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0b394b  No.15598875

With the rise of sites like Discord and Twitter, it seems that the next generation aren't using image boards. For smaller communities this is a god send, however I worry about the future of this site. Mainly since the numbers are at an ever decreasing rate. Normally I wouldn't concern myself with such matters, but seems we never made a proper recovery from 2015. And as a community we should be worried about such things, because Jim could shut it down at any moments time. and quite frankly I do not want to go back to cuckchan. Even if it kills me.

It's not just a /v/ thing either, all of the numbers seem to be down, and honestly I'm very worried about it. It's not just statistics or bullshit like that, but rather the worth of anonymity in general. The truth is this site as a whole still hasn't made the recovery from Infinity next, And while I still enjoy this board I do worry about the future, how things will go on from here and how much time we have left. Because as a whole we haven't had any smaller community join up since 2015 which in itself is a cause for concern. Like we have all the legacy boards, but none of the other boards or original boards that we used to have.

I don't think it's because of the lack of original content, we have plenty of drawfags and developers not only on /v/ but on other boards as well. Someone has to assume this has to do with meme creation or otherwise as a result of the 2016 election. Nobody seems to care about free speech anymore, or even the Idea of an anonymous community. Everything seems to be about individual rather than the idea and that alone is cause for concern. Like someone who is an attention whore in the past will now be seen as celebrity among the kids, and that alone fucking terrifying.

If Jim decides the shut us down, I don't know will where we will go from here, especially when cuckchan is a fucking shitshow, and the mods over at cuckchan have nothing but contempt for the community. Like say what you will about mark but at least he isn't malicious like moot was. So I'm very worried about who the next owner would be, and if it would be someone like either mark or moot.

Lord knows Jim won't fund us forever unless we start making him money, so unless something happens like a QAnon or some kind of massive event, We have the potential risk of shutting down. Someone has to ask; How do we promote smaller communities without having to resort to legacy boards. Would we make ads on other sites? or would we try promoting them on 8chan itself. Either way our numbers are lower than ever, and we need some way to boost the morale and activeness of 8chan.

Additionally I'd like some kinda way to promote activity among the European region, maybe it's something we could speak to mark or codemonkey about. Since the sites decently populated during American time, but around the European time it seems to slow to a crawl. So something needs to be done, but the question is what can we do? So I ask you /v/, what should we do to bring back people to this site?

tl;dr: The site is in potential danger and I'd like to save it somehow.

b788b1  No.15598896

>shitposting this on /v/ and talking about other boards as if you're on /sudo/ or some gay shit

epic, tell me when 4am threads are forever die


a2f7b1  No.15598905

>scream autistically that everything positive is a shill, everything you dont like is now a dubs thread and like /tv/ and /a/ the board is infamous for 'the place you dont go to talk about what the board says its about'

Faggots played themelves and drove people away. People don't leave if there aren't better experiences elsewhere. Perhaps if people hadn't been mincy cunts, bitter at the world the situation would be different but like sjws on tumblr they all thought they were heroic curators and volunteer mod police not content to let interest and posting keeps topics alive or not as imagboards are supposed to.


8746fa  No.15598918

>>15598896

They're basically dead anon.

>>15598905

a ton of those posters get banned, at least on /v/ anyway.


e43993  No.15598920

I never understood how Discord replaces imageboards. Every discord server I have ever joined has been pure cancer.


b788b1  No.15598922

>>15598918

tell me when waifu wednesdays are dead


8f7152  No.15598928

File: c97cf8ca6acc5c2⋯.jpg (33.4 KB, 537x343, 537:343, sturmbannführer.jpg)

Who honestly cares what happens to 8chan anymore. At least this board hasn't been good for 3 years.

>>15598918

>a ton of those posters get banned

Yeah, for about an hour or a day, and then it's back to shitting up the latest decent thread.


8746fa  No.15598938

>>15598928

>At least this board hasn't been good for 3 years.

Then why are you here?


8f7152  No.15598943

>>15598938

I don't know where else to go.


5c4862  No.15598944

>activity among the European region

Why not just have your own events like gamenights then? Like a NASA/ESA thing. I know some yuro anons having bad times with scheduling and lag.


8746fa  No.15598950

>>15598944

so like livestream events?


48dd15  No.15598959

The future of imageboards does not involve the board name "/v/". Or any other 4cuck names for that matter.


8746fa  No.15598961

>>15598959

It involves all of us.


5c4862  No.15598963

>>15598950

It might work to get some of them more active, even something more basic like a "/v/ plays" sort of thread that's shifted more for yuro hours.


