/v/ - Video Games

>>15753758

> Lord of the Rings Online

Is there a /v/ group? I've been wanting to get in on the game after finishing the books.

The first one is on par

Higher unit count and better campaign even if the second one has more content.

Painting the map is fun as fuck on the second one with the Witch King expansion.

>>15754049

Units are a bit unbalanced however. If you use pikes against horses in 1 for instance, horses or pikes might get away but heavily damaged. In 2 however, if you're caught on the wrong end of the weapons triangle, you will lose the squad. Seige also overpowered.

In 1 I can get squads up in levels with careful management, in 2 only archers get up because melee die to other melee and archers.

The DS diablo clones

>>15754049

>better campaign

None of them are particularly good, but 2's campaign is definitely better. 1 is mostly generic skirmishes, in 2 every mission is unique.

defending dwarfland against mordor on hard was fun though

>>15754847

2 also has the Dark Crusade-style progression campaign

>>15754877

Narnia is for much younger children and is FAR less subtle. With Narnia the Lion is unambiguously supposed to represent Jesus, he even gets sacrificed and resurrected at the end.

In Lotr it's a lot more ambiguous what each element of the story means. Tolkien said it was "consciously a catholic story". It's pretty clear the One Ring was meant to draw a parallel to the allure of Sin in the Christian religion but even then a lot of people have different interpretations on what the ring is meant to be. For example when the book was first written it was interpreted as an analogy for nuclear weapons.

In terms of vidya I dunno there was some based on the Chronicles of Narnia movies but those were just movie tie-in stuff. The movies themselves attempted really hard to try and be "Narnia but Lotr".

Dwarf fortress

I liked the PS2 tie in games.

Are the games by Monolith any good or just generic AAA action adventure game starring one button parkour and towers you climb to reveal everything in an area but with LoTR skin?

The Twin Towers and RotK games on GBA were really good Diablo clones

>>15754967

>generic AAA action adventure game

ymmv on this due to the nemesis system. Basically every orc captain you fight is a different character with his own name and they fight among each other in this pseudo real time warfare system. If you die to one the game still continues and they get stronger. This system was really basic in SoM and wasn't fully realized til SoW where it let you do things like create an orc army and have orc lieutenants you use to assault fortresses and later defend them against assaults. You could also have them do missions for you like attempt to assassinate some orc you don't like.

>one button parkour

The parkour is basically "hold up". In SoW they let you make it even faster since the player has these magic jump abilities. Parkour is less focused on than Assassin's creed though since you usually only climb 1 story platforms

>towers you climb to reveal everything in an area

In SoM and SoW there are towers but they mostly function as a respawn point/fast travel point

The Third Age was a shameless FFX ripoff but I still really liked it.

>>15754886

Is it still worth a read though? I keep hearing about how good C.S. Lewis’ writing is.

>>15755014

>Is it still worth a read though?

I mean these are childrens books intended for 6-7 year olds so go nuts if you really want to. CS Lewis I've honestly seen as an overrated author.

>I keep hearing about how good C.S. Lewis’ writing is.

People tend to talk about his Christian theology books not Narnia.

Best LOTR game is MTW2: Third Age, Divide and Conquer.

That mod can be sold as a game on itself and it would out-content most modern games.

The RTS games followed by the ARPGs

War of the Ring was one of the better games, EA ripped it off when they made Battle for Middle-Earth.

>>15755073

The ARPGs that weren't Shadow of Mordor or beyond*

>>15753758

I remember playing that many years ago and feeling like it was just another WoW clone

>>15755067

Preach it brother, it also excavates into the depths of the lore to bring fun shit such as.

Dorwinion taking a stand in the third age and having to choose between elves or men as they progress.

Khand developing in the far East and given the choice to either stay loyal to Sauron or join the blue wizards and orocarni dwarves and go rouger than Sara pallin and fight harassing, rhun and Mordor from behind.

The ar ardunaim, or ar pharazon's fanclub to make numenor great again which can be played as neutral, evil aligned, Gondor usurpers or full fledged good.

The enedwaith clans who are the wild card of the west.

And much more!

