f01032 No.15726444
Haven't seen one in a while so I figured why not create one?
What games are you playing? Are you enjoying them? What do you like about them and what about them do you feel could be improved or better suit your tastes?
Similar 2D-styled games (like that Vagrant game or w/e it is) are also encouraged to be discussed.
Also please try to spoiler shit for those who haven't played these lovely games yet.
For my part I've played:
>Dragon's Crown
>Muramasa Rebirth
>Odin Sphere Leifthraisir
Looking forward to playing Grand Knight's History and Eventually GrimGrimoire, though I know next to nothing about either of them except for the latter being an RTS, and especially excited about 13 Sentinels, though I worry for its fate on the Vita. Sony needs to burn for this.
My thoughts on them based on what I've played of them thus far:
For Dragon's Crown I enjoyed what I played a pretty good amount (played the main story with the Amazon; didn't go completionist on it yet or anything with that very high-leveled requirement stuff such as repairing all the statues; only did 1 so far and stopped for the time being). The fanservice and exaggerated style were beautiful and great. Amazon's unarmed combat, especially when it came to her downward aerial attack… hoo boy.
The combat was slick and satisfying; it was quite a lot of fun to see how long I could keep myself in the air between dodges and aerial attacks and to keep combos going as long as humanly possible, juggling enemies was also a lot of fun as well as using powerful moves. The perk that makes you go stronger and faster the longer you keep your combo going absolutely helped this feeling very much, as you feel like a power-hungry maniac god that only craves destruction with how fast and how much you keep pummelling your opponents. The gameplay was far too much pure fun and that's great.
One thing I didn't like was as a general rule the power smash not feeling worthwhile to use due to how long it took to get your weapon back and how much more at risk you were without it, on top of you having to manually pick up your weapon from a specific location which could easily fuck with the flow of combat. I rarely bothered to use it as a result. Something that wasn't so much a gripe as it is just unusual is how much more powerful magical consumables such as rings were compared to shit like potions. I was having trouble with the final boss and I'd never used magical consumables for the whole game, but I finally caved and decided to incorporate it into my attack, and I beat it on my first try with most of my party still alive after it. The sheer difference in power was shocking and hilarious.
There was clearly a lot of love and effort put into this game. All the secret areas, little interactions like harassing townspeople getting you put in jail and whatnot, quests that somehow made the use of a 2D plane so effectively despite it seeming so limiting on a first glance. The animated CGs were absolutely stunning and were excellent little bonus rewards for quests that might otherwise have felt
Ironically though, I felt the story/plot and characters were a weaker part. The player character options didn't have much depth to them in terms of backstory or anything, which is fine since they're easily recognizable archetypes from shit that came from the days of D&D, old school RPGs and shit like Diablo and whatnot; it just would've been a bit nice to give them just a bit more personality than the very little explicit stuff they were given. Their designs told a lot of their story, and to their credit all their designs were excellent even including minor ones like the fairy and Rannie. I haven't done a full completionist on a character yet, so there's very likely more than I think; this is just from the from the standard main story rather than the postgame "main story" which seems quite significant.
I suppose that's just part of being a western-styled and western-based game, where its more focused on the world itself and the combined sum of its parts than to intensely give strong perspective from any single individual character, which is fine I guess.
Anyways that's enough autism for one OP, I'll probably continue this stream of autism later for the other games I've played as well, what are your own thoughts anons?
e0503a No.15726458
Grand Knight's History is quite fun, but severely hampered by the fact that half the shit is locked behind a dead online mode.
f01032 No.15726468
>>15726458
>but severely hampered by the fact that half the shit is locked behind a dead online mode.
Well that's worrying. Is it more postgame or additional content, or shit that you would expect in the main game?
I'd also be surprised a mod or a hack doesn't exist to allow you to play through it somehow if its barring you from some kind of content.
a67841 No.15726469
I just want to know if 13 Sentinels will continue their tradition of drawing amazing food.
f01032 No.15726505
>>15726469
It probably will; I'd be shocked if it didn't.
I wish I ate more in Muramasa for that reason, but you're literally only paying for the artwork since sit-down eating is almost useless afaik (though I was confused about how Spirit worked the whole time I was playing so maybe I was retarded and should have eaten more)
a2a411 No.15726511
>>15726444
>What games are you playing?
Not playing any at the moment, last time was a couple of Hard mode runs of Leifthrasir (these games really go ape shit on the higher difficulty settings).
Are you enjoying them?
Sunk a lot of hours into the ones I've played; DC is easily my favorite PS3 game.
What do you like about them and what about them do you feel could be improved or better suit your tastes?
It's been a while but I remember not being a fan of DC using the attack button for dashing and blocking. Overall, I think what they need is essentially more content.
>One thing I didn't like was as a general rule the power smash not feeling worthwhile
Depends. Double PS build is one of the best things for Dwarf.
>I felt the story/plot and characters were a weaker part.
It is. The character has no involvement and the NPCs don't have much going for them besides design.
>what are your own thoughts?
Still mad at Georgie boy over DC Pro.
Still waiting for them Muramasa Rebirth ports.
Don't think I'll be getting 13 Sentinels (if it ever comes out).
ae9ace No.15726539
The bunny people are cute. That's about the extent of my opinion.
a3ffcb No.15726545
Why do these faggots like to put their name on loading screens of the games?
bf8020 No.15726549
>>15726545
>Why do these faggots like to put their name on loading screens of the games?
>Games they made
I'm not sure what you expected anon
b1234d No.15726556
>>15726505
>That fairy ass
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e0503a No.15726562
>>15726468
You can play the online mode offline, but it's populated by shitty NPCs. The way it's intended to work is that you level your squires in the single player campaign/story mode
and after level 10 or so they are eligable for knighthood/"online" mode. You can have a shitload of knights, but only 4 squires at a time, so if you want to replace one of your
archers with a wizard, you got to dump him and grind your new character with no way of switching back if shit doesn't work out.
Also, you are hard-locked into one (1) save file, so no jumping around the different factions. I tried fiddling with it, but between the files in the mem-stick and loadstates, shit got wonky.
But maybe I'm just too retarded.
Anyway, there's a patched/translated .iso floating around, so I very much recommend you to just play through the campaign.
a3ffcb No.15726581
>>15726549
It's one thing to see it on some credits or at the splash screen. But constantly seeing it throughout the game throws me out mang.
4fb32e No.15726588
>>15726511
I hate that picture so much. It looks so fucking retarded.
140b47 No.15726650
>>15726588
It makes my dong expand, so it's not retarded.
4fb32e No.15726656
>>15726650
Then you're retarded too.
e0f1bd No.15726657
Can't wait for Cucklus to censor all their games thanks to Sony.
c66c61 No.15726660
>>15726444
any list of the best version of each vanillaware games?
b8d82d No.15726674
>>15726660
Usually their remakes are almost always better due to additional content, not changing the core in any way and if they do they provide an option to play the older version, and improved performance/resolution
Odin Sphere Leifthraisir is the best version of Odin Sphere, Muramasa Rebirth is the best version of Muramasa, dunno about Dragon's Crown Pro though, but I would assume its better though that one might've been more lower effort than the others due to how fast it was developed and pushed out
The others are single-platform only afaik, GrimGrimoire on the PS2, Grand Knight's History on the PSP, Kumantachi on the DS, and Princess Crown on the Saturn.
d2fb05 No.15726680
>>15726657
>posting that
would rather gore to be honest
c66c61 No.15726689
>>15726674
>dunno about Dragon's Crown Pro though
already got that one, to bad the online its on life support.
140b47 No.15726695
>>15726656
Nah, I just like gorgeous nuns.
446146 No.15726696
I already posted my sorceress images in the witch thread so I am gonna post my amazon here.
a2a411 No.15726708
>>15726657
Catherine Full Body comes out in Japan February [CURRENT YEAR +4]. We'll know by then if they're gonna cuck out or not.
Also, please spoiler that shit.
>>15726674
Pretty much this.
I think the only change DC Pro provides is the re-arranged OST, the only other plus is that it's the last build of a game that went through a lot of patching.
3ffd69 No.15726744
>>15726511
>Double PS build is one of the best things for Dwarf
>Double PS
How does that work out? He gets to use 2 PS's before losing control of his weapons or something? I don't know much about him or his playstyle.
>It's been a while but I remember not being a fan of DC using the attack button for dashing and blocking
Its kind of a funny trait that seems present in a lot of their games, putting so much emphasis on one button. I'm surprised at how much they managed to squeeze out of it, but it does feel limiting in terms of how many things one can do simultaneously.
>Overall, I think what they need is essentially more content.
What do you mean by more content? Just more postgame content period? Or…?
>Still mad at Georgie boy over DC Pro.
I think that was either an Atlus initiative pushed unto them to print more money, or Vanillaware securing funds while they develop 13 Sentinels, because of how out-of-nowhere it seemed to come.
>>15726562
Ah, that sounds like an annoying pain. Frequently managing shit like party members or items with heavily limited constraints isn't my definition of a fun time. Limited load states are also quite frustrating, but still I'm looking forward to it.
>>15726696
Bless you anon.
b2cfb8 No.15726750
>>15726660
>>15726674
Muramasa rebirth's combat is exactly the same as muramasa the demon blade, but it got 4 extra campaign DLCs where you play as a loli oni, a vengeful catgirl, a peasant farmer with a ghost wife and an edgy faggot ninja, it also got a complete retranslation that gets rid of the forced memes and unfunny cancer, everyone was speaking like zed kids even though the game is set in feudal japan, shit was almost NISA tier, it's still vanillaware's best game and even the cucked wii version is worth playing.
Odin sphere leifthrasir uses the muramasa engine, which means you can do crazy combos with every single character and completely shit on certain bosses thanks to the enhanced mobility most notably the three wizards and the cauldron, you will hardly use items now, even though they used to be crucial to handle crowds or get rid of certain annoying enemies like the slimes, the PS2 game is not worth playing unless you wanna check out just how mediocre the combat used to be, at least it had dual audio and looked gorgeous.
Dragon's crown pro is the exact same game but with "" remastered""" soundtrack and """4k""" graphics only notable if you have a soystation 4 pro and a 4k tv, either emulate it on pc or pirate it on vita, it doesn't matter, the ps4 port offers no new content because it was made to raise funds for their newest game.
Grim Grimoire hasn't gotten a port yet so go play the ps2 original, it's not a beat em up though, it's a RTS with tons of yuri and a story that makes no sense until the very end, mostly because the protagonist was relying on everyone thinking she was mildly retarded in order to ruse the villain.
There's also princess crown which looks and plays like a prototype odin sphere, someone's working on a translation for the saturn original but the psp port has more content and slightly touched up graphics, i played it way back then and gave up on the castle because i had no idea where to go.
d81cbc No.15726754
>>15726444
>Odin Sphere Leifthrasir
Probably the textbook example of a god-tier-remake. By Atlus nonetheless!
Original game had: Awesome visuals, grande story, top tier music, okay interface design, slow-ass progression system, okay combat with one single glaring mistake that totally threw off the flow of the combat
<tl;dr: You played the game DESPITE the gameplay
Remake: Left everything the way it was (visuals, music, story), revamped the interface a little more aesthetic, completely changed the progression system to be more fluent, fixed the combat by correcting that one mistake (e.g. they put in fucking custom command buttons like smash)
And to top it all off, for anybody who goes like BUT EVERYTHING WAS BETTER BACK THEN BAAW, they made a classic mode that leaves everything unchanged, because why not.
It superseedes the original game in nearly every possible way known to man.
Bonus points: The remake's name "Leifthrasir" is relevant to the game's setting and story.
IT'S LIKE GAME DEVS CAN LEARN FROM THEIR PAST MISTAKES!
2dee88 No.15726790
>>15726754
If dubs, Vanillaware will make a Golden Axe sequel
446146 No.15726799
>>15726790
One day anon, one day.
dba368 No.15726814
Has Vanillaware ever even made a good game? I tried both Muramasa and Dragon's Crown and they were both grindy low-quality-action garbage.
82c363 No.15726830
>>15726814
hang on anon, I think I've got just the game for you
Its not from Vanillaware but its far more acclaimed and beloved by faggots
I'm sure this one will have the kind of grinding and action you can tolerate
dba368 No.15726841
>>15726830
No thanks I like highquality action, not rummaging through menus. Does Vanillaware have any high-quality action games?
a2a411 No.15726850
>>15726744
>How does that work out?
Have two weapons equipped and swap them out as you PS two times in a row. Pretty good for those stationary bosses. My DORF! is more about throws and Hyakuretsu Ken though, not really viable but a lot of fun.
>What do you mean by more content?
For DC, a few more areas and classes (Cleric, Dark Elf and Barbarian ideally). What I thought Pro was going to be.
For Leifthrasir, the game is lacking a "strength character", someone to just brutalize everything into submission, the closest is Cornelius who's the most melee oriented but that's not even close. I think a playable Onyx would have been pretty cool.
>>15726754
It's funny how the starving artist studio of about 15 people can pull this off while dipshits like Capcom just slap "HD" in the title and call it a day.
This really is the golden standard for remakes. Closest I can think of is Yakuza Kiwami but that doesn't go that teeny extra mile of including the original to shut the usual complainers.
>>15726790
Dang it! Use repeating digit magic responsibly.
>>15726841
Odin Sphere Leifthrasir is basically 2D CUHRAYZEEE.
eca0af No.15726860
>>15726754
Not only it includes the classic mode, but it also has optional QOL improvements for it, if you wish to use them.
Overall however, there really is no point on trying Classic, unless you really wanna know how annoying it feels to run out of POW. I 100%'d the EUR PS2 version and did the same with Leifthrasir remake mode. Was so damn worth it. The tshirt is cool too
dba368 No.15726863
>>15726850
So you're saying that, unlike Dragon's Crown and Muramasa, Odin Sphere actually has quality action? I dunno anon, fool me twice shame on me; fool me thrice…
eca0af No.15726865
>>15726863
There's a demo of Leifthrasir for PS4, anon. Try it out and see for yourself.
f23dbb No.15726867
I loved Dragon's Crown.
We played local multiplayer, got all quests, restored the three statue, fought the secret boss.
Wish the game had:
- More unique weapons, currently everything is generic like Diablo 3 and Kid Icarus.
- Wizard and Sorceress only differ in some abilities: they should be completely different.
- Music is too bland.
- Dragon's Crown 2 never ever
>>15726814
If you're not trolling define what game has good action so we can select something according to your interests.
dba368 No.15726871
>>15726867
I'll stick to games sort of in the same vein as Vanillaware games I've played. Ninja Baseball Batman and Ninja Spirit have some nice action.
be1c14 No.15726877
>>15726863
Muramasa has "quality action"
You're just a dumbass faggot with no taste
dba368 No.15726880
>>15726877
You sure that's not just you?
50f114 No.15726881
>>15726867
We played local coop but seemed only one character got limit break after finishing last boss so we stopped playing.
be1c14 No.15726894
>>15726880
No, I enjoy games of quality.
82c363 No.15726918
>>15726880
Considering you're the only faggot in this thread who doesn't like the games you its most likely just you
>>15726871
How do you like Ninja Spirit but not Muramasa?
Almost defies logic, unless you hate the format of the battles in Muramasa that much more than the more "free-roaming" system of Ninja Spirit or the more "pure" arcade style of Ninja Baseball Batman, but its overall speed of combat and involved movement is much higher.
446146 No.15726922
>>15726867
>tfw no dark elf character ever.
dont know why they didn't make something new for it.
82c363 No.15726971
>>15726965
I love this shit but be careful about dumping too much in a short amount of time, it might attract a wild hotpocket/Mark
e0503a No.15726984
I really need to get my shit together and get my life on track 1337hax0r my Vita. I got the burger version of Muramasa Rebirth and bought the yuropoor DLC, expecting like a dumbass that this shit would fly.
