/v/ - Video Games

fuck off GW

Havent played it yet, is it fun?

>>15737086

GW doesnt handle vidya, they just give the license.

>Tfw no game where you shitpost around as an ork

>tfw no kuraayyzee game featuring Kharn the Betrayer made by Platinum

>tfw no Commarah racing game

>tfw no Dark Angel game where you go around finding fallen

>expect shit tier reception

>98% on steam

I'm curious if it's actually good or if it's just above average being well received because it's 40k.

I've been playing Space Marine and I think I'll be dropping it soon. I really liked the jump pack but then the next chapter yanked it out of my hands, and the bolter and chainsword just don't feel good to use.

>>15737105

I swear if those fucks over at Monolith had half a brain cell they'd be making a third Mordor game except you're playing one of the Orcs instead of some faggy OC donut steel and lore rape.

>>15737121

i really liked space marine

>>15737097

Fuck off [Shitty British Game Company]

Does it look like it has any mod support?

Playing it a little bit, its pretty fun. Dungeon-crawlerish with turn based combat and such. Feels good running a techpriest to the other side of the battlemap on the prayers of his buddies to chop a necron in half tho.

>no magnet link

fuck off shill

>>15737237

ok let me get your malware link

>>15737520

I don't think it's garbage, I just think it needed to focus more on the actual meat and less on trying to wow you with visuals, it might be hindsight of playing a relatively old game(as in seven years after it's release where every game has to be bombastic to the max) but I'm simply not impressed post the first time I saw Titus chokeslam and orc and curbstomp him. The jumppack almost made it worth it but then chapter 3 took it away.

>>15737569

uDraw killed THQ and which in-turn killed all the studios that they ever owned .

>>15737569

Haven't gotten far so no idea on the enemy variety or IG womyn, but I do agree it's generic and almost barely slightly above average. And the intro pretty much took out any Grimdark it might have had.

So Titus doesn't pull a Space Wolf and bone the Mira?

i got a code for it for steam for buying some new necron stuff off the online store. How is it?

>>15737569

>Stronk independent IG woman

I would have a massive gripe with that if it wasn't 40k. The Imperium cannot treat wamenses like special snowflakes, so they have to work for it.

In 40k, you end up stronk, or you end up dead. Just imagine how Catachan wamens are.

>>15737569

>getting muttbad at a woman doing her duty as a citizen of the empire of mankind.

Smells like Tau in here lads.

>>15737639

Scenegames has a magnet. Here you go, but usually my experience with their P2Ps has been one of slow 200kb/s downloads.

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0bd15c160e93efd6b055b2225f8e80dfc8ad228d&dn=Warhammer.40000.Mechanicus-CODEX&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zer0day.to%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fcoppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce

tfw seems like the recs are too much for my toaster

>>15737650

There's a direct download too, if you want to give that ago. Again in the interest of speed I link the google drive one.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15wbZJ5ew7S2hF7tu8_yF9HMGC50xbgEb/view

>>15737649

>autismlord doesn't understand what FANTASY is

>news at 11

>>15737658

I trust magnets more. I'm more of a gearhead than a techie but I've heard that magnets have inherent countermeasures against - excuse my french - 'problematic' installations.

>>15737568

>40k discussion is Cuckchan

>anything I don’t like is Cuckchan.

>>15737791

Does it have the "every map is the same" problem as Invisible Inc?

>>15737897

I havent really played much of it yet, but the maps have been pretty varied so far.

>>15737801

This. If it does not, then it's already superior to nuCOM 2, though that's a very low bar to clear.

The no RNG part sounds baller though.

Should I bother with Dawn of War 2 for singleplayer or is Dark Crusade as good as it ever got?

>>15738123

Sounds need. I'll give it a few weeks for launch updates then I'll pirate it, thanks anon.

>>15738135

The single player campaign in DoW 2 is the best thing of those games, that style of gameplay works out nicely with factions that du use limited number of people like spess muhreens, eldar or necrons.

>>15738151

Soulstorm with the Ultimate Apocalypse mod

>>15738247

That has a single player campaign now?

>>15738234

I'd like to know if it's all an easy steamroll or if it's going to make me pay for every inch of ground like Winter Assault or some of the DC stronghold missions.

>>15738273

Nah, only winter assault could give that feeling since it was a campaign made for the imperial guard, the campaign in DoW2 is more alike spec-ops tactics with lots of blowing up things that are critical to other things or kill synapse creatures.

>>15738300

So you play as storm troopers in the IG campaigns?

What about difficulty, is it easy or hard or what?

>>15738309

Theres no IG campaign until the last expansion, wich is pretty meh because you cant use huge fuck off armies the IG is supposed to be fielding.

>>15738319

IG campaign can be bent by the spine rather easily, inquisitorial stormtrooper spam with meltas, meltaguns will just fuck over a majority of things you face.

>>15738319

Is there an Orkz campaign at least or does it have the same not enough huge fuck off armies?

Can you play as Nids? Are they also not huge fuckoff armies?

>>15738380

How many threads must you derail with your autism?

Every singlefuckign time i swear, you obviusly do not even like 40k since you only come to these threads to throw shit everywhere, hide it and fuck off already.

>>15738430

Ork campaign yes, nid campaign no.

Again, no huge armies in DoW 2.

>>15738440

>no nids

Should I even bother or is playing as Spess muhrines fun?

>>15738492

Yes, playing as the marines in 2 is fun, feels much more space mariner than in 1.

>>15738234

The vanilla campaign of DoW2 is extremely monotonous. It's the Call of Duty of RTSes, because the maps are literally all hallways. Play Chaos Rising and save yourself the crappy levels. Retribution sucks just as bad.

But DoW2 has a nid campaign. At least in Retribution.

>>15738440

>no nids campaign

Except that's wrong, Retribution has a campaign.

>>15738504

> Retribution sucks just as bad.

Pretty fucking audacious that they claimed to have a campaign for each race when it's literally the exact same maps for each one.

>>15738513

I honestly forgot about it

>>15738504

Chaos rising>vanilla>retribution

I still had a lot of fun with the vanilla campaign.

Cool, thanks for saving me the bandwidth from downloading both the gold edition and retribution.

Need I ask about 3 or should I just write it off as 100% shit?

>>15738524

I got through it the first time because I was still jizzing over the voice acting (even 3 has good VA work, but that game is just too atrocious to play) but I can't play vanilla again. You're right though, Retribution is probably worse just because it's all the monotonous levels of the vanilla campaign with a less cohesive story and structure.

>>15738537

It's a bad Starcraft clone with obnoxious elite unit/Hero unit micromanagement, steer clear. Again, I'm sad because the unit dialogue is top tier, even Orks are even better than they were before.

>>15737811

No but (You) are cuckch

>>15738250

https://www.moddb.com/games/dawn-of-war/addons/kaurava-campaign-for-ultimate-apocalypse

>>15737658

It got blocked for too many downloads. Can you reup? I don't mind if its vola or something, speed isn't an issue for me.

>>15738490

>>15737574

Been playing Deathwing's SE a fair deal lately.

>>15738123

No cover? But I'm hearing good things. The combat areas appear really small as well and without much variety. Yet it has people talking positively about it. I'm a tad confused, but also intrigued.

>>15737105

>>15738490

I want a WH40K stealth infiltration game in hte midst of an Ork uprising on a jungle planet… that has you playing as Ork Kommandoz.

Am I the only one, also, still playing Inquisitor Martyr from time to time?

>tfw no 40k dating detective VN

>>15739179

So you date an arbites?

>>15738513

like a textured play mat for a 3 year old. needed moar grimdark I'm eating your world.

>>15737074

impulse bought it atr impulse buying the space hulk tactics to pl;ay as genestealer. need necrons mod for this.

>>15739179

>long drawn out dating sim where you try to seduce a tau, a sister of battle, or a space knife ear.

>end screen reveals this was just what the nids gave your brain to do while it digested you.

>>15739231

have to have a scene where the kommadoz rule some pretentious human commandos.

>>15737105

>TFW no game where you play as a planetary governor and try to keep whatever planet you're given charge of from falling to pieces

>>15739295

Question:

Why do you want women to be stronger than you are?

>>15739336

Let me guess, you think watching porn makes you a cuck.

>>15739345

Are you done shitting up the thread because you can't separate reality from fiction?

>>15739336

Why can you not fathom the idea of there being physically capable women in a far future scenario wherein the whole of humanity is in a committed state of total war, and the population so massive that wave tactics are considered viable.

>>15739389

1. Elves, Orks, and Space Marines won't magically pop into existence in 30.000 years

2. It's fiction

3. Wave tactics have been a thing in Warhammer 40k for years now, and once again, it's fiction

But riddle me this, why can't you separate reality from fiction?

>>15739389

1. Magic exists in 40k

2. Manpower is the one resource humanity will never run out of

3.Wave tactics are used all the time by the guard, to great effect, because they're not always fighting humans with guns

>>15739420

A Guard special Character, Chenkov, was famous because he used nothing but human wave tactics. You do realized that 40k isn't in any way representative of reality, right?

