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No? You fucking homo?

I guess, if you're perfect at the game? "The goal" kinda varies depending on who you ask.

>>15620018

God fucking dammit those textures look like shit, no wonder modern console games use tons of even worse post process to hide such things.

Also I still can't believe I was stupid enough to finish my first run of the game without going to BBI first.

>>15619960

Yes, of course, unless you count periapts as curatives (they aren't).

>>15619937

I tend to stack a fuckton of healing water, its good when I want to run solo or to go without a healer.

>>15620082

I already went through the everfall once so maybe I'll just start in hard mode now. I assumed it starts you back at level one. I didn't realize it continues your character.

How would I start again at level one? Is deleting the main game file the only way?

>>15619937

Yes

>>15619960

Gitgud

>>15620917

>DDOn global when

You don't want that.

>>15619937

Dragon's Dogma was supposed to be a multiplayer game, but it all went to shit and now the pawn system is all that remains of the original idea.

So no, you're not supposed to play without curatives. You're supposed to play without pawns and with other people.

Case in point for these MMO origins, is the pickaxe with limited durability.

>>15621389

Selene.

She moves in with you anyway though, so in a sense it's a waste to make her your beloved. Aside from the game point of view, she doesn't have much competition for best girl. NTR feminist princess is obvious shit. Madeleine probably fucks fat old men for money, and she has cowtits. She-goat might have been okay but she probably slept with half the army.

The true best beloved is obviously Fournival.

>>15621585

Is this in the base game?

>>15620133

Back it up and start a new save. No need to actually delete it.

>>15622028

yup

>>15622101

Yes. Why would you want to start from scratch though? Other than being bored of your lvl 200 and wanting some new challenge maybe.

>>15622190

Stats can be impactful if you min-max. That is, if you make a pure magic build for example, it will make a difference vs. jack of all trades builds. But you'd be locked into the magic classes forever. It doesn't make much sense to do that since the game isn't so hard as to require min-maxing.

>>15622199

I ended up having a red, blue, and yellow class all before level 50, so I'm pretty middle of the road right now. My concern is I'd prefer to play as mystic knight, but I've put so many points into yellow.

>>15622210

Level 50 isn't too late to start leveling up blue classes yet. You're still good.

>>15622220

I'm 70 now. When is too late. I kind of only want to start new vocations each time I restart the game. So I'm limited to how many times I can change vocation.

>>15622210

Sorcerer gives a much better stat distribution for magic damage than any of the other classes, but I think they're very low on stamina.

>>15622511

It doesn't take that long to collect and place eight port crystals all over again.

>>15622767

Going through the mid game is a huge drag.

>>15621001

>Gone was the ability to mix and match skills

This is absolutely false. One of my favorite things to do was take elemental archer's HP regen by damaging enemies skill and use it on warrior to make myself nigh invincible. The game is a piece of shit, but you sound like a retard when you make statements that are just flat out lies to make the game sound worse. You really don't need to try to sprinkle vomit on a pile of shit to make it look worse.

>>15623038

In all honesty, wizards of the coast should either take this formula, or hire this team to produce something for the Forgotten Realms, and just create a story out of that. Similar concept, similar travel, just add something for the other classes and races. I mean if they were feeling absolutely ambitious, make the new game randomly select whatever the endboss would be. It's just throwing darts into the ether at this point, so it's all just speculation. Obviously no game could truly recreate the magic and creativity that DnD has that would involve choosing your own path, seducing/murdering whatever character/passerby, rezzing them, raising them as a corpse, buying an unholy amount of livestock just because, setting fire to whatever building you liked, creating or starting your own guild/faction, going from making a leaping strike on a cyclops to fapping into their eye, and just all kinds of other shit. It'd be too much and too many variables and options that any devs that took on that kind of ambitious project would be stuck in development hell.

>>15623019

>What I find infuriating is for all the DnD knock offs, they keep subjugating healing to just the mage class

I consider this a huge fucking plus after the billion or so games with bullshit black mage/white magic separations we've gotten over the years. Especially since video game healer classes are almost never plate wearing battlemages like DnD Clerics are, they're pathetic pussy dress wearing priests who don't get any decent offensive options at all. It's bad enough they ditched the generic mage class entirely and split everything between Sorcerers and some new heal bitch caster class (and turned the magic archer into a healer as well) for DD:online.

>>15623120

part of that is that they keep putting the classes and builds in those games as a pre-minmaxed one size fits all. In DnD, at least, no two clerics were the same. One might've been good managing spells while the other was a mobile wall of iron and muscle that could lay on the heals.

>what's different about the battle clerics and the paladins - an anon may ask

For one thing, the cleric wasn't restricted based on character alignment. Sure there were deities and spells back then, but paladins were lawful good (or lawful stupid depending on how someone played the paladin) that was considered the deity's strike force for specifically dealing with undead and anything evil while still having some bestowing of healing.

And around 3rd edition was when wizard was met with sorcerer class. Where the idea of the sorcerer class was that it was considered the magic was innate within the caster. At a price, they couldn't learn as much as the wizard could, but could cast whatever they knew.

They should bring back the cleric and give the option of if they want to be the dress wearing healslut or someone who can still be a pain dealing mace fucker with spells, and leave the crusading genocidal strikeforce to the paladins, while still keeping the fighter/warrior still different from paladin or cleric. Fuck these lazy ass devs that decided to just mash them all together for sake of pre-minmaxed shit and muddy things up to the mess of classes we have now.

Does anyone… anyone… like that crystal-shattering soprano singing you have to endure when you start the game?

>>15621054

>Post your pawn name, lvl and vacation

Vagoona/Vega, level 15ish, and Disneyland.

>>15623316

Nope, I mod it right away, I am tempted to make my own mod, got a few songs in mind.

>>15623319

Reyna, Warrior, Lv 34ish, she either holds the enemy in place or just smashes them, I taught her how to use the sprinboard maneuver.

>>15623316

Tempted to put this one.

