.jpg (134.27 KB, 1100x485, 220:97, 2659367_orig.jpg)

>>15843976

>component quality is still nowhere near the same quality as straight RGB.

from all the testing i've seen, it's close enough, and the best connection the US had for TV's near the end of the analog era.

>Also don't fall for the pvm/bvm meme, most 90s CRT monitors use the same gun and can achieve the same results. pics related.

"thick scanlines" (the bvm look) are a result of the the resolution or "lines" the tube is capable of resolving. the trinitron in the pic above is most likely only 450 lines (or less) resulting in very skinny only most invisible scanlines, while the BVM's are 800 to 1000 lines. same idea with that IBM p260 as PC (and production) monitors needed higher resolution tubes (more lines) to resolve things like text editors and graphics production.


b3d053  No.15844044

>>15843995

You know, its funny that they compared them to Orks. There is an anthropological book called "Laughter out of Place", and it turns out that the Brazilians who live in the Favela do not cry when bad things happen.

They Laugh.

There is this wonderful example in it when the woman who is the focus of it, Gloria, recounts a time she happened upon one of her ex's who did not live in the Favelas and her telling the tale of how their son died.

The story includes how he was shitting himself, and how the doctors were smoking over him and pronounced him dead before he even died, and how he died with an erection which was stuck due to rigor mortis and how they struggle to get him into his funeral cloths because of his tiny erection.

All the while she is laughing and smiling while telling him this visceral and horrible story of how his son died, and he becomes visibly upset and brought to tears before driving off in his car. Best part is that Gloria was offended that he didn't laugh with her.


0f5e8e  No.15844066

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15844044

>he died with an erection which was stuck due to rigor mortis

They could have resurrected him if he had an erection.


b2acc4  No.15844121

>>15843877

And it's that very misidentification that is responsible for 9/10 wasteland insect related deaths.

THE MORE YOU KNOW


0f5e8e  No.15844140

>>15844121

How the fuck can someone mistake a cazador for a bloatfly?


d1ff3e  No.15844145

File: 8a132b977179fd4⋯.gif (485.62 KB, 325x244, 325:244, taking up two parking spot….gif)

>>15824851

>Using .gif to present examples of hardware animation


b3d053  No.15844157

>>15844140

>[Survival 10/25] 'Those orange winged devil bugs'? Hah! I can handle bloatfly easy.


b2acc4  No.15844167

>>15844140

First time encounters are a harsh lesson in surviving the wasteland,


ff005c  No.15844663

>>15843780

>and assumes it's like Fallout 3

I don't have to assume because it is, and just like 3 it's still worse than the first two.

also unless Bethesda had it in their contract with Obsidian that they had to use Bethesda's Gamebryo Engine there is literally no reason the 'original Fallout devs' couldn't have made a fallout game just like the first two


5eedad  No.15844768

>>15844663

Has Obsidian ever made their own engine?

They've generally made games that are closer to expansion-packs and DLC than actual games.


0c1c09  No.15845180

>>15843793

Still better than prior offerings, nigger. That said the glorified Lewis Gun being called an "assault rifle" when Bethesda themselves already put an assault rifle based on the CETME in Fallout 3 is absolutely stupid.


0c1c09  No.15845187

File: 6514193a51dc0a8⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 63.99 KB, 617x800, 617:800, 6514193a51dc0a83da043c102….jpeg)

File: 9f9879f74f05154⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 230.35 KB, 800x590, 80:59, bd4a48a0061e593c178ce4528….jpeg)

>>15843855

BECAUSE IT MAKES MY DICK HARD!


0c1c09  No.15845204

>>15843653

I mean, that's probably how it used to be(I genuinely don't remember) but power armor also used to be a suit instead of a vehicle and you needed special training to use it because obviously.

Now any illiterate shit-monger can not only pilot but create their own functioning suit of power-armor. I though the whole point of making you an Anchorage vet. was so that it'd justify you being able to use power armor from the start.

In any case, if it is done internally it would probably be done something like fighter or helicopter helmet HUDs work with the images being reflected off the actual visor itself(so yeah, I suppose something like Pinball 2000).

Having some sort of smart-link system(which should be cannon because robots and turrets are) would also explain having a targeting reticle. But no, that would be too much work for Bethesda.

They need that dev-time to rip out all the RPG elements.


dd4c90  No.15845264

>>15843793

Gunplay is weapon physics, animations, recoil system, sounds, and responsiveness.


0c1c09  No.15845295

By the way,on the Anchorage vet thing, I'd like to point out that, apparently, nobody told the writers because you spend the entire game being treated like a civ and there's maybe 2 lines in the entire game that bring this up.

Your character even treats himself like a civilian. That's absolutely retarded.


4e5688  No.15845333

>>15845187

This shit is beyond cuckoldry and bestiality, it's like post-cuckoldry.


c145ef  No.15845348

>>15845187

but why


b21165  No.15845376

>>15843734

What's the make/model of your CRT?


0c1c09  No.15845524

File: 77fa01590488084⋯.gif (Spoiler Image, 3.26 MB, 411x169, 411:169, 438349b842cb359d36d07df246….gif)

File: 9f248fcc7baebeb⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 128.51 KB, 950x822, 475:411, faf27a3666e34a330a8bb96946….jpg)

>>15845348

BECAUSE IT DOES!

>>15845333

>bestiality

>on the same level as cuckoldry

Nigger you need to be buried in a hole and shat on until you die, Tibet style. I'm not denying I'm a deviant, but don't you go accusing me of shit so base and disgusting as cuckoldry. That's legitimately offensive.