>>15739364

Not to mention that said woman comes from a planet where children are trained from birth to be soldiers

>>15739389

>Tactical sense

>40k

Son, you realize that the point of the Imperium is that shit is so fucked that they rely on human wave tactics, using women as soldiers because they need every warm body they can to hold off the homicidal mushroom chavs, spiky Space Marines, Space elves both regular and emo, ancient killer robots, and omnicidal cockroaches that threaten the imperium on a daily basis. If all you need is a body to hold a lasgun, fire it a few times, hopefully kill at least one enemy, and then die for the Emperor, then what does sex matter?

>>15739420

I was writing a nice retort, but you're fucking retarded and trying to apply your research and our own history to the same universe with giant 100-story tall mechas, and knights carrying sonic guitars.

What the fuck are you even doing in this thread, do you have any idea as to what Warhammer40k is outside of it being sometimes used by /pol/ in memes?

>>15739478

Kriegers don't employ wave tactics because they're deployed for battles of attrition. That's literally their whole thing; digging in, and blowing the fuck out of the enemy for months at a time. They're just very willing to die in the process of this.

>>15738792

Sorry my friend, Bandwidth is an issue for me and I don't have it yet I really hope DoW2 is worth it

You can try the magnet link two posts above it.

>>15739527

>So what regiment specializes in wave tactics?

Didn't the other anon already mention one, or were you just not paying attention and sperging out instead?

Valhallan Ice Warriors, under Commander Chenkov.

>>15739550

Play Dawn of War with me, Anon. Happy Birthday.

>>15739543

If line tactics with charges count as human wave, then mordians do too, as do steel legionaries when they throw massed chimeras with leman russ support at the enemy.

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Jauntin commander in the first Gaunt book use wave tactics? I mean they didn't zerg rush and I remember them being described as using some pretty sick suppressive fire tactics but still I think I recall their commander or general or whatever did not give a shit about causalities as long as they eventually beat the opposition.

>>15739478

>Are the human women in 40k magical?

Yes, as are all humans.

>Where in the lore does it say they are any different from the women of the 21st century?

Right around the part where they talk about Battle Nuns that kill demons by believing in the Emperor harder than anyone else.

>They're stronger and fitter than their counterparts in the past, mostly due to better nutrition and awareness of the benefits of exercise. They are still shit at any and all physical activities.

By that logic wouldn't women 38,000 years removed from us be even stronger?

>You need to get up-to-date with your reading. See Dark Imperium.

The Imperium being rent in two doesn't change the fact that they have planets where an individual city can have ten billion inhabitants, with multiple such cities covering the whole surface. One of the fundamental truths of the setting is that the Imperium will run out of guns long before they run out of bodies. The men are replaceable, the equipment is not.

>1. shipping said manpower where you need them to takes time, effort and resources; the Warp is treacherous and timetables are vague at best, and that's excluding enemy interference

That's why they ship multiple regiments of millions of soldiers at a time; no matter what happens, a significant amount of bodies will reach their destination.

>2. what this means for commanders on the ground is that they are never sure when they'll get the next batch of reinforcements, if ever, so the troops they have need to be used wisely, and more importantly, the troops they get need to be the best they can get, meaning no women

Sororitas are welcomed onto the battle by literally every Imperial Commander, such is their worth. The only thing that matters is willingness to die for the Emperor. That's the point.

>>15739558

Chenkov would literally charge his men into minefields to clear them and have them assault fortified gun nests as a distraction. Valhallans are the epitome of human wave doctrine, and it sweeps the fucking field because nothing can stop ten million angry guardsmen.

Please stop giving the retard attention

>>15739583

Unlike you, you autist, we're talking about every instance of Commanders sending their men against the enemy non-stop with or without artillery cover and with or without mechanical support.

>Because these women are just men with tits

Yes, that's what they are. They're just more meat for the grinder, you mongoloid. They die like everyone else.

>>15739128

>Inquisitor Martyr

>Seems golden

Why does it have Mixed reviews on (((Steam)))?

>>15739622

Because they're men with tits. Do you think the average Imperial Guard recruiter cares what you have in your pants as long as you can march and carry a lasgun?

>>15739637

It's a diablo-like and that's really all I can tell you about it. I actually am curious as you are.

>>15739622

Not once in this thread has any of your autistic screeching been about anything other then bitching about the fact that women fight just like men and that wave tactics are used, just fuck off already you massive waste of flesh, it's obvious that you don't give two shits about Warhammer.

>>15739637

>>15739650

The game basically plays like their other diablo clones like Van Helsing. I've found them to be kind of meh but if you like 40k or their other games you could probably get over some of the tedium.

>>15739665

My argument is that you need to fuck off and stop derailing the thread.

>>15739389

Eh in theory you're wrong since 70,000 years gave us abos

>>15739679

Fuck off derailer.

>>15739679

Autistically focusing on the fact that women are used as soldier in the sci-fi fantasy series with Elves, Orks, dwarfs, and magitech terminators is not pointing out plot holes. It’s just pedantically picking at one minuscule part of the series lore. Never in any codex, campaign book, or black library novel do GW make a note of how exemplary female guardsmen are, they are merely part of the faceless tide that holds the enemies of the Imperium at bay. Saying GW is feminist is laughable, because their poster child faction for 40k is the Space Marines, who by nature of their creation, are all male. It’s the rough equivalent of CWC sperging out because Sonic’s arms are blue.

This will be the last (you) I’m giving away, as you have proven to be disingenuous in your arguments and will sooner attack your opponents rather than concede points. Your only argument is “women shouldn’t exist at all in this series and anyone who disagrees is a feminist SJW soyboy” and that is the argument you have deployed in almost every post you have made.

>>15739520

The magnet worked and I am able to play the game but not for long. At seemingly random points it crashes and I am forced to ctrl-alt-del. Anyone know why this might be? I tried at different resolutions but to no avail. Is it because I disabled bloom and other useless shit like motion blur?

>>15739627

thats cute

Is Chaos really that bad, fellow imperial citizens?

Which of the HH books are worth reading? Are any of the ravenguard ones worth shit?

>>15741550

>Chaos

>literally man-eating memes

Yea its not bad at all, indulge in heresy as you like citizen.

>>15737617

Her just being Cadian suffices. It honestly pisses me off that Cadians always are portrayed as generic meatshield soldiers (compared to say, Kriegers or Catachans), when Cadian children are practically drafted into the army from the moment they are born.

>>15738490

>No orky FPS where you get to play with hilariously over-the-top weapons. Like a minigun where each barrels has multiple smaller barrels on it.

>>15739186

A TPS/Stealth game featuring Sly Marbo would be awesome if they intentionally made it extra-cheesy, with Rambo jokes left and right and all.

>>15742410

Fairly certain those got cancelled and the writer threw a tantrum on twitter.

>>15742460

I wonder who will fill the role of Imperial Guard poster-child now that Cadia went the way of Tanith

>>15742471

Given how many Cadians are out and about on thousand different battlefields in the Imperium (and given that many guardsmen are awarded with plots of land on conquered worlds if they live through their tour of duty), I think Cadia may be the lost, but not the Cadians themselves.

>>15742471

>>15742491

Fairly certain some of them settled a planet named vigilus that is going to be an important plot point.

>>15742491

I've always been curious about soldiers retiring in the imperium. Is it supposed to be like a "until you liberate a world" deal or "until you're old enough to not be decent in a fight" deal?

Speaking of Tanith, are the books worth reading? I read the first two and I liked them, a lot, but I felt the second book kind of shit the bed with how strong the Tanith are. I mean come on, like 10 or so soldiers holding their own against a heretic advance, complete with having their hands full with a bunch of wounded? A small squad of five somehow convincing the entire heretic force that they're facing unbeatable odds and committing mass suicide?

>>15742522

life extension tech exists in 40k and if you're an old soldier you're probably also a very good soldier that's been promoted a lot so its likely an "until you die" kind of deal.

>tiny, unreadable fonts and ui

>garbage camera that constantly moves on its own but not when you move the cursor to the edges to the screen, so your entire game experience is fubar

>annoying game counter and in game-counter

>pretty bare-boned nu-xcom clone with necrons = meh. plus very short.

>no warhammer feels for some reason. feels like crappy xcom clone.

got bored quickly, gotta play x-com + long war instead.

>>15742460

>>15742410

The books have been delayed till next year, while they are also trying to sell the audio books with the BBC faggots of Doctor Who narrating the two golden turds.