Bless Arachir and his modding team, the rise of Gundabad patch is coming soon and it will see said faction join the war in the north

>>15755074

War of the Ring was shit, BfME mostly comes from C&C Generals 3 and Total War.

>>15755124

Truth, truth.

>>15755080

You were probably a retard at the time.

>>15755141

Explain to me how its worth my time. I saw no real value in it as an MMO after playing for about a dozen levels. Nothing to hook me. At least WoW did that quite well many years ago, though I didn't bother playing that past the demo either because fuck cancerous and expensive subscription models.

>>15755161

Your time is worthless and you should end it. I'd hook you if I saw you.

>>15755155

War of the Ring rips off Battle Realms I think, same team.

>>15755163

>being this butthurt that I didn't suck your favorite game's cock

Okay, I'll just accept that its "the best LOTR" game for no reason aside from you saying that its good

>>15755135

The powers in BfME were taken straight from WotR. It was also far superior to BfME due to being based on the books and not Hackson's flicks.

>>15755155

>A shameless rip off of WC3

Cuckchan kids go home. Battle Realms came out before Warpoz 3 and War of the Ring was made on the same engine and with the same art direction. Blizzard was the ones ripping Liquid off.

The EA movie games were pretty good, as strange as that sounds to say.

>>15755184

Friend, you suck more cock than anyone I've ever spoken to. Don't sell yourself short.

>>15755195

Certain liberties had to be taken to make it into a game but it was literally based on the books you nigger, they had the book licence and not the flick licence. Which meant the team actually had to be creative and couldn't just shove Hackson's shit into every nook and cranny of the game like BfME did.

>>15755199

I don't know about that anon, I think you might have me beat there, as you played a shitty F2P WoW clone for an extended period of time, and unironically believe its the best lotr game

you have to be a massive semen chugger

>>15755206

You don't know about much, do you? I have in fact never played such a game. Perhaps if you weren't as much of a retard now as you were long ago you could appreciate it. But some things never change. Now go kill yourself, manlet.

>>15755198

Good hack and slash games, but goddamn, it got saturated when other studios do it for their own movie game adaptations. also fuck the Gollum boss fight. And good post-game modes and bonuses, me and brother played the living shit out of it, good times.

>>15755205

They say it's based on the book, but nothing it does is by the books.

Armor design, creature design, all are inferior to hackson flicks.

>>15755245

Is the AI any good? That's my biggest problem with any CA game.

>>15755256

It's a mod, and the AI is decent compared to the base game, because the devs went in and actually SCRIPT it.

>>15755266

I used to play stainless steel and the AI is what killed that mod. I'll give third age a try though, thank you friend.

Do mods count?

>>15755245

Plays better with divide and conquer mod

>>15755291

Sure, but the vanilla mod itself is good, even if it's completely overshadowed by Divide and Conquer.

>>15753747

Return of the King for the GBA.

Hands-down the best portable Diablo clone I've ever played.

Like >>15755007 Third Age is one of my favorite rpgs in general. It's basically a bunch of donut steels go on their own adventure in the background of the movies that sometimes directly crosses paths with the Fellowship, during which you get a super powered fourth team member for a boss fight when you usually only have three on the field. Some of my favorite bosses are helping Gandalf fight the Balrog/Witch King, the defense of Helms Deep, and the final battle which from a story perspective is you trying to fight the fucking Eye of Sauron directly, which is brilliantly retarded. There's also this really bullshit item called Morgul Rust that completely nullifies any enemy's Armor- even Sauron. There's also a thing called 'Evil Mode' which is you playing key battles from each story chapter as the evil creatures.

>Early chapters are hardest in Evil Mode because they were the easiest for the heroes

>Evil Mode gets easier as the main story gets harder

You get some cool equipment for the main story too.

The Hobbit on consoles is pretty good too.

>>15759730

Thanks for reminding me.

>>15760037

I actually like the base building in 1 though, having positions to build a building makes alot more sense to me than placing a mallorn tree in 2 and getting resources based on % of how clear it was. I would cover an entire map in Mallorn Trees and still not have enough resources to do what I wanted.

>>15755496

>1 has an enjoyable campaign but 2's fun was mostly making people angry due to how broken the factions and create-a-hero is. Also reminder that Angmar is trash.

