03a0b1 No.15653994
Anyone else likes it? I especially like it when it actually makes sense. A small spoiler about arcanum, but when you make it to the underground of p schuyler and sons with the zombie dwarfs and the necromancer, the way they explained how the dwarfs likely were a no-name clan since it was buried in the city, not in a mountain fort, actually made sense to me. Too bad that far to often, being bad means that you practically have to be cartoonishly evil.
f5ed59 No.15654015
In the Director's Cut Shadowrun:Dragonfall, you can side with the bad guys and spread a genetically engineered disease that kills all dragons
The game rewards your attempt to get rid of the reptilians by with some bullshit ending where their absence causes transdimensional eldritch abominations that cause the apocalypse.
At least the outro sees the Big Bad who has been trying to kill you for the better part of the game share his booze with you as you stand side by side and watch the world die.
e37146 No.15654021
>e-celeb makes video about game
>thread about game magically appears
6912e5 No.15654024
>Arcanum's bad guy
>Argued that life is literally hell and death is a soul's only saving grace, and that no soul once dead wants to become alive anymore, so he argued that life should not exist and everything should die so as to ease everyone's pain
Was he right?
f35cde No.15654039
>>15654021
The fact that you know about said E-celeb means both you and OP should go back.
f5ed59 No.15654041
>>15654024
He might have been if he had tried to make people understand his philosophy instead of murdering everything left and right.
84d516 No.15654061
Every game where you play as the Allies in WW2
65ca61 No.15654132
>>15654024
In-universe, sort of. It's explained that there's basically only heaven and everyone goes there, so life can only be worse than death. But Vergil on the good path dies and comes back wanting to do good in life and argues against him.
Realistically a relatively short period of life vs. an eternal afterlife would seem to be a small thing to suffer through if bad while if good would be worthwhile to life since there's something that can't be done in the afterlife there. If you talk to Kerghan with enough diplomatic stats he'll agree and only pursue his personal death.
The real question is why there isn't some kind of crusade to end the black necromancy that can permanently keep someone from reaching true death. You meet a guy in the tutorial area who is cursed to the exact same "eternal pain" that the main bad guy is just for the crime of common banditry. A truly righteous end would be to eliminate this form of magic somehow.
6912e5 No.15654178
>>15654132
I realize now I never did finish Virgil's route. I should go for another playthrough as soon as I finish the more immediate games in my backlog.
357daa No.15654339
>>15654039
yeah, better only absorb information in this one forum and nowhere else ever, that would be pure
14b998 No.15654365
I'm actually in the final bits of an Arcanum play right now, just doing all the sidequests before I go to Vendigroth. Just did the ancient gods quest. It's a shame you don't get any special dialog with the researcher for returning to him after the final quest.
What are the requirements for fucking the dark elf leader? I know I did it on a previous play, but my max beauty max charisma max persuasion character couldn't do it this time.
7e1ca0 No.15654537
>>15654365
Don't you need to be a woman? Maybe you brought an excess of dick along.
0b21a4 No.15654630
>>15654039
>ssethtzeentach is for cuckchan/redditors
What?
14b998 No.15654634
>>15654537
Was playing female, still didn't get the option.
ceef4b No.15654792
>>15654039
Seth is a cuckchan thing now, is it?
fb1924 No.15655032
d3feef No.15655094
>>15654015
The Horrors are kinda of the ultimate bad guys in the shadowrun and earthdawn setting and been around for the 1st edition of each tabletop game. Yeah, killing the dragons is a bad idea. Horrors are fucking badass.
6912e5 No.15655095
>>15655032
>troika is long dead
6bc6fd No.15655183
>>15655094
Why arent they in the new games then?
ac7462 No.15655287
>>15653994
There is this time in Soul Nomad where you side with the evil guys by becoming evil yourself but it's just as you said, the evil side is nonsensical and evil for the sake of evilness.
cc89a2 No.15655303
>>15653994
Most of the time these options exist in truly free RPGs. The kind which actually live up to their name and let you pick and play a role.
In E.Y.E. it's a bit hard to discern the bad guys, and by that I mean that the war seems utterly pointless. There is no good side, only death but you can switch sides late in the game.
The original Infinity blade let you join the villain if you got his health bar down far enough, but that's mobile shit which will fade into obscurity in a few decades.
>>15654630
>>15654792
Come on, anons. Don't you know that popular = bad?
3976d1 No.15655308
>>15655032
Your words cut me deeper than any blade anon
6169c6 No.15655435
>>15653994
Their arguments are just a distraction though. Why does it matter if they are some no name clan or not? They are still being used as undead slaves.
572cbb No.15655689
>>15655435
That's is true Not to mention that if you side with them, you'll kill the dorf, the future king of dorf kind. If I'm not mistaken, if doesn't finish his quest, the dorf kind falls to ruin?
03819a No.15655787
The first Way of the Samurai let you fight all the way up to the big bad, then join him as his right-hand man. Afterwards the two of you have a great time oppressing the town but it all goes to shit along with the fall of the shogunate anyway.
46b824 No.15655820
>>15655787
But it ends with you getting assassinated as the traitor that you are for betraying your allies.
