5e8e38 No.15756148
Heres an example.
>Shiggsy on being asked about a new F-ZERO
>"Why would you want that? where could we go from the last one?"
Well the fact that you didn't make an F-Zero for Wii/WiiU/Switch means two things.
1. I had no reason to buy any console
2. If you had made the F-Zero I would have your console AND be buying other games other than F-Zero cause why not?
If you neglect popular titles you lose customers. KYS Shiggsy you fucking autistic cunt.
5a340f No.15756155
>implying Nintendo isn't making loads of money selling Pokemon Go for their tablet
>implying F-Zero is financially worth making when Mario Kart exists
5e8e38 No.15756165
0b5fe5 No.15756167
I think he's partially right though, what can you do with a series that's just racing?
2f8f54 No.15756170
>>15756167
make more racing games? are you daft? it's not like a plot is needed
>>15756155
they could bring in a more hardcore audience with F-Zero games than Mario Kart
5e8e38 No.15756175
>>15756167
I don't like Karting I like F-Zero
e86335 No.15756176
They could’ve made one for 3DS, 3D high speed racing alone would have justified its existence.
dfc9bb No.15756183
>>15756176
"fully 3d portable F-Zero" is still a big enough gimmick tbh.
The switch is considered portable so thats sorta still on the table.
8fabcf No.15756184
>>15756167
Stagnation has never stopped Nintendo before.
8870e1 No.15756185
>>15756167
>I think he's partially right though, what can you do with a series that's just racing?
refine it? reintroduce x-cup and track editor?
>>15756176
>no F-Zero X 3D
smh
2d5930 No.15756187
F-zero fans are so annoying. Truth is they can't make one because Nagoshi is too busy with his hundred million dollar franchise and Nintendo doesn't know how to make arcade games.
f191ae No.15756193
Who cares
bing bing wahoo games are mostly shit, do you want morw fucking sticker stars and that crappy metriod 3ds games?
Play better games and stop sucking fucking 30 year old shallow cash grabs off. The only series Nintendo does good is Kirby
5e8e38 No.15756196
Well I ain't bought any Nintendo console since Gamecube because of their attitude to games like F-Zero. If they don't want my money then fuck em.
c6aeab No.15756210
>Nintendo is failing financially because they aren't making games that I, specifically want
Apply yourself. I'd be all over a new F-Zero, though.
9088e4 No.15756223
>Nintendo is failing financially
You are in denial, dude.
440594 No.15756246
>Switch already beat WiiU lifetime sales 10 months after it's launch
>Already, or is very close to, surpassing Gamecube lifetime sales.
Love it or hate it, the Switch is doing well for them.
sage for shitty cuckchan thread and most likely consolewar faggotry
12e95a No.15756253
>>15756148
>complaining about no new f-zero
Your suffering has only begun
7d6520 No.15756257
>I'm a single game console buyer
The Wii, WiiU and Switch combined have dozens of titles that are worth the purchase. The fact you refuse to buy a console because they didn't release a bland racing game (that has been done better by other devs, mind you) means you're a fucking autistic faggot.
You're like those single issue voters who only care about muh weed dude.
5e8e38 No.15756259
5e8e38 No.15756261
>>15756257
Why would I buy a console that won't release the game I want? hurrrr.
7d6520 No.15756263
>>15756261
Well, if you literally only care about one single video game ever, then I guess you might as well drop vidya as a hobby entirely.
Hurr durr.
7bf47e No.15756265
Could Nintendo be failing because people are finally realizing they are a bad company who doesn't care about their fans or their bottom line?
440594 No.15756268
>>15756261
About the closest thing you're going to get is FastRMX. For all the bitching, F-Zero apparently doesn't sell.
d17598 No.15756272
the truth is that there isn't enough talent in Nintendo anymore, you should know that since everything that isn't mario/zelda/gimmick games gets outsourced (going back to the times of F-Zero GX), they have trained monkeys for those kind of games while the real talent left a long a go. Current Nintendo would probably butcher F-Zero.
I would go as far as saying that no company can make a decent old-school arcade racer anymore
5a340f No.15756277
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Oh shit I just remembered this exists. It has f-zero personality and shitty techno music but it's a fast racing game I guess
d17598 No.15756278
>>15756268
isn't FastRMX a Wipeout clone? despite being anti-gravity racing games, F-Zero and Wipeout are nothing alike
12e95a No.15756279
>>15756259
Seriously though, I can forgive them being reticent about a (relatively) plot-heavy series like Metroid for years at a time, but failing to pump out a refreshed installment in a plotless racing/strategy game on significantly more powerful consoles verges on deliberately antagonistic.
d17598 No.15756283
>>15756279
heck, they could just re-release F-Zero GX with update graphics and online and people would eat it up. I don't understand the need to revolutionize a series with each entry
5e8e38 No.15756286
>>15756279
Would love a new Waveracer Imagine what the water effects could be like these days.
3ba096 No.15756289
>>15756277
>f-zero
>can't even double tap turn
>no blast turning if i recall
>no drifting
yeah no
5e8e38 No.15756294
>>15756283
I don't see how games like Mario Kart are "revolutionized". seems the same old shit to me. Shiggsy is probably still mad that Sega made a better F-ZERO
dfc9bb No.15756299
>>15756257
I don't really think any game emulates F-zero to the point that it gets outclassed by anything really;
the mechanics of F-zero are all pretty important and stuff like side attack/drift are really important for the feel.
>>15756289
How the hell do you remove blast turning?
a48fa6 No.15756300
>>15756283
Perhaps even an HD rerelease is not worth their time, have you considered that? Rumors are that GX/AX was one of the most expensive games they worked on at the time, and ended up being a massive failure, so barring those GBA games, the series died.
5e8e38 No.15756304
>>15756300
their failure sold me the gamecube and several games. maybe look at the big picture?
88885e No.15756306
OP are you retarded? How is avoiding financial flops while focusing on the big cash cows "failing financially" in any way?
3b9b14 No.15756307
>>15756148
>Nintendo is failing financially
Source?