>>15742698

be prepared for losing the first 50 battles, i call it the losing simulator because all you do is lose. if you enjoy getting buttfucked, get this - otherwise stay the hell away

>>15742728

this shit might be worth 10 bucks, they ask triple so - isodemo and lol

>>15742741

soundtrack is the best thing that came out of this, the artstyle is decent as well. but as a game, it blows. frustrating as hell, you lose every battle until the only two guys you have are powered up and then its almost game over. whoever came up with this design should get purged by the emperor himself. you don't design a game to make people lose all the time, dumbest shit i've ever played

>>15741022

>I'm terrible at battlefleet gothic armada.

don't worry too much, a lot can be traced back to the devs being fucking retards who can't balance or beta test anything

Armada 2 is going to be a huge shitfest

>>15741550

I've personally read the original trilogy. Don't go expecting world class literature, but they're pretty good reads. Just keep in mind it takes it sweet time setting the heresy up, the first book is basically entirely just setting the stage. From what I've gathered from people that have read them all is that Abnett and McNeill are pretty competent writers and have generally written the best HH novels.

the final nail in the coffin for this game is how it cheats you out of content: instead of a proper world design map they have this shadow-runny-matrix-esque glow map in place where you move your goof troops around, very, very lame.

lack of budget speaks volumes on every turn here, it's lacking as a game in all aspects

steam can praise this all it wants, i'd be surprised if it sells enough to cover the development costs. very sucky game imho

>>15737105

>tfw no Imperial Guard game where you have to fight legions of enemies and have dedicated roles and limited respawns like a cross between UT2k4/good Battlefront/Tribes, occasionally getting promoted or recognized by your superiors and occasionally BLAM'd for "incompetence"

>tfw no Planetary Governor game where you basically play SimPlanet

>tfw no God-Emperor's Holy Inquisition game where you fly around and stop various bad shit from happening, and failing that, having to push the Exterminatus button

>tfw no Rogue Trader game where you fuck around and do questionable shit but almost always get paid

>tfw no Mechanicus game where you suffer autistic fits trying to efficiently mass produce weapons/armor/whatever in manufactorums while telling laborers that they've been blessed with an additional ten hours of work, and they comply because you've got about fifty mechanandrites carrying shockmauls and have tank treads for legs

>tfw no Tau game where you have to try to survive despite being hilariously retarded

>tfw no Farsight Enclave game where you can make a permanent alliance with the Imperium of Man and have technological interchange between the Earth Caste Tau and the Mechanicus, possibly starting a technological revolution and beginning to unfuck the grimdark nightmare that is 40k, for noblebright fans only

>no Necron game where you go to bed, wake up, shit's on fire and try to stop shit burning just to go back to bed because fuck those goddamn fleshy fucks

>no Chaos Heretic game where you basically play SimPlanet but this time you're trying to corrupt a pre-existing Imperial world and force fucked up mass breeding for sacrifices and cannibalism

>no Dark Mechanicus game where you actually do SCIENCE™ not actually science, just throwing random shit together and seeing what pops out

>no Adeptus Arbites game where you are the Law

>no Adeptus Custodes game where you do nothing but jack off in the Imperial Palace every Thursday, save the occasional demonic incursion and telling people to stop being retarded on Terra, complete with slice of life bullshit

>no Dark Eldar game where you try to waifu some enslaved mon-keigh because passion's passion, whether through torture or love

>no Eldar game where you get to explore the Webway

>>15742773

I like the different races having different strategies, but it'd be neat to compose my own navy type. I tend to like chaos merely for the whole long range broadsides thing and the models of the ship, even though I'm not traditionally a chaos player.

>>15742822

Zachatronics Forge World game when?

it's not a mutt game so no gendershit. that's a plus at least.

>>15742836

The thing I absolutely hate about fucking GW is that there's so much goddamn potential and they keep wasting it on dumb shit.

>>15742849

GW has nothing to do with the videogames, they just give out the license.

>>15742852

That's what I'm talking about, they keep licensing it out to dumb people.

>>15742855

Its not like GW knows much about vidya, they cant do it themeselves and THQ (wich was their videogame crush) died, so they are just giving out to see what sticks.

In their own market, tabletop, they are doing really well and are releasing a bunch of cool shit people have been asking for for years.

>>15742855

They keep licensing it out to the likes of Focus Home Interactive, a shit tier publisher whose notorious for releasing amateurish, rushed, low budget/polish, low content games.

They got lucky once or twice with the likes of Styx but they're a garbage publisher and the devs under them don't deserve such a fate.

>>15742849

I just want the ork dream game everyone on this board seems to be dreaming about whenever 40k vidya is mentioned. It has so much potential for FUN.

>>15742410

Jesus, it's like the noblebright green text stories on /tg/ made manifest.

screw orks, and screw necrons. this would have been good, but same as space hulk they blew it. one was boring as hell and the other lacked the budget for a fully fleshed out game. make of that what you will. best warhammer really was that gears clone from thq way back (it had shitty orcs as well, but at least it was good as a game).

i doubt there will be a good game coming ever. this could have been good, but it turned out a crappy xcom clone instead.

what it should have been, is a more like dawn of war with huge aspect on tech trees, upgrades, research, lore… and way more graphics. this is just a lame cash grab

The OST seems alright. It's like a mix of synth and choirs and I dig it.

>>15742522

If a regiment does particularly well, they may be allowed to colonize a world that they conquered, becoming its ruling caste. The series is a fairly decent action series, though you're right, the Ghosts are pretty overpowered. That being said, it occasionally gives us some background into how the citizens and soldiers of the Imperium live when they're not on the battlefield. Later books do the same for the human armies of Chaos

>>15743060

After giving the whole OST a listen I really dig the first two tracks. Other than that it's okay but nothing stands out. The fact that it has what seems to be one combat track speaks volumes on the amount of content this game has.

>>15742822

>no Adeptus Arbites game where you are the Law

Holy shit, I can see it.

>"open world" ala the Witcher 3, multiple maps representing different altitudes of the hive

>the hive city map is a massive city with some highways, armored cars and bikes are easily available

>the lower hive city is more sprawling and many streets are too filled with junk/ruins/debris to drive any car, only bikes are available and not so many

>massive story mission where some noble wants to clean up the underhive where you get to use heavy bolters/PDF tanks, of course it ends badly for the arbites

>stranded in a Mad Max level, desert filled with junk and ruins of the underhive, you would have to roam the place untill you found Arbites ID in a wrecked vehicle to be allowed back into hive city

>some missions could take place in the upper spires/you get to see Astartes doing a raid to "recruit" underhive youngsters

>dedicated STOP CRIMINAL SCUM button (with multiple one liners)

I want this so bad…

>>15739637

Cause it's shit.

It's a poor diablo-like with a 40k skin on it and it doesn't even do the effort to use the 40k RPG/kill team lore properly or anything despite having been marketed as a 40k RPG.

Add 3rd party account, single player game that is always online and you have a steaming pile of shit, even if the core gameplay isn't that bad.

I'm bit by bit liking Spice Muhrine more, it seems I'm over the halfway point which is a shame, but I can already feel the game beginning to wear out its welcome especially since it seems I've already gotten all the weapons and seen all the enemies the game has to offer. The inquisitor is obviously an evil dude or a pawn of some chaos faggot or whatever and I really want to bone Mira. It dawned on me that the jumppack and thunder hammer are insanely OP in spite of being fun and that's the reason why they get taken from you a chapter later.

>>15743744

Actual spoiler

Drogan is not the bad guy.

>>15744074

But he's obviously going to be a pawn of the bad guy.

>>15739627

>>15739619

how about you both stop trying to turn this thread into degenerate trash? fuck your "board culture"

>>15738123

You found a way around that bug? I got exactly the same problem.

>>15744097

Drogan neither willingly nor unwillingly serves the bad guy. Although I am fairly certain you will be disappointed who does.

>>15744103

>>>/islam/

>>>/egy/

Go here, there’s no degeneracy on these boards.

Mechanicus is probably the best polished 40k I've seen in a long time. Maybe ever. Usually 40k games are pretty rough around the edges because they're done by simply average or competent studios who were given the license by GW throwing a dart at a board. Mechanicus actually looks and feels almost like a top professionally produced game. ESPECIALLY the sound designs, holy fuck. Whoever worked on the sound for whatever studio did this really fucking knows what they're doing, the music and ambience is great. Now, gameplay wise, it's just too easy. The mechanics themselves are good, and there's lots of potential to make challenging levels and missions, and there are some bugs, but overall it's simply too easily beaten.

Part of it being too easy is 1) the enemies don't really get more difficult or more numerous as awakening goes up (in the global awakening meter) and 2) some of your abilities are fucking ridiculous. Almost all the best abilities in the game are the first thing you unlock, so you can have techpriests that avoid attacks of opportunity, fire 4 meters farther, collect 1 cog every turn, etc. It just makes everything a fucking breeze. Mid to late game you could just win everything with 2-3 tech priests.

Other than than, Gladius was actually a pretty decent 4X. That one looks and feels rough around the edges like you'd expect, but it's a pretty competently done 4X if a little bland in some spots.

Deathwing was an abomination when it released (I watched it closely) and I checked back on it 6 months later only to find tons of complaints still. Maybe it's less shit now, but the playerbase would have evaporated at this point. I expected a little better from the E.Y.E. devs.

