1867a1 No.15770457
Fuck it, let's talk about CRTs again. what kind of tube are you guys using for your retro games? Have you ever attempted to do repairs on one? I've heard it can kill you.
5c9c68 No.15770473
Where do I get that sex doll?
4a7f0d No.15770474
it can only kill you if you're licking the gun like some faggot
1867a1 No.15770479
>>15770478
Can't play lightgun games without one.
9be181 No.15770488
>>15770484
That last image is actually misleading. Only some PC CRTs had dots like that. Trinitrons (most upper end CRTs) where square because of aperture grill.
8d4f70 No.15770588
>>15770457
What the heck is wrong with her ears?
8d4f70 No.15770598
>>15770480
The LCD wolfman looks so damn goofy.
>People will still argue retro games were meant to be played on LCD
838bfd No.15770599
The fuck is with her ears?
f1f608 No.15770605
>>15770588
They're kinda cute.
838bfd No.15770615
>>15770605
It's really uncanny.
8d4f70 No.15770630
>>15770619
>crt buyfags
Did you steal your LCD? I should've figured that LCDfags were niggers, it explains a lot.
40b9aa No.15770646
>>15770630
T-they fell from a truck, officer.
50860f No.15770657
I use a CRT monitor for a second screen for my PC. It looks fantastic with tiling window manager and resource monitors. And then you can use it as needed for other things.
50684b No.15770659
>>15770615
>>15770605
Goblins exist, you know.
They're the size of a loli for a life time
838bfd No.15770668
>>15770659
Nigger, real life isn't Tolken.
Unless you're talking about kikes, then why the hell would you fuck them?
50684b No.15770670
>>15770668
pure breeds stay cute and small
40b9aa No.15770695
>>15770605
I feel like the fossa should follow the silicon curve. I looks like a chunk of cartilage.
421d98 No.15772219
>>15770619
>>15770630
How embarassing, they deleted it
ed92d9 No.15772237
>>15770695
what else would reasonable be in a pointed ear like that?
3a4d54 No.15772255
>>15770457
That isn't the pad you use to play Ogre Battle. The joystick is far superior for moving units around than the stop-go of the D-pad.
e3982d No.15772270
>>15770457
>what kind of tube are you guys using for your retro games?
An LG flatron. It's 10 times better than my trinitron which now lives in my cupboard unplugged.
Do no fall for the aperture grille meme, lads.
5c5550 No.15772488
>>15770457
>what kind of tube are you guys using for your retro games?
20-inch Sony Trinitron PVM. Remember kids, you don't have to get a PVM, but getting your hands on a Trinitron or at least a knock off (look for the "tron" suffix, not a lot of these as Sony held the patent for a while) is suggested as they are a different type of technology from most CRTs that results in a brighter cleaner picture. Note that OP's picture is a Trinitron PVM.
1f2ffc No.15772493
>>15770588
In case you didn't realize, that is one of those expensive dolls that only high-falutin' perverts can afford.
5c5550 No.15772495
>>15772270
>Flatron
<Implying it's not the same design as the Trinitron
5c5550 No.15772499
>>15772270
also:
>flat CRTs
3669f4 No.15772621
>>15772488
>taking a picture of a CRT
>acting like that is the same as looking at it
toplel
5c5550 No.15772648
>>15772621
And? For a picture taken with my shitty phone it still looks better than the other shots. It doesn't convey how much better it really looks though, you're right there.
0c47f2 No.15772727
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>>15772621
With proper settings it's easy to get pretty close. Very hard to recreate it entirely but it's not impossible to get good results.
>>15772270
>>15772499
flat CRTs are fine as are aperture grilles (flatron is also an aperture grille.) Flat CRTs can be pretty bad, Sony's consumer flat CRTs are notorious for their geometry issues and convergence, but other brands did fare better. I prefer curved tubes overall as well as shadowmasks but I am currently using a JVC flat multiformat AG tube in a Panasonic chassis
50fa05 No.15772748
>>15772682
>When you come home and you find a couple of Real Dolls have broken into your house and are playing your video games.
0c47f2 No.15773634
>>15772748
tfw no saturn girl to come home to playing on your PVMs
abcb04 No.15773680
>>15772682
>even when buying real dolls he cant get a white girl.
4d1d5a No.15774701
>>15770457
>I've heard it can kill you.
Only if you're an idiot. Watch videos on CRT work, and you'll see multiple safe methods of handling them.
I just have a Sanyo 20-some inch CRT television. Not super great, but I didn't acquire it for perfection.
ccb1a5 No.15776610
>>15772727
Who's that slut in the first pic?
15edd7 No.15776641
>games designed around the flaws of CRT don't look good on displays that no longer have said flaws
What a revelation. Wake me up when you take into account latency, power consumption, and mass.
c533d1 No.15777162
What do you guys think about Framemeisters and the like?
0c47f2 No.15777202
>>15776664
>Enjoy suck
Someone's mad
>>15776610
I forgot, some artist I follow.
>>15777162
Useful for some, not for me. They do a good job of delivering a low resolution image with a lot of clarity to a high resolution display but will not recreate the way the games are supposed to look. You can see what I mean in this comparison: >>15770480. As you can see the LCD image is very clear but without the inherent traits of the CRTs phosphors igniting unevenly the image appears flat, blocky and in some cases goofy. The wolf man is a great example, looking fierce and very detailed with wrinkles in the clothing and glaring white eyes. In the LCD upscale it looks flat, black splotches making the tunic look amateurishly drawn and the face looking like something outside of scooby doo.
5c5550 No.15777371
>>15777162
As someone who owns a Framemeister and recently bought a PVM: Upscalers are inferior and only really handy if you want to capture footage for playback to normalfags. The core problem is that while these items may do some nice things to the picture, displaying them on an HDTV introduces display lag which you may not notice, but your brain does. When playing old games display lag can be a serious issue, more so if the game is action oriented often requiring changing around of strategies to deal with the lag. Also OSSC and the Framemeister both lose the image on resolution changes so if you want to use them with a Sega Saturn or to play say Silent Hill on the PS1 it's going to be a shitty time while you wait sometimes up to 3 seconds for the screen to come back in after a resolution change vs any CRT handling it as though nothing happened and just displaying the image. My Framemeister served me well, but once you take the CRTpill you will never go back, I'd say don't waste your money on upscaling and just get a good condition PVM if you really care about picture quality.
As a side note: having personally compared a Framemeister upscaling the image of a game to my PVM just displaying it at it's original resolution I'd claim the PVM looks far better.
