ad5ab8 No.15746547
What's the best Mario Kart and why is it Super Circuit?
>Actually demands skill
>Skill is the most important aspect
>Items can help but they don't take priority over other aspects
>Even red shells demand some thought and skill in order to be properly used
>You can actually outrun red shells and blue shells as long as your speed never decreases, or if you jump over non-solid ground
>You can unlock the original Mario Kart tracks from the first game
>Fucking 40 tracks
>Catchy OST
>Getting the three stars rank always results in some nerve-wrecking insane shit going on
ad5ab8 No.15746558
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Forgot to say, skill can lead you to do some crazy shit you weren't even expecting to pull off.
f5ec27 No.15746574
Crash Team Racing, because you are not constrained by your position to get good items and most of them won't make you go from first to last and vice versa, also the only way to get good items is to be skilled enough that you can hold on 10 fruits unlike in mario kart where you just gotta suck
ad5ab8 No.15746576
>>15746574
Call me crazy but I think that's not a Mario Kart game.
9bee49 No.15746596
>>15746576
Maybe. But it's still the best kart racer ever.
f5ec27 No.15746602
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>>15746576
>>15746596
Though calling it a standalone best game is disingenuous as the developers were avid fans of both Mario Kart and Diddy Kong Racing especially - they modeled a test track with the same layout of DKR to get a good feel for everything.
Circuit is one of my fave MK games though, but Double Dash and DS are just way funnier to play with friends and the Wii game has some insane autism behind its modding community.
ad5ab8 No.15746605
>>15746596
Yeah no. The main problem of CTR (which I love) is how hard you can abuse miniturbos almost all the fucking time. Which means that the amount of miniturbos one manages to use becomes the most important aspect in order to win.
ed898e No.15746606
Double Dash was shit but the co-op mechanic was so fun it makes me mad we never saw it again
f5ec27 No.15746619
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>>15746605
To be honest miniturbos infinitely enhance the game, but the one downside of them is that unless you unlock the secret characters (which are just reskins) you can only have two people using all the tech (the N. Gin and Coco players) while everyone else lags behind. Which by itself is not such a problem since most people never got the 4 player adapter, but lan games aren't as fun if two players are clearly OP.
Plus the miniturbos themselves have a lot of fun tech - minis conservation, where you just have to keep on having successful drifts or you lose all your speed, which makes you learn all the tracks and shortcuts perfectly, jump management, since staying in the air slows you down but you can do some absolutely sick jumps in places with half pipes, especially in the sewer track, lag manipulation, so you can go fast but shouldn't go too fast in places where a lot of objects are loaded in - which make the game much more enjoyable even so long after it was released. Any game that makes me go Shazbot levels of fast with tech or glitches is a good game.
9a4d03 No.15746630
>>15746547
Sonic Kart Transformed was better
627476 No.15747448
>>15746547
Super Mario Kart was the only good game in the entire series.
1a28be No.15747472
>>15746547
>Need skill
>Needs skills
>I'm just here to brag at being good in a party game
>You have to be skilled like me
>Gotta be skillful
>Fucking 40 tracks
>Catchy OST
>Did I mention it takes skill?
Are you 12?
fda617 No.15747489
>>15746547
This was the first I got for my GBA. I played the hell out of it to the point I'd race against my ghost for hours and hours to get the best lap time I could. When I finally got Mario Kart DS I always faced hackers, so the MP was useless outside of playing with friends at school, and the SP wasn't as fun as Super Circuit, so I just went back to that.
3489c0 No.15747516
>>15746574
I have to agree, CTR is the best Kart Racer I have ever played.
9b3892 No.15747668
>>15746558
>skills
>post a TAS
ad5ab8 No.15747692
>>15747668
It shows what the game is capable of and outside the shortcut exploits, that's what you can do in the game.
692978 No.15748542
>>15747692
It's a TAS, as in some of the stuff in it isn't humanly possible.
6cc10f No.15748705
>>15746547
>Mario Kart
>skill
Nope.
176e68 No.15748896
>>15748705
These games are way better than they have any right to be, and are better than any version of Mario Kart. As is this >>15746574
c96b86 No.15749649
>>15746574
This.
Also MK64 is the best MK.
2750ff No.15749670
GET OUT OF THE WAY, YOU DON'T HAVE NETWORK MULTIPLAYER WITH A THEORETICAL SUPPORT FOR UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF PLAYERS
b27849 No.15749701
>>15748705
Add another to that list.
fabc4c No.15750106
>>15746547
>Even red shells demand some thought and skill in order to be properly used
Is this some sort of joke? They are the fastest, most homing, and you can even plant them on the road to kill any passerbyers. I can't even remember if you can block them.