Why are there so many Warhammer games? Why are they all trash? Why don't they make one good game instead of 10 instantly forgettable pieces of shit. They could have made Warhammer Online into an amazing game, but they decided to just trash it instead.

>>15744440

>I expected a little better from the E.Y.E. devs.

It was only partly made by Streum On, it was a collab with some shovelware dev for unfathomable reasons

>>15744448

Because GW doesn't treat the IP as a sacred cow to be venerated and protected and respected for posterity and the fans. It's a business based on milking an IP cashcow as regularly and as stably as possible. Who the fuck DOESN'T know this? Good decisions for the IP or fanbase itself simply doesn't factor into it, the thing is owned and controlled by cold uncaring jews who don't give a shit and just want it to make shekels.

>>15744617

I'll never understand you CA shills

>>15744440

>Part of it being too easy is 1) the enemies don't really get more difficult or more numerous as awakening goes up (in the global awakening meter) and 2) some of your abilities are fucking ridiculous. Almost all the best abilities in the game are the first thing you unlock, so you can have techpriests that avoid attacks of opportunity, fire 4 meters farther, collect 1 cog every turn, etc. It just makes everything a fucking breeze. Mid to late game you could just win everything with 2-3 tech priests.

I agree with the fact it's too easy, but the problem is it's within the lore.

The mechanicus main forces are servitors, skitarii are the force they keep for regular military duties and are essentially their version of PDF/Guard, battle automata being the stuff for when SHTF.

Techpriests that like war and actually participate in combat are very rare.

Those that do are always fucking literal monsters per imperial power standards, a combat magos being at the very least dreadnought-class if not a knight-class.

An Auxilia Myrmidon Secutor (which is one of the tree in the game) tend to be basically unkillable with infantry weaponry and have a very rare, very nasty gun that other examples would be as main tank gun…

They're the faction that can outgun anyone in 40k and remember everyone that it's all fun and game until an Archmagos decide something is worth breaking out the shit from the Dark Ages out of the Sacred Cosmoline.

So yeah if you have a full killteam of the fuckers steam rolling half asleep necrons isn't that weird (it gets weird for the bosses, necrons bosses should be stupid hard).

>>15744268

I haven't found one yet, but if you find a fix, anons in this thread (myself included) would be very grateful if you posted it.

>>15744945

Necrons are the only good race

>>15744961

Lore over gameplay is a bad thing unless it directly breaks or goes against the lore. Just because techpriests can be considered badasses doesn't mean the game itself should be such a walk in the park, especially against Necrons who are no slouches themselves. They're notoriously difficult to kill and have powerful weapons.

They could easily make the game far more challenging with greater enemy stat variety and map variety while still remaining solidly within the lore. They did a pretty great job keeping everything within the realm of how it's all supposed to be, "because lore" shouldn't be a valid reason for making a game unchallenging, since that really hurts the enjoyability.

>>15744453

Here's the thing though, Cyanide isn't a shovelware dev anymore, their earlier games were grade A garbage. They made Styx, Aarklash Legacy, I think the first Bloodbowl, Of Orcs and Men and that new Cthulu game(it's okay) so they're at least capable of making good and enjoyable shit(I'm not saying they're perfect GOTYAY games but they're pretty fun and I for one replay Styx on a yearly basis). But then if you look at their dev profile they're also saddled with making yearly Pro [Sport] Manager releases. I believe everything wrong with Cyanide, as is everything wrong with Deathwing as is everything wrong with Spiders, a studio that could reach greatness if all of their games weren't rushed to hell and back and also weren't trying to emulate Bioware/Bethesda/CDPR despite being much better off doing their own thing is Focus Home Interactive, the publisher.

>>15745962

Yeah, unsurprisingly I started playing them instead of chaos and began winning every single match. Defilers are nice and all, but when you're required to build them constantly just to hold back necrons, it is time to switch. The fact that you don't have to bother much with strategic points (outside of your first couple) makes it a lot easier. You just turtle your power until you get an activated monolith and win the game, if your necron lord doesn't do it first.

>>15744945

While they are down, you need to go raze his power plants.

>>15746326

As IG I used this trick of dedicating a squad of guardsmen and a heavy weapons squad just waiting around for the lord/warp spider to rez while my main army goes around fucking with their bases.

>>15746593

Whoops, meant to quote >>15743569

>>15742522

After the first two the series gets a lot better for exactly the reason you mentioned, the author starts to cut that shit out.

The tanith scouts are still fairly OP, though, and some of the books after sabbat martyr I think it was? Aren't that great.

Are there any singleplayer mods for DoW1 or 2?

>>15746593

>tfw you will never run around fucking up heretics with a power maul

>>15746657

I see. I guess I won't lose anything reading a few more books in the series.

>>15746326

I meant morally but that's true too

See, now that I'm going through the Mechanicus devs' history, it's almost baffling. You know how GW just keeps throwing the license at subpar devs who make average games at best, and most of them are just buggy and rough? Well looking at this history that's what SHOULD have happened with this game. Kasedo Games or whatever is the developer and their development history has mostly stuff that isn't interesting at all.

Which brings me to my point: it seems the only time we actually get actually respectable and relatively polished 40k games is when it's a fucking accident. Mechanicus is one of those accidents. Maybe the studio hired pro contractors or something when they got the license? I don't know, but their previous titles are not up to the same visual and audio level of quality seen in this game. It's just jarring to see that most of their previous stuff is basically Steam shovelware (it's not quite that bad but you know what I mean).

>>15746757

It's getting exceedingly obvious that GW throws the IP to either garbage publishers who are garbage factories(Kasedo, Focus Home, Slytherine) or shit tier bottom of the barrel iOs developers who have no idea what quality is(see every iOs title) because GW hasn't got a clue as to the goldmine they could have with the vidya industry and got ultra-lucky with THQ and Relic putting the IP to good use for two games.

Fuck me, Templar Battleforce alone is pretty much better than any of the Space Hulk games released. Sanctus reach could have been good but it's repetitive as fuck and the second you realize how OP the storm terminator is the game is over.

>>15746830

>wah wah i hate every video game company ever

>do i fit in yet?

fuck off back to resetera fucking cuckchanner

>>15746835

Lurk 40000 years before posting again

>>15746838

so epic meme you are so an 8chan anonymous man what subreddit did you come from?

>>15746757

implying 40k videogames arent just

hey look at this setting pretty cool right but shame that this game is medicore so why dont you buy 7 copies of blackstone fortress

>>15746830

I think GW is afraid of giving out the license to triple A publishers like EA or ubisoft because they WILL get outjewee and probably pozzed aswell, so they rather work with semi indie people that cant jew them out of their IP.

>>15746989

I'd rather it be this way than them giving it to some (((AAA))) corporation of poz Jews that will try and force bull-dyke space marines on us.

>>15746989

Yeah but surely there are good semi indie people out there.

>>15746368

Phylactery makes that pretty much useless, even more so if you're in campaign and grab the shroud wargear.

Apart from the straight up mobile trash, most 40K games have been solid middle-tier games.

>>15744945

Dark Crusade made some of the most unbalanced races.

>All the things about Necrons you said.

>Tau are absolute beasts at shooting (as they should be) but on top of that, all units can infiltrate, and in the campaign the AI cheats by giving them access to both sides of their tech trees maxed out.

>Eldar

>Just Eldar

>You want more? Okay, here, this should sum things up.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Dawn_of_Eldar

I wish the Vermintide games didn't have a season pass, they shouldn't divide the small playerbase.

>>15746593

>become the hive's best traffic officer by fining and persuing 5 idiots in a shitty van

That's the hidden gameplay mode unlocked by defeating the hardest difficulty missions. You can't buy the unlock with real money either, you have to fucking do it yourself.

>>15742822

>>15746593

>>15748724

>adeptus arbites game

>>15747803

Pardon me?

Are you having a stroke? Please inform me what part of my post you found objectionable.

>>15748951

>>15748966

Apparently it's a bonus mission or something next month.

>>15749248

No wait sorry it's 1018, which is even sillier

>>15742822

> technological interchange between the Earth Caste Tau and the Mechanicus, possibly starting a technological revolution

Most tau tech is inferior to mechanicum tech. they can just give better flashlights to their grunts because there's less of them.

>>15742759

Maybe you're just bad at it.

>>15742759

if you look at the steam discussions page it's flooded with people complaining the game is far, far too easy. And they're correct.

The first couple missions or so are the roughest only because you're learning by doing and you're missing out on tons of abilities and weapons, but once you get past the first 2-3 deployments everything becomes a fucking cakewalk. If you're complaining it's too difficult, you're either absolute trash at vidya or you haven't bothered making it past two missions.

Whichever of those two scenarios is the case, you're still a fag and you should be embarrassed. Like complaining that checkers is too complicated a game.

>>15739128

>No cover? But I'm hearing good things.

No cover as in you don't go to designated cover to cover points. I haven't played it but I have played classic x-com one to many times and projectiles would either hit you, fly past your guy, or hit an obstacle between him and the target so it's probably like that.

