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>>15645194

The places are interesting, but the way the world fits together is just stupid. There's a drangleic map in Majula that shows an area that generally makes sense but the bonfires on the map do not fucking match.

>>15645194

>Thats the only complaint people ever list, yet apparently Drangleic is still the worst world map ever designed.

<Not the dumb impossible space with stuff looking absurdly far from Majula and then being just a jog away

>Not Ruined Forkroad where the three paths actually exist in the same space

>Not the killing the four lords to go through the shrine of winter when you're otherwise being stopped by some very easily passable rubble

>Not the No-Man's Wharf which should be completely underwater

People do tend to shit on DSII a little bit more than what it deserves and it does have some pretty good vistas, but holy fuck the world is a disconnected mess.

Dark souls 2 had the worst combat and balancing and was ass to play and the bosses were shit. Like the only reason I ever beat it was because the entire time I cooped it with my brother and he tanked enemies while I spammed Dark Magic so neitger of us really had to deal with the retarded tracking the hitboxes have.

Felt really skill-less and kind of like a more traditional RPG with more of an emphasis on stats rather than skill

That being said I think it actually had some of the best levels aesthetically, like the dragon cave was really cool and every level seemed interesting. All the expansion levels were fucking rad. I liked all the poison areas.

>>15645283

Dark souls 2 had the clunkiest movement and animations but if you had any trouble with any of the bosses its because you were just bad, not muh hitboxes.

Dark Souls 2's world is disconnected because the original director left the project and didn't explain to the guy taking over how it was all supposed to fit together. It quite literally is a patchwork game. Regardless, still more memorable than Dark Souls 3.

DSII the mechanically better game of all dark souls

unironically fallout 3

Not sure if the sentiment is the same nowadays but I remember when GTA SA got shat on for having a lot of wasted space. Sure, some of it was never utilized in missions but it was rather charming and atmospheric (although part of it might be just me loving crude low poly stuff). I find it much better than the map of Vice City which had some odd designs like a big empty airport, sprawling empty backalleys and a hugeass mostly empty beach that takes nearly half of an entire island.

dark souls 2 is a hallway

>>15645386

Fallout 3 doesnt get ENOUGH shit. The story makes no sense, the world makes no sense, and the gameplay is the worst thing bethseda has EVER shat out.

>>15645287

>>15645283

What the fuck are you on about? Dark souls 2 had the best animations for attacking and staggers. It had bad animations for launches.

>>15645381

Yes and mostly because the damage calculation formula actually allows for weapon variety and build variety. That is it. DeS, DaS, DaS 3, and BB all suffer from the same fucking shit damage calculation formula that destroys build and weapon variety.

>>15645399

Dark Souls 2 literally starts with 4 different areas to select from with sequence break options. It only goes to a hallway in the later half. Every area of demons souls other than world one are hallways. Shut up

>>15645570

Only 2 of those areas are actually accessible to begin with. You can open up a third if you buy the Silvercat Ring for 13400 souls, which pretty much requires that you go to Forest of Fallen Giants at minimum. The fourth route doesn't open up until you find a fragrant branch.

>>15645386

unironically kill yourself

>>15645570

The movement is terrible, everything about it feels slowed down. You get used to it, but coming from DS1 or DS3 you can feel the sloooooow.

>>15645194

I got about 30 minutes into dark souls 2 before turning it off and never booting it up again. The map sucks. The game play sucks. The leveling up mechanic sucks. The character animations suck. They really captured lightning in a bottle with Dark Souls 1. DS2 was dog shit.

That shit looks like wireframe model without textures.

>>15645386

Nah, they made the entire setting look and feel like it was nuked yesterday, not 200+ years ago. Most of the settlements were retarded and didn't fit logically fit into the world.

>>15645283

>using the word "like" in that context

>typed, so it wasn't even a verbal tick

>>15646875

Could be a non-native speaker who picked up wrong habits.

Dark Souls 2 is unironically my favorite souls game. Yes I know Miyazaki didn't work on it.

>>15645410

>Fallout 3 doesnt get ENOUGH shit.

There's a master thesis on why fallout 3 is trash and the fans were right.

>>15646657

They do this every time because they're incompetent hacks, they're afraid that if they took it the same turn as the original writers it wouldn't be "authentic" post-apocalypse. They also do it for superficial vicarious pandering, like how they overemphasise Vault imagery.

>>15645283

>rad

oh how I love your out of date words, so 90s! very trendy, bring back le 80s and 90s. I'm gunna start using the word swell because I love le1920s! You think you're so cool and hip using words like that but you and your kind just come across as hipsters.

>>15645194

>Ignoring valid criticisms to hack down a strawman

>meme spacing

You're on the wrong site kid.

well hello there Hbomberguy

>>15647740

haha lamo this kid is so fucking mad on the internet ROFL?

>>15647750

So Dark Souls 2 apologists are rad bros who get to show their sweet fingerboard kickflip skills to President Trump?

>Dark Souls has never made much sense.

>A major factor of the world was that it was hard to imagine living in it because of the scale and architecture.

>This is established within the first hour of Dark Souls 1 by the way the buildings you see don't make any sense and seem sculpted by people who only had a passing knowledge of what a human is and how they'd live.

>Why does DS2's map not make sense ????

The world has never made sense. That's the point. The world has always felt constructed by something you can't even comprehend. Humans weren't the masters of this world either, as far as I know it was giants. The laws of the universe are not our own.

>>15648022

This. The setting is meant to invoke a sense of primordial mysticism, hence why the lore is only one step above Cthulhu and the old ones in terms of logical consistency and coherence. The impossible space is meant to evocative of a sense of mystery and wonder at the seemingly nonsensical and contradictory nature of the world.

>>15654241

This.

Ash lake being underground is mystical and chilling.

Lava lake being above the clouds is some dumb bullshit.

Learn the difference.

>>15648428

>The impossible space is meant to evocative of a sense of mystery and wonder at the seemingly nonsensical and contradictory nature of the world.

Either that or the team were given a short deadline and they had to cobble everything together for release.

>>15647236

Can you post it?

>>15647750

>>15647963

this

that is WAY too rad for DS2