The best part of create-a-hero is that you could break it entirely and add heroes you weren't supposed to.

>stack every damage booster in the game + that spear nuke

>play survival custom map feat. sauron that has 100x hp

>oneshot him

>>15753747

BFME2 is abandonware to the point that people made their own online platform for it. Never tried it. Nor care, BFME weren't good games.

>>15754877

only the Lion, Witch, Wardrobe one is any decent

CS Lewis is pretty overrated

>>15761026

This anon knows what's up, the game boy games were top tier

>>15760037

Well they were designed around the campaign progression really, which is just movie progression. You don't get a chance to build those heroes and Rohan/Gondor are only playable in their respective locations. But yes, it did completely disregard the books because EA saw that the movies could be a potential cash cow.

>Base building is possibly the worst out of any rts game ever made. Massively fixed in bfme2 where it's perfect (especially laying down walls it's so much more efficient).

Halo Wars is worse.

>>15760303

>Human hero spear nuke

>Dwarf earthquake hero that can one shot entire armies of normal units

>Invisible elf who could shoot past the fog of war and moved too fast for anyone but a mount to catch up with

<Trolls are bad though

The devs must have been high when they made the feature.

>>15759762

A question, fellow anon.

I like the Third Age a lot, because it's a neat idea, but the writing in the German version, which I played is absolutely atrocious. Basically, I had no idea what was going on at any point in the story, people say and do weird things, interact weirdly and it kinda feels like they were reading the script backwards or something. Is it the same way in the English version or is this a case of a really botched localization?

>>15760037

Come on, Anon, that's being really uncharitable.

<Rohan and Gondor are separate sides. Despite in the book being described as having an alliance with each other.

True, but that has gameplay reasons, otherwise you would've had only two or maybe three factions.

<Only the forces of men are considered worth having as forces to combat Isengard and Mordor. Despite the books having Elves and Dwarves. Took til the sequel to fix this

That's because the game focuses on the war in the South, and Dwarves and Elves were no real factor there.

<Base building is possibly the worst out of any rts game ever made. Massively fixed in bfme2 where it's perfect (especially laying down walls it's so much more efficient).

I see where you're coming from, but I guess basebuilding is so barebones because they wanted to focus on the battles.

<Gandalf is a hero of Gondor despite in the books being essentially an angel who wanders around everywhere. The Riders of Rohan even knew about him and so did the Ents.

To be fair, where else would you put him? Gondor makes the most sense because he fought with them during the siege of Minas Tirith.

<Merry and Pippin are for some reason part of separate factions. Makes zero sense

It makes a lot of sense. Merry became really friendly with the people of Rohan while Pippin became friendly with the people of Gondor. Again, where else would you put them? There's no Hobbit faction.

<Aragon is a hero of Rohan despite him becoming king of Gondor in the book

If that's true (I honestly don't remember) that is kinda stupid, but it sort of makes sense because in the movies he was way more militarily active in Rohan. He doesn't even show up in Gondor until towards the end of the Battle on the Pelennor fields.

<Despite being playable in the campaign Frodo isn't a hero in MP. Which also makes no sense since everyone else is there. Can be fixed by editing a .ini file

I'm with you there.

What I'm wondering, since most of those complains are a bit pointless, why haven't you mentioned the real flaws in the story, like Gandalf not being dragged down by the Balrog and Boromir not dying at Parth Galen.

>>15761202

shitty JRPG clone

>>15761218

JRPG clone.

With sensible coherent story due to not being Japanese.

That sounds good TBH.

>>15761227

And great sound effects.

>>15761134

From what I remember personally, the voice acting is passable but the story was still understandable. Sounds like the German version is screwed up.

>>15761270

Oh, don't get me wrong, overall I sort of understand what was happening, but everything about it was weird. I can't even really explain it, let me try to give you some examples.

>In the first area, Idrial and Elegost keep talking about healing Berethors wounds, despite the fact that he seems perfectly fine and they never do anything of the sort

>When they enter Moria, Hadhod reacts to the dead dwarves in a way that can only be described as mild disappointment.

>Idrial tells him that they'll re-conquer Moria, even though they're just a rag-tag group of four more or less random people who hadn't met until that very day.

