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I think the ratio of good kickstarter games is something like 9:1 at this point.

Of course. Why I even thought a game released in the modern year would scratch my Ultima Underworld itch is beyond me.

>Some guys have been able to glitch the game and complete it in 20 something minutes

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the unity engine destroys another dream

I could've sworn that it was going to be a physic-based dungeon crawler

>>15744196

It was, and I assume it is since I saw a clip of some guy breaking down a door only for the game to bug out and not let him through it. More like EA faggotry destroys another dream.

>>15744196

Remember kids: don't blame the engine when it was likely shitty SoCal programmers who don't know shit, it's like blaming the ink and pens used by CalArts fags for the terrible shows they make. A bad craftsman blames his tools.

>>15744219

what are some good games made in unity?

>>15744258

Tarkov

>>15744258

Furi, Hand of Fate(debatable but I like it), I'm not sure but I also think Cuphead and Ori were unity games?

>>15744113

>Kickstarter game running on the Unity engine

>Looks and plays like shit

Who could've seen this coming?

>Friendly reminder the animation and lighting in this trailer looks somehow looks worse in the final game.

Not even Capcom triple A budget could save Umbrella Corp from looking and running like shit.

>>15744258

It's an old indie game, but Robot Roller Derby Disco Dodgeball was good fun when it was alive.

>>15744258

Overload. Unity is good, it's just that shitty devs flock to it in droves due to the fact that it's free/cheap.

>>15744295

Nah, I'm pretty sure Unity is shit, not even professionals can make it work. It always runs like shit and is wonky in general.

>>15744320

Wasteland 2 and Shadowrun ran okay on Unity.. But there are better engines they could have used.

Unity is quite garbage but it is fast and cheap.

>>15744320

>bunch of games are listed between >>15744274 >>15744294 >>15744295

>none of which have performance problems

<not even professionals can make it work. It always runs like shit and is wonky in general

I guess Cuphead retroactively ran like shit. Unity really isn't that bad, just modern developers are fucking trash and usually SJWs more focused on thought policing than developing their games. Or they write shit code like Yanderedev.

>>15744333

Shadowrun didn't run as smoothly as it should have for me. Don't know about Wasteland 2 as I stayed away from that dumpsterfire.

>>15744349

Your indie game you made with unity is trash btw

>>15744364

I work in Godot because I prefer how it codes, stay mad non-dev fag who knows literally nothing.

>>15744366

trash

>>15744375

you're so triggered

>>15744378

pee pee poo poo

>>15744320

Yeah man, Cuphead and Ori and the Blind Forest totally ran like garbage. It's shit devs, not the engine.

>>15744417

Doesn't cuphead run at a perfect 60fps on core2duos? Ori had some performance issues but it was pretty competently made.

The ex-LGS SJW kikes making this shit deserve to have it fail. It will be no surprise once it ends up the turd razor fist desperately hopes it isn't.

>>15744452

It pains me to see former LGS employees reduced to gibbering fuckwits because of leftism.

Developers are influenced to make intentionally shitty games so that the crap the publisher cabal puts out will look better by comparison.

I will never understand why people throw out money to kickstarters etc. Such a weird concept. Donate what like over 800k to me and i'll most likely find some people to make some shitty game or whatever.

>>15744320

>Nah, I'm pretty sure Unity is shit, not even professionals can make it work

The developers of Overload did, because the guys who worked on it were the original creators and programmers of Descent way back in 1994 and a flight simulator before that. They know their shit. They mentioned on a stream that the way they managed to get it optimized was to simply rewrite as much as Unity's rendering code where possible.

>>15744258

Enter the Gungeon

>>15744417

Those a gay mainstream reddit games. It's like the Umaru or Jojo of video games.

>>15744320

>Nah, I'm pretty sure Unity is shit,

You don't even know what the fuck you are even talking about fuck off.

>>15744274

Hand of fate is the shit. Have you played 2? Is it any good?

>>15744753

2 is good. Thematically magical elements are being phased out by the empire which ties into gameplay being mostly human enemies, but then turning around and sicking the odd necromancer/corrupted/mage/ogre at you who put up a really challenging fight. You get more gambits, namely a dice game and a pendulum game(I prefer the latter over the former), and now instead of going after a Jack of [Faction] you're now going through challenges named after Tarot decks and these challenges don't necessarily end in boss fights as they do build up an adventure around a gimmick(For example, start with 10 health, but food doesn't heal you, or save villages from an approaching horde by either trying to reason with them to leave or waiting until the horde is at their door and then fucking the horde up, etc). You get companions to help you in fights and they have their own quest lines that end in them getting a cool upgrade and a slight model change.