>>15726971
He can't delet all of us.
82c363 No.15726994
>>15726984
hacking your vita is too easy these days, just watch skullator's videos if you need a retardproof super easy video guide by someone who did a lot of hacking instruction videos
unfortunately I've got a physical copy but I haven't bothered to check how to pirate DLC and attach it to a physical copy (if that's even possible)
a2a411 No.15727015
>>15726863
The game kinda works like Bayonetta, as you move through the level you'll have fights that are ranked and a a few scattered ones that aren't (basically opportunities to refill mana), there's a style meter that starts at S and automatically diminishes and you maintain it with all sorts of ways like combo count, number of skills used, no damage, time, overkilling a enemy etc. Skills are implemented pretty well - after unlocking, you assign them to a shortcut of your choosing, ranging from d-pad direction+button, analog direction+button and d-pad motion+button (usually half circles and quarter circles). This later thing is something I wish more action games had, a few specials to expand the pool of moves (the only other ones I can recall that do this somewhat significantly are DMC3-4, Onimusha 4 and maybe the Yakuza games but those tend to be situational or meter dependent).
eca0af No.15727395
>>15727015
Also the Tales series. The skill shortcut system with 'direction + button' is pretty much textbook Tales.
It works great - previously in the PS2 version you needed to select from a menu.
14f035 No.15727466
>>15726744
>How does that work out?
Double hammers, cocksucka!
b8e647 No.15728030
I wish these games had good gameplay.
446146 No.15728050
>>15728030
but they do have good gameplay.
357ae0 No.15728211
>>15728050
All that I played are brainless button mashers.
That include Odin's Sphere, both original and remix, Dragon's Crown and Muramasa.
I tried to play Princess Crown a bit and ended up progressing just mashing button as well.
Same for rip offs like Vagrant and Icey.
It just gets boring after a while.
3ffd69 No.15728227
>>15728211
>brainless button mashers
maybe if you play on lower difficulties. That's just not true on higher ones, where anyone with an actual brain should be playing.
50af6c No.15728231
>>15726754
>By Atlus nonetheless!
Published by Atlus. Not made by Atlus.
357ae0 No.15728233
>>15728227
Games with difficulty settings are not good by default. It's a red flag of devs that don't know how to design a game properly.
3ffd69 No.15728244
>>15728233
Not even going to begin to address the sheer absurdity of such a statement
9d38e4 No.15728259
>>15728233
I can't even think of a game with that style of combat that doesn't also have difficulty levels.
>>15728227
>That's just not true on higher ones
It's not brainless but you can easily get away with just spamming a handful of moves.
58c02b No.15728260
>>15726444
>What games are playing?
Not playing any at the moment, but a couple of months ago, I have played and finished Odin Sphere: Leifthraisir which is the first vanillaware game I've played.
>Are you enjoying them?
Loved every single bit of it, and everything from the artwork to the music makes it an excellent package. I'm still awed at how Odin Sphere's story can really stick to you.
>13 Sentinels
It's a shame there's no preview on the gameplay yet or another trailer with new footage, and I'm wondering how Vanillaware is going to handle with Soyny's soy filled policy.
306275 No.15728271
>>15726657
I'm pretty sure they'll move to PC if that is the case. Or, god forbid, Nintendo Switch. Fuck I want a Vanillaware 2D hand painted Metroid game.
27a310 No.15728277
>>15728233
>deliberately chose a difficulty meant for gay babies
>"The developers are bad for letting me choose this in a genre where literally every game ever made lets me choose this."
Nice.
50af6c No.15728291
>>15728260
>Odin Sphere: Leifthraisir which is the first vanillaware game I've played.
If you've got a Vita, Muramasa Rebirth is really good. Also an example of a developer actually making cost worthy DLC in the form of Genroku Legends. Though, Aksys (as NA publisher) seems to want to punish aftermarket purchases these days in no longer marking down the DLC itself in favor of doing so for the digital complete version instead, thus netting them more profit (shame there's no physical complete version, even as an import). And the Vita's piratable for anyhow, provided you have/get a system with hackable OFW.
>Giving Aksys money.
>I'm wondering how Vanillaware is going to handle with Soyny's soy filled policy.
Not like they're stuck with Sony, consider Muramasa was Wii first, and I know they've had a history with Sega (who admittedly don't own their own line of systems anymore) prior to GrimGrimoire. Granted, if they did go to Nintendo in light of how things are going, I'd still be worried about if NoA might try to enforce "standards" down the line. Even if they've been lax on third party published games of late, I'm sure they'd love to have the same power over everything Sony's American branch does these days.
828adc No.15728302
99027b No.15728303
>>15728233
typically it means that the devs accounted for various degrees of player skill. You can usually assume that normal is the intended design difficulty, easy is for people who keep dying, and hard is for experts or masochists who are unsatisfied with the challenge from normal
exceptions to this include Doom, in which the 2nd hardest difficulty, Ultra Violence, is considered the canon difficulty and everything below it is either easier enemy-wise or has a few niceties for convenience in the level architecture (one level in episode 1, for instance, has a light leading you to the exit on Hurt Me Plenty and below)
62a186 No.15728308
>>15726965
>the anemic thighs on the 2nd pic
c65345 No.15728330
388403 No.15728336
>>15728301
>drawing isn't mirror reflection of >>15728277
Disappointment
3ffd69 No.15728337
>>15728302
A different genre of game and a game who's difficulty is so grossly overrated by so many people that it has reached meme status, and one that also still has higher difficulty settings present in it; they're just all locked behind subsequent completions of the game instead of just giving the player a higher difficulty choice from the start.
The fact that it doesn't allow you to choose other NGs besides the one you're currently on after beating it once already is already pretty fucking stupid, beating it once should unlock all NG+ difficulties.
Dark Souls is also a very different genre of game entirely.
66a3bf No.15728380
>>15728211
Princess Crown will fuck you over if you spam, since Gradriel has a stamina bar that runs out pretty quickly that way. Early on you're just fighting weak shit so maybe you didn't notice.
ac129e No.15728397
>>15728336
I only posted it hoping someone would post this pic related in response to both of us
10334a No.15728418
>>15728337
And button mashing anime grindan is not overrated?
d983b2 No.15728456
Is there any word of Muramasa ports?
It's my understanding that the Vita version is much better, but I'm not going to buy a Vita for 1 game.
a2a411 No.15728716
>>15728543
>enter trial stage
>phoenix rider
>another phoenix rider
>It Ain't Me starts playing
This and the yetis railed me sideways uphill both ways in the snow on Hard mode.
50af6c No.15728718
>>15728716
Double Frost Ben with Oswald was fucking hell from what I recall.
a2a411 No.15728735
>>15728718
I remember restarting those fights so many times - the frost bens, the riders and even the slime kings. The whole thing was pretty much riding on the opening seconds, usually by getting the flame pillar on the right spot for the bens or getting both enemies in the whirlwind and a poise break for the others.
The slimes are pretty great for farming points (name eludes me atm) but Hard mode adds those goddamned evil eyes that can one-shot you, together with all the other shit that's happening on screen, it doesn't take much to take a stray shot.
But incidentally, kudos for the retry option, the game has a lot of these quality of life things that make those frustrating moments a lot more tolerable. Again, more shit other devs could learn from.
3ffd69 No.15728738
>>15728543
She was a bitch to figure out how to deal with, if only because of the sheer damage those attacks dealt.
50af6c No.15728749
>>15728735
Slime bosses also being one of the few places I still noticed some slowdown in Leifthrasir (PS3, anyhow), simply because of how many of the fuckers could be bouncing around or trying to fuse back together at once.
3ffd69 No.15728755
>>15728749
>Slime bosses
You just reminded me of those fucking flying eyeballs that would appear in that fight
They did so much fucking damage jesus fucking christ
They were far worse than the slimes themselves, a pure fucking sadist designed that fight
I don't know how I got past it at all
a2a411 No.15728775
>>15728738
>She was a bitch to figure out how to deal with
Particularly when she goes into full fuck you overdrive mode and starts spamming the fully invincible, half-the-screen's-sized hitbox, take-a-whole-week-to-finish OHKO phoenix tard rage dive.
3c0064 No.15729079
>>15726965
>third pic
I love the amazon so much.
>>15728233
>Games with difficulty settings are not good by default.
You don't play much strategy games, right?
5e428c No.15729155
>>15726511
>Not wearing clothing under chainmail
That's a good way to get irritated skin
618d37 No.15730424
Did any of you try to create Amazon in SC6? I heard you can do a pretty good job with its character editor
a2a411 No.15730495
>>15730424
Nah. Namco can go binge in the dick buffet as far as I'm concerned. That is a pretty well done Amazon for the most part though.
That said, my first playthrough of Dragon's Dogma was with a Arisen based on Amazon and the Pawn on Sorceress though those were more inspirations than recreations.
032345 No.15730519
>>15728716
Nothing that can't be solved with an inventory worth of high level Whirlwhind and Poison Gas.
82c363 No.15730542
>>15730519
>poison gas
>not toxin
Some of those potions were so fucking strong. Stack a few volcanos, toxins and whatnot and just watch bosses and/or masses of units' health bars get absolutely raped as they get sent flying
It was fun just to see how utterly powerful they could be
e88808 No.15730552
>>15730495
Anon, did you know, you can play games without having to buy them.
eca0af No.15730617
>>15728716
>>15728735
>>15728755
Frost Bens and Phoenix Riders were quite annoying indeed, but don't forget the dwarven airship. When it goes full lightning fuck-you mode shit just got wild. S-ranking it was a bitch. Still worth it though
Also, all of this is still complete baby tier in comparison to that Wizard fight as Velvet in the PS2 original. Holy fuck it was tough as nails.
82c363 No.15730696
>>15730424
Its decent but it definitely needs more meat on her in terms of thighs, arms and just more muscle in general, a bigger ass, and her hair should be less straight. Her face also looks a bit goth-like and too grim. Its also kind of small-feeling for some reason.
I hate streamers.
>>15730617
>Dwarven airship
FUCK THAT THING, ESPECIALLY ITS GODDAMN FLAMETHROWER
One funny thing is that I played with the english audio and the constant phrases of "here we go" and various gruff grunts of pain during that fight was quite hilarious.
I sort of wish I recorded my fights in some way. It would've been nice to see the amazing combos I pulled off in that game thanks in part to having played Muramasa and Dragon's Crown right before it.
eca0af No.15730723
>>15730696
Did you play on PS4? You can use the share button to save the last 5-60 (adjustable) mins of gameplay at any time. The quality is a bit lower compared to on-demand recorded gameplay, but it's good enough.
I saved a particuarly funny instance of a chicken getting glitchy when playing as Cornelius this way.
a2a411 No.15730736
>>15730519
I know, I always hoard Lv9 shit for those moments but again there's a element of luck to it, the Whirlwind is usually my opening move but it's gotta nail them both, it's gotta break their poise and it has to keep them there for full damage.
>>15730542
>volcano
Gotta admit I never got much mileage out of that one besides stacking them for leveling up and then turn them into Whirlwinds. The later and poison are the ones I use most but others had their uses - flame pillar rapes the shit out of the plant mini-boss, ice spirits is overall really good (for me it's essential for late game Hard mode Wagner where you have a gazillion coming for your ass), fire spirits is great against bosses you're usually very close to etc.
>>15730552
I know but SC6 rubbed me the wrong way with more than just the kikery.
>>15730617
>don't forget the dwarven airship
OK, now I'm getting 'nam flashbacks. This one was truly annoying because I'd be mostly forced to restart on the second half of the fight mostly thanks to the lightning shit but the flame thrower's a bitch too since it gets repaired halfway through. Another where my opening move is whirlwind and again, gotta place it perfectly so it doesn't stay in place when the airship darts off.
>>15730696
>spoiler
You monster! How can you ignore that AAA JP cast - Mamiko Noto, Norio Wakamoto, Shou Ayami, the guy who voices Yoshitsugu in Sengoku Basara who's name I can never remember etc?
>amazing combos
For me the three UNGA!s in Ragnanival and the slime kings are the ones to really go ape shit, with some luck (or just playing Mercedes) you can get that 999 combo.
But yeah, the game is frustrating at moments but then there's those times where you style the shit out of everyone and come out without a scratch. Again why I say the game is 2D CUHRAYZEEE because it's that exact same feeling I get when playing DMC or Bayo.
eca0af No.15730750
>>15730736
>2D CUHRAYZEE
Pretty much this. Cornelius's skills make me feel like I'm playing 2D Tales again.
Top CUHRAYZEE is still best girl Mercedes, however.
And yeah, second half of the airship was the worst. With the Bens or Phoenix riders you usually fuck up early, but against the airship you can start out strong and suddenly get mercilessly raped once it gets down to <50% health. Seeing it finally explode and crash brought me satisfaction beyond limits.
82c363 No.15730799
>>15730723
Nyet, I played on a Vita. Though that's a really nice feature. In a different world where Sony wasn't censoring, circumstances were different for me personally, and it had more games I cared about I might've ended up getting a PS4, maybe.
For various specific reasons I can't really buy non-handheld consoles for the foreseeable future. Its just my rather solid PC and handhelds for me.
>>15730736
Depending on how western-focused the work is and how good or bad the dub is, I can prefer dubs to subs at times. Both were actually good from what I tested of each, but I just felt like going with english audio since to me it just "fit" more with it to me.
>Again why I say the game is 2D CUHRAYZEEE because it's that exact same feeling I get when playing DMC or Bayo.
Its too satisfying of a feeling; I had it even stronger in Muramasa because of less reliances on things comparable to the special abilities in Odin Sphere. It feels like you "earn" it more when you keep striking them with such things; plus the movement was so well-fucking done in that game, especially the dash system.
I still loved it very much in Odin Sphere though, especially during aerial combos and because of how many forms a combo could take because of said specials (though sometimes they felt almost like a 'press button to brutally rape opponent's asshole' type thing, which can still be fun of course but that's something I would do less often personally)
Mercedes was sort of the odd-one out in that game. Outright broken once you get past the start if I'm being honest because the power of flight and long range is just too much. I didn't expect her to be fun for those reasons, but she ended up to be entertaining to play, especially with how satisfying her big bullets (Whatever they're called) and psyphers felt to use.
>>15730750
Cornelius as a fighter was just fucking hilarious
>that fucking aerial spin that would go on forever
>the fact that you could combo his side-drill psypher attack into it
>weaving in other attacks in between this shit to stay in the air if necessary
>you could basically juggle enemies for 2-4 screens worth or more if you did it right
God that was too satisfying and hilarious; as soon as you could launch a miniboss or even a boss into the air with that and get it going, it was just like a nonstop fucking train of pain. The aerial combos in that game were some of my favorite things to do, period.
On a somewhat related note, someone I feel I never unlocked potential for is Oswald with his berserker mode. Its so ridiculously fast and crazy that I didn't know what to do; its too hard to control. It felt like I would just sort of create this whirling circle of death, but it was sometimes hard to keep the combos going just because of how fucking fast he was and how hard it was to aim any of his attacks as a result. I sort of am tempted to see what a player who's mastered Oswald's berserker looks like, as that seems like it would be quite entertaining.
446146 No.15730821
>>15730799
>sample.
shamefur.
14f035 No.15730827
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15730696
Such a beautiful game.
You wouldn't happen to have a hq PDF of that artbook, now would you?
eca0af No.15730832
>>15730799
I got mine as a prize before this shit started. The latest Sony censor-fiasco has pushed me beyond the limit, and I can already see that PS5 is not going to interest me in the slightest. I'll be going back to PC master race soon, as well.