11de7f No.15756308
I want more F-Zero, but Nintendo is doing great financially. They've had some of the best profit years they've ever had recently. If you want something that scratches that F-Zero itch a bit, Fast RMX is pretty great.
a48fa6 No.15756312
>>15756304
How is one autist on an Estonian pidgeon breeding forum "the big picture"? It lost money, period, and the Gamecube was a flop too.
440594 No.15756313
>>15756278
Note I said "closest". No, it's not really like F-Zero, but you do go fast. It is a shame, though. For all the partnering Nintendo has been doing, you would think they'd at least approach Sega again for another F-Zero. Hell, I think many would mostly be okay with an upscaled port of GX with online play. The game itself doesn't need any real flashy gimmicks other than being able to go fast and building and tuning a racer to do just that.
a48fa6 No.15756321
>>15756313
I wonder about this, actually. Wasn't Star Fox 0 basically an updated 64 with tablet controls? That's what most people said, was certainly the most common criticism I heard, and it sold like shit too.
440594 No.15756330
>>15756321
It was intended to be yet another reboot with some motion control fuckery. It was mediocre.
12e95a No.15756344
>>15756330
Star Fox 64 was itself a remake of the SNES original, pretty much.
11de7f No.15756348
>>15756243
> All this text
> Not one fucking period
> No capitalized sentences
This shit is painful to read. It comes off as the undirected rambling of a drunk. Have some standards; this isn't Twatter.
a48fa6 No.15756431
>>15756423
>VR
I sure do enjoy vomiting profusely while playing my video games.
b8f6b3 No.15756432
>>15756148
>dev tells you he's not interested in making it and doesn't see how he would handle it
<"FUCK YOU MAKE IT!"
I bet you'll be the first one to screech when you get a terrible shitpile with no creativity behind it, you dumb retard
1ee74b No.15756457
>>15756148
Shiggsy - s = Shiggy
2b5e57 No.15756482
>nintendo is failing financially
>bring back this niche franchise because I like it, and it will be sure to sell
But the should bring it back. What do you do with it? You keep it the same, and add more tracks and online play, you tight arsed jap cunt, but you knew that, you'd just rather make more Mario Kart games because they sell better.
12e95a No.15756497
>>15756431
Stop being a subhuman, buckle up, and get your VR legs.
I personally remember people, some of them longtime gamers, actually getting motionsick from Descent back when it came out.
2b5e57 No.15756498
>>15756423
Wipeout's dead too, and it's also not as good of a series. Weapons make it feel like Mario Kart.
cc6757 No.15756511
>"Why would you want that? where could we go from the last one?"
Holy shit Nintendo is based, it's like someone with a brain is in charge and not some dumb profit chaser.
2b5e57 No.15756513
>>15756511
This is profit chasing though. They'd rather make more NSMB games because they sell more.
13acc8 No.15756517
>>15756148
>Why Nintendo is failing financially
In your native timeline perhaps, but not this one.
141900 No.15756541
>>15756300
Why is the GameCube always labeled "GCN" instead of "GC"? Never understood that.
2b5e57 No.15756565
>>15756541
NGC was copyrighted already, or something. It's stupid.
2d5930 No.15756581
>>15756541
I always wondered that too. I just use GC for short. Gamecube Nintendo doesn't make sense.
6380ed No.15756613
>Nintendo is failing financially
But they aren't though
11de7f No.15756623
>>15756410
You're on a board presumably occupied by adults, at least pretend that you're one.
5a5264 No.15756654
>>15756344
So they've told the same story 3 or 4 times at this point. I like a lot of Nintendo's characters but they're so set on being safe now that it's just starting to feel lame.
2b5e57 No.15756670
>>15756654
Starfox's story is unimportant. Just make a new good one with minimal gimmicks.
2d5930 No.15756680
>>15756670
No can do. If you want a good 3d shooter sega had you covered.
d41387 No.15756705
>>15756670
Ubisoft did the starfox missions in its new game, and it pains me to say it because its ubisoft, alright. Strip out the toy faggotry, the ubisoft characters who are shit faggotry and make it a game just about starfox with all the features intact and there could be a, once again pain, good starfox game from ubisoft.
0cf44b No.15756771
>>15756148
It's not even the popular titles, they neglect 99% of their IPs since they think they can sell systems using only Mario and Zelda.
0cf44b No.15756792
>>15756705
Nah, fuck that. Just give it to Platinum again and let them do whatever they want. The only reason Zero sucked was because of Miyamoto, if not for that the game would've been great.
1250bf No.15756793
>>15756432
We already get that though. You don't even have to use the monkeys paw.
d41387 No.15756815
>>15756792
Honestly, anyone would be a good call, just have nintendo not fucking meddle, and with the controller being a mostly standard controller again better chance of no gimmicks that slow the game down. I will admit, the tower defense game is fun with friends
c3d2f9 No.15756828
Vidya becoming unpopular enough to the point where modern AAA bullshit is incapable of earning any profit when?
d41387 No.15756838
>>15756828
Never, hollyjew has a better chance of collapsing.
d1b8b5 No.15756844
>>15756257
>The Wii, WiiU and Switch combined have dozens of titles that are worth the purchase.
Well of course if you add the wii and wiiu you'll get dozens of games. Including the Switch is redundant when it has mostly WiiU ports.
>>15756304
The big picture is that Nintendo will go after a big crowd of money instead of chase tiny scraps that won't bring loads of money.
cc6757 No.15756864
>>15756513
You can make an exact copy of the previous games with new levels and it'll be fresh. Platformers are different in the sense of racing games.
389a6b No.15756896
Every day is a new low for NTDOY Analysts are all in agreement that the stock will continue to sink. No it probably won't go as low as the height of the Wii U failure. No they aren't at risk of bankruptcy but stop acting like they're rolling in green just because you're drowning in their recent marketing campaign. Also stop acting like a new racing game is going to save them.
c4143e No.15756898
Reported for console wars, sweetie.
ff5c9d No.15756906
>>15756148
>Nintendo isn't making the games I want
>they're losing out of free money
>they must be failing financially
<the Switch is printing money
Shiggydiggy is right, though. To keep an IP fresh and popular, you have to improve upon it in order to make it feel new and interesting. There has to be some sort of thing to attract people, some sort of, "Look at this! It's X, but now it comes with Y!" in order to turn heads rather than saying, "Look at this! You want this!" Otherwise, you're just remaking games for the sake of remaking games, and that just makes people bitch endlessly because rehashed bullshit is what creatively bankrupt companies do to cash in on nostalgiabux.
