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50c4a2  No.15697663

Is there any games you feel where the quality of the sequel and the previous game feel so different that they feel like they were made by an entirely different developer?

I just replayed Hitman:Codename 47 yesterday and now Ive started replaying through Hitman 2:Silent Assassin, and the difference in quality is staggering.

The first time I played Hitman 2 it was long after I played Codename 47 so I didn't notice it as much, but playing them immediately after each other back-to-back was really eye-opening.

Codename 47 is such an awful piece of shit, and then just 2 years later Silent Assassin comes out and its a massive improvement in every aspect, from graphics, to game mechanics, to mission/level design, everything is a thousand times better.

Like I said, It felt like it was a game made by an entirely different developer.

Have you ever had a similar experience?

77280a  No.15697697

yeah,

>burnout 1, burnout 2 and burnout 3

>crash 1, crash 2

>streets of rage 1 & 2

>sonic 1 and 2 and 3 & knuckles


db786f  No.15697741

>>15697663

>Codename 47

>awful piece of shit

You're a fucking retarded faggot


50c4a2  No.15697758

>>15697741

>Shoddy AI and level design

>Multiple levels that are essentially just massive stretches of land with no features of value whatsoever

>Ends with a giant retarded shootout in a bunch of copypasted rooms

Other than Traditions of the Trade and The Lee Hong Assassination, its just a complete mess, I dont know how you can defend it.

They very clearly had no idea what they were doing and didnt have a clear direction for the game, and the game quality suffered for it.

Its like they couldn't decide if they wanted it to be a cool espionage game or just a generic shooter, and somehow ended up with a strange abomination that combines both in the worst way possible.


06a026  No.15697770

>>15697758

I beat every Hitman game guns blazing. No survivors.


06a026  No.15697772

>>15697758

I remember the jungle level being retardedly long and walking around the fence at the base took a very long time.


50c4a2  No.15697787

>>15697772

The entire Columbia chapter was just complete ass.

First the absurdly huge jungle that you have traverse multiple times, first halfway across the map to reach the tribe camp, then walk to the other fucking side of the map to rescue the captured tribesman, then walk to the other fucking side of the map again back to the camp. All during this time there is absolutley nothing of interest in your path.

Then the bizzare and out-of-place jaguar feeding mission.

Finish it off with the massive, ugly, featureless compound with the thousand mile long fence you mentioned, into the mansion with the Tony Montana knock-off.


ea1863  No.15698128

Splinter Cell 1 and Chaos Theory feel like total different games (Pandora Tomorrow was made by another studio)


63e1b5  No.15698137

File: 33c30a8f915c54f⋯.jpg (164.39 KB, 1000x591, 1000:591, 1451633579954-2.jpg)

Every next MGS was a world better than the previous one.

And I liked MGS1.


e9972c  No.15698159

>>15697770

You get huge penalties for killing people though. That's what I fucking hate in every Hitman game.


d22a8e  No.15698168

>>15698137

MGS2 was better than MGS1, MGS3 was better than MGS2, MGS4 shat the bed storywise and so did every game after

gameplay wise as it stands MGS4 is still king

also GZs gameplay > MGSV gameplay

prove me wrong you cant


96ffb7  No.15698206

>>15698168

>GZs gameplay > MGSV gameplay

But MGSV gameplay is GZ but improved and with more shit to do.


6a6a89  No.15698434

>>15698206

>go and fulton or kill namelsss fuck, or nameless fuck's car

Amazing gameplay.


4281e8  No.15698494

>>15698206

"More shit to do" doesn't mean better.

If you've done the challenges/achievement of GZ you would have noticed how insanely tight the whole thing is and how fucking deep they've gone.

Because a lot of challenges ask you to do shit in what look like impossible time, until you realize that yeah there is a way you just have to git gud. Like how you can fucking snipe people with pistol tranq darts from half the map away because the game does have a ballistic model in it.

