/v/ - Video Games

Should I bother with setting up the whole market thing? I could use some plat but making an account and actually listing all the shit I have makes me put it off.

>>15756062

>You're supposed to link your account

>To a 3rd party website

Nah, i'm MR 21 or 22. Just have so much prime/ducatfodder/rivens that I dread having to manually put them all up. But apparently I was mistaken how that site works?

>>15756088

Maybe you can make brand new account, I dunno.

But at MR22 you should realize that your alternatives are far less comfortable. Disсоrd? Leddit? Fucking official forums? I'd rather use 3rd party shit that just works thank you.

>>15756214

>I'm going to be able to make my first prime frame!

It's amazing how I knew it was Hydroid before I even looked at the spoiler. Is that nigger ever going to get vaulted?

>>15756214

>Hydroid

Good choice for starters. See if you can nab Pilfering Swarm if you have not already to maximize your investment.

>>15756379

Warframe's TA are weebs with overdeveloped imagination, who like to make up their own head canons, dress up and come up with different builds.

If you like to just see digits go up, you might want to play something else.

>>15755993

Honestly, that's probably the best course of action, given that the experience won't change much beyond what you initially experienced. Sure, there are some better weapons and each frame has its own special abilities, but at its core, it will just be "kill these mobs" and "defend this point" and "survive until the timer goes down" over and over again ad infinitum.

>>15756010

>on-rail-grinans like Destiny or Division

I don't know how you can suggest that when this game is just as straightforward and braindead as those ones, albeit with a different aesthetic and some features that perhaps make it stand out more.

>>15756639

>weebs

<canadian game

<SJW canadian game

You're probably not wrong but still makes very little sense.

>>15756672

WF is inspired by Guyver and MGS, the weebest of shits.

Do your research before posting please.

As for being braindead, it's not game's fault you're too stupid to use its mechanics in imaginative way instead of just replaying the same fucking missions in the same fucking way with the same fucking builds.

>>15756677

Someone post the mlp frame thread

i like how the start of these threads is always whether you should play or not. the answer is always arguing leading to a resounding "no". I have 1200 hours and all of them are over the last 5 years, during periods where I was depressed or needed to feel good about "accomplishing" something. don't get involved, work on your backlog

Who's dick do I gotta suck to get a launcher buff? Fucking Mirage ruins everything by existing.

>>15756707

because people who post in the thread about not playing, like myself, aren't going to stay and argue with the dopamine/skinner box circlejerk addicted shits like yourself.

every time i've played another game with a conclusive end, i've felt better and enjoyed myself way more than any of the 1200 hours i've spent on warframe. its a freemium game with passable gameplay and is, now, compared to what the game was/could have been, a corpse driven by jews and retards like yourself.

>>15756677

That may be the case, but I would think that weebs would only be interested products that come from Japan. It's more like this game's target audience is children and young adults who want a Destiny alternative and who have very normalfag tastes in practically everything. In fact, it'd be easier to say that this game's primary audience is reddit.

>>15756683

>Guyver and MGS

That seems pretty retarded.

>Do your research

I don't need to do research to know that you're full of shit

>As for being braindead, it's not the game's fault you're too stupid to use its mechanics in imaginative ways

Please, enlighten me on how you can be imaginative when the bulk of the missions that you'll face will ask you to do the same shit over and over again? "Oh, I know! I use a different weapon!" Yeah, real imaginative.

You're just a DE cocksleeve whale and you probably whore yourself out for platinum so you can be the first to have all the shiny but meaningless cosmetics and other useless shit the game has to offer.

>>15756707

You're the same astroturfing shitter who comes here and shits up with thread with 60+ posts of your autism, aren't you?

>>15756735

Nigga, stop embarrassing yourself.

>>15756724

You too.

>>15756739

You're the embarrassment. Kill yourself, you cocksmoking faggot.

>>15756739

>no substance, just 2 word ad hom, attempting to sound superior by being succinct

<you just end up embarrassing yourself

and with that, im gonna go finish pathologic and leave you to your hugbox autism

Switch version is great, now I can grind while I'm at work

>>15756797

Plays fine to me, 30fps, only had 1 brief dip thus far, looks pretty identical to the ps4 version.

All in all, not bad for a soytablet.

>>15756820

Maybe one of the vaulted relics?

Or they really want that Lato Vandal Receiver

I wonder if Cetus will be reworked so the traders and prices work in the similar range than Fortuna. Donating minerals and fish has always been worthless in reward, and blueprints/cosmetics are preposterously expensive, too. The bounties give even less rep than Fortuna, too!

I would certainly hope so.

Just started.

How long until it doesn't take fucking forever to kill everything?

>>15758681

What do you mean? I'm one shooting everything with my bow and pistol. Just aim for the head.

is the game good yet?

>>15758765

Depends on what you want out of a free to play ninja flipping gun crafting PvE game

>>15758681

Learn mods.

You don't get stronger by just leveling up, it only gives room for more mods.

Oh wow, the switch version let's you adjust motion blur, ambient occlusion, gpu particles and shit like that.

Do the other console versions allow you to adjust graphical settings?

>>15759046

Subhumans playing on consoles won't even be able to tell the difference.

Looking at the Region chat on Switch Warframe has reminded me that it might be for the best Nintendo does what they do with Switch online, the shitposting is intense and the game has only been out for 12 hours

>>15756758

You're right but also gay

Is 1k plat valuable anymore? I stopped playing about 2.5 years ago

>>15759568

Compared to the other consoles and PC how intense is their shitposting on there?

Is it Miiverse levels of shitposting?

>>15759593

>Is it Miiverse levels of shitposting?

Yes

Dabs for days, and stories about their wife's BFs for days

People kept asking Rebecca to not wear a bra

>>15759583

>1k plat

That depends.

You can buy like 8-10 prime frames or weapons with that.

But you can also buy meta riven mod for like 3k and one shot eidolons with it.

>>15759758

As far as I remember Jackal is some entry robot dog boss that later is reused as regular enemy, what's wrong with it?

>>15755993

How did it take you 6 hours to reach Venus? I legit don't understand how it could take that long.

>>15759770

It has tracking missiles which move more slowly than a lethargic amputee.

That's the most troublesome part of the fight.

Other than that it's more tedious than difficult, a phrase which describes most of warframe.

>>15759777

Checked.

>>15759777

After that post, I beat him 2 times, I just had to Melee his legs and time my jumps

>>15759799

I generally go through at least 5 while farming for those new toroids or whatever they're called for little duck. They're kind of a speed bump compared to those fucking spiders.

>>15759809

Now 3 times, yeah, seems like the boss gets easier when you figure out what to do, I'm actually kind of excited if bosses play out like this, with patterns and tricks.

getting it down kinda puts you in the zone.

cool, now I got 2 of the 3 blueprints I need for Rhino

>>15759813

In general yeah. The game is very much about starting as playing the game as a shooter with 'floaty' combat in general. As you progress you'll start realizing that after certain breaking points the game is basically like speed running and this isn't expressed anywhere nearly as well as bosses. In general they have increasingly complicated shticks. Like Lech Kril is invincible, you have to attack his tubes until they break, then wait for an attack to cause him to freeze himself and then you can damage him. This can make them ungodly annoying to fight the first time or two when you have literally no idea what you are doing, then after a few times you understand what you have to do and are able to do it easily, then you do it so much farming the warframe parts that you are basically seeing how fast you can do it to get more runs in.

Also just so you're aware. When you farm a boss for a while they will eventually get tired of your shit and put a hit out on you, which means when you are playing a random mission one of 3 assassin units will spawn and try and take you out in one case you can actually be captured and lose a warframe until you complete a special mission just be aware that these units are no joke, but their rewards tend to be pretty good.

>>15759863

>Also just so you're aware. When you farm a boss for a while they will eventually get tired of your shit and put a hit out on you

What? No. Stalker is the only one who comes after you for killing bosses and killing a boss just once is enough to put you on his shit list. Zanuka Hunter and the Grustrag Three only invade if you've done 5 Invasion missions against their respective faction.

>>15759915

Really? Huh. Learn something new every day. I rarely do the invasion missions, so I suppose I never realized the distinction. Silly me.

>>15759919

It's understandable. Stalker has a pretty low spawn chance. He seems to spend more time sending hate mail than actually hunting Tenno.

From a new player's perspective I could see one thinking that there's a threshold or something from receiving so much hate mail until Stalker actually shows up.

However you need only be receive his hate mail once to be "marked for death" and he sends it religiously anytime you kill a boss from any faction. From there there are some restrictions on what missions he can spawn in, but it's only a 2% chance if you're the only marked player in your group (up to 3.5% if all four players are marked). Once one of you is dead the mark disappears until you kill another boss. Thankfully his best item, the Dread, drops pretty regularly, but his other two weapons you probably won't see for years; thankfully they aren't game changers. After a certain quest his drop pool will change, diluting the drop chances for those other weapons while adding other stuff that will be obnoxious to obtain.

The other two units mark you for death in the conditions I already stated and have the same chances of spawning as Stalker, albeit only in their respective faction's tilesets. ZH drops Detron parts which some people have had trouble completing, but thankfully Baro sells a better version of it anyways. G3 drops parts for the Brakk which was the go-to pocket shotgun back in the day. I have yet to complete it.

It would also make sense if the other two would assassins would show up after killing faction bosses multiple times, but that unfortunately isn't the case. It would actually be a lot more flavorful and thematic if completing Invasions and killing faction bosses triggered death marks from them while Stalker, who is canonically forever booty blasted, has you permanently marked for death.

I recommend doing Invasions since they are a better way of obtaining Fieldrons, Detonite Injectors, and Mutagen Masses than actually building them I haven't actually played in months, but Fortuna bounties might also be a good source as well as all the old event weapon parts and the odd Exilus Adapter, Potato, or even Forma BP (if you really need it). They always seem to rotate to Defense when I go to do them, but shitty rng aside you can blow through most of them with Ember. However if you don't have autism and don't care about leveling all the weapons then you can mostly skip them.

>>15759968

Just read the thread anon, he admitted he didn't figure out gameplay mechanics before complaining, and now he's farming poor canine like little bitch it is.

What frame it drops again? I remember farming it for something a long-long time ago too.

Where do I get primed mods?

>>15760608

From baro, NPC that appears every two weeks on one of the relays. Chances are he sells a primed mod, most of the time he doesnt though

Doesn't it feel strange to play a game where the Chinese-owned developers have detectable contempt for you and your way of life?

>>15759758

I stopped playing when I realized even the events are the same 5 mission types during the acolyte thing.

>>15760645

Is that the only way? That's pretty shit.

I'm missing loads of mods and auras, I'm up to Sedna ~ lvl 40+ enemies and its hard.