50af6c No.15730872
>>15730827
Not sure off the top of my head if it's in English or which particular print it's a rip from, but try the M-Z link here. >>15690673
9fadba No.15730878
>>15728738
The only really annoying attack is the volcano one where you have to run away and wait otherwise you get fucked hard.
82c363 No.15730883
>>15730872
Its in nipponese, but that is the artbook that that post referenced yes
thanks anon, I was looking for that too
a2a411 No.15730891
>>15730799
>Both were actually good from what I tested of each
Fair enough. The JP cast has a lot of favorites so I'm biased. That said, the one performance that IMO really makes a difference is King Valentine, the JP voice work really makes him sound old and decrepit while the EN voice he sounds like he's in his 30s. Also Velvet uses -'sama' when addressing Cornelius because bitch knows where her place is unlike Gwendolyn and her feminist bullshit. :^)
>Cornelius
My start with him was basically a recreation of the God Hand comic. "What the fuck? I don't wanna play as some gaywad rab-HOLY SHIT! I'M THE MOTHERFUCKIN' POOKA OF THE NORTH STAR, NIGGERS!"
>Oswald
I mostly just juggled with the kick and frenzy slash, usually open with Nightmare Blast to break poise and launch enemies. A thing I loved about Oswald was the sword toss, you hold the button and that shit stays in place spinning and then dart forward to grab it. Fuckin' stylish.
>>15730872
Now there's a gold mine if I ever saw one. Now I'm like the hyperventilating fat kid in the candy store and will probably pass out from excitement before I actually get something.
032345 No.15730896
Tree Fairy was too strong, I wish I could stay out of range and keep pew-pewing enemies with the other characters too.
RIP Yggdrasil and Frogbrother
82c363 No.15730928
>>15730891
I didn't get to the point of hearing King Valentine's voice in JP while I was checking the differences between them, but I loved his VA in english. He didn't sound very old, yes, but somehow his tone as an angry, brutal, crazed, ambitious and commanding king was still very much ingrained into his acting, and considering that he was undead rather than alive but elderly, it didn't bother me much given that he still put out a rousing performance. His spirit as a mad and terrifying king is still very much strong in the acting; in fact he was a contender for my favorite VA in the english bunch, though ironically he's barely credited or known for his work in that game.
Gwendolyn was a funny and strange character (though not in a good way at the start, more to laugh at her immense personality issues and feel angry when you realize how deep-seated they fucking were). At least she eventually learned to stop being such a fucking tool, literally and figuratively. That was nice.
I also felt very much the same way about Cornelius before I started with him as well. Thankfully that changed pretty damn quickly.
82c363 No.15730948
>>15730891
Yeah, I just listened to some King Valentine dialogue in the JP voices
Quality stuff, though it gives a more different vibe.
I can see both working though.
b4f8c0 No.15731016
I really wished they had done DLC for Dragon's Crown like they did for Muramasa Rebirth, giving you new characters with more maps. Hell, they could've used existing characters.
>rannie as thief/rogue, attacks fast but can't take a hit and low attack, and already has high natural adroit hands, item repair and deep pockets
>tiki either a joke strong character or assists rannie in his combos acting as a dual character; she has high magic and tiny hitbox but she goes down hard if someone hits her; rescuing fairies work as assists so it's a swarm of tiny fairies killing a lich or the ancient dragon
>milk jug maiden and father/son villagers as joke characters or now they're the ones selling you stuff because Morgan went on vacation
>samuel as a paladin
>princess as a magic knight, maybe introduce light magic
>dark elf more focused on magic than physical attacks compared to vanilla elf, but the mounts have additional attacks and can tank more hits before going paws up
>Playable skeletons and wood golem, now with added attacks
b4f8c0 No.15731030
What's your opinion on the Vagrant? I like it, it's a discount Vanillaware game so it works. Only real complaint would be the music, it's all over the place. If it were fantasy with some modern elements, I'd understand the need for metal music, bit then they also added EDM-ish music. The artwork is sometimes weird, some CGs are good but then others have weird faces or body proportions, and the conversations would've had more impact of the characters didn't just stand idly blurting their lines the majority of time.
That said, I like the gameplay, and a detail I liked is how when you're at stores and buy something, the people are almost kissing your ass, but if you don't, some of them insult you for being a poorfag, while others have more mild reactions. The gameplay is simple but fun, the girl reacts well, and the attacks have nice variety or can be used for different situations. I hate games that have very telegraphed obvious attacks, but some of the attacks from the bosses here are the opposite, so I end up getting hit.
eca0af No.15731055
>>15731030
Oh shit, anon. You just reminded me of that. I thought the project got frozen in time, but it's already out by now.
Seems the scope was pulled back though… The original project also had a cool wizard guy and best bear loli as playable characters.
093f3d No.15731090
>>15726556
Fairies are for being cute and innocent, not for perverted fantasies of dirty human men
50af6c No.15731586
>>15730928
I remember a fan-translator doing a review of Odin Sphere PS2 (including the script's accuracy and dub quality, the dual audio and full voicing making the former easy), and finding the localization to be amongst the best he'd seen at the time, even if the English voicing was a "Bleach Reunion" as he put it. Personally though I still like making use of the dual audio and playing with the JP dub, it being one of the few times Atlus actually went to the extra expense of including it. Actually makes me curious why they relented that one time back then.
>though ironically he's barely credited or known for his work in that game.
I did some looking out of curiosity, and went to wiki for a name after btva didn't provide credits for the character. Name set off the j-dar, but looking more, he seems to be some degree nog. Could be a niggerstien.
>Gwendolyn was a funny and strange character (though not in a good way at the start […]).
I felt that way about Oswald, who came off as a bit of a "milady" fedora tipper in Gwendolyn's book, until you finally get to his own book later and see that it's more a case of him going through similar abuses and being treated as not a person, but an object and weapon.
>>15731030
Was that that Chinese knockoff Vanillaware-esque game?
eca0af No.15731691
>>15731586
Perhaps because it was Vanillaware's request? Come to think of it, though - they also published Riviera on the PSP (in US) and put in dual audio as well. Guess they went out for it when publishing other devs' work.
50af6c No.15731794
>>15731691
>Guess they went out for it when publishing other devs' work.
Taking a quick look at JP/Dual Audio wiki, their only listed Dual Audio games there are Disgaea PS2 (NA version only), Odin Sphere/Leifthrasir, Dragon’s Crown (partial dual audio) and Persona 5, while Tears to Tiara II, Kenka Bancho: Badass Rumble, DT2, and Fate/Extra were Japanese audio only. Certainly more towards third party than games they're handling for their own Japanese branch, but not really that much. Like most companies, they tend towards English only when voicing is applicable, even for games/series where dual audio or even Japanese only would make sense (such as Persona being explicitly in Japan). Of course, that wiki might well be incomplete, seeing as it certainly doesn't mention Riviera, and you could be right that it's more an "on demand thing" (from the devs/prior publishers, not fans). But I'd think most of the Japanese rights holders wouldn't really care if we get stuck with only English audio, when western sales are merely considered a bonus on top of the native ones unless it's a really big, popular series, but even those have often been English only until recently (admittedly there's a storage size difference between eras to also factor).
eca0af No.15731926
>>15731794
There's such a wiki? Interesting.
NISA probably has the highest amount of dual audio releases considering their ps1/ps2 offerings, but then again it's NISA - they made the half-assed dub in Ar Tonelico 2 along with its buggy translation that needed a fix from the fans…
Xseed also gives dual audio options whenever it is possible, few games being exceptions (Trails), but a recent patch added dual audio for PC at least.
Atlus hasn't been dual-audio centric for Persona, though. Thankfully PS2 modding is easy and thanks to Henkaku, P4G can be undubbed too. P5 having dual audio was quite the shock, and I honestly doubt it was done only as an apology for the release delay… Sucks that it's a free DLC, though.
As for what you said about the JP rightsholders, Sega getting Atlus seems to be a win-win in the long run, considering how the latest SegaSammy Holdings release mentions the outstanding performance of P5 overseas, which also emphasizes one of the key reasons being the Atlus localization staff working on it. and I still laugh at all these SJWeebs complaining about P5 having a 'bad' translation.
50af6c No.15732091
>>15731926
Yeah, here.
http://japdualaudio-in-videogames.wikia.com/wiki/Japanese/Dual_audio_in_Japanese_video_games_Wiki
Also has pages for games that people ask about having dual audio that don't, as well as another for games with dual text. Differentiates between dual audio only being present for certain releases as well (usually PAL versions getting English only).
>NISA probably has the highest amount of dual audio releases considering their ps1/ps2 offerings, but then again it's NISA - they made the half-assed dub in Ar Tonelico 2 along with its buggy translation that needed a fix from the fans…
Their push for dual audio since Disgaea 2 PS2 is one of the few things to praise them on, but that doesn't make them a good company, nor can they even manage to do that right at times, as you said. Whoever it was at Sega or Red Entertainment (could have been NISA themselves, but I doubt they're that smart) forcing them to do a two disc release of Sakura Wars 5 after their audio excising from AT2 made a good call.
>Xseed also gives dual audio options whenever it is possible, few games being exceptions (Trails), but a recent patch added dual audio for PC at least.
Like Atlus, I wouldn't really say that. Notable exceptions listed being Akiba’s Trip: Undead and Undressed (being set in Japan, it was a good choice to get the licensing to), Corpse Party (JP audio only), Killer is Dead, and the Senrans (JP audio only). I know for Falcom games they’ve claimed that Falcom has had some clause that western versions cannot license the Japanese audio, but I’ve seen people dispute that as nothing but a lie, what with Aksys and NISA getting at it for Tokyo Xanadu and Ys VIII from what I’ve read. I do think I've seen something that the PS4 rereleases of Cold Steel I and II will be dual audio though, so I don't know what's up with that restriction anymore. They’ve been around since the mid-late PS2 era, so they’ve got a library where, assuming there was voicing in the first place, the vast bulk is English only (at least that makes some amount of sense for SH:FtNW though; half the game being set in the US, and the entire thing in the Americas).
>Sega
>win-win
For dual audio, maybe, considering they did so even for stuff like Sonic Adventure and Shadow the Hedgehog back when, and quickly learned a lesson when it came to Yakuza, and have kept it up for various games over the years (SRR of recent). But fuck how Atlus games have been inundated with DLC since they got bought by Sega
50af6c No.15732126
>>15732091
Oh, but credit where it's due to XSEED at least licensing various opening and credits themes for their western releases, like Justice to Believe, Crystal Letter, and Deep Forest even with their respective games being English dub only otherwise. Though, admittedly I'm sure exactly what their track record is overall on doing so.
eca0af No.15732270
>>15732091
Yeah, DLC craziness went to absurd levels. Not yet Bamco or Koei Tecmo tier, but still scummy.
791d5c No.15732295
>13 Sentinels delayed to "TBD"
>no more Vita version
Welp
f01032 No.15732303
>>15732295
Where's your source? I've never heard of such a thing, though them announcing it for this year was a bit foolhardy of them.
f01032 No.15732331
>>15732295
https://www.atlus.co.jp/news/10175/
>17 minutes ago
FUCK
THIS YEAR WAS THE FUCKING WORST IN A LONG FUCKING TIME FOR VIDYA, EVEN WORSE THAN 2016
FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK
WHY, WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY FUCKING DO THIS? HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE THEY?
THEIR INSTALL BASE FOR THE VITA IS AROUND THE SAME SIZE AS THE PS4, WHY WOULD THEY JUST CUT ALL THOSE POTENTIAL SALES OUT
WHY WOULD THEY DO SUCH A THING AT FUCKING ALL ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME AEIUFHEIUFISFJIWJFDIWOAFJOIWDFOWIDJOIWAJIDWJIADJAWJIDOJIAWDJIOWAIJDJAWIOD
FUCK SONY, ITS ALL THEIR FAULT WITH ALL THE BULLSHIT THEY'VE FUCKING PULLED HTIS FUCKING YEAR
>MOVE TO CALIFORNIA
>MASS-CENSOR A BUNCH OF FUCKING GAMES
>CANCEL VITA CART PRODUCTION IN THE WEST WHICH KILLED NEARLY ALL MOMENTUM FOR ANY POSSIBLE WESTERN RELEASES AFTER THAT
>TREAT THE VITA OVERALL LIKE SHIT
>ANNOUNCE THE CANCELLATION OF VITA PRODUCTION EVEN IN JAPAN FOR 2019, KILLING OFF EVEN MORE MOMENTUM AND DESIRE TO DEVELOP FOR THE PLATFORM IN ITS FINAL YEAR(S)
>(allegedly) HURT AND MOVE AWAY FROM THE VITA SO THEY COULD BOOST THEIR PS4 SALES
>WE CAN'T EVEN GET WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FUCKING SWAN SONG FOR THE FUCKING VITA ON IT, INSTEAD THE VITA'S LIFE WILL END WITH INDIE DOGSHIT AND CENSORED VNs IF THAT THANKS TO THEIR FUCKING RETARDATION
I'M FUCKING PISSED
50af6c No.15732354
>>15732331
Considering the fit western media pitched over Dragon's Crown, while I'm not sure 13 Sentinels would be apt to have as lewd of designs, maybe they ought to be considering options for release on another platform than the PS4, unless they want SCEA to run them through the censorship-ringer even in Japan (and lose them both their abroad and local consumerbases)?
As for the Vita itself, sadly a company admitting to fucking up on their own is seen as a weakness rather than sign of wanting to improve, thus in this case you get the years of doubling down from Sony, at least out here, of it not being a system with a market, even though it was their own actions that pretty much killed interest in it.
f01032 No.15732377
>>15732354
People have been aware for a long fucking time they've been practically sabotaging their own product as if they wanted to kill it off more than anything else.
Sony gave up on the Vita within the first 6 months of its life, and then paid it lip service for 3 years and fucked off forever, occasionally trying to kill it off with cancerous fucking decisions.
They won't release it on any platform besides PS4. Vanillaware hasn't had a non-Sony release in over a decade. Porting would cost even more time, resources and money at this stage in time, and the developers would have likely less if not no experience with either programming for, or porting to the Switch or the laughable PC industry in Japan. The Switch is its best chance but its not likely to get ported to On top of this, Atlus never does PC releases for any of their games ever. After Nintendo, they guard their games more zealously than anyone else.
God, I'm so fucking disgusted by this.
All I wanted from Sony this year was for them to not do anything like they usually do, but instead they just fucking turned off the Vita's life support and are taking a gigantic fucking shit over its currently dying body.
791d5c No.15732400
>>15732331
>>15732377
>Sony continues to make it really, really obvious to very large numbers of people that jews and shabbos goyim should be exterminated
>all of the actual video games move to Switch which is essentially a giant Vita (minus OLED)
Meh, I expected this. I'm only mildly nervous about the TBD somehow ending up as PS4 onry, else why delay at all? I'm sure Vanillaware sees the writing on the wall, it must have spread that Sony kikes are actually sending SJWs who don't speak nip to Japanese studios to censor things by now.
50af6c No.15732404
>>15732377
They're taking a shit over their recent eastern releases as a whole right now, right down to how even third party games are developed for native release. Wouldn't surprise me if SCEA starts forcing censorship patches to already released games that need "fixing." I can only hope some rich Nip that's a fan of those sort of games Sony's been destroying gets angry enough over it to try to put together a new company and vidya system that caters to likeminded people's interests. Doubt such would get a release in the west though (let alone a western branch that operates on a "no censorship" mindset); not like the media here would properly promote a system that they'd feel stands for everything they're against.
f01032 No.15732447
Fuck it
If any faggot even has a small hope their minds could be changed, send Atlus a message here and (politely) ask them to reconsider their decision:
https://pro.form-mailer.jp/fms/1246530f118006
Use jewgle translate if you must; I sent an english message and a google-translated one with it.
