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6d735d  No.15742820

Strictly speaking of vidya, what do you personally consider worse: in your face strong wyming characters or passive aggressive inclusive composition where people are perfectly casual about some chick with twigs for arms working as a blacksmith?

cfd54c  No.15742824

File: ac73c61c0839ee3⋯.png (94.7 KB, 320x320, 1:1, thinkingjojo.png)

>monshiro

you have second best taste


41414e  No.15742829

File: 9e311fb71ee2730⋯.png (340.81 KB, 660x680, 33:34, shit taste.png)

Compromise with either of those is digusting.


9d3e68  No.15742837

The first is insufferable no matter what, the latter just looks silly and if the devs aren't active on social media or don't use it for politics it may very well be a joke, but if it's somehow confirmed that they did it because the diversity God demanded it then fuck them.


b577a9  No.15742858

File: 391d9211a897a6e⋯.png (146.93 KB, 246x471, 82:157, Confused teach.png)

>>15742820

>passive aggressive inclusive composition where people are perfectly casual about some chick with twigs for arms working as a blacksmith

I don't understand, would their be a difference between the Jap meme of having girls in cute clothes doing all kinds of things they shouldn't and this "passive aggressive" approach? Like, what's an example of a dev "passively agressively" adding girls? I don't mind cute girls doing cute things in my vidya if the game isn't peddling itself as "ultra-realistic historically accurate".


ae7edc  No.15742860

File: 91a3f4c8e1e2eeb⋯.jpg (87.66 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, 1438806810886.jpg)

>>15742820

>Monshiro


9ec7d1  No.15742870

i dont care aslong she is cute


98ddad  No.15742873

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d5cb39  No.15742877

File: fa8b1cd7af11031⋯.jpg (54.41 KB, 500x500, 1:1, 1467857219234.jpg)

>not Miyako

You were THIS close to having good taste.


6d735d  No.15742880

File: 6c1c6052a80eab5⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 114.49 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 7ehd7.jpg)

>>15742824

Clearly.

>>15742847

Historical. Ancient Greece in this particular case. But it's not much better if it's a more modern setting. The only countries to ever employ women under arms and actually went to war as such did so under extreme desperation. Notably presoviet revolutionary Russia that fell apart a question of months.

>>15742858

Cute girls get a pass, obviously. As for an example try FO New Vegas for a well known one; half the fucking NCR army are women. Try almost anything by ubishit and more then half are.


40b2ad  No.15742885

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>>15742820

Either is fine if done well and is appropriate to the games context. Otherwise intentions behind the decision made is what's more important than the actual decisions which can be judged on a scale from "we need a token wymen character" to "gamers should embrace diversity".

Gameplay wise if a female character in an rpg doesn't differ stat wise from a male one it is immersion ruining and bad, but understandable, since that would imply designing your game around 2 entirely different situations happening in your introduction stages and your endgame.


3a336a  No.15742897

>>15742880

> half the fucking NCR army are women

Well, it IS the New CALIFORNIA Republic, anon. Honestly, having half male half female raiders makes sense, anything goes with a roving group of psychopaths. Fallout is a good setting for female troops, since there aren't many options aside from being a raider/merc or being some oppressed piece of shit(or in NCR's case, shoveling brahmin shit)


cfd54c  No.15742899

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>>15742880

Miyako>>monshiro>azumi>margit>momoyo>tatsuki>yukie>chris>kazuko>the rest are forgettable


98ddad  No.15742906

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>>15742899

>Ranking Kazuki so lowly.

>Not having in Benkei

Poor taste.


cfd54c  No.15742911

>>15742906

Benkei was an alcoholic and they can all die,kazuki was just sad because she could never live up to her dream.


6d735d  No.15742913

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>>15742885

I don't know anon. I've came to the realization that I've grown accustomed to mary sues. Girls that for whatever silly or plot reason are in fact stronk. I mean, why shouldn't they be if they earned it? But I keep seeing this angle of naturalizing some artificial equality. >>15742897 for example.

>having half male half female raiders makes sense

In what way? I get camp followers and I get wyches but this is something else.

>Fallout is a good setting for female troops

No, it's a horribly stupid one. First it's obsidian retconing every other FO game and secondly it doesn't make sense to waste your potential population growth by sending women into war. Especially since we're talking irradiated post apocalyptic. If they went Caeser is in our back yard and we've no choice, then sure, at least they explained it.


be09a7  No.15742920

File: 28267dbe47f7e12⋯.png (333.43 KB, 481x572, 37:44, latest.png)

Dunno if this is what you mean exactly but Welkin is a tremendous tree-hugging emasculate faggot that would be guzzling cock were he not drafted. I don't know what Alicia sees in this waste of sperm.


cfd54c  No.15742921

>>15742917

She was okay,i do like the whole "getting a former war general to beg for your cock" thing but it was too short in my opinion


6d735d  No.15742930

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>>15742917

Bear in mind that Momoyo is open to threesomes.

>>15742920

A personal Tank?


be09a7  No.15742942

>>15742930

Was he using it before he was drafted


ae7edc  No.15742946


40b2ad  No.15742964

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>>15742913

>I mean, why shouldn't they be if they earned it?

I have never implied that they are required to earn it, only that they should be appropriate to the context. If the context is not "realistic vidya, serious shit only" then a fanservice women character, for example in the role of a blacksmith is completely fine by me. Well, as long as it works.

>In what way?

In an apocalyptic scenario where you don't have enough manforce - women don't have the luxury of staying home babysitting n'shiet. To what extent, eh, that's debatable and is not worth to be concerned about in my opinion especially since we are talking about 3d fallouts I mean about skyrim with guns.


