995bc4 No.15760800
Why do PC games skimp on proper FOV and UI scaling? 4k is worthless if you cannot downscale the UI.
The first set of images here shows a good example of bad UI scaling. Having an irregular window size gives the player more map visibility.
a5dea9 No.15760815
>>15760800
>4k screenshots
>not saved as 15mb pngs
8chan's average IQ just went up a bit
995bc4 No.15760829
Here we see that at 1080p and 4k there is basically zero difference in the UI, there is no way to make the UI smaller or change the FOV. Most games operate like this. The only way to properly get more FOV or a smaller UI relative to the rest of the screen is to use some absurd aspect ratio.
As far as I can tell every PC game I play feels the same exact way.
995bc4 No.15760833
>>15760815
It's called ShareX friend. If the screenshot is above a certain size it will turn it into a jpeg.
05dbc8 No.15760869
>get an advantage because game utilizes all the large screen space as it should
>complain on /v/ because that's how he lives his life
569191 No.15760882
>>15760833
Screenshots and photos should always be jpegs. It's what they were designed for. PNGs are for logos and simple color shit.
995bc4 No.15760885
This is the major appeal of 4k resolutions for productivity reasons. See how the Taskbar actually gets smaller at 100% screen scaling between 1080p and 4k. Now you may be some nigger or boomer with terrible vision but there are people that actually enjoy this.
569191 No.15760893
>>15760829
Beamdog added an obnoxiously shitty UI scaler to NWN Enhanced that doesn't really help. I'm sure there's a game with good UI scaling out there. Have you tried Starsiege: Tribes?
995bc4 No.15760903
>>15760869
> Playing shit tier multiplayer games because you are some kind of subhuman.
> People who play same shit tier multiplayer games talk about how (((144hz))) and $200 mice give an advantage.
>>15760893
I have not.
86235b No.15760907
>>15760885
Focusing on tiny text on a bright screen is gonna fuck your eyesight up on the long run
995bc4 No.15760909
>>15760907
This is why you use dark / night modes.
05dbc8 No.15760935
>>15760903
>see more things
>not a clear advantage
>set up ultra wide display
>surprised he gets ultra wide view
995bc4 No.15760943
>>15760935
>>not a clear advantage
Gaming is not about getting an "advantage" it's about fun.
Only some kind of subhuman FPS / Mobashit playing trash wouldn't understand this.
6d8f34 No.15760955
It's like I'm playing Darius for the first time again.
05dbc8 No.15760981
>>15760943
Are the games you posted "moba"? Why are you talking about that? Are you autistic?
8385aa No.15761042
Most PC ports uses vertical FOV instead of horizontal FOV which every mustard FPS player is accustomed to. For example, 59° vertical FOV is 90° in horizontal.
>>15760800
>path of tencent
Those better not be your screencaps.
995bc4 No.15761061
>>15761042
I have the game installed right now. Nothing more. I may play a week or two at the beginning of the league but I am done giving money to GGG.
61a6aa No.15761069
>>15760882
Jpegs look like dogshit and degrade the image. Neck yourself.
0fd10d No.15761099
>>15760815
I've reported op globally for this infraction.
Anyone caught not using uncompressed pngs is subject to a life ban.
0fd10d No.15761106
>>15761069
>from the people who brought you "I can hear the difference between 1024kbit mp3s and 256kbit
Spend more time on pitchfork media and less time here you fucking cretinous prolapsed cunt, you can't tell the difference between a man and a woman, let alone a jpg and png you pretentious fuckwit.
409e72 No.15761117
>jpg shills on /v/
It's not the 90s anymore. You can download a GB in ten seconds now.
0fd10d No.15761119
>>15760909
>doesn't understand how eyesight works
0fd10d No.15761130
>>15761117
Let's have a look:
original uploaded sends 15mb png.
Server downloads 15mb.
Server stores 15mb.
100 or 1,000 people download 15mb.
Suddenly a few gigs are wasted because of an incompetent noob not knowing how to use a computer.
I remember when it was just grannies and clinical retards who didn't know what file sizes were, then came the redditors who didn't know what compression was for.
>I rip all my dvds at 8gb with no compression because it's thupewior!
>all my games are programmed in visual basic because programming in a low level language is soooo 90s!!
>injects aids medication
>waxes anus
20ac17 No.15761143
>why don't developers waste time covering edge cases for 0.000001% of players that attempt to use the game with arbitrary aspect ratios like 169:30
8fe4fc No.15761157
72abf6 No.15761176
72abf6 No.15761190
>>15761117
>implying every Anon lives in South Korea/Singapore/Japan/some pozzed megashithole
>implying Anons living in Western Europe and/or rural America on a shitty DSL connection don't exist
7c7ecb No.15761216
>>15760885
Nice Windows 10
>>15760903
>(((144hz))) and $200 mice give an advantage
But 144hz objectively gives an advantage and feels really good?
a9d03b No.15761363
>>15761216
60hz is already way quicker than your reaction time. That's an average lag of 8ms. You aren't getting an advantage, that's a placebo effect.