>>15761272

You can also get them from other players, just make sure you don't get jew'd. Don't pay more than 70p for one, unless it's max rank.

Give it to me straight.

How horrifying is Top Reputation Fortuna? I've heard some players who made it to the top are looking for fixes or tweaks to roll it back because they can't handle it. I don't wanna spoil myself on it but it sounds concerning.

>>15761272

Id look up some of the rarer mods you can farm that work in most builds and go for those anon. Stuff like Berserker are useful on every melee. And if you haven't done it yet, get your corrupted mods man, makes shit waaaay easier and opens up a lot of crazy builds.

>>15759775

it didnt take 6 hours to reach venus, by the time I wrote that I had spent 6 hours total, counting non story missions on both planets to unlock the nodes

>>15761498

it's literally fucking nothing, it just makes one of the npcs look fucking awful

>>15762148

Really? What I heard made it sound like every npc in there turned into unbearable body horror nightmare fuel, which easy to see coming given the theme, but It sounded way worse.

>>15762187

Look at the OP pic. It's literally that.

>>15755985

>do level 4 and 5 missions

>can't get higher rep because drops from level 1 and 2 generate gear for moving forward

>need to do levels 1 2 and 3 multiple times just to get to the higher levels of ranking with the locals

Great job DE. Make me do the same missions but with even less challenge.

>>15762187

no it's not at all unless you think krang is a nightmare. It's really awful looking because DE can't do human faces. it's nothing body horror at all, it also makes like 90% of their animations not make any sense because it makes no real sense

>>15762229

>>15762213

Well shit, It's dissapointing in a way; I guess I wanted another big fancy reveal from my F2P grinding game.

Away with that, then. I'm pumping out prime weapons and frames, what's a good way to get orokin cells fast? I

>>15760083

Jackal drops Rhino, the make everything easy-frame.

>>15762248

Kill Sargas ruk a lot, or organize a farming party in recruiting chat and go to some dark sector node or infinite relic mission.

>>15762248

After a certain point it seems to me like you just start amassing Orokin cells passively without even noticing it, I've got hundreds more than I could ever bother to use.

>>15762248

>>15762289

Other option is helene, good for levelling fast while also farming cells.

>>15762248

I can confirm >>15762379

Helene is a great mission to farm them as well as hit up some gear grinding. Lots of people play that map with higher level stuff too, I know I run it all the time for cells.

At higher levels you can get nekros or hydroid and that place kind of becomes the de-facto cell grind location. Nekros has an ability that makes all enemies roll for loot drops a second time and hydroid has tentacles that steal from any enemies that get in them. You can really pump out the cells on a lucky run with one of those in the party.

Eventually you can also get a cat companion that gives you a random buff about once a minuite, one of the possible buffs is just the rare drop from that planets loot table, which so happens to be the cell.

Also grab an extractor. After you clear every mission on a map you will be allowed to deploy an extractor that will 'mine' that planets drop table for a few hours and give it to you for free. You don't get to many, and mostly this is a way to keep a flow of lower level materials coming in, but it is possible to get the rare drop. It's always fun getting free cells from your extractor.

Though if you're interested in getting a cell 'NOW' then go kill Ruk or a few other bosses, they have like a 50% drop chance and once you know it it's way faster for getting 1 or 2 for something. Farming helene is really more for 'I'll level up some gear, get some relic drops and by the time i'm done i'll have around 10 cells for when i need them'

>>15762580

>>15762379

Looks like I got something to do for the day, thanks for the advice.

>>15762756

Just keep in mind that last I checked the Index is bugged and won't give you your First Mission Credit Bonus of the day even though it says it does.

>get to jordas golem

What the fuck is this horseshit.

>>15762882

Get a squad with corrosive projection.

It's hell otherwise.

>>15762756

If you want to farm credits solo, then go to hieracon as limbo or frost, do two excavators and leave. You get 50,000 credits on each completion. It's faster to do index in a squad, but you can do hieracon on your own schedule and can do just one run if it suits you.

>>15762882

It's not too bad with a Velocitus and Itzal. The real problem is the game hardly incentivises you to work on Archwings and their weapons so he's going to seem insurmountable with, say, an Imperator and Odonata with barely any mods on them. Or this >>15762904

>>15763501

>he bought the prime armor

Is this game worth getting into? I live in the same city as DE so I just assumed if it was made in this shithole it has to suck.

>>15763580

It's a fun grind game that's free to play. Focuses more heavily on movement than shooting, but the shooting is serviceable.

>>15763551

Steve is my Todd Howard.

>>15763583

So I gave it a shot, finished the tutorial questline, and I guess dropped into somewhere and started a bounty. Someone else joined my squad, ran ahead, and ended up causing a bunch of huge fat mobs to spawn that raped me. Is this supposed to be retarded and confusing?

>>15763716

>buying the shiny jew

I've bet you have tennogen items too faggot

>>15764197

the big fat mobs are from rival syndicates, basically as you rank up in one syndicate, 2 others hate you until they will randomly spawn fat mobs into your mission

>>15764351

>time

yea basically

>money

wew

also its more like destiny is trying to be this, destiny is pretty shit, this is also shit but its much better shit

>>15764351

Would've been perfect bait without that watermark, but now it's just wasted potential.

>>15764224

Paying for cosmetics is ok.

Buy plat.

>>15764351

It's Destiny that tries to be Warframe and fails.

Also

>why there are microtransactions in free to play game?!

Buy more DLCs faggot.

Which are the best moas/kitguns?

I have yet to invest in these memes.

>>15764586

Apparently they all can use the same mods, so just go by the numbers or aesthetics.

How do I get to the mar's junction, I see the plains blocking my chain to it

>>15764591

the plains dont block shit, you maybe have to load once into cetus and thats it

>>15764586

the memeta hasnt settled yet

>>15764591

IIRC you need to do a single bounty on the plains

>>15764593

>the memeta hasnt settled yet

It's settled, all that's left is for plebbit to find out. Catchmoon/haymaker/splat with pax seeker is miles ahead of the other kitguns and is legitimately worth using. I sold my rep as pax seeker arcanes for 300p each when what passes for "hardcore" in warfarm caught on a few days ago, but from trade chat activity word got out and the market's collapsing with a rapid acceleration in people selling their rep. Again, plebbit has yet to have its nose rubbed in it so there'll probably be a brief upswing whenever whatever faggot streamer they watch tells them what to believe and they exchange GBP for an advance on their Christmas platinum.

But, "legitimately good modular weapon and arcane" should set off those alarm bells. Can't have new things people actually want, you know. Unless it's from the market.

As for MOAs, they're dogshit. Build them cheap for mastery if you need it or wait for all the fucking parts they were supposed to come with to be released. They've actually gotten worse with hotfixes so don't expect those to save them.

>>15764894

>>15764953

was on the fence about trying this game for a while and I happened to come across these posts while browsing the front page. thank you for turning me away from this garbage forever.

>>15764953

The rush fees are top shelf bullshit for new players, though. There's a week or two where they will feel gated by not having enough crafting simultaneously.

>>15764243

Syndicates attacking people would be such a good PvP instance if DE wasn't autistically afraid of implementing PvP at all. Imagine an enemy Warframe with a similar MR dropping out of nowhere to fuck your shit up, one life only.

>a few hours ago some guy asks about why something isn't working as he expects

>tell him it's DE math

>he goes away

>look into it further

>it's a bug feature unknown to the community that can greatly boost damage

>spend the last several hours figuring out the math and how to exploit it

>now buying up trash rivens that exploit it

My home is heated by the friction of my hands rubbing.

>>15765386

>Doesn't mention what the exploit is

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>>15765482

I will in a few weeks, I just started riven shopping an hour ago.

>>15765610

>what is the eververse

>>15765644

Eververse sells emotes, vehicles and special skins. You don't get exotic weapons or gear.

>>15765610

Destiny has worse microtransactions than Warframe by a mile.

Yeah in warframe you CAN buy frames and weapons but you don't have to.

>>15765644 (checked)

Eververse is cancer

What did DE do this time?

Heh, nice pun, OP. You faggot, I hope the repo squads come for you and steal your unused sexual organs and surgically replace them with ball bearings and a copper pipe you dim witted ass muncher

>>15764952

Just sold a trash catchmoon riven for 400p, probably could have gotten a better price for it but whatever. Fortuna content can go fuck itself anyway, bugged out piece of shit keeps instafailing me during bounties.

>Need to be Mastery Rank 12+ In order to use Rivens

>Get Rivens way earlier than that, cockteasing you.

>Before I even have a chance to use them or even figure out wtf I am to do with them, they suddenly change

>Have no idea what the fuck those changes are or how they've effected builds before I even got to try them out

Are they fucked, /v/?

Last time I played was for the Sacrifice quest. What else have I missed aside from Fortuna?

I reinstalled the game and found out I got 700 plat worth of bullshit then realize the game sucks and I dunno if I ever wanna actually play it again.

No I'm not giving you these items

>>15765755

DE doesn't understand their own game so rivens are both OP and unstable. This time there was a brief flash of awareness that they can't adjust dispositions without completely destroying tons of rivens as players build for thresholds, but they only had this insight for status chance kohms which they agreed were ridiculous but KEPT AS-IS. Everyone else who built to hit thresholds like 125%+ crit castanas got fucked. Like me. They wiggled balance by a few meaningless percent that would have affected nothing were it not for it dropping mine to 123.8% crit. No more guaranteed orange crits. So rather than lose a couple percent crit, it effectively lopped off 100% crit as I have to treat it as if I might yellow crit. Thousands of plat gone. For no fucking reason as the nerf wasn't enough of a nerf to change anything. I'm still mad because it took months to find that riven and it was absolutely perfect.

The only way to adjust these things in a sensible way is to either grandfather them or have a damage coefficient rather than a stat coefficient but they have no idea how to balance anything so sensible will never happen.

But you're fine.

>>15765837

Just give me the plat then ;^)

>>15765850

sure when you succ me off

So what's the gud weapon at the moment?

>>15766147

Ignis and Atomos. Ignis has wraith version.

Flamethrowers are hot these days.

>>15765847

>leave the kohm as is

Whew.

I have a status kohm riven that I got just by pure luck of the draw.

After unveiling, selling and using rivens I can safely say that you shouldn't bother unveiling them. 7/10 times it's completely useless and you'll sell it for 3-5 platinum shekels, 1/10 you'll want to keep it and 2/5 you can sell it for the same price as a veiled riven. Just sell them to the cash cattle. If you really can't resist then unveil a few, but don't stock up on them.

>>15766147

If you can tolerate twitch, then you can get an easy vectis prime which will kill any trash mob enemy and the one behind him with a body shot. Bullet sponges will die in one headshot.

