d2618f No.15670245
How many videos have you seen against G2A ?? Calling it piracy or some shit ? Just really seems fucking stupid since it just seems like shilling for a full priced game and getting angry when it doesn't get full priced .
618d85 No.15670283
>>15670267
They actually lose money because the codes they sell in those sites are bought with stolen credit cards.
74ca32 No.15670289
>>15670267
well id pirate more if online wasn't locked behind 'legit' copy verification :^). turns out drm helps the black market, whoops
d2618f No.15670293
>>15670283
>>15670267
How does that fucking matter ? Why should I be instantly forced too support a developer and by most accounts most developers are greedy even with indie games does it even matter ??
d2618f No.15670301
>>15670277
>only faggots use steam
you using gog Torrents fam
2bfd4e No.15670304
>>15670267
>Developers do not get a single cent from G2A sales.
Maybe if they weren't so inclined to being a kike, they'd still offer physical copies so that customers actually owned the games they bought. With the attempt to use technology to ensure a larger profit margin, they have to accept the possibility of that same tech being used to kike them out of money as well.
12f1e4 No.15670308
Because it devalues digital copies which they deserve
f0c19d No.15670309
>>15670293
Well now you're just being a faggot. Just pirate at that point if you don't give a damn anyway.
12f1e4 No.15670311
>>15670267
Who gives a shit, the secondhand market exists for a reason. This is just it for the digital market
d2618f No.15670321
>>15670309
Why yes liking a cheaper priced item makes me a faggot . do you prefer your DLC 50-40 $ ?
12f1e4 No.15670331
>>15670321
Why pay when you can get it for free is his point
618d85 No.15670333
>>15670293
I was just stating a fact. That's why from time to time devs make those codes invalid. In fact if you want to hurt a particular dev just buy a bunch of his codes with a stolen credit card and bum, you will fuck him over.
499632 No.15670347
>>15670321
>not buying the season pass
t. poorfag
d2618f No.15670357
>>15670304
Nah ! No reason to "own" a game just fill out some shit on steam and you get to borrow it
d2618f No.15670370
>>15670347
>Won't buy season pass
>Poor fag
pick one
6094e0 No.15670380
Where do the g2a keys come from if not from the developers? Are you telling me that entire website has been selling stolen/fabricated keys the entire time and they haven't been sued into the dust and all their fake keys invalidated?
74ca32 No.15670394
>>15670380
sometimes stolen credit cards. usually a game goes on special in another country and someone buys a ton of copies or someone buys a ton of copies in a country with shit currency. it pretty much just gaming regional pricing
d2618f No.15670399
it also makes it much easier if it's blocked in your country
618d85 No.15670406
>>15670380
They don't get sued because G2A is in Hong Kong. The code part has happened.
d2618f No.15670419
>>15670406
They also have headquarters in Poland
618d85 No.15670432
>>15670419
By the short research I've done I can tell only the customer support is there. The owners are polish too so it wouldn't be crazy to think they were a polish company but relocated there in order to avoid getting sued.
d2618f No.15670472
>>15670432
Doesn't the E.U. restrict businesses like fucking crazy ??
d2618f No.15670487
>>15670432
Though again this all goes back to the premise what is acceptable ?
lower price games ? Nope
Steam codes ? Nope
Torrents ? Nope
How morally obligated are we when we buy a piece of fucking software
cd88fd No.15670623
>>15670293
Because, my underaged cuckchan rapefugee friend, if you don't want to support the devs, you pirate the game. If you do want to support the devs, and you buy from a key selling site, you're just paying some kike who had nothing to do with the creation of the game you're attempting to support.
This is really basic shit, I don't know how you're having difficulty understanding it.
d2618f No.15670725
>>15670623
>underaged cuckchan rapefugee friend
Jesus just call me a cod kid it's much less effort . also again going back to my previous point why should their be principals in shopping for an item ?
>item is banned in my nation (can't buy it on morale grounds)
>game costs 75 $ (can't buy a lower end price because it would hurt developers)
>Software costs 2K and is obviously overpriced (can't pirate it on morale grounds)
000000 No.15670750
>>15670245
>>15670267
Steam is shit and paying for any entertainment is for retards.
Fun is always free.
All developers are greedy and incompetent leftists, so they don't deserve any money anyway.