50af6c No.15732455
>>15732447
Should also put that in the next Vita thread someone makes. Current one's about at bump limit right now.
791d5c No.15732466
>>15732447
If they were just cancelling it for the West I'd do this, but to cancel it in Japan means either Sony is fucking with them or it's in development hell and the Vita will be deader than dead by the time it's out.
f01032 No.15732476
>>15732400
I don't like the Switch. Its not a dedicated handheld. Its a hybrid. Being "giant" isn't a good thing for handhelds. Plus its ergonomics, prices and a whole plethora of other shit are going to keep me from touching it for at least 3 years. The Vita and 3DS XL were already straddling the acceptable lines for the largest sizes a handheld could be, the Switch just took a fat-dude's cannonball into a kiddie pool.
Its almost certainly going to be PS4 only though, unless Atlus does something pretty much unprecedented for them and releases multiplat.
>>15732404
I wish Sega were back making hardware again. Fuck Sony.
>>15732466
Things in Japan aren't looking up for the Vita as a result of a lot that's happened this year. The Vita production announcement did something similar to what the cart announcement did here; the censorship also certainly doesn't help either. If its the latter, who knows, but I hope its not.
I would still encourage doing it if you could since things are still uncertain and it was just announced and if it gets released in the east on the Vita some modder/fanslator could get the PS4 translation for it and get it on to the Vitas here.
6c02e9 No.15732477
>>15732331
>>15732295
i hope to hell they port the game to pc after realizing sony is going to cut their game to pieces
f01032 No.15732484
>>15732477
its extremely unlikely. Atlus keeps their shit to consoles.
You could email them about it though if you wanted them to do that, always worth a try
50af6c No.15732490
>>15732476
>I wish Sega were back making hardware again. Fuck Sony.
Would be nice if they could be convinced to at least try another handheld rather than see Nintendo exclusively own that market (for whatever degree of handheld the switch really is), so long as they don't get a Stolar in charge of it, and there's no more venom between Sega of Japan and the western divisions.
7a1da6 No.15732620
>>15730872
>>15730827
The art books are on exhentai and you can use GIMP or any other image program to export it as a PDF if you need to.
82c363 No.15732669
>>15732620
Only one was there that I could see and it was low resolution
9841bc No.15732739
>>15726458
It seems like Grand Kingdom did the same shit too. (though Vanillaware didn't actually make that) I wish Vanillaware would make a single player Grand Knight's History. That would be great.
0f969f No.15732810
>>15732331
>wanted to import this one for one last game on my vita
>see this
I'm done with sony. In one generation they've set up the building blocks to destroy games more than microsoft and nintendo combined.
9841bc No.15732816
>>15732331
Not surprised even a little. Wish they would've changed it to Switch instead of continuing to release on Sony platforms. And I don't even own a Switch.
50af6c No.15732849
>>15732810
Biggest problem is that it's intentional now, not even just some boneheaded moves that maybe they'd see were mistakes. They don't seem to want the stigma of being friendly to fans of niche Japanese games, their developers, and the publishers that might want to release games as intact as possible, so they're actively doing their part to get them to leave of their own accord. It's a massive "fuck you" being implied without them even coming out and saying so directly.
>"Western fans want uncensored releases for lewd games and (some) publishers are willing? Fuck them."
>"The moonspeaking base can just import and fan-translations are a thing? Fuck the Japanese original releases and their fanbases too."
>"People still want the Vita as an option and script-rip patches are a thing? Fuck you, we don't want to support the system anymore, no alternatives for you."
Admittedly the latter might be more a decision Vanillaware or Atlus themselves have made than one Sony's pushed them toward, but it still feels like the entire thing is one big passive-aggressive bird being flipped. Western and eastern fans of niche games don't want to tolerate censorship, forcing it makes developers want to look elsewhere because why bother with it if it's not going to sell, and the dropped sales/preorders hurts the publishers that even considered picking the games up in the first place, as if punishment for their insolence. Sony wants a Western majority, weebfree library and audience by the PS5 debut? They might just get it.
In all seriousness though, has there ever been a vidya company that's pulled a purposeful "get the fuck out, you're not needed anymore" on a significant portion of their customerbase? Besides Konami, I mean (and even then I don't know if it compares because Konami doesn't have their own line of systems; Sony's decision impacting numerous companies as opposed to the damage being contained to one).
205e89 No.15732856
>>15732849
>has there ever been a vidya company that's pulled a purposeful "get the fuck out, you're not needed anymore" on a significant portion of their customerbase?
Nintendo of America?
50af6c No.15732871
>>15732856
I've seen people claim that they've been turning around of late, but I don't know how much faith to put in that, and I wouldn't trust them at this point regardless. They were certainly shitters during the bulk of the WiiU and 3DS eras (what does that even count as, Gen 7.5?). Part of why I haven't bothered with their systems after the Wii and DS. Not that they don't have a history of being censor happy clean back to the NES and internally against publishing games that aren't easy to sell. But I'm talking a company actually going out of the way to purge a good chunk of their base, loss of profits be damned, and not just in one region. NoA probably wishes they had as much control of NoJ, and the worldwide library on their line of systems as a whole, that Sony's western branches now have.
54aafc No.15732898
Serious talk: does the PSTV play games like a normal Vita would, because that's the cheapest way to play Muramasa Rebirth.
50af6c No.15732907
>>15732898
I think any game that doesn't require touch input should. But even though they did start to have the cover arts mention being compatible, obviously that doesn't help for knowing if games released prior to that were (Muramasa Rebirth for example). There's probably a list somewhere of what works natively, and it wouldn't surprise me if hackability has further increased the roster beyond what was intended, but I can't say for sure.
f7ecee No.15732909
>>15732331
Vita truly had a hard life
If anything that just means I couldnt care less about a 3.69+ hack between this and SCEA doing its darnest to censor nip games even for japanese players themselves. To give the middle finger to western weebs would be one thing (shit has become a routine at this point), but why they're willing to destroy the japanese domestic market for purely suicidal western political-driven reasons is simply out of my comprehension. Then again I've yet to understand the insanity of leftist/liberal parasites.
The Switch is certainly the best option for japanese devs now, but I would be cautious at the fact western parasites might try to subjugate NoJ, like they managed to to do with SCEJ.
>>15732898
It can play Vanillaware games fine, the PSTV just doesnt support touch-based games by default, and some earlier/launch games titles in the West arent supported (especially NISA-localized shit).
On topic, Odin's Sphere, Oboro Muramasa and Dragon's Crown were damn fine games and ports on Vita (Dragon's Crown still chugged during late-game but it was largely playable)
be1c14 No.15732919
>>15732898
it would be better than a Vita if all you wanted to do was play Vanillaware games considering you can play it on a monitor with a controller.
It runs them about the same as the Vita does too from what I read online
0f969f No.15732927
>>15732919
Unless you're playing something like Moe Chronicle the touch controls aren't that big a deal on the vita TV, at worst you can use a DS4 touch pad to get through it.
85d513 No.15732934
I wake up every day worried about 13 Sentinels.
I don't want it to be a visual novel style game with occasional gameplay and I really hope the gameplay is good like Muramasa, Dragon's Crown or Odin's Sphere remake. Though the glimpse we got looks like some kind of weird strategy game, if that's even a glimpse of gameplay at all.
And… I don't want the game to be censored to hell and back by Sony.
306275 No.15732944
>>15732849
We live in dark times where middleware lives or dies on preorders. Digital distribution is flooded with shitndie shovelware. Retail is restricting their shelf space to triple A games for the masses. Middleware lives or dies by their audiences or until their publisher screws them over. And now Sony is fucking the middleware audience by demanding censorship. Nintendo may not be the best alternative, PC is. However I understand Atlus's reluctance of publishing on Steam, a western owned platform.
SEGA might not even need to make a new console. SEGA could just make a storefront like Steam on PC for niche Japanese publishers to have a chance with a curated market free of western influence. This may have to come at the cost of console blacklisting though. But as far as nip devs are concerned consols are censorship.
205e89 No.15732968
>>15732871
Nah, they censored Smash for the sake of a single NeoNeogaf post.
a40cf9 No.15733164
>Cucklus
>Soyny
The future you chose
12ae10 No.15733191
50af6c No.15733197
>>15733191
Probably that "racist" feathernig Game and Watch attack, I'm guessing.
1762aa No.15733202
>>15732331
>(((PS QUADRUPLE))) ONRY
>get's censored to death
91f16d No.15733223
>>15733164
I want to lick the taco meat off Mistress PS4's tiddy.
f7ecee No.15733276
>>15733164
>implying I ever gave a shit about Sony besides SCEJ
also Vita-tan is cuter
>>15732968
>>15733191
https://archive.fo/WHoiN
Absolutely no idea if the nip version is affected and I'd like to know that just to get a proper idea if things are about to get dire over there at NoJ
7a1da6 No.15733288
>>15733276
I'm fairly sure Nintendo has a 'one world' version policy so all regions contain the same content. It seems the Japs will be affected as well.
4a9f44 No.15733297
>>15733276
autistic waifus are the best fetish
12ae10 No.15733512
>>15733276
>archive
Wow they actually caved and are removing it
Every day i want o be alive less and less.
e88808 No.15733539
>>15733276
Thanks anon, your doujin is the only happy thing in your whole post. fuck this gay world.
a2a411 No.15733604
>>15732295
Disappointing news but I don't think one can say its surprising given how Soyny's been treating the Vita like a ginger stepchild.
>>15732404
For me, the dream would be Sega making a comeback banding with other small nip devs like Atlus, Vanillaware, SNK, Arika, P* etc and make a oldschool system, none of this media center/faceberg shit.
>>15732466
>or it's in development hell
Likely is. Besides the Vita cancel, the news are also that the release date for PS4 went from 2018 to TBA.
>>15732909
>but why they're willing to destroy the japanese domestic market for purely suicidal western political-driven reasons is simply out of my comprehension
US branch is probably entirely in charge at this point.
>>15732968
This kinda shit makes me wonder if we can't get shit done by owning the label we're given. We, the actual loyal consumer base, get called entitled manbabies because companies rail us sideways with arbitrary bullshit. Meanwhile, these complete nobodies through a fit on the internet and companies bend over for them. Maybe we oughta start throwing chimp outs too. Yeah, I know it's pointless, this is all the workings of the Commiefornia soy mafia.
eca0af No.15733611
>>15733604
Sega owns Atlus now. Imagine the salt if Sega announced a new system then made Persona exclusive to it. Add a new JSR for good measure. I'd buy it
d7565a No.15733645
>>15726444
>What games are you playing?
Not much though I would like a game similar to hollow knight and shit recommend me some please
d7565a No.15733651
>>15733276
Double post because this requires a source and she's absolutely qt
7a1da6 No.15733653
>>15733651
Reverse image search faggot.
d7565a No.15733705
>>15733653
I found it, was hoping it'd be a series rather than porn
I'll save it for later
a2a411 No.15733764
>>15733611
I was a Sega kid from Mega Drive to Dreamcast so I'd be in as long as the line-up were good. But yeah, they could fuck Sony and Nintendo if they pulled stuff like Persona, SMT, Yakuza, Sanic etc as exclusives. Wouldn't be a hard fuck but I can see them at least getting all the weebs.
All wishful thinking and all this corporate strangling makes all the more wishful. I'm honestly curious to see what the boiling point will be, how much more meddling small devs will tolerate.
b2cfb8 No.15733779
>>15732898
Yes, even games like gravity rush which use gyro and touch controls can be played on a PSTV with CFW, but obviously you won't be able to get very far without an actual vita, it's still well worth it considering it outputs vita, psp, ps1, gba, snes, etc games through hdmi at 720p/1080i, can use DS3/DS4 controllers and it costs even less than something like a raspberry with retropi on it and a 8shitdo controller.
3ffd69 No.15733781
>>15733764
Hell, even if it was fucking crowdfunded I'd still go for it, its sure to have at least a dozen and a half to two dozen worthwhile games on it if it were ever to come out
a2a411 No.15733823
>>15733779
All this talk has me toying with the idea of getting that thing because Muramasa is one of those very few games where I feel I'm really missing out but knowing my luck, they'll probably announce the ports right after I cough the shekels.
>>15733781
Asking couldn't hurt but I think it would be shrugged off especially if directed at the western branches. They'd also probably waste a lot of time and money wining and dining potential partners, I imagine Atlus and VW is just a phone call away but others would be more complicated.
I guess the idea is letting them know consumers are not okay with the current state of affairs and, in turn, ask them if they are okay with getting raids from the Soystapo.
95aff3 No.15733858
>>15733611
Sega could come out of nowhere to win this console generation if they released a system now. Even if all they did was yank all the Fatlus stuff away from Sony and announce a new Sanic, they'd be off to a good start.
For maximum effect, they should:
>Have free online (since it's just gonna be P2P anyway).
>Have Jet Set Radio 3 as a launch title (and, if they can bribe Capcom, Power Stone 3).
>And speaking of 3's: no matter what the Sanic game they launch with actually IS, call it Sonic Adventure 3.
If they did these few simple things - and followed Nintendo's pattern of having somewhat underpowered, inexpensive hardware that it's easy to develop for - they could absolutely murder Sony.
b2cfb8 No.15733890
>>15733823
A PSTV costs about $50 and a second hand ps3 controller is like $10, you won't regret it, and i remember last year's black friday sales had tons of PSTV+DS3 bundles for $70 on walmart, and N3DS+some mario game for $100.
a2a411 No.15733939
>>15733858
>they could absolutely murder Sony
I wouldn't go that far since they'd keep the AAA shit normalfags love plus 3rd party devs that love kiking the shit out of consumers like Capcom but it could cripple them, steal that weeb niche that's not too big but certainly faithful. Though I lived those years it's kinda weird imagining going back to it, back when exclusives were the rule and not the exception. Back when each system was remarkably distinct.
>>15733890
I'll look into it but it's probably gonna be pricey since here in one of the provinces of the caliphate of Euroristan, vidya prices are borderline highway robbery (and I'm kinda broke atm).
On topic, as much as I love Georgie, would be nice if they made another game with Shigatake's style. Only one they did was Kumatanchi.
306275 No.15733966
>>15733858
What about an online store for PC instead to give Steam competition on the same platform. You have to download Epic Games and Origin launchers to play Fortnite and EA games on PC anyway. I'm sure most PC casuals are used multiple clients and store fronts by now. I don't see the point of a new console because it's another wall garden PC anyway. What PC needs is another competitive store front.
306275 No.15733991
Sage for double post, but this also just occurred to me. What about also releasing SEGA OS as a stand alone operating system for PCs for consumers to build their own SEGA consoles? In Japan these can be released as SEGA PCs with the hardware built in like a console. But for the west SEGA PCs can be released but also the OS can be installed for home built hardware.
e0f1bd No.15734012
>Actually thinking Sega can make a new console
Delusional
Sega Sammy has no money for that kind of investement and even if they did pandering to normalfags would be the key to see that investment mony back which would lead to the same exact problems we see on Soyny and Nintendon't nowadays.
This besides the fact that Sega has been third party for years and got out of near bankrupcy thanks to it, they'll never take that risk again.
You're seeing through rose tinted glasses and not approaching this realistically at all.
2b1986 No.15734025
>>15733966
Steam certainly does need competition, but I don't know if creating yet another rights-restricting storefront is the answer.
Also, gaming PCs are almost unheard of in Japan. It's surprising, but even in the present day, many Japanese households don't even have a computer - internet access is something you do from your phone, and games that can be played on PCs are mostly going to be fan-made things or simply the kind of stuff that couldn't be released on consoles (ie, hentai). Ergo, the PC market is a lot smaller.
