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File: 2da732fac1d3a5a⋯.jpg (53.68 KB, 256x355, 256:355, Sporebox.jpg)

241e77  No.15683329

I don't understand why someone has taken up the baton yet, its a concept that has been demonstrated, but also hasn't reached it's full potential. I keep seeing people lament about how EA fucked it up and it's nothing like it was supposed to be, its over 10 years old now ffs, how hard would it be for a small studio to make a spiritual successor and make it the way Will Wight intended from the beginning, it could have magnitudes more fidelity than even a fully realized Spore could ever have.

03edcb  No.15683334

everyone who could have stopped careing about vidya over a decade ago


a71c43  No.15683387

Why do that when you can just make spastic (((cinematic experiences))) or intentionally dogshit meme games and make mad bank effortlessly?


99cf31  No.15683389

File: 5f0409465df944b⋯.gif (492.9 KB, 245x232, 245:232, 5f0409465df944bb3bdff15157….gif)

>hurr durr ea ruined spuhr XDD

>its nawt wat wirr writ envishuned!! XDdDdDd

>sucking this much cuck/v/ cock and downing this much bluepills

You are a fucking idiot mate. Wright himself WANTED the game to be the way it is currently. I know EA is absolute shit, but for once they were NOT responsible for this mess. The game as it stands is Wright's envision.


241e77  No.15683408

>>15683389

>hurr durr ea ruined spuhr XDD

Where did I myself say that you fucking smooth brain

>its nawt wat wirr writ envishuned!! XDdDdDd

It literally wasn't

>sucking this much cuck/v/ cock and downing this much bluepills

>"You are a fucking idiot mate. Wright himself WANTED the game to be the way it is currently. "

>being this much of a raging contrarian faggot


03edcb  No.15683410

>>15683408

There's mad.

Then there's (((you))).


241e77  No.15683416


99cf31  No.15683423

File: 3eb87ebb3e512bf⋯.jpg (127.71 KB, 580x800, 29:40, 3eb87ebb3e512bfd87674fbe23….jpg)

>>15683408

>hurr it wasnt! I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IN THE TRUTH AFTER CUCKCHAN BLUEPILLED ME FOR TEN YEARS!

>being this fucking insecure and autistic

See for yourself, faggot.


241e77  No.15683424


69f818  No.15683432

>>15683389

>mate

cringe and redditpilled


20bd90  No.15683478

File: 2efb7e142a721d6⋯.png (2.05 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1427728543631.png)

I don't understand why someone has taken up the baton yet, its a concept that has been demonstrated, but also hasn't reached it's full potential. I keep seeing people lament about how Konami fucked it up and it's nothing like it was supposed to be, its over 3 years old now ffs, how hard would it be for a small studio to make a spiritual successor and make it the way Hideo Kojima intended from the beginning, it could have magnitudes more fidelity than even a fully realized MGSV could ever have.


b44bbf  No.15683490

File: faadb5b01288f1f⋯.jpeg (12.86 KB, 200x252, 50:63, images.jpeg)

I don't understand why someone has taken up the baton yet, its a concept that has been demonstrated, but also hasn't reached it's full potential. I keep seeing people lament about how Bethesda fucked it up and it's nothing like it was supposed to be, its over 7 years old now ffs, how hard would it be for a small studio to make a spiritual successor and make it the way Paul Wedgwood intended from the beginning, it could have magnitudes more fidelity than even a fully realized Brink could ever have.


81cd14  No.15683526

>>15683329

Because to get as far as they did and fail took the simulation game man trying to make Sim Universe with an EA slush fund and steadily having it get hacked down to size for one reason or another by one party or another before splatting out a mediocre toybox with nothing much to do. How well will 'a small studio' fare trying to make five or so games in one with reasonably accurate biology/physics simulation, good RTT and RTS gameplay on a global map, customization of everything, and zoom out to galactic scale? On a technical level, if they did it then, they can do it now, but where are you going to find the expertise? And if you find the expertise, where do you get the funds reliably?

Crowdfunding is a gamble based on when you decide to reveal your preliminary work and at what level of completion. Investors are going to be leery, and if they do buy in, they now have wedged themselves in to seek changes for return on their investment, and they are bound to be dumb fucks who don't care about sustained profit or the successful fulfillment of the product itself, only how they can pump and dump you for the highest cash in-cash out ratio.

>>15683389

The game is not Wright's original vision, and it's distressing to see this contrarian meme forced lately. It was consented to by Wright that his vision be compromised by the 'Cute' faction and the streamliners, who wanted to cut the game down to a glorified toy for children. The notion that EA themselves played a part in this streamlining is intensely plausible but ultimately unknown, as nothing has seen the light of day.

Instead, you have the definite information early post release regarding a Team Cute vs Team Science schism which paints a picture of backbiting, hamstringing and abandonment of prior work, and a later leaker who said that the teams' efforts were scattered over tens of different prototype builds that hadn't been optimized or bonded together into a single game; the tone of the latter always came across as indirectly apologistic to the very people who'd be responsible for destruction of any unified direction, somehow. But for whatever reasons, subversions, real hurdles or those merely imagined by the devs, the good stuff was scrapped, and they redeveloped from there. Substantial time was no doubt wasted stitching over holes left by taking out this or that mechanic or metagame complexity and having to figure out an 'easy' substitute.