3b196f No.15670754
>>15670293
If you don't want to support the dev, don't buy the game. Either pirate it or don't play it. Buying from a key reseller is just putting your money through a shredder for no reason. It's maybe excusable for AAA multiplayer dogshit but why would you want to play that anyway?
618d85 No.15670756
>>15670750
How can be games fun if they are made by incompetent leftists?
>>15670725
Mate, you need to learn proper english.
8380e0 No.15670785
>>15670245
Pretty simple answer:
The only real reason you have to pay actual money for a videogame is if you want to support the developer and you want him to make more games.
If you're buying games second-handed or from third parties and the dev gets no cash from that, you're defeating the entire point of paying for videogames. You might as well pirate and get 100% discount instead.
Seriously, the faggots that pay because they are afraid of the law or simply can't be arsed to deal with piracy are high caliber faggots since they are also missing the point.
But if you care about the developer and want to see him prosper, you would not "buy" their game from any source where the dev gets nothing from it.
If you just want to play the game but you don't care about the dev, pirate it of course.
This is why every game should be released for free with the option of supporting the dev on the side. Maybe even open source as well.
Anyone that actually cares about supporting the devs they like have the option to do so and in whatever amount they think is fair while everyone else that doesn't give a fuck and just wants to play a videogame gets exactly that with no fuss or cost.
Notable exception for used games, not because they are necessarily better but because you often can't find a game for sale anymore and have to rely on older copies so there's nothing to be done at that point for the Dev.
e1c98c No.15670797
>g2a
Why? They cost too much and try to get you to pay more on-top incase the stolen key you got is Flagged.
There are legitimate key sites with better prices.
188af0 No.15670806
>>15670785
You forget those high caliber faggots are actually a hilariously large portion of the population. I do think donation/support based markets are a thing of the future, but definitely not with current day's populace filled with autistic third-worlders who are the cheapest bastards on earth.
8380e0 No.15670821
>>15670725
>why should their be principals in shopping for an item ?
Because in the end, it's the customer that holds the power to decide the future of the market.
Because of this, you have to be conscious of your decisions when forking over cash.
Note: nobody is saying you HAVE to give money to devs if you don't want to support them. But if you're gonna get a key from G2A or similar, why wouldn't you pirate instead? Cheaper price to boot and you'd support the dev in equal amounts.
If you pirate everything or buy keys from G2A, what the dev sees is nobody buying their game, so even though there may be thousands of players, to the dev the game is a failure and he won't make any more like it. Other devs may also see that and decide against making games like it as well.
This means that pirating\buying keys from third parties is seen as nobody having any interest in the game by the devs because it presents them the exact same "symptoms".
Now, if you're in a market choosing what your next product is and you see that a CoD clone or another BR game has tons of people buying and playing it while another RTS or arena shooter gets nobody buying it, why would you NOT make another CoD clone or BR iteration?
>inb4 just make good games and I'll buy them
Making good games is the dev's part, paying for them and supporting the devs that make good games is your part, so worry about that.
As long as the mentality of "there are no good devs, they are all greedy" like >>15670750 and >>15670756 prevails, then only greedy devs will prosper and you'll get more shit games.
If you remove yourself from the market as a possible consumer, the only people left are normalfags and devs will have to cater to them.
8380e0 No.15670837
>>15670806
It doesn't make a difference since those fags wouldn't pay in the first place. Having the game being free or costing money nets the same revenue to the devs.
And even, there's something that can be done there. Imagine if DOTA\TF2\whatever was released for free, with an option to pay money to support the devs.
Except, if you support, you're placed on different servers.
For instance, the Premiun accounts in TF2 (anyone that has spent at least 10$ on their store) would play on servers with other Premium players too, maybe even having the option to play with the regular players as well. You'd have a clear incentive to support the devs without actually having anything in the base game locked from you.
And let's be honest, everyone would give 10$ once if it meant never having to play with third world scum.
618d85 No.15670846
>>15670821
Hey, I was making fun of him by pointing the flaws in his logic.
0df00e No.15670856
>>15670725
Nothing on principal you do you. However if you refuse to support a game you enjoy them whine that there are are not more games like that you're retarded.