0c47f2 No.15777402
>>15777371
>display lag which you may not notice, but your brain does
The most common example is the first platforming challenge in Gutsman Stage from Mega Man. If you play arcade style games it does hurt to not have the exact moment of the game shown.
5c5550 No.15777420
>>15777402
>If you play arcade style games it does hurt to not have the exact moment of the game shown.
Yep, it's kind of like playing with training weights on; everything is just a little bit harder than it should be to time just right.
838bfd No.15777443
If CRT's are so great then why there barely any being produced today over LCD/LED screens? Why would you deliberately get something that has harmful effects against your eyes?
4a7f0d No.15777454
>>15777443
>Why would you deliberately get something that has harmful effects against your eyes?
e-ink displays should have taken over :–DDD
5c5550 No.15777476
>>15777443
>Why would you deliberately get something that has harmful effects against your eyes?
This is an old wives tale unless you're sitting right in front of the screen.
>If CRT's are so great then why there barely any being produced today over LCD/LED screens?
Because LCDs/LEDs are better for modern resolutions and can be made larger at a cheaper price. Some people in this thread may feel CRTs are outright superior in every way, but me personally I just feel they're better for 240p/480i systems and a few of the 480p/720p systems. Basically: CRTs are good for games made in the era where games were being designed with them in mind. That said, you really can't beat no display lag.
e0f796 No.15777481
>>15777443
CRTs are often large and bulky. Larger screens mean larger tubes which, in the end, means they are often very heavy. LCD/LED displays are very thin and even the largest displays aren't real heavy, just bulky due to their size. They're also much easier and cheaper to mass produce than CRTs
5c5550 No.15777541
>>15776664
>My shitposting is b-banter
838bfd No.15777550
>>15777454
>e-ink displays should have taken over :–DDD
This, honestly. Imagine how comfy that would be.
d75168 No.15777552
>>15770480
Can't you get similar results to the CRT images by using an OSSC with a meme line filter on an OLED display?
0c47f2 No.15777555
5c5550 No.15777563
>>15777552
Sadly the OSSC and Framemeister's scanline generators don't turn the image in to beams of light, it basically just adds lines to the image. Here is the Framemeister's scanlines. Not great as you can see.
c533d1 No.15777581
>>15777202
>>15777371
Thanks for the responses. Guess I'll use the money for a PVM, or if I'm lucky, a BVM. Speaking of, where and how do you get one? I remember someone explaining how to get hospital monitors not what I'm aiming for but it might help others if that anon reposted it but I'm not sure how much of it applies for going to, say, a TV station and asking if they have any old monitors.
d75168 No.15777582
>>15777555 (checked)
What do you recommend then for people who want to use original hardware but don't have access to (or the room for) any sort of larger CRT? All I have is a little 9" Panasonic an Anon sent me awhile back. It looks amazing, but to make use of it I have to have it on my desk, but because space is limited I can't have more tan one system hooked up to it at once. Really gets in the way of me enjoying it to its fullest potential. I just want all my shit hooked up and at the ready at all times on a single display without sacrificing quality. This shouldn't be so hard.
>>15777563
That does look pretty shitty.
0c47f2 No.15777588
>>15777582
>any sort of larger CRT?
Get a slightly bigger one? Most pro monitors are nicely compacted and fit fine into tight environments. I have a 17" one on my desk that is 18"x15"x13" and have it sat at an angle and there's still plenty of space for other things. No angles or anything to throw storing it off.
5c5550 No.15777601
>>15777581
I suggest hunting locally, TV stations are a good idea, and medical places will sometimes have the same monitors so they're worth checking to. Also personal ads. Depending on where you live you may have a ton around you (say if you live in California), and if you live in the middle of nowhere you can always pay the ebay tax just make sure you get a good seller who is experienced and will package it well. 100% your best bet though is to look locally because then you can really get a feel for the set before you buy it.
>>15777582
Sounds like you just need a switcher that can run all your systems through one chord on to your CRT. Depending on what cords you use there are plenty of options out there but that's how I run my 11 consoles to my set.
eae84d No.15777614
>>15777563
Imagine actually paying for that. Yikes.
8945ec No.15777616
>>15777582
>any sort of larger CRT?
I wonder if OLED VR headsets would be visually comparable to crt with their low persistence, relatively high framerate and good contrast ratios.
5c5550 No.15777624
>>15777614
It was worth it just because it woke me up to the fact that scanlines would help, which eventually led me to looking at CRTs. Plus a framemeister is still the best way to capture to computer at the moment. That said if I knew what I know now you're 100% right I wouldn't have spent any money on upscaling.
eae84d No.15777659
>>15777624
At least you didn't end up like this ( http://archive.is/zfrm3) , circlejerking over a hideous memeline overlay.
0c47f2 No.15777672
>>15777659
I like the glare in my photos because it gives a simple visual orientation point and doesn't dominate half the image. I hate this golems photos.
eae84d No.15777679
>>15777672
Handsome tv, anon.
5c5550 No.15777682
>>15777659
>tfw your browser won't let you access archive.is because of (((unsupported protocols)))
eae84d No.15777691
>>15777682
Prepare for severe post-purchase rationalization and mental illness.
http://www.neo-geo.com/forums/showthread.php?242038-XRGB-mini-photos-(or-how-I-learned-to-let-go-of-my-CRT-and-I-am-better-off
9be181 No.15777711
>>15777614
They probably could recreate it with effort, but they'd have to drop down to 640x480 or 320x240. I honestly doubt they'd ever do that because emufags always want to run their games made in the 90s at 4k or 1080p for some reason.
5c5550 No.15777732
>>15777691
Yep, he seems in pretty deep denial about the display lag. Really the framemeister's big weaknesses are with the sometimes weird off-spec signals old systems can send. For example here's a screenshot of the jailbars my Sega Saturn would get, which by the way same system over the same cable to my PVM doesn't display these bars; they're purely a side effect of how the framemeister handles the weird resolution the Saturn puts out. And again, upscalers are fucked on resolution changes which can really break some games from the PS1/N64/Saturn era but at the very least is annoying in the games that switch resolutions, plus it takes away the boot up screens of a lot of systems. Overall, paying over 300 for an upscaler is insanity when you could put that toward a PVM, BVM, or just get a good Trinitron CRT for less than that.
0c47f2 No.15777735
>>15777711
The only way to make the image look good on an LCD is to have it output at the native resolution of the panel. There's a lot of problems with this. Of course when it comes to old games it's a series of concessions and compromises. Blow up the image to make it look normal on the display, sharp as hell and revealing details that would otherwise be hidden by a low resolution. 2D assets of which there are many in every game even today get stretched to fit, typically exposing ugly edge artifacting that on a CRT or lower resolution would help that element pop in a unique way or give a unique quality, or possibly to have it appear as a 3D object despite being 2D.