>>15733939
Okay, perhaps murdering Sony is a bit too much to hope for, but they would certainly outpace them in Japan, which is what matters when it comes to uncensored weeb games.
And yes, it would actually be nice to have a system built almost entirely on exclusives again. That's a surefire path to success that Nintendo mastered with the Wii and then forgot about; everyone had "a PS3 and a Wii" or "a 360 and a Wii". Because it was inexpensive and DIFFERENT from the other consoles.
>>15734012
Valid point. Sega is just the only one with the brand recognition to really be able to pull off such a thing. I suppose it could also be accomplished if another company wanted to break into the market and paid Sega a boatload of money to use their name.
(This actually happened in Brazil. Also, had Microsoft actually had the brains to disguise the Xbox as a new Sega system, they might actually have succeeded instead of becoming an irrelevant third wheel that only Americans care about.)
45d959 No.15734034
>>15726588
It seems that Mr. 4fb32e is pleased also not with cleric.
The art of the directions which he likes was prepared.
306275 No.15734060
>>15734012
A new console is out of the question sure. And so is an OS obviously. The OS would be a Linux-based fan community project anyway most likely. That said, a new storefront wouldn't be too much work. This could be a dirty tactic but SEGA could simply have versions of games without Denuvo on their store while versions with Denuvo would be on Steam. Though I have no idea how licensing would work. I do know the storefront will not be always online to play outside online games. If SEGA were to compete as a platform holder again then they would do so as a digital storefront, not a console. They can still have multi-plat games on consoles. Those games can be linked with the SEGA account for an "enhanced experience" like achievement sharing on multiple platforms.
>>15734025
The storefront can be combined with the mobile app store so that both PC and mobile apps can be shopped in the same app either through PC or mobile. Though depending on what platform you're on the app will prioritize marketing PC or mobile but you can search all platforms regardless. A good storefront is fast, responsive, doesn't waste your time, and lets you find what you want quickly while giving you information on things you may be interested in on the side. Plus, unlike Steam, SEGA won't have as much competition for shovelware so smaller third party Japanese devs who don't want to publish on Steam at risk of censorship can sell in SEGA's store instead and still retain their own publishing rights.
0cf6ed No.15734072
>>15726754
I bought it on a whim when I found out they revamped the levelling system started playing the remake today.
I already had experience with the original – it was a terrible game in every way except for the visuals.
>use photons to grow the plants to eat the fruits to level up your character so you have enough HP to not die
>you need those same photons to level up your weapon or else you do no damage to anything
>you must balance these two well or grind stages to be able to proceed
Oblivion-tier levelling system right there, although not as bad.
Thankfully the remake fixes this and also adds spells and extra moves which weren't in the original.
If I remember well, equipment wasn't in it either, so that's a nice bonus too.
Overall, it's actually playable now, and it's a good game too.
Grand Knights History is similar – it looks nice, but isn't all that great.
A good portion of the game being behind some dumb online mode doesn't help it.
I also have Dragon's Crown which I'll probably play when I'm done with OS.
Gwendolyn is a cute girl, but book loli is the cutest.
6e0022 No.15734115
>>15734072
>this system is different so it's bad
>thank God I no longer have to split resources to upgrade 2 stats! now I can finally spend points in talents like in WOW
There is nothing wrong with the original Odin Sphere: you just drank up the koolaid from normalfags and their little reddit list of allowed opinions.
It is objectively a waste to turn a different game into a copycat of Muramasa.
0cf6ed No.15734160
>>15734115
I played the original years ago and dropped it because it felt like a chore to play after a while.
If you liked the way it played, good for you because you can still access that mode.
I'm not sure what the problem here is.
34a820 No.15734216
>>15733858
Wasn't microsoft developing jet set 3 and vanquish 2?
>>15734012
They don't need a new console, just a digital store ala steam, they can rack in millions just with proper sonic games, nevermind sequels to some of their "exclusive" games like dynamite headdy, jet set, outrun and valkyria chronicles.
3ffd69 No.15734239
>>15734216
Why would microsoft be developing either of those games?
a2a411 No.15734335
>>15733966
I might be completely wrong but looking at the attempts at alternatives to jewtube, patreon and twatter, I wonder if a potential new PC platform wouldn't have to deal with the local mafia as well.
>>15734012
That's why the ones humoring the idea bring it up as a sort of joint effort by small and mid-tier devs. But yeah, it's a fantasy nonetheless. I'm just wondering how much shit both devs and consumers are willing to take from platform holders be it Sony, Nintendo or Steam because they all have their share of shit it's just that Sony's been escalating theirs to absurdly draconic degrees.
>>15734034
Please don't bully Schreier, Kamitani-san. I'll do it for you by posting this pedo-pandering filth. Call the feds, Jason!
a2a411 No.15734451
Talk about Sony being absurdly draconian, this just in - VNs are banned. Plus, all communications go through the California branch (quelle motherfuckin' surprise!) and any complaints about censorship will be appraised by the ones doing the censorship. Genius!
Anyway, the proper topic is >>15734338
Sage for double-post.
e3ae68 No.15734687
>>15734335
I want those magic melons to take a seat on my face.
145e3f No.15734905
>>15734012
The other issue I have with this is that, while not as bad as other jap companies, SEGA is slowly starting to "alter" their games. The most recent one being the remaster of Yakuza 3 (the most worrying change being the removal of the tranny escape substories where you had to run away from a muscular tranny), with their reason for doing it was to be more acceptable for today's morals (as the morals in 2009 were different than they are now), showing that they are willing to censor themselves instead of being forced to (that or they are being forced to for the (((olympics))) ). Call me paranoid, but this is already looking like a slippery slope to more censorship down the road for sega.
That being said, they may listen to fans warning them not to go down this road, but if they're like any other company, they'll listen to SJWs and other (((pawns))) disguised as the voice of the people, they should be shunned like all the rest (which would suck for Vanillaware being a small dev company, but companies need to know that we won't stand for this censorship shit).
a2a411 No.15735028
>>15734687
Reported for expressing pedophilic thoughts.
>>15734905
Yeah, gotta admit that Yakuza 3 thing was eyebrow-raising. I'm also convinced something happened during the making of Kiwami 2 but I still haven't gathered the evidence and it's something similar - early trailers showed a ally Heat action that made the enemy get kissed by the okama bar owner but now it only triggers a generic weapon Heat attack animation. Either that got cut mid-development or was cut for the Western version but I haven't found footage of the JP version so I can't say for certain. Seems embarrassing situations with cross dressers are off the table now though it raises the question of who they don't want to offend.
As for receptiveness, they (Atlus and VW as well) are probably the most woke on the SJW problem - they now it's a paper tiger that if pandered to will only hurt them in the end.
306275 No.15738149
>>15734335
It's SEGA. But then again Steam hired the Firewatch devs so they could get Deplatform Hate to ban SEGA's store from PayPal if they want to. But then again SEGA is big enough that they would sue the shit out of PayPal if they did that.
05157b No.15738692
>>15735028
I wish there were more vanilla pornographic comics
a2a411 No.15738884
>>15735208
>bear doesn't shit in the woods
Immersion broken.
The spritework for this game is really quite something even if I got no clue what the actual game is meant to be and now I can't look at it without thinking of proto-Kemono Friends that, incidentally, is getting a game by Sega on the way - Kemono ga Gotoku/Yakuza Friends?
>>15738149
>It's SEGA.
You mean SEGA is the PC mafia of Japanese devs?
>>15738692
There's a ton for DC, besides NieR Automata I don't think any other recent vidya IP got as much love from artists. Others could certainly use more attention though I like softcore/ecchi more than straight up porn. In any case, the Muramasa part of my VW collection is pretty anemic, the OS one can't even be called a collection and the GG one is practically non-existent.
306275 No.15739079
>>15738884
SEGA I'm sure is the Yakuza. I rushed when I wrote that. If PayPal and the social media sites choose to dehost SEGA and their store then SEGA will make their lives hell. SEGA would be too big to ban from the internet. And if Steam is in bed with "change the terms" then SEGA can make their own store that has a different TOS for nip devs. At least for Japan.
34ab97 No.15741171
>>15733276
>mario is not at all an italian stereotype in recent days
he still has a dumb accent despite Martinent getting older and older and still does "mama mia" even to this day
why do they blatantly lie?
9fd28e No.15741271
>>15741171
That's the magic of mental gymnastics. The fact that Mario and Luigi end every other word in "-a" is stereotypical and that goes right out the window since it's not an indian stereotype.
f01032 No.15744262
Time to continue my autism stream. Since there's not much talk about Muramasa, I'll give my thoughts on it.
Honestly, it might be my favorite out of the Vanillaware games, one of the reasons being pic-related (quote from the legendary trio of OG Persona developers).
The game has such an undeniable soul to it that I cant help but really love it. The people who worked on this game really took their time to delve into history and mythology but also conveys it in such a powerful and compelling way, not a dry or detached one like you might typically see in an RTS. The dialogue and characters are irresistibly compelling and fascinating. I feel like I genuinely learned some things about Japanese culture, concepts and values (or at least their older ones) from this game and gained insights I didn't normally have before, like for example the viewing of buddhism and deities by many in history in Japan. Of course, this is a strange sort of tangent and thing to be talking about, and it sounds strange when I say it like this, but anyone who plays it will probably know what I am talking about. It is such a cultured game. The characters are so complex that you don't know how to feel about them (but you'll probably end up liking or at least being intrigued by most of them). Momohime and Jinkuro's relationship is so strange but kinda hilarious at times to see.
The gameplay is of course, fucking great. The dash system, the blade switching and special mechanics, the feel of different blades and the overall speed and pacing of combat along with the satisfaction of aerial combat combined with the ability to literally dash circles and run through enemy like they're butter in an unending combo is immensely satisfying. It gave a different vibe in Odin Sphere, but I preferred it in Muramasa where it feels like you had so much more control, and it felt so… "restrained" by comparison, but it felt like it was more "action-dense" by doing so if that makes sense. Its hard to explain. I also liked the food system, though for me I rarely ever used any items besides food or tablets. I played on the hardest default difficulty which was decently challenging I guess, but overall I rarely died or lost, and almost never did in the Kisuke arc, though if that was because of difficulty or because I had just improved that much over the Momohime arc, I don't know. I'd like to attribute it to the latter. i didn't try it on the extra-difficult setting you unlock from beating the game, though I'm curious to see how that would go.
One of the ways I wish this game and really more games in general handled the sort of "harder difficulties being unlocked" is more of the story's content being unlocked. Sure the true ending and other endings are good and all, but if the journey isn't different or more isn't realized throughout it, it feels almost pointless to go through it outside of seeing if the gameplay is more fun with the increased difficulty. I wish it were done like Fire Emblem 7's difficulty settings where you can get significantly new insight on the story, different maps or at least different enemies, locations, and necessary strategies, different characters and overall new additional and possibly some secret content and insight along with a logical and satisfying conclusion. Though I don't know how much the story changes outside of the true ending in the new difficulty modes if at all, this is just an assumption based on what I've seen about it; I hope that actually is the case for this game.
The artstyle is so fucking good as usual for Vanillaware games, but for this game in particular its so styled and perfect for what it aims to do. These Japanese monsters from mythology are brought out so viscerally that you can't help but marvel at it.
On a side note, why are jewtubers so fucking bad at games? I wanted to try and find a nice little gameplay webm or gif to post with this but these fags are so incompetent and boring that it makes it fucking impossible.
a2a411 No.15744380
>>15739079
>SEGA I'm sure is the Yakuza
Bearing in mind the Yakuza games always have a shitload of pornstar cameos and that industry is entirely controlled by the yakuza, I wouldn't be surprised if they do have those ties.
>SanFran Soyny inspectors show up at Sega's office
>walk in acting like pricks talking down to everyone
>prick inspectors hear some mumbling and prepare to give a lecture to the disruptive shitlords
>the noisy posse that was until now just chilling in the lounge area glance back and slowly get up
>gang of angry manlets in tacky suits walk menacingly
>prick inspectors start to go limp
>[INCOMPREHENSIBLE ANGRY JAPANESE SHOUTING]
>inspectors are totally surrounded and can't move
>Essence of Chair Smashing immediately comboed into Essence of Defenestration
>drag the female inspector by the hair into the back room and force her to star in a porno just out of habit
Ya know, maybe the yakuza will save us from the Soystapo.
>>15744262
>It is such a cultured game.
Tokugawa is a mutt and they're not afraid to say it.
>harder difficulties
Doesn't it change enemy placements like OS? I remember that one giving me a bit of a scare when I saw those freakin' knife ear paladins right at the start of the game.
C'mon, Georgie. Announce the port already. It's my b-day wish.
f01032 No.15744504
>>15744380
Happy birthday anon.
7a1da6 No.15745654
>>15744380
>leak of Yakuza 7 plot
0db452 No.15746655
Do they make any games that aren't Dragon's Crown or Dragon's Crown-esque?
ff8780 No.15746803
>>15745654
Could you please provide source for the image? I have tried Google, IQDB and SauceNao.
75c53a No.15747040
I stopped playing Dragon's crown because of the customisation options. I'm too scared of picking a useless skill and fucking up my build.
I might give it another try… Which character is the most fun to play solo and what build should I go for?
446146 No.15747074
>>15747040
Nigga please. dont be a bitch and just take whatever skills you want. Dwarf is strongest.
7a1da6 No.15747252
>>15746803
exhentai.org/g/1128389/f30bfaf19c/
0d8a91 No.15747534
>>15732295
It saddens the fuck out of me. 13 Sentinels was going to be the glorious death that the Vita deserved.
FUCK SONY
00a2f0 No.15747599
>>15747288
ipretty sure that is from the sole vanilla tank that guy did. Everything else though? Pure garbage.
6c02e9 No.15747609
>>15747040
you can respec
the only thing you can't revert is inventory but it doesn't matter, if you want hp recovery do not invest into hp per coin that's retarded, go for increasing food recovery since eating an apple can heal half your hp and overheal you too
4c1239 No.15747624
All things considered, Dragon's Crown is a very short and limited game. Getting to the end in just a few hours is soul crushing, more when you realize several classes are paintjobs. I would argue that even Shadows over Mystara has more finesse and replayability behind it.
4c1239 No.15747627
>>15747040
Pick dwarf and play the campaign in couch coop. It takes an afternoon to beat.
a2a411 No.15747968
>>15747040
Builds only really matter on Infernal difficulty which really lives up to its name. Dwarf is pretty fun for solo play especially if go for a grab build and make the most of the giant rocks laying around, one of my favorite things is toss it in a straight line in mid-air then jump again to catch it as it ricochets off a wall and throw it again. Also important to note that he can only grab bigger enemies if they're petrified (maybe stunned too but I'm not sure of this last one).
spin2win ZON is also a lot of fun and if you're good at parrying, you can make a interesting build centered around that.
Lastly, a shank Elf can be pretty fun too if you max item durability and capacity since you really need to learn how to manage inventory with her.
The magic users I think are more fun in co-op but some might argue that Wizard is the strongest character mostly thanks to spell combos like slow+fire fountain. Had a friend who played him and we both did about 500 floors of the tower in Infernal difficulty, the dps he could dish was absurd.
fa3fde No.15748020
I really should go back and finish Muramasa. I got stuck on the final boss of Momohime and sort of left it. I was able to cheese Kisuke's final boss using spin2win on one of his swords but I don't think I found an equivalent for Momohime.
Anyhow I just got Odin Sphere and I thought it was going to be one of those choose your character dealies but it's not. When do I get to play the semen demon witch chick?
a2a411 No.15748039
>>15748020
>When do I get to play the semen demon witch chick?