8380e0 No.15670881
>>15670846
1- There are no flaws in his logic. Buying keys from third party sites is enabling jewery and useless. You're not supporting the devs so why would you actually spend money instead of pirating?
2- It's not adressed exclusively to you, don't take things personally in an Anonymous board, everything is written for everyone.
There's too many faggots here that will advocate for everyone to remove themselves from the market as potential consumers and then complain when devs don't pander to a playerbase that doesn't exist anymore.
The same faggots will also call every dev greedy while at the same time demand that every videogame be free or they'll pirate.
People have to be reminded that voting with your wallet is the only power they have over the market and it speaks lowder than anything SJWs can do or say in the longterm.
I have this theory that it's either SJWs or /pol/ trying to undermine vydia, the first because it doesn't want competition or to be chalenged, the second because vydia is degeneracy to them
Fortunnaly there's still people like >>15670856 so I know that not everything is lost and this board is still worth visiting.
b65b1b No.15670945
>>15670881
Why not both? Both want the same thing really, control of disillusioned men.
d2618f No.15670946
>>15670797
When I used G2A as an example it was again an example the whole point of this was too say that steam codes or codes in general are morally not a problem . especially if you can't buy it in your country or can't afford the game
d2618f No.15670955
>>15670821
For the last time
Read the damn study . when I post a picture of it isn't for aesthetic reasons , also I'm not going through all those individual argument points I'm not ADD
https://www.please use archive.is/2017/09/22/eu-suppressed-study-piracy-no-sales-impact/
618d85 No.15670959
>>15670881
I was talking about >>15670750, nigger. Just read what I've written.
0b0da4 No.15670973
Steam won't let us sell our accounts to hedge our losses from worthless PC games. They are sucking Dev dick.
0b0da4 No.15670984
>>15670973
All purchase of PC games are a total loss. Steam and game developers give nothing back. No reward.
618d85 No.15670988
>>15670984
Nowadays not even physical games are worth as almost all the content comes from updates.
a48b36 No.15671286
A lot of people consider that the only reason you would ever buy a game is to support the developers and if you don't care then you should just pirate.
Therese people are also ignoring the fact that legitimate second hand market for video games have existed for decades, but they will respond that with digital games(Syeam, GoG) there is no physical scarcity such as with cartridges or dvds. That might be true, but what I am trying to say is that people will buy second hand games either to complete a collection(especially for retro games) or because it's just cheaper to buy it. Just like with consoles, and I have never seen anyone say that you should always buy consoles first hand to support Sony or Nintendo, and if you buy it from someone else you are scum.
I personally have another reason for using G2A, and that is to legally own a game. With all the anty-piracy laws that have passed and probably will pass here in the EU I am more paranoid with using torrents. So if I desire to buy a game, but don't care that much supporting the developers publishers I just buy it from G2A. Maybe the game was bought with stolen money, maybe not, I don't care and neither does the government, but the publisher already received some shekels from that initial buy from China or Russia.
Lastly I doubt publishers or self-publishing devs or even indie devs, care that much if some faggot on Steam bought their game using their money or somebody else's money. They will just kvetch if that fagot letter sells the game to somebody else, because that's a lost sale for them and it's the reason why EA, for instance, are against second hand markets such as Gamestop, than with piratebay.
7de2f9 No.15677239
G2A is good if you want to gift multiplayer games to "friends" who would not buy them otherwise, that's probably a significant part of their sales.
Can also be used to deny shekels to jewish dlc ridden games that are actually good. Especially cunts conering very niche markets. There is no reason to buy singleplayer games on g2a.
ba580f No.15677917
>>15670267
Maybe they should stop trying to make you pay way too much for just a piece of digital code? The prices for a physical copy i can sort of understand, but when the digital copy is more expensive than buying shit physically, i don't understand a thing how that is possible.
Also, i don't trust steam. Better to pirate.
be695d No.15677973
If you want to support a videogame buy it. If not pirate it.
But normalfags think stealing is wrong so they have to justify their actions. That is where key sellers come in. Key sellers prey on the guilt of the normalfag. People who buy games on deep discounts think they are better than pirates and are supporting the game industry.
Just fucking pirate you hypocrites.
f3f7a9 No.15677981
>>15670797
>There are legitimate key sites with better prices.