The series of compromises goes on and on, it's a headache. Then you get to the point where you could emulate things perfectly fine 15 years ago on mid-range hardware but in an effort to recreate a faithful experience, you have several hundreds of dollars on a high end machine to run shader effects and post processing to make the image appear more accurate where many details need to be tweaked. It comes off as a real headache to me when I can just get a perfectly fine experience with the real hardware.
eae84d No.15777758
>>15777711
You can do some interesting things at 4k with shaders. I don't see why they couldn't just build in some preset shader stacks on those overpriced scaler boxes instead of that lazy fucking line blanking overlay. Obviously nowhere near as good as a nice CRT, but magnitudes better than what they're currently offering.
f94dcb No.15778147
>>15772493
I want one. Not so I can fuck it but so I can dress it up. Girls only want to wear boring shit like sweatpants, even the hot ones.
0c47f2 No.15778277
close ups always come out so nice.
838bfd No.15778291
>>15772621
How the fuck can you record the image of a CRT then? I think you're a shill.
0aa877 No.15778322
>>15778291
You can't.
He's right, your camera will NEVER be the same as the human eye.
0a90fc No.15778389
i want to get a yuge crt for my light gun games. like a 40" but my little weak babby arms cant lift it. also no friends. what do?
also: flat or curved tube? whats better. does it matter. dont newer trinitrons have input delay?
c079f9 No.15778437
>>15774701
>I just have a Sanyo 20-some inch CRT television
Like the one I have on the left? It's a 20" 480i with component inputs and it looks so gorgeous.
5c5550 No.15778446
>>15778389
>what do?
Get ready to pay movers
>flat or curved?
I vote curved personally
>dont newer trinitrons have input delay?
If the set is an "HD CRT" or "ED" then it probably will have issues with 240p games, maybe not input delay or display lag (though maybe if they have to process the image to digital) but they may think the 240p signal is 480i which will do ugly shit. Suggest avoiding ED tvs for sure, and researching HD CRTs deeper before jumping on one.
b7f0df No.15778452
>>15778437
>ak74u
Fucking slavshit Your name wouldn't happen to be Ryan, would it? Because that is a very oddly familiar room
c079f9 No.15778465
>>15778446
>If the set is an "HD CRT" or "ED" then it probably will have issues…
I think that's just a myth. I doubt many people have ever used an HD CRT. My big one here >>15778437 is a Toshiba 32HF73 that does 720p/1080i and I get no noticeable input lag over my SD CRT and no visual issues. Not even close to comparable to how shitty it is to play on LCDs.
0c47f2 No.15778494
>>15778465
Most consumer HD CRTs do not appear to have issues despite upscaling the image. I've seen plenty of tests with them that show they mostly work fine. Some do have issues and all of them do process the image so something like 240p gets butchered. They really aren't worth it unless you're big into media on CRTs - I'm mostly in it for games.
There's very little additional lag if any to the point where light guns will indeed work.
a824b0 No.15778498
Why is everyone felating n64 when it got crushed by psone, was proto nogames station and out of those barely a dozen or so were memorable?
Not even trying to start console war, just explain this phenomenon to me please.
0c47f2 No.15778519
>>15778498
Nostalgia and it did have good games, just not a lot of good games. If it was all you had and you got like 2-4 games per year as kid with it you'd be plenty happy with it (birthday/christmas.) Maybe a rental here and there. These days where you've probably played 60-90% of those games on the N64 that are "worth it" it becomes a lot less appealing and you want to see more systems like the PS1 where everywhere you look there's something odd, incredible, unique, tremendous whatever and you've got a new game to fall in love with. There's surprises around every corner with a system like Saturn, but the N64 people generally know everything on the console and there's little to actually discuss.
I think it's inoffensive ultimately, let normalfags have their nostalgia console. No reason to ruin their fun but if they're interested invite them to learn more about what's going on with its competitors.
c079f9 No.15778538
>>15778494
240p games look great on mine. I've played a bunch of Star Fox and FFII. Guncon doesn't work though.
>>15778519
Playstation was too underpowered to do good 3D games. N64 had just enough power to do interesting stuff.
5c5550 No.15778545
>>15778498
Surprisingly "winning" the console war actually doesn't mean shit and people just fondly remember the systems they had. Personally I had all 3 that generation and look back on all of them with fondness.
0c47f2 No.15778571
>>15778538
>Playstation was too underpowered to do good 3D games
Strongly disagree. It had more better looking and faster 3D games than both the N64 and Saturn. Devs spent a lot of time getting the most out of the system and Sony was constantly getting developers new techniques to get more advanced effects going on.
>Guncon doesn't work though.
They're just weird it seems. Sometimes those things work, sometimes they don't. I've seen some tricks with things like the XBR960 Wega's DRC I think it's called where instead of upsampling 240p/480i to 1080i it makes it 540p which no doubt looks a lot more appealing.
d9bc2c No.15778583
>>15778437
where is the dildos
abcb04 No.15778593
>>15778498
having 4 controller ports and fun multiplayer games before online was a thing for consoles. Most of the kids at school had playstations but would come over to play mario kart and goldeneye.
c079f9 No.15778617
>>15778571
> It had more better looking and faster 3D games than both the N64 and Saturn.
>buildings are 5 wobbling jpegs
I just realized that I'm talking to an idiot. There are no PS1 games that can visually compare to things like Rogue Squadron, Shadows of the Empire, Jet Force Gemini, GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, etc.
I can tell your bias is affecting you. I love some PS1 games, and the 2D stuff can be beautiful, but it looks like garbage compared to even N64 shovelware. And every mildly intensive 3D game was lucky to hit 25fps.
0c47f2 No.15778649
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>>15778617
>And every mildly intensive 3D game was lucky to hit 25fps.
5 fps higher than the average n64 game.
d75168 No.15778707
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>>15778617
I don't like Sony at all, but you're being a faggot. PS1 had more beautiful 3D games from that gen than the Saturn (2D King of the gen) or the N64.
Give me one N64 game that surpasses Spyro's aesthetic.
eae84d No.15778718
>>15778707
BK, but only just barely. I'd put both in the top 5 collectathons of all time.
abcb04 No.15778762
>>15778707
I always liked the look of diddy kong racing
f1789b No.15779141
>>15777758
>2637x2016
>LCD
>emulation
Absolutely disgusting.