To be honest I've played it up until the 17~th challenge, the reason for this is simple. The 16th or so challenge is called Death, you're marked by some assassin for death and you have to horde max health upgrades to avoid being instakilled by his arrow. Except the challenge is stupidly short, there is no time factor, the challenge specific encounters are worthless(they're just a combat encounter with thieves, nothing more and nothing less) and it completely revolves around you dying once and then realizing you need to stack your deck(which only allows for 8 encounter cards and 8 equipment cards in this particular challenge) with life upgrade cards and then you finish it in the blink of an eye. Then the next challenge requires you to gather copious amounts of food and if you don't stack those food gathering cards you're fucked again and if you do it's a breeze, I got the impression the rest of the remaining 4 or so challenges would revolve around that type of shit so I took a break. The previous challenges were a blast though and Strength in particular is my favorite.

It's also a small gripe but I feel the music isn't up to par to the first game. The first game's music stood out, every track did. The card shuffling music, the card phase, every combat track(especially since instruments would be added when you cross certain combo thresholds) and especially the instrumental version of the main theme which plays after beating every challenge. The second game, I really can't mention any of the tracks besides three, the 5 second victory jingle for winning any non boss victory, the new card shuffling theme which lasts for 20 or so seconds(which I guess is because card shuffling doesn't take as long as the previous game) and a 5 second string part of the pre-challenge menu where you pick your encounter and equipment cards.

As for combat you get three weapon types, light(dual daggers), one handed(sword and board), and heavy(maces/hammers), and an artifact(consumable bombs, potions, etc). The animations for the light weapons are fantastic and there are finishers for knocked down enemies, but enemy variety doesn't seem as much as the first game, and it stems again from the lack of mythological enemies. I especially miss the lizardmen since I remember them the most making the combat difficult and challenging, while here it's mostly the necromancer Shade of Skulls which appears once in a blue moon that's challenging mainly because if you don't whack it around every few seconds it'll start slowly draining your life with an unblockable move.

tl;dr: It's pretty good but I remember the first game more fondly. Also the dealer's sass is pretty nice in the second game.

>>15744168

The obnoxious overbearing tutorial voice is what really damns it. A perfect blend of the game assuming you're retarded and telling instead of showing.

>>15746133

Excellent write up but also a bit disappointing. Really all the game needed was more variety in encounters. They could have kept all enemies the same and it wouldn't have mattered. Still sounds pretty fun, I'll give it a try.

>>15746382

What's funny is that the dealer keeps saying how the world is now free of myth and wonder because of the empire but the game itself really could use a bit of myth and wonder in its enemy variety.

>>15746133

I'm currently at the 20th challenge of Hand of Fate 2, The Sun. And let me tell you, some of the endgame challenges are absolute bullshit in terms of difficulty. Or at least, if you're trying to get the gold tokens. Unless of course you know exactly which cards to bring, then it becomes far more manageable.

The Star is a load of shit because of one simple reason: curses. This challenge keeps throwing curses at you left and right and it flat out forces an item on you that draws more curse cards for every encounter, making the demon platinum card you receive by beating the Devil challenge an absolute must. And then you have to fight like 4 mages at the same time at the end. Just finishing this bloody challenge is a challenge in itself.

The Moon in itself is not that bad, unless you're trying to get the gold token in which case in becomes an RNG-fest because of one simple reason, that one faggot in the graveyard in which you have to roll an 18 on the dice in order to succeed which I have failed so many times even with the right equipment and companions. Nevermind all the other encounters which require precision timing in the pendulum or doing all the right things. And you only have one chance. Fail, and you have to restart. Too many times have I had one person too few to get the gold token.

Some day I will go back to the game and finish the game, but I haven't had any desire so far. Though I will say I appreciate that this game exists. It is definitely one of the more unique games released recently. I still wish I could figure out how to get the damn gold token on the Justice and have the luck for the gold token on the Temperance challenge.

>>15744113

I don't know who that streamer is, but in the first 15 seconds he made me chuckle with those Michael Jackson remarks.

Anyway, I remember hearing about this game. What was it based on, again? One of the old Ultima games, right?

How hard is it to fuck such a simple formula up?

>>15744333

Wasteland 2 runs like shit considering it looks like a PS2 game, if even that. It also has a memory leak or something, at least on windows.

>>15746460

The gold token for Justice is basically forgetting anything else in the game exists and just rushing for the forests/quarry Asap. You go the light forest, huge success it twice, then go build a palisade while you go the quarry and get a couple of stone success/huge success. Once that's done, you go down from the mountain river encounter and build a bridge, and go to the dense forest to get a bunch of wood, while going back to the fort to replenish food and queue defenses. Once the first raiding party that goes through the mountain pass reaches the fort, you are told that the raiders use a hidden passage through the quarry. You get a bunch of soldiers and go to the quarry, and what you do here(which is the peak of bullshit in the challenge in my opinion) is not huge success, but success the card gambit. You'll find a new encounter called Greyfall tunnel, where you can narrow the tunnel to force the northerners to go the long way around. From there you should have enough wood and stone to build the rest of the defenses(I like to keep the central tower to the end since it takes the longest time to build and you need defenses to reduce the amount of soldiers killed per raid). Once's that's done, you should have around 500-600 soldiers left(500 minimum is the requirement for the gold token), and you go through the greyfall tunnel(as to not run into raiding parties and lose more soldiers) into the village. Viola, gold token. I don't really remember what you get from it. If you're feeling really sick of the challenge you can always Alt-F4 failures on the gambits, but I never did that except in challenges I really don't want to redo(i.e Justice).

