/v/ - Video Games

>>15655050

It's Kennett's blood.

>>15655050

It was Kenneth's. I thought that was perfectly established in game

>Best game

REmake. Resident Evil 0 is alright too.

>Best character

Barry

>Best girl

A tie between Jill, Clare and Sheva

>REmake 2

It's going to be shit. It's been about 20 years since RE2 came out, and during that time a lot of the people that made RE a great had lef (specifically the director/producer of most of the major titles in the series Shinji Mikami), not to mention it's being made by modern Capcom. REmake was amazing because not a lot of time passed between the original and REmake and while some members of the team left, Mikami was still there at the time, so an apt vision of the series was still able to emerge.It's been 15 years later and if the trailers are anything to go by, the graphics are going to look worse than a 15 year old game, and it's going to ride the nostalgia train for normalfaggots hard so expect casualization up the ass and half the game becoming a movie.

>Best port

PC is objectively best because you can mod it, but anything but the PSX Dualshock Directors Cut is fine. They each have their perks

>>15655159

*Claire

>>15655084

>>15655096

>>15655159

I figured as much still wanted to see if anyone had any entertaining theories though.

>>15655130

>Executer 4D

>Canon

I fucking hope not. There's no way in hell you could destroy that virus/monster entirely. It would essentially be if The Thing crash landed anywhere but Antarctica.

>>15655130

I don't know why people keep reposting that pasta as autistic as I am for RE I wouldn't recommend anyone to play all of those. Play 1, 2, 3, CV & REmake and if you make it that far play the others.

>>15655050

>>15655196

Reminds me, I think I had a dream about 4D Executer the other night.

Shit was nasty.

>>15655284

I like that pasta for some of the port information but you're right. I hope one of these days an autistic anon that's actually played every port of every game can weigh in on what to go for.

>>15655327

That sounds fucking horrible anon.

>>15655050

>Best game?

None of them

>Best character?

Barry

>Best girl?

teenage Rebecca Chambers

>worst girl

old Rebecca Chambers

>REmake 2 shilling/trashing/hoping

looks ok, too many buttons prompts

>Arguing over which is the best port of every game

PS1

>>15655050

>Best game?

ReMake, because a whole lotta love that Shinji Mikami gave it

>Best character?

HUNK, before all the plans regarding him were dropped and his game got stolen by a Leon knockoff

>Best girl?

Why Lady HUNK of course

>REmake 2 shilling/trashing/hoping

They change the tone and a lot of the characters, Irons is a fat fuck pedo, Sherry now knows the monster stalking her is Daddy-G Birkin, and Ada Wong is a not-so-subtle spy. Other than that, they better be working the little details, looking at Claire being a mechanical robot switching her weapons nonchalant while fighting G was immersion breaking, fucking Nips at Capcom,work on those hidden mechanics you used to do, like you get better weapon use/aim every time you kill an enemy with said weapon on em

>Arguing over which is the best port of every game

Why PC of course, those crazy Latino/Spanish mods by those autist is pretty amazing.

>>15655679

I like your tastes anon.

>HUNK, before all the plans regarding him were dropped and his game got stolen by a Leon knockoff

Excuse me?

>Irons is a fat fuck pedo

I keep seeing this said but have never seen any proof. I'm not doubting it or you anon but I've just never seen it.

>those crazy Latino/Spanish mods by those autist is pretty amazing

What mods do you mean?

>REmake 2

It's going to be shit.

This is so true, it will turn a masterpiece into a forgettable action trash novella to be forgotten a year later, while the original with its clever "static camera" will last as the legend it is. Crapcom is just another pozzed NuDev who doesn't get anything, least of it its own legacy. Sad.

And what's more, there was a perfectly good remake done by a couple of guys which was almost complete, before they got shut down by these kikes. Fuck em.