>>15750464

there is cover, but it's line of sight. most attacks can be body blocked and servitors are made for this.

>>15749679

Eh, Tau drones are better than servo skulls, plus I feel the Imperial Guard could make better use of markerlights than the Tau do.

Holy fuck the AI in Deathwing is retarded. I can't rely on these cunts at all.

>>15750810

Worth it to get all the expansions? I don't have any interest in playing as chaos and xenos but I do have interest in purging them so it seems like a good idea to add them to the game.

>>15750824

I think so. The cash goes to relic for their old work and every expansion has campaigns for humans and xenos so you can just ignore the latter. If you are feeling uncertain get the base game first and then add the expansions otherwise if you know you like strategy/base building games you might as well get them all since they add new toys for you to use and new enemies to incinerate.

>>15750810

The biggest problem with DOW1 is the scale. MAssive battls don't work well for Space Marines, who are bascally special forces and msot of the battles are small teams. Them being deployed en masse like a regular army is extra rare and only is special cases. Not to mention the losses one takes in a campaign are enough to ruin a chapter.

There is a great mod for DoW 1 where you basically control a singel squad (individual units) trough a custom campaign and every marine FEELS like a space marine, as you are a LOT tankier and deadlier.

>>15750916

Yeah I know what you mean. Not to mention that the normal camera and maps limits what you can see and do. I still think it is a great game and most of its flaws can be alleviated with the right combination of mods.

>>15739433

Why would you use women, who create the warm bodies, to fight. You'd have them in breeding camps 24/7

>>15739507

You're actually generalizing humans now. Most humans with mutations come from differing planets.

>>15739186

Catachan vs Bloodaxe vs Lictor arena game when?

>>15751138

Because how else are you going to get women with nice fit asses to serve the emberor?

>>15751026

How long before they turn that planet into a fortified planet that can withstand even Blackstone Fortresses?

>>15747549

Pretty sure you can still join any DLC maps you don't own. You just can't host games with the maps included.

>>15751650

>Implying creed is even on the battlefield instead of being posed in some shitty necron museum

>>15751688

>implying getting caught wasn't part of his plan

>>15751760

A big complaint I've heard is that there's no good damage indication/feedback when you get hit. So you can be taking damage without properly noticing it. Confirm/deny?

Also that your terminator armor gets damaged from small arms fire that it should be shrugging off like dust in a light breeze.

>>15751815

Confirmed. The game gives a small red arrow when taking damage, but if you're under fire from two-three hybrids with stubbers, you can be fucked before knowing what is going on (which is bullshit, a terminator shouldn't take damage from small arms fire)

Also the close quarters attacks lack weigth or gravitas, only the powerfist is actually nice to use (and can block incoming fire)

>>15751971

This video is the reason why all my warhammer shit os still plastic grey.

>>15751983

Same, I remember getting a 20 dollar starting kit a couple of years back, watching half a dozen videos on how to paint models and how you should THIN YOUR FUCKING PAINTS and my first space marine still ended up looking like a fucking abomination. So I just gave up, and to this day still have a squad of unpainted *ultrasmurfs* with one solitary fuckup in the middle.

>TFW we'll never have an Emporer's Children game that's equal parts Space Marine, bike racing, and dameonette dating sim

Why even live?

>>15752109

Yeah most devs don't ever bother using the titgod or the birdfaggot. It's a shame since I love purging a diverse and creative collection of enemies.

>>15752078

>not turning sororitas, arbites, PDF and guardswomen to chaos using the power of your space marine demon dick

Wow dude.

>>15751141

I dont mean only ab-humans anon, im talking about the usual mutants you purge once a year in any imperial planet as a holiday.

>>15751204

Never because we cant have fun.

>>15751688

Hes part of trazyn's imperimon collection now, gotta catch them all!

>>15751857

Theres deathwatch:enhanced edition.

>>15752078

>Wanting all that shit

>Not wanting a Night Lords game that plays like the stealth takedown sections of the Arkham games, only with evisceration and flaying mini games in between takedowns.

>No World Eaters hack n’ slash.

>No Death Guard game with Nurgling raising simulators.

>No Iron Warriors game where you destroy everything with superior firepower and the piss on the ashes to give the finger to the Emperor.

>No Black Crusade management sim where you play as Abaddon trying to gather the forces of the Black Legion for another Black Crusade. Manage units, make deals with other traitor legions for certain units, Thousand Sons for Rubrics, Iron Warriors for Obliteraters, World Eaters for Berserkers, etc.

>>15752183

>Mixed reviews

Something tells me it isn't a proper X-COM clone

>>15752589

Chaos gate is pretty good. If there's one thing consistent across 40k games it's that the music is usually good.

I just got Dawn of War II today, any pointers for someone who has never played Dawn of War?

>>15752649

Chaos gate did a better ultra-smurf anthem than the actual ultramarines movie.

>>15752674

Scout marines with satchel charges win the game.

>>15752674

Play dow soulstorm / dark crusade instead.

My display driver keeps crashing every turn or so in Mechanicus. I'm using a pirated copy FYI. What the fuck do I do?

>>15753711

try updating it from the manufacturer's website and restarting to see if it fixes it. Also there's a couple patches that fix a few gamebreaking bugs, 1.0.4 which you can grab on its own from IGG's site, do it at your own risk though I've never had an issue and 1.0.5 which was only released maybe 24 hours ago and isn't available anywhere. Until you have 1.0.5 do NOT do the Kastelan robot mission, everything else should be relatively fine (unless you don't have 1.0.4 either in which case don't play Grave Goods mission) and make sure you save all the time. It's an easy game but you never know when you'll need to rollback to another save.

>>15753711

Anoint the device with sacred oils and recite the 412th litany of the Omnissiah, then interface with the machine spirit to locate and purge file "System XXXII".

>>15753733

Updated to .4 but it still has the same problem. Changed refresh rates around, settings, etc but to no avail. Sometimes I might get lucky and my game will last longer than a round, but for the most part the shittin’ driver keeps crashing no matter what I do.

Im on the last battle of the tutorial mission fyi.

>>15753909

Like I said, you should update your GPU drivers depending on whether you're nVidia or AMD. If you haven't done that there's a good chance it will fix the problem; if it doesn't, then you're essentially SOL. I may be your own particular hardware setup, I don't have any performance problems with it myself, so other than updating your video drivers I have no idea what else you could do.

>>15755272

Its a bug that shows up in pirated copies.

>>15755272

>>15755321

It's a bug that only applies to one or two missions if you have version 1.0.3 or earlier, like I mentioned in my other post. You don't have to play Grave Goods, and that mission failed bug because you can't spawn is the most egregious one that you can simply avoid if you can't update.

Keep in mind if Grave Goods is bugged for you, so will the first Kastelan robot mission be later (it doesn't allow your priests to trigger end game on an escape square when it should). If you avoid those two things, you shouldn't have any issues.

>>15739245

Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest

It's over on sufficient velocity, but it's good regardless.

>>15755686

will that lock me out of an ending?

>>15757875

To the best of my knowledge, no. There's only one ending as far as I know, and the only way you'd get locked out of completing the game would be if you're required to play a certain mission to progress. I DON'T know if that's the case, because I don't know what mission advancement is tied to. I thought maybe global awakening, but someone said they beat the game with 35% awakening and I'm at 70, and haven't unlocked the last two areas yet, so that can't be it.

I will tell you that the patches don't fuck up your saves, so here's worst case scenario: you play the game and avoid those two missions (always keep an updated save that's saved from the main ship screen). You play as many missions as you can, and there's a good chance the boss missions and progression to the end unlock. If they don't, and you think progression is locked behind the Kastelan mission, then you'll need to download the 1.0.5 patch probably from IGG, not sure where else you'd get it and patch the game, making sure to start from the ship screen once patched since patches don't apply to saves in-mission.

The journey is better than the destination in this case anyway, the game has an inverted difficulty curve in that everything gets exponentially easier, so I'd just start over with some self impositions to make it way more challenging.

How does the Adeptus Mechanicus reproduce? Don't they see the flesh as weak? Do they simply live off converts or do they fuck machines or what?

>>15761215

At least on tabletop, Skitarii seem like a middle of the road between a space marine and a guardsmen. A bit less squishy than guardsmen thanks to better armor (but not as good as marines) and a 6+ feel no pain, and probably as deadly as a space marine but only in their given specialty. You can get a whole bunch of them too, but less than guardsmen so they aren't just for tarpitting a titan- you only tarpit things you think you can kill.

>>15761215

Skitarii are pretty hardy man, specially as they go up the ranks and start becoming more machine than man.

>>15761215

in one of the novels, a Skitarii veteran is almost as good in CQC as a newbie SM. Of course it was a duel with the rest of the SM squad and skitarii watching while the IG take bets.

Thoughts on Eisenhorn: Xenos?

>>15761657

>In the setting you can't "win" against the necrons only temporarily set them back.