There's other things, but I don't remember that much more because I haven't played it in a while and everytime I do I don't pay attention to the story.

Also, it's really weird when you meet the Fellowship, because all their dialogue is soundbites that have been pulled from various points of the movie. Not to mention that, at the end, you randomly fight Sauron.

>>15761202

>>15761227

>>15761232

Third age is boring insipid mediocrity

The fucking 3D BeatEmUps are much better if you want LoTR console stuff.

>>15761702

Actually come to think of it I'd have Gondor have access to Gandalf the Grey and have Rohan have access to Gandalf the White. And have them be different statwise. IE: Gandalf the grey is stronger in melee/moves faster but Gandalf the white has stronger spells.

Publishing parent company behind Warframe acquire LOTR rights and will be making an online focused game. They are chinks so hopefully they won't pozz it. Some people are suspecting it could be another MMO that competes with LotrO.

>>15753747

Not too bad, but what about mods like edain ?

shit is still developed by some gemans

>>15761863

Edain is like BFME1 but all of the flaws are removed

>A fuckton of factions. To the point where having Gondor/Rohan be separate is less of a big deal since they also have two dwarf factions and two elf factions

>The One Ring is an actual item you fight over and every faction has a unique Ring hero who can pick it up to become super powerful

>each ring hero has unique abilities

>the full Fellowship is playable

>Gandalf starts as Gandalf the Grey and can turn into Gandalf the white or become corrupted by the One Ring

>Can have epic engagements like Balrog vs Gandalf in multiplayer

>They even have The Hobbit units like Smaug, Thorin and Bilbo

They even improved BFME1's base building by making the maps more akin to small town settlements and you just build in preset plots

It genuinely feels more akin to a Middle Earth rts where all of the different sides across the Hobbit and Lotr can wage war against each other.

>>15761379

That all sounds about right. The game was always a weird type of LotR fanfiction from the get go. LotR games pulling audio from the movies is very common as well (even Third Age Total War does it). Only ones who could explain why the story was written that way would be the devs.

>>15761932

How does Edain compare to that one overhaul mod? The older one that was heavily based off of the movies and made skirmishes last for like 3 hours because 'muh realism'? Don't quite remember the name.

>>15762230

EA uses sound clips from the movies so that they don't have to pay actors to do new voice acting work. Its hilarious 20 years from now there will still be Gandalf shouting YOU SHALL NOT PASS. They also like reusing the soundtrack of the movies.

>>15762298

This. The lone exceptions being when they got the actor who played Elrond to do new VO for Bfme2 since it was an original story

Only the PS2 games based on the movies were any good.

>>15760249

>Lets face it the movies put LOTR on the map.

Nope, that's almost as bad as saying the movie adaption of Dune was what put it on the map.

>>15762339

Nah, I played both these and the console games that were also ported to PC.

Both were good game series, kill yourself fag

>>15760249

The Lord of the Rings is actually one of the highest selling books of all time. It's #2 at 150 million. The Hobbit is #5.

>>15762370

What about before the movies

>>15762445

Why do you think they made the movies, anon? Do you really think they dug up some random obscure unknown book series?

>>15762445

that's even before the movies

it was huge as far as books go, it was a major cultural phenomena

>>15762454

That's not statistics

>>15762445

In terms of sales the had 1/3rd of their sales after the release of Fellowship of the ring. So they had sold 100-105 million prior. Which is still massive.

>>15754886

I always thought it was obvious to what the ring represents, it's even in the name Ring of Power.

>>15762531

Tolkien was open to alternate interpretations of his text. He disliked allegory and "official" interpretations because it didn't allow for people to make their own minds about his works.

This is in stark contrast to later authors like JK Rowling who frequently reframes content in her own book. Like claiming Hermione was always meant to be ambiguously racial and Dumbledore was a homosexual despite there being no direct evidence of it in the actual text.

>>15762544

Anybody got that image of a old literature professor saying that reading JKR teaches you to read Stephen King?

>>15760057

I do what I can.

>>15760249

>Lets face it the movies put LOTR on the map.

Fuck off retard.

>Now the movies were made by a bunch of nerdy fan boys and girls who really liked the books.