875e0e No.15779152
>>15770457
>buy my electronic trash and get eye cancer goy
95ca45 No.15779211
>>15772488
>that inane image
Bottom right is about what it always looked like, as I pointed out the first time you trotted that out. With 2D games shackled to fixed-rez assets at least 480i CRT is an arguable option compared to upscaling, but there's no particular reason to ever play 3D games at low rez.
What's wrong with you console fetishists, would you play Quake at 320x200 SW rendered just because that's all the 486 you originally played it on could do?
>>15772495
It isn't, it uses slot mask, like some late NEC tubes also did.
>>15772499
They really are the best of both worlds
>>15777552
All OLED TVs suffer from unnecessary lag (and other problems) due to the control chipsets they inherited LCDs. Until a dedicated PC gayman OLED comes out, CRT is your best option.
>>15777443
>LED screens
>being produced
Wake me up when MicroLED finally happens
>>15778291
This is actually a somewhat interesting subject, as perfect looking photos of CRTs can only be taken using a shutter speed of 1/2 the scan rate, genlocked to the video source.
>>15778389
>dont newer trinitrons have input delay?
It depends on the model. Dead givaway is if it has digital inputs, though even some models with exclusively analog inputs still go analog-digital-analog.
>>15778617
The problem with PSX wasn't its being underpowered, as it was IMHO reasonably spec'd for 1994. The problem was its insane lifespan. PS2 should've shipped in 1998, but instead exclusives and multiplats alike continued to be hobbled by the PSX millstone well into the early 2000s.
1867a1 No.15779281
>Free tube TV locally
>Ask if they feel like dropping it off since they're so close
>Say they'll drop it off at my place monday
>Hey anon, someone picked it up today on saturday so this isn't available anymore
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NOT JUST TELL ME TO PICK IT UP THEN?
6f8f92 No.15779297
>>15779281
Just find a Buy, Swap and Sell group online and buy one you fag.
They'll be cheap as fuck.
6f8f92 No.15779299
>>15778762
This is a completely correct and true statement that only Sonyggers would dare refute.
02f0c0 No.15779302
>>15779141
>>15777758
>dat composite blur
No longer necessary my dudes. we can have RGB video quality and composite style transparency (Dithering shader) effects on a high end crt. (SoR2 shots from a pvm20L5 crt, sonic is direct capture from RA)
8a3f5d No.15779306
>>15779281
Nigga if it's free they were just trying to get rid of it, why bring it to your place when someone else is willing to come pick it up saving them time and effort?
6f8f92 No.15779309
>>15779306
$20 says he's an autistic sperg with no car/license/underage and couldn't pick it up even if he wanted to.
1867a1 No.15779333
>>15779306
>>15779309
I could have just went & picked it up. The guy was like a mile away, that's why this pisses me off so much about this. If he had told me someone else was interested, OR I wasn't so lazy to just get in my car & pick it up I'd have a new tube tv right now. I fucked up.
561c7a No.15779334
>>15772682
The uncanny valley is fascinating. It only takes a second to look at someone's face even in a picture to be able to see if something has a soul or not. Even though they put a lot of effort in attempting to subvert reality it just doesn't work.
02f0c0 No.15779335
thats not what a Framemeister or OSSC look like at all (have you never seen one in person?), here are some OSSC shots.
02f0c0 No.15779343
>>15779335
forgot to mention, thats from a much older version of the frimware. the custom scanlines look even better/more crt like now. (I just need to spend a day taking pics)
6f8f92 No.15779355
>>15779333 (Checked)
Then like you said, you fucked up.
But like I said, go get one from a BSS group like Craigslist or Facebook or something. There's bound to be tons of them going for cheap.
89fccc No.15779362
Why is there no firmware/software level fan-patch to make 120hz ULMB black frame insertion so we can have non blurry 60fps gameplay? Is it b3cause strobing software is locked in gsync code? What about freesync monitors? It can't be that hard. Emulators like mame have BFI but 1% of 60fps games are mame.
02f0c0 No.15779371
>>15770480
what game is this?
1a98d0 No.15779493
>>15778571
I tried searching the names in this and didn't find anything. That game looks like MML and I want to know what it is so bad. Help?
02f0c0 No.15779503
>>15779493
the game is pop'n tanks for ps1
65312a No.15779513
>>15779335
How do you people put up with the fact the screen gets dark as fuck? effectively reducing brightness by a half, crt's used to lightbleed, on top of being super bright, which made empty lines not have such an impact, also i can't live with bad dithering, it triggers my ocd knowing some dots could have been a smooth continuous color.
02f0c0 No.15779531
>>15779513
you can get rid of dithering with shaders or game patches. as far brightness goes it depends on your screens light reserves and what type of scanlines you use, hybrid scanlines have solved most of the brightness issues if your TV/monitor can't get bright enough to componstae for normal scanlines. using a half-pixel high scanline pattern can also make a big difference (2x, 3x, 5x, et cetera) but I would give hybrid scanlines a shot if you're having problems. (my TV is crazy bright so it's not a problem for me).
1af823 No.15779564
So how many dollarydoos do you have to drop to not make a CRT look like it had vaseline rubbed on it? I find CRTs unusable because it makes me think my eyes are fucked.
1a98d0 No.15779571
>>15779564
You can probably find a "high end" CRT on the used market.
Quite frankly, CRT monitors always looked better to me than TVs, even for 480i.
>I find CRTs unusable because it makes me think my eyes are fucked.
Maybe you just don't like the CRT look.
Look at >>15770480 and tell me, isn't it just blurrier, darker and full of noise to hide the details?
02f0c0 No.15779578
>>15779564
>I find CRTs unusable because it makes me think my eyes are fucked.
stop using composite cables (use s-video at the very least), and don't play anything in 480i if you can help it for first few months until your eyes are retrained to stop noticing 60hz flicker.
1af823 No.15779579
>>15779571
Add more blur and color bleed to that and maybe you'll be closer to how every single CRT I've ever used looks like. It's part of why I got into emulation despite having several consoles - because I only had CRTs for the longest time and everything, especially PS1/PS2 games looked like shit on it.
0c47f2 No.15779583
>>15779371
Wizardry
>>15779564
not a lot, just don't buy chink shit. Toshiba, JVC, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Sony, NEC all made quality consumer sets.
02f0c0 No.15779590
>>15779583
>Wizardry
for the NES?
0c47f2 No.15779593
>>15779590
more specifically famicom but yeah
395ded No.15779622
>>15777202
> forgot, some artist I follow
Maybe you can post the actual image so I could reverse-search it. I need it because reasons.