To be fair, F-Zero with online races and a track editor that let you put your tracks online would be pretty sweet, and I genuinely think that and the F-Zero name combined would generate insane sales. Custom Circuit GP consisting of highly-rated custom when? It's a hard argument to have, because people on both sides make good points, but you can't deny that /v/ would find a reason to bitch no matter what happens.
1f11fc No.15756907
how is Nintendo failing financially when they are financially successful?
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/highlight/index.html
2b5e57 No.15756926
>>15756792
They could just fucking release Zero again with more content and control options, and I'd be happy. They were so close.
2b5e57 No.15756932
>>15756864
Make new levels for the racing game.
b5a2cf No.15756944
>>15756906
Bethesda has been releasing the same video game for almost a decade now. All AAA games are rpg grindfests with crafting. The people want repetition!
2b5e57 No.15756947
>>15756906
>To keep an IP fresh and popular, you have to improve upon it in order to make it feel new and interesting.
Sure, if you're cranking them out. It's been like 15 years since the last F-Zero. They can just make a new one. It's fine.
c78752 No.15756958
F-Zero was a launch game, Mario Kart was made 2 years later and became such a success that made F-Zero obsolete.
Nintendo could relegate it to a second party though: they have been able to handle abandoned franchises pretty well.
dd3408 No.15756964
>>15756253
GC custom robo was an abomination and you know it.
bc7418 No.15756966
>>15756896
All the tech stocks are falling, and so will the entire stock market as we are heading to a new recession there's nothing special about Jewtendo.
587c47 No.15756976
>>15756896
But they ARE rolling in green.
2b5e57 No.15756993
>>15756958
No one cares about the original F-Zero. They care about X and GX being some of the best racing games ever made.
6c55f1 No.15757009
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
It honestly seems like a no-brainer to put out a new F-Zero that's essentially GX with additional tracks and a track designer/editor. That's all that I think anyone really wants at this point.
0cf44b No.15757013
>>15756926
Yeah, they could probably add in all the 64 and SNES levels, fix the aiming, and lower the price. They'd have a huge hit on their hands if they did.
0cf44b No.15757016
>>15756964
Say it to my face ben.
6adc4a No.15757048
Lol, Nintendo fans literally want the same game to he re-released 20 times.
95655a No.15757085
itt: reboots and 999 sequels are fine (but only if it's the franchises I like)
2b5e57 No.15757113
>>15757085
There are currently three main F-Zero games, with the only other entries being on GBA. The last game that matters came out in 2003.
>there are so fucking many! Just give it a rest!
0143a0 No.15757117
95655a No.15757122
>>15757113
>give me more of the same please
>pursue new ideas and property? that's crazy
just emulate you whore
2b5e57 No.15757133
>>15757122
GX emulates funny, and I want new tracks. If the entire sci-fi racing genre wasn't more or less dead, maybe things would be different.
1f11fc No.15757136
>>15756864
Sometimes recycling what works ends up making something better.
a48fa6 No.15757139
>>15757113
There are currently four Animal Crossing games, with the only other entries being spinoffs or slight expansions. How many times have you heard of the series being supposedly milked? I've seen it plenty.
dbe25f No.15757142
Nintendo isn't making money because casuals aren't buying a Nintendo Switch to play the best console versions of Madden and Fifa. They're buying Playstation 4's or Xbox Ones for that instead. Nintendo isn't making as much money as they should because they prioritize first party software over enticing normalfag's favorite third party developers no matter how corrupt they are.
2b5e57 No.15757155
>>15757139
Animal crossing debuted on the Gamecube (or N64 in Japan if you want to be a pedant) and has gotten a game on every nintendo system since. Even so, I wouldn't say it's getting milked. It's getting supported like any popular franchise should. What good reason is there for them not to release an Animal Crossing game on every new console?
a48fa6 No.15757184
>>15757142
Nintendo has relied on first party for all of their consoles, and relied on it predominantly since the N64.
Also, not really a "sale" per se but Fortnite has nearly the same amount of downloads on Switch as Mario Odyssey does sales.
http://archive.is/5rccG
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2018/181031_2e.pdf
8ddc07 No.15757206
>>15756167
dumbest comment I seen in awhile, as if racing games arent worth updating cause you just drive around a track? Doesn't seem to stop them from making more kart games, I mean why do that? It's just racing
a48fa6 No.15757218
>>15757184
Off topic sidenote.
dbe25f No.15757239
>>15757184
Yes but during NES and SNES era their extra sales were due to third party games and being the choice of platform ports. Switch is getting better with the Japanese middleware market, which I'm fine with (plus Sony shot themselves in the foot). In general it's the triple A casual trash that makes the most money on consoles. Still, Nintendo is doing alright with amiibo sales, mobile microtransactions, and other venues. And now Nintendo is the monopoly of dedicated handheld consoles again they can milk that until the dedicated handheld market finally migrates to full mobile once a decent OS for gaming comes out.
3aa7a0 No.15757240
>>15756148
>Nintendo is printing money at the moment.
>Butthurt F-Zero says their failing.
I feel your pain Anon I love F-Zero but it never sold well. Learn to move on like the Virtua Fighter fans did.
>OP is still a faggot.
a48fa6 No.15757274
>>15757239
That's true, yes, but the best selling game on the NES is still Super Mario Bros. Hell, 24 of the 30 best selling NES games are Nintendo games.
For Playstation, even if we're counting ones that Sony published alongside other companies, only 11 of them were Sony-published.
b55559 No.15757350
>Complain when devs release a rehash every console generation
>Complain when devs DON'T release a rehash every console generation
I'm starting to feel /v/ likes to complain just for the sake of it.