>>15623191

>Where the idea of the sorcerer class was that it was considered the magic was innate within the caster.

it was mostly, "we need a way to explain away why there are low INT stat monsters living out in the middle of a swamp casting wizard spells".

>>15623403

I got that one, still, I would like to do something that is not just another version of Forces (as much as I like the song.

>>15623536

I swear! it is not what it looks like!

>>15623536

that sequence never made much sense for a female arisen. "Oi! There's a woman in the queen's chambers. Clearly, she must be a lesbian and is there to seduce the queen!" is not the first thing a guard is going to think in that situation.

>>15623555

When I think about it the jester was making a lot of noise as if to try to warn Filanore so he either was also aware or was even in favor of the NTR.

>>15623602

If you're going for a set for the looks alone you might as well go capeless. The original Dragon's Dogma had capes take up an accessory slot so you were at least compensated for going capeless.

>>15623608

I see, for some reason the lower part makes the hips look a little wider than they really are.

>>15623974

DELET

>>15623316

I never played the console version so it's all I'm used to. The alternate version of it is pretty hype in my opinion

Into Free should be played at the beginning

Eternal Return should be played post-Dragon

>>15624701

I love this song. Where do they even play the full version in the game? I know the lyrics are spread around.

>>15624843

>here do they even play the full version in the game?

They don't.

>>15624855

Well, that's a fucking shame.

>>15625517

I'm such a yellow fever fag, I want to stick my dick in her right now. I bet it would feel nice, warm and tight.

>>15625638

Same here (minus the yellow fever) I even wanted to see if Mexico's China Town would be an interesting place to hunt down for a medium size chink, sadly it turns out Chinese were kind of assimilated for a long time now, which means there is barely any pure Chinese in town and most businesses there have been inherited by the local families.

>>15621600

What about Quina? The source of many of the best items in the game?

Any advice on how to stop the griffin from escaping?

>>15626216

During the quest? He flies away unless you kill him extremely quickly. Wild ones you need to set their wings on fire or have 3 non-small characters dragging it down. Your best bet against them and Cockatrices is to pop periapts and burst them down.

>>15626252

Yeah, the quest, I am no warrior with Arc of Might, I have 4 conqueror's periapt and 25 blast arrows but the thing keeps fleeing before I am able to knock him down with a focused shot.

>>15626266

Use Oil arrows until the debuff sticks. Use 3 star or dragonforged daggers to torpor him. Knock him down. Set him on fire. Pop your periapts and use the blast arrows on his head once he's down. Make sure to have stamina recovery to unload everything while he's knocked down.

>>15626297

I also heard throwblasts work too.

>>15625698

Quina says "hee hee" everytime she sees you because she is recalling checking out your penis while nursing your dragon wound.

Played through the game 3 times, never used Periapts. Did I cuck myself that hard?

>>15626739

Sometimes I use them just to get them out of my inventory. I'm not sure they're very useful.

>>15626783

>>15626739

You can stack 4 of them. It doubles the TOTAL of the targeted stat. Meaning that it multipliers your base stat + weapon/armor values + multiplicative increases from Clout/Vehemence/Acuity/Bloodlust, etc. So let's say your physical attack from base stats and weapon is 1000. With Opportunism, Clout and Vehemence you'd go to 1584. With 4 Conqueror's you'd go to around 3200. So against a Condemned Gorecyclops, you'd be doing 2.6 times more damage from using 4 Conqueror's Periapts due to the damage calculation.

>>15626739

>>15626783

They can be incredibly useful/cheesy but not required. If you leveled in classes with subpar attack growths they can help a lot with high defense enemies since they boost your strength/magick by 25% up to 4 times before defense gets subtracted from them. They're also useful for low level runs or taking out dangerous foes like Death or goreclops quickly.

>>15626688

But anon, the Arisen doesn't have a penis. And everyone knows that if she did such lewd things it would be forbidden.

I am trying to hook up with Vanna (a minor NPC), I just wonder how many loneflowers it will take.

>>15626216

>>15626266

Use the maker's finger. You can buy it from fournival.

>>15619999

Cuck

Do you use cheat engine for Secret of Metamorphosis?

>>15629293

Yep, a lot.

>>15630384

That stupid character in that scene. He goes off on that asinine monologue of jibberish then turns and gives you this smug look like he just blew your fucking mind.

>>15620042

Eliminators can be incredibly obnoxious due to their health and lack of weaknesses; I've found that the best tactic is to inflict torpor/poison, pop four periapts and then just stun-lock him the entire fight with an ice weapon while re-buffing as necessary.

>>15630757

Eliminators are incredibly weak to break attacks as they are charging, as a magician, just power up a staff ball, as an archer, charge up a powered arrow, as a melee there's probably something you can do too, they'll fall on the floor if you do that.

Still no mod to remove the pointless tutorial intro!

W

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>>15630983

There is one but requires you to also cheat in general, here is how you can make one, play the intro and create your character, DON'T pick any weapons, just save, backup that save for future plays using the save managers, you will need cheat engine to get to the character editor in the future, that's it.

>>15630983

>>15631021

It's not even that long. You can beat it in few minutes if you run past goblins.

>>15631038

It becomes tedious for a lot of people.

>>15631579

>>15631830

Maelstrom is ridiculously cheesy because it also has huge knockdown. You can easily knockdown lock even goreclops. However, if you are playing a close range class its totally shit on pawns because it completely blocks your vision. That's probably the reason you don't find it often on sorc pawns.

Ser Julian, destroyer of thots.

What a champ.

>>15631830

If you have a magic pawn then sorcerer is clear and away the best choice because the only thing that mages have going for them - at all - is healing magic and if you need healing in combat you're already in a whole heap of shit. The only downside is that both pre-made and player mage pawns are dogshit so have fun trying to find one you want to hire.

>>15632872

They are sitting on the bench when you stalk Julien.