298805  No.15742967

In-your-face is always more obnoxious. There's doing strong wymin right (Bayonetta, old Lara Croft) and then there's doing it the Current Year way.


d4f3ed  No.15742991

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>>15742880

>The only countries to ever employ women under arms and actually went to war as such did so under extreme desperation. Notably presoviet revolutionary Russia that fell apart a question of months.

Do you just not remember the millions of women that fought for the Soviet Union in WW2 or what? It is true there was a female battalion deployed in 1917 but that is nothing compared to how many fought in WW2.

While on the topic, vid related is one of the few non-shoe horned female characters in vidya.


d4596e  No.15742994

Stronk Wymyn. They usually feel like someone's self insert and the story takes a dump every time they appear just so that they can appear to have the moral high ground or be stronger/"cooler" than anyone else, and their writing as snarky sarcastic bitches is given a free pass because she's stronk wymyn!

All I want to do is fucking kill, humiliate, skip or just shut the the bastards up and the games won't let me.


1c9264  No.15743006

>>15742820

Either are fine, as long as it's done tastefully. But "strong wyming characters" are clearly MUCH more likely to be terrible on every level. Chicks with twig arms doing blacksmithing work aren't very realistic, but at least they're attractive. I would not want a woman who would look like the real world comparison of a female blacksmith, if there even is such a thing. Who actually wants to see that level of realism, aside from SJW idiots who wouldn't play the game regardless?


6d735d  No.15743050

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>>15742991

I said notably and not exclusively. And even then not in mixed or frontline units for obvious reasons.

>>15742994

I'd agree with you until recently but I've grown to hate and then some the whole, I don't know, normalization of this shit. History has seen weird characters rise to prominence despite the odds and what pisses me off is how this both trivializes their fairly interesting stories and forces some equality garbage down your throat.

Take Total War for example; once upon a time you had screeching women, a unit that by the very description is some ancient cheerleader support distraction. Then you got gladiatrix, noble cavalry, female assassins and God knows what other shit. I'm personally expecting mixed gender Roman cohorts by Rome 3.


7ffdde  No.15743066

>>15742820

I think both are shit and leftists need to be rounded up and shot.


2b3bac  No.15743073

>>15742991

Being a medic/ any non combat unit

>female battalion

this is from wikipedia

"Faced with the decision of what to do with their women's units, the military at first decided to shift them into auxiliary roles away from the front,"

women's job, even more so during a war, is to make babies


2b3bac  No.15743076

>>15743073

didn't finish that

Being a medic/ any non combat unit still counts as them "fighting in the war"


7ffdde  No.15743089

>>15742991

>the millions of women

Anon, whatever kool-aid they shoved down your throat, you need to vomit it out.

Females in the Soviet military came in a few varieties. Cocksleeves for the officers was the primary function they tended to serve, usually in the guise of administrative workers or staff support. Then you had shit like snipers and the Night Witches, but they were the exception rather than the rule.

At no point did the Soviets filed millions of women under arms, and even those they did field they did because Germans kept slaughtering and capturing their men by the tens of thousands.

Just the fact that throughout the whole of human history you can count on one hand (supposed) examples of women in the military should tell you all you need to know about this topic. And the sad part is that leftists are too stupid to figure out our ancestors were pragmatic first, and whatever attitudes to women they had coming as a distant second. If there had been a point in using women as soldiers someone would have done so, and if proven successful, others would have followed. As it stands, no one did, and any and all attempts to make women into soldiers have ended in disaster and humiliation for the cunts.


d4596e  No.15743092

>>15743050

I don't really mind it if it's for eye candy.

If anything I think it would make for a neat game where you're some diplomat or some guy fighting for peace, and all your enemies are women soldiers and you get to dick both factions until peace is made.


1c9264  No.15743118

>>15743089

Just wanted to say that I agree with everything you said about female soldiers. If they were tactically viable for military service, then they would have served. As if the rich and powerful give the slightest fuck whether their armies have men or women in them. Plebs are plebs. To assume otherwise is idiotic.


1c9264  No.15743227

>>15743089

>>15743118

It's also worth noting that I used to be in the military. My unit was a combat arms unit, so we had no females. But I was around when the rule against having females inside combat arms units was abolished. By the time I got out we began to get a few females in the brigade. I saw them in the field sometimes, and I can tell you that all I ever heard about them was complaints.

I'm glad I got out before I was ever expected to personally work with them in the same setting. There is absolutely no way they would have been physically, and probably not even mentally, capable of doing the job as well as the men in the unit. Simply put, they are too soft. There might be some exceptions, for women who go to the gym 7 days a week for strength training. But even they would only be as capable as the average male soldier, at best. Even then, they would be more of a liability for the unit than beneficial.

I would only have women in the military as a last resort, for combat arms units. They can serve well enough in support units, as nurses and secretaries and undemanding logistical roles.


997565  No.15743289

>>15742877

>fucks over her friends just for dick

nah


c7d3f6  No.15743294

>>15742991

>Soviet Union in WW2

Even if that was true the frontline grunts were just meat paste to pave way for their vehicles, literally sending them to die that was Soviet grunt's purpose.


7ffdde  No.15743298

>>15743227

The Marines tested mixed and all female units. They found out that putting women in with men led to a stark drop in combat effectiveness. All female units were an even bigger disaster.

The Rangers were forced to test out females and all of them flunked out, but only after they were allowed to retake the test at least three times and standards were lowered.

A kike general in the IDF pushed for women serving in frontline tank units. They found out none of them had the upper body strength to handle 120mm shells or help during maintenance duties, they were a detriment to team cohesion and couldn't handle the work environment (in terms of hygiene requirements).

Then you have that story about the US Navy where the two female officers in charge of the ship crashed the thing, while in the open sea, because they refused to talk to each other.

Pretty much every single attempt to make soldiers out of women ended up in disaster. It's not just that they are physically, emotionally and mentally inferior to men, it's also that they turn what is a community of cooperation into a community of competition (for their attention).