The Hobbit movies and Amazon's upcoming dumpster fire are cheap cash-ins because that's how things are these days. The Jackson films were a labor of love as much as anything else.

>The games however were made to cash in on the movies.

As always.

>So I really doubt anyone at EA has read Tolkien or even gives a shit.

Even if they had read them they wouldn't be allowed to give a shit because it wouldn't sell.

>>15762544

>Like claiming Hermione was always meant to be ambiguously racial

That whole saga was hilarious; people were replying to her on twitter with passages from the books that mention Hermione's skin color.

>and Dumbledore was a homosexual

He sure as hell was a confirmed bachelor. That one was stupid but not nearly as retarded as the whole "Hermione could have always been a nigger for all you know" thing.

>>15762544

To be fair, Rowling is hardly even an author if you're mentioning Tolkien in the same post.

>>15762988

Rowling will say anything for attention from her autistic fanbase.

>>15764848

No, that's Saruman.

>>15755124

>meme posting

>>15755139

>>15755124

>>15755067

>>15760249

Half the thread is a pathetic redditspacing samefag that just discovered VPN. I'm sure I could identify more of his IDs, but I can't be fucked to read this normalnigger infested thread now.

Lord of the Rings: Conquest (PS3)

I would bet this game had the best player action mechanics. 5+ or so classes you can choose from, unique skills for each class, unique gameplay for each. Warrior has combo's and a charge gauge, sprint+hit, jump attacks, grabs, etc. Archer had multi shot skill for close range, fire arrow for 1 hit headshot kills, and poison for added time damage. Mage had a 5 meter sphere shield blocking all projectiles, lightning attack, and fireball which spreads on the ground. Assassin has a charge bar for invisibility, backstab 1 hit kills, and has a special backstab for large monsters like those Ogres. They have a satchel which destroys buildings/ground weapons and stuns enemies. Huge combo knife stun attacks.

Then you had special Hero characters which did their class abilities but on a whole new level, with unique weapons, attack styles, and skills. They could literally destroy an entire team alone 1 versus 8 if they were good. You can animation cancel your attacks as a mage like in smash bros Melee which speeds up your attacks, only a handful knew about this too.

Not to mention every online map had 10+ glitch spots which only a handful knew about, and you could reach unknown locations to shoot from just to be cool or do shortcuts with. Too bad there's no good videos of this game on youtube.

You can play an evil campaign or do a good campaign, so you get 2 unique stories. The maps replicate all of the movie's map assets, so it feels nostalgic.

>>15765155

There was progression for multiplayer, if you were the best on the team you unlock the Hero class halfway through, all heroes (20+ of them) have unique attack styles and animations if I recall. Nazgul, the Witch King of Angmar was really memorable. He has a jump attack that pushes him back and stuns the enemy. You can spam that attack at that height going backwards to reach insanely far locations. I wish we could get Conquest to emulate, this game needs to be documented.

>>15765162

>>15765171

It's on PC you dumbshit

and it sucks fucking ass as it's Battlefront with melee focus and it's as janky as it sounds

Forgot to mention Mount & Blade Warband has a good Middle Earth mod. TLD The Last Days. Choose your kingdom and fight their enemies on a Middle Earth campaign map. Towns have the feel of the actual setting. Elven towns are in woods and high in the trees. That one human city on a lake/river, and of course there's Minas Tirith.

>>15765177

Huh, never knew that. Probably because it wasn't sold on any platform. Hah, the last reviewer on Amazon 2 years ago used the word janky too… and described it as Battlefront-like.

There's another game that is relaxing, LOTR lego's. The first game has a nice world map to explore and weapons to unlock to scavenge things around the map. Was fun. The hobbit I never finished and wasn't as fun, don't think it had a world map, just linear gameplay.

>>15765193

EA at the time were using outdated as fuck engines for all of their games either they worked or not.

It also cut back in costs after they paid an expensive license.

But people had more standarts then so it fucking failed like it deserved, nowadays a game like that would probably be considered pretty good.

>>15765171

I meant progression in the sense that you'd unlock more gameplay options as you play along.

The Assassin has the explosive satchel, but suppose you have a loadout screen and you can pick different types of satchels, some are incendirary or poison gas, etc. The mage could have different spells, the warrior could train in different styles and have different combos, etc.