>>15631830

>Sorcerer

Anon this is more colloquially known as "easy modo"

>>15632932

>you'd see that they are doing jack shit even if they aren't knocked out

Tell your pawn to be more aggressive instead of loot during battle. Take them to a knowledge chair and change it

>>15632872

Gran Soren has this problem where only a certain , rather low, number of NPCs are loaded in at a time. Its especially egregious when you need an NPC for a quest, such as Jasper in Land of Opportunity, Steffen when you need to turn in the tome, Maurin for doing the Hillfigure Knoll visit quest, and Mason for the quest to trail Julien in the first place. There are a lot of NPCs in gran soren you can end up missing entirely if you don't spend a lot of time idling in the square or elsewhere in the city to let them cycle through, Cassardis has a similar thing going on but on a smaller scale. They don't do anything, but you can build affinity and they offer escort quests. Just about every NPC that you can build affinity with offers an escort quest, its insane really.

>>15633233

>>and don't try to bring up inclination snake oil

>proceeds to bring it up

Did you ever try to look at what the fuck they are doing? I fine tuned their inclinations (to scather, mitigator and such) and watched, they still jumped around cancelling their attacks/spells, used whatever spell/attack they felt like using with no regard for situation. Mage has fiery weapons and holy weapons buffs? Yep, have that holy weapons buff to deal with the goblins. Fighter has charge to quickly engage enemies? Better spam the absolute fuck out of it at melee range instead of, say, sweep to deal with the crowd.

If you're a spellcaster and your pawn is a spellcaster it will always be out of aggro range. If it's a spellcaster and you're melee, it will leash to you no matter the setting and get knocked out or start jumping around to avoid hits, cancelling their spellcasting. If you're a caster and pawn is melee, it will never get far enough to properly tank, if you're both melee it might get a couple of hits in before getting knocked out. If enemy is not a humanoid or a basic ogre, they'll get knocked out instantly, because they're clueless. And before you even think about it — yes, I've tried unlocking their knowledge, there's a CE script out there to get full knowledge for your pawn, it does nothing.

If they weren't completely useless there would be at least one video out there of 3 pawns taking down a small gorecyclops on their own, or a cockatrice, or beholder, or drake, or any enemy that's worth talking about. As it is they aren't even good against goblins.

One can write a better AI using 5 tactics slots in DA:O.

>>15633272

Some NPCs, including the ones you've mentioned, enter the city at certain hours of day, there's no chance involved. You simply sleep until the needed hour and go meet them, I believe there are exact hours on DD wikia.

>>15633306

I've ran into plenty of times when I need to talk to Jasper in order to finish Land of Opportunity but the marker on the map just leads to an empty spot where he usually is doing his speech. Rather than being present at certain times, it relies on other npcs following their schedule to despawn to let him spawn in, I tested it extensively back on the PS3. If I couldn't get Jasper to show, I'd either sleep until dawn of the next day, leave the area through the main gate and come back, or quit and reload where he should be standing. Usually the most reliable way I've found is to stand where he should be and wait until he pops in. The number of active NPCs allowed at any given moment is arbitrarily low, you can see this in action with how goblins/direwolves seem to come in never-ending waves with more showing up as you kill. Its not never-ending, its just that there's a stupidly high density of spawns but only a certain amount are in play at once.

>>15633315

I didn't even read the whole thing, you're one of those retards that believe in inclinations, some kind of rituals to make NPCs do what you want and so on and so forth.

1. You sleep until noon.

2. Jasper is either preaching or heading to his preaching spot from the north gate.

>>15633334

You're one of those retards that believe everything you read in a wiki. You can't even sleep until noon, you can either sleep until night or sleep until dawn. Did you even play the game?

>>15633339

My mistake, it must have been the "dinput8.dll hooks" timescale setting I used to quickly skip time. And he would show up at noon, exactly as it says on that wikia.

>>15633345

If you don't know and are clearly less informed on the subject than I am, then why are you disagreeing with me at all?

>>15633355

Why are you wasting time arguing with someone whose major criticism of the game is the fact that his attempt at using cheat engine to manipulate the AI didn't work properly, therefore the AI is bad?

>>15633369

Thanks for your two cents, have a (you) in return.

>>15633355

I know it just fine. He appears at north gate exactly at 12:00 gametime.

>>15633369

I only turned to pawn hack after finding them terrible to begin with.

>>15632854

I look through their spells, hire them if I like a spell, then use them only for that spell.

>>15632932

>never curing pertify

>>15633793

Wrong quotation?

>>15634285

No he's saying blind cure is the only important curative as if petrify isn't the biggest pain in the ass.

>>15634325

For the first one, he was replying something that didn't seem to relate to the hooker NPC.

>>15634342

Oh yeah. I did respond to the wrong person.

>>15635755

I wonder who was the genius that coded affinity in all NPC interactions.

>>15636511

Some hairstyles clips through the tops of some cloaks too. And that looks really bad.

>>15636578

I can imagine it, that's why I usually go for medium hairstyles, in general the game has a horrible selection, they don't even let you access some of the NPC ones either.

>>15634261

Sure, carrying around dozens of liquid vims and panaceas is so very restrictive. You might even have to restock once in a couple of hours.

>>15633793

Petrify is caused by cockatrice, beholder and gargoyle (rarely). Cockatrice and beholder can never petrify you if you're behind it, gargoyle you have to just shoot down before it reaches you to avoid the chance to be petrified, a shot to the head always knocks them down. It's some basic shit, no risk involved, in dark souls community someone would just tell you to git gud.

>>15636511

She's 13, almost not a loli

>>15636712

Can you kill the cockatrice that appears in Gran Soren before it escapes?

>>15636734

You mean griffin? You can if you have enough damage output, there's even dialogue for that, but you miss out on the tower sequence

>>15636734

Yes. Remember Cockatrices are weak to lightning but burning their wings will ground them even though its harder to inflict.

>>15636742

No, the Cockatrice that appears after defeating Grigori.

>>15637972

>what if a female Arisen romances you smart girl

Anon, surely you're not talking about forbidden love?

>>15639282

I sure am talking about it.