And the less said about in theater pregnancies the better, or their lack of hygiene.


d6c103  No.15743326

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>>15742820

>Lord husband

This is why you shouldn't try to translate honorifics.

I still haven't read Majikoi, should I?


98ddad  No.15743343

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38e67e  No.15743346

>>15743298

If you want a personal anecdote, I'm a Europoor who had the misfortune of having a mixed platoon during basic training, and it went about as well as you would expect.

They always "twisted their ankles" or "couldn't breath" a few meters after we started marching/running, and we ended up having to carry their backpacks, lbes, rifles, and even them. It wasn't so much the additional weight that fucked with us, but the huge drain on morale it was, because we had guys puking their guts and having to continue to march while they kept getting away with malingering because the quotas had to be filled. During our first week out in the field none of them stayed with us the whole time, they started "getting sick" after the first night or so, and at the end when we marched back to the barracks none of them were still with us. I spied on them peeing though, so that was nice, hehehe.

Literally the only respite was them not getting awarded their berets at the end, which was a pretty based move from the company commander.


997565  No.15743350

>>15743326

Do read it, but don't go in thinking it's a masterpiece or anything. It's better than most trash that's put out in the VN industry, that's for sure.


46f7dc  No.15743356

>>15743298

>female officers in charge of the ship crashed the thing

It keeps happening >>>/k/624957


6d735d  No.15743358

File: 2b3f56de169a8b5⋯.jpg (150.07 KB, 438x625, 438:625, 4 (2).jpg)

>>15743326

>>15743350

>there's something wrong with being called lord husband

>It's better than most trash

Death's too good a fate for you.


9d3e68  No.15743371

File: e306f589a3b36d1⋯.gif (300.88 KB, 136x240, 17:30, CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLE….gif)

>>15743343

THE INDECENCY IS OFF THE CHARTS

MODS MODS MODS MODS MODS


cfd54c  No.15743372

>>15742930

The sex scenes with azumi were shit and that pisses me off


997565  No.15743385

>>15743358

I can't tell if you dislike the VN or the opposite


6d735d  No.15743403

>>15743385

Let's put it in clear terms, then. For that particular phrasing and comparison to trash I'd have you parted with your tongue only to have it salted and shoved up your ass. And your cock and balls would replace it after being rammed down your throat.

>>15743372

I don't suppose you've picked up any of the other A stories? Stacy might be more along the lines of what you're looking for.


cfd54c  No.15743413

>>15743403

Only a-1 and a-2 are translated.


e68eca  No.15743426

Mary Sues of any kind are unacceptable unless they are only a setup to them getting destroyed and humiliated thoroughly


997565  No.15743438

>>15743403

Takahiro is that you


330f06  No.15743452

File: 9d85393dec28b1c⋯.jpg (392.24 KB, 864x939, 288:313, 1310703513935.jpg)

>>15743343

this is hot as fuck


98ddad  No.15743479

File: a7c559c680c523a⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 199.98 KB, 800x600, 4:3, guishen_143902206_EV_065_0….jpg)

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>>15743452

Context is Yamato needs Benkei to back out of a fight, so it's get her drunk enough she sleeps the next day off or… have sex with her enough that she becomes exhausted.


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6d735d  No.15743488

File: 17e77a6b1065ccc⋯.jpg (254.7 KB, 800x1000, 4:5, r8uxdd58.jpg)

>>15743438

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.


885ef1  No.15743489

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>>15743326

Katawa Shoujou is better

t. played all the routes of Majikoi and Majikoi-S


997565  No.15743498

>>15743489

Now THIS is bait


8bd38e  No.15743499

>>15743346

Did they kick up a huge shitstorm about not getting their berets and the commander being a sexist, toxic pig?


618c9b  No.15743506

File: 0c3d433cd168f97⋯.gif (1.17 MB, 587x613, 587:613, 07361ead48bd4ba8524875620e….gif)

Neither is acceptable.

As an artist properly fill the role.

Someone who is a woman working as a blacksmith would likely, not find it of note to arbitrarily bring it up with a hero, nor would be physically inadequate.

Either is the result of failing to create the representation of said role, and therefore a failing of an artist.


885ef1  No.15743518

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>>15743498

<thing I dont like

>this is bait!


092808  No.15743523

File: 16d89da1b574565⋯.jpg (71.93 KB, 400x400, 1:1, 65fbaefee000cc78db4227e89e….jpg)

I dont mind cutes in heavy armor, as long as I like the design, game and there isn't personality to hate


330f06  No.15743528

>>15743523

>>15743520

most would agree that you can have female characters in male roles if the setting supports it and the character is likable, its all that matters really


618c9b  No.15743533

>>15742858

A "cute girl doing cute things" and a "passive aggressively written character" differ in that a cute girl doing cute things does things out of earnest appreciation ie: "Wheee! look mister! I made a sword!" a passive aggressive character would have likely been written on a whim, usually as a spite to something the author has overly projected onto a character ie: "This Sword is a euphemism for the male genitalia *Clang* take that men I Fattiffany Bitchpounds am truely the best writer ever"


38d13c  No.15743556

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>>15743343

>couldnt care less about sex scenes in VNs because they're a fucking bore to read alongside of mosaics censoring crap

>but innocent cute things like handholding and headpats make me hot on the inside


38e67e  No.15743589

>>15743499

Actually no, because none of them stayed in the battalion they did their basic training in (unlike most of the guys), and so would have had to get different berets depending on their new unit anyway.


e3ba5d  No.15743606

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File: 8ec2ed35003509e⋯.png (1 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Konachan.com - 202566 ange….png)

File: 73a3472bec3654a⋯.png (3.57 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, KE-Wallpaper6.png)

File: 48f00cbb3bb2710⋯.jpg (1005.25 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, yande.re 400410 armor duan….jpg)

>in your face strong wyming characters

All these characters will ever be are walking megaphones screaming "Women can do any job a man do but better!" instead of just showing it. Their whole character is just that they're strong and independent. They can never be entertaining either, just a one trick pony. People don't even give a shit that a female is strong but these days it's so blatant that it's just trying to push an agenda it's insulting. Because they're there just to push an agenda, nothing really ever happens to them. They can't be harmed that much, settle down after their conquest, or change their world view as the journey goes on.