Perhaps tie the progression with a sandbox campaign, something like War of the Ring in Battle for Middle Earth 2.

Pick battles in regions near yours to take them, unlocking benefits for the next battles. Better equipment, newer abilities, newer heroes, etc. Something that makes it far more long-term focused.

>>15765177

>it's Battlefront with melee focus and it's as janky as it sounds

What's that supposed to mean? I'd kill for more melee focused games instead of pixel hunting sniper battles. Granted that the melee wasn't that deep but it was still pretty nice. Seriosuly, there's plenty of FPS like Battlefront but not enough TPS melee-centric like it.

>>15760037

>Get Third Age working.

>Start game as Gondor

>This comes up.

You know, I think I'm gonna be okay against the forces of Mordor.

>>15765257

I played it for a bit, the game sucks ass in the worse possible way. It plays like battlefront but you have to use NPCs as cannon fodder to even have a chance at getting close. The enemy melee will fuck you up if you go anything but archer. But enemy mages will annoyingly block your arrows as they can cast shields and you have to be melee to get inside to kill them but good luck because the enemy range are safe inside the bubble and you can't hit them.

First mission I did was Gondor vs Mordor I think, went down a shaft and there were 2 archers, 2 magic, 3 melee. I was melee, get locked in with one melee, kill him, die to range. Respawn, go range, kill another melee, and try to get close to magic but they bunch up and kill me.

Bots are useless and it's no fun.

>>15765526

Or you can pick Assassin, stealth behind the mages to backstab them, murder the archers and throw explosive satchels at the warriors?

I honestly didn't had that many problems and the AI really wasn't that retarded. Only issue ever was a campaign for Evil where, as the Witch King, you have to kill orcs fast enough to power a ritual but they don't spawn or die fast enough for that unless you cheese enviromental kills.

>>15753758

This.

At least if you're looking for the most in depth and lore filled Lotr game that is.

>>15761760

Heard about this. I hope they don't fuck it up. Lotro is probably seeing it's last few years now, that game is old…

All we know about that is that it is going to possibly follow the storyline of the new Lotr series… I doubt that the new amazon series won't be pozzed as fuck though. So unfortunately the game might just go the same way.

Also it'll be f2p on release, take that how you will.

War in the north isn't the best, but it's good for a single playthrough. Especially if you were into baldur's gate: dark alliance and other mindless PS2 games way back when.

Shit is really buggy though, multiplayer is fucked, and it never got any patches.

Unlike most gamers I can read and thus avoid the games like the plague. Typical EA cash grab trash.

>>15765579

Christianity stole from Jews and Pagans so I don't see the problem.

>>15765526

>Mordor sends 3000 orcs against my 1200 men at Osgililith.

>Have some melee but mostly archers.

>Wait on the west bank of the river for them to come to me.

>1200 slain orcs, rest fled back to the eastern cirty.

I'm gonna need more melee units if I ever hope to rebuild the city.

>>15766292

I'm also hanging on by a thread. I've got 3 more armies moving to secure more villages and more income, plus I think I can get some trade up with the elves through Rohan but if they send another group like that, I might have to fall back. But right now I'm sending every group I can to reinforce that position.

>>15766360

Yeah, that's why I'm investing heavily in military buildings now. May only have militia now but if I can get some decent soldiers out and capture and fortify Osgilith, It'll make marching on Minas Morgul a bit easier.

>>15766061

>Christianity stole from Jews and Pagans so I don't see the problem.

It's like the migrant crisis. Everything got forcibly replaced. The parts the replacers like got kept and passed off as their own, and the parts that conflict with them got erased. Instead of a variety of cultures and lore we have the pieces that didn't get erased.

>>15754886

The One Ring didn't represent anything, you retard. Tolkien hated allegory and did not include any in his books.

>>15766535

Tolkien hated direct allegory, but he still based stuff in LotR off of real-world things. For example, the phonetics of Dwarvish were based off of Ancient Hebrew, while the alphabet was based on the Norse Runic (Futhark) alphabet. The language and names of Rohan were based on Anglo-Saxon, but the culture of horsemanship wasn't.