I'm sure with 30k levels of tech you probably could win at least in small increments. First by preventing them from teleporting away and second by completely atomizing them. Also their time and space shenanigans (at least in the ships) were on par with necrons. Thanks, Horus…

>>15745889

>>15744268

I just updated to 1.0.4, and it fixed this bug.

>>15761657

>You can never defeat Necrons, just set them back a bit

Huh. From what I read of the lore of Necrons, I reckoned there were far fewer of them to go around, especially since they don't reproduce, and thus one of the weakest (besides the Tau).

Are any Necrons - even Lords - susceptible to Chaos?

>>15761931

Canonically, Necrons have ways to counter the warp (probably immune), are practically unkillable, and have gauss weaponry that put even the Age of Man era weaponry to shame. Don't let their small numbers fool you. A single tomb world could devastate an entire sector if they wanted to.

>>15761931

>necrons

>chaos

Anon, the reason why cadia was holding back the warp-currents of the eye of terror was because necrons had a bunch of pylons there that acted as chaos-away!, the imperium is trying really hard to reverse engineer their anti-warp shit.

>>15762061

Yes, it's really sweet. Of course, GW had to jew us by chopping their book in two.

I'm interested. What was that admec book most people recommended?

>>15762156

From personal experience, the Lords of Mars trilogy is a good read.

>>15761931

>I reckoned there were far fewer of them to go around

That's the things they aren't, there aren't a lot of them AWAKE, there is a lot of them it's just nearly all of them are sleeping.

The War in Heaven (Old Ones + Eldar + Krorks VS Necron) ended in a stalemate, as the Necron did managed to destroy the Old Ones (that were basically an entire race of God like beings, same as the Emperor is the pinnacle of the human race, imagine a whole race that powerful) but they ended spending so much energy doing so they realized that the pointed eared menace and the bigger, better and greener orks were so outnumbering them they would run out of energy before killing them all.

So they built their tomb/fortress complexes and went to sleep to recuperate and end things once and for all on wake up.

Meanwhile the Orks degenerated largely because they couldn't use the Old Ones tech since there were no more Old Ones to make it (as Orks being a living weapon only recompose tech they don't actually "make" it), while the Eldars were nommed by Slaanesh and the Eye of Terror.

So when the Necron wake up they're like "Hey we won! All we have to do now is a bit of pest control, because we haven't been in the house for a while".

The Imperium is not even a threat to the Necron at large.

The Necrons have guns that are powered by stars…

As in you put a star in a Dyson sphere and you use it as a reactor to power ONE gun.

>>15762045

Now you would think this shit is OP.

But black hole weaponry is pretty standard for the Eldars while Necrons are master of time and space weaponry.

Humanity at it's peak (before even the Imperium, the Imperium "Golden Age" was the "last hurrah".) had both but vortex weaponry is rare while time and space shit is a lost technology by 40k, Magos that did that acceded those systems in the Ark had no fucking clue what he was doing, all that he did was "fusing with the machine spirit" which unshackled the ship IA for an instant.

Necrons are a mix of Cthulhu and Death, you can't "fight them", all you can do is putting them back to sleep and pray they don't wake up soon.

>>15761939

>>15761931

Necrons have no presence in the warp, so they'd be a bit like untouchables to any psyker. They also have Pariahs, which are extra unwarpy.

>>15761411

>Thoughts on Eisenhorn: Xenos?

You mean the game? Don't bother, I'd say. You'd get better quality entertainment from reading the book. Although I've read all three of the trilogy, and it gets a little worse for the wear as you get further into the books. You get the feeling Abnett (pretty sure it's him) is starting to slap stuff together by the time Eisenhorn starts fucking around with channeling a daemon and shows little qualms about it, the impression of the late writing of the trilogy feels more slapdash and less polished than the first book.

>>15762333

>>15762045

>>15761974

>>15761939

Well, shit, that puts things into perspective a bit. I can see that they're held back a lot by their lack of overall unity and energy. It's so OP in a universe where most things are already OP that the factions may be balanced. I think the Tau are still clearly the weakest and at the most risk, though, unless some new information came out saying otherwise.

>>15762822

Well, technically, the dark eldar are the most irrelevant ones, unlike the tau, they cant fight wars, homever they have sick tech.

Also, think of it like this, chaos is the far end of the disorder factions in 40k, necrons are the far end of order.

>>15762919

It's a good co-op action RPG too.

>>15761411

It's not a game, it's a walking simulator that basically follows the book.

It's well narrated and has decent set pieces (for a phone app) so it's ok if you don't want to read the book I guess.

But IMHO you're better off reading…

>>15762509

>They also have Pariahs, which are extra unwarpy.

Pariahs are gone from the Nucron rooster since Nucron have sentience they were kind of redundant I guess.

Now the "blackstone" stuff the necrons make everything out of (well not just them ancient eldars were using it too) is warp repellent in itself.

>>15763565

>Our great spiritual liege matt ward made pariahs pointless, and fucked up necrons lore in general.

Unfortunately yeah; though they are in dawn of war.

>>15763565

I read some of the commissar cain books recently and it's kind of jarring reading a book that's based on old necron fluff knowing what they are now.

>>15737574

Loved Space Marine, I wish they were making more games in that series.

So Space Hulk is good? I've thought about getting it before.

>>15764042

I want a game with the same genre as space marine but instead you're a kickass mechanicus magos with all the bells and whistles, which you can customize extensively.

>>15764118

Stop, I can only get so erect, anon.

>>15764270

MULTIPLE, SIMULTANEOUS PLASMA CULIVERII, ENERGY SHIELDS, AND NUMEROUS SNAKING DENDRITES FOR MURDERING AND LOCOMOTION

>>15764280

Ooh, that's nice.

>>15764280

This one is better

I finished Spoice Muhreen. On one hand it was nice enough to play, on the other it felt sort of generic even for a TPS without a shitty cover mechanic, the final boss was a joke and Chaos is pretty boring to fight against, specially their guardsmen and psykers who burst you so fast the screen is nothing but orange flashes, it's disorientating and annoying as shit to watch.

Leandros a shit. Also that final scene was a joke, when Mira says "come on" it feels like she's some friend of a kindergartener kid who's being called mean names.

>>15764280

>>15764738

Pretty good.

>>15750810

I finished DoW 1 Dark Crusade yesterday. The last DoW1 one I have is now Soulstorm. Nice to play new units.

>>15764738

It's really not.

>>15762848

Tau are only relevant because of plot shenanigans. I thought they were only around because no one bothered to turn their attention to them, but when you look at everything going on with them, they have no real right to have survived as long as they have. DE could do some damage if they wanted to, but it would be a blaze of glory that isn't characteristic of them, as extended time outside of their home would likely risk getting their soul eaten even with the practices they engage in to prevent that.

>>15737591

>>15737599

>was having fun purging necrons

>mostly easy only lose pleb units

>pretty enjoyable game so far

>spawn into battle, necrons go first, 6 jetpack necrons jump from the other side of the map over and all attack the same guy killing him

>uninstall

Maybe im garbage but losing my main unit on the first turn before I can do anything makes the game garbage.

>>15768494

>Tau have no right to have survived for as long as they have.

GW have addressed this, the Tau fleets ran into Mortarion and the Death Guard and got their shit fucked up by Nurgle daemons+Plague Marines.

I finally had time to get further into Mechanicus, and it's been pretty great. But goddamn were people not exaggerating with the game becoming too easy. The game started fairly easy - I killed the first destroyer during the second turn of combat, and I never lost anything other than a single servitor. I found a plasma culverin within the first few missions, and the character specializing in the tree that lets you fire a weapon without paying the cogs dominated combat. In the late game, I'm completing combat-after-combat on the first turn. Combat is now being dominated by an explorator/secutor, who can guarantee 3-5 kills per turn, cross the entire map twice, and summon a 1-cost Kastelan when he's out of weapons to use, who then torches even more Necrons.

Techpriest builds can be pretty interesting. I have each discipline being used twice across my team in different combinations. I really like the play styles I can build into. I know a lot of people apparently dip into getting a cog at the start of each turn on every techpriest, but that feels like a waste to me, since two of the trees end with powers that just refill the entire cog meter. Explorators apparently reduce the cog cost of their power axe by one, but it isn't listed in their skill tree. I don't know which skill causes it.

>>15768515

The triarchs are really trash enemies because of their jump attack and reliable high initiative. The best way to counter them is to realize that their AI makes them attack the unit that is furthest away from them, so if you see any on the map, you have to put a tanky unit in the very back. They're not hard once you realize this, but I almost quit the first time I entered a fight with them, because there were three of them, they almost killed a techpriest for free before I had ever even fought one.

>>15742460

>Fairly certain those got cancelled and the writer threw a tantrum on twitter.

I wanted to believe this so badly that I actually researched into this, but it doesn't look like it's true. The books are slated to launch in February. They even have audiobooks.

>>15768515

>Maybe im garbage but losing my main unit on the first turn before I can do anything makes the game garbage.