>passive aggressive inclusive composition where people are perfectly casual about some chick with twigs for arms working as a blacksmith

This can be done in many ways but is usually not done in realistic settings. Battlefield 5 and Assassins Creed Origin pissed off many people like this because it tried to treat it as if men and women were equals in a society and time period when that was clearly the opposite. Meanwhile, in most JP games, they're just there to add in more cute girls. No ulterior motive behind it (besides selling goods but that's a business for you). They just know people in general like cute girls. Also these character's personalities can be all over the place. They're not just there to push an agenda so they can be much more flexible and actually have negative things happen to them. The writer is allowed to do whatever they want with that character.

Clearly the stonk womyn is worse.


6d735d  No.15744060

>>15743606

Alright, now for the sake of argument let's assume that some malicious agenda is not a factor. I know that's a swan song but let's try for a moment A strong character and not necessarily strong in a physical or power sense but by the sheer virtue of like you said, being well or at least adequately written will have the benefit to leave more of an impact then shoehorned quota fillers.

I mean, if it's about sending some inclusive, everyone can contribute message why not go with the less demeaning this is what happens when different people work together as opposed to you should conform to this because we're revising history. But I assume it's the same reason as to nigger should be at the table because he's a nigger and not because he brings anything of actual value to the said table.

>Assassins Creed Origin

I could image Egyptians letting their womenfolk fight for them. :^)


956b1a  No.15744215

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>>15742885

>Either is fine if done well and is appropriate to the games context

Too bad the in-your-face stronk wamyn character is never done well or appropriately to the game's context.

At least the female character in traditionally-male role has some hope of being more than RAAR GURL POWAAAA!!!!111


a3c873  No.15744237

Can I not just have a well built woman who's enthused about her blacksmith trade because she likes it and nothing more? Does she have to be a dick that has to rub it in everyone's faces? If she's a twig and starting out then I understand the criticism. And if there's a quest line to help her get better at the trade as growth of her character and reputation then I'm all for it. You can help her find her niche in the shop until she proves she can handle bigger jobs like engraving and stuff.

Between the two if done right the latter can work. Otherwise the former has more opportunity to be corrupted by cancer.


2998e5  No.15744254

Define "strong womyn". /v/ normally being /pol/ discussing video games, any women that is not in the kitchen or does not end up being raped for entering the battlefield would already count as a strong womyn.

Including old classics like Lara Croft or Kate Archer.


40b2ad  No.15744275

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>>15744215

>Too bad the in-your-face stronk wamyn character is never done well

>At least the female character in traditionally-male role has some hope of being more than

???


ae7edc  No.15744282

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5af17b  No.15744285

Female characters in general.


1921fb  No.15744289

>>15744237

>Can I not just have a well built woman who's enthused about her blacksmith trade because she likes it and nothing more?

Holy living fuck, this right here.

I just want to see fit girls who are fit because they really love sports, martial arts, or whatever, not because they're raging bulldykes. This never happens, though. Every time we get a fit girl, she's just a "man with tits" archetype that's either mostly ignored outside of showing what a badass she is or she's an outright insufferable cunt. This is probably why I live Real XXIII's girls so much. They're clearly athletic and love working out, but at the same time, they're shown doing typical girl things like holding stuffed animals or playing on the beach with friends.


14c3de  No.15744377

File: 9b082b7c267f358⋯.jpg (633.48 KB, 1400x939, 1400:939, 1399690219925.jpg)

>>15742820

The former is ok if it is being played for laughs, though I prefer not to have explicit politics in my games*. The latter is ok as long as the game isn't pretending to be serious, with a lot of MMO and high fantasy settings fitting this bill. If a game has specifically made levelling up / stats / whatever part of its world and everyone is superhuman then that's an example of where it's ok. Since the former acceptable situation is a lot more rare and relies on the undesirable feature of explicit politics even when being portrayed well, I'd say I find it worse. That said I'm not really a fan of either one.

*By explicit politics I mean where politics are being overlayed onto a game instead of built into it. Commentary on real-life events and ideology for example. This is a poor way to build a game, it's jarring and doesn't contribute to good worldbuilding. Implicit politics are much better. RTS games for example are implicitly right-wing because they're built on the premise of living in a world with limited resources and having to compete for those resources with hostile foreign races. If you played an RTS on leftist principles and let the enemy team's workers freely wander into your areas and harvest your resources, and somehow were able to spend research points on building up their tech tree instead of your own, then you would lose. An RTS doesn't have to make commentary in favour of right-wing principles to be political. It's built into the mechanics.


997565  No.15744387

File: 5b9b457273daccc⋯.jpg (1.3 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, estelle7.jpg)

>>15744285

Nothing wrong with them if they're done right.


ee61bf  No.15744402

>>15744289

I shit you not.

Rumble Roses has perfected the archetype of being a badass bitch just because she likes wrestling.

BUT NO ONE CARES CAUSE "LOL IT'S JUST A SEXY GAME FOR IMMATURE FAGGOTS."