The lenz is fun and good if you can avoid killing yourself.

Opticor is a bit of a meme gun, but after its hitbox buff it's genuinely good.

Baza/tenora if you want a generic asault rifle.

100% status Tigris prime is still the king against anything but nullifiers.

Catchmoon seems to be the meta kitgun.

Polearms and heavy blades are the best melee weapons but who knows what will happen when melee 2.0 drops the ball.

>>15766192

You mean melee 3.0.

I was genuinely upset when they postponed it for 2019.

Can't wait for this trainwreck.

>>15766066

>itsjustagamefag

I can't imagine living like you, wallowing in mediocrity. If you play a game, play to win. What do you even play this for otherwise, Barbie dress-up? The ego-stroking of missions on fixed timers hiding that you're total shit?

>>15766192

>I have a status kohm riven that I got just by pure luck of the draw.

Every noob does, you only have to roll one fucking stat, it's why they were too afraid to touch it. There aren't many hardcore players so whoever got handed the "nerf rivens" task turned to us for the bucket of blood. But they were timid about it (probably because whoever was told to do it knew it wasn't viable) and did this "b-but just maybe 5% ok pls don't be mad" bullshit that doesn't really change balance at all, it's just enough to cause a shit ton of damage to existing builds. It also made the high-end uneasy as everyone sees it as a trial run and not a real balance pass and that unease crashed prices (technically froze prices as they stopped trading) of all high-end rivens (15k+).

>>15766192

I don't even know what this shit is

Some really fucking ugly Tennogen this time. Still no decent helmet for Khora.

>>15767127

I bought plat when I got a massive coupon for it off and I only spent it on more space for weapons & warframes and I still didn't fucking have enough space I didn't buy much plat though so whatever

>>15767127

Why is it that games about space autism, both Warframe and Eve, seem to succeed despite the devs (DE and CCP respectively) not knowing how or why the game is good in the first place?

I think there's some kind of trend happening but I can't put my finger on it.

>>15767639

Cause space artists are so desperate they will take the game and run with it before the devs know what hit them, then they have to struggle to figure out what happened after the rabid fanabse has already formed.

>>15756214

>37 days

>only 1 prime

Nigger what the fuck are you doing, go to derelict to farm corrupt mods, or burn relics and sell the shit you get, I make hundreds or plat each week doing that, use it to buy the parts you need, farming for each part yourself is cancer.

>>15767639

probably the same reason sci-fi lit fans, star trek and star wars were the early symptoms of the wide-spread fandom / autism epidemics in the 20th century

space just does something to people's mind that captures them and turns them autistic

this game is fucking shit, gave it 4 hours and it's just shit gameplay with what looks like a neverending grind attached to it. pass.

>>15767841

Yeah you have ADHD we get that.

Play some mario or sonic, it will make you feel better.

>>15767841

Did you at least learn all the controls? Did you do the advanced movement tutorial?

>>15767127

>being unaware that they've avoided changing dispositions for so long people thought they might have learned something about how their game works

It's amusing how you read that whole rant and ignore that it's about their fuckawful attempts at balance and how blindly destructive it is despite not getting the desired results and instead react jelly and try digging the knife in to feel better about your own poverty. Watching stupidity destroy something that was absolute perfection will make me mad every time as I'm not a real Jew.

>>15764952

>But, "legitimately good modular weapon and arcane" should set off those alarm bells.

aaaaand nerfed by 24.1.0. Wonder how many of you took my market advice and sold your rep as pax seeker for 150p each before the nerf blew them to 50p.

>>15768221

It's a game where people complain about any player that isn't "going fast". It's a game where all the "good" players just sprint to the exit and ignore 99% of the enemies or the map. It's amazing that you can be claiming that others have ADHD. You're so unable to accept that someone doesn't like your game that you defend it by throwing out completely baseless accusations, oblivious to that those accusations can be applied to all the dedicated Warframe players. You're a fucking fanboy, so in love with a game that you ignore all objective truth just to insult anyone that doesn't like it.

>>15769017

Do you know what ADHD even means?

Yes the endgame of warframe is speedrunning. Do you even understand what kind of person you have to be in order to effectively speedrun your shit and how much time it takes to learn, optimize and perfect action sequences you need to pull where large number the same tiles are assembled in random combinations?

>You're so unable to accept that someone doesn't like your game

It's perfectly fine to not like any game. But that faggot openly admitted that he couldn't be assed to even learn the basics and that the whole enterprise was too confusing for him.

If you can't even bother to learn something before deciding whether you like it or not, you're most definitely ADHD.

>fanboy

>objective truth

<hater

<objective truth

See, both can play this game. Not an argument.

Finally got around to playing since the new update. I know DE can't write, but I think this is the worst they've done so far.

<Heya offworlder there's this guy who needs your help

<WHY ARE YOU HELPING HIM YOU'RE MAKING EVERYTHING WORSE

<It's okay, we stopped Nef from finding out who he is.

>Nef repos some dudes

>Okay done, BUT HEY turns out the previous quest was a waste of time since Nef magically knows who fucked with him and repos him hard

<T-this is my fault

<NO IT'S ACTUALLY YOUR FAULT FOR GETTING INVOLVED

<No, actually go up topside I have another quest for you

<We'll be totally alright if we just kiss Nef right on the tip of his cock

>Nef HAS to start the testing on the new doohicky now, that they make clear will destroy everything if he does it.

>He doesn't do it for leverage, just blind stupidity

>He tests the thingy and nothing happens

>Dumb bitch offers her name and takes responsibility

>Except now she snaps and finally decides to stop cucking out

>K-bomb you deliver is just Volt's 4 with no damage

>Dumb bitch goes full Laughing Man/ Anonymous and Nef is shocked. Somehow unable to put two and two together to figure out who it is

>Somehow has cyborg workers with no CCTV jammed up everyone's waste chute as well

<Okay we need to get you past his giant spider and we have just the vehicle for that. No, not your Archwing which can fly literally anywhere, but this silly hoverboard

>Nef is constantly nervous in front of invisible investors which is just dumb, he's not even foolishly confident at first.

>Nef is somehow completely incapable of wiping out Solaris as an example and replacing the debtors with loyal Corpus until inevitably more debtors take their place.

<You will honor the ancient pact between Solaris and Corpus

>That implies to me a bunch of dumb bullshit that has nothing to do with the premise

>Quest complete. Please admire how stronk this dumb bitch is.

To top it all off you get a BP for a Warframe who had absolutely nothing to do with the quest yet again. I don't even know why they hype these frames up if they're not going to give them anything beyond just saying what their basic personality is.

Furthermore they still haven't fixed one of my biggest gripes, which is every enemy being a sharpshooter. Thankfully this terrain is much more vertical so they usually will have to come to you, but if you have a defense objective a moa will get LOS, hunker down, and start shooting at it, not unaccurately, from miles away.

>>15769083

Just a couple of things you got wrong:

<Heya offworlder there's this guy who needs your help

<WHY ARE YOU HELPING HIM YOU'RE MAKING EVERYTHING WORSE

She tells you to help him by buying his crap. Then she finds out your helping him with an heist and goes mad because that will atract problems. Perfectably understandable.

>Somehow unable to put two and two together to figure out who it is

Suposedly, Solaris Laughing Man has been around before, a long ass time ago. And he didn't find out back then who it was. Just someone protecting Debtors. It shows up again to protect another Debtor, there's 0 reason for him to suspect her.

>has cyborg workers with no CCTV

They hint that they got secure channels to speak to one another (and not using them caused Legs to be repo'd).

>wiping out Solaris as an example

An example to who? Solaris ARE the debtors, kill them all and there's no more to "learn" from it. not to mention the massive investment loss since the Venus Revival essentially freezes AH. He could replace them with Loyal Corpus, but Loyal corpus demand wages (Jews jewing Jews). Debtors work for free.

>ancient pact between Solaris and Corpus

The quest does a piss poor job at exploring this, but basically, the Corpus are a very large and diverse group. Some are good fellas (Perrin Sequence) and others straight up Telaviv tier Nef). A fuckton of time ago, Solaris had a nifty deal with the rest of the Corpus faction (since making deals is their thing).

Anyone too far in debt could come work and pay it off, and Corpus would hold off Repossessing their asses.

Nef adquired rights to explore Venus and employ Solaris as his workers but he breaks that pact by repossessing parts as punishment and disciplining. Pretty sure other Corpus factions would not like to hear about that shit.

The rest is pretty much on the money. They could have placed some anti-air to justify the K-drive instead of archwing. The K-bomb was underwhelming (no blowing up a base?)

And while I like Garuda, they could have at least did something with her theme.

Like an old "Haunted House" sort of ruin in Venus where Garuda hides and slaughters Corpus that wander in. Just say she was frozen and Corpus unfroze her. Bam, you'd even get a decent Halloween event.

Atleast she's somewhat fun to use.

>>15756820

ESO is superior for levelling weapons. It can take as little as two zones. Others who leave that early are the naive few who think they can get a long run out of random matchmaking, and see that no one is going to carry them.

>>15758681

Damage types affect enemies differently. Fire & slash vs cloned flesh, corrosive & puncture vs armor, magnetic & impact vs shields, etc. If you mod a weapon to have corrosive element, it will deal corrosive damage on every shot, but the weapon's Status Chance determines whether or not those shots will also permanently strip a portion of enemy armor. That's called a Status Proc. Every damage type has a different proc effect that's good for different situations.

>>15762224

Ticker sells those. The ones that aren't dropped by higher-tier bounties are cheap as fuck when bought.

>>15764586

Rattleguts Haymaker Slapneedle is my favorite so far. Crits well, statuses okay, huge magazine, fire rate fast enough to empty it quickly but slow enough that I can treat it like a revolver. Pax Seeker is insane, so get that asap and you can technically kill like 240 people in one magazine if you hit all headshots.

I'm also tired of arca plasmor and one of those pistol heads everyone wanks over is arca plasless.

>>15769107

They said they didn't have time to include Garuda's history on Fortuna's launch, and they'll do it later. I think it's just going to be in the form of scannable easter eggs like Cetus's glass fish. I'd have preferred a quest and maybe we'll get one, like when first runs of frame quests give rivens to people who already have that frame.

>>15769107

>She tells you to help him by buying his crap. Then she finds out your helping him with an heist and goes mad because that will atract problems. Perfectably understandable.

I'll be honest, I was listening to a podcast during that part of the quest.

>Suposedly, Solaris Laughing Man has been around before, a long ass time ago. And he didn't find out back then who it was. Just someone protecting Debtors. It shows up again to protect another Debtor, there's 0 reason for him to suspect her.