9db842 No.15757363
>>15757350
>/v/ is one person
7ae282 No.15757370
>>15756155
>super grandma kart
Doesn't compare to the high-octane thrill of F-Zero
1aff46 No.15757405
>>15757350
>I'm starting to feel /v/ likes to complain just for the sake of it.
A lot of people here do yeah, but not all of us.
1ee74b No.15757498
>>15757350
Where the fuck have you been?
2b5e57 No.15757568
>>15757350
>one new game per generation is excessive
Who says this? A game every year is too much. That's downright prudish.
a48fa6 No.15757785
>>15757568
>Who says this?
Every person who says Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and Smash are milked.
af258d No.15757803
>>15757785
What? Both smash fans and AC fans beg for new games.
9f0f54 No.15757820
>>15757803
both of them acknowledge they get one a generation and the wait can be pretty tedious sometimes when you know its coming but dont know when.
f90345 No.15757822
>>15756148
Isn't there a new WipEout coming out soon? That's the closest thing I can think of to F-Zero
9f0f54 No.15757830
As much as I have wanted a new F-Zero for the past several years, your understanding on what makes a game financially successful and would push a developer to make said game is asinine.
also
>Switch selling like hotcakes
>Insane amount of money stockpiles
>failing financially
I mean the Wii U sure did but to say that now is just silly.
a91bc6 No.15757835
>Why Nintendo is failing financially
GOOD
7c48a4 No.15757840
>>15756148
Reported for anti nintendo shilling fuck off cuckchan refusegee
a91bc6 No.15757841
a91bc6 No.15757845
>>15757840
Cucktendo shill FUCK OFF
1f11fc No.15757847
>>15757845
>Cucktendo
man (you) refugees can't meme
89682e No.15757852
>how to reboot F-Zero
>release F-Zero X on the 3DS with online (competitive) play
>track editor
>timed races and ghosts
>possibility of custom ship building
>hand off the series to Sega
>F-Zero GX remake for Switch
>Don't touch a fucking thing but add online play, an online garage for sharing custom machines and ranked scores, ghosts
>custom track builder
>hand it off to Sega
Don't let Nintendo make a new F-Zero. They'll ruin it worse than Sony could with their ips.
1a85fe No.15757854
>>15757139
People were saying it was milked because, after New Leaf you saw the spin offs come out way too fast
a91bc6 No.15757855
>>15757847
>refugee
You need to get out, No one fucking likes nintendo here cuck.
7c48a4 No.15757865
>>15757855
if you dont like nintendo you are from cuckchan or reddit as simple as that
go larp to your swastikas cletus
1a85fe No.15757866
>>15757239
You say this but honestly the Switch in terms of 3rd party games I want to play has been just as weak as the Wii U
a91bc6 No.15757868
>>15757865
Nice bait, now fuck off
d41387 No.15757904
>>15757184
>freeware does the same as 80$ game
Thats either really bad for the freeware or really good for the 80$ game.
9f0f54 No.15757927
>>15757904
Getting in half of all consoles is honestly a pretty good gig, even if freeware.
especially considering its available on other platforms (with PC being its primary one)
Also Odyssey aint 80? Unless you mean non-burger bucks.
060bd7 No.15757940
>where else could we go with the series?
>makes another new super bros deluxe yltra plus edition
5e8e38 No.15757974
>>15757940
Yeah he is full of shit.
a48fa6 No.15758035
>>15757940
>>15757974
Of course it's an excuse, but really, it just means that even the minimum effort it would take to do GX HD is not worth the shekels it would cost, so it's not exactly a good sign.
2316cc No.15758170
>>15756148
Nigger even if we dislike how they do things, but to say they are failing financially is fucking retarded considering how much the Switch sold and continues to print them money.
1f11fc No.15758192
>>15757855
<refugees still can't meme
The term is nintendrone kiddo
2b5e57 No.15758256
>>15757785
Who's saying that? Maybe people who don't like those franchises and would rather they didn't exist at all. No fan wants to go a whole console generation without a Smash Bros game.
5e8e38 No.15758288
>>15758280
you think you do but you don't
f8291b No.15758295
>>15756148
>OP wants a Nintendo F-Zero
>when best version of the game was made by SEGA
There's your answer you dumb nigger
2b5e57 No.15758328
>>15758295
>only Sega could make a good F-Zero game
b1f794 No.15758354
>>15756300
That's from VGChartz numbers isn't it. What's weird is that one of the Amusement Vision guys who worked on GX said it sold a over million and became a Player Choice title because of it.
>>15756581
There's a theory out there that Nintendo wanted a constant name for their gaming consoles after having to change it with each new one. As in it would have gone from Nintendo Gamecube to Nintendo Game(BLANK). But since the GCN sold so badly that plan was cancelled and they started from scratch again with the Wii name.
a48fa6 No.15758368
>>15758354
Player's choice is 250k worldwide, not a million.
aee0d0 No.15758377
>>15756148
Just like how Wonder Woman and venom flopped because they didn’t make a billion dollars like black panther?
>>>/tv/
>>>/4chan/
a48fa6 No.15758384
>>15758377
Is that supposed to be pro-microsoft? Because the not-green-greentext is subjective and the game selection is objectively wrong, since most of those are on PC. Hell, all three feature rereleases. What a shit fucking list.
0dca71 No.15758438
>>15756155
>implying F-Zero is financially worth making when Mario Kart exists
Nintendo 100% has the funds to make both, but oh ya that's right gotta make sure games are profitable before they're fun, if they're estimated to be profitable enough to be made that is. Stop defending some hook nose securing a bottom dollar over of game variety.
182511 No.15758442
>>15758377
>>15758384
I could almost believe the image was genuine, if not for the Sea of Thieves box in the middle.