>>15639879

Just climb up the stairs and tell them to come. Pawns are a bunch of dumb idiots.

>>15640554

>silverman_shower.jpg

>>15640624

Even Sarah Silverman has a more womanly body than that pawn.

>>15639980

You'd think there would be some way to get the helmet off without the cyclop's cooperation but nope. Wouldn't be nearly so fucktarded of a situation of that was the case.

Your loli pawn IS SHIT

YES, YOURS

>>15640933

She's not a loli, she's a fully grown pygmy Orc!

>>15623316

There was a mod to put Forces - Susumu Hirasawa the song from Berserk in the intro. That was what played in my intro every time, so I enjoyed starting the game.

>>15619937

tfw no dragon bf

>>15623316

I prefer the alt version, but yeah it's alright I suppose. Better than that trash Into Free.

>>15640554

That's brine food

>>15642560

They don't learn anything, though. They just follow you around and it makes people imagine that they're copying something. There's not a single piece of proof on the internet to prove that pawns are in any way affected by your actions besides their inclinations.

>>15642577

There's plenty of proof, sounds like you haven't played the game.

Halfway through the game my wizard support pawn started climbing all the big enemies because I played an assassin. The pawn had no way to attack and no other reason to do so other than the dumb learning system.

Also if you play a mage/wizard and your pawn as well, it will start prioritising the spells it sees you use if they're slotted and they become more reliable casters when 'trained' this way.

>>15642587

No, its Scather inclination moved to the 1st, 2nd or 3rd spot due to the fact that you were climbing large enemies, so it started climbing large enemies according to inclination directions.

They may use the same spells due to the spell synchronization mechanic.

>>15642560

>instead of just letting us program their behaviors directly

Nigger are you retarded? The only thing worth spending RC on in the base game is inclination potions

>>15642592

It didn't have that inclination, I was using books and kept them in check.

>>15642611

>books

Maybe they were potions like anon above mentioned. Haven't played in a while.

>>15642611

Even mages try to topple cyclops by hanging on their legs if you unlock their knowledge, for example, so that's another option. I'm pretty sure my mage pawn climbed the very first cyclops we encountered after I hacked its knowledge.

>>15642592

This is also wrong, Scather just prioritizes the strongest enemy in range, Utilitarian is the inclination that makes them grapple and climb. It's better the more complete your bestiary is but not a great one for casters anyway.

>>15642624

Yeah, you're right about utilitarian.

If you want a good spellcasting waifu set up a Challenger/Medicant, and reverse it if you've kept her as a mage for the heal spell

I'm just gonna repeat this again, there's not a single piece of evidence on the internet to prove that pawns actually learn anything besides the inclinations and knowledge flags, they're also complete trash and there's not a single video on the internet of 3 pawns taking down any serious enemy, such as a smaller gorecyclops, cockatrice, beholder, drake and so on. Stop larping please, every fucking Dragon's Dogma thread has your pawn cancer

>>15642560

I have hired sorcerers that keep dropping the ball, they are less than a second from casting Bolide and they cancel because a wolf sneezed in their general direction.

>>15642608

I mean detailed control over specific actions and the conditions to trigger them. Inclinations are a very weak, unreliable system compared to being able to set tactics.

>>15642637

but you're wrong

>>15642637

I never understood why people have been pushing the "pawns are good" meme for all these years. They really are nothing more than moderately useful support. Maybe because people can have decent freedom in creating them and the role of pawns in the story makes people more attached to them and leads to this obsession.

>>15642822

Well, prove me wrong then. I'd love to be wrong, shitty pawns are pissing me off. I want to experience that feel again, when I installed DA:O FCR mod on its max difficulty settings, fine tuned party tactics and began winning every encounter on first try without having to control other characters even though it was still tough and tight.

>>15642847

Yep, pawns are nothing but eye candy and loot mules. They have some utility, but it's not any better than Autonomy augment. The only actual combat use they might have is that one unreliable spell sync abuse.

>>15642587

If you have two mage pawns, they'll mirror each other, too.

So, how does my pawn sharing work?

Do i need to be online and in the game for someone to pick mine from the rift or is it enough that he has been made and now people can pick him up even when I'm not playing.

Please respond.

>>15643851

He's uploaded to the server every time you sleep in an inn.

>>15643851

You don't need to be online and if you are it will be updated when you rest at an inn.

We actually had a nice pawn sharing list on cuckchan back in the days. Someone dressed up my loli in cute /fa/shion and taught her a bunch of monster lore.

>>15643953

>not being the loli and having a big muscle pawn to haul all your shit around for you

I think it is you who is playing incorrectly.

>>15644101

>Only customizing one loli

That's not enough to satisfy me. I use big second hand pawns for hauling purposes.

>>15644451

It's one of the few games that lets you do it, but if you're not into it I guess that's fine too faggot.

so… is every common enemy a permutation of goblin, wolf, harpy, human and saurian?

>>15644589

I already made a loli. I'm not doing it every playthrough.

>>15644599

No. there's also the ghosts

>>15644599

During the daytime yes. It gets mixed up at night with undead warriors and phantoms

>>15619937

>Dragon Smegma

OwO

>>15644765

Undead warriors are a permutation of humans.

>>15644859

Maybe in model but they don't behave the same way.

>>15644877

Do they move with a player's job moveset?

What are the strongest curatives you can craft in the game? both for stamina and health.

Just started up a fresh file after letting the game sit dormant for a while. Gonna go with an amazon Arisen and a dwarf pawn. Screen shot will come soon.I'm thinking of starting out with fighter until I get the carry weight boost, and then sticking with strider for the rest of the game.

Now, what would be a good vocation for my dwarf and what inclinations should he have?