30314d  No.15598967

>Nobody seems to care about free speech anymore, or even the Idea of an anonymous community. Everything seems to be about individual rather than the idea and that alone is cause for concern. Like someone who is an attention whore in the past will now be seen as celebrity among the kids, and that alone fucking terrifying.

That's the thing. No one really cares anymore. Plus with tagline "too extreme for 4chan", only the most curious and edgiest find their way here. Or those that's tired of 4chan.


cca0d6  No.15598976

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>>15598967

>too extreme for 4chan

It makes me think though, since the site as a whole has undeniably been in decline, how much better are we than 4chan at this point? I'm talking objectively here (as much as that can be done). I haven't been looking back much since we left in 2014, but on bad days I wonder what the point is of staying here if the differences are just posts per hour and a bunch of different cringy memes.

Why is it so hard for a group of people to talk about video games in peace and cut the bullshit?


48dd15  No.15598987

>>15598875

The problem with imageboards is that they're completely stagnant, stuck in their prehistoric ways and resistant to anything new. Try to suggest new filetype uploads and autists and goons will screech at you in harmony. Try to suggest new optional board settings and it's like you're a manifestation of demon jews. Try to suggest that something about the design is ugly and people will think you're trying to turn it into a facebook mobile app.

We need new features and polish to the website. We need similar new features and ideas that these hip websites and applications like Discord introduced/adapted, otherwise we'll be left into obscure history and shitpost with the same faggots for the rest of our lives as they too slowly leave one by one.

And more importantly we need to do shit that helps board discovery. We need to nuke all boards using 4cuck board names because imageboard users are fucking retarded and will not leave no matter how shitty the moderators get, our /b/ mods are the worst in almost any imageboard but people won't fucking leave because it's "/b/". Our /pol/ was forcibly taken from it's owner by the admin because the users who didn't like it were too fucking stupid to make a new board and use it. Our overboard is shit, it's hard to browse multiple boards at the same time, it's hard for board owners to promote other boards, it's hard for board owners to promote their own boards. Attention hungry games is a fucking joke that's taken over by shitposters spamming the same boards over and over and making alternate boards just to post it in that thing. The entire meta board is a fucking joke because codenigger doesn't ban the board drama shitters that flood into the board whenever a volunteer bans someone, it makes you feel like there's no way to reach the admins and nobody cares about the running of this website.

The health of the entire system is in the gutter and nobody is doing anything about it. We can only hope that some competent developer with disposable income starts a new imageboard and invests actual effort and resources into running and improving it and isn't mentally stuck in 2004. But the amount of people like that on earth who aren't also leftists and/or botnet fuckers is almost 0.


30314d  No.15599013

>>15598976

>It makes me think though, since the site as a whole has undeniably been in decline, how much better are we than 4chan at this point?

I have to say we are much better. At least in term of threads and posting. Have you even tried to read or skim through 4v whenever that question thrown? Not to mention the default thumb and catalog of 4v is a mess. Looking at it give me headache


9e1688  No.15599016

>muh declining users

The site recently received upgrades because it couldn't handle the increasing amount of posts. Even if you're retarded and don't believe that there's actually been an increase in posting, why would Jim and Codemonkey bother to upgrade the site if they wanted to shut it down? This retarded doomsaying attitude needs to go.


cca0d6  No.15599019

>>15598987

>because the users who didn't like it were too fucking stupid to make a new board and use it.

To their defense, people did actually do that, but like any offshoot of a legacy board they're deader than dead and don't offer anything that can't be had on the more active board.

The main feature of this site is also its biggest drawback. We don't have the userbase to spread around all these different boards. There's so many dead boards that you're basically sifting through shit in order to find a good one.

>and nobody cares about the running of this website.

All passion for this site left when hotwheels called it quits. Jim is a fucking idiot who doesn't give two shits.

>>15599013

I haven't been there too much. Once or twice to see what was going on, but I never post, so I can't really make proper judgement about it. That, and the google captcha is a good way to prevent me from posting. I fucking hate having to fill that shit it every post.


607564  No.15599037

>>15598987.

>We need new features and polish to the website. We need similar new features and ideas that these hip websites and applications like Discord introduced/adapted, otherwise we'll be left into obscure history and shitpost with the same faggots for the rest of our lives as they too slowly leave one by one.

What features? You must remember image boards aren't communicators, you can't just copy-paste FOTM trends. You already can just make a board here for free. I don't think image boards are any less useful than normal forums. I wouldn't mind optional anonymised chat, but I'm not sure if there really is a need to bloat 8chan with it.

I don't know what's the issue with other file types. Anything that's not an executable file should be allowed, just have a (combined) file size limit.