53febd No.15758444
>>15758377
Didn't the Switch come out just last year while the PS4 and Xbone have been on the market for 5 years? That's pretty damn good tbh
c26318 No.15758448
>>15756148
>Nintendo is failing financially
>Smash broke pre-order records for a Switch game
>All first party Nintendo games have all sold well into the millions (Even fucking 1-2 Switch, somehow)
>The Switch has sold roughly 4.5 million units this year with the holiday season not even in full swing yet
Take your sour grapes somewhere else. Even if you're not a Nintendo fan you can't deny the numbers.
fe6973 No.15758453
>>15756167
Make an F-Zero game that's a proper racer, like Gran Turismo, instead of just arcadey shit. Make an RPG. Make a track management game. Endless possibilities. Miyamoto should retire.
a48fa6 No.15758466
>>15758448
>Smash broke pre-order records for a Switch game
So it's Battlefront 2.0? You know full well the majority of those sales will pay for online as well.
Most downvoted comment of all time. NINE MILLION SALES. WE DID IT REDDIT.
THOUSANDS OF DOWNVOTES AND OUTRAGE AT ONLINE. BIGGEST PREORDERS IN NINTENDO HISTORY.
Fuck this nigger shit.
e6814e No.15758468
>>15758377
>there are pro-MS anons here
Whoa, I thought they were extinct.
1f11fc No.15758479
>>15758466
I am going to buy two copies just to spite (you)
c26318 No.15758485
>>15758466
Except Smash isn't relying on lootboxes as part of their bottom-line, you stupid nigger
0cc286 No.15758494
>>15756253
>melee had wave race trophy
>brawl had a sticker
>sm4sh had no wave race content whatsoever
>no sign of wave race in ultimate (so far)
a48fa6 No.15758495
>>15758468
Pro-kikebox anons are a strange phenomenon, but there are plenty of people who like kikebox in general. Hell, the Xbone pushed about 30 million units after all said and done.
>>15758485
It's relying on $20 online that many claimed they were gonna protest. And don't give me the bullshit of "people will just play it locally", most normalfags can't be bothered to walk to a friend's house when they can instead drop shekels and play online. The vast majoirty will play exclusively online.
be8f09 No.15758518
>>15758495
$20 for a whole year is nothing. However, I'm not going to pay for it. If I really want to play online, I can just use accrued rewards points.
c26318 No.15758525
>>15758495
>It's relying on $20 online that many claimed they were going to protest
Who's this "many" you speak of? Sounds like you're projecting. There are endless seas of normalfags who will gladly throw down $20 to play online JUST for Smash. Not to mention all the people who split the bill on the family plan for the online so they pay even less.
>most normalfags can't be bothered to walk to a friend's house when they can instead drop shekels and play online. The vast majority will play exclusively online.
Good job, faggot. You just disproved your own argument.
a48fa6 No.15758547
>>15758525
So what the fuck were all those dislikes for on the annoucement video, then? Why bother if you're going to pay anyway?
323c7c No.15758568
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15758377
Drown in semen.
9f0f54 No.15758609
>>15758495
>It's relying on $20 online
It really isnt though.
Smashing online is nice but pretty much everyone agrees that the best way to do it is local.
>And don't give me the bullshit of "people will just play it locally", most normalfags can't be bothered to walk to a friend's house when they can instead drop shekels and play online.
You clearly dont know how normalfags work, mate.
Most of them can spare a few hours out of a week to go out and socialize and play video games with friends.
Of course a lot of people who but the new smash are going to play it online, but saying that its relying on that in the same way EA relys on lootboxes, and saying that its going to be the main method of play for most people, is just beyond silly.
>>15758547
Maybe the same people disliking the online arent the same people buying the online
there might be some overlap of 'might as well' but your just assuming everyone is falling into the exact categories you are putting them in.
a48fa6 No.15758627
>>15758609
Can't wait for Nintendo's next financial report, when they brag about 8-10 mil online subscribtions. Just remember what I said when that happens.
a48fa6 No.15758649
>>15758642
>Sunset Overdrive
On PC now.
9f0f54 No.15758656
>>15758627
>Can't wait for Nintendo's next financial report, when they brag about 8-10 mil online subscription
Actually if recent reporting are anything to go by, their online sales are fairly unsavory for Nintendo at the moment. I recall them mentioning they are going to need a better long term plan for their online
Seems most of the people who mentioned not getting the online till its worth it weren't just yelling about.
>Just remember what I said when that happens.
If that does happens, well, congrats. You'll be right on the internet.
Oh how smug you will be.
e8f7a7 No.15758661
aee0d0 No.15758854
aee0d0 No.15758862
>>15758642
>>15758568
>Drown in semen.
Read my post dumpshit. It’s was sarcastic.
>>15758384
Yes that was a pro Xbox one picture.
27b714 No.15758879
> be OP
> complain that Nintendo is failing financially
> it's not
> largest recent downturn was due to their APU manufacturer shitting the bed in other divisions
> say that if Nintendo released a niche game they would make lots of money
> despite the last F-Zero game being a complete critical and financial failure
> F-Zero Climax, a Japan only game, had its western release axed because it sold 10k copies max in Nippon
> still be OP
> still can't stop sucking dicks
323c7c No.15759068
>>15758879
>t. Nintendo damage control
f54f58 No.15759071
>>15759068
>t. Cocksucking National Agency damage control
2a26ab No.15759076
>>15756253
It still hurts.
>>15756964
Here's your (you), nigger.
27b714 No.15759090
>>15759068
> i can't refuse his argument
> i'll just call him a fanboy
> no one will see through my clever ad hominem!
f429fe No.15759258
>>15758879
>the last F-Zero game being a complete critical and financial failure
What
f81797 No.15759263
>The amount of nintendo dickriding in this thread.
Shameful
8e8725 No.15759345
>>15756541
If I recall correctly, NGC was already taken by Neo Geo Pocket Color.
78ea3e No.15759372
>>15759258
it did perform poorly on the market.
27b714 No.15759383
>>15759258
That is not the last F-Zero game that was made.
The fact that you don't know this is proof of how bad the last F-Zero game was, because it was forgettable then, and has been forgotten now.
>>15759372
It didn't do great but it turned a profit.