>>15645087

Fuck you anon. I can't unsee it

>>15645155

Consider double strider or strider/fighter duo. Pawn tendencies are affected by your actions so since you'll be a strider, your pawn will tend to want to climb shit and be close in. Strider pawns can be pretty disgusting if you take away their bow so they only climb and skull split. Give them hundred kisses and whatever that wire grab is and they'll do just fine. You might also want to go warrior at some point for +20% strength aug. After the dragon, you can afk farm town guards in the noble quarters by standing on the church wall for massive DP gains and little exp gains. Bonus if you wear asura chest from a quest and the ring from BBI.

>>15646299

>he doesn't have the watermark removal mod or dinput8.dll hooks

>>15646309

Are tje dinput8.dll mods for a free camera control? does the watermark mod also fixes the resolution issue?

https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/7

>>15646335

Thanks, no free camera?

>>15646257

>Strider

>Shit

Sounds like someone hasn't discovered skull splitter comboed with eminence. Not to mention climbing is usually the safest and fastest way to kill big enemies and climbing is what strider specializes at by having the fastest climbing speed.

Besides, he said he wanted to go strider and wanted pawn class suggestions, so I suggested strider or fighter so any inclinations the pawn gets from him playing a strider would help.

>>15646604

Strider actually does have an innate climb speed boost just by being in the class, though it isn't huge and there's a gauntlet equip which also gives the same effect. It also has a variety of novel skills like mad dash, stepping stone, back kick, snake bite and ensare. While it's true that the sanic spin + eminence is bugged or something and does ridiculous damage compared to other options, frankly you're both retarded because if you're playing DD for anything other than funsies you're doing it wrong. DD is a character action game masquerading as an RPG and you don't see anyone spamming jump cancel->bee stinger in DMC just so they can get easy SSSs. The best DPS is one mirrion periapts + anything u want bby ;-)anyway

>>15645983

>Pawn tendencies are affected by your actions

Just use the elixirs instead of doing this gay shit, unless capcom has been using quantum magic to code DD there is absolutely nothing in the flags that suggests that pawns gain anything from the player other than monster strategies, quest knowledge and tendency changes.

>>15646772

>The best DPS is one mirrion periapts

I play without consumables, obviously it doesn't matter what class you play if you're going to be high on liquid vim with 4 periapts lodged in your asshole unless you're a warrior

I was just pointing out the best classes, I don't get why would they talk about efficiency or whatever if they aren't picking a good class to begin with.

This still matters if you play on hard and with the difficulty mod one can find on nexus, as every advantage would help you overcome damage threshold.

>>15646822

It's not a debilitation.

>>15646831

>Yes, strider is shit, because assassin and arcane archer is better at every thing a strider can do and more.

>Skull splitter is the only unique thing strider has

>plain worse than AoE grand scension

>Except he doesn't [have the fastest climbing speed].

All of these were wrong.

It doesn't really matter whether your playstyle includes you gimping yourself or not it won't change the fact you were straight up wrong about these things. It also doesn't change the fact that he was making a retarded suggestion though. Basically everything (even warrior sometimes) has something going for it so there's no real reason to say that magic archer or assassin are the best classes unless someone is asking for a very specific thing they want to accomplish. If the guy is going to play strider it's not like it's terrible to have a strider or fighter pawn, and the pawn can't even take either of those hybrid classes anyway.

>>15646869

He means the fact that Maelstrom literally blocks out your fucking screen with it's animation

>>15646869

>>15646822

I dare you to cast or have a pawn cast Maelstorm, stand in the center of the spell and then use an eyedropper or panacea.

>>15646874

Reminds me of people who play Pokemon using a varied amount of self-imposed rules and saying the game's true difficulty lies in those, literally barring oneself from using stuff the game gives you.

>>15640554

The worst i've seen is a person who would throw his loli and bully and abuse her whenever things didn't go his way. I remember once he was such a causal he couldn't even kill crows.

>>15646772

except there is a flag for how often a pawn uses their abilities and and another for how often they use items.

>Strider is shit

Someone hasn't heard about Fracture Dart and Hailstorm Volley.

>>15647374

>>15647462

Normalfags are a menace.

>do BBI quests

>get kill the Gorecyclops in Souldflayer Canyon

>see it on the stone bridge across the canyon

>shoot at it with my AIDS infliction bow

>he aggros and promptly kills himself by tardraging off the ledge

It's small things like this or drowning people in the brine that make me like this game.

>>15649817

Focused holy bolt is like the most broken thing in the game.

>>15649845

The downside is when your pawn sees it be effective on small undead, then chooses to spam it in a boss voice and ignore their meteor and maelstrom skill.

>>15649817

>>15649845

I don't know if its a numbers thing or a vulnerability thing but its by far the best affinity spell in the game for anything that doesn't outright resist light. Combine it with Ferocity augment from Warrior and you got a solid, low stamina usage damage build and basically the only viable way to be a mage.

>>15649817

>>15649927

>Only a handful of things have holy resistance which aren't already stacking resistances across the board.

>Longer range than most focused bolts

>Projectiles automatically aim at dudes

>Projectiles travel extremely fast making them incredibly accurate

>Fires several projectiles simultaneously to compound the damage

>Projectiles can travel through walls to find targets

It's a volley gun, sniper rifle, aimbot, and wallhack all wrapped into one absurdly strong package. Making it Holy affinity just piles on more bullshit onto an already overpowered skill. Besides spamming maelstrom it's just about the cheesiest way to get through the game as a mage/sorcerer.

>>15651544

Also forgot to mention

>Causes huge amounts of knockback and stagger

>Costs negligible amounts of stamina

>Can be charged while doing just about anything

>>15652425

It's been an age since I have played the game but I remember going out of my way specifically to get that hat.

If I recall correctly it is random chance from one of those level 1 armor items that are dropped in Bitterblack Isle.

>>15652541

Low chances and your equipment needs at least 1 star upgrade.

>>15651544

Holy best affinity for mystic knights too. Stack a couple of magic cannons and then perfect block with a holy enchanted shield right on top of it for the real 2hu experience.

>>15654235

b-b-b-but you can use panacea or eye dropper anon!

>>15654268

Worst reply ever.