3a78ab No.15656281
>>15655413
>direct linking to reddit
a05488 No.15657106
>>15654021
>>15654039
E-celebs are actually good.
baa94f No.15657147
aa2e78 No.15657172
>>15653994
>using a bunch of dwarf corpses
>bad
33f71d No.15657316
>>15654015
>The game rewards your attempt to get rid of the reptilians by with some bullshit ending where their absence causes transdimensional eldritch abominations that cause the apocalypse.
Well yeah but that's the proper lore setting.
The dragons are dicks but killing them is a terrible idea.
d28b19 No.15657322
>>15654021
It's npc behaviour.
Npcs playing a video game is like an actor watching one of his own films.
53d712 No.15657497
>>15655183
Because the devs were more obsessed with toeing the line than giving us severe horror where the monsters you fight WON'T STAY DEAD regardless of what you throw at them.
b24003 No.15657508
The only bad guys in Arcanum are the (((gnomes))). Prove me wrong.
1e2e05 No.15657738
>>15654015
>by with some bullshit ending
Welcome to Shadowrun, motherfucker.
13dec0 No.15657753
>Post removed.
>When the joke was that it was a recruitment thread for Goonswarm
>Bad guys
>In EvE
>In a thread about joining the bad guys in a game
Sasuga janitors
0b3c55 No.15657764
>arcanum
I could never get into this game despite how many people praise it. Steampunk settings are honestly pretty gay and I have experienced no connection with my character to the game setting.
>blimp crash
>oh you're the chosen one
>let me guide you through this retarded steampunk world
Bad start.
a05488 No.15658305
>>15657147
They are the most important source of alternative, non-mass media culture. A 17 year old reviewing video games from his bedroom makes Polygon weaker, people uploading funny videos to Youtube steal viewers away from TV. They can be bad, they can be shills or whatever, but the traditional Western mass media will necessarily be terrible, so any alternative to it is good.
4988c8 No.15658321
>>15653994
fuck off with this redditor bait cuckchan shill
6912e5 No.15658346
>>15657753
Should have thought twice before going against Mark and his commie cabal, faggot.
5115b6 No.15658473
>>15658305
>alternate media sources that aren't corporate owned voicing their opinions
Good
<some little faggot e-celeb with a video game channel that sucks off modern video games
Not so good
9e3241 No.15658512
>>15657764
If anything the game is a subversion of the chosen one trope, but you wouldn’t know because you didn’t play.
f392c0 No.15658560
Who are the bad guys anyway? Do you think Davis ever said "I think we're the baddies".
f392c0 No.15658580
>>15657106
Ecelebs deserve death.
Just some guy who made an interesting video that has 50k views? THAT is what YouTube used to be about. But I'm old.
19f357 No.15658586
>>15658560
History is always written by the victors. Who the “bad” and “good” guys are is determined by whomever wins. If Chiang Kai-Shek had won the Chinese Civil War then the whole of China would be like Taiwan. If the Confederacy had won the Civil War than Lee and Jackson and Jeff Davis would have been viewed as liberators in the eyes of everyone but butthurt Yankees. Also, Lincoln wouldn’t have been lionized, because they don’t give failures statues. The South would have gotten real chummy with England though, and would have entered WW1 and 2 as soon as Britain asked.
34386b No.15660292
>>15658305
>They are the most important source of alternative, non-mass media culture
Just because it's an alternative doesn't automatically make it good.
>A 17 year old reviewing video games from his bedroom makes Polygon weaker
But are often fanboys who will obnoxiously shill or defend bad games and practices and strengthen those positions more. E-celebs do this a lot and then their fans will parrot their shit far worse then the media because of the Cult of Personality.
>people uploading funny videos to Youtube steal viewers away from TV
But promote patreon-guzzling faggots that e-beg and create a following that you can't criticize as easily as you can with the media because their fans will defend them for anything. E-celebs are just as much of a problem as the media when it comes to information sharing, just in different ways.
sage for off-topic e-celeb
b99146 No.15660393
>>15658586
Pretty much this. And more often than not, the victors are usually scummy because they are willing to use underhanded or outright inhumane shit to gain advantage over and win the war and if they win they can write that out while slapping some hot cow shit on their enemies.
Examples including Washington assaulting the Brits on Christmas Day which during that period and time is pretty much like assaulting your enemy at the hospital when he went to see his wife giving birth to his first child; and the WW1 trench gun issues, Germany said that according to the Hague convention of warfare weapons that causes unnecessary suffering is outlawed which includes shotgun (see Kurt Cobain), of course the US, Brits, and frogs gave zero fuck and the kikes in the international court also did not, causing Germany to went full nationalism and broke through the fucking scale because they do not trust anyone any more after that shit.
All is fair in love and war my ass. Just lying old pricks who does not want to get hanged because they are war criminals.
f0b885 No.15660701
>>15660292
You talk as if onw were forced to watch and like all e-celebs
>>15660393
Shotguns were a meme, they were shit for the time and especially trench warfare.
88fe5e No.15660761
Ecelebs are bought and paid for by the marketing parasite. INFLUENCERS