It's not you fucks, it has an engaging story AND sexy girls. fuck you idiots.


dd36ad  No.15744415

>in your face strong wyming characters or passive aggressive inclusive composition where people are perfectly casual about some chick with twigs for arms working as a blacksmith?

depends if she's cute or not


e3ba5d  No.15744625

File: 4e7ed995085a049⋯.jpg (1.25 MB, 2591x3624, 2591:3624, yande.re 417740 admiral_(k….jpg)

>>15744060

That has worked many times before. It's just that it was a person made to be an actual character, not an agenda pushing mouth piece. The main problem with these feminists characters is that they can't have flaws, or else women as a whole will look bad. They will have nothing actually happen to them the whole story and that's plain boring. That's why these characters are always forgotten and left behind.


c70e0e  No.15744690

>>15742820

Intent and presentation are important in either situation. If the twig armed girl is a silly animu loli in a silly animu game, and the protag also happens to be a twig-armed bishounen wielding a sword larger than he is, then whatever. However, if the blacksmith girl is a teenaged snarky nigger who has no place being in the setting and who only exists as a possible insert of the creator's nigger twitter friend, then that shit can fuck off.


e9d4b9  No.15744733

>>15742820

Stronk wymin because they tend to be ugly as sin, have some weird ass skin color (like a mix of black and red, it makes them look perpetually dirty), often be put in places they don't belong (a 20 year old goblina being the leader of the navy seals?) and be arrogant and foul mouthed, i can totally dig a cute short girl being a blacksmith/weaponsmith, or a curvaceous woman being another soldier, because as long as they behave like proper women it makes my dick hard.

For examples see all the women soldiers in valkyria chronicles and raven from rune factory 3.


f16269  No.15744745

I don't separate those two things and file them under the same retardation.


c57bfe  No.15744851

>>15743298

>Crashing in the sea

You're pretending that men never crash ships. And that was just one time.


a8b2c6  No.15744859

>>15744625

She really doesn't like her belly rubbed.


c8faec  No.15744929

File: 4b591d50c40a448⋯.png (15.21 KB, 232x265, 232:265, me autistic screeching.png)

>want games to accurately represent the differences in abilities of men and women, and promote healthy traditional gender roles

>but also want to play as a cute girl adventurer saving the world in a frilly skirt

what do


6ebb97  No.15745025

>>15744929

Have you considered becoming a healslut?


d21a19  No.15745028

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15743298

>the two female officers in charge of the ship crashed the thing, while in the open sea, because they refused to talk to each other.

>crashed

>open sea

What the fuck did they hit out on the big blue wet thing? Even the Titanic had multiple reasons for hitting a fucking iceberg.

>>15743356

>>>/k/624957

>All those sliding tables

Reminds me of the Daisy Cruiser stage from MK:DD/MK7, this could make good backing music for that silent webm.


ee9d36  No.15745043

>>15744929

>accurately represent

shut up faggot


9d3e68  No.15745065

>>15744929

Play a loli wizard/sorcerer


2b6fbe  No.15745074

>>15744929

>but also want to play as a cute girl adventurer saving the world in a frilly skirt

Why would you? Are you a fag?


38e67e  No.15745079


997565  No.15745090

>>15745074

Are you?


2b6fbe  No.15745091

>>15745079

>>>/faggot/


9d3e68  No.15745112

File: 86c7088f5f3fb46⋯.jpg (973.4 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, anime under blanket 2.jpg)

>>15745074

>Not wanting to be a cute girl wearing a frilly dress

Wow, quit being a gay anytime


d6c103  No.15745240

>>15745074

>Self-inserting as the girl

You don't get it. You don't play as the little girl to be one, you play as the little girl to guide and protect her as a father figure.

It takes the truest of men to play as a cute girl.


997565  No.15745248

File: c0e2c4cbe124e41⋯.png (197.9 KB, 546x546, 1:1, 1418748163847.png)

>>15745240

You are my brother.


885ef1  No.15745257

File: b080f09708d4ed1⋯.png (470.5 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, b080f09708d4ed143c2f928aba….png)

>>15745240

I never thought of it that way, but it makes a whole lot of sense, now that I think of it.


2b6fbe  No.15745311

>>15745240

that's even more cringe. fuck you.


997565  No.15745320

File: 373c6d1c4ab1d40⋯.jpg (24.36 KB, 308x302, 154:151, 373c6d1c4ab1d40f011d104f7d….jpg)

>>15745311

>cringe


2e0ba6  No.15745417

>>15742920

>tree-hugging emasculate faggot

>blows shit the fuck up

>impregnated a valkyria and manage to protect her smile

did we played the same game?


dac70b  No.15745427

>>15745112

Anon, you can kick the autogynophelia. All you gotta do is try with an ounce of your being not to be a total fucking faggot for once in your pathetic life.


330f06  No.15745434

>>15742920

> but Welkin is a tremendous tree-hugging emasculate faggot

>through display of prowess he forces his subordinates to stay the fuck in line and get over their differences to succeed in battle

>despite being in a militia in a bumblefuck country manages to turn the tide of the war

>fucks a valkyria and creates ubermensch babies

>kills hundreds of people with his daddies tank

get the fuck outta here with welkin shit talk


e88bba  No.15745457

>>15745434

>>15745417

Are you faggots completely unable to notice his personality just because he's the player character and thus bound to be successful?


330f06  No.15745466

>>15745457

his personality isn't even bad and its what makes valkyria stronger as a title because he isn't just a self insert for the player. Yeah he's autismo as fuck but those quirks make him more fun than most protags


2e0ba6  No.15745488

>>15745457

>his personality

>likes biology

>has autisum

i dont see anything bad here


a3c873  No.15745494

So we're only allowed to play buff dudes who kill everything that don't fraid of anything? It's like RPGs are dead or something.