And if you've gotten good in GZ and play MGS V after well… it's just a let down, because "there is more things in it" but it's piss easy

(here have a sniper tranq… Thanks but I know how to headshot guard at 300 yard with the basic pistol tranq).


57f654  No.15698532

>>15697663

Honestly, I like Codename 47's mechanics the most out of the Hitman games I've played. Haven't touched 2, though I intend on it. The biggest problem with Codename is that the level design and AI is bad.


28b98c  No.15698559

File: e6d16020aa3d73f⋯.jpg (222.73 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, hc47.jpg)

>>15697758

I loved C47 as a 14 year old, but you're right - they didn't "get" how to do stealth properly yet. Disguises were overpowered - you would never get exposed unless you killed someone in plain sight.

Then comes SA and has the opposite flaw - you can't do shit without getting discovered. Contracts got it right.


84a10c  No.15698607

>>15698206

The gameplay's the same, it's the level design that's the problem.


7d7d12  No.15698775

File: 9e27ceca7bb996f⋯.webm (13.69 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 2018.11.07-13.39.webm)

File: 277d5dc63fe8b3e⋯.webm (1.07 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Another Life.webm)


2e7377  No.15698809

>>15698159

Do penalties even do anything?


7ad163  No.15698960

>>15698775

>first webm

Why did you cut the electricity? What does it actually do? Anyway, that's a pretty elegant solution to the level. No disguises, no knocking out anyone else besides the targets, never being detected. Nice.


7d7d12  No.15699145

File: 3436d3ff59426c8⋯.jpg (157.42 KB, 1200x678, 200:113, screen_22-h.jpg)

File: de64c41466cdca8⋯.jpg (212.55 KB, 1200x678, 200:113, screen_18-h.jpg)

File: 18bab2ca2fa7276⋯.jpg (92.54 KB, 1200x678, 200:113, screen_17-h.jpg)

>>15698960

Vinnie likes to watch TV in the entertainment room. If you mess up with the power box then Vinnie will send his personal bodyguard to see what's wrong with the TV, and you'll be with him alone.


7adff7  No.15699233

File: f665d719a15ed0b⋯.jpeg (52.08 KB, 900x506, 450:253, serveimage.jpeg)

>>15698809

You pay per body, so you get more money (=more weapons) by not killing everyone you see. Death to Spies is better in this regard, although you can't kill a lot in the more diplomatic missions and the physics/AI in the first game are a joke.


50c4a2  No.15699684

>>15698532

>Honestly, I like Codename 47's mechanics the most out of the Hitman games I've played

What specifically do you like? I cant recall off the top of my head anything that's exclusive to CN47.

>>15698559

I think SA's disguises are fine actually, they work from a distance or only for brief exposure at close range, but under close scrutiny you get exposed.

Meanwhile with later games you can mess around pretty freely as long as you dont do anything astronomically stupid.

SA's system makes more sense to me.


bfc9d1  No.15699708

File: 0a6d6cbac66287d⋯.jpg (75.27 KB, 670x671, 670:671, 0a6d6cbac66287d8750b17f8e7….jpg)

>>15698775

>>15698960

>mfw I thought I was the only one who'd completely try to ghost hitman levels without being seen, no disguises, knockouts or casualties

>mfw I a new life was the first I ghosted

>mfw I clocked some 10 minutes because of a lot of waiting around I did

>mfw anon did it with only in 4, literally twice as fast

well shit, you sure showed me


c3e3d0  No.15699723

File: e18886d03623cae⋯.jpg (738.16 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 20180321183753_1.jpg)

>>15699684

>I cant recall off the top of my head anything that's exclusive to CN47.

Well, SA removed sniper cases anyway, but that's not exclusive to C47


7d7d12  No.15700783

File: 9a91c644ab32531⋯.webm (15.74 MB, 512x288, 16:9, 2018.11.07-23.46.webm)


7d7d12  No.15702750

Looks like Hitman 2 has become SJW garbage. There is one level similiar to The Meat King's Party and A Dance With The Devil, some kind of Illuminaty gathering and there are a lot of black NPC's, and both targets are black women.