Which?
be695d No.15677989
>>15670394
God I would love to see an end to regional pricing. Dutch prices for everyone! That will be 69.99
4e3208 No.15678753
>>15670750
>this fucking autist is still alive and the site is so full of newfags he gets legitimate replies
73a810 No.15686206
>>15670267
>Developers do not get a single cent from G2A sales.
Good.
f8e96b No.15686221
I'd rather not support slavnigger subhuman criminals and various other third worlders.
f8e96b No.15686236
>>15671286
>Therese people are also ignoring the fact that legitimate second hand market for video games have existed for decades
Not for PC games it hasn't.
917fae No.15686243
>>15670267
didn't g2a sign a deal with devs after that, so they get some percent now?
a3d3fd No.15688846
>>15686221
Better than game devs tbh.
5a487e No.15688859
>>15686221
>being this mad at slavs
>not directing that anger towards things that deserve it, like international jewry, Nintendo, or Hugh Jackman
778f3b No.15688864
you know how GameStop ruined boxed copies?
this ruins whatever is left after that
22bdda No.15688872
>>15670245
>How many videos have you seen against G2A
Several, and several of them have also been from people who were once sponsored by G2A and only made those videos when said sponsorship was dropped like jilted lovers.
76714d No.15689033
73a810 No.15693491
>>15688859
Slavs are white niggers.
1c9647 No.15704506
>>15670267
That's a good thing.
a19780 No.15708477
>>15677973
>But normalfags think stealing is wrong
Let me steal your shit, Anon. C'mon just give me your wallet, or are you some kind of normalfag?
b38a73 No.15716395
if its not on
>>>https://goggames.goodolddownloads.com/
then it isnt worth playing tbh
2eda8e No.15716401
>>15677973
>pirate
>stealing
b38a73 No.15716415
>>15716401
you wouldnt download a car .jpg
c9ee99 No.15717654
>>15677981
Greenmangaming is probably one of them or playasia if you like to get scammed by chinks
c3619e No.15718737
>>15670245
people buy steam games using fake credit cards and then sell them on G2A for a quick buck, sure they're selling at a loss, but the procedure makes it untraceable to track down the guy who bought said game with a stolen card. At least that's what I've been told.
999348 No.15719935
Buy a game through legitimate sources if you want to support the dev.
Buy a game through a key reseller if that content requires online verification, thus ruling out the possibility to pirate the game
Pirate the game if you don't want to support the dev
a48b36 No.15719966
>>15670623
How about I don't want to support the devs, but I don't want to risk being arrested by the government, so I buy a technically legal copy of the game?
Also are you against buying second hand games, by the same token?
702b66 No.15719986
824fbc No.15720055
>>15670370
If $40 is going to significantly impact your finances, you're poor. Buying season passes is dumb regardless however
642301 No.15720159
The G2A hate literally comes from reddit.
Indie devs would look for pity, fame and money on reddit by saying G2A is selling their keys illegally. Then the conspiracy theories started coming ("it's stolen credit cards", hacking, etc). In truth, G2A usually asks these developers for all the "illegal" keys so they can blacklist them from the market. But the developers never send those key lists.
Add this to people being idiots and buying keys from low rated/new sellers, and you have a PR nightmare.
There isn't really anything wrong with the site. If you like having achievements or need to get a multiplayer game, or just want something without supporting the developers, it's a good place to go. There's often really good deals on there, with a lot of good games going for a couple of cents or around a dollar (like FEAR).
843c78 No.15721252
>>15720159
>a lot of good games going for a couple of cents
Actually? I hate steam, but a couple cents doesn't sound half bad.
7db15d No.15721426
>>15720159
G2A is a shitty smelly chink site, but you can see how it's not actually getting criticized for being a shady random reseller, because otherwise they would just not use it and never give it any attention.
No, they do it because they can't stand anyone giving Valve competition in PC gaming, in this case by selling their games for cheap. Even if it gives Valve some portion of the sales, they just can't let anyone that isn't muh based volvo being independently successful in PC gaming.
Reminder that G2A only got banned from Steam because of reddit complaining, which reflects how Valve is influenced and controlled by redditors, along with the 99% of PC Gaming that Steam controls. If you use primarily use Steam to get all your games, your vidya is literally controlled by motherfucking reddit. Why did you think reddit started the whole PC Master Race bullshit?
cae9e6 No.15721532
>>15719966
>How about I don't want to support the devs, but I don't want to risk being arrested by the government, so I buy a technically legal copy of the game?