7cdfae  No.15845569

>>15808231

Fuck off, with this blog post, faggot.


336df5  No.15845598

>>15809999

>Ever since my childhood it has been my dream to witness the technological advancement of videogames and I fantasized about how detailed, awesome and realistic videogames would be to make me feel like I'm having a real adventure.

>And when Skyrim got released I thought that the time has finally come. But instead of getting a really wellmade game we got a poorly scripted turd with some polished graphics. And when I realized that developers don't have to strive to improve anymore I gave up on my childhood dream.

SHIT LIKE THIS is why I don't care about vidya anymore and just sorta play them on the down low.


cadcbf  No.15845669

>>15808231

>not even New Vegas or Kingdom Come managed to capture their feeling

they both surpassed it. obsidian's new game will leave them in the dust


ade24c  No.15845679

File: 9dbbf76e36c2579⋯.webm (1.39 MB, 320x240, 4:3, Fuck you.webm)

>>15845333

wasted trips


bfc13f  No.15845681

File: 0ea112efe41e1b6⋯.jpg (190.48 KB, 762x785, 762:785, fag.jpg)

>>15845524

<I DEMAND respect for my shit fetish


ade24c  No.15845684

>>15845681

enlighten us with your fetish faggot


0c1c09  No.15845716

>>15845681

Where did I demand respect, faggot? I chastised you for being a retard with no sense. Kids these days, they keep popping them out dumber and dumber.


d14e7a  No.15845732

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15808324

Nigger there's thousands of dungeon crawlers like Ultima Underworld. What made Daggerfall so special was you could actually leave the dungeon and there was a whole world full of towns and villages with bustling city streets filled with NPCs, guilds, factions, and quests to do. You could buy a horse cart and a ship and take out a loan for a merchant trade business, you could even settle down and buy a house. You could be a low life pickpocket with high street cred or a chivalrous noble with high respect among the wealthy classes. It was a fantasy life simulator and the dungeon crawling was only one aspect of the game. It was the closest thing to a true computerized tabletop RPG we've ever gotten.

No game has ever come close to replicating what Daggerfall did, not even future elder scrolls games. Vid fucking related.


b70dac  No.15845812

>>15845732

>with high street cred

Please explain


74522c  No.15845998

>>15845868

Except I'm not, it's one thing to be insult for something that you are and another for something you're not. I'm amused by how basic logic escapes your nigger brain.

Here, have some more to help you through having to be a nigger all your life.


74522c  No.15846001

Oops, my ban removed the pics. Well, whatever, he's a nigger so I'm sure he can find plenty of that out in the congo.


090f4a  No.15846022

>>15845264

>animations, recoil system, sounds, and responsiveness.

Funny as hell, all of those are dogshit, especially for bolt action rifles that are being held and reloaded improperly.


ca8fb4  No.15848551

>>15808231

Zenimax would never can BGS, ever. BGS is too ingrained in their history. Other than ZOS (the creators of ESO, which frankly makes them the company's red-headed stepchild), BGS is the only studio under Zenimax that wasn't an acquisition. Todd single-handedly made the company what it is today, by making four profitable games in a row that allowed Zenimax to grow and acquire other studios.

It will never happen.


7a2e82  No.15849104

>>15810573

This is Game Freak except their failures were even worse bombs than Bethesda's and their success is the most lucrative multimedia franchise to have ever existed


ebe51c  No.15850302


f541ce  No.15850652

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

dd4c90  No.15850685

>>15850652

Todd is a product person.


f541ce  No.15850815

>>15850685

>Todd is a product person.

Like hell he is, Todd is a sales and marketing person


b0831a  No.15850837

they just had to swallow a failing online game studio (battlecry) and now publisher will force them to spend majority of their time making games into platforms and live service

what happened to fallout 76


acebe5  No.15850850

>>15843793

>We approached these designs from the point of view of an overpaid Bethesda artist who knows nothing about guns but is trying to make gun-like designs.


f541ce  No.15850943

>>15843816

the issue was the files were a bitch to port over oddly enough


0b827c  No.15851677

File: 9131e859501447e⋯.png (79.25 KB, 227x295, 227:295, HurpDurp.png)

>>15845681

No anon you dipshit. That's Scat.


b40505  No.15852197

>>15844663

Unlike FO3 NV has Sights that work


dd4c90  No.15853495

>>15850815

Only during E3. He never appears literally anywhere else, sometimes for a whole year when he's working on a game, except for one or two quick developer interviews.


656716  No.15853653

https://youtu.be/J3cRpYGVPsU

you can all relax. you got this shit now, it will be just as awful, buggy as fuck but praised to be so much better even it reeks of pinko stronk lesbism and niggers. enjoy the mashing up of every game into a shitty abomination f76 style shoota because thats what gaymers want right.


656716  No.15853696

>>15853653

oh, and no desperate fallout setting so i'm good with my modded nv. hard pass on this aids.


e638a8  No.15858285

>>15808231

>>15808231

>Blog posting about how you love Bethesda games

How on earth did you even find this site?


7adbed  No.15859515

File: a76e34386431ebb⋯.jpg (536.56 KB, 802x2500, 401:1250, FbzqVtJ.jpg)

shittymax and jewthesda will kill itself off, no worries. they are the best at killing themselves.


b2acc4  No.15859594

>>15859515

On the bright side, all the shitstorm has incentivized me to go back and have another New Vegas playthrough.




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