He didn't like the type of allegory that directly transplants cultures and ideas and just renames them, but it's ridiculous to imagine that his experience as a youth in South Africa had no influence at all on his depiction of Orcs.

>>15766701

Double post.

Forgot to mention that it also features characters from the novel who didn't appear in the film, like Elrond's sons and Radagast, who isn't a cartoon character like in the Hobbit.

>>15766503

This is some good bait.

>>15765579

>>Majority of elements are from non-Christian cultures

Tolkien wasn't solely inspired by what he read in the Bible he was also basing a lot of it on earlier Pagan stories. I'm more so referencing what he said about the book. He was quoted saying that it was a catholic story however it was unconscious while he was writing it and conscious while he was editing it.

>>15766535

>Tolkien hated allegory and did not include any in his books.

He specifically said he hated allegory but acknowledged "applicability". He was also quoted as saying it was a catholic story that he initially wrote unconscious of the themes he put into it. There are very clear religious analogs throughout the book. (Gandalf's death and resurrection. The setting has a monotheistic God figure and a "Satan" figure responsible for creating all of the evil things in the setting like orcs and trolls. Frodo is stabbed in his side at one point. etc) People noticed this at the time when the book was written. All Tolkien really said was he disliked allegory because it presented an official interpretation (he referred to it as the dominion of the author).

>>15766535

He "hated allegory" but constantly used ww1 allegory in his writing.

>>15766873

It's not exactly accurate to say it's "allegory". It's more so he was inspired by his experiences being personally in war and used some of that experience when describing the world of the story. He also said the books were much darker in tone compared to The Hobbit primarily because they were still written for his son Christopher but he was grown up by that time and was in WW2. (The Lord of the Rings was actually written over a period of about 19 years. He said the first chapter he wrote was the second one where Gandalf explains the backstory of the One Ring to Frodo). He said he sent chapters to his son like the one where Frodo escapes the Nazgul while he was overseas.

>>15766889

As you said it's not allegory per se but obviously Isengard, saruman, the uruk hai, wild men of dunland, industrialization of middle earth etc. were pretty much effigies for WW1 germany. The manner in which the fellowship also addresses their enemies and fights them are very reminiscient of WW1 literature where the enemy is just referred to as "Boche" tolkien uses some term like Orc and or not named and for the most part not speaking either.

The movie games for gamecube kick ass im about to order them

Playing the Divide and Conquer mod for the first time an can confirm its quality. It's really fucking good and amazingly stable.

>>15765526

Loved the unit ranks system in the game. I wish more games would implement that

>>15761026

>based on the book

It uses art from the movie. Has anyone ever wondered why most LOTR games came out after the movies? Because most gamers actually watched the fucking films and not read the books.

Oh and reddit spacing is called paragraphs. Fuck this thread.

>>15770938

Go poop, Warner Bros. You ruined any chance I had to get a good orc enslavery simulator.

>>15770299

Pragraph is when you start a new line, not 2 lines. Go back to reddit. You also replied to yourself several times, so just hurry up and kill yourself.

This is what paragraph break looks like. The fuck are mods doing anyway? Is samefagging half the thread ok?

>>15766360

>Doing pretty good, managed to cheese my way into taking Minas Morgul with Faramir because he sat behind the first right of the wall and fired arrows with 8 different archer groups into the second. Bled my melee however so I gotta switch them out to heal.

>In the south, things going good against Harad.

>Until one group has Mumakil and I don't have any seige.

Lost that battle. I'm gonna rush Ballistae.

>>15765155

I spent an unhealthy amount of time playing Conquest given how shit-tier it was. I don't regret it, I had fun(mostly), but it was a shit game.

>>15770938

>The combat feels so good,

Eh, I suppose

>and it is quite challenging at the highest difficulty

Heh heh, no

>>15771811

>Big armies from Mordor about 2 turns away.

>Rush and gain control of much of Harondor

>Use a diplomat to get a ceasefire with the Haradrim, have to pay a kings ransom.

>Defeat Mordor armies and strengthen hold on Minas Ithil.

>Now driving up to capture Dol Guldur

Also preparing an Army for Isengard, once Saruman is out of the picture, Rohan can focus east to deal with the easterlings.