95ca45 No.15779631
>>15779564
I'd say <$15 for anything average (TV or monitor) you pick up at a secondhand store, electronics recycler, last chance at the dump, etc. <$50 for something unusually good, like a aperture grille TV or 21" PC monitor. And <$150 for something truly exceptional, like a 24" FD Trinitron.
>>15779571
>CRT monitors always looked better to me than TVs
No shit. RGB (with separate pins for each sync and ground!) is going to blow away practically any TV connection short of some extremely exotic European SCART sets. Combined with their sharp 640x480 and up resolution, even the cheapest PC CRT is miles better than any but a handful of SD CRT TVs.
That said, since all <4th-gen console games, nearly all 5th-gen ones, and most contemporary (mid-90s and earlier) PC games never went above a pixel-doubled 320x240 framebuffer, a trashy SDTV CRT's effective resolution actually is more than sufficient for such games.
395ded No.15779687
>>15779646
Awesome. Thanks.
5c5550 No.15780364
>>15779211
>bottom right is about what it always looked like
Why would you just go on the internet and lie like that?
>there's no particular reason to ever play 3D games at low rez
Except when they were made in low rez emufag.
95ca45 No.15780376
>>15780364
>lie
>made in
Read the filename
5c5550 No.15780381
>>15779335
Uhh, that is what a Framemeister looks like, the pictures I posted are literally shots taken from it. And TBH OSSCs scanlines don't look much better.
5c5550 No.15780384
>>15780376
>bare digital screenshot
Because I'm sure that's how sets at the time displayed it, jesus you're a newfag.
95ca45 No.15780396
>>15780384
>sets
Read the filename again
5c5550 No.15780400
>>15780396
<durr, windows PCs weren't displayed through CRTs or anything
<durr, the PC port is how it was supposed to look
Well it looks like trash nigger so maybe get some taste.
95ca45 No.15780416
>>15780400
>not having a crt plugged in for vidya and movies
>not playing on the best platform
5c5550 No.15780432
>>15780416
>implying I don't have a gaming pc hooked up to a CRT
>not also having original hardware to play classic games on for maximum accuracy
Emuniggers always think they're on top, but really they're always at the bottom. Enjoy your shit ports and (((filters)))
c4f0bf No.15780437
9be181 No.15780441
>>15779513
Because CRTs can actually display dark colors, unlike LCDs which are bright as day to the point where it effects how you sleep.
593679 No.15780475
>>15780441
>Because CRTs can actually display dark colors, unlike LCDs which are bright as day to the point where it effects how you sleep
You'd sleep even more poorly if you held up a CRT a feet away from your face in your bed for half an hour before sleeping. On the other hand you'd get /fit/ real quick.
seriously now, OLEDs are bringing back some of the CRT features. like burn-in
9be181 No.15780494
>>15780475
What even is this post
c37aea No.15780501
>>15780441
>oy vey i have all this outdated shit that gives you retinal cancer
>oh i know i will trick the filthy goyim to buy it
>this post
Kill yourself jew
95ca45 No.15780510
>>15780432
>accuracy
To what? The game was written on SGI workstations, the in-house PC version every subsequent port is based on shipped a year afterward, and the fully modded modern PC version is superior in nearly every way.
>filters
Like running infinite resolution 3D games at 320x240 through i-scan memelines?
I doubt you'd make the same statement about running old PC games like Descent or X-Wing at HD resolutions, just because most people had to play them at 320x240 back in the day.
c4f0bf No.15780514
>>15780501
why retinal, why not anything else to prove whatever the hell your talking about? i dont even know.
>>15780441
yea lcds i hate them. i sit with one to my side a laptop sometimes while i sit down at my computer and CRT. the damn laptop makes me blind and i have to turn it sideways and ist still bothers me. i sleep with my crt showing movies. lcds just suck. i turn them away when im done with one. usually or try.
c37aea No.15780530
>>15780514
>probably bought cheapest laptop he could find
>haha those lcds suck goy just buy my electronic trash instead only 7000$ for you m'goy
>>>/reddit/
838bfd No.15780543
>>15780494
Blue light from displays keeps you up and induces more in-sleep rustling.
95ca45 No.15780558
>>15780514
Tip to make most LCDs much less agonizing: You may have one with PWM dimming, to test this, wave your fingers rapidly in front of the screen while adjusting its brightness (in the LCD's OST, not on your computer's software). If instead of motion blur, you can see distinct stroboscopic images of your fingers, try adjusting it to 50% brightness and 100% brightness.
If either of those settings eliminate the stroboscopic effect, keep it there, and adjust brightness in software to compensate.
9be181 No.15780560
>>15780510
>I doubt you'd make the same statement about running old PC games like Descent or X-Wing at HD resolutions, just because most people had to play them at 320x240 back in the day.
Pretty much all PC games from the CRT era are significantly better at low resolutions, because you don't notice the jagged edges in polygons, the fucked up lighting, the jarring contrast between high detail models on low resolution background textures, etc. Only exceptions are things like Quake which where programmed on a 16:9 $10,000 CRT.
8c2101 No.15780565
>>15779152
>>15780501
>jews are pushing CRTs
>implying it's not the opposite with companies going out of their way to find and destroy CRTs to drive up prices and otherwise drive them out of the market
838bfd No.15780569
>>15780560
>Only exceptions are things like Quake which where programmed on a 16:9 $10,000 CRT
You may not like it, but this is what peak tech performance looks like.
9be181 No.15780582
>>15780569
Why wouldn't I like it? Like I said that was the exception. Most games where designed on regular office monitors or PVMs.
c4f0bf No.15780588
>>15780530
>huhuh wow mines just better
fuck you
c4f0bf No.15780594
>>15780558
i dont really care. its HOW it works. a crt uses a beam that makes a sheet of phosphorus GLOW. not a fucking bulb glowing right in your face.
learn some fuckign science, some engineering and stfu.
c37aea No.15780601
>>15780588
>cuck who thought he can cheap out on electronics is now mad at everything but his own retarded self
>>15780565
>jews are not pushing CRTs to sell dangerous electronics considered trash by all to white people
>implying jews dont want all whites to be myopic
921ba1 No.15780608
>>15779302
>No longer necessary
But the color bleed is best thing about it.
95ca45 No.15780612
>>15780582
"Regular office monitors" went up to SXGA for 19" throughout the 90s, UXGA for 21" from the mid-90s, and this was reflected in support for such resolutions in a great many software rendered (since Wintel/Mac fixed-function 3D accelerators lacked the power or VRAM to handle such resolutions) 3D games throughout the period.
5c5550 No.15780726
>>15780510
>shitty PC port is superior in nearly every way
Then why does it look like shit? And that's in battle, I bet the static backgrounds look like garbage. Inb4 "FFVII just looks bad!"