I imagined that was her before she gave up. He has every reason to suspect her since no one showed up to get repo'd. Someone lower on the totem pole couldn't allow that. In Nef's eyes she should at least appear as an accomplice or complicit and therefore a suspect.

>They hint that they got secure channels to speak to one another (and not using them caused Legs to be repo'd).

No, I got that they have magical encrypted communication, I don't have a problem with that. I mean literally putting mics and cameras all over Fortuna and even in their voice modulators. Corpus tilesets have cameras fucking everywhere, but not here?

>An example to who?

They'd mentioned early on something that implied to me there was more around elsewhere. Regardless considering how Nef is so worried about his investors you'd think he'd take the slight profit loss and just send Corpus at that point. Of course we have no game then, but I still think there is a better way to tackle the "corporate man learns to respect the working class that supports him" angle.

>Anyone too far in debt could come work and pay it off

That's not too bad, but it ruins the impression I had going in: That this was the result of an Ancap paradise and Nef was just exercisng his rights as a property owner. The fact that there's a NAP

being violated kinda ruins it for me.

Also I forgot I wanted to complain about

<Well we're about to be overrun I imagine you'll want to leave despite helping us this whole time.

<But you know you're the only thing standing between us and oblivion. Just thought I'd really lay the guilt on thick.

Personally I think they could have shown off the K-drive by making you do the very old "race through these checkpoints" challenge under the guise of riling up the Corpus. That's at least fitting. You're a punk skater riling up the establishment. Or better yet go to a specific camp and do tricks.

>Like an old "Haunted House" sort of ruin in Venus where Garuda hides and slaughters Corpus that wander in. Just say she was frozen and Corpus unfroze her. Bam, you'd even get a decent Halloween event.

That is a good idea tbh.

>>15756817

Are you using motion controls? I am, and it's a step up from using a stick alone.

Could have used that hollowed out Orokin tower in the far corner of the Vallis near the edge of the storm as a place where you'd run into her. It would have been better than just "Hey Tenno check out what we found while you solved our life for us" At least Gara had a good reason for only showing up in tales and background lore, since she blew up a fucking nuke on the sentient from the inside.

Hopefully they slap that on later down the road.

>>15769487

I figure they are going to add a lot more to fortuna, like 70% of the map isnt used. There are also those huge lights behind the clouds/smoke, guess it will reveal some huge construction/robot later.

>>15769266

>Then they'd jam them :^)

That's not how that works at all. If they "jammed them" then that would send up all sorts of red flags. Even if they cut in prerecorded footage that couldn't work forever. A much better solution would be to simply say "Nef doesn't watch us very closely. He doesn't think he has to." This fits perfectly in the theme of the quest. It establishes Nef's confidence, Solaris' hopelessness, and the wrinkle in the situation that can change all that.

>There could have been a lot more, yes, but it was not really needed to tell such a simple story.

I didn't say I wanted more. I just want it to be at least remotely competent; especially since it's a simple story with much less to fuck up.

>That's pretty much what this is, just slightly worse since they'll also foreclose your head, limbs and rig.

No shit sherlock. That's why I called it an Ancap paradise.

I'm already thinking of how it could have been better.

>Talk to Eudico

>She gives you the run down. Nef is a tyrant who violates the spirit of the contract with Solaris and everyone is just trying to get by and to not cause any trouble. Directed to buy from Legs as normal.

<Establishes that they aren't just debtors, but contractors as well as the obvious good guys and bad guy

>Do quest for Legs

>By the end of the quest you get the codec of him being repo'd

<Eudico never butts in because everyone listening to everyone's phone conversations is kinda annoying imo. Furthermore if Eudico could hear the conversation then she should have butted in much earlier.

>Eudico chews you the fuck out and says you're now in debt to Solaris.

<This fixes her bipolar attitude towards your involvement from here forward and draws you into the theme of this expansion.

<It also makes the quest feel meaningful and can potentially make some players feel something about their actions, as scripted as they are.

>First work as a debtor to debtors is Biz's quest which proceeds as normal except you are introduced to the poop tracking game at its conclusion. Probably K-Drive at some point as well or in another quest.

<This relieves a bit of tension, establishes a core gameplay additions, and gives people time to infodump when you aren't obligated to listen, but probably will anyways.

>Next job is to get the unobtainium cooling agent for the terraformer. This proceeds as normal except Nef cuts Eudico's time short using Jewish loopholes. Al la "What? I sent you the schedule change. It's not my fault you didn't get it. :^)" just to be a dick.

<My impression of him during the quest was that he was acting like an impatient child, which makes him much less interesting imo

>Eudico initially blames you for not getting there in time, but apologizes and admits that it's all Nef and realizes that he truly won't be satisfied unless everyone is miserable.

>At this point she gives you one last request and that's to stem the enemy forces marching on the city. No K-bomb bs. Nef vows to repo everyone in Fortuna one by one, starting with Eudico, until the identity of Vox Solaris is known. Quest plays out like normal otherwise.

>When you return she releases you from your debt, thanks you for everything, and says you may leave.

>Obviously we don't, she's quite pleased by this and sends us on our mission to sabotage the terraformer.

>Quest plays out like normal except Nef goes from very confident to shitting himself over the course of the mission.

>It's said that his investors are very displeased so he won't be able to make any drastic moves, like marching on Fortuna, that could threaten his position, but now is the time to put the pressure on him while his investors are wary.

It's not perfect, but it's pretty straightforward. It's six fucking AM, why did I write this?

>>15769507

Pretty good ideas there.

Being indebted to debters is a nice touch.

>It's six fucking AM, why did I write this?

Because you like the game a lot. Despite all the stupid shit and fucked up decisions, it's still a very fun game you like.

Buy more plat. :^)

>>15769504

I think those are meant to represent the Corpus installations you triple jump through regular missions, off in the distance. Up in the sky are the mirrors that give you five minutes of sunlight every 25 minutes of cold, and the bright green lights are Corpus shuttles moving to and from the starport.

I wanna see what the hell is up with The Pearl, the craters, and the orokin excavation since it shows the tower is still alive. And more important, whatever update brings those things up to heel will also remove the limiters on the giant spiders.

>>15769533

>the Corpus installations you triple jump through

Really? I thought those lights were much closer, havent really given them a good look though.

>warm cycle is 6m40s

>cold cycle is 26m40s

>total cycle is 33m20s

Why the fuck did they pick numbers that no one will ever get right, remember, or be able to reason about without checking a third party website to tell them when the next cycle is?

>>15769530

Thank you.

Nice try Steve, the only time I've ever spent money on your game was when Hydroid prime access got mismarked. I hope you're still not too sore about that $130 :^)

>>15771192

I don't know how much it matters here, but it pissed me off more during POE since they went 50/100 rather than 60/120. With the latter you could know what time it is on Cetus without anything but knowhow. I've heard the argument that it cycles that way for players who may get shafted by that schedule, but I'd say that can still happen, just randomly and you can't plan around it. It's not a big thing, but it is more elegant.

Of course I do agree that it should have just been 5/ 25 or 6/ 24 or even 7/ 23. Since this sample of time is much smaller it shouldn't affect anyone.

>>15766175

>atomos

hell yea nigga

Orokin reactor alert fifty minutes.

>>15773434

8chan has two big clans which are nearly impossible to contact and some anons have solo clans. As a person with a solo clan I would strongly recommend that you do not make a solo clan. The grind sucks massive cock.

>>15776387

There are some tables with annoying chances, but they seem to have decent drop rates from bounties.

I assume you're talking about Axi S4 Relic

Check the drops for yourself

https://n8k6e2y6.ssl.hwcdn.net/repos/hnfvc0o3jnfvc873njb03enrf56.html

>>15776435

>12% from mot

>2.8 and 5.5 from the other locations

Could be worse I guess, the fortuna bounties do look worth doing. Fortuna reminds me of skyrim, barren and devoid of meaningful content

>>15776848

Watch the warframe market prices and move around the ranges there. Ayatan statues have been plummetting the last few months (so you can vary those prices more to your own convenience) and the stuff from the last unvaulting still has some draw. If you are sufficiently high on a syndicate you could sell the augs for some weapons or warframes since not everyone has access to those, but some are more rare or useful than others, you'll want to figure that out.

>>15776848

The tradechat at times becomes an incoherent cacophony of merchant dumps, moving so fast as to be unreadable. Rivens for shotguns are pricy, and for weapons that have prime variants overall.

>>15776848

Right now about the only thing selling is the "new" stuff like mag and nova prime along with the weapons, other stuff that constantly sells is the anasa statue, the relics themselves and if you get lucky a riven(trash or not) for the catchmoon/other high demand weapons. With all the other stuff you would be better off making an account on the market website and listing everything. Like I said earlier I am sitting on pretty much everything and thats not because im not willing to sell them, waiting for someone that actually wants to buy the regular rift stuff is going to take forever. Another fast way are the corrupted mods from the orokin derilict, I believe the recent patch has made you able to equip all keys on you at once so just slap them on and run with rhino if you have him.

Also if you havent done so already, use a filter on the trade chat so you can only see the WTB messages

>>15776387

Rares from relics are easy. You do a radshare and have a 34.3% chance to get the rare item. Put any faggot on ignore that tell you to 'stagger' as they failed math and have bad opinions. Get two or three, wait for a fast fissure like a capture, and it takes 5 minutes. It's especially easy right now as with relics in bounty rotations you can quickly focus the relic you need while also getting the rep and mods you also need.

>>15777233

Yea I did two fortuna bounties and got two axi S4 relics, first bounty didnt give any but the second time made up for it. Not a lot of people doing them for some reason though, is it because the rep is easily maxed? In the plains I always instantly got a full group

>>15776640

It is for Harrow and Nidus, as there's no reason to run any of those missions otherwise. Khora is better to farm since there's other shit you need there, but if you have everything but khora, buy her.

>>15777245

They got rid of "the grind" which happens to be the only thing that holds a lot of this game together, so they killed the desire to run bounties. Many people got all the relics and mods on the first day and are now farming rep in the most efficient way: floofs. It's how I do it. I farm kubrodon floofs and do my daily 27000 rep in 10-13 minutes depending on luck.

>>15777275

I got to maximum fortuna rep just by running index and buying people from Ticket, then trading off the coupons for rep. Or giving minerals to the guy downstairs. Donating minerals give you stupid high reputation in fortuna.

>>15777784

check https://semlar.com/rivenprices/supra

that -CD will be a yikes for most people still an easy 500-1000 depending on how long and hard you jew

>>15777847

I looked up the supra, it has a pretty low base crit chance and crit multiplier. Wouldn't +status be a better build on it?

>>15777857

hybrid builds are always best, even when one stat isn't that great.

>>15777847

Where do you go to jew it?