>And more importantly we need to do shit that helps board discovery. We need to nuke all boards using 4cuck board names 4holocaust can't come soon enough. These boards are too important by default to be left in.


48dd15  No.15599057

File: 52a1f14498fd4b6⋯.png (932.77 KB, 1491x981, 497:327, eitochan multicatalog.png)

>>15599019

>The main feature of this site is also its biggest drawback. We don't have the userbase to spread around all these different boards. There's so many dead boards that you're basically sifting through shit in order to find a good one.

That's basically why we need website-side support for board discovery and promotion, so it's easier to find and use new boards and browse them alongside other boards. Imagine if you could go to /v/ and just add other vidya boards to the catalog instead of browsing some shitty overboard thing. Then you could favorite that combination instead of individual boards. What if you had some kind of sidebar where you could instantly switch between boards/threads without having to reload the page, and it shows live notifications when someone posts and the posts appear in realtime instead of by some shitty reload system.

You can fix it to some degree with userscripts but there's only so much they can do, plus you'll never get 99% of people to install them anyway so they only help your personal experience rather than the website itself.

>>15599037

>imageboards arent x or y therefore we don't need new features!

Thanks for proving my point. I don't mean flavor of the month hip shit, I mean Discord and friends have actually good ideas that we can benefit from, for example the abovementioned easy switching between multiple threads. We already function basically like a chat, only the posts are loaded in a slow and retarded way.

>Anything that's not an executable file should be allowed

That's what I think too, instead of thinking of imageboards strictly as "image"boards, I think it would benefit to start thinking of them as more of fileboards where you can post and share any files, and embed as many of them as possible (like text/audio). Drawfags could share their .psd and krita files, devs could share their source code and assets, and so on without having to rely on a different website.


f14664  No.15600498

THE ETERNAL NEWFAG SCREAMS IN PAIN

Fag


7bdd32  No.15600706

>>15598875

>it seems that the next generation aren't using image boards

I wholeheartedly disagree. I don't know the demographic statistics of this site, but I'd wager that a large portion of the population of users are in the 13 - 30 age range, which definitely constitutes the next generation.

>the number [of users is] at an ever decreasing rate

Is there any evidence to support this? Don't user statistics constantly fluctuate? Wouldn't it be more beneficial to look at long term average rates for future predictions?

>It's not just statistics or bullshit like that, but rather the worth of anonymity in general.

>Nobody seems to care about free speech anymore, or even the Idea of an anonymous community. Everything seems to be about individual rather than the idea and that alone is cause for concern. Like someone who is an attention whore in the past will now be seen as celebrity among the kids, and that alone fucking terrifying.

I agree with this sentiment, the idea that anonymity is not valued or even chastised by normalfags and the media, but you haven't really addressed this point in your post beyond these initial statements. What do you think is the source of this disregard of anonymity? What can be done about it? As the internet becomes increasingly populated with children, attention whores, and retards, it's only natural that some portion of its population will clamor to be the next big thing, which in turn will diminish the value of anonymity as a concept, given that everyone will be caught in the midst of an attention whoring arms race.

>>15598987

>We need new features and polish to the website

The only thing I care about at this point in time is a constant remind of the limit on file sizes. I know in the post options it says 16MB but that's not specific enough, I want to know the exact limit right down to the number of bytes, because often times your 16MB file will be just a hair too large for the cap, and I'm too fucking lazy to write down the exact number again. It'd just be nice to have a specific reminder somewhere.

>>15599057

>Imagine if you could go to /v/ and just add other vidya boards to the catalog instead of browsing some shitty overboard thing. Then you could favorite that combination instead of individual boards. What if you had some kind of sidebar where you could instantly switch between boards/threads without having to reload the page, and it shows live notifications when someone posts and the posts appear in realtime instead of by some shitty reload system.

It sounds like a good idea, but on the contrary, isn't it relatively easy to just have more than one tab open in your browser? It only takes a second to switch boards if you keep different boards open in different tabs. Why would you want to integrate similar boards into one large "custom" catalog? Isn't the point of a separate board to distinguish that board from others like it? Wouldn't this be in direct opposition of that goal?

Sage for off topic.


e1ae22  No.15602499

File: f4c1799bdce59a8⋯.png (181.33 KB, 440x540, 22:27, 1455789743610.png)

>>15598875

Stop worrying so much. Just make the best of what we have and try to have fun with the limited time left. 8ch may not last forever and that's okay. We did our best and despite the road bumps I think we made good use of what was given to us.


208297  No.15602781

>>15599057

This idea already exists and it is called Reddit.




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