14d551  No.15745515

File: 7d912c35841034f⋯.webm (1.04 MB, 640x480, 4:3, Katawer Tojo.webm)

all i can say is that games whit Strong wimyn at least seems to have better gameplay.


dac70b  No.15745773

>>15745515

Is this edited or is AVGN still going strong? Please be option B


5a6321  No.15745783

File: 620f2fa9b5ed225⋯.jpg (205.73 KB, 746x439, 746:439, lady boner 836450.jpg)

>>15742820

>chick with twigs for arms working as a blacksmith?

If it's loli, then sure.


5a6321  No.15745816

>>15744851

Suuure, but those men get fucking keelhauled and fucked in the ass for being incompetent. The women essentially walk away scot free.


d6c103  No.15745830

File: 9612109881d848c⋯.png (403.02 KB, 1090x2288, 545:1144, shill.png)

File: f90f7b09899efcd⋯.jpg (115.39 KB, 600x811, 600:811, EOX-Shilleka.jpg)

File: 1d39e6b029c12ae⋯.jpg (133.8 KB, 600x557, 600:557, 1466319836.jpg)

>>15745783

Shillkea superior. Though for some reason X gave her giant tits.


dac70b  No.15745900

>>15745785

I don't into VNs and I haven't watched AVGN in years. plz no bully


cc6d62  No.15745946

>>15745900

It's an edit. Notice the 3DO controller, it's from the Plumbers Don't Wear Ties video. It's one of the best episodes, mainly because the "game" in question is just so goddamn fucking weird.


dac70b  No.15746011

File: 0bf098d08e2b002⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 84.11 KB, 899x1200, 899:1200, 0244d58ee2cf1b62ff652a32da….jpg)

>>15745946

Thanks for spoonfeeding, Anon


e72b01  No.15746040

>>15742820

Women should be breeders and houswifes and nothing else. Anything else is feminazi propaganda. Metroid was the most feminist game in history and so was Phantasy Star. Absolutely disgusting.


cc6d62  No.15746056

>>15746011

No prob. And for the record, AVGN is indeed still going. And even though sometimes some 'meh' episodes come up, the latest pair was particularly good, especially the RE Survivor one. He still has the knack, even after 10+ years of the series.


f51005  No.15746101

File: 4b2d919eb78e2e8⋯.png (613.77 KB, 1078x1078, 1:1, e72b01 containment facilit….png)

File: 52b0671361e0ef9⋯.webm (9.29 MB, 480x360, 4:3, AVGN Reviews the Touhou S….webm)

>>15746040

>>15745946

There's a Touhou x Silver Surfer one too.


2e0ba6  No.15746104

>>15745830

2020 Olympics


1c7910  No.15746121

File: c4644e32a485f96⋯.jpg (547.47 KB, 1873x2560, 1873:2560, 1348083734161.jpg)

Any instance of women doing the work of men, whilst not looking hot and/or cute whilst doing so, is an abomination.


9023f0  No.15746155

>>15746121

Why this shit never got a second season I will never understand.


1c7910  No.15746183

File: 603d114d57b21c1⋯.png (405.31 KB, 463x537, 463:537, 1448056416222.png)

>>15746155

Because Madhouse doesn't make second seasons of anything.


f51005  No.15746220

>>15746185

>when you focus on details like that instead of that partly exposed V-shaped mound and see-through shirt

>>15746155

Anime is too busy giving it to trash like Grancrest Senki.


88f3d0  No.15746456

>>15742964

>In an apocalyptic scenario where you don't have enough manforce - women don't have the luxury of staying home babysitting n'shiet.

In an apocalyptic scenario any rational man would reduce women to baby factory livestock. Their wombs are too valuable to allow their support units to go off and get shot.


f51005  No.15746464

File: 7d1b56579fb97fb⋯.jpg (65.43 KB, 785x563, 785:563, 7d1b56579fb97fbd4a114565e5….jpg)

>>15746456

This conversation's stupid and tedious, play some games.


80e032  No.15746475

>>15744387

Doing them right is easy. Just don't include them.


46f7dc  No.15746647

>>15745028

>What the fuck did they hit out on the big blue wet thing?

I think he is talking about that yank ship that turned straight into the path of a merchant vessel that resulted in a casualty.

The merchant vessel was unharmed.


5a6321  No.15746656

>>15742964

>In an apocalyptic scenario where you don't have enough manforce - women don't have the luxury of staying home babysitting n'shiet.

It's literally what they would do. Following ww2 a lot of countries needed to repopulate, so they'd put measures in place to incentivize just that.

In my country they made huge tax incentives for example, which were commonly referred to as "woman killing law" in my native tongue because of how many children the women were expected to pop out.


0d5a91  No.15746697

File: 4f35792ad2993a1⋯.jpg (85.9 KB, 540x720, 3:4, cat disgust.jpg)

>>15742897

>anything goes for raiders

No, they'd rape any women and have no use for them outside of immediate pleasure because they're psychopaths who only understand strength. Female raiders is immersion breaking.


0d5a91  No.15746706

File: 1c4fac2271407de⋯.png (117.66 KB, 400x401, 400:401, look into this.png)

>>15745240

Nah man, you're living vicariously as a little girl.

Traps ARE gay, anon.


0d5a91  No.15746724

>>15746720

Men wouldn't put up with that shit, and the women wouldn't last for very long in fights regardless.

Your raider gf fantasy will never be true


647a45  No.15746726

File: ea581f9e054495e⋯.png (178.13 KB, 500x442, 250:221, 55.png)

File: dfc107fcb54869b⋯.png (1.01 MB, 769x1151, 769:1151, 66.png)


f51005  No.15746738

File: 992510e12a914d9⋯.png (21.8 KB, 547x239, 547:239, TAGS.png)

File: c17441d3e3b3187⋯.jpg (298.54 KB, 1045x1500, 209:300, (C89) [Tamarun (Tamarun)] ….jpg)

>>15746726

nothankyou.jpg

>>15746647

>merchant unharmed


e88bba  No.15746743

>>15746731

If you aren't completely full of shit, would you care to list the presumably numerous gangs of raider women that have existed in reality? Because it sounds like you're just making shit up and trying to use mental gymnastics to defend it. All it would take is a lack of a stable society to create these raider-like groups, so there must be tons of such groups with crazy warrior women throughout history and even in some areas today, right?