>>15655748

I seriously hope this game bombs and people get fired over the way they infected RE2 with aids. But most cucks and nu-gaymers will likely prevent such a scenario. We have only these NPCs to blame…

>>15655763

>>15655748

Hmm…

>>15655727

HUNK was supposed to get his own game, cruise ship and still working for Umbrella, was supposed to showcase the organization that Ada was working with and the consequences of his retrieval of the G-Virus, it was abandoned because Mikami did that deal with Nintendo to have exclusive Resident Evil games on the Gamecube while Capcom did spinoffs for the PS2, hence the creation of Resident Evil Dead Aim with Not-Leon Kennedy and Not-Ada Wong, with the t+G-Virus that turns you into a Tranny-Tyrany.

And it's the tone and design of Remake 2 Chief Irons, he's a fat psychopath who creepily kidnaps Sherry while playing games with Claire, he doesn't have that corrupt asshole alpha who went insan-vibe from Resident Evil 2.

And vid related, from Ruskies to Huelanders to Spainfags, there's a lot of fun mods.

>>15656464

Anon, irons was always a fat, balding sociopath (atleast after 1.5 got scrapped), he had been investigated for rape and murder before.

>>15656464

Damn that sounds awesome I still hope we can get a full HUNK game or even spin off series that can sate the fans of the action-style games while the main games try to stay straight survival horror.

>>15656555

I don't know if you're aware of the fanmade patch for Resident Evil 1 PSX Dualshock that makes it more like vanilla but that's my personal favorite way to play anon! I do have to ask why you find the original console releases of REmake and 0 to be better than the PC re-releases though is it just personal preference?

>>15656599

Yeah I agree with you on that one.

Another question for the thread am I the only one who'd love to see a full release Raid Mode game similar to Mercenaries 3DS but with just a heap of content from the entire series history? The Mercenaries/Raid Mode are like the only reasons I got RE6 and Revelations now that I look back on it.

>>15656754

those keys are kinda cool but fuck buying that shit, you have to be crazy

>>15657562

DBFZ seems to bitch slap MvCi in every area. Your still a fucking tard for buying a collectors edition Anon.

>>15657562

Looks about the same. Just would look better at a different angle and in certain lighting. Not falsely advertised, just very limited in how it would best look on someones shelf.

>>15657610

Why do you buy stupid shit? I mean it's fine to buy real sculptures, but that shit looks like plastic trash.

>>15657624

I like the source material, plus I like how these pieces of cheap plastic look.

Polite sage for derailing.

Pretty good video on why fixed cameras are baste.

>>15657777

why did you hop threads to shill this shitty fucking video

>>15657793

Literally the first time I've posted it.

>can't post anything on /v/ without provoking the paranoids

>>15657777

You don't deserve those quads.

>>15655826

>>We'll start with the fact that the cameras were fixed due to hardware limitations.

<<Silent Hill was full 3D on the same system. If you mean by full 3D in control, there's also Forsaken.

>>Developers used to scroll sprites across the screen because they couldn't render polygons.

<<While saying that, he's using footage from a game on the SNES, which did had several games using polygons that was produced on it.

>Well, this is a shit video, OP.

>"Hardware limitations" is just a buzzword that idiots, who know jack shit about games that actually exist (Or (((conveniently))) ignore them), use to justify their shitty argument about how "modern games are better".

>>15656752

Nemesis is a modified Mr. X, which is a clone of a buff russian dude.

>>15657761

The entire tone of the games are changing, you might as well look as RE7 and REmake 2 as a soft reboot that's completely alien towards the rest of the series if you can still say that this is pants on head retarded when everything, when everyone's redesign is fucktarded trash while the first Remake game stayed true while offering something new, this is a whole new level of change that completely differentiate it from it's predecessors, and you still don't get it. Fine.

>>15657821

I didn't read a previous thread. Sue me.

Also, you're being autistic, and not getting the point. Yes, the PS1 could render fully 3D environments, but they were inevitably low on detail, and pre-rendered looked a lot better. That's a hardware limitation.

Similarly the SNES COULD render polygons, if you wanted zero detail, and single digit fps. Hardware limitation.

Stop being a sperg and taking everything at complete face value.

>>15657824

No. I don't know why everyone on /v/ thinks everyone else is part of a pool of like five posters. Do you know how many people come here?