>>15654294

There was some anon who said something like that when I asked if there was a mod to remove the blind effect on Maelstorm.

>>15648426

That's pretty much how I always kill the ogre on the first everfall visit.

>>15654292

Dwarves are fun, really breaks the monotony. I'd like to see some elijah wood hobbit lookalikes.

>>15654377

I think I'm going to need to work on his inclinations, but I think when I go double strider combo I'll just equip him with daggers so he can go all spider man on stuff

>>15640679

strider pawns with good beastiary will start the fight by climbing up to their helm while they're chained up and wait for you to take off the helm if they dont do it themselves and promptly gouge his eye out

>>15654235

>come across five eliminators

>Sorcerer pawn has High Maelstrom

makes it all worth it

>Witch Hunt didn't trigger

What the fuck is this shit? I went back to the fountain square right after Come to Court and it wasn't there, I quit without saving and did Come to Court again and it still didn't trigger, I left the city and re-entered through the door, I ferrystoned out and then back, I tried sleeping overnight and then quitting and re-loading again and it still didn't trigger.

I'm pretty pissed at this point because I have to imagine that if it didn't pop after doing any of that it never will. Could I use a cheat engine to manually start it somehow?

>>15656429

In my current save I got on the Duke's nephew's bad side because I accidentally reported killing the Griffin before delivering the letter.

>>15654292

If your previous pawn was hired and got RC in between you last resting at an inn and creating a new pawn, your new pawn will inherit all of your old pawn's RC earnings PLUS all of its knowledge. My pawn has 3 star knowledge of pretty much everything by now.

>>15623319

If anyone wants to give Vagoona a try, I've fixed her voice so she no longer sounds like a fairy from LoZ.

>>15659001

Yes.

Will Capcom ever make a sequel to this game?

>>15659001

Imagine if Capcom and nips in general weren't completely fucking retarded and could manage mod support for their games. DD has enough of a following that fans could have implemented the missing stuff through the power of autism, with shit like moons and more than three big monsters to fight, and more quests and lands to explore.

Truly a terrible fate.

>>15660490

>more than three big monsters to fight

What are you talking about? DD has five big enemies.

>flying enemy number one

>flying enemy number two

>flying enemy number three (that hovers now and then)

>crawling enemy

>bipedal enemy

>>15660466

I have neither proof nor evidence but I'm pretty sure than Deep Down was supposed to scratch those parts of the itch that DDO didn't cover.

>>15660490

I was thinking more of having an inventory and menu system that's not a garbage fire, red and yellow classes having access to more than three skills per weapon at a time, and being able to actually give instructions to pawns, for a start. Then add enemy variety (especially behaviors), traps, a rudimentary stealth system and some other improvements. I think that aquatic monsters and could be the source of all kinds of FUN.

>>15662358

Deep Down was a Dark Souls clone. It was going to be F2p garbage, other than that it looked neat since it was going for historically accurate armor/weapons/fighting styles but with fantasy creatures.

>>15662786

Yeah, but how do you do that with the game the way it is - use one of the three (3) combat actions you have with any given weapon? It's pretty much that, make it a core skill feature and tie it into the sprint button somehow, or make stealth an inventory item.

>>15662945

Most obvious would be a passive augment that makes your footsteps silent whenever you go into walking mode, along with an activated weapon skill that cloaks you, similar to what saurians have.

>>15664902

Does it actually have any use?

>>15664931

no

>>15664931

PvP areas were planned in the original game design documents.

>>15664902

>>15664931

It makes you invincible but not invisible, which is simply retarded.

>>15669927

>invincible

Even if you get caught in a maelstrom? It may be useful after all if so.

>>15662786

I wish it more shit from traditional RPGs like acrobatics, spellmaking, or a bard vocation

>>15669985

Assassin is hilariously broken, especially pre-DA.

>Invincibility at will

>Haste at will

>At-will automatic counter with no time limit that can be used against virtually any melee attack in the game

>+70% strength and magic and reduced damage at night

>+70% strength and magic and reduced damage when alone (these two stack by the way)

>Highest offensive stat growth in the game

>More weapons (and thus moves) available than any other class in the game

DA nerfed them somewhat but they're still far and away the cheesiest class in the game.

I fucking hate being stopped from casting by a sneeze.

>>15672135

I played Strider then switched to assassin because I wanted to do the archetypal Ranger character (swords + bow) and it worked out great.

I started hard mode and I'm thinking of picking Arcane Archer because maybe some of the augments/skills will be available when I switch back to Assassin. Also could use some Magic stat growth I guess.

Good idea or bad idea?

>>15672150

Try equipping an ogre bone (or two if you don't have wyrmking's ring), there's also an augment to increase your stagger threshold while casting from one of the magic classes. Also note if you're playing on hard enemy stagger damage is much higher, so focused bolt is about the only worthwhile thing you can do.

>>15672350

Augments are completely class free. Multi class compatible skills are visible with an icon available on the skill, you don't learn any skills a class can use but doesn't natively learn from another class as far as I remember. You can learn higher levelled skills in one class and use them in the other (i.e. learn thousand kisses n ranger and use it with a level one assassin) but assassin will eventually learn the skill anyway. Though I think some core skills do carry over for something like the skill to reduce fall damage when equipped with a sword. Magic has no impact on anything an assassin can do and magic archer isn't great for magic growth anyway, unless you mean magic defense. Hard mode is an all around bad choice for first playthrough unless you want to minmax because it raises enemy stagger thresholds so unless you're playing a ranged class or a perfect block build you're basically useless. Strider and warrior can knock down and stagger foes by using the right skills at the right time in normal game with their skills but even the weakest foe will just smash your face in through anything you try to do them in hard, so they're completely unfun to play unless you just want to spam i-frames and safe high damage skills. There's also the excess money factor but it doesn't really mean that much since higher levelled purchasable gear is mostly progression locked.

>>15672401

>ogre bone (or two if you don't have wyrmking's ring)

It's been a while since I played and I just remembered wyrmking's ring isn't a ringslot item and just works if it's in your inventory, so ignore that and equip two ogre bones if you really want your stagger threshold to go up.