Warframe Market only lets you list veiled mods.

>>15777879

http://riven.market/

>>15777898

Nice, the website is pretty easy to use too. Wish you could search rivens though.

>>15772530

>that video just netted that tranny a few hundred bucks from retards like you

Good.

>>15777441

>Donating minerals give you stupid high reputation in fortuna.

I've yet to see anyone show it beating floofs for rep. In attempts myself with double boosters, I only get about 70% of the rep even if I donate everything I mined.

>>15778042

What in the shit? Why in the fuck did they ruin their website's layout if they don't even have the features available first? Fucking idiots.

You can sort by weapon by clicking on Riven List and filtering for a specific weapon. Used to you could just type it in in a search bar at the top of the page like a normal human, but I guess that's too fucking easy.

>>15778158

You can type in the combobox.

>>15779128

Check the base stats of the weapon in question. Do the stats buff what it's already good at? Do they mitigate a natural downside of the weapon? Does it enable a pellet-based shotgun to reach 100% status? That's how you find out if the riven is good for the weapon. Keep in mind that the end goal is to have 3 positive stats that suit the weapon, and one negative stat that doesn't really matter like -zoom or +recoil. Rivens have stronger positives if they also have a negative.

Lenz has high base crit chance, and reaches over 100% critical chance with just Point Strike installed. A riven with high Critical Chance seems great for it, but at that point it's overkill on one stat where other stats could do it more justice. I'd aim for damage, critical damage, multishot, and MAYBE firing speed. Elements would be okay but can't replace those other things.

All that said, someone ignorant would blow their load over adding more crit chance to a Lenz, so you could sell it quickly as-is. You could get about 300 for it now, or roll it until it's much better until it's worth about 1000 or more. Keep in mind that if you DO decide to start rolling it, the price immediately drops until you get a great roll. It costs more kuva every time to re-roll the stats until it reaches 3500 kuva per try, so no one who's buying it with the intent to roll it themselves would want to have a harder time doing that.

>>15779243

Another thing to keep in mind is if the riven does so much that it lets you build things differently. Lenz is a good example. It's a rocket launcher that functions like a bow, and always crits. There's a mod called Hunter Munitions that will cause a slash proc based on the weapon's total damage, but only by a 30% chance per critical hit. One explosion, one crit, only a 30% chance per shot. Add multishot mods, you get two or 3 crit explosions per shot, so a significant chance you're gonna cause a huge slash proc per shot. Add a riven with big multishot on top and you'll almost always cause one or more huge slash procs per shot. Because of the riven, now it's much more worth using a mod slot for Hunter Munitions, whereas before you might've just used it for another elemental damage mod.

>>15779128

Probably 200p. Crit chance on a lenz riven used to be easy money, but interest in the lenz is almost dead. Don't waste kuva rolling a lenz as even amazing rolls are only going for 1k.

>>15779243

>>15779273

fair enough, at least it's good enough to get me a few weapon and/or warframe slots

>>15769083

>leader of a group of workers similar to a mining town is a female

It just drops the ball at the very start.

>>15779379

>community organizer of a group of retards, mutts, and trannies who commit terrorist acts against the society they sponge off of is a woman

It's too realistic.

>>15780119

>auto rifle, 16.25 fire rate

>puncture radiation cold

>100% status

What were you even hoping to accomplish with this mess.

>>15782731

Puncture good vs armor, bad vs shield. Cold good vs shield & alloy armor. Radiation proc nullifies ancient & eximus buffs by making them hostile towards those they'd be buffing, and the damage is good vs both armor and robotics.

I'm not the one who posted it but that build has its bases covered for general use.

>>15783176

>>15780119

This shit won't work past level 30 I think.

>>15783292

>>15783269

It just works, anons.

All of this just works.

Polite sage.

>>15763551

Isn't that ash?

Didn't a shitload of those get handed out at no cost to everyone streaming the twitch?

>>15783480

The armor is edo prime. He paid at least $20 for a cosmetic item you didn't even notice.

>>15783269

You're probably just upset that it's not corrosive + blast. It works fine.

So are moa pets not hacking just a thing in regard to DE fucking up or what?

Also, what slots do moa pets use?

>>15783687

By "works fine" I assume you mean "I get carried" since you've cut the supra vandal's damage down to literally 10% of a proper build by having not even the slightest clue what you're doing. You've fucked it up so bad that it's actually weaker than a miter. How do you even breathe?

>>15783692

I've not seen mine hack anything since DE "fixed" the conflict with vacuum. You could try taking all mods out except the security override in the first precept slot and see if it does something. The MOAs are all just mastery, though.

>>15783737

If you think that's true then you just don't know what you're talking about. Calm down.

>>15783692

They're hacking, they're just kind of subtle about it. Sometimes I've turned around and my moa or someone else's has hacked a ton of corpus cabinets and we have seven friendly moas following us. I've seen mine hack the first level of alert, jamming their nose into a terminal.

>>15783904

Where do you get a MOA? Is it better than Helios Prime?

>>15783945

Wouldn't say it's better, just different. Fortuna on Venus has a merchant that sells moa parts after you do the first part of the arrival quest. It takes standing (like with syndicates & Cetus) with the town's faction to buy the parts and construct a whole moa, so you probably can't make one for yourself right away.

The head you pick determines which special abilities your completed moa comes with, but once you have all the mod precepts for those abilities you can put them on any moa. The Oloro head comes with the hacking precept and a precept for longer, floatier aim glides.

>>15783945

They're trash. They're basically still placeholders.

They were supposed to come with a selection of brackets but DE didn't get around to adding them so anything you build now expect to scrap in the future. Their stats make no sense as they have no mods to scale off base stats, you instead use additive link mods to keep them alive so the choices you're asked to make are meaningless. Their skills are largely bugged and wouldn't be very useful even if they worked, the premiere skill being equivalent to a cipher discount. And the weapons that were supposed to save them like the vulcax turned out to be dogshit.

Extract the mastery from them using the cheapest parts and ignore them.

>>15785289

Towers are replaced with Fissure missions. No more tower keys, Relics instead. Relics are rusty dirty time capsules with prime parts in them. They're labeled with an era, letter, and number, like Axi A5, and each one has a drop list with common and rare parts. Go to a fissure mission (wispy tab in navigation) and corrupted enemies will burst in, kill them for void energy pickups until you get 10 at which point youll "crack open" the relic. That means you just finish the mission objective and youll get your item. Once everyone's at evac, you can pick your prize from every squad member's relic. If you got something shit you can pick something they got.

When you do fissure missions, youll get Void Traces. You get more if people picked your relic's prize. Go to the relic terminal next to your arsenal to pump void traces into a relic so you can change the drop rates of the items inside. You can farm relics in endless missions, the new Onslaught mode, open world bounties, or by fissures themselves.

>>15765610

>it has microtransactions and you can unlock better weapons and frames with real money

so it's not even a game? it's a real life success dick measurement tool? i "win" the "game" by just earning more money than some faggots in real life?

if this is what nufaggots think gayman is then just kill me. please.

>>15785338

Also, stick with the group and just rush the objective like you normally would. Dont be one of those faggots who stays in the start of the mission trying to get reactant, not only are you fucking over spawns that way it is overall just slower for everyone.

>>15785440

Hey, that other guy wanted a status build, so he got a status build. At least now the weapon is emphasizing its strength, which is to say it's focused on piercing damage. If you don't like the status mods, well you didn't forma for that, so you can feel free to replace them with whatever you want. You can even rearrange them so that you get different status effects, or build for a specific status effect, although your status chance will suffer.

Fuck you, it's an improvement over the previously posted build. If you're so smart, then you build it and explain why you're not absolutely homofaggot gay.

>>15785338

>>15785358

Thanks lads, I see it's more or less the same as the old towers.

>>15785457

He's stupid for wanting status in the first place. You always build hybrid if the weapon can remotely handle it. put crit on that shit, the augment, and then corrosive and either cold or fire. That way you do more damage, strip armor, get energy, and can CC enemies.

>>15779344

Wow, never noticed that before.

>>15785457

>At least now the weapon is emphasizing its strength, which is to say it's focused on piercing damage

Which is to say you have no idea what the fuck the strength of the supra vandal is. I bet your opticor has piercing caliber on it.

>>15785544

>play bad game meant to suck money from you

>complain about it

>????

>Debt!

>>15785761

Did you reply to the wrong post?

>>15786060

Hey, an actual useful post! See, you can do something besides froth at the mouth if you think it through.

>>15787208

It's a supra vandal, it's trying hard. Catchmoon obsoletes pyrana prime, by the way.

>>15787347

I'm not sure how since it really didn't suffer all that bad from the riven disposition changes, I lost like, maybe 40-50k burst DPS; but that hardly quells the murder

Just played the intro and it was pretty fun. Anything I need to know before I play with you guys?

>>15787700

Don't spend your beginner platinum on horseshit, spend it on warframe inventory slots and weapon inventory slots. Those are the only (non-cosmetic) things that require platinum.

Level everything you get to maximum at least once. Frames, weapons, pets, robots, hoverboards, etc. This is how you "master" weapons and contributes to your Mastery Rank. Ranking up gives you bonuses and unlocks content.

Travel through the planets like they're worlds in Mario Bros 3. Reach junctions to link the map to a new planet. Junctions have a checklist of things to do on your current planet before you can go inside, kill the boss, and link the map. Expanding your planetary map like this is high priority and will lead you to most quests and content. Junctions themselves have a nice prize package each.

Cetus on Earth and Fortuna on Venus are the open-world area towns and have a lot to do and unlock.

Damage types matter, and so do status procs. For example, radiation damage is good against armored enemies and robotics, and the radiation status effect will make enemies hostile to everyone and cancel any buffs they might be receiving from their allies because of it. Apply modifications to your weapons according to what combines well with their base stats & keep in mind what type of enemy you'll be using them against.

Slide, bullet jump, midair roll, repeat with a sliding landing. That's how to go fast. Careful you don't get caught on doorframes and such. You'll get used to it. If you get actually stuck, like phased through a wall or falling through blue hell, type /unstuck in chat.

>>15787700

Oh, and go to the warframe website, login, and on the promo code page type FREESWORD for a free sword.

>>15787700

Hoard mods like your life depends on it until you have enough to fill all your weapons and get a good chunk of Endo.

Don't ever buy platinum from the website unless you have a 75% coupon.

Don't buy anything from the Market that is not a cosmetic, a slot, or something you are really really sure you want, which you won't be until you are familiar enough with the game to give advise instead of ask for it.

You can slide and jump, then jump again, then roll in midair, and then glide forward, all of this at high speed and firing your weapons

Mag sucks.