>>15657777

Ive argued about that before, the big difference between RE 0 to CV and 4 to 6 its not so much the camera, but that they threw the whole structure of the game aside.

In the original games, engagins enemies was a drag on your limited resources wich made the treck from room to room safer, so it was an exchange of health for ammo (we are assuming you arent an untouchable speedrunner that breezes through the game without getting hit once), in RE4 to 6, you are encouraged to engage enemies since thats what gives you ammo and money.

From what weve seen in REmake 2, zombies dont drop anything other than body parts and you need to look around for ammo wich is limited, so that alone makes it more like the original games than all the ones from 4 onwards.

>>15657839

What a way to give no fucking arguments anon, ive explained to you how irons always looked like a fat, crooked fuck that was an evil bastard, and all you can say to me is that its changed withouth arguing how.

Now make an actual argument or quit this stupid discussion, because this is taking us nowhere.

>>15657840

>Yes, the PS1 could render fully 3D environments

>That's a hardware limitation.

>Similarly the SNES COULD render polygons

>Hardware limitation.

<An aesthetic choice is a hardware limitation

>>15657845

>What a way to give no fucking arguments anon, ive explained to you how irons always looked like a fat, crooked fuck that was an evil bastard, and all you can say to me is that its changed withouth arguing how.

What a way to also keep circling back to only your arguments while not giving a fat fuck about his new design vs the old one, nice tunnel vision dumbass.

>Now make an actual argument or quit this stupid discussion, because this is taking us nowhere.

I did, you pretty much kept sperging that he was always a "Fat crooked fuck", nice to see you don't seem to view subtle changes in both the old and new designs, like body type, the goddamn face, and the acting by the new one, but chop it off with me not having an argument, now fuck off back with you ignoring what I wrote and pretending to be this fucking dense.

>>15657856

>not giving a fat fuck about his new design

He looks the fucking same, only now hes fully gray haired instead of balding.

>nice to see you don't seem to view subtle changes in both the old and new designs

What changes you autistic fuck?

I have never. EVER seen or heard of anyone that thought that chief irons looked imposing, hes a fat, corrupt cop, thats his thing.

>but chop it off with me not having an argument

Your argument is that now he looks like a fat pedo, he was always a fucking fat creep, the only change is his hair color.

>>15657852

There is no way to make a game with environments that look that good in full 3D on the Playstation.

There's no way to make a sidescroller that looks as good as Yoshi's Island with polygons on the SNES.

Those are hardware limitations. What aren't you getting?

Also, we can even put aside the fact that he picked a SNES game as an example, and observe the simple truth that sidescrollers were born in an era when 3D was not possible on the hardware.

Oh one more thing before this thread derails because of that sperg who keeps spamming his worthless youtube videos, keep projecting about your self-hatred on Irons' new design, fat fuck. I'm sure the description of "Crooked Fat Fuck" applies to his old design, blind retard.

>>15657904

They apperently have 2 different stories, they changed the AB scenario with a single scenario per character but much more expanded and with new areas, including more of raccoon city's street from what they have shown and apparently a church from that first trailer back at the E3.

>>15657868

>Also, we can even put aside the fact that he picked a SNES game as an example, and observe the simple truth that sidescrollers were born in an era when 3D was not possible on the hardware.

They were experimenting with 3D graphics as far back as 1961.

<Here's the first animation to use 3D graphics, which was produced back in 1972.

>>15657925

And the NES could do that?

>>15658086

Bring me one image of a Playstation game that looks as good as the pre-rendered backgrounds in a Resident Evil or a Final Fantasy game, without making use of any pre-rendering.

>>15658099

Quick question:

Before I do, how exactly would you determine whether or not the image would be defined as "looks as good as the pre-rendered backgrounds"? You keep stating that "pre-rendered looks better", but you never explain why?

>>15658153

it literally just does, you can argue artistic style but that's a different argument. nothing on ps1 looks better than re's pre-rendered backgrounds, on a technical level

>>15658153

Well, if you prefer jagged, blocky, polygons, that's your choice, I guess.