05dbc8 No.15761406
>>15761190
I have a good connection and I still don't want to have to download huge pictures because the fucking site isn't that fast. People who don't know what the fuck they are talking about need to get gassed, because jpegs can be high quality and still be very small compared to a PNG. PNG doesn't compress well when you have a lot of colors in a picture, it's only acceptable if you're saving desktop backgrounds or something.
d0e781 No.15761801
>>15761363
>latency isn't additive
Nice OnLive shilling
ea10a6 No.15761812
>>15760903
Tribes is free and tiny (about 150 meg). I encourage you to try it, it has a customizable UI and great resolution support for a game released in 98. The font may still end up tiny though.
ea10a6 No.15761824
>>15761069
You're a cancerous retard if you honestly think PNG is intrinsically better. You're wasting a ton of image space. Meanwhile JPEGs can display 4k camera photos at sub 10 meg sizes. It's designed for efficiency not visual autism. Assuming you want to store more than one image on your hard drive and you're not an artist or editor, you want the storage efficiency.
a9d03b No.15761844
>>15761801
Additive to what? If the game itself buffers your actions or something then that's its problem. Don't play shit games. Framerate won't help there, unless it's one of those really awfully coded games that tie game logic to frame rate (like how people used to fix their FPS to a specific number in CS 1.6 to run slightly faster).
07f578 No.15761917
>Why do PC games not do X
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58e72d No.15761979
>>15761117
Why don't you go ahead and use bitmaps? You braindamaged faggot who somehow managed to convince himself that he has any idea what he's talking about.
7c7ecb No.15762161
>>15761844
Your reaction time? Even if it's a super slight increase that barely matters it still gives an objective advantage.
22b6cf No.15762304
>>15762161
except it isn't. The human reaction time even on people with very good reactions is too slow to benefit from it. You'll notice a difference in smoothing, but not one to your reaction time
4fcae9 No.15762321
>>15760800
4K is a retarded flick and console meme and the amount of retards who fall for it and use a PC is minimal so it's not worth catering to them.
e0c6d8 No.15762326
Old games, shitty devs.
Next?
a9d03b No.15765840
>>15762161
It's debatable whether it even helps or hurts. Humans are better at seeing discontinuous events compared to continuous ones. Lower framerate and lower detail makes it quicker to visually recognize and respond to stimuli.
1ff2e1 No.15765849
>>15761069
you can choose between compression and quality balance. You could even create a lossless .jpg if you wanted to but… it would be no different to a bmp, tiff or whatever.
1ff2e1 No.15765856
>>15760800
it's coz most games are console ports. The one good think about mobile phones is killing the consoles. When all the casuals are on mobiles and consoles fully die we will get proper PC games again.
1ff2e1 No.15765865
>>15761844
have fun getting past gold nova 2 with a 60hz monitor. You're right about mouses though. Unfortunately due to the high DPI meme you sorta have to get a gaming mouse so you can configure it to have low DPI coz even normal mouses went with the DPI meme.
a9d03b No.15765872
>>15765865
>gold nova 2
I'm sorry, what is this gay shit?
Meanwhile Koreans are hitting 500 APM on a 60 hz 640x480 screens.
1ff2e1 No.15765885
>>15765872
Counter Strike.
RTS don't need that high reaction times since most of their activity is rote.
1ff2e1 No.15765895
>>15765872
ppl also seem to do well at 120+ hz, so full 144 probably not needed. You're also going to be sacrificing graphics quality, everyone who plays competitively gets 120 or 144hz monitors and puts everything on the lowest possible settings to maintain that 144FPS.
a9d03b No.15765928
>>15765885
>RTS don't need that high reaction times since most of their activity is rote.
r u jokin m8?
>loses entire army in .5s because he didn't notice a tiny dot on the minimap and immediately order the entire army back.
Counter strike is much more casual, 90% of the time you know exactly where the enemy is coming from and exactly which corner to stare at with all of your concentration. Reacting against something you are prepared for is far, far easier than reacting to events completely disconnected to what you are looking at while you need to think about things like resources/tech/unit composition.
>>15765895
Yeah, everyone competitive knows to kick all graphics options to minimum in games because it makes reaction quicker. Remember how when CS:S was released everyone swore the game was sped up, but it turned out it wasn't and instead the human brain just slows down trying to process a more detailed environment?