Oh boy…no easy way to say it - she's the last one.
fa3fde No.15748076
>>15748039
May as well just kill myself now then
1f393f No.15748118
>>15748076
lmao enjoy having fun on your way there, dweeb
1cefd4 No.15748130
Nobody ever talks about grand knights history. ;_;
1f393f No.15748202
>>15748130
I never noticed the golem's fists were actually ram heads.
a2a411 No.15748298
>>15748076
I dare you to go through Cornelius' chapter without having fun.
>>15748130
All I know of it is it had some witch chick with a owl and a bangin' set of knockers and there's no good smut of her.
66a3bf No.15748326
>>15748130
It was mentioned earlier. As >>15726562 points out, there's little to talk about since the game is primarily multiplayer and the multiplayer is long dead. Nice designs though.
ff8780 No.15750038
>>15747252
A true patrician, thank you.
45524e No.15750388
>>15747968
He can grab them if they are stunned.
50af6c No.15750511
>>15748130
Being a game that had to be fan-translated, and not a high profile one, tends to do that. Despite being in English afterward, and obviously imageboards being prone to emulation and piracy, most fan-translated games remain underplayed, especially in the broader web that is more prone to consider emulation a grey area. There's also the aforementioned issue of a good bit of the game being locked to a now dead online, which probably doesn't help generate interest.
afeca3 No.15756086
>>15748076
Meh. Could be worse. At least you'll have fun along the way.
2dd69b No.15757189
>>15748130
There's very few things to do in Grand Knights History, without the multiplayer component. The first area serves as a tutorial and comes with a story, but it's brief: all the remains afterward is to grind a few identical missions to train troops that you were supposed to bring online. But it's basically an afterthought to do something during server maintenance, not really a campaign or even a list of side missions.
db71e7 No.15761879
D-doesn't anyone still want to talk about pretty 2D games?
0cf6ed No.15761981
>>15748298
>I dare you to go through Cornelius' chapter without having fun
Funny, that's where I'm at right now and is also the chapter at which I quit the first time when I played it years ago.
To be fair, I think I got burned out that time, so I've been taking it really easy now.
Also, while the game is good, I wonder if I should turn the difficulty up to expert.
The Gwendolyn chapter was mostly a breeze although some fights gave me a hard time when I tried to S-rank them.
I fear it might just turn into an unfun, hair-pulling grind.
Very few games have good difficulty settings. It either gets too easy or ridiculously frustrating.
Finally, since all other major characters were introduced in Gwendolyn's portion of the story, I really have to wonder why Cornelius was left out.
>>15748130
I played it for a bit.
The art, music and combat are pretty good, but I think that the lack of dedicated story characters as units hurts it.
It's also a fantastic example along with games like Demon's Souls on why you should never have single and multiplayer components of a game intertwined.
But at least playing DeS without the online isn't completely pointless.
a2a411 No.15762105
>>15761879
I'm not playing any at the moment so I don't really have anything substantial to say. This talk did get me in the mood to go back to Dragon's Crown once I'm done with Fist of the North Star
>>15761981
>I wonder if I should turn the difficulty up to expert.
IIRC just turning it up to hard will change things significantly. Dunno why but Vanillaware goes ape shit with higher difficulties, DC's Infernal per instances, is bonkers - I only cleared that campaign once on co-op, they did some really interesting shit and gave almost every enemy new moves while using pre-existing assets and in the end result was bosses turning a 180º and the ones who used to be pushovers are now the hardest (Medusa, Golem and the Doom Beetle come to mind).
>DeS without the online isn't completely pointless
I got the game very late so I mostly played it without ever running into anyone (most of the activity was during the last month, unsurprisingly) and it was still pretty fun. Has a lot of limitations but it's daring in its "FUN ALLOWED" approach and the presentation is still top notch that it aged well.
7aba23 No.15762249
>>15761981
> unfun, hair-pulling grind.
I faintly remember dumping all my cheap resources into a screen full of grilled chicken and than using a Naturalize lv.9 potion to farm phozons. Wasn't too bad.
7aba23 No.15762263
>than
Also, bully my retarded ass, I guess.
a2a411 No.15762324
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15762263
It happens, no worries.
To make for a bit of discussion, VW is always all about the visuals but what about the sounds? What do you think of their OSTs? Personally I find most to be on the forgettable side, particularly Dragon's Crown; Odin Sphere has a few memorable tracks and, IMHO their best work is in Oboro Muramasa, even if I haven't played the game, I love that OST.
db71e7 No.15764314
I need more big vanillaware girls
852c3f No.15764413
whats the hardest vanillaware game??
I tried Dragons Crown/Muramasa/Odin Sphere and they all seem relatively mild, you can just spam shit mindlessly and win
db71e7 No.15764574
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0cf6ed No.15764930
>>15762105
>>15762249
>increase the difficulty
>enemies do a bit more damage
>S-ranking isn't any harder from before
Maybe it's too early to tell and the pounding has yet to begin, I just left the forest.
I think the bosses have more moves and might be using items more often though.
>I got the game very late so I mostly played it without ever running into anyone
>tfw I got it last week
>tfw I will never experience the online
Oh well.
>>15764314
But do they have lolis?
a2a411 No.15766199
>>15764930
>Maybe it's too early to tell
Didn't Hard mode replace enemies with their higher tier versions? Maybe I'm thinking of the next setting, that I'm sure places fairy paladins right at the start.
>Oh well.
It's a shame because of the 3-3 boss but, overall, the feeling of missing out depends on how much mileage you'd get out of a completely broken PvP system.
>But do they have lolis?
I think a good chunk of the Grim Grimoire cast fits that bill. Most are NPCs like Alice in OS and IIRC OM has a loli boss. Playable ones, there's Mercedes maybe, she's a gorillion years old, and Rajyaki in the last Muramasa DLC that's defaulted to a loli form but can turn adult and giga fbb demon form.
a2a411 No.15772880
>>15772669
And then zunta got the contract to make the official Dragon's Crown manga.
afeca3 No.15776233
>>15730821
George Kamitani is an art god. I wish I was 1/256th as talented as him.
446146 No.15777353
>>15772880
There is an official manga?
afeca3 No.15784358
So I've been playing Muramasa: The Demon Blade on Dolphin for the first time and honestly it's really good. It reminds me of DmC(the original) , but with 2D graphics (so like Viewtiful Joe) and RPG mechanics.The art direction is fantastic, the music is phenomenal. My only real gripe are the monks in the game, especially when you take on more than 3 or 4. I tried the first bonus challenge you come across as Momohime and even at level 43, I still can't beat it because fucking monks just pile on me and give me a bukkake of pain, whereas doing the first bonus challenge with Kisuke and the 100 ninjas was moderately difficult, but I was able to do it in 1 try at level 10 or 11. Otherwise, I love this game. Are the other Vanillaware games like this or is Dragon's Crown and Odin Sphere more like a traditional beat em' up like the Capcom D&D games? I know GrimGrimoire is an RTS and I'll get to playing that after I configure PCSX2 properly and finish Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen. I just want input from people that played either of those games at all.
137278 No.15784381
>>15784358
The Odin Sphere remake is more similar to Muramasa than Dragon's Crown, but they're both exceptional.
2b9449 No.15784384
>>15777366
>>15772669
>unbirthing without stomach deformation
37917b No.15784543
>>15726556
A lad of culture.
95384a No.15784580
>>15733164
>Gaf blindly loves the PS4
do people here actually brows neoFAG?
and if you do, you need to go back and stay there forever
34ab97 No.15787191
>>15784580
gaf in it's hayday being accused of being full of Sony shills has been a thing forever man
ce9979 No.15788282
>>15784580
Felt inspired, so have some 3D conversions of the first pic. One for red/cyan glasses, and one crosseyed.
61f2d6 No.15788310
>>15784580
People used to mine gaf for lol threads, and there were rich veins of lol in there to be sure.
>>15787191
gaf was Sony shills. At least one member of their mod-team was outed as being on a Sony payroll at one point IIRC.
31338f No.15792392
NIS is doing a fan survey about bringing back old franchises, Grim Grimoire is listed so do your part.
https://ssl.nippon1.co.jp/enq/index.php/979381/lang-en
f01032 No.15792853
>>15792392
>announcing that you pirate their products to their face
you could've just said you didn't buy them
Also thanks for the survey
>Nippon.co.jp
Huh, didn't expect the japanese side to give an english survey. Anyways I put it down
d28604 No.15792906
Question about Muramasa for the Vita. Played the Wii version a lot years ago and wouldn't mind going through it again but with the DLC missions. But does the Vita version make blocking a dedicated button or is it still "hold attack to block"?
>>15784387
Got a sauce for this panel?
a2a411 No.15793066
>>15792392
>so do your part
No Muramasa, no part doing. Also, I think the second page is the criteria from which they're gonna decide which surveys are worth paying attention to, never play a Disgaea and that's not gonna change. Half my freakin' answers were going to be "N/A" so I quit.
f01032 No.15793075
>>15793066
NIS/A had nothing to do with Muramasa though. The only title they ever published of Vanillaware's was GrimGrimoire
a2a411 No.15793144
>>15793075
I was under the impression they did the godawful localization of the first game. Seems it was a different pack of cretins.
Re-thinking it, I guess I should be aware of what I'm asking for, the goddamned Soystapo would probably muck it all up. They can still port it to PC but I'll need a new toaster, mine's been on the edge for quite a while now.
e1ff97 No.15793210
>>15726657
I keep hoping Atlus will see the writing on the wall and move on. I know they're scared of putting their games on PC though.
No way Sony doesn't listen to Kotaku (et al) if they decide the next game they make is "designed by 13 year old boys" though.
50d7ed No.15793237
>>15792906
It's still hold attack by default but you can change the buttons in the vita version.
a2a411 No.15793335
>>15793210
I could swear it's been proven that Soyny people are part of the Gaf/Era community. That's why those retards hold the sway they do.
31338f No.15802890
>>15793075
NISA Europe handled European publishing for Muramasa Rebirth and Odin Sphere Leifthrasir.
ead5d8 No.15802938
>>15802890
Wouldn't it be NISE, then?
3ffd69 No.15803025
>>15802938
Nope. Their actual name is NISA Europe. I know, its retarded.
3ffd69 No.15803033
>>15802890
That was only distribution essentially, Atlus allowed them to do that and then for whatever reason they cut them off
3ffd69 No.15812019
I wish the Vita versions/limited editions of their games came with the artbooks, or maybe it was just the western ones that didn't get it.
Pretty fucking annoying
afeca3 No.15818072
I never got why people hated the fact that Kamitani likes drawing busty/thick-thighed women, especially when they are objectively drawn well. I mean, if they were drawn terribly, I would get it since it's shitty art. But literally this isn't even close to being bad at all. They are highly detailed and while they aren't realistic in proportions (really in respect to their limbs and the same criticism goes for the male characters too almost double in a lot of cases. I've seen huge hulking knights with HUGE ARMS and average sized legs. What's up with that?) , complements the artistic backdrop of the setting and very competent knowledge in the color wheel just due the way they're stylized. Plus, the level of detail on the body features is pretty amazing. I can honestly forgive the lack of realism because it goes for an actual unique style that I don't think anyone has tried out before and it complements the fairytale-like nature of the games, which is better than the faux-realism schtick that the modern industry has sunk too, where all artists try to have similar styles and don't stand out from one another or the tumblr crown, which we all know about.
f01032 No.15825484
>>15818072
funnily enough I think his Dragon's Crown characters were the least stylized compared to the others, or maybe that's just their very nice and distributed proportions and not-awkward heights and lengths compared to his other games' artoworks talking.
"Fairytale-like" nature really fits Odin Sphere's art direction perfectly, the stylization of the average size and feeling of those characters, it was quite… strange, like I was looking at SMT monsters or something. It took a little bit of time getting used to it, and I didn't like it at first but over time I eventually grew fond of it. That's a good word for describing it.
Muramasa gives me a strong vibe of studio ghibli mixed with even older influences. Its funny how he built such a Japanese work and avoided contemporary anime styles. I think 13 Sentinels would probably have ended up being closest to the contemporary "anime" style that we'll end up seeing from him, and even then its fantastic and still so fitting.
36d695 No.15825545
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f01032 No.15825583
>>15825545
fuck that's good
50af6c No.15825949
>>15818072
Friend of mine's similar, and used to be put off by the stylized proportions (as opposed to the tits and ass factor the media despised). But having showed him Muramasa and Odin Sphere, I think he's grown more accustomed to Kamitani's style, to the point lately he's actually expressed interest in playing Dragon's Crown sometime. But his PS3 needs work (namely replacing the HDD and fixing the laser), has no interest in a Vita himself, and never likes to leave his place if he can help it (and thus trying to get him to come over to mine is a no go), so I don't think there's much chance of us co-oping in the future.
Speaking of Dragon's Crown though, I've been curious as to if the PS4 version has free online, or if not having to pay extra is still a perk to the PS3/Vita original. Also if the online on any of the versions is remotely active these days.
a2a411 No.15826333
>>15825484
>I think his Dragon's Crown characters were the least stylized compared to the others
I feel that way about the playable characters in OS, there's nothing overdone about them to the point where they feel kinda dull next to the secondary characters and creatures.
>13 Sentinels would probably have ended up
When you put it like that, sounds like it's never gonna happen. What do you know?
Well, wouldn't surprise me if the Soystapo made Kamitani a political prisoner.
>>15825949
>I've been curious as to if the PS4 version has free online
I wouldn't bet on it.
>Also if the online on any of the versions is remotely active these days.
I'm probably gonna jump in this week but I'll try some offline runs first because it's been years since I last played and I don't want to look like a stupid asshole. I don't even remember the runes and I knew that shit by heart. Gonna lower the difficulty too, Infernal really lives up to its name and the new level cap is absurd, IIRC they upped it from 99 to 255 and my ZON was nowhere near that even after running 500+ tower floors.
a12bfb No.15830862
>>15826333
Yeah. While I wouldn't go so far as to call them dull, I'll agree that the sheer… well, I can't think of a word for it besides… bigness? Over-the-top-ness? I don't know.
>When you put it like that, sounds like it's never gonna happen. What do you know?
Eh. Now that its been canceled for the Vita its irrelevant for me, and I'm definitely very much worried about Sony's cancer hitting him and his works very hard.
Sony doesn't seem to be afraid of anyone in their fucking crusade. Idea Factory and Marvelous were hit, I'd be surprised if Atlus didn't follow suit unless Sega throws their weight around (and even then its questionable)
a2a411 No.15837986
>>15830862
>I'd be surprised if Atlus didn't follow suit
They might already have. About a couple of weeks ago Studio Zero came out to say something about Catherine FB, they promised there'll be no light shows which kinda seemed like a implicit admission that the game's getting censored in other ways. It's important to note the soy mafia won't let a dev say they've been censored.
Meanwhile, last night at the absolute shitfest that was the VGAs, the P5 main character was confirmed as DLC for the new Smash Bros and the first thing that came to my mind was that Atlus is jumping ship.
ddcaa6 No.15843531
a2a411 No.15844017
Now that Sony's future offerings are looking both short and compromised, I've been giving this PSTV thing some thought and I might bite the bullet once I have the shekels but I still don't really get how it works, what do I need aside the PSTV itself, the game and apparently a PS3 (which I got)?
I can't find any local stores that have either PSTV or Muramasa Rebirth and no way I'll import from outside the EU because the taxes are pornographic.
3ffd69 No.15844071
>>15843584
God that's great
>>15844017
You don't need a PS3.
You do need a controller though, which you should already have with your PS3.