I just quickly glanced over a playthrough of Megaman X 3, and I'm pretty sure this is the only 3D effect in the game, by the way.

https://youtu.be/oz0iKde4inU?t=2866

>>15657610

Did I strike a nerve, Pedro?

>>15658303

Anyway, we've gone way off course. Given that Capcom decided they wanted the backgrounds to look a certain way, and the only way to achieve that look on the playstation is pre-rendering, which locks out fully 3D environments, is that not a hardware limitation?

>>15658347

Dino Crisis 1 is an ugly grey corridor.

>>15658364

These rooms tell a story. It's so easy to imagine a city council member making a half-hearted attempt at reassuring the people that the situation was under control when he and everybody he was with in that room knew damn well that everything was fucked and they had no idea what to do about it.

Also, we've all been sidestepping the actual point, that fixed cameras were born of hardware limitations, not that Resident Evil specifically was. I don't know what the first game to use fixed cameras of that particular style was. Probably Alone in the Dark, but that was almost certainly a necessity of hardware limitations.

>>15658430

There doesn't seem to be any standards regarding who wears the knee pads, and who wears camo.

Also, camo, and bright yellow?

>>15658646

And, how this all plays back to Resident Evil is that the design in gameplay that Capcom wanted to pursue, after testing out they're FPS prototype, which probably looked similar to Quake, Duke Nukem 3D, and/or Star Wars: Dark Forces, they decided that that isn't the style of game they wanted to pursue or were not impressed with the results. Then, they saw AitD and decided that's close to what they want.

Please tell me I'm making sense because I'm pulling my hair out trying to explain my position, and it seems like everything I'm saying doesn't come out right.

>>15658456

>here doesn't seem to be any standards regarding who wears the knee pads

The ones with knee pads are likely the ones who would complain about knee pain otherwise.

>>15658678

You DID watch the video we've all been arguing over right? Because the entire point was that even if something was born of limitations once upon a time, it can have it's own value, and doesn't have to be cast away once those limitations are surpassed.

>>15659034

Who were you playing as?

>>15658456

>>15658482

You are not thinking criticality enough, S.T.A.R.S. was probably never intended to be on the receiving end of gunfire.It was funded by Umbrella, likely only meant to be a test run for one of Umbrellas projects.

It would be good data to see how a variety of body armor and camo works against zombies.

>>15659036

I turned off once he brought up "system limitations" and that that was the reason why RE had fixed camera angles.

>Because the entire point was that even if something was born of limitations once upon a time, it can have it's own value, and doesn't have to be cast away once those limitations are surpassed.

But, RE's camera system was never the result of a limitation. It was a stylistic choice that carried over into other games such as Fear Effect, Martian Gothic: Unification, and Deep Fear, and even 3D games such as Silent Hill, Dino Crisis, Carrier, ObsCure, Eternal Darkness, and Curse: the Eye of Isis.

>>15659209

I don't know what was going on at capcom, but it seems likely they would have made the choice to go with pre-rendered because it looked a lot better on PS1. If that's not true, you can still say fixed cameras as a concept were born of limitations, because the first game to use them (Alone in the Dark, or something older) wouldn't have had a choice.

>>15659356

I would guess the game came out looking like Survivor, and they dropped it because the limited Playstation graphics didn't convey the scary atmosphere they wanted well enough.

>>15659283

>If that's not true, you can still say fixed cameras as a concept were born of limitations, because the first game to use them (Alone in the Dark, or something older) wouldn't have had a choice.

They did have a choice, however it was just too much for the systems to handle. What happened with AitD's development is that Frédérick Raynal had just come off from porting Alpha Waves (The first 3D platformer) to DOS (First picture: >>15658646 ). Seeing polygons as the "future" of gaming, he made his next project to make a game using 3D human characters, and based it off of his love for horror films. He built an entire engine for human body animations, but environmental 3D was just too demanding for systems. So, he scaled things back to allow for scans of photographs to use as the background instead, which still proved to be requiring too much, and then finally settled for using hand-drawn images instead.