You can buy weapon blueprints to get them for free, it costs platinum to speed up construction but you can grind materials and unlock the game further while that happens so it's not necessary.

Level up everything you get, even if you hate it.

>>15787828

>>15787833

>>15787847

saved, thank you

>>15787847

Old news, Mag is great now. Strips both armor and shields, crowd control, weapon jamming, all that good shit.

>>15787908

Mag is still garbage. A full armor strip takes an increasing number of casts as armor scales up so she's worthless in the missions one would actually want to bother with stripping armor, shields don't matter as people who aren't retarded and can build a weapon properly just bypass them, and cc/jamming hasn't been relevant for years and other frames do it better regardless. On top of all that failure, she shields the enemy like a nekros on steroids. Having an afker in the group is better than having a mag in the group. The only person who doesn't realize mag is fucking everything up is mag.

>>15787833

You can also enter promo codes at your Market console.

>>15787847

To clarify, you buy the blueprints for credits from the Market. Anon specifically means not spending Platinum at the Market.

To also elaborate further, you level up your Mastery Rank by leveling up weapons, frames, anything that you can level up. So, as he says, level everything up to max even if you hate it.

>>15787978

C'mon, not everything is an exercise in spitting bile at nazis or your dick shrinks off. Mag is fine. Long duration bullet attractors get annoying if not used on something that actually needs it, same as dumb Frosts and Limbos need to decide when to use their bubbles. Don't go down the path of "shitty if not Saryn nukes."

God help me, I actually bought plat

>>15788147

Seriously, consider the facts

>game's free

>all and any updates are free

>anything gameplay-related that can be bought with plat can be gotten without plat

>you can grind shit and sell it for plat anyway

>co you can buy plat-only cosmetics without paying

<meanwhile in Destiny

>game is $60

>DLC is $20

>Microtransactions

>you CAN NOT grind shit to get microtransactions without paying

>same for Division

>most likely same for Anthem

WF is just the most based online grindan out there, nothing wrong with supporting it with money. Especially since it gives you 75% discount regularly.

>>15788187

Touche, I rationalized it by wanting to support the developers, as I got over the initial starter hump and poured more time into it then planned, but in reality, I just wanted to make my tenno pretty

So yeah, that's fair, I actually don't feel too dirty about giving DE some shekels.

Can beginners do some trading or do you have to do somethinf first?

>>15788187

Stop it Steve. We are the happy merchants here, not the goyim.

>>15788195

>I actually don't feel too dirty about giving DE some shekels.

Give it time.

>>15788204

You need to be at least MR 2. From there you can make 2 trades per day until MR 3 when you can do 3 trades and so on.

>>15788204

Also, your first 50 plat has cancer and can't be used for trading. If you want to trade plat to other players you'll need to get plat first, either from other players or by shaming yourself.

>>15788425

>Ember

Limbo with vazarin or frost (medium+ range) are better choices for that one.

>How much

100-150p.

Whats a decent secondary to cata?

>>15788577

Took me a minute to realize what you were asking. The common slang for catalysts and reactors is potatoes. Blue potatoes and gold/ yellow potatoes respectively.

There are many, but the Atomos is a safe bet.

>>15788591

Potato sounds too reddit and randumb, cata rolls off the tongue easier.

I've got an Ignis wraith so I don't want 2 flame weapons, the short range can be a bitch sometimes.

>>15788577

I've put this list in ascending order of difficulty to acquire.

Atomos

Twin Grakatas.

Zakti - clan research

Pyrana prime

Mara detron - Baro

Vaykor marelok - Syndicate

Akvasto prime

Sicarus prime

Aklex prime

>>15788617

Forgot the pandero

>>15788577

catchmoon (kitgun)

staticor

sancti castanas

>>15788626

>"with the objective taking no damage"

>takes rhino

Have fun spamming energy pads to fuel your mistake.

>>15788609

In that case I've always had a soft spot for Lex Prime. It's been my ideal sidearm for picking off high profile targets that my room-clearer would not. I haven't used Aklex Prime much, but anons have been singing its praises. Lately I've been using the Mara Detron more often though.

>>15788626

Not only did you fundamentally misunderstand that anon's riven challenge you've also proven yourself to be quite the cuckold. If you really love Steve's cock so much then you should probably stick to the official forums

>>15788617

How is the Aklex the hardest one of those to get? It's just lith relics. I got a Lex Prime in the time between our posts.

Thanks for the list tho.

>>15788645

Is the base Detron any good?

>>15788634

>>15788645

Ha ha I thought no damage to warframe, my bad.

Steve is my waifu though, no bully.

>>15788663

Aklex prime is different. Baro Ki'teer occasionally sells the relics which give the link and blueprint for Aklex prime. I've only seen them for sale once.

I wouldn't recommend the standard detron. It's objectively inferior, and most people get the mara detron from Baro before the standard version because the parts for the standard detron have bad drop rates.

>>15788675

I don't usually bully, but Steve is a trash-tier waifu.

>>15788212

Mag has a bit of squad utility through shield regen and shield boosting, she has a wee bit of CC, and she puts out monstrous amounts of damage while providing a nearly impenetrable defense. A large and long lasting bubble with the right weapon will EASILY tear apart lvl100+ mobs in sorties and arbitrations. Nullifiers, Ancient Disruptors, Ancient Healers, and Arbitration Drones all mean next to nothing to her. Her bubbles let her reach a sort of event horizon where mobs just can't do anything due to the sheer amount of damage that the explosions do, even when Nullifiers and other jerks screw up her bubbles. Retards like you who think Mag is either bad or a poor team player have either never played with a good Mag or are just salty that they get fucking demolished on the mission reports in kills and damage done.

>>15788663

It's not significantly worse than Mara Detron, but Mara is far easier to get.

>>15788663

Only use detron for mastery

Bin it when you get the mara detron

>>15788684

You fucking half-wit, how can she be a good team-player when scaling her up means making her more of an obstruction? The strongest mag is one with max range and duration to run around spreading map herpes and that's completely incompatible with other players being anywhere within the same time zone. At her maximum power level she is a malignant limbo.

>hurr but shields

Fuck shields. They're useless except on mesa and gara where they're merely bad.

>>15788768

Replace all of those bosses with toxic ancients and it would be accurate.

>>15788968

>Shit that never happened for 100

>Shit that never happened for 500

>Shit that never happened for 1000

>Shit that never happened for 1500

<She's also pretty.

There you outed yourself you fucking shitter.

Mag is trash, was long ago established trash, but you brain damaged waifufag just can't think straight and try to tell lies on the internet.

>>15788212

Yeah, fully convinced you don't know what you're talking about now. A good Nekros always has shadows up because the only good build for him involves Shield of Shadows, otherwise you've usually got a dead Nekros. Limbo is a fucking catastrophe, but trying to say Mag is worse? Do all your opinions come from wiki comment chains or something? And you said she's hard to play, of all fucking things? 3 of her skills are single cast AoEs and the other is just a single target cast to initiate an interactable bomb, which she can end at will even if she's high duration.

>Except for all those reason I listed

Catch the hint that they weren't good reasons

>>15789020

Mag is situationally okay, compared to frames like Wukong or Ember who have either only one good ability or have been nerfed many times over.

A Magnetize Mag with a Lanka/Mara Detron/Tigris Prime is pretty good at shredding enemies while a Polarize Mag is very good at clearing out trash mobs from tight maps while stripping shields and armor from heavier units. Even so, she still needs work to be on par with many other frames.

Tater alert

>>15789020

Show me on the doll where the Mag player touched you.

friend of mine is shilling me on this game and willl buy me one frame. what should I go with that'll serve as a decent all-rounder

>>15789560

Rhino is the best all-rounder but it is also stupidly easy to get for free. You'll want something that is hard to get and far away from the game start. Atlas is a good alternative that meets that condition, and that frame in particular is locked behind of a stupidly tiring grind.

>All this arguing over Mag

Atlas is okay, though, right? I love my punchman.

>>15789713

Ah yes make your own fun of hopelessly grinding away for a frame you don't want so you can grind your mastery level, or grind the same area endlessly for a chance to get a mod is great fun!

Christ the game's grind is abysmal and kept that way so retards will keep buying plat, and you have retards like you thinking they're jewing anyone other than themselves by investing hundreds of hours into selling shit for fake currency

>>15789697

Yeah atlas is fantastic. Don't be a chump though, put some range on that boy. Landslide is an AoE and benefits a TON from high range, range makes rumblers sprint so they can actually do something and draw aggro, and when you cast petrify/rumblers you might as well stone everyone. All the Umbral mods are good for him, and on top of all his tankiness even a rank 0 Adaptation makes him unstoppable. Make sure you mod your melee for crit and radiation, since landslide is otherwise 100% impact, good base crit, and futile for causing status procs. Landslide's combo meter and regular melee combo meter work together, so preserve your melee combo. Landslide punches count as a hit.

For anyone having a shitty time killing Jordas for Atlas parts, its because your archgun doesnt do radiation damage, and the electric archgun mod is hard to get. If you can mod it for radiation then he's piss easy.

>>15789783

If youre not having fun just uninstall it and dont join threads about it, you nerd.

>>15789804

>good base crit

>5%

>good

>>15789815

>haha I'm totally having fun

>now watch me get this mod in only 900 rotations so that I can do my next 400 rotations slightly faster until DE nerfs it to fuck and back and I go back to square 1

>>15789827

>you're only allowed to play the game the most efficient and sterile way possible u guize

>OMG WHY ARENT I HAVING FUN?

>>15789832

Ah yes, the best way to play the game is the one that takes massively longer in a completely sterile grind filled environment. What do you mean it takes me 9 times longer than the other setups, little do they know I'm enjoying the content more by making it even grindier!

>>15789827

>thinks people have fun begging for rng

>not the basic gameplay you do to reach the goal

If anyone's just forcing themselves to grind, go do something you actually like and sell the prizes for plat so you can just trade for that thing instead of grind for it. If you're not having fun with any of it, go take a break.

And if you join threads about things you dont like just to complain, keep being a winner. We're all proud of you.

>>15789824

Actual gameplay fooled me into thinking the crit chance is high because it crits really often without any buffs that would force a crit.

>>15789827

>>15789839

>you can't possibly be liking the gameplay or having fun if you're not being 100% efficient

Are you German by any chance?

>>15789839

>I don't like the base gameplay, I just want to grind for shit like a carrot on a stick

>OMG THIS ISNT FUN

Seriously fag, this is ridiculous. If you play the game to grind, and don't like grinding, you may be fucking retarded.