Super Circuit's Red Shells are the most powerful red shells in the franchise. What are you talking about OP?
9d5bdf No.15750303
>>15746602
anyone know the tune at 5:04?
can't fucking remember what it's from
ad5ab8 No.15750351
>>15750106
You should replay the game because you are the wrong one here anon
e0a310 No.15750451
Mario Kart is one of those series that gets more refined and better with each installment. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the best one right now.
>and why is it Super Circuit?
It's not.
e9d6b8 No.15750522
>>15748542
This is why I don't understand any TAS speed run. It inherently fucks with the game.
Then again the speed running community is fucking garbage anyways, so what's the point in complaining about it.
e63932 No.15750577
64d0da No.15750592
my favorite racing game is Ninja Gaiden.
322253 No.15750823
It still baffles me, why would sonic need a car? I can't take seriously a kart racing game where the selling character on it is associated with running fast. In SA2 I could understand since Tails never leaves the robot but why in this?
af5457 No.15750834
>>15749670
>after 11 years they finally add multiplayer
The height of opensource technology!
f5ec27 No.15750854
>>15750577
F-Zero is straight up racing, though.
>>15750823
Fairness to the other competitors? Though I really liked Sonic R when it came out.
>>15750451
Tell me three things that it does better than CTR and the Sonic racing games
43a48e No.15751149
>>15750823
>pollaconruedas
¿Español o sudaca?
43a48e No.15751151
>>15750854
That's why it's supperior. Kart Racing is for babbiez.
64d0da No.15751156
>>15750854
Tell me 3 things those games do better than rock & roll racing
f4403a No.15751188
>>15748705
Nope, disqualified.
692978 No.15751190
>>15751188
I'd have loved to keep forgetting that Yogcast and Danica Patrick exist.
d980c0 No.15751198
Crash Tag Team Racing had an interesting concept, half of it was a platformer as much as it was a racing game. The idea was that you can merge with another racer and become more powerful, one of you steers while the other mans a gun or throws bombs at others or something. The only problem is that when you disconnect from them, the gunner would always jump ahead of the driver slightly and get a little speed boost, which meant you could basically piggyback from whoever was in first place and steal the race right at the end of it.
cf62a6 No.15752347
>>15751188
That was only because the faggot had his rabid fanboys rig a poll on who people wanted as a DLC character, and it was so ill received it killed all future plans for new character DLCs for the game.
9d5bdf No.15752932
>>15750303
bump
one of you must know it
a725fc No.15752985
>>15752347
>B-but SEGA listens to fans!
This is why you shouldn't. Input is ok, but when you give in to their demand, shit like this can happen. Fans are shit in the first place, they should work as they see fit.
827122 No.15753115
>>15751149
>polla
>sudaca
Los panchitos no usan la palabra polla
fabc4c No.15754594
>>15750351
No, I am correct.
>Red shells in MK64 are retarded and try to take shortcuts, effectively becoming useless if you are too far away from your enemy and constantly crashing into walls unless you are in last place or so
>Red shells in Double Dash are incredibly slow, the slowest in the franchise, and extremely easy to dodge even without a boost, you just need a hard drift. Also only Koopa/Paratroopa even had the ability to do 3 red shells and they didn't even protect your Kart regardless of one or 3 shells.
>Red shells in Mario Kart DS are normal and good but lack the ability to place behind you. They can hit you from the side though.
>Red shells in Mario Kart 7 & 8 are decent because they have better AI to travel in the air and over gaps, but you have so many options to defend against them that they are easy to avoid if you have an item. Otherwise, they are pretty good.
<Red shells in Super Circuit
>one of the fastest in the franchise
>homes incredibly well, not too slow like Double Dash and not retarded like MK64 (and most of the tracks in Super Circuit are more flat so there is little obstruction)
>Can be placed behind you and will active like a trap if any racer pass buys it, making them the only game where they are useful even if you get them at higher rankings or first place
There is no downside to the Super Circuit red shell. None.
>>15750451
>Mario Kart is one of those series that gets more refined and better with each installment.
surely you jestin
>>15750577
also this
07324b No.15754606
>>15746547
Don't forget the best jump system and jump placements in the series.
>tfw they remade ribbon road for MK8 but removed all the fun parts
b51a1b No.15754612
>>15752985
Those weren't SEGA fans. When you listen to SEGA fans you end up with Sonic Mania.
6d29e1 No.15754626
>>15746574
This, except Diddy Kong Racing is better.
2750ff No.15754645
>>15754626
>I like round tracks: the game
haha no
6d29e1 No.15754658
>>15749670
Holy shit it's about goddamn time.