>>15672350

Depends on your character level. Getting Assassin augments for Magick Archer is good but as as an MA you really want high magick damage stat and the MA class itself has really poor magick damage growth.

Meaning you'll ideally want to play many lvls as a Wizard before switching to Magick Archer. Wizard also has some nice augments for you. The physical damage stat from lvling as Assassin wont exactly be a waste but magick damage is a bit better and works for all MA skills.

Then again Magick Archer is pretty OP so some people say that you don't need to minmax it very much (but it's fun to do imo).

>>15672401

Not the first playthrough, I finished normalmode and cleared BBI once (didn't fight Daimon's second form).

I was considering running it again, but said "What the heck" and started Hardmode.

I took a look at the Wiki, doesn't seem there's a lot of usable things I could learn as MA and keep when I switch back to assassin (I like Assassin since it's the best class for cllimbing on a dragon and stabbing him).

Not sure If I should just level Assassin then or pick any other class to gain some new usefull augments. Maybe the fighter/warrior has usefull stuff? I could also learn some 1-h Sword skills, I guess.

>>15672436

Nah, I meant that I'm a 98lvl Assassin and I'm looking for new augments/1-h sword skills from other classes. I'd just spec into them until I gain them and switch back to Assassin.

I made my pawn a cute female Knight (shame you can't have Mystic Knight Pawns, she'd be a Paladin) and the pawn learning thing works great: when I'm using the bow, she hangs back near me, usually grabs any enemy that gets close and pins them down, otherwise just stands guard while I snipe hobos. But when I charge in and climb a cyclops, she does aswell and climbs with me. Or I pin down some large enemy and she charges halfway across the battlefield to answer my call and pierce the guy. It's great.

Last time I played on the PS3, I had a Gandalf look-a-like with a Strider Pawn that dished out arrows next to me dishing out spells but for some reason, she started getting close-range with the daggers and used the bow less and less throught the game, no idea why.

>>15672439

>I took a look at the Wiki, doesn't seem there's a lot of usable things I could learn as MA and keep when I switch back to assassin

You're right, where they shine are their ridiculous bow skills.

>I like Assassin since it's the best class for cllimbing on a dragon and stabbing him)

Magick Archer actually has a lot of good dagger skills same as Assassin so if you want a character that is proficient with both bow and climbing shit with daggers, Magick Archer is also a good class.

Magick Archer is slightly better with a bow than Assassin and Assassin is slightly better with daggers.

But they're both classes are really good with bow and daggers.

>>15672439

>>15672451

>I could also learn some 1-h Sword skills,

Again, any weapon skills you learn as fighter you will either A: learn as assassin or B: only be useable as a fighter. I know for certain that hindsight sweep is a fighter only skill and assasin can't use it even if you learn the skill as fighter. Reverse goes for powder charge, clarity, dire gouge, among others. Warrior and fighter have useful augments if that's all you want.

>pawn learning thing works great: when I'm using the bow, she hangs back near me, usually grabs any enemy that gets close and pins them down[…]

That's just guardian/nexus traits. Same for the other thing, use elixirs to change those..

>>15672135

>DA nerfed them somewhat

It nerfed their augements into damn near uselessness, unless you really want to RP as some lone fag that only goes out at night and don't mind manging time heavily to accommodate it. Otherwise you can just get guaranteed damage augments. They bitched out hard with Assassin.

>>15672451

>>15672458

Also I personally like Magick Archer a lot because they have so many cool and flashy looking spells/skills. They're a lot more fun to use than the Assassins.

>>15672465

MA was especially fun in BBI. The close corridors make Ricochet so satisfying.

>>15681345

Try turning the graphics down a bit. Disabling HDR probably will give a bunch of frames.

>>15675796

You sure you don't have another accepted quest that requires Quina's help?

>>15683203

At that point none.

Does armor matter a lot or can I just clothe my cute girl in whatever I want?

Is it worth staying on light encumbrance?

Playing on easy btw, never did that before but after years of playing vidya I finally realized that difficulty only makes you waste time smashing enemies longer.

>>15684184

>not playing on hard to powerlevel and get piles of cash

>>15654215

>MK

It's ironic how the most majikal bullet hell character is also the one with the strongest physical melee weapon and a bigass shield isn't it. Also I used to think that stats don't matter for MK but then I modded my stats at level 200 to make it as if I had levelled him as Sorc for at least 100 levels and he became an even bigger walking nuke, the fact that MKs can also the holy focused deus vult bolts make me giggle all the time during the experiment. MK and MA are OP as fuck with probably a slight edge to MA

>>15672465

I only recently noticed that Magic Rebalancer (MA dagger skill) works as a castable, combined Mage's/Demon's Periapt. What a rapetrain that class is.

HEY EVERYONE, CHECK OUT MY SHITTY OPINION

Magic classes > Hybrid classes > Archer classes > Warrior classes

Apparently stuff from both idol quests should be available to buy from Caxton and Madeleine in NG+ yet they still sell the same shit. Do I have to advance to stage 4 to unlock the extra items?

>>15652425

It's called the Adept's Hat, you can find it behind one of the Moonbeam Gem doors in Bitterblack.

>>15684874

You just need to remember that wolves hunt in packs.

>>15684874

They're not respawning. They just made the packs larger than the amount of monsters that can be loaded at once. If that makes sense. Which it doesn't.

>>15636712

How do you stop your pawns from standing in the way of the petrify though?

>>15685416

Speaking of which, pawns can't into path finding, go to Barta Crags and watch how they keep entering the poisonous lake.

>>15684673

They didn't unlock in my NG+ either. I don't know if it's a bug or if the wiki is just wrong.

>>15688521

We need some more fashion's dogma in these threads.

>>15685184

STUPID PAWN OF COURSE WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS THEY'RE THE POSTERBOYS OF HUNTING IN PACKS

>>15684874

What. When I go from the Encampment to Gran Soren I genocide everything on my way there and they don't spawn back. What the fuck man.