649a50  No.15746751

>>15744929

Who cares, videogames are just supposed to be fun and enjoyable


0d5a91  No.15746762

>>15746750

They're called militias and gangs retard. Both of which are in abundance right now in various parts of the world.


0d5a91  No.15746776

File: aa5312627488a7f⋯.jpg (214.14 KB, 640x480, 4:3, dce86ead3621b9490bd7746cb0….jpg)

>>15746767

>power fantasies.

You're the one saying blood thirsty rapists and masochists will have egalitarian gangs and have no semblance to actual gangs, militias or otherwise. You're the one who's gotta take the L, fag. In the wasteland, might makes right, and women don't have it.


e88bba  No.15746781

>>15746767

I said "throughout history". And also "even in some areas today". You conveniently ignored both. Can you list some examples or can you just pathetically try to talk shit?


e88bba  No.15746821

>>15746815

Are you going to post the examples? I've been waiting. By the way, I'm not the other guy you're arguing with as you seemed to think.

If the retardation that you're trying to pass off as reality isn't just bullshit, where are the examples?


0d5a91  No.15746826

File: 21298791de5afdf⋯.png (105.76 KB, 430x273, 430:273, tumblr_mu4it9FrAu1rw3ytlo1….png)

>>15746815

Why would I waste my time arguing when you wrote an absolute train wreck of a post like this: >>15746799


457795  No.15746827

>>15742820

in your face strong trap would be pretty cool tbh


e88bba  No.15746832

>>15746831

My argument has always been "if what you claim to be true is true, then you must have examples to prove it". You're making an insane claim with zero examples to back it, beyond some vague as hell "I have life experiences". List some of these egalitarian raider groups that you claim are possible.


997565  No.15747287

File: 50b5475e30eade1⋯.png (121.85 KB, 326x418, 163:209, 3ae790a0100778519c6fe1e0c2….png)

>>15746726

>giving her giant tits and an ass are upgrades


4cbc40  No.15747307

>>15742920

He kills people efficiently, he has high status, his sister loves him, he's pretty, will do anything to protect her smile.


9e6173  No.15747312

File: 8c0a883b05e36a9⋯.jpg (152.05 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, improved_megumin.jpg)


d3f7c3  No.15747382

File: 0ce103a05bbacf6⋯.webm (1.84 MB, 960x720, 4:3, wait_a_minute.webm)

File: 5218a4b110ea772⋯.jpg (100.32 KB, 795x941, 795:941, 1542133995749.jpg)

File: a3014eb32f2b456⋯.png (4.94 MB, 1900x1280, 95:64, ded.png)

>>15746799

>gender wouldn't matter in the post-apocalypse

>implying women have the same muscle mass as men

>implying women have the same capability to track small moving objects at a distance against a dark/poorly contrasted background as men

>implying women have the same raw reaction times as men

>implying women will stop menstruating

>implying women will act upon logic and reasoning in tense combat situations


d3f7c3  No.15747396

>>15747387

Norwegian frigate with a female majority crew that sank after ramming a cargo ship.


3e3d26  No.15747397

>>15747387

I don't speak whatever language that is, some scandi tongue but it seems like they were celebrating some woman navigator for a navy vessel in the article, the picture is said ship after having sunk, I guess due to a blunder she made as the navigator.


d6c103  No.15747546

File: a2c408cd6268aad⋯.jpg (50.95 KB, 600x693, 200:231, 1470673247.jpg)

>>15747312

>Titmole

Too far.


9e6173  No.15747550

File: 0382841bb8dbd58⋯.jpg (51.31 KB, 960x540, 16:9, perfected_megumin.jpg)

>>15747546

>hating moles

The pleb is you anon.


0cafa9  No.15747568

>>15742858

The difference here is "cute". Ubishit and other AAA studios have design teams run by feminists.

>>15747311

Loli and ara taste best taste.


46f7dc  No.15747577

File: 65d67adaa42d9b0⋯.jpg (171.02 KB, 1277x879, 1277:879, 28113f8efaaaefb3cf60678857….jpg)

>>15747387

Female drivers.

Red is the destroyer >>>/k/624629


0c09df  No.15747581

>>15747550

We can go

DEEPER


ebd996  No.15747600

File: 17d025a09c73cd6⋯.jpg (82.2 KB, 726x669, 242:223, trashbag.jpg)

>>15747563

>>15747382

>>15747577

That ship was designed by men and therefore it was a sexist vessel, it's no wonder those entirely capable seawymon sank, they were being sexually harassed by the ship every second they were on it. Sinking that misogynist craft was their duty, well done grrrls.


0c09df  No.15747634

>>15747589

>>15747600

Experiencing difficulties browsing this website, lad?


cb155a  No.15747641

File: d6c469ab9d80e21⋯.png (1.33 MB, 837x1150, 837:1150, 38-page_46.png)

File: 0b63297347a69ac⋯.jpg (43.76 KB, 711x890, 711:890, 29b6a67dae3bef0de15df7f20c….jpg)

>>15742820

I liked Wild arms 3 where the best mage is a big burly Indian dude. I dislike the trope of giving a teenage girl a staff or something similar and making her the best mage in the game, rather than some big, tough mountain of a man, with a body suited to resist the awesome arcane powers of magic.


e3ba5d  No.15747930

File: 0fc37ae602bb317⋯.png (576.16 KB, 797x1070, 797:1070, 58272530_p0.png)

>>15746831

>>15746799

They're not taking you seriously because what you said was absolutely retarded. Despite what feminists and blueballed men will tell you, it's common knowledge and easily observable that women are inferior to men and rely on men to care for them. Its been like this for forever. If women get into combat roles and live like men, they also lose their fertility which makes them much less useful. Especially when a man can perform combat roles much better than them because they are bigger, stronger, smarter, have better reaction times, and handle stress better. When in history have women ever ruled over men thanks to their pure dominance and not simply heredity? How many times in history have you heard a group of female warriors killing a bunch of men and taking their territories?