>accuracy To what?
To all the game consoles that you fail to emulate properly. I wasn't talking about FFVII with that line bucko, though PC ports from the 90's were notoriously shitty so I doubt your claim that the PC port of FFVII is anything other than a turd.
>I doubt you'd make the same statement about running old PC games like Descent or X-Wing at HD resolutions
Well you'd be wrong faggot. Through a CRT ("memelines" and all, btw anyone who uses the term "memelines" is a goon) at the resolution it was likely designed in.
d6ff12 No.15780791
>Using some shitty as TV from the 90's
>Not using a modern TV
>Caring about muh imput lag when it really doesn't even matter
>Muh scanlines
You guys are the biggest faggots i have seen on this board in a while. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Also
>Playing retro games
Faggots, still
The only good "retro" games are Sonic 2 and Sonic 3D Blast, which i both play on my Playstation 3. No need to go out of my way and buy a CRT TV and some shitty old console with shit controls when i have it all right here on a nice TV
Fuck you all
5c5550 No.15780795
>>15780510
also:
>FFVII's pc port is the original intended vision
<wasn't even made by Squaresoft
<ported by (((Eidos)))
d6ff12 No.15780833
>>15780810
Good. Fuck you and your shitty old games that fucking suck ass in comparison to newer games.
>muh nostalgia
Take off those rose tinted glasses you double nigger and step back and see how shitty your games are.
b3f528 No.15780836
>>15776664
based, anybody disagreeing with this post is a butthurt faggot
40b9aa No.15780859
9be181 No.15780868
>>15780612
> this was reflected in support for such resolutions in a great many 3D games throughout the period.
I take that with a massive grain of salt. All dos games like dungeon keeper capped out at 640x480, but dungeon keeper is by default is 320x240 and looks better at it. Most games capped out at 1024x768 without fan patching, but nowadays they're all thrown on gog modded out the ass to support modern systems. I mean we can speculate all day, but honestly when I play an older 3d game at 640x480 everything seems to just work. All the flat polygons with shadows added int he textures to give it fake depth are actually convincing. If you disagree that's up to you really.
d6ff12 No.15780874
>>15780849
>Telling me to get a life when i fucking blew your shitty CRT crap out of the water with my argument
How assblasted are you?
bb86f0 No.15780875
>>15780791
One day all of the modern TVs/monitors will have botnet wifi/bluetooth/gps/cellular/onstar built in and the only escape will be old technology.
9be181 No.15780876
>>15776664
Sperging out and 1-and done shitposting in threads you don't like is top quality banter, at least in cuckchanners eyes.
65312a No.15780885
>>15770473
A) Live in Japan
or
B) Order doll from Japan & have it seized by customs and a subpoena for attempting to import "cp"
95ca45 No.15780912
>>15780726
>why does it look like shit
As opposed to affine warped unfiltered textures on jaggy models with misaligned polygons
>static backgrounds
That's no worse than games like System Shock mixing sharp level geometry with great big pixelated sprites & textures
>the resolution it was likely designed in
3D games don't have a resolution.
>>15780795
No, it was indeed made by Squaresoft, and merely published by Eidos.
>>15780868
I'll admit some games hold do up better under scrutiny than others. Also, since I was mostly a Mac user back in the day, I grew up accustomed to native high resolution or upscaling in ports.
d6ff12 No.15780925
>>15780875
I got my PS3 in 2014, and it came with a…i actually can't tell the exact model of TV, but whatever. It has SONY in big bold letters near the speakers on the bottom. Anyways, what is wrong with those things?
d6ff12 No.15780929
>>15780925
Correction, i meant to say it has VIZIO on the speakers, not SONY
838bfd No.15780934
>>15780885
Jap girls are practically dolls anyway. Most of them cake on make up.
d6ff12 No.15780944
This is the one i have
Vizio Razor E220VA 22" 1080p HD LED LCD Television
Looks like this
bb86f0 No.15780948
>>15780934
3DPD is PD, the actual dolls are far better in this situation.
5c5550 No.15780976
>>15780912
>No, it was indeed made by Squaresoft, and merely published by Eidos.
So you're right, but it wasn't made by the original team, it was developed by Square's Costa Mesa offices, which had to rewrite an estimated 80% of the games code. Sure sounds like the original vision there.
>As opposed to affine warped unfiltered textures on jaggy models with misaligned polygons
Funny, I don't notice those issues at 240p. It just looks good where your version looks like shit
>it's okay the way I display it makes the static backgrounds look like shit because other games I play look like shit too!
Wow.
>3D games don't have a resolution (they were designed in)
Confirmed retard.
95ca45 No.15781015
>>15780934
>those yaiba
>>15780976
>I don't notice those issues at 240p
Every N64 owner was laughing about it back in the day in spite of both systems running in the same modes inb4 Vaseline postprocessing
5c5550 No.15781031
>>15781015
I'd rather have the Playstation's slightly off polygons than all the downsides that come with playing a rushed port at an ugly upscaled resolution. Just because it was consolewar bait back in the 90's doesn't mean it really looks that bad or noticeable when you don't blow it up to 1000x it's native resolution.
1d23c2 No.15781032
>>15780934
That goes for most women.
838bfd No.15781041
>>15781015
>>15780948
>>15781032
Maybe in amerimuttistan, but in rural yurop there's great amount of girls that aren't whores.
d75168 No.15781044
>>15780944
What a piece of shit TV.
bb86f0 No.15781047
>>15781041
See I would have been inclined to believe you if not for the fact that European women continue to accept refugees with open legs.
838bfd No.15781059
>>15781047
Maybe in france, but in balts and north ukraine/belarus they're nice.
95ca45 No.15781074
>>15781059
>wanting proto-babushkas whose beauty evaporates at a stroke in middle age
1867a1 No.15781288
>>15780875
The second I found out modern TVs are basically giant smartphones I decided I would ever own one.
f72f19 No.15781419
>>15780944
>22" television
5c5550 No.15781440
>>15781288
That's a beautiful set. Love the color, style, and the side facing SCART port.
89fccc No.15781628
>>15780441
FALD 364 dot technology, leds now have good contrast ratio. About 30,000 instead of 1,000. Only 1 monitor exists with it currently, that 144hz 4k asus/acer pguQ whatever.
0c47f2 No.15781976
>>15780569
I talked to a guy who worked at Integraph in the early 90s to mid 2000s and he said that monitor is from no earlier than 1998 and was only seen in a making of doom 3 documentary.