F-Zero Climax on the other hand…
b5a2cf No.15759411
I'm disappointed in anyone who still supports Nintendo after everything they've done.
dbe25f No.15759427
What Nintendo didn't have on the Wii and GBA is Nintendo Directs. Aside from video editing quality I'm positive marketing for a new F-zero isn't as costly as it seems. The problem is there is no foundation for the series outside of using past games as a gameplay reference. Nintendo will either have to develope an engine in house to run F-Zero graphics on Switch or rely on a third party who has done so. Everyone wants SEGA to make a new F-Zero because of GX but think: What technology dies SEGA have that can run an F-Zero game at high visual detail and 60 fps on Switch today? Sonic Team barely got the Hedgehog Engine 2 to run at 30 FPS. Can't use GX's engine due to the Tegra being different from the GameCube being an all in one chip.
ff0b84 No.15759432
>>15756167
make a new title every once in two decades maybe
20f462 No.15759441
>>15756167
well, they could make one with online
after that i have no idea
6115ec No.15759453
>>15759383
A shame too, Climax is phenomenal as far as Mode 7 F-Zero. Granted Ryu is broken as shit, but still, I enjoy the challenge of modes like Survival Mode.
e752c4 No.15759506
>>15756167
>what can you do with a series that's just racing?
Arguably Mario had no plot at all at first.
69639f No.15759566
>Nintendo is failing financially
What?
Also a new F-Zero will probably only be made if Shiggy can throw some dumb control gimmick on it so maybe it's for the best.
>>15756155
It pisses me off how right you are. Let's Go will still sell well because it's on the Switch and F-Zero never made much money despite it being better then Mario Kart in practically every way.
a48fa6 No.15759584
>>15759566 (checked)
You just made me realize exactly what a new F-Zero would be.
Pics related.
1a85fe No.15760157
8c6d10 No.15760273
Give it up. Your shitty game's dead. Mario Kart blows fag-zero out of the water.
Good fucking riddance.
548daa No.15760289
>>15756498
WipEout isn't dead by a longshot. Omega released last year, made it to the top of sales charts for like a week, got VR support that made VR actually worth buying, and it's the one AG racer that most other games and copycats of the genre draw inspiration from to this day. None of its mechanics were altered for casual appeal and online is still active.
And as always, it took its rightful place back as Playstation's benchmark series, running at native 4K60FPS.
548daa No.15760294
>>15756498
Also
>muh mario kart
Having to not only worry about racing but also enemy weapons take more skill than just racing.
Racing combat games also predate MK by almost a decade.
d9f66a No.15760302
>>15757274
>best selling game on the NES is still Super Mario Bros
Thats because Nintendo sold SMB bundled with the NES when it first came out. And later on they sold NES bundled with SMB+Duck Hunt 2in1 cartridges and a Zapper still got my brothers Zapper, but the NES gone. Thats why Duck Hunt is 2nd place. Meanwhile the PS1 only came with demos.
>not a single Castlevania in the top 30 NES list
I am legit suprised. But atleast there's Metroid.
122ec2 No.15760304
>>15756148
>entitled gweilo
2b5e57 No.15760472
>>15758453
>Make an F-Zero game that isn't an F-Zero game
I want an F-Zero game though. I don't want to play fucking Gran Turismo.
a1a228 No.15760486
>>15758453
fuck gay turismo.
12e95a No.15760489
>>15760472
I dunno, tacking on other wacky stuff to the same core play can work. Think of Star Fox Command, for instance.
2b5e57 No.15760501
>>15760489
Starfox Command is a bad game though.
2e259e No.15760564
'tendo will never fail financially. they put minimal effort into their products across the board from development to advertising they do the bare minimum. everything is a barely different rehash or a copy or a gimmick and why not? the delusional nintoddlers will buy it all up anyway
334eb1 No.15760890
>>15756253
Dual Strike was shit.
2b5e57 No.15760904
>>15760564
Yeah, except when they don't, like the Wii U, or any other Nintendo product that failed. Do you people ever stop to consider the things you say?
823f2f No.15761149
>>15756170
Ironically, a tiny amount of plot might be EXACTLY what is needed to sell F-Zero today. Given that literally everything today's generation knows of F-Zero is "the Captain Falcon game": if they add a couple of cinematics (possibly zooming in on your car so you can see the guy driving it as you perform a victory lap, that sort of thing) a simple story mode with the racers talking trash to each other a bit before a race, and an opening movie that includes FALCOWN PAUNNCCHH in some way, they'd instantly make the game more palatable to the average normalfag Smash player. And the best part is, they wouldn't have to mess with the gameplay at all to do this.
12e95a No.15761191
>>15756300
>>15761149
It's just dawned on me, but… Could Nintendo still be salty about F-Zero because of the anime?
a48fa6 No.15761203
>>15761191
I'd think that GX/AX being a bomb and the GBA one being an even worse bomb would have more of an effect.
What was wrong with the anime? I know nothing about it.
b7de0b No.15761226
>>15756300
>Rumors are that GX/AX was one of the most expensive games they worked on at the time,
Each racer had a several minute long theme song, where the fuck did the money go?
0c7c5e No.15761323
>>15761191
It's not so much the anime as it is the GBA game.
b7de0b No.15761484
>>15761323
All of the GBA ones kind of suck compared to the SNES release.
11de7f No.15761509
>>15761191
They're not salty about F-Zero, they just know that it doesn't sell a lot. It sells well enough and has an audience, but is dwarfed by Mario Kart and other franchises. They've got three major choices:
* Make the game on a small budget and make a decent little profit
* Make the game on a big budget and take a financial loss to appease some fans
* Don't make the game, instead focusing on a series that sells far better to make a much larger profit
Obviously the fans would prefer the first, but that path is really only feasible for small studios and indies now. For big companies, a small profit is a waste of time.
dbe25f No.15761550
>>15761509
You forgot the last option.
>Make a shit mobile game that doesn't appeal to fans but instead appeal to normalfags, call the old fanbase "toxic", and flood the game with microtransactions and loot boxes while shitting on the old fanbase.
8870e1 No.15761569
>>15760472
>I want an F-Zero game though. I don't want to play fucking Gran Turismo.
Then make one.