3f402b No.15754683
I'm glad we agree OP, you're not a fag for once.
8c2b6e No.15754718
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>>15750451
MK is "two steps forward, one step back the series". The only reason MK8D ending being really good was improving on MK8 (like bringing back 2 items) and removing the terrible idea of using "loop" race tracks as battle mode stages and putting in proper ones.
The only way it would have been better would have been putting in Double Dash style two person karts. The Switch has co-op right out of the box with the included Joy Con and it would have been perfect to bring it back as new content for an upgraded re-release of MK8, such a missed opportunity.
>>15754606
>>tfw they remade ribbon road for MK8 but removed all the fun parts
You mean the massive fucking shortcut using the first jump to land on track past the second jump? I'll admit that would have been a bit game breaking if they had kept that in.
Then again I'm pissed they fenced up that cool cliff jump shortcut in Yoshi Valley in MK8, that one was a challenge to do (requires high speed, hopping at the right time and possibly drifting) and felt amazing performing it the first time. Vid related shows it off at 0:19.
322253 No.15757102
>current year + 3
>niggers still haven't played or heard of south park rally
If these images don't sell you the game I don't know what will
eeee7d No.15761105
>>15749670
65536+ player gamenight when?
f5ec27 No.15761200
>>15754626
CTR ripped off a lot from DKR but it's still a much better game. It makes you really want to play as much as possible and beat your own records.
59dce1 No.15761225
Mario Kart will forever be garbage until they remove the blue shell. What was the last mario kart before that trash was added?
a190c0 No.15761466
>>15757102
The controls are good and it's a fun play but dude its ridiculously easy
b51a1b No.15761480
>>15761225
Super Mario Kart. Although some games the CPU will never get a blue shell.
f5ec27 No.15766688
>>15761480
>>15761225
So what would a good Mario Kart have as its item list?
ccf5b6 No.15766716
>>15750522
It pushes the game to its technical limit to create the theoretical "perfect play". A lot of the autism in speedrunning comes from the execution, but with TAS, execution isn't a big deal because you can use save states and frame advancing. The autism in TAS comes from picking the game apart meticulously, discovering quirks and exploits in the engine. I find that way more passable than RTA.
2750ff No.15766730
>>15766716
TAS also includes rng manipulation, it's not just execution
1cf49e No.15766783
>>15752347
>That was only because the faggot had his rabid fanboys rig a poll on who people wanted as a DLC character
Why? For what reason? Can anybody supply me with a sceencap or a video detailing this? I can't believe somebody would even try such a ridiculous thing.
503bd4 No.15766856
>>15766783
<why is the sonic fanbase autist fags
fuck knows dude
best kart racer since ctr
40f13f No.15773480
>>15753115
>Los panchitos no usan la palabra polla
Not necessarily true. It probably depends more on local dialect than anything else.
t. ecuatoriano
8663cd No.15774469
>>15746547
Crash Team Racing
b27849 No.15774621
>>15766856
>sonic fanbase
>voting in Simon
It was precisely not the fanbase that voted him him.
22d1a6 No.15774736
>>15766688
I want racing with items, not item management with a bit of racing. Nerfing items in general is the way.
Red shells that can't do sharp turns and crash when going from flat surface to ramp. A shrinking flash that doesn't strike when there isn't open sky right over your cart and that first changes the sky to give you half a second of a warning, and it also doesn't stop your momentum during a jump. A blue shell that makes three attempts on hitting you and only if you dodge it twice and get hit on the third attempt does it make the spectacular big explosion. Marginally decreasing hitstun when hit by several things in a row.
b250e9 No.15775379
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>>15751190
The reason Danica got in was because Hotwheels helped advertise the game. Still never want to play her though.
>>15751198
>Crash Tag Team Racing
And now I have the music stuck in my head.
I liked the platforming mostly, though you are right the actual racing is a bit of a joke due to the transforming (hell you didn't even need to piggy back whoever was in first, just find Nina or N.gin and blast everyone away, then jump out before the end before the AI did).
f5ec27 No.15779274
>>15774736
>Red shells that can't do sharp turns and crash when going from flat surface to ramp.
Funny you mention that because the whole reason why CTR has a way better red shell item than Mario Kart (that is, you need at least a quasi direct line of sight to get the rockets to find your enemy) is an oversight by the devs: basically, the rockets track perfectly on the horizontal axis, but will maintain whatever vertical position they had when they were first launched, so if you just shoot them at random, especially mid curves, the rockets will go apeshit and sometimes even go back and crash into your own kart. You can see this by going to the beach level and standing on the small bridge at the midway point and having your enemy stand right below it.