You do need a vita memory card afaik, though you should hack it so you aren't forced to use their super overpriced shit and be fine afterwards. It has 1GB of internal memory so you don't need to buy one with it if you plan on hacking it straight from the start, which I would strongly recommend.
That's really about all you need, besides of course the cables.
aaa067 No.15844078
I played Odin Sphere remake recently and enjoyed it, now I want to play the Muramasa remake but I don't have a shitty vita.
4e9477 No.15844105
Why does food in their games look so fucking amazing?
>>15734073
>Never change Japan
Too bad it is. Westernization is a hell of a thing…
63cfa5 No.15844118
>>15844078
> I don't have a shitty vita.
No one has. Because vita a cute.
b8d82d No.15849127
>>15844078
You could always emulate the Wii version I guess
50af6c No.15849137
>>15849127
Bit surprised no one's done a script rip patch, at least for the content that's the same between them, to fix the Wii original's translation.
3ffd69 No.15854040
>>15849137
I guess the overlap between the audiences wasn't enough, and being a niche game doesn't help either
Plus its been a long time between the releases; I wonder the same thing about the Persona 1 PSP remake's script to the original PSX version.
3ffd69 No.15858691
bumping so I can save all the images in the thread later
a2a411 No.15866975
>boot up DC
>patch notice
>last save was in August 2014
Been eons, even forgot I sunk 750h on this game. Still getting reacquainted with everything, I forgot the absolute insanity that is managing inventory, 9 bags all with S rank gear. Time to see how rusted my ZON got.
50af6c No.15867008
>>15854040
At the same time though, the Wii version's a lot more readily accessible, at least for those of which there's not enough beyond Muramasa to warrant a Vita purchase. And, assuming all the base game scripting to be the same, would probably be much less time and energy consuming to rip the better script and overwrite the worse one, compared with having to translate from scratch for other games, and leaving it more a coding issue than anything. But maybe the role of actually worthwhile DLC exclusive to the Vita version also reduces demand, as even if both shared the same improved script, the Vita version is still the definitive.
>I wonder the same thing about the Persona 1 PSP remake's script to the original PSX version.
Honestly seemed to me like a much more viable means to make a definitive English version than trying to patch the soundtrack when the track amount isn't 1:1 between both. But again, that assumes the amount of script lines the same between the JP PS1 and NA PSP versions, and unfortunately with the blacking and such in the NA PS1 version, it probably wouldn't be as easy to hack in without an existing, properly spaced English typeface (a VWF preferred, but I don't know off the top of my head how P1 handled here).
>>15844017
The Vita can be hacked and is pirate friendly. And even in the states, with my own being surprisingly JP/niche friendly in aftermarket, I don't see Muramasa Rebirth around much, which I attribute more to people that like it keeping their copies for replaying, rather than having sold badly (for a Vita game).
Anyhow, as shit as Gamestop is, credit where it's due, their website is workable for trying to find anywhere remotely nearby with a copy of particular games. Maybe one of your PAL chains has similar functionality? Assuming you haven't already tried, I mean. And of course, buying online through Amazon.uk or whatever or whatever might be a possibility, if prices aren't complete shit. Out here it's not too pricy, but again, that's burgerland. But either seems a better option than just trawling at random and hoping you find it, if you actually want a copy of the game.
d286fa No.15867224
I have a physical copy of Dragon's Crown, is there anything to gain from downloading updates?
db71e7 No.15867314
>>15867224
mainly QoL shit and a few minor balance changes from what I've seen, along with a few hidden things people have discovered
http://archive.is/Lcmm6
Patch 1.05 does add some additional content and seems pretty meaty; this one doesn't list 1.07 so I don't know what happens in that one, and it doesn't list the hidden changes
If you're on a vita version 3.60 be aware that one of the later/latest patches break your ability to play it so be cautious; I had to go back to its unpatched state and i think I had to delete data to do it. Though that happened before I played it; I don't remember if it would affect shit like saves and whatnot
d286fa No.15867410
>>15867314
I'm sorry, I should have specified it's the PS3 version. It seems like the camera goes to shit in later versions which is most unfortunate.
a2a411 No.15869292
>>15867008
>Maybe one of your PAL chains has similar functionality?
One does it, yeah. Still, I'll need to get my shit together before setting the plan in motion, I'm expecting this to likely set me back around 100 merkel shekels. On a dubiously plus side, there's almost nothing else in the horizon for me besides Sekiro.
>>15867224
Ultimate difficulty adds so much content it's almost detrimental, the new level cap will take eons to reach (I've done 500+ floors of the Tower and my ZON is still around Lv200), they gave all the enemies new attacks by cleverly re-using existent assets and it completely reshuffles bosses in terms of difficulty, pushovers like Medusa become harder than the freakin' Red Dragon and IIRC Killer Rabbit earns its rightful place as the hardest boss and lastly you can earn weapons with interesting effects like Dwarf hammers that cast Gravity when you use a PS and Elf gets a Beastmaster set that gives her bonuses and unique abilities when mounted (plus you can buy beast summon scrolls from Lucain). Not sure of this but if I'm not mistaken, one patch added the ability to throw your weapon forward as a alternative to PS, not really useful but it's kinda fun.
Now for a bit of news, the Game Rating and Administration Committee of Korea has rated “13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue” for PlayStation 4. The rating suggests that a demo is planned for the long-awaited title.
db71e7 No.15869388
>>15869292
You should be quick about the PSTV thing, a lot of them are gone by now at the best prices (50 and below) but if you're lucky you can still find something at a good price; you've really got to hunt for it though and get it because the prices are quickly rising up again, though there are sitll some places and sites where its fluctuating,
grab one before its too late
>Now for a bit of news, the Game Rating and Administration Committee of Korea has rated “13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue” for PlayStation 4. The rating suggests that a demo is planned for the long-awaited title.
I'm so fucking sad that its going to be exclusive to such a shit/cancerous platform.
Why'd Sony have to kill the fucking Vita before its time? Why?
Here's hoping they stop being cancerous with this censorship, make a new handheld in the future, and it gets a good remake/port down the line because this is just fucking unacceptable
db71e7 No.15869409
>>15866975
How does it feel anon? Are you playing online and is it still active and fun?
>750 hours
goddamn. I'm assuming you've already 100%'d it then?
a2a411 No.15869513
>>15869388
>You should be quick about the PSTV thing
I should at least get the ball rolling, yeah. I guess I have that innate fear that the second I cough up the dough, they're gonna announce the game's getting ported.
>Here's hoping they stop being cancerous with this censorship
That's hoping for a lot. Seems they don't care about losing profits just as long as they send the message that people (both devs and consumers) will have to bend to knee. A lot of people here think this will only hurt Sony and I wish that were true but this kinda thing runs the risk of setting a terrible precedent, redefine the relationship between the platform and developers. What I think will happen is that devs will start to self-censor at the root because they won't want to put up with this crap nor treat a part of their audience like second class customers even if said customers are having a inferior product because of the platform holder. The Senran Kagura producer already came forward saying he's taking SK7 back to the drawing board because they have to rethink a lot of things.
>>15869409
>How does it feel anon?
Last time I played it was 4 years ago so it was a confusing reunion, getting used to all the buttons, knowing where everything is, had to check my builds to see what the hell I made with my characters, almost had a unga moment when I couldn't figure how to use the spells that aren't in the quick menu (it's pressing down on the d-pad after highlight it with the left or right keys) etc.
>Are you playing online and is it still active and fun?
Still don't feel ready for online, did a Hard (lowered from Ultimate just in case) run of a stage with ZON and steam rolled everything so I guess the lowered difficulty was too much. That said, if that Medusa hit as hard as in Ultimate, I'd be seeing a game over screen, my dodges aren't on point. Also, I completely forgot the runes.
I'll be doing a few stages offline for the sake of getting reacquainted with cooking and then hop in to see if I can run into anyone.
>I'm assuming you've already 100%'d it then?
I don't think it's possible to 100% the game. Ultimate mode's description literally goes "you're here forever", takes eons to level up, you're always getting more gear and I've no clue if there's an end to the tower.
154702 No.15876651
>>15869513
>second pic
its weird seeing fan art of the merchant girl.
c22cb0 No.15876993
Are any of these games playable on PC? Fuck (((console))).
a2a411 No.15877326
>>15876651
The NPC grills are criminally underrated.
Anywho, finally had the guts to jump in. Tried connecting at first, got nothing and so went him solo. However, on the very first part of the area I chose, someone jumped and by the end of the level, we were a full party. Later tried connecting again and joined a game that also had a full party for a bit. So yeah, DC's online is still active, surprisingly so for a niche title. That said, still pretty rusty and don't remember much of the game so I'm playing second potato atm.
Before jumping in, I ran a bit of the tower solo in Infernal difficulty, I forgot how much harder it is compared to the main game. And I've certainly lost the ability to keep track of what's happening on the screen, even with a minimal HUD.
4cdab5 No.15877355
>>15876993
You could try dragons crown on a ps3 emulator, I haven’t played it yet since its been sitting on my backlog for a while now
db71e7 No.15885120
>>15877326
>>15876651
I'm surprised there isn't way more fanart of the shopkeeper. Her outfit and design are fucking amazing and very much "in your face" when you first meet her.
>playing second potato
That's hard to imagine anon, you seem like you know the game very well. Guess DC's matchmaking puts you with very highly skilled people.
>>15869513
>I should at least get the ball rolling, yeah. I guess I have that innate fear that the second I cough up the dough, they're gonna announce the game's getting ported.
Understandable, but a PSTV is cheap at any rate and has some pretty nice stuff you can do with it even outside of its exclusives.
>a lot of people here think this will only hurt Sony and I wish that were true but this kinda thing runs the risk of setting a terrible precedent, redefine the relationship between the platform and developers
What do you mean exactly?
Also I think this will undoubtedly hurt developers more than it will Sony, unfortunately. It will hurt Sony in the long-run, but that takes time to effect them and in the meantime developers could literally be dying off or shaving off core people.
Its kind of strange to see Sony throw literally everything away. I remember when the Sony president said that DOAX3 wouldn't come to the west because of Dragon's Crown not being well-received by journalists, clearly indicating that he at least cared about Atlus and Koei Tecmo as developers for the platform, but even that seems to be gone.
>hat I think will happen is that devs will start to self-censor at the root because they won't want to put up with this crap nor treat a part of their audience like second class customers even if said customers are having a inferior product because of the platform holder. The Senran Kagura producer already came forward saying he's taking SK7 back to the drawing board because they have to rethink a lot of things.
He said the olympics was a part of it, but I don't know what's going on anymore. All I know is that I don't like any of it.
>I don't think it's possible to 100% the game. Ultimate mode's description literally goes "you're here forever", takes eons to level up, you're always getting more gear and I've no clue if there's an end to the tower.
Before patch 1.05 or whatever it was that introduced that, did you basically finish everything?
a2a411 No.15885417
>>15885120
>you seem like you know the game very well
Again, 4 years since my last save, I forgot almost every rune and my eyes haven't re-accustomed to keeping track of the action, get shit like the Arch-Demon boss with the boss, four players and mobs all filling the screen with crap and I completely lose track.
And look no further than this thread for proof of my forgetfulness, I keep addressing the top difficulty as Infernal when it should be Ultimate.
>What do you mean exactly?
MS, Nintendo and Steam might feel emboldened to start demanding devs acquiesce to their rules too. For a very crude analogy, it's like those h-mangas and porns where a chick gets filmed sucking some guy's dick so now she's gotta suck everybody's dick.
>Its kind of strange to see Sony throw literally everything away.
From what I understand, Sony HQ has moved from Tokyo to California, which kinda explains everything.
>Before patch 1.05 or whatever it was that introduced that, did you basically finish everything?
I've six characters, one per class, finished the game with all of them quests included and cleared the Tower in Infernal with Amazon.
36d695 No.15885451
im not even a leg guy but i just want to fall asleep on those things
also check out concept art mercedes
4c9883 No.15893248
>>15885451
>concept art
Looks kind of like a Disgaea/NIS loli
Cute but i still prefer the original
a2a411 No.15894803
Online seems pretty active still, not glory days active but it doesn't take long to find a game. That said, can't find anyone doing the labyrinth which is kinda disappointing, the main game gets tedious after a while, doubly so when you're in post-game and there's no point to it. Kinda sucks because I even respec'd my FAITA to be more of a team player with his unique items and maximized the shit out of that shield.
Incidentally, got a couple of questions:
1 - does Fighter's distraction skill give the +30% AT even if running solo?
2 - does Nutritionist affect food drops? In this respec, I raised that skill to Lv4, something I never done before, and the food drops are absurdly consistent.
1dffc1 No.15895137
a2a411 No.15905516
Kind of an odd question but are there cheaters in this game like players with hacked gear? Had the good fortune of finding companions for a bit of the Labyrinth and one Sorceress was casting Blizzard practically every encounter without the usage number ever dropping. I know Sorceress and Wizard can get gear that has a 50% chance of casting a spell without spending it but this was way too consistent to be the cause.
Just something I found odd though I won't complain since I got easily carried through a chunk of floors, even when I was left with the NPC.
db71e7 No.15913087
>thread lasted till Christmas
I'm content
Also merry Christmas
a2a411 No.15914507
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15913087
Was waiting for Santa and ended up spending a all-nighter with this game, re-arranging all the bags to sell the crappier stuff, farmed some Amnesia Elixirs to respec everyone but got stumped when I got to Elf because I have no fuckin' clue on what to do with this character because a solo Elf backstab build can't do shit in Ultimate.
Googled around for Elf build discussions and found this YT channel devoted exclusively to DC and, lol and behold, this guy has done over TWENTY TWO FUCKIN' THOUSAND tower floors (and is still going) and now I feel like those Lovecraft characters that get their brains toasted when faced with certain revelations because I thought I was some hot shit for having done 500 floors with my Amazon.
That said, if you play Elf, Fighter or Sorceress you should check the channel because he has some short technique videos for each them.
Merry Christmas
4fdb96 No.15918704
>>15730424
Is this the guy that broke down and started crying after he said NIGGER on stream?
337918 No.15919224
>>15918704
Yes, his name is Niggerdagger.
44fdb3 No.15927905
People were saying there's a demo for the gook region for 13 Sentinel. Did anyone find out anything about it?
fa3fde No.15930238
Can someone explain Odin Sphere to me? There's something I'm not getting. Eating food increases your maximum HP. So surely the meta is to be planting as much as I can and scoffing down food at every opportunity? But doing that feels like a waste in a way I can't describe. Uses too many of the phozon things, perhaps? Is there something I'm missing here?
Also thought I would bitch about this little fiery cunt. I dominate this little bastard for 3 health bars and then when it's about to die it somehow shits out a projectile spam attack with its flame pillar that stunlocks me until I'm dead. I'll get past it but it's killed me twice with this bullshit trick so I wanted to vent.
65dfb1 No.15930249
Been playing Odin on vita. Should I spend my people dots on skills or on growing seeds?
db71e7 No.15930269
>>15930238
Food is also XP, and no not necessarily. It helps to save some ingredients for high tier recipes, in fact that's what you should generally be doing. Maury should be one of your main sources of XP especially later on.
Don't plant as much as you can. Plant good seeds that work well in recipes, usually the higher the tier, the better the options.
Phozons…how you manage them is up to you. Just remember levels are important and also keep in mind what you would want in terms of skills and abilities and get them accordingly when you have a good amount
>>15930249
Dots? You mean Phozons? Anyways, its up to you but you should be doing both. Don't grow too many seeds since you will be getting some good stuff without needing to grow. The farther you get the better the things you can grow and those are the ones worth saving for in my opinion
fc8e93 No.15930467
>>15927905
Nothing, we only know because it was rated by the Korean classification board a few weeks ago. Presumably that means it's coming in the next 6 months.