Temperance I actually got the token on my first try, and it's pretty easy. Just get the pious robes/inquistor's rament(the one that reduces max health by 1 instead of 10 health) and when you find peasants asking for food, give them all your food and then keep explaining you don't have any, no peasant will die then. The ogre encounter, don't fight him, but instead reason with him and you'll keep getting equipment should you succeed in all the gambits, you'll probably get the robes in no time. Honestly I disliked that challenge because I had to look up which one it was, despite finishing it two days ago.

>>15744131

7:3 is a more fair ratio if you include the games that might have ended up pretty meh, but at least can be considered a finished game that technically delivered everything promised during the kickstarter.

>>15744113

I knew this game looked ugly butt fuck me, I wanted a new game like this.

>>15744113

It had some cool shit with the various builds, gonna wait till they actually fucking fix this.

Redpill me on this game.

>>15746621

It was touted as a spiritual successor to the likes of Ultima Underworld and Looking Glass games, and that's pretty much all I know of it outside of a gameplay dev diary which looked kind of impressive. Whether or not the actual game is good is beyond me since I really couldn't get far, but it's a buggy mess of a release with terrible performance and more bugs than a bethesda release.

>>15746669

I just remembered that Richard Garriott's Shroud of the Avatar released a few months back with no fanfare, and like this game, it also uses Unity.

>>15744219

>>15744295

I don't know, so far every single game that has run consistently like shit for me has been a Unity game,even the ones that kind of didn't had their minimum/recommended specs blown out of proportions considering they don't even look that great.

>>15746695

I still maintain that you haven't seen shit performance on Unity if you haven't played Satellite Reign.

Never has a game looked so mediocre and ran so fucking terrible to the point that you get the same performance on low settings as you get on ultra.

>>15744113

I was drunk and alone one night and backed this for $20. It was a mistake that I regretted as soon as they announced that they would be going with Unity as an engine. They had to do some pretty serious damage control, loads of backers were wondering why they weren't using Unreal, they said that it would be faster to prototype and implement and a part of me wanted to hope that everything would be alright.

The game is absolute trash. I'm playing with specs far above the minimum but it has this annoying stutter that never goes away. Moving around the world is a nightmare, you get stuck on every little detail on the ground. Every step is like trying to walk on a physics object in an elder scrolls game. You can get stuck in pools of water because you can't build up enough speed to get up the slope and transition out of the water movement mechanics onto dry land. Puddles act like deep bodies of water for the purposes of movement, so be careful not to step in them. Everything feels wonky.

But most importantly

THE GAME DOES NOT SAVE PROPERLY

If you save within a level, when you load the game you will keep all your items and equipment, but you will lose all of your progress through the area. If you get halfway through the level, save your progress and quit, you lose your progress. If you get partway through the level, plant one of the checkpoint markers you are given and then save, you lose your progress. Nowhere in the game does it tell you this. The game just says 'save' and 'load'. To find an explanation for their bumfuck retarded saving system you have to go onto their forums or into the steam community discussions where one of the devs says "It's a design choice to have a super unintuitive and non-functional saving system that is never explained in game. It only works as expected in the central hub area."

But the worst part is the apologists who say that giving negative reviews means that the game will never be patched and therefore everyone should suck the devs dicks in the hope that maybe they'll ejacualte a patch that fixes all the countless bugs and horrible design choices. It fucking infuriates me.

First review (italian) is out https://archive.fo/sAVsB

>Difficult to find a reason to buy a game designed and made so bad. Under these conditions, perhaps it would be better to remove it from the sale, or at least review it as an early access. You decide if you are willing to bet on the resolution of all the problems that are afflicted, because, basically, some ideas were good.

>3.5/10

>>15746849

Garriott is a cuck faggot so it isn't surprising.

>>15744219

Both are shit. Both are to blame.

>>15744526

They were always like that. The difference is that now you know it. Never trust any western developer.

>>15750553

muh looking glass studios

>>15750553

>remember thief and ud?

This game is heavily casualised and wrapped in unity with 800k$ from kickstarter that was amazingly badly managed apparently, because i've seen vastly better games for a half of that budget.

>>15751113

>amazingly badly managed apparently

pretty much, it became apparent halfway through development when they suddenly started cutting features en masse and talking about how it won't actually be like UU

the real kicker was that gog wouldn't sell the game because it failed all their QA tests

>>15750609

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

>>15751136

>the real kicker was that gog wouldn't sell the game because it failed all their QA tests

lmao, I didn't knew that