That's the only real difficulty the game offers, which is why those dungeon-exploration events in which you make a choice that results in "Necrons: Init ++" are super bad. In general, Praetorians aren't broken or difficult to handle, but several of them combined with the "Necrons go first" malus IS broken.

>>15768597

Yes, the discussions pages for Steam users are awash in people talking about 1) how easy it is and 2) what to do to make things harder until they add difficulty.

Personally, I prefer to make the Magi less OP and the Skit more useful, so I roll with:

* Two tech priests maximum

* No canticles can be used other than Rank 1s

* You cannot choose the cog point generation tree

* You can only choose Explorator or Dominus, not both, for any single priest

* A priest can only devote points to two trees, no more

* You cannot take the Energeia Enhancer perk in Dominus tree if you do, it reduces the cog costs of ALL weapons equipped, which is insanely broken

* You cannot spend more than 2 cognition points per priest moving extra times

>>15764280

>CULIVERII

Etymology

Borrowed from Old French coulevrine, from couleuvre (“snake”) (or from Latin colubrīnus), ultimately from Latin colubra, coluber (“snake”). Doublet of colubrine.

Pronunciation

IPA(key): /ˈkʌlvəɹɪn/

Noun

culverin (plural culverins)

Lexmechanic unit, report to your designated supervisor for disciplinary punishment.

>>15768849

Removing options doesn't make the game harder, it makes it a game of attrition instead of a game of employing advanced tactics or a series of complex actions. The most fun parts of the game is being surrounded by necrons and devising a plan to clear the entire board without taking any damage. Besides, every tree is overpowered. Explorator gets the same all-weapon discount and can cross entire maps with only one cog point, and delete three enemies with their axe and two combat tentacles and a power generator. Secutors deployment ability is ridiculously effective, and the command fire ability is another ability that removes any enemy you've prepared for. The only tree that doesn't get abilities that remove multiple Necrons from the board is the Enginseer.

The only things I would like to see changed with troops are increasing their movement speed by 1 when they level up, making the skitarii cost 1 cog to deploy by default, and dropping the servitor to 0 cog once he hits level 2. Honestly, some of the troops are incredibly effective. Servitors do exactly what they are meant to. I used Vanguards the entire game, once I unlocked them. Their range makes up for the fact that they can barely crawl through the maps, or at least it does on levels without lots of cover in the way. Ranger Alphas were great units to deploy on a ranged enemy you're unable to kill, since they'd not only get a reaction attack, but they'd also likely attack before them, and if they had a lot of health like an immortal, then you could spend a cog to dodge their attack after they survived your swings. I suppose the Vanguard Alpha and the Ranger need buffed. The Vanguard Alpha's weapon can't even clear scarabs, making it the worst option to bring.

The real issue with the difficulty is that the first few necrons you fight pose a threat, which you can negate by feeding them servitors. After that, you're never really threatened by anything anymore, since you destroy everything so quickly. But padding enemy health and damage would just make you play defensively, popping out, dealing damage, and hiding. That'd slow the game down and make combat feel like a chore. The most danger you feel in the game is when you're caught unprepared, such as enemies spawning and attacking before you can react, but that sort of stuff is just a big "fuck you" to whoever is playing. The best solution would be to jack up the spawns by an extra 100-150%. That would still let you play aggressively while putting more emphasis on the action economy. For as much as the game talks about how the Necrons are swarming, you only fight a swarm once or twice, but they were really fun battles. The game is made in unity, so I imagine it's not long before someone hooks it up to the unity mod manager and finds a spawn table somewhere.

>>15769070

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>>15763958

We can at least be grateful Matt Ward gave us Trazyn

>>15769257

I honestly found cover to be fairly inconsistent in terms of what the enemy can shoot around or through so I stopped bothering trying to use it.

Would you rather be admech, half/full cyborg or space marine, genetically enhanced to the point of near perfection?

Forget the eternal wars and whatnot, would you choose replacing yourself with machine parts or genetically enhancing yourself?

>>15773458

THE FLESH IS WEAK

WEAK

>>15742563

Having played it for a bit no coop yet, I'm a hermit even online and I think it feels like they tried to adapt a lot of DoW2's last stand into an ARPG. Some of the logic is the same, like the abilities being mostly tied to your equipment rather than your character build. The cover system isn't quite as good there, but it has other things to differentiate it. I haven't really done melee outside of cheesing certain ranged enemies as a psyker because actually fighting them with psyker powers would take longer and build up too much heat, and they are not a good representation of it. This leads to some of the same issue as say Diablo 3, where early on you can just switch out some stuff and play very differently. However, skill trees and attributes seem to be their work around for that. If that succeeds, I don't know.

It also has an issue with enemies blending together, despite them trying. The horde enemies of Nurgle worshiping manlets and floating skulls are functionally the same. A bigger issue is that they did try to make a distinction between the different legions of Chaos Space Marines, but outside of their specific weapons, you aren't going to notice.

>>15761939

> gauss weaponry that put even the Age of Man era weaponry to shame.

The custodes have Adrathic weapons, which are even stronger than their gauss counterparts.

Mechanicus is fun but the balance is all kinds of fucked. You can get so incredibly powerful Necron lords become fucking push-overs.

It's a singleplayer game so thats not a huge issue, I suppose? But there's no difficulty slider and I have no idea if mods could amend the difficulty issue. A longer campaign would also be nice.

The tech tree is more extensive than X-com but you unlock your equipment by doing missions and you seem to get randomly selected awards for doing missions. So if you were planning to do a run relying heavily on Skitarii, you might just get fucked by the RNG.

The game is absolutely dripping with atmosphere and manages to make the Mechanicus seem less human than the fucking Necron, which is exactly how I want to see the Mechanicus. The sound design and OST are top tier and fit perfectly with the game, I think there's enough depth in the gameplay for it to be fun.

8/10 would recommend.

In the future I'd like to see more campaigns to play through, and although nice multiplayer wouldnt be a dealbreaker for me. I enjoy it in singleplayer plenty.

>>15761046

There's fucking quadrillions of humans they don't need to reproduce.

And i'd sure there's some tech priests and priestesses that kept their genitals. It's not heresy to have sex.

>>15761657

Isn't Cawl fucking 10,000 years old?

Isn't the Imperium actually advancing technologically now pretty much entirely because of Cawl?

>>15761657

>In lore Necrons are better because Necrons just don't die no matter what (save the C'tan soul virus thing and not even) and they just never fight at full power because it would be an adult fighting a 3 three year old seriously and the fact that to the necrons ultimately everything is a +/- sum. If they have to spend more energy to fight than what they need to fully wake up they just go back to sleep.

>In the setting you can't "win" against the necrons only temporarily set them back.

Can't you stop Necrons teleporting back and fixing themselves by exterminatusing the planet that they teleport back to?

Also fucking Bullshit you can't beat Necrons The Imperium completely destroyed their Death Star.

>>15761931

Necrons fashion themselves as the antithesis of the warp but the Chaos gods call Big E the anathema and the faggots don't even have blanks even though none of them have souls.

>>15777876

>How am I supposed to consider Xenos a threat?

because they at war whit the empire, also because everybody whit authority is incompetent

>>15777876

Well it is really simple human warp strength is basically Solidarity, strength in numbers. Humans never reached past the hurdles that would prevent AI rebellion so the Necrons are superior.

>>15762822

There are more humans on a single fucking hiveworld then there are Tau in existence.

Tau are fucking irrelevant and will never ever be considered anything close to a threat.

>>15762848

The Dark Eldar are vastly more advanced than the Tau they have technology to fucking steal suns and drag them to Commoragh to power their shithole city. Also Commoragh is fucking huge there are actually more Dark Eldar than there are craftworld eldar.

They are more advanced, more intelligent, and have greater numbers than the Tau.

>>15774572

>The game is absolutely dripping with atmosphere and manages to make the Mechanicus seem less human than the fucking Necron, which is exactly how I want to see the Mechanicus.

I don't know man the Magos actually cares about his men and truly values their lives.

He's more human to me than the average Commissar.

>>15778101

>By crashing irreplaceable capital ships into it, if I recall correctly?

A fucking Death Star is far more valuable than some battleships and 1000 Space Marines.

>>15778124

I mean unless they pull an actual star wars and have two death stars and then more deathstars on top of that thanks jew jew abrahams.

>>15778246

I mean the Imperium has 1000 chapters of 1000 space marines and it only cost 10 percent of 1 percent of their space marines to take out a goddamn death star.

The Necrons lost so much more than the Imperium in that battle that it's not even funny.

>>15778268

Oh, I'm just playing devil's advocate here; I would wonder though with all the exterminatus weapons available on the average fleet ship why not use those against a moon/planet sized foe? Maybe find a way to kill deathstars without sacrificing ships.

>>15778275

Because it had it's shields up and Necrons shields are strong.

>>15778101

Enough Necrons want to get flesh and blood bodies again, so I always assumed they kept sexual characteristics as much as pragmatism allowed for the inevitable day that would happen.