>>15789851

>implying the game has good gunplay when it's completely nonresponsive

>implying the game has good movement when it's just a blurry mess of dashing as fast as you can from point A to point B 90% of the time

>implying that the game has anything other than grinding the same 7 missions on slightly different maps ad nausium

So what exactly is this gameplay you keep mentioning, because all that seems to keep coming up is horrific grind or retards trying to """jew""" someone else by dumping more time than a small third world nation does into farming runescape gold

>>15789860

I like to shoot dudes. In this game I can do that. It's fun. Keep being a winner though.

>>15789860

>bitches about farming

>joins thread just to be contrary farm replies

typical sockfucker

>>15789867

So you have absolutely no reason to like the game other than you already dumped time into it. Because the actual shooting is some of the worst on the market, beaten out in awfulness maybe only by bethesda games, and even then you have to squint

>>15789839

I once spent an entire afternoon on one of those Infested bonus EXP levels because I thought it would be fun after modded my Excalibur's exalted blade with Molten Impact and Range.

Turns out carving through dozens of enemies while setting all of them on fire is, indeed, fun. I didn't even care about the drops I got (though those missions shit a lot of credits for reasons I've yet to understand), I was just happy to slice shit up. Sometimes I'll help newbies through early defense missions because it's really fun and easy to keep Exalted Blade going the whole time. Because I like to slice shit up. That's really all I'm playing for, that and punching the shit out of Corprus with Atlas. I don't do it for the grind, I don't do it for the ladyframes, I do it because it's honestly really fun to just destroy shit. I haven't unlocked the star chart past Ceres because I just like playing this way. Only recently did I even join a syndicate.

If you don't like the game, that's fine, but don't tell me I'm not actually enjoying myself.

>>15789871

The shooting is good. Using abilities is good. I've yet to see an argument save for "unresponsive". But please tell me more about all this fun I'm not having, and you clearly are. And tell me about these other better games you're playing. you won't, fag

>>15789871

I recently leveled the penta grenade launcher and I can safely say this is patently false. The shooting is very satisfying.

>>15789845

It's possible that the wiki is wrong. I don't really use Atlas so I can't speak from experience.

>>15788968

>she's a team player

>watch as I describe how to disable my entire team while I use my nuke that doesn't scale

>but it's worth it as surely no other frame can do this or do it better

>she's also pretty

Yeah there we go, the real reason you defend this shit frame.

>>15789880

Yeah I recall not too long ago there was no listed crit chance for landslide on the wiki.

>>15789884

Just take the L already, nobody agrees with you.

>disable entire team

Do you get pouty over anything that kills enemies you were aiming at before you could kill them, or just this? Even if its a poorly chosen cast it can be collapsed immediately.

>surely no other frame can do this better

still wanking over Saryn I see

>she's also pretty

she's a cheap B movie spacesuit and the prime is even worse, and even if that other anon has poor taste its irrelevant

>>15789877

>>15789879

>enemies respond to damage as if you were playing laser tag, unless it's one of the handful of status effects that immobilize them or freeze them.

>responsive

>abilities all a varying degrees of variation of "immobilize or deal damage" maybe some useless shit like frosts "put a bubble up"

Also I was going to just go down the steam FPS releases but then I realized it mixed VNs in so I'm gonna have to actually go through them. Any iteration of Doom, any of them even the shitty new ones have better gunplay. And the original two dooms also constantly get mods that change and add things. Any of the halo games are easily pirate-able, STALKER, fuck even destiny the trash that it is at least has some guns that have weight to them.There's plenty of PvP ones with better gunplay but I'm gonna gloss over those because shooting with tacked on RPG mechanics seems to be the topic. Literally anything other than AAA trash and even some AAA trash has better gunplay, because the guns have at least some weight to them other than laser tag.

>>15789896

But anon, Mag has the biggest titties. And a textured cameltoe that's very hard to see

>>15789910

Trinity Prime's got a tramp stamp & Wukong has a glowing asshole and pussy.

>>15789908

>frost

>useless

Lol fag. And if you aren't blowing enemies away with an arca plasmor then thats your fault buddy. Tons of weapons give you a juice bang, and will proc blast or impact to stagger enemies.

>falling back on "/v/core" shit like stalker and doom

Like fucking clockwork.

>>15789908

I like how you can time manual detonations with the grenade launcher to score a headshot, blow the enemy in half and then fly them through the skybox.

For some reason the Penta is MR6 and you start the game with a bow, wtf DE.

>>15789938

>falling back on well known games is bad

>haha I will only accept true indie shooters like tencent's warframe!

>>15789939

You can pick from a variety of starter weapons. They're all intentionally plain and an inferior version of the regular kinds though. Plain weapons to start with = easy to pick up and get going, mk1 weapons = you don't have to feel obligated to keep them and waste an inventory slot and can get the other versions with regular credits to see what type of weapon you prefer.

>>15789957

>oh no, he's asking me for games I like

>I know! Doom and stalker! The hive mind would never let him criticize those!

It's every thread some nigger pulls this. And I don't mean warframe. It's always "why aren't you playing this /v/ approved shit from twenty years ago that you've already played for a thousand hours?". God forbid someone wants to play something else.

>>15789968

>Destiny is /v/ approved now

>literally any AAA shooter is /v/ approved now

Man keep fighting the power by standing up for a game you've dumped thousands of hours into playing the same 7 maps

>>15789961

I see your reasoning but my point is that it's a really bad first impression. There's loads of really fun weapons that you're not allowed to use for some reason. And lets be real the inventory slot BS is anemic and antithetical to the rest of the game and is the most jewish aspect of it. It shud be billed as a collectathon because it is.

>>15789970

Wheres my reply?

>>15789970

And destiny is fucking shit, so hang yourself. I didn't even notice you'd said it, cause I saw doom and stalker and just fucking skimmed.

>>15789984

I said it to make a point that literally fucking any shooter with small exceptions is better than warfram'es shooting

>>15789157

>fully convinced you don't know what you're talking about

I know everything. The faster you learn that the better.

>a good Nekros always has shadows up

A good nekros never uses shadows in a group as it cuts the group's damage in half and a good nekros knows this. If you can't survive with health conversion, despoil, and guardian then you are absolute shit at the game as that's an ehp around 5800 even without adaptation. There are sadly a lot of people who are absolute shit (like you!), which is why nekros is one of the four horsemen.

Luckily, many nekros players are aware of this and avoid being a shitter in a group. It's very different than limbo and mag where they're completely oblivious to having crippled their group.

>Limbo is a fucking catastrophe, but trying to say Mag is worse?

She can have multiple 'cataclysms' out at a time, and unlike old stasis they cannot be broken by players. Try to run that through your head until you understand how she's worse. I know it's hard, but I believe in you.

>you said she's hard to play

She's relatively (for warframe) hard to play well, yes. I know you won't understand this as you don't play anything well and just press button for awesome. You can see in this thread how the mag proponents don't even understand how her armor strip works as an example of things being more difficult than thoughtlessly pressing one button.

>>15789994

You'd be wrong, cause destiny is garbage.

>>15790023

Says a man defending the exact same garbage except with space ninjas as opposed to space retards. And the best part is, I was gonna say "the division" but I didn't because I wanted something even closer to the absolute trash tier of gunplay warframe has, and you know what's even better? Destiny and Warframe have the exact same gunplay, and both are absolute trash. They're both completely weightless garbage that is better suited to laser tag than actual firearms, they both have garbage abilities that add basically nothing to the game, and they both are just grinding with a cash shop. Warframe and Destiny are incredibly similar, only difference is you've dumped more hours into one. Both are trash and you should feel bad for playing either

>>15790023

While Destiny is shit it at least has some challenge to it that doesn't exist by mistake. Warfarm will never have challenge as it's aimed at turd worlders and redditors with poor impulse control who scream and cry and shit their diapers when something like eidolons show up and they find themselves not invited to carry groups.

While I like attempting 6x3s which I've still not managed as every good group I get ends up quitting the game, but I've reached the 6th gantulyst, I'm fully aware that this whole challenge is player-created in a game where "we don't want our eidolons to be one-shot" was the design intent. And that if they design raknoids "correctly", there will be no challenge to them.

If you haven't noticed, DE produces a game of chance cleverly disguised as a game of skill. It's really their missteps that accidentally make it a fun game.

>>15790045

>the division

>having better gunplay than anything

wew lad

I guess you enjoy dumping 60+ rounds of 5.56 into the head of a nigger in a cotton hoodie only to see his healthbar barely decrease.

TBH I get why someone would want to convince others to not play this game. Between the shallow gameplay loops set up like any mobile game, even basic essentials like catalysts and reactors locked behind a need for premium currency, and even a lack of a compelling story to keep players interested it can lead to people just going through the motions. There's no endgame to work towards except "How long can this setup let me grind for?". That would be valuable if Keys were a thing since being able to grind longer would mean making the most out of each key. But they've realized that and replaced that with relics, which require grinding to not be a waste of time. It's grinding to grind more efficiently. Unless you let them win and just buy plat to skip out on most of the grinding by just buying what you want off of other players.

Not to mention that the majority of content, save for the occasional "big update" is just Tennogen, which is DE's version of paid mods, or skins designed by fans instead of people who are (or ate least should be) paid for doing so. With so much of their "content" being outsourced I'm amazed fortuna took so long to come out.

Look go ahead and play it but don't try to act like there aren't valid points when people criticize it. If it were really as untrue as people would say, you wouldn't rush to try and dispute them.

>>15789579

>>15789910

>>15789896

Graxx skin is the best for Mag, but I agree – she is actually one of the more boring/cheesy looking frames in the game… everyone else is some sick Guyver unit space alien.

>>15790101

>everyone else is some sick Guyver unit space alien.

If you ignore, wukong, nezha, limbo, mesa, khora, frost, atlas, and ivara (i've likely missed one or two with clear inspirations). The guyver comparison, along with similar ones like NGE and tokusatsu stopped being relevant ages ago.

>>15790117

nah man, they all have levels of visual detail far beyond the Mag frame. She does not look a canon as the rest of the cast, guyver or not.

>>15789783

What a fag retard or bait master. I'm having plenty of fun treating warframe a racing game, don't give a shit about MR, relics etc, if it drops it's great if not who cares. Apparently only you.

>>15789995

>I told myself everyone's wrong and I'm right, and I believe my own lie so hard that I'm baffled other people don't see it

Yeah we've got a lot to learn from you. You can't even pretend you were just joking at this point. You're in (up) too deep.

>good nekros never uses shadows

There's no reason to be upset unless you're Oberon. If you can't stop confusing normal enemies with tar ghosts who have a visual line connected to Nekros, that's on you. Enjoy the eximus shadows buffing the squad and debuffing enemies.