>>15781288
I have the PVM variant of this set, I just got it because it wasn't very expensive and has a cool look to it, plus RGB.
593679 No.15782051
>>15781654
Is that as flat as it looks? It looks awesome.
9be181 No.15782075
>>15781628
There's still things to factor like shape of pixel, which really helps for playing old games that relied on 640x480 or 320x240 resolution to hide a lot of their flaws.
0c47f2 No.15782440
>>15782051
yeah the 1907 is a flat tube. it's one of those holy grail sets. I like the 2050/2070 more because it's like as curved as possible.
957ec9 No.15782779
Someone dropped this at work the other day, I decided to keep it just because it looked pretty interesting with the clear casing. It's a crappy black and white 4.5 inches portable TV, that run on 12v or D batteries. I'm wondering how I can hook up vidya to it. there's a 3.5 mm audio jack at the back labeled "EXT. ANT." can you feed it a RF/UHF signal from a NES?
d75168 No.15782948
>>15782779
Check to see if there are drugs or nigger-rigged anything inside of it. This is likely from a prison, the few electronics devices inmates are allowed to get are all translucent like that.
e5053e No.15782950
>>15782779
If you have a VCR you can set them both to channel 3 and the tv should pick up a signal from the VCR's RF transmitter if you stack them close together. RF out on a VCR will transmit weakly to nearby tv's. You can make a cable with an rf connection on one end and a 3.5mm on the other. cut a 3.5 off and remove some of the insulation and touch it to an RF out on a VCR or DVD recorder with an RF out to see where you need to connect the audio and video on your RF cable. then you can run the nes or whatever in to the VCR input or directly from an NES RF adapter.
9be181 No.15783036
>>15782779
That thing looks 90s as fuck.
957ec9 No.15783050
>>15782950
got a picture. looks like hot garbage I don't know what I was expecting, but it's neat. I'll buy stuff to make a proper cable tomorrow.
9be181 No.15783087
>>15783050
Maybe you can find a PVM of that size, take both TVs apart, and put the PVM in that case.
e5053e No.15783216
>>15783050
If you find the cable does not work properly there are RF transmitter kits you can buy to boost your RF transmission. If you see a white van driving in the area with a big antenna on it stop using the RF transmitter for a while. The RF to headphone jack should work fine though.
e5053e No.15783225
>>15783050
I use one of these with my Gamegear TV Tuner so it may work with your TV. Do not know why I did not think of that in the first place.
65312a No.15783232
The fuck is that? a CRT for ants?
0c47f2 No.15783244
>>15783087
please do not remove a PVM from its case, the metals they are made of are specifically for warding off magnetic interference from the earth's poles and removing them will make the sensitive instruments be impossible to tune finely.
957ec9 No.15783326
>>15783225
>>15783216
I found one of these in my cable box. I stuck the white plug in the RF out of the nes and it work. picture is a lot cleaner now.
>>15783087
I doubt it will even fit, PVM are built like tanks and have way more boards inside. The TV I have looks like something that was build on a 10$ budget in china.
6465ff No.15783654
>>15781288
Imagine being this fucking retarded.
f3f68c No.15784015
>>15780934
10/10 on the no makeup scale
1867a1 No.15784500
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15782779
clear CRTs were usually from Prisons. I had the chance to buy a 20 incher a year ago & have been beating myself up over it. Passed on a spongebob TV for $40 too. To answer your question, I don't think so, not without modding. Those tubes are all super common though, so you might be able to find one with composite in & do a case swap. If it's anything like this, this one it's entirely possible.
>>15782950
>If you have a VCR you can set them both to channel 3 and the tv should pick up a signal from the VCR's RF transmitter if you stack them close together.
Holy shit I ave to try that one day. It never occurred to me that a VCR could do that.
7b7df6 No.15784520
I get my tvs from the dump. I've picked up dozens. I only still have a couple, because I used the rest for target practice. Probably shot up some good ones, too. What a shame.
593679 No.15784738
>>15784520
>used the rest for target practice
What a mess, soda cans would suffice anon.
1867a1 No.15784753
>>15784520
>used the rest for target practice.
Aren't CRTs coated on the inside with Lead Dust to keep the Radiation from coming out? If you're exploding CRTs won't that put lead dust into the air? Seems like a bad idea.
2418ef No.15784956
Sup guys, how are the opinions with Plasma tv for VGA/DVI sub-HD resolution games.
fddd20 No.15784971
95ca45 No.15785002
>>15784956
Though the pixel technology in a plasma panel itself would be capable of matching CRTs, all PDPs were saddled with LCD TV controller chipsets, so even at native rez they have poor input lag. For latency-insensitive games, they're very beautiful (both in terms of image and motion quality), but be wary of burn-in on older PDPs.
beb330 No.15785016
>>15781041
>implying
Most "natural" beauties are in fact wearing makeup. Honestly, no idea why you believe otherwise.
5c5550 No.15785036
>>15784956
Your best bet is the OSSC (that's if it's sometimes weird signals are supported by your TV). You'll still be fighting your TV's display lag, in-game resolution changes from fifth gen consoles will blink out your picture until your tv can rehandshake the signal, and no lightguns. Still, at the price of a OSSC you could probably hunt down a nice little PVM.
e5053e No.15785045
>>15785002
>but be wary of burn-in on older PDPs.
He fell for samsungs lies.
5c5550 No.15786373
>>15783326
That's pretty sweet anon. Good thinking with the RCA to 3.5mm, I wouldn't have expected that to work but thinking about it it just makes sense that was how they wired the jack.
9f4212 No.15786398
>>15780934
Asian women are 100% reliant on makeup to look anything other then dogshit. Atleast you can find attractive white women who look good without it
838bfd No.15786404
>>15785016
I think you're just attracted to men.
bb86f0 No.15787211
>>15786398
>3DPD of any color
>anything but PD
1867a1 No.15790832
>FREE 32 trinitron
>Just come pick it up!
>Is this still available?
>Sorry, I'm selling this for $60 now
da8d95 No.15790843
c05bd1 No.15790856
>>15787211
Can't argue with those numbers.
1867a1 No.15797011
Anyone know if a voltage regulator would help with CRT flickering & a wavy image? How sensitive are they to voltage spikes? They're basically giant lightbulbs right? I've been meaning to get one for my PC anyway, would it help any?
6bc0b7 No.15797285
>>15797011
Do you live in shitty government housing?
44bbb2 No.15797294
I've been thinking of getting into hoarding CRT's, but I'm out of space at the moment. Might rent a storage building or something. Not like this shit is getting any more common. Keeping low-end units might be pointeless though, I don't know.