It's called using your neighbor's wifi or using a VPN. If you're that concerned about getting in trouble with the gov for pirating a game, you should stay off this site as a whole because loli porn is considered CP in a lot of countries.
>Also are you against buying second hand games, by the same token?
Against it? Not really, at best that money you spent on a used game could of been better spent elsewhere, and at worst just it amuses me when anti-piracy fanatics start squirming and do some hilarious mental gymnastics when you point out that a used sale is a lost sale for the developers.
cd1684 No.15721609
>>15720159
>It's a good place to go [if you want something without supporting the developers]
Just pirate it you dumbass.
27ecb0 No.15721656
It's just that paypiggies start to seethe when they realize someone else is getting literally the same product/experience for less money or even for free.
c39855 No.15721706
Who gives a shit? Just never buy anything at all from big publishers (EA, Activision, etc), never pay for freemium shit and obey pic related (though due to inflation it's more like $30 now).
1f03c1 No.15722511
>>15670725
What if I don't know enough about tanks to have a favorite?
8e6675 No.15728724
>>15670277
Dubs of truth. /thread
000000 No.15729513
I have a friend in Turkroachistan who showed me around 65k$ in his G2A account. He has friends in Ukraine and other shitholes like that. They basically arrange so that stuff is bought cheap-ass from shitholes and resold to 1st world cucks. He also sells for CS:GO keys, tens of pages upon pages of keys in his Steam inventory, it doesn't end. He also brings cigarettes and wine from those and sells it in his university dorm. He's really entrepreneurial (kike minded) I admire him.
So Steam is basically a pleb scamming pyramid disguised as gaming platform so you need to use it like that. That and for playing Valve games.
e5345f No.15729536
f801c3 No.15729543
>>15728724
Shitty waifu you got there.
Whats with those malnourished twig arms?
b98b88 No.15729545
>>15729513
I will laugh my privileged European ass off when regional pricing is abolished due to first worlders buying games with third world accounts.
Although it probably isn't even a problem anymore. The industry switched to microtransactions.
79cc6e No.15729563
What other anons have said. Not all their codes come from credit card fraud, though.
A lot of small-time devs get scammed out of download codes by bots claiming to be various YouTubers or review sites. Sometimes they actually set up a professional looking website to back up their claims.
The dev thinks, what the hell, they've got nothing to lose and fork over some codes without doing any research. Free exposure, no money actually lost, and they're likely starving for the exposure.
Bam, the scammer gets some codes to sell for a quick buck. Usually just one, but they might go for five at a time if they've got some plausible excuse, like a fake review outlet. Rinse and repeat with every new release, even if 1/100 dumbasses fall for it, it's pure profit.
t. dumbass
I've learned my lesson. It's annoying, but I didn't lose any money at least. More annoyed that I got my hopes up and fell for obvious horseshit.
358ece No.15729654
>>15729563
Actually, I wonder what kind of percentage reseller sites ask on their sales. If it's less than 40%, you could sell your free codes on there yourself as a dev and get a higher markup on your limited number of codes than normal sales.
000000 No.15729817
>>15670245
Because you are mixing together the disadvantages of pirating and those of buying, while having a significant chance of being scammed.
>>15671286
>I personally have another reason for using G2A, and that is to legally own a game.
If you're paranoid about torrents, why not be wary of buying stolen keys?
The latter is much easier to trace back to you.
a81c82 No.15729824
>>15670245
These days a lot of those key sites actually get the keys straight from the game companies. The companies actually prefer you buy from these key sites because they don't have to give 30% of their sales revenue to steam.
a10c20 No.15729832
>>15670245
we just like to bully fags like you
8f308e No.15729939
>>15729824
I like the one on the right. And not just because she's not a lesbian.
e2f55e No.15729948
>>15729939
Thanks for signalling that you love Japs. Color me shocked
be7386 No.15730386
>>15729654
Its funny. I sold a bunch of games on an auction site and payed 0% commission.
No wonder Jews hate physical media.
1b8061 No.15730395
>My posts at the beginning of the thread were deleted
the hell?