In short; with or without EA applying pressure through the faction we already know existed that contradicted Wright and eventually brought him to compromise with them, the original vision with harder simulation, proper body physics, more complex tribal & civilization stages, and who knows what sort of space stage metagame, was abandoned. Wright then took the bullet by saying, 'oh well I gave this change in direction the OK, so it's my fault, don't blame the streamliners that twisted my arm to get there.' We have no reason not to be suspicious.

Now, years after the fact, we get people like you covering the asses of Chris Hecker and the Creature Sneaker crew, folks with more responsibility than Wright for the subversion by being its initiators, by taking his claim of responsibility at face value and ignoring all context of it being a PR firefighting move when angry fans were demanding Chris's' head on a pike for crashing the game with no survivors, by making sure the last couple of years of development weren't spent polishing final versions of the 2005 demos and getting them properly linked together, but making a shittier parallel version by ripping things out and patching them over again.

It makes me rather suspicious that it's a low-intensity astroturfing effort to subvert and 'disprove' a core mythology, a foundational truth of the 'fuck AAA devs' school of thought on /v/ and elsewhere, that, mismanagement or Wright's grudging consent to a direction change or no, this potentially wonderful project was wrecked from the inside out by insipid faggots and disinterested profit-minded corporates more than anything else, as is continually happening today. In fact, the insipid faggots tend to run the show now.

After all, if Spore's failure can somehow be pinned on Wright alone just by repeating this faggotry every now and again, so the thinking may go, it somehow 'disproves' this model of thought and retroactively wipes away all observation and all existence of the entire downsliding trend of great projects getting meddled to death by dumb fags. And then the dumb fags get to pretend they're the visionaries, the real hot shit, as they ruthlessly trample over their preceding betters, rushing to fingerpaint all over the walls with hemorrhoidal shit in their filthy new intern hives.

Or it could just be one man with bad opinions sockpuppeting a shitpost thread. Either way, it's probably not worth this much effort spent in reply.


b44bbf  No.15683551

>>15683526

You obviously have not read this:

https://www.designer-notes.com/?p=654


241e77  No.15683568

>>15683526

>"How well will 'a small studio' fare trying to make five or so games in one with reasonably accurate biology/physics simulation, good RTT and RTS gameplay on a global map, customization of everything, and zoom out to galactic scale? On a technical level, if they did it then, they can do it now, but where are you going to find the expertise? And if you find the expertise, where do you get the funds reliably?"

You are overestimating the difficulty, the issue maybe finding people with expertise to make such a realistic game, but heres an example of why you're wrong, this dude by himself copypasted equations he found on the internet and was able to make a scientifically accurate space warfare simulator https://childrenofadeadearth.wordpress.com/

If a one man show could pull that off, imagine what a devoted dev studio could do?


b44bbf  No.15683670


241e77  No.15683681

>>15683670

because the janny scum kept archiving it in under 2 minutes from when i posted it


b44bbf  No.15683707

File: 10765bc17660f13⋯.png (188.82 KB, 412x494, 206:247, 10765bc17660f1334a46cb33a9….png)

>>15683681

But (You) just outed yourself as a crossposting cuckchan migrant. This thread's point is moot now.

There's excuses for crossposting, But you just had to crosspost on the very board where the exodus started. You didn't even cover your tracks. /v/cuck is absolutely shit and there is no excuse for browsing there. You're a fucking disgrace.


b74c2f  No.15683709

>>15683329

take a look to thrive from revolutionary games studio, they need help programming and general game stuff , it stinks like vaporware but we can dream


b44bbf  No.15683711

>>15683709

Thrive is shit and will never be finished.

Stop shilling it.


241e77  No.15683714

>>15683709

>"it stinks like vaporware but we can dream"

there are a few projects out there like that, but they are basically wanna be spore knock offs, like i said, the whole idea, can be taken much further, like really far.


d688ee  No.15683723

File: 050797912d24840⋯.jpg (116.64 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Kringe Spore.jpg)

><15683389

><15683423

><15683478

><15683490


e57b46  No.15683768

Let's be honest here, Spore was a "You can do anything!" game. Even if Maxis had delivered what was originally planned it would probably have fallen short because the hype was largely built on you imagining the fun you could have with no guarantee the devs would be able to match your imagination.

Also the whole "multiple stages" shit screamed "lacking focus" which in hindsight was a red flag.


52f4f0  No.15683775

>>15683768

Yeah, it was pure hype without much real potential. The be-all game is a pipedream and just results in a shallow mess.


b44bbf  No.15683814

>>15683775

Like NMS and Brink amirite? hahaha..

No but really, hype destroys games. The games posted in this thread are dead fucking proof.


000000  No.15684278

>>15683329

How hard would it be?

It was never done for over 10 years.

It is that hard.

>>15683334

And this.

>>15683568

Then, find that "devoted" studio and give money to it, if you want it so bad.

>>15683775

>>15683814

Hype is literally a mental illness. It destroys anything, including the mentally ill (hyped) subhumans.

Marketing that resorts to hype is nothing more than scams aimed at the mentally ill and unstable subhumans.


a4e358  No.15685783

>>15683551

good insight, the project was doomed to fail despite Will and Lucy's fight because they clearly had no idea what the game even was and were making it up as they went, that was obvious given how disjointed all the stages were.




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