Any value to small-screen trinitrons? I know a place selling a bunch that were used as monitors in television studios. Screen sizes of six inches or so.
>>15784520
Do they give you any shit? Every few months my town does a hazardous waste turn-in and televisions are a big focus. How does dump-digging work, do you just show up and they have at it?
>>15784753
Yeah they're full of nasty shit.
>>15790832
Not a bad price honestly.
08b00d No.15797339
>>15797294
>Not a bad price honestly.
You are fucking retarded, it's used garbage.
95ca45 No.15797812
>>15797011
It definitely helps, and you should have one whether or not you're using a CRT. If you want to splurge a bit, get one with a battery, not only will it serve as backup power so seconds-long brownouts don't cause your rig to shut down, but all power is sent through the battery, cleaning your grid power much better than a surge suppressor can. Either will prolong the life of equipment, against both the strains of low-quality power coming from your wall socket, and potential destruction from surges.
Remember to get at least a cheap surge suppressor for anything else that physically connects together, like LAN devices and modem lines.
256be1 No.15797827
so.. What CRT do I buy for under 250$? all I found is a PVM-1351Q 13" and quiet a few 5 and 8 s on ebay
is it worth it buying online? or should I test my luck trying to find a decent one local (that'll be a pain in the ass)
44bbb2 No.15798294
>>15797339
It's what might be the best CRT ever produced. It's a good price you dumbshit. Are you one of the retards who throws everything he buys away with in five years because it's old? The goodest of goys.
>>15797827
You can find them local, but it's going to take a few months of searching for anything good to come it. Prices are usually better because most people regard CRT as garbage regardless of brand or quality. EBay has problems with sellers not packing things correct and your TV showing up busted.
b8a12f No.15798365
Do lightgun games work on HD CRTs?
08b00d No.15798471
>>15798294
Used garbage isn't worth that much you scalping kike.
44bbb2 No.15798495
>>15798471
>don't buy used goods
>spend 10x as many shekels on new stuff every three to four years
>this totally isn't what the kikes want you to do
Good goy. Keep that disposable economy chugging right along!
ae50b7 No.15798719
I don't really have an interest in getting a CRT for retro gaming, but I wonder if one would be good as a monitor for displaying text/programming. There are some advantages I can see:
> low black levels/no back-lighting and improved contrast
Reduce eye strain. I like to code at night sometimes and any LCD screen is too bright to do that comfortably. Improved contrast is important to readability, but I don't know enough about the technical capabilities of high end LCDs vs CRTs to know which is really better in that regard.
> viewing angle
You use a lot of screen real-estate when working on a project. I have a 4K IPS screen but frankly the screen edges are still noticeably more difficult to read.
>course and saturated colour palette
I don't know if this is an intrinsic property of CRTs or just older monitors, but I like the aesthetic for text editing. If you have colour from syntax highlight, it should be noticeable and meaningful. There's no need for fine tuning subtle shades in sRGB color schemes for a monitor that might not even be calibrated correctly. And I'd rather just dial a knob to adjust colours if I thought the scheme was off.
Are refresh rates higher as well? I've never used a monitor >60 Hz for any prolonged period, so I don't know if that makes a noticeable difference at all for mostly textual applications. I know that CRTs have some tradeoff between resolution and refresh rates, but I might not mind a lower resolution anyway.
I'm not particularly set on a CRT, but the monitor I have now, while very nice, just doesn't feel like it was designed for my use case. I'd be interested in a e-ink monitor for the same reason, but there are trade-offs with that and as far as I know the market for e-ink desktop monitors is as dead as CRTs. Does anyone have a comfy monitor for reading/typing?
08b00d No.15798740
>>15798495
So you jack up the prices for used shit so poor people can't afford anything either, good job kike.
1dea9e No.15798831
>>15798719
I'd also like something like an e-ink monitor because LCDs just destroy my eyes. But everything I find is just too fucking expensive and with touchscreen I don't want.
953aa8 No.15799069
>>15798365
No. They have digital input processing (even for SD analog signals) just like an LCD TV, which adds too much delay for lightgun games to work. You shouldn't use them for retrogaming at all, as while it's possible that they could have implemented this processing with only a few scanlines of delay, in reality they most likely buffer a full frame or two at a time like any shitty LCD TV would, to upscale and deinterlace. Not to mention I would not be surprised if they shit the bed with 240p signals.
95ca45 No.15799189
>>15798719
CRTs are terrible for text/programming, since they flicker, CRTs are strongest for video playback, gaming, and photographic/photorealistic still images.
There are, sadly, no large-format standalone eInk displays.
Your best option for text/lineart right now is to get an LCD with LED backlight that uses true analog (non-PWM) dimming. This will allow you to adjust backlight brightness while completely eliminating all flicker:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/flicker_free_database.htm
>>15798495
Anon, there are fair prices and unfair prices, $60 isn't a fair price, even for a 32" Trinitron, unless it's one of the rare pure analog HD-ready sets.
8945ec No.15799489
>>15798719
I've tried all the different panel types, pwm/non backlights, computer glasses, destroyed multiple monitors fiddling with the panels and backlights and diffuser layers. The only way I have found to reliably reduce that mind numbing brain fog and eye strain is to illuminate the display with a shit ton of lighting.
Get yourself a cheap light meter and setup a light, something like diagram related. Angle the light fixture so that the lamp light isn't shining directly into your eyes and also position it such that the light reflecting off of the monitor isn't reflecting into your eyes. Use a very bright lamp. I'm using a par38 20w led flood lamp with the diffuser removed that's positioned less than a foot way from the screen. Use the light meter to measure how brightly you're illuminating the display. I've found that at least 2000lux illuminance is works best, with higher light levels improving readability. I have no idea why this works for me but even though the lamp illumination completely kills the monitor contrast, it paradoxically makes the text clearer and less strenuous to focus on and read.
Also at these brightness levels wearing my maui jims improves text readability even more. But because the sunglasses are vertically polarized, you need to position ips panels in portrait and va panels in landscape.
You can try this out temporarily by just holding up a bright desk lamp in the same position and see how the display looks and whether or not it works for you.
2dd786 No.15799512
>>15798719
>I like to code at night sometimes and any LCD screen is too bright
Have you tried f.lux?
1867a1 No.15801805
>>15797827
You would always RGB mod a consumer set.
You do know how to solder right?
8d506f No.15802975
>>15779333
>My car
>Hunting giveaway CRTs
Hmmmm
1867a1 No.15803649
>>15802975
>My car
>Hunting giveaway CRTs
Cool it with the Anti Semitism. I'm just a hard working goyim trying to get a free mario box like everyone else.