Also:

>try hard mode when starting NG+

>what the fuck, the only thing getting one-shotted is everything except me

>this isn't hard at all!

>fighting some huge cyclops

>his HP is draining like wine bottles in a catlady party

>suddendly he smacks me for 2/3 of my HP, sends my flying into a wall

Ooooohhhh, so it's only hard if they hit me?

>decide to hunt the wyrm in Devilfire Grove

>down in a minute, only got hit once

>welp, time for a challenge

>enter BBI

>OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKK

Now that was refreshing. The gorecyclops didn't stand a chance against Dire Gouge mashed against his eye, but when he grabs me and munchs my assassins, I had to use a curative between the two hits he performs or I'd be dead.

The rest is being a pleasant challenge, though recruiting new Pawns everytime Death pops in for a visit is getting hold. Maybe I should get pawns that are trained in avoiding huge fukken scythes or something.

>cursed dragon

>climb on his chest

>Dire Gouge,Dire Gouge,Dire Gouge,Dire Gouge,Dire Gouge,Dire Gouge,Dire Gouge,Dead

I think I'm gonna do that a few more times, downs the fuckers in a minute and gives some rare mats. If only Garms were this easy.

>>15685553

>give 3 panaceas to every pawn, just in case

>get to barta crags

>they pop all of them in a few seconds

>throw them from the bandit castle for being fucking stupid

>>15688547

Who says anything about romance?

>>15688550

>If only Garms were this easy.

If you're a bow-user you can just buy a few hundred blast arrows to be carried by your pack mules and a handful of periapts. Ez-cheez-y. Seriously though Garm can be really fucking annoying; when one or two spawn in an open area that's one thing but when three of the niggers spawn on you in a dark room already filled with enemies that's another thing entirely.

>>give 3 panaceas to every pawn, just in case

I learned quickly to never, ever give pawns panaceas. It's okay to load them up on stuff for specific conditions (secret softeners, eyedroppers, etc.) but the more applications something has the more likely they are to use it and because panacea cures EVERYTHING and also restores health and stamina it's usually the first to go. Case in point, pawns who are thigh deep in water and drenched popping a panacea, bending down to retrieve an item and getting drenched again, popping a panacea to cure drenched, bending down for another item and getting drenched again, popping another panacea to cure drenched…

>>15687654

Maybe it's meant that you don't have to complete the quest in NG+ to get the extra items you unlocked in the first playthrough? Because I can buy stuff I unlocked by giving Caxton bronze idol in the first playthrough.

>>15688893

Maybe, but I specifically didn't bother with the idol quest because the wiki said that all shopkeepers had their entire inventories available in NG+ from the get-go.

Is exp divided between pawns? I'm playing only with my pawn without summoning others because I'm afraid they will steal my experience.

>>15694953

Your pawn is only pawn that levels. Recruited pawns are stuck at whatever level they were when their owner uploaded them.

>>15694953

You get more experience if you play alone or only with your main pawn.

>>15695446

It helps if you try to always keep in mind that it's a jap game.

>>15639980

>affinity pawns

>defeat lich in one of the rotundas

>go to treasure chest by the chasm

>mage pawn immediately jumps over chest, swandiving into the void as a result

>cursed dragon spawns in gorecyclops room (not the first one)

>mage pawn is down on F1 between them

>spends the entire fight trying to cast high anodyne for two seconds, getting knocked over, getting up, and trying again, repeat

>fighting drake near bloodwater beach

>mage pawn just climbs it, only heals when I carry her a mile away

>metal golem in the everfall

>my strider pawn is the only ranged phys damage dealer

>just climbs the golem

>try to teach it to hit the last medallion up in the air, spam magic arrows at it

>pawn fires one arrow at the medallion then continues climbing the golem

THE WIND IS PUSHING ME towards suicide

>>15707953

She goat/10

>>15641453

then you had better leave

I wanted to replay DD on hard, but I don't want to lose my character and all of my progress. Can you start a game on hard while also keeping your character?

>>15709311

Yes. The game has a NG+ mechanic, so you should choose "Load Game" or "Hard Mode" instead of "New Game".

>>15709337

Cool, thanks. Just one more question; if I already have a game in progress on normal will I have to finish that before I can restart on hard?

>>15709367

I haven't done it but I'm pretty sure you can play hard from lvl 1 by just changing the difficulty, and it should reset the story but not the character progress, that's what I read on the wiki when people were talking bitterblack moonstone gem strats

>can only save Selene from the mob and do her quest line if you guided Quina there in the beginning

>I didn't

>Was planning on romancing Selene

FUCK

Is it still possible bros?

>>15710618

is the quest available?

you could restart the story and keep your gear by cycling difficulties

>>15639958

>Pawns are a bunch of dumb idiots

Not really, they're just autists, that's why they love to repeat the same sentences, and are so obsessed with copy cating you that you can make then jump a cliff just by pretending to jump a cliff. No wonder humans think they are souless.

>>15710703

>hurr durr I was only pretending to be retarded the race

I buy it

>>15707953

too dark

>>15710618

Yes, but you'll just have to give her gifts now. It's too bad you didn't do the quest, because now you're missing out on the arisens bond, selene living in your house before post-game, king bay leaves, and metal golem.

>>15715320

> because now you're missing out on the arisens bond

And to make one you have to do Aelinore's quest line, which practically guarantees you'll be stuck with her. I gave her multiple liquid effluviums during the Duke's Manse quest then went to Selene and gave her shit until she was glowing like a lightbulb RIGHT BEFORE Deny Salvation and I STILL ended up with fucking Aelinore in the end.

Interestingly enough I ended up with Quina on an earlier playthrough despite not even trying to lower Aelinore's affinity and doing Deny Salvation directly afterwards (which flies completely in the face of the wiki info); at this point I've given up on trying to discover the internal logic of this clusterfuck of a game and I just take it as it comes.