>understand how she's worse

You can either shoot the spot on her bubble that will travel through your target to the center, or fuck off and shoot something that actually needs to be shot, because you haven't realized that just about anything in the bubble is going to be dead in a second and doesn't need your input. Do you get mad when you don't get to shoot enemies in Nidus's Larva because he kicks them all? Are you upset when you dont get credit for shooting something Ash has already cast his 4 on? Point yourself elsewhere and be useful, recognize these situations.

>she's relatively hard to play well

Three radial casts that debuff and do no-to-okay damage, and bubble the big guys & chokepoints. Wow.

>>15789713

Holy fuck how do you make volt do that?

I realize that video is a few years old though, has that been nerfed?

>>15790307

Congrats, you ignored exactly enough details to not have to think about anything.

>>15790203

Nekros is a fine frame but his 4 is by far his weakest aspect, all its good for is for stealing enemy buffs and tanking, which there are plenty of other frames that do better jobs at both.

His real utility comes from Desecrate, which makes everything drop items like pinatas and has (almost) zero cost, Terrify, which can make a whole group of enemies fuck off, debatably augmented Shadow Punch if you're a lazy faggot who wants to revive someone from a quarter mile away.

All three of those abilities really don't need duration, and to make your 4 the least bit viable to do the job of tanking, you're going to need fat duration, which usually means sacrificing efficiency, which desecrate desperately needs. It also gains no bonuses from range, which all three abilities benefit significantly from.

If you want to be a tank and buff everyone, just play Chroma and min-max power str and range, you'll give your team an 600% base damage multiplier with 800% bonus armor and a flat bonus to their maximum HP.

Consistently too mind you, to do any amount of buffing with your build, you also need to pray that the enemy you want is in the queue of recent enemies killed.

>>15791205

I don't know what you mean, I run my Nekros with negative efficiency & default energy and prefer it that way. I don't use the shadows because stealing eximus buffs are just that good, I use them because that's an easy way to not die as Nekros and draw some aggro for the squad to survive a little easier. I run with over 100 duration just so shadow health doesn't drain so quickly.

Eximus units & summoners like Hyekka Master will usually float at the top of the queue for summoning.

Anything I do as Nekros is ultimately to let me live longer and continue desecrating everything. Don't get me wrong, I'm not running Nekros in order to buff or draw aggro, those are just side benefits worth including in the build. I'm not missing any corpses unless people are engaging in hallway heroism far from the main killing floor, and even without those guys I'm multiplying drops well enough by severing corpses with slash kills before they're despoiled.

>>15791258

Yeah always expect stalker during solo rivens. He's actually most likely to show up when you're alone and have less weapons equipped.

I also fuck up and forget to equip key/riven. I've started piling up veiled rivens and doing them all at once so if I forget, it's only on the first one.

>>15791271

You're infinitely better off buffing the three other abilities that you have rather than buffing the one mediocre-ass ability and wasting a slot on the augment.

>>15791341

Range & despoil is all I need for desecrate, I dont use Soul Survivor, and I don't use Terrify unless the squad's in deep shit because no one wants enemies to run away even though it strips some armor. Might as well build for shadows at that point because they passively provide benefits and keep me alive. I could try building for Creeping Terrify though, I tend to just forget it exists.

>>15791445

Except you're wasting a whole slot on something that could be used for something infinitely more useful, like Health Conversion, which would net you a total of 82% damage reduction while under 3 stacks, which wouldn't be hard to obtain in the slightest with desecrate.

Sure you'd have to worry about Piercing or Corrosive fucking your shit up, but those enemies are dangerous to pretty much everyone in general, a flat DR wouldn't do you very good there in most cases.

>>15791506

I'm still using health conversion too.

I'm downloading Warframe on my Switch because I'm too broke to afford real games can I have any early tips for starting out, any dos/don't dos? As far as I know this game is entirely about grinding and being a cool space ninja and so long as the latter is fun I can endure the former. Beyond that I have little to no knowledge of anything.

>>15792280

This guy asked a similar question and got a lot of answers you might be looking for. >>15787700

The only thing I can add in retrospect is to make yourself very familiar with https://warframe.fandom.com as the game does a terrible job of explaining itself in part due to feature creep. I also recommend using your ad blocker to kill the cringey article links on the side bar and bottom of the page.

>>15792299

Got it.

>>15791271

>negative efficiency

>despoil

It must be fun watching you struggle to not kill yourself.

>>15792620

That's why he has rejuvenation I suppose Niggas dont know about how godly enemy radar is

>>15792826

I never have health issues running negative efficiency. Never. Nekros makes that many extra orbs and nothing is hitting my HP anyway. Rejuvenation helps take care of the difference and that's not even why I've got it on. Health Conversion maxes out immediately regardless, and it stays there as a safety net. Rapid resilience is convenient and lets me ignore gas clouds.

Don't complain about builds or wasted slots then post that slop. You chopped some mods to make room because you didnt have enough of an aura bonus since you didnt polarize it, but you still chose the highest capacity & most build-irrelevant aura just so you could fit enough in.

You have cunning drift taking up a main polarized slot, of all things. What are you spending all that energy on that you need maximum efficiency? No one wants you to make the mobs run away so you're definitely not spamming your weak Terrify, Despoil's health drain can be completely ignored (yes, even on negative efficiency), and you'll never have a useful shadow like this. The only thing I can commend is Arcane Grace, but you only need that because you're gimping yourself and your squad by never using shadows. You're one of very few people who go into an autism fit about shadows so I guess this is how you can cope best. Just go use Hydroid so you don't have to grind your teeth about it.

>>15793857

>I never have health issues running negative efficiency. Never.

Then you're blind as desecrate hitting just 24 things wipes you to 2hp. Record a run of ESO with some nuke frame present that kills out of your vacuum range and review your health lollercoaster. That's not enemy fire, that's you, Tenno!

>Rejuvenation helps take care of the difference

It takes over 7 seconds with your awful build to recover from descecrating a single kill. In an ESO wave with 1k kills, you're gaining 450 health from rejuvenate and nuking yourself for 22,000. In other words, rejuvenation isn't doing shit to anything but shadows (which are garbage with a despoil build) and is effectively an empty slot.

>Health Conversion maxes out immediately

No shit. With the amount of self-damage you're doing, you've certainly optimized its uptime.

>Rapid resilience is convenient and lets me ignore gas clouds

On nekros.. Who has constant health income to offset dots.. And instead of adaptation..

>you still chose the highest capacity & most build-irrelevant aura

You're too mechanically retarded to understand. There's no point to corrosive projection on him for matchmaking groups since his weapons will all be based on slash procs unless the player is a moron, the other auras are worthless for his role, and the extra capacity of steel charge lets me skip wasting forma on a lootbot.

>You have cunning drift taking up a main polarized slot, of all things

How shocking that range is important to nekros. That build has higher range than yours, by the way. With zero forma and no exilus adapter.

>What are you spending all that energy on that you need maximum efficiency?

Your lack of understanding of efficiency is why you're dealing 22 damage to yourself per kill while I deal only 5. That's why you think you need shadows to survive because you're creating huge burst damage spikes on yourself and getting killed during them.

>You're one of very few people who go into an autism fit about shadows

You have no idea how many people in your groups quietly hate you and how you're oblivious to how much team damage you're soaking with shadows you shouldn't even need. By "very few" I can tell that not all of them have been quiet about how badly you're playing.

>>15794564

>then youre blind

You can just say "nuh-uh" but it still doesn't mean I'm dying.

>takes over 7 seconds

Ignoring the fact that I said that's not the reason I have it on, and that desecrating itself covers the cost. You're still ignoring exactly enough to feel right, Cartman.

>optimized its uptime

It works regardless of the build as long as Despoil is on, so no reason for a freak-out.

>instead of adaptation

Adaptation isn't necessary because I actually use my shadows, and SoS covers the same purpose and more.

>too mechanically retarded to understand

I understand that I at least ought to put on a helpful mod for the squad, even better if it acts as extra duration for the power I built around.

>how shocking that range is important

Ignored exactly enough, again. The obvious point here is that it's exilus and can go in an exilus slot. Stretch or Augur Reach could've gone there.

>with zero forma and no exilus

That's not something to wank over, that's just proof you shouldn't be blowing your top about builds then post a purposefully gimped one.

>your lack of understanding of efficiency

Again, I'm not dying from this build. I'm not getting close to dying. You can keep saying on paper that this looks like suicide, but it's not.

>people in your groups quietly hate you

I was actually curious a day ago whether or not other people threw shitfits about Nekros shadows and just weren't saying anything, just because you've got such a complex about it. Asked around and nope. Nobody even brought up it screwing over Oberon, I had to bring that up myself. They agreed that yeah it hurts him but that's it.

>>15794564

>rejuvenation isn't doing shit to anything but shadows (which are garbage with a despoil build) and is effectively an empty slot.

Not even them; unless there's some other interaction I'm unaware of. I was writing out a response to his retardation earlier, but decided against it. By his build a level 50 Bombard will resurrect with 13k hp or so and will tick for 320 hp per second or 317 when Rejuvenation is taken into account. It's that worthless.

In the best case it could be used on your build to eat a Desecrate every second, but even then that's hardly worth it. I can only assume he doesn't know that it's just 3 hp per second to think that it's useful in any but the most niche capacities.

>There's no point to corrosive projection on him for matchmaking groups since his weapons will all be based on slash procs unless the player is a moron, the other auras are worthless for his role, and the extra capacity of steel charge lets me skip wasting forma on a lootbot.

I'd say that any of the amps would probably be fine on him depending on what weapon you want to be gibbing with. Though even CP would be better than that dumb nigger's Rejuvenation.

>you're dealing 22 damage to yourself per kill while I deal only 5

Ackshully it's 15.5 and 2.5 respectively. Your point still stands though.

>>15794634

>Ignored exactly enough, again. The obvious point here is that it's exilus and can go in an exilus slot. Stretch or Augur Reach could've gone there.

>These Naramon mods could have gone in a Madurai slot on your build with no capacity to spare

You are an immensely retarded nigger.

>Ignoring the fact that I said that's not the reason I have it on

>I have this mod that helps mitigate that, but that's not the reason I use it

Why even bother saying it then? You also have yet to say why you bother with a mod that does close to nothing like Rejuvenation, let alone forma'd for it.

>>15794669

> I forma'd the aura for D polarity when I found out Rejuvenation can potentially counteract shadows' health decay, and haven't felt a need to change it since. That decay counteract only really works for low level mobs or some corpus anyway. I've seen friendly eximus nullifiers stick around for a very long time.

Reading is fundamental

>immensely retarded

Did you seriously think I meant to mismatch polarity to something that couldn't fit? The mod SLOT could fit a typical range mod instead Cunning Drift.

>why even bother saying it then

Because he was also, again, ignoring exactly enough, and harping on it for the same reason you are.