075b2c No.15761641
>>15761149
>>15761191
They already did that though. GX had the after race interviews and the story mode starring Captain Falcon. The GBA games had an anime tie in that ended with Captain Falcon doing a falcon punch so strong it blew up half the universe. They were the worse selling ones.
b7de0b No.15761745
>>15761641
Whatever story they provided for F-Zero was fucking retarded so it's no wonder why, they even bothered to make models for all the shitty interviews.
a32613 No.15761765
>>15761509
50k a year is still 50k ahead.
27b714 No.15761955
>>15761765
> what is opportunity loss?
9ad38a No.15761990
>>15761955
A financial concept based on speculation and pining for what could have been
306f98 No.15762056
I'm more worried about Metroid 4. It's been over a year and all we've seen is an animated logo. Namco has never made a solid 3d platformer. It was one of the reasons I grabbed a Switch and now I'm thinking it will be another Other M.
306f98 No.15762070
>>15756300
F-Zero GX was the best to date. That graph makes me sad.
11de7f No.15762112
>>15761990
> opportunity cost
> financial concept
No, it's an economics concept that applies to non-financial costs as well. And it's not about pining for what could have been, it's "How can we optimally use our resources for the greatest gain?" Every decision has an opportunity cost.
46d7c0 No.15762153
Why the fuck is this goatshit cuckchan thread still up?
323c7c No.15762737
>>15759090
You have great insight into the inner workings of Nintendo, you're clearly a shill. Give me the publicly available source for your claim about the APU manufacturer shitting the bed.
b666d2 No.15764384
>>15761484
I'd say climax is better than the SNES game, its really good actually; its probably on par with X or so.
9c8975 No.15764805
>>15764384
That's even worse, if Climax sucked shit then the bad sales would make sense. Now it means that no one buys F-Zero even when it's good.
0115bd No.15764835
>>15756167
More than you can do with a series that's just about bing bing wahooing.
2b5e57 No.15765199
>>15764805
SNES and GBA F-Zero do kind of suck though. Impressive for what they did with the technology, maybe, but I'm not going to sit down and play those games for fun.
7f9cec No.15765533
>Nintendo is failing financially because they won't bait me with an old series that won't sell well
anon please, you're killing me here.
01258d No.15765570
>>15765533
>not posting the actual switch-tan
a48fa6 No.15765581
>>15765533
Shit taste.
>>15765570
Worse taste. Yiff in hell.
40c8b3 No.15765613
>>15765581
>>15765533
>>15765570
Those are all terrible kill yourselves.
d1a728 No.15765614
>>15765581
I don't care much for switch dog, but the salt from supporters of the other less popular designs is glorious.
8fabcf No.15765626
>>15765533
>>15765570
>>15765581
>underdeveloped brat dressing up as an old hag
>furryshit
>first pic okay but then it goes into shotashit
Bravo drawfags.
391d2a No.15765641
>>15765626
lmao get fucked aspie
d1a728 No.15765645
>>15765626
What design did you have in mind? There's a drawthread up right now, ask them to draw it.
40c8b3 No.15765649
>>15765641
Nigger tongue my anus.
>>15765645
Not him but the controllers beating the shit out of a gray guy telling him his designs are shit.
d1a728 No.15765669
40c8b3 No.15765681
>>15765669
No thanks I'll draw it myself later and post it in whichever thread is up, right now I'm shoving down breakfast down my throat to get to the gym in time. It's very painful but fulfilling.
5710d1 No.15765689
>>15765626
The Suu & Ichi Twins were among the first to be made, and are the best Switch design anyway.
6daa20 No.15765702
>>15765626
>Not liking straight shota
What are you, gay?
c8e6f4 No.15765706
>>15765626
Shota + older girl is the only pairing that makes sense.
40c8b3 No.15765711
>>15765702
>>15765706
Shota is only excusable if you're under 18 yourself. Now go back to cuckchan, you can circlejerk all you want there, you need to be 18+ to post here.
431d94 No.15765712
>>15765702
>>15765706
>Liking a fetish where a girl dump your ass for a kid
Congratulations, you've cucked yourself to pieces.
40c8b3 No.15765715
>>15765712
Technically shota is self insertion but it makes no sense as far as things go. Normal men jack off to fat old bald businessmen fucking loli's.
2dce40 No.15765718
>>15765712
What part of this don’t you understand, and why are you too stupid to understand it?
6daa20 No.15765721
>>15765711
>Not losing your virginity before 18
>Not perpetually relieving that moment through Straight Shota self-insertion
I pity you.
431d94 No.15765725
>>15765715
>self insertion
They're not kids anymore. If they can self insert as a child of all things, it means their psyche is underdeveloped. Considering all factors, they'd be rejected by their own waifus, who'd rather fuck real children instead.
And what worse fate than that of a manchild who chooses to be cucked by 2D?
40c8b3 No.15765727
>>15765721
Unless you lost it to an older girl still no excuse.
6daa20 No.15765733
>>15765725
Everyone was a kid once, so I don't see how you can as long as you have childhood memories. That's the reason why self-inserting as bald fatman is pathetic.
>>15765727
That's exactly how it is, faggot, but that doesn't stop me from doing it with shota x loli either.
c8e6f4 No.15765737
>>15765715
When it comes to lolis I prefer normal older guys.
Shota isn't really my kind of thing.
>>15765721
>24
>still haven't even kissed a girl
40c8b3 No.15765742
>>15765733
>That's exactly how it is, faggot
Well nigger then see >>15765725, and the bald fatman thing was an exaggeration 90% of actual protagonist are decent skinny guys.
Either way I stopped caring I'm on a schedule and have to go.
431d94 No.15765744
>>15765733
>so I don't see how you can as long as you have childhood memories
Are you a kid now? No? Well, that's because you grew up. That time is over and locked away.
>>15765718
Delusion.
391d2a No.15765747
>>15765727
I did. Lost it when I was 15 to a 17 year old girl neighbor. It definitely wasn't romantic or special though. We were just both horny as fuck.
>>15765737
Just keep hanging out with girls, be somewhat fit, have good hygiene, and don't be a total fuck up. Just try. Can't win if you don't play.
6115ec No.15765758
Dai Goroh was a good shota. The perfect brat.
391d2a No.15765765
>>15765744
Being a fat bald guy gets you literally nowhere.