7d7d12  No.15702761

>>15702750

Also no sex orgies.


b853cb  No.15702781

>>15702750

>killing black women is SJW

At last I truly see.


90c847  No.15702815

File: f39594c66955353⋯.png (183.02 KB, 944x2966, 472:1483, ur a faget.png)

DMC2 and DMC3 were made by mostly the same team, but it's really hard to tell. The team went from almost killing the franchise before it got started to making the game every game in the genre is measured against.


0f526e  No.15702822

>>15699145

You can also take out one of the wife's bodyguards I think by putting chloroform on the daughter's panties, causing him to pass out when he sniffs them.


7ad163  No.15702973

>>15700783

Alright, now do Dance with the Devil using no disguises, without being detected or caught on camera, and without knocking out anyone but the main targets. There are four; the FBI agent in the gold suit and oni mask, his assistant the angel, the man in the red suit, and his Romanian girlfriend.


6b0fc9  No.15704843

>>15698775

>knock out fbi with poison donuts

>call vinnie

>use suppressed WA2000 to take him out

>Miss and fuck everything up

Shame the new hitman feels so railroaded to a set path. At least, the demo felt that way.


6a6a89  No.15704972

>>15702781

In previous game you killed a jew former mossad interrogation expert who when threatened at gun point instead of begging tries to tell you he's your only friend and will sell out his comrades if you spare him


ae8aa8  No.15704990

>>15697772


52ed05  No.15706671

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15697758

>Its like they couldn't decide if they wanted it to be a cool espionage game or just a generic shooter

It's because they didn't. Hitman: Codename 47 was originally going to be a tech demo for IO's Glacier engine in the mold of an action game. I don't know what brought up the stealth, I think it had something to do with the ragdoll physics\inverse kinematics. Hell, the game even has unused Duke Nukem-like taunts for combat.

That said though, I think that Codename 47 along with Contracts have the best soundtrack in the series.


06a026  No.15706687

>>15699233

>More money = more weapons

Kill a man and take his weapon. It's yours now.


7d7d12  No.15707201

File: 710fa7a5442c906⋯.png (1.16 MB, 1476x776, 369:194, 2016.png)

File: 390d5cf910b7087⋯.png (1.28 MB, 1353x742, 1353:742, 2018.png)

File: 6ccef338bade262⋯.jpg (123.14 KB, 740x429, 740:429, 2016.jpg)

File: 4e6fc8bc5ae8019⋯.jpeg (316.24 KB, 1380x776, 345:194, 2018.jpeg)

File: bb2ace54632937e⋯.png (1.5 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 863550_20181109143036_1.png)

which face is better


660d3b  No.15707217

>>15707201

2018 is probably more accurate, but 2016 is more aesthetically pleasing. A mixture of the two would be best, I’m sure.


2ef4c5  No.15707307

File: 909a033ff9f0f16⋯.png (784.77 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 4abb466a0cc5d84⋯.png (129.08 KB, 670x300, 67:30, ClipboardImage.png)

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File: aeb14788601ee48⋯.png (410.36 KB, 377x500, 377:500, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 19ea822f76a517b⋯.png (265.27 KB, 530x607, 530:607, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15698775

I would be a hitman if I had 47's skills along with his chiseled jaw, devilish good looks and piercing blue eyes.

>>15707201

2018 does look closer to his original look like >>15707217 says, he's much more handsome and stylish in 2016 but Blood money 47 is perfection. They should have made him look more like the promo art for BM in 2018.


6a6a89  No.15707319

File: 55b7d4091ae7584⋯.jpg (766 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, David-Bateson-Interview.jpg)

>>15707201

2016 is Literally bateson but de-aged by like 35 years.


2ef4c5  No.15707329

>>15707319

In-game model looks nothing like that.



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