6ebc4c No.15930472
>>15919224
>>15918704
THE CHINDER CHAGGER NIGGER DAGGER, YES! WE GOT IT!
65dfb1 No.15931248
>>15930269
What should I spend my gold on? Recipe food?
82cec7 No.15931269
>>15918704
>started crying after he said NIGGER on stream?
Yes but those were tears of joy. Negroes all across the world fear the awesome might of the Chinder Chagger Nigger Dagger.
a2a411 No.15931584
>>15930238
I mostly use planted food (mapples in particular) to level up alchemy concotions and make the most of those phozon plants to not spend much. For boosting HP, there's the already mentioned Maury (though he'll require ingredients so you gotta keep a surplus of everything) and the Pooka village eateries that ask for Valentine coins which are exclusive for those places.
>this fiery little cunt
Boy, are you gonna love the trial stage!
>>15931248
I usually get high tier gear (I think it's Lv4 or Lv5) and might occasionally cough up the shekels for something for the sake of alchemy, usually Coolers so I can turn Volcanoes into Whirlwinds.
Anyway, my DC adventures are still going, went back to Infernal to finish the Labyrinth with my Elf who's in constant need of better gear and more experience (both numbers and my actual experience playing her) and, from what I just gathered, the Seals require clearing the Labyrinth with a character to get the most of it (a 25% buff to everything).
db71e7 No.15932253
>>15931248
if you feel like you need to. I only did occasionally
50af6c No.15932373
>>15930238
Take ingredients to get actual meals made for leveling up. Save certain foods for downtime healing. You can plant seeds to grow into materials for either food, or to stockpile and dump later on the field to use a Naturalize (higher level the better) on to get even more phozons back as a return on your investment. Game gives you options.
6db89e No.15933966
Just got Dragon's Crown and I was playing it through with my fellow sperg friend on the living room couch all this afternoon. This is the good shit.
I am playing Elf and he is playing Sorceress. I assume party composition and skills don't matter much on the normal difficulty?
How do some of the Elf's abilities work? Like the one where you hold square for magic, sometimes it does a whirlwind but others it tosses fireballs. What decides that? Some of her skills also seem to focus around producing daggers and using them, but I don't want to care about daggers at all, I just mainly want to shoot my bow and kick things. Is that viable?
a2a411 No.15934129
>>15933966
>Elf magic
Elemental Lore depends on a magic source that's in the vicinity, default is wind but changes if you're near fire, ice or water signaled by the colored orb circling her. Per instances, carrying a torch or equipping the fire arrows will basically set her magic to fire. Ice is the toughest one to get and depends on a very rare piece of equipment (and some skill to go with it) or, the more common, enemies casting ice magic.
There's two ways to abuse magic:
1 - hold Square and tap up to keep doing (this also works for Amazon's parry)
2 - hold Square+L1 then dodge, she'll cast the magic, and keep dodging with the buttons held
>nigger daggers
That was my build, basically Daggers+Backstab+Maintenance. It's good if you have other people around and you can capitalize on the openings but for high difficulty solo runs, it's extremely frustrating.
>bow+kicks
Kicks are the weakest of her options but that's not a issue for Normal or even Hard difficulties and you can get reallocation potions later on so don't worry about builds right now. That said, a complent to the bow is mandatory as is having two bows in each bag. They break quick and each shot has to count, also remember to hit enemies with anything else besides arrows so they drop arrows.
I strongly reccommend you take a peek at the channel I linked in >>15914507 Basically a "MLG Elf" and the short technique videos are very helpful.
6db89e No.15934260
>>15934129
This shit is way more cerebral than I thought.
a2a411 No.15938653
>>15934260
Elf is simultaneously the hardest character to build and play as. You can always join the low IQ melee master race. :^)
Side note, Kamitani still hasn't treated us with the new year illustration. If last year is anything to go by, it might take close to a week.
588f44 No.15938687
>>15933966
The problem is that you won't go back to it, once you beat the campaign. It takes a day to.
db71e7 No.15945573
>>15938687
Mine took me a little under 20 hours with Amazon (though I was playing unpatched; dunno how much that affected things)
it took me a while since this was more of a game I could pick up at any time, play for an hour, and then stop at a good point
>>15938653
2018's pic was fucking prophetic, with the snakes being Sony
e141fa No.15945638
It's a shame that Vanillaware's IPs are divided between a bunch of different publishers; I'd kill for a big hardcover artbook compilation that gathers all their work.
Actually thinking about it, they're pretty damn underrepresented on the artbook front, which is strange considering the visuals are the big draw of their games. Odin Sphere/Leifthrasir, Grand Knight History and Dragon's Crown got abridged artbooks packed in with their CEs, but Dragon's Crown is the only one that's gotten a separate, in-depth retail one (which oddly hasn't been picked up by Udon for a Western release; it's still Japan-only almost 4 years later).
ddcaa6 No.15952156
>>15945638
I badly wished for a US copy of Grand Knight's history with artbook/journal/whatever
Really sucks as its such a beautiful game
b2cfb8 No.15952206
>>15945638
>tfw nothing but figurines for muramasa, even though their best artist shigatake did most of the art for the game call me a homo if you want, but i hate how kamitani draws tiny men and adds muscles, exaggerated breasts, thighs and hips to all his girls, he also has a thing for feet
>made in limited quantities and expensive
>no okoi figurine
>no physical complete edition, only the base game
>4 DLCs, at $15 each
>individual DLC never put on sale, only the digital complete edition, but at that point you might as well pirate
Sucks that their best game got the worst treatment.
e141fa No.15953160
>>15952206
Plus Rebirth didn't even get a physical release in PAL regions, which wouldn't be an issue if not for DLC being region-locked.
50af6c No.15953177
>>15953160
>Plus Rebirth didn't even get a physical release in PAL regions
Seriously?
>>15952206
It is a bit annoying that of the modern Vanillaware releases, Muramasa was the one that couldn't even get an artbook here. Then again, it was initially handled by Ignition here, and then Aksys, so I guess one shouldn't expect much in the way of extra effort from either of them, whereas Atlus not only did full color softcover prints for Odin Sphere and Dragon's Crown as a freebie, but also bothered to translate the text too (which I think oddly wasn't the case for the ingame artbook unlock in Leifthrasir if I recall right).
>4 DLCs, at $15 each
Pretty sure there were $5 each, with a bundle of all four of them for $15.
>individual DLC never put on sale, only the digital complete edition
They used to have that DLC bundle get into flash sales for $7.50, but I suppose Aksys wants better shekel control at this point in time, either forcing people that buy preowned to still fork over the full price, or pay around the same for the digital complete on flash sales.
db71e7 No.15953222
>>15953177
Atlus's launch editions are usually stellar, though I wasn't around for when their vanillaware releases were new so I don't know how they handled them. Were those softcovers available for the Vita versions as well, or PS3/4 only?
50af6c No.15953233
>>15953222
>Atlus's launch editions are usually stellar
Some of the OST discs they include for stuff beg to differ, but I suppose it's still free shit and more effort than most. At least their Legacy of Ys one has 30 tracks. 8-12 song sampler packs can go fuck themselves though.
>Were those softcovers available for the Vita versions as well, or PS3/4 only?
Softcover artbooks for all first print versions minimum, I think.
db71e7 No.15953246
>>15953233
>more effort than most
That's mainly what I was referring to. The fact that I can get shit like artbooks, pillowcases, physical (sometimes even thick) manuals when nobody else includes it with their default editions is pretty nice and for no real cost increase over other games, sometimes even cheaper since their prices drop quickly. Their shit usually gets beat out in terms of goods and quality by limited editions of games of course, but those cost far more and a lot of the limited edition shit is only a slight to moderate upgrade of what used to be the norm years ago. Its annoying.
OST discs are one of the lamer things to include, but yeah its still better than nothing and it makes the game come with a bigger (usually nicer) box which is nice.
>Softcover artbooks for all first print versions minimum, I think.
Damn, nice.
I wish I'd found out about Vanillaware sooner.
e141fa No.15953294
>>15953177
Yeah, a retail release of Rebirth for PAL regions was in the planning stages (it got to the point where at least here in Australia, it was up for pre-order) but was scrapped by Aksys a couple of months before release.
>>15953246
The OSL artbook is pretty easily findable on eBay for about ~$20 or so. I wouldn't pay any more than that, it's only 64 pages and not all that expansive. Same with the DC one, but you're better off just importing the proper one from Japan. Far more content and not really all that expensive, it only goes for about $30-40 depending on your exchange rate. Only gripe is that it's horizontal, so it might stick out on your shelf a bit.
a2a411 No.15953451
[CURRENT YEAR +4] already busting my balls. Finishing the Labyrinth with most of my other characters and the damn left-analog is going bonkers, tilts to the left every now and then and isn't any subtle about it. Run off the fights, start swinging in the wrong direction and camp time looks like I picked the Michael J. Fox class.
50af6c No.15953655
>>15953294
That fucking sucks. Wonder why they dropped it for there. I mean, yeah, it's niche, and the Vita's niche, but it's almost got must-have status amongst those that own the system.
>The OSL artbook is pretty easily findable on eBay for about ~$20 or so. I wouldn't pay any more than that, it's only 64 pages and not all that expansive.
I'd think it would be cheaper, since I've been seeing Dragon's Crown's first print artbook for $3 or so around where I live from time to time. But then again, I see lots of copies of Dragon's Crown in general, and I really don't see Leifthrasir in comparison, assuming I'm not at a Gamestop, so if there were low copies shipped probably also means low copies of the artbook too.
>>15953246
I suppose Atlus' quality is debatable, but they do at least make some effort with freebies, whether it's because they actually care about the games, or to try and entice more preorders. Wish they could stick to some series a bit better than just 1-2 attempts at finding an audience here though.
3938d5 No.15953686
Dragon's Crown was on the Vita, right? Then why the shit can't I find it on the bong PSN store?
50af6c No.15953689
>>15953686
>Wanting to give NISA money.
e141fa No.15953695
>>15953686
Atlus and NISA (Atlus notoriously didn't give a shit about PAL regions for years and went through a number of different distributors for Europe and Australia/New Zealand over the years) had a big falling out a few years ago, which resulted in a number of games being pulled from digital storefronts, the original release of Dragon's Crown being one of them. iirc, a factor in DCP being a thing to begin with was partially to get it out there again.
50af6c No.15953700
>>15953695
Does Atlus still not have a PAL branch? I mean, even if they aren't using NISA anymore for the local market there, are they still going third party with it, or is the NA branch exporting now?
db71e7 No.15953702
>>15953686
It was recently removed from the US PSN earlier this year as well. Can't remember what the reason was.
e141fa No.15953703
>>15953700
They finally opened up a European branch last year at the insistence of their Sega-Sammy overlords. But yeah, Atlus were still doing games through Deep Silver up until mid-last year.
db71e7 No.15953712
>>15953702
Oops never mind, I misremembered; could've sworn it was
9af857 No.15953729
>>15728397
Have the ascended version
e141fa No.15955821
Any updates on the fan translation of Princess Crown's PSP port?
b2cfb8 No.15962375
>>15955821
It's supposedly 100% done, but the guy hasn't released it yet, there's a github page to check up on his progress, but no links whatsoever.
There's full script translations on gamefaqs and some other dead page that you need to use internet archive for, but no actual patches, just play it in japanese, it's an ARPG that plays a lot like vanilla odin's sphere, and the main draws of this game are the incredibly beautiful sprite work, fluid animations and satisfying combat (at the time), not the story.
a2a411 No.15963975
Now it's New Year. This thread can now go knowing it led a full life.
b2cfb8 No.15964506
I hope 13 sentinels ends up playing like metal slug or gunhound, turn based combat and visual novels are shit.
db71e7 No.15966176
>>15963975
It lasted almost 2 months. I'm surprised, though things really tapered off in speed for the last 60 posts.
a2a411 No.15966606
Update on 13S. Copy-paste from Gematsu:
Atlus has announced 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue for PlayStation 4. It will launch on March 14 in Japan. Consumers will be able to access it through various means, the cheapest of which is 980 yen.
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue will allow users to play the first three hours of 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim and control all 13 main characters. Save data from 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue cannot be carried over to 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim.
Here is how you will be able to play 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue on March 14, via the Atlus x VanillaWare website:
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Music and Art Clips (including 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue on Blu-ray disc) (2,980 yen)
Music and Art Clips original box
Visual book (36 pages)
Original mini soundtrack CD (10 tracks)
Original PlayStation 4 theme and avatar set download code
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue for PlayStation 4 on Blu-ray disc
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Digital Archives (including 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue download code) (980 yen)
Original PlayStation 4 theme and avatar set download code
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue for PlayStation 4 download code
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir New Price Version Campaign Pack (including 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue download code) (3,980 yen)
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir for PlayStation 4 on Blu-ray disc
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir mini soundtrack download code (10 ttracks)
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir original PlayStation 4 theme download code
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue for PlayStation 4 download code
Dragon’s Crown Pro New Price Version Campaign Pack (including 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue download code) (3,980 yen)
Dragon’s Crown Pro for PlayStation 4 on Blu-ray disc
Dragon’s Crown Pro mini soundtrack download code (10 ttracks)
Dragon’s Crown Pro original PlayStation 4 theme download code
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim Prologue for PlayStation 4 download code
tl;dr - demo for 13S on March 14. NOT free. shit better be good
eca0af No.15966682
>>15966606
>Paid demo
>Comes in a physical version
>"Prologue"
What is this, Gran Turismo?
I'm not too keen on that. Considering Leifthrasir had a perfectly good free demo, this is probably a "gift" from Atlus' sheer arrogance.
Also, having its own disc release? If it's just a 3hr~ demo of a game, that's one hell of a waste. Other options offer a download code, which for a demo that lets you transfer save data it'd make more sense. If the prologue chapter was entirely separate from the main game, then that would merit a disc version's collectable factor at least… But as of right now, the best move would be to wait for the final game.
Wonder what Atlus USA will end up doing. The physical Prologue disc is 99% not coming overseas most likely. Same goes for 'New Price' versions of physical releases.
That Odin Sphere theme looks nice. Hopefully it comes to the american store…
eca0af No.15966697
Wait a second… Save data does not transfer to the main game. I read that is was going to be transferable at first.
This is actually going to be a separate product/story from the final game, then? Seems sketchy as fuck, how far does the development hell hole go?
db71e7 No.15966709
>>15966697
>>15966682
>>15966606
I remember hearing that Dragon's Crown Pro sold like shit, this is probably to cover development costs assuming Dragon's Crown Pro didn't net them much
This is unfortunate, but at least Georgie boy has a good track record with games that spent a long-time in development
a2a411 No.15966731
>>15966709
>I remember hearing that Dragon's Crown Pro sold like shit
Probably because it was overpriced on top of not adding anything substantial. Also for a system with paid online.
If they want easy money just freakin' port Muramasa Rebirth.
e141fa No.15966733
>>15966606
So they're pulling a Ground Zeroes for the first three hours of the base game that doesn't even transfer over come release.
Holy shit Atlus, what the fuck?
a2a411 No.15966772
New screens. I don't like how hesitant they are to show what the actual game looks like, feels like they want to sell people on the visuals first.
194d1c No.15967108
>>15966606
The game bundles containing Odin Sphere and Dragon' Crown Pro are really good value for people who've not played either. Though the inclusion of 'mini-soundtrack' really annoys me; wish they'd just include the FULL soundtrack instead, and I don't mind if they have to increase the price to compensate. But man, a paid-for demo? When's the actual game coming out? Is it reasonable to expect a 2019 release at this point?
db71e7 No.15967226
>>15967108
My guess is early 2020
Worst case has gotta be 2021