>>15659356

>It is indeed a stylistic choice, because it gives the dev power to use the frame just like in a film, which can provide lots of opportunities to do some framing tricks.

Reading it up, that's also why Raynal stuck with using the fixed camera angles instead of shooting for another method of creating a 3D world.

>Best game?

RE2 or REmake, still torn between both.

>Best character?

Barry

>Best girl?

Rebecca

>REmake 2 shilling/trashing/hoping

It's gonna be shit, no doubt about it.

>Arguing over which is the best port of every game

PC. The guy who's currently working on finishing 1.5 is also making patches for RE1 and RE2 to make them playable on modern systems. As far as I know, he's also currently porting Mortal Night to PC. The RE4HD mod is looking absolutely great.

>>15659071

Jill.

>>15659065

I saved over it assuming there'd be some kind of New Game+ like DMC1. It's not that big of a deal, I just want to slap myself in the face for not spending a few more seconds looking around in the power room.

>>15659753

>The RE4HD mod is looking absolutely great.

I wish it didn't take up so much harddrive space really 50GB+ for textures is like modern AAA tier. But the results are fucking amazing.

>>15659036

Most hardware limitations is actually "devs don't know how to do this because they're delving into unknown territory for the first time", or "we can do it but it's too slow or not worth the effort", and graphics i.e. Golden Eye characters are basically point level animation only morphs with photos plastered on.

>>15659800

You missed a ride back home with chris and jill handholding.

>>15659753

> currently working on finishing 1.5

I tried to look this up but didn't find anything obvious. Is he finishing the game that was supposedly 70% complete?

>>15659800

Which terminals did you use?

>>15657610

>nothing wrong being a buyfag

wrong

>>15659443

how new are you?

>>15661399

As far as I know, he's collaborating with a team that is trying to finish the 1.5 that leaked. He's made a custom engine so that it'd be less of a pain in the ass. Look up Gemini. A few years ago he released vidrelated, which I think at first was just an experiment to test the engine which grew into its own mode.

So capcom just confirmed that the original costumes are in the game as unlockables.

Oddly, claire's classic costume is even more revealing than in the original game.

>>15661786

where are her biker gloves?

>>15662180

In the same place as her turtleneck.

She lost the t-shirt with turtleneck but now her shorts and spats are shorter and shes wearing a sleeveless shirt under the vest.

>>15664639

It is pretty much the same thing except for the sleevless shirt.

I still do not approve of the fact that new claire is a discount zoey.

>>15661786

Journalists kvetching begins in 3…2…

>>15655130

>imagine being this retarded

This image cracks me up every time.

>>15679712

Much better honestly.

>>15679696

Well, if not, people will believe its DLC, like many here (including me) feared it would be.

>>15679712

The top undershirt makes the design more balanced and appealing, I think.

>>15679910

>That video makes it seem like Kenneth was attacked and killed in the room where you find his body

Wait, that wasnt the case?

How did his body get there then?

>>15679932

In the original it could be assumed Kenneth was attacked in the dining room (blood puddle) and the fight dragged to the corridor where you find his body.

REmake bodycam footage makes it seem like Kenneth was fine and dandy till he got jumped in the corridor next door to the dining room and the whole attack and killing took place there.

>>15679974

I always saw it as 2 different events, then again, i never really put much thought into the blood pubble.

>>15655050

What a mansion!

>Best game?

RE2 REDS

>Best character?

Leon

>Best girl?

Jill

>REmake 2 shilling/trashing/hoping

hoping but most likely going to be trash

>Arguing over which is the best port of every game

the ones that I played

are the revelations games worth playing at all? I sorta wanna play 2 because Barry is in it but I haven't really messed with the series at all since 5

>>15680148

The only good thing to come out of Rev2 is the loli.

>>15680210

>The only good thing to come out of Rev2 is the loli's dark alt and Barry canonically soloing the final boss

Fixed that for you

Halloween special's up

>>15686996

it's really aged like wine. The sound and art design is just genuinely scary and even though I've played it a bunch of times, it doesn't get any less frightening the more I play it. That's what worries me about REmake2. So far it looks good but will it hold up like REmake has?