You even mentioned how everyone was basically farmers or gatherers but you immediately ignored who the hunters and protectors are. It has always been men. When warlords raze a village and kill all the men, do the women die by their husband or go with the guy that killed their family in children to live? They would definitely abandon their family to not die while most men would die protecting their family. That is just how we're wired as each sex does their best to survive.

In any situation where the government/city can't protect women, men will be the ones who does so. It's just like how in Europe right now. Women in droves were glad to have immigrants flood into their country to absorb those progressive social brownie points. Now that the streets aren't safe to walk through and grooming gangs are increasing in numbers. Who goes out into the streets to remove these people? The men do it, not the women. It's not like men today are all pussies but the laws hold them back from doing the things they want. Now that the law no longer protects the citizens because the police are afraid of the migrants (or they're punished for arresting them), the citizens will take up arms themselves to protect their loved ones. And again, it will the men that do it.


885ef1  No.15747934

>>15747641

Muscles won't protect you from a bullet. Similarly, muscles won't protect you from magic.

You either focus on strengthening your mind or your body, you can't be a master of both.


3066e6  No.15747961

>>15746738

why would you do that man, I'm so disappointed now.


e3ba5d  No.15748567

File: 2af0e0b4d7f1ec4⋯.jpg (1.13 MB, 1254x1771, 114:161, 71501196_p0.jpg)

>>15748513

>Pretending to be too retarded read 3 paragraphs because you have no argument.

What a shame.


37e8fc  No.15748623

File: 63ca2f784f87c5d⋯.png (533.77 KB, 850x805, 170:161, serveimage.png)

File: ca2d11ba5e062f3⋯.jpg (243.26 KB, 800x440, 20:11, serveimage_2.jpg)

Hot take: Tomboys and strong women are the best because their feminine side is more genuine compared to other girls who put up a pleasant facade. Only in 2D anime form, of course, but that should go without saying.

Most examples of bitchy strong independent womyn are in games with shit gameplay in the first place so no loss there. The "passive aggressive" approach is worse because it can be sneaked into an otherwise good game, like if some lines of dialogue are changed in localization.

>passive aggressive inclusive composition where people are perfectly casual about some chick with twigs for arms working as a blacksmith?

I don't think that's a very good example, it could just be played for laughs, same with overly gay and fruity characters in Jap games.

>>15747934

Being /fit/ gives you more stamina and energy in your daily life, and why not master body and mind? See pics. I notice all the examples I can think of for spellcasters who are also physically tough are villains, probably because it implies a lot of raw power.


997565  No.15748637

>>15748597

>everybody I don't like is a virgin

>uses terms like "tbh"

>hates waifufags

You don't belong here.


5362bd  No.15748668

>>15748637

maybe it's a hole


997565  No.15748683

>>15748652

Why does being a fucking virgin matter? How would fucking some random whore just to say you weren't a virgin further your knowledge of ANYTHING. You're just a fucking idiot, admit it.


ae7edc  No.15748685

>>15748652

>muh virgins

Back to Facebook with you.


21441b  No.15748718

>>15748652

>shaming people by calling them virgins

>on fucking /v/ of all places

Maybe facebook would be better for you.


d6c103  No.15748753

>>15748652

Confirmed normalfag, go back to where you came from.


e3ba5d  No.15748764

File: 934a8527257a767⋯.jpg (1.33 MB, 1377x2729, 1377:2729, 381ffc12bf99cf601b9e2be866….jpg)

>>15748597

So you don't deny that you were pretending to be retarded. And you still haven't provided any proof denying what I've said that easily proved you wrong. Using the woman's way of arguing by trying to shame the people you disagree with, via name calling, really explains why anime girls offend you. Even more, you still don't have an argument for what I said. Now you're hoping to derail the conversation because you have no ammo left.

Go back to Facebook if this is all you have. Maybe it will work on people there.


959b40  No.15748795

>>15748637

>Muh women raiders are so realistic

>Can't even name a single example and resorts to butthurt shitposting

What gave you the hint?

Anyways, in most games I've played the latter isn't taken very seriously. So it would be easy to say the strong woman character but it ultimately just depends on the writing. Both could potentially be done well, but the western AAA/indie scene shows the worst possible way to incorporate those types of characters.


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Do you mean powerful female characters in general or "empowered female characters" ?

If it's the former, it really depends on how it is handled.

If it's the latter, there is no hope and whatever passes for a "female" in that game is bound to be awful.

I don't have a problem with seeing a young, slim girl defeats deities if she has magic powers and her character is tastefully handled, but if she is a butch dyke solely there to show how "GIRLS CAN KILL GODS TOO" with nothing but power of her screeching and women's studies degree, then I'm not even going to bother.

A terrible female character is going to be just that no matter how she is presented.


9c6edd  No.15750382

>Posts removed

Now I know nobody here has an argument, just anime avatars and whining, but it's funny how butthurt these people are about the whole thing

>>15748623

>Tomboys

My nigga


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>>15748623

>hot take

perfectly reasonable take to me


1334ea  No.15751791

>>15743479

boner killed


6a9470  No.15751841

>>15745773

AVGN is still going strong, though the most recent video he made was on Super and Virtual Hydlide.




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