It's only a Jap thing because japs are low T soy cuckolds. If you're going to be cucked by someone it's either going to be Chad or Tyrone, it's a retarded viewpoint.
You should, however always maintain a child-like strive for innocence and purity, that's the appeal of straight shota. You on the other hand are just a degenerate hedonistic cuckold who gets his kicks over corrupting because of your zionist programming.
>>15765758
Fuck no. That kid looks like a Capuchin monkey.
6115ec No.15765770
>>15765765
>That kid looks like a Capuchin monkey.
I know~! Sucks he not only has the worst machine in the series, he's also likely never coming back alongside the other AX/GX racers.
391d2a No.15765771
>>15765715
>Normal men jack off to fat old bald businessmen
This is literally you, autistic homo poz pig sodomite.
6daa20 No.15765787
>>15765737
Eh, it's not like I've had a lot of sex, only with that sweet onee-san.
>>15765744
No, but I'm certainly not a balding fatman.
>That time is over and locked away.
You say as you browse a video game imageboard. Video games are for kids.
>>15765747
>It definitely wasn't romantic or special though
Can I ask what happened afterwards?
431d94 No.15765788
>>15765765
>Being a fat bald guy gets you literally nowhere.
I didn't say fat old men were better. In fact, they're just as bad as shota. The difference is that one of them is not emasculated and often feminized to an annoying degree, not to mention the raw logic that you're not only self inserting as something you no longer are and will never be ever again, but also something that you fantasize anime girls to prefer over you as you are now. Get the picture, manchild-san?
Now get fucked.
431d94 No.15765794
>>15765765
>>15765787
By the way, it was you who brought fat bald men into the discussion for no apparent reason. Quick to draw attention away from your insecurities, I see.
6daa20 No.15765799
>>15765794
Not really. This is the first mention >>15765715
Try harder.
391d2a No.15765801
>>15765788
>The difference is that one of them is not emasculated and often feminized to an annoying degree
And fat fucks promotes homosexuality and fertilization of sodomy and unhealthy state of body. You are the same sort of pond scum that binge watches rick and morty, is constantly ironic and cynical, and devotes 20% of his daily allowance to Nintendo products. Go back to your Semetic masters you absolute sludge of a "man."
>>15765794
I wasn't the one that did that. Look at the ID's, retard.
>hurrrrrrr why do mean people say bad things when I suck cock? it musd be the same person
401b65 No.15765802
>>15765787
>Video games are for kids.
You know videogames were literally born out of military hardware, right? Of course you don't. They stopped appealing to kids exclusively since about '91.
391d2a No.15765809
>>15765787
>Can I ask what happened afterwards?
Ohohoho man that's a story. Long story short my Mom found out.
391d2a No.15765814
>>15765802
Depends. Japanese games are more oriented for kids due to their wacky nature and colorful graphics.
I could see games like Doom and Chess being more suited for the higher class and more mature individual, but other than that video games have always been made for children.
431d94 No.15765815
>>15765801
None of the shit you're spouting has anything to do with the topic at hand. Not only, that you're also grasping at straws. You really are as much of a pathetic little bitch as your choice of fetish shows. Fuck off now, I'm done with you.
6daa20 No.15765825
>>15765788
>not to mention the raw logic that you're not only self inserting as something you no longer are and will never be ever again
That's literally the whole point of self-insertion.
>>15765802
Then why Mario is a thing, anon?
>>15765809
Feel free to story time
>>15765815
>Shit fetishes
>Posts Nagatoro
Also, nice reflection.
1e0cbc No.15765826
>>15758444
That's because half the games the switch has were being developed for the WiiU.
391d2a No.15765831
>>15765815
Struck a nerve I see? I might move out because I seem to be living rent free in your head.
>None of the shit you're spouting has anything to do with the topic at hand
You didn't even fucking provide one because all your statements boiled down to
>hurrrrrr I suck cock
What type of fucking topic is that? There's no meat on these bones I can't make a fucking stew with that. Instead however it would be waaaayyy more profitable to rile an autist like you and see the sparks fly, which it certainly was.
So go on, keep posting. I look forward to your next post, gamer B^)
7f9cec No.15765836
>>15765826
This is a problem how?
1e0cbc No.15765863
>>15765836
I never said it was a problem. I'm just pointing out Zelda was supposed to be a WiiU exclusive and I bet my ass some of the games of that list that aren't ports would have been like that too.
280067 No.15767355
>>15765815
<I can't refute a single thing you said because all your statements about fat men being queers, sodomites, and drains on society are base don cited facts and I am this much of an emotional pussy
I love that you overweight fucks are so pozz'd and emotionally charged that you willingly provide yet more proof of the other anon's accusations. I hope your dear father is already dead so that he does not have to live with the burden of knowing that you are what his son became.
f12e68 No.15767407
>>15767355
>cited facts
Hold on, you didn't cite jack shit. Are you arguing poorly on purpose to make it seem as if being fat isn't bad?
69639f No.15768185
>>15765711
>>15765712
>>15765715
>>15765721
>>15765725
>>15765727
>trying to muddy the fetish with psychoanalysis
It's simpler then that. /ss/ fetish is mostly just exploiting the size/height difference and an excuse for the "older" girl showing a more innocent younger guy the ropes. Because of this set up, what happens as portrayed in hentai is that the sex depicted often more sensual and more romantic (even if there's lite femdom) as the older girl often almost "mothers" the kid during sex (even if in reality it's more predatory). This sensuality in sex is obviously appealing to some. That's it.
Fat man/Dilf with girl or loli is usually the exact opposite, often the sex depicted is lacking any sort of sensuality and the girl never connects with the fat man since they are often faceless and they are treated like whores due to the older man spearheading the sex (that is often more rough). Compare the usual /ss/ to the girl/loli with fat man and you'll see what I mean.
sage since this has gone really offtopic now
ac8e8a No.15768400
nintendo isn't dying financially because you don't like them. sales numbers dont lie you immeasurably gigantic mouthbreathing cocksucking retard
bf2b07 No.15768501
>>15761509
GX HD with online when? you don't even have to think up a new system or mechanics