>>15778124

Keep in mind the Imperium is losing their ability to reproduce, let alone replace, battleships and Space Marines. The Imperium of man is dieing a slow death as they're chipped away at all sides.

>>15778411

>The Imperium is losing it's ability to produce Space Marines

Nigger Cawl and Bobby just rolled out a superior line of Space Marines.

The Imperium is only getting better at making Space Marines and they're advancing technologically again almost entirely due to Cawl.

>>15778411

Even if Necrons get their flesh back they'll never ever get their souls back.

Necrons get no afterlife if they die. Unlike pretty much every other race.

>>15737074

>Before 1.0.5 patch I could have a Volite Blaster on someone and it'd only use 1 CP instead of 3.

>Now I actually have to think about tactics instead of just equipping them on every magos.

>>15778539

And heavy phosphorus blaster is my new favorite thing. Hits anything in 90 degree cone infront of user for 10 energy damage. Hit 4 necrons with it and knocked 2 of them out, good use of 4 CP.

>>15778427

Not to mention that regular Space Marines can be turned into Primaris via implantation of the relevent organs. Papa Smurf just got a new model where he’s been turned into a Primarine. This is troubling, because if Calgar gets the Primaris treatment, what’s to stop GW from doing it to other characters like Dante, or Azrael, or Logan Grimnar. Feels like GW is trying to shove Primaris down peoples throats like they did with Stormcast Eternals in Age of Sigmar

>>15778940

Except Primaris actually make sense. Bobby B is supposed to be the best human statesmen to have ever lived. He doesn't really excel at anything combat related like the other Primarchs he was designed to be a statesmen. Of course he would want to improve the Space Marines.

Honestly Bobby waking up is the best thing that could ever happen to the Imperium since he's literally the only human in existence suitable for the role of lord commander.

>>15737074

EVERYONE KNOWS DARK CRUSADE WAS THE BEST 40K GAME EVER!

>>15778976

What about Dorn?

Wouldn’t his autism for crusading and siegecraft be a shot in the arm for the Imperium? Honestly, any Primarch coming back would have been a major turning point, it’s just that Guilliman was the best at paperwork, as you said. Someone like Lion El’Jonson or Jaghatai Khan would have seen what the Imperium had become and immediately fucked off to go kill some shit to take their mind off of things. Guilliman is going to need more of his brothers to come back to the fight, because the traitor side of the family is slowly getting itself back on the offensive. With Magnus and Mortarion already having taken a swing at Roboute, and most of the rest close behind. We will probably be getting a model for Fulgrim or Angron next year, maybe both.

>>15778427

>Nigger Cawl and Bobby just rolled out a superior line of Space Marines.

They're still reusing tainted gene seed and essentially committing a repeat of what happened with the old legions.

>>15778940

>This is troubling, because if Calgar gets the Primaris treatment, what’s to stop GW from doing it to other characters like Dante, or Azrael, or Logan Grimnar.

<implying this is not the sole reason why they came up with the primaris marines in the first place.

Gotta come up with something better than just updated models if you want people to buy even more Space Marines.

>>15779085

The legions didn't fall to chaos because of their geneseed they fell because their Primarchs were corrupted mostly due to daddy problems and specific interpersonal situations the fact that there were a lot of loyalists who defected from their traitor chapters is proof of this. I mean fuck, Magnus didn't even want to turn to Chaos.

Hell even the Primarchs only fell to chaos because they were scattered across the Galaxy and thus had vastly different upbringings. And their Primarchs being scattered didn't effect the geneseed at all.

>>15779071

>Wouldn’t his autism for crusading and siegecraft be a shot in the arm for the Imperium?

It would help but he's autistic and not good at dealing with politics. He'd be a great warmaster though.

>Guilliman is going to need more of his brothers to come back to the fight, because the traitor side of the family is slowly getting itself back on the offensive.

I'm pretty fucking sure that GW plans for other primarchs to come back they'd be retarded not to. I mean the Lion is confirmed for being alive.

>with Magnus and Mortarion already having taken a swing at Roboute, and most of the rest close behind. We will probably be getting a model for Fulgrim or Angron next year, maybe both.

You forget that Fulgrim already tried to assassinate him and failed.

Also Magnus is trapped and basically a non-factor now.

>>15777906

Yeah, and thats causing general turmoil in mars that might lead to another civil war in the admech.

>>15779071

Rogal is best primarch, but his personality would make tje imperium hate him and fall into civil war, guilliman avoided that byr being charismatic and good at diplomacy, just like he got the eldar cease fire.

>>15778299

>Necrons don't get raped by demons in the warp

Sounds good, seeing as the setting doesn't really have a Heaven- technically the warp was until it got corrupted by murder and rape. Can the warp be purified with love?

>>15779048

They'll never willingly have sex with you so it's not like it matters.

>>15778124

>A fucking Death Star is far more valuable than some battleships and 1000 Space Marines.

No it isn't.

>I mean unless they pull an actual star wars and have two death stars

Of course there is, the Necrons have nothing impairing their production of apocalypse class weaponry besides the fact that's they're sleepy.

Since the world engine it was showed multiple time that necrons tomb worlds are basically all like that with the various parts of what makes "a city" once powered being in fact vehicles (Monolith->Tomb Ship->Megalith->Abattoir). All of which are impervious to pretty much anything save battleship on self-destruct ramming and can all solo kill entire worlds.

Worse Dynasts have been shown to teleport away from combat when in danger and just discard shit as Tomb ships because ultimately it's just equipment and they CAN ABSOLUTELY MAKE MORE OF THEM.

While the Imperium is in such sorry state it cannot afford to just ram battleships in every necron super-heavy/capital ship.

>>15780919

If Cawl really is a 10,000 year old hypergenius can't he at least distribute the knowledge to create Battleships again?

People really love wanking off Necrons as the ultimate unstoppable army if only they woke up but what they always fail to mention is that they're the only race in 40K incapable of reproduction. If a Necron tomb worlds gets conquered and their teleporters and repair machines get destroyed then the Necron race will never EVER be able to get those numbers back.

Meanwhile humanity has a million colonized worlds with quadrillions of people Hell a single hive world has more people than there are Tau in existence.

>>15781220

>If a Necron tomb worlds gets conquered and their teleporters and repair machines get destroyed then the Necron race will never EVER be able to get those numbers back.

Sure… except for the part where it's physically impossible because tomb complexes are just unbreakable to anything that won't destroy the planet (and will destroy the planet if the singularity/wormhole thing that they use to power pocket dimensions to teleport/save themselves is blown up) and a lot of important Imperial worlds seem built over them, especially forge worlds like Mars.

Not that the Imperium has a way of telling before they wake up anyway.

>>15780986

>If Cawl really is a 10,000 year old hypergenius can't he at least distribute the knowledge to create Battleships again?

Considering he just pull out NuMarines, NuPower Armor, NuPlamaWeapons, NuGravVehicles, NuDreadnought NuFlyers, out of his robes, of course he can, there is no reason he can't make battleships one handed in his spare time… but this is Matt Ward-tier of writing.

>>15781923

>Considering he just pull out NuMarines, NuPower Armor, NuPlamaWeapons, NuGravVehicles, NuDreadnought NuFlyers, out of his robes, of course he can, there is no reason he can't make battleships one handed in his spare time… but this is Matt Ward-tier of writing.

>Implying Cawl isn't one of the law Primarchs

>>15781923

>Sure… except for the part where it's physically impossible because tomb complexes are just unbreakable to anything that won't destroy the planet (and will destroy the planet if the singularity/wormhole thing that they use to power pocket dimensions to teleport/save themselves is blown up) and a lot of important Imperial worlds seem built over them, especially forge worlds like Mars.

Yeah but my point is that it's proven that the Imperium can beat them in combat and Necrons have no chance in a war of attrition because they're can't replenish their numbers. You also have to factor in that only the Necron aristocracy retained their self awareness and even many of those guys have gone insane. So you're fighting a race that's mostly retarded, who's rulership makes the inquisition look mentally stable, who can't mass their full strength due to the vast majority of them being asleep, who are completely incapable of replenishing their numbers. And even if they did all wake up they'd be politically divided into different dynasties instead of a single cohesive force.

Necrons are overrated, the nids are exponentially more of a threat.

>>15781974

>The aristocracy are a bunch of autists/retards ruling over a population of NPCs

So, jews?

>>15781974

>because they're can't replenish their numbers.

Except they totally can.

Parriah were a proof of that, not all necrons started as Necrontyr, they can totally just use humans or eldar and make them into more necrons if they want.

Only the aristocracy is irreplaceable and they have a considerable amount of safeties in place to prevent it from happening.

Anyone got a decent link to a collection of 40k ebooks, specifically audiobooks? Would be real good to have something decent to listen to while driving.

>>15784901

here is a link anon. Website has majority of the Audiobooks but you need account. Just make some disposable email and stuff and don't worry its all free

Link:

http